May 26, 2020 • 46 mins
Singer, songwriter, dancer, entrepreneur, Real Housewife… Kandi Burruss has done it all! Wells hangs out with Kandi to find out what sparked the fire within to transform her into a high-level achiever.
She shares stories of writing some of the biggest songs in music history and we hear about what goes into her latest songs. And even though Kandi has done everything, she opens up about what she loves most.
Plus some behind the scenes secrets from her time as “The Night Angel” on The Masked Singer!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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And then also what up to the people who are
sitting in the context of the person who loves this show,
and it's like, what the is this? Welcome in to
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my show. It's called the Wells Cast and my name
is Wells. So real creative on the name. The problem was,
here's the thing. I would have had a better name
for the show, but the initial show was the Pratt
Cast because I was doing the show with Stephanie Pratt
about the Hills and then she she up and vanished
to freaking London town and left America. But the show
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is popular and people liked it, so we're like, well,
let's just continue doing the show and then I'll just
have other famous people on instead of steph. Because of that,
we just changed it to Wells Cast because the reason
was Pratt Cast. But I really do wish the name
of the show was something different, just so you guys know.
I wanted to be called or Original Stories with Wells.
But there are people who I won't name names, Amy Sugarman,
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who um was like, you gotta we should have just
be Wild's cast, and you know what, they pay her
a lot of money over at my heart to make
these decisions. So that's what it is. So if you
have any gripe over the name of the show, even
though it's has it's just kind of whatever. Actually, don't
don't go out after Amy Sugarman. She's the wonderful woman
and she's made my life so much, so much more
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awesome for knowing her. Very excited about the show. Today
got another alumni of the Mass Singer on the show.
But here's my crazy thing about the Mass Singer. They're
these really really famous people with crazy stories that they're
not letting you get to see. If I was in
the pitch meeting for this, I'd be like, yeah, but
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uh wait, okay, so let me get this straight. You're
gonna have Jesse McCartney on a show for like eight
weeks straight, but we don't get to see his face
the moneymaker, Well, no, you can't do that. I want
to see his face, you know. But someone was like,
you know what, maybe this will work, and it does.
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That show works, it kills, but the big name you
don't get to see until the day they gotta leave,
which is crazy to me. But it is a hit show,
and we've watched every season. The names are getting bigger
and bigger and bigger and bigger, like everyone's wanting to
do it, which makes total sense. But today's guest has
done everything. If I've learned anything about the industry, you
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got to diversify your bonds. You know, you have to
be able to do everything. You gotta have your hand
in every freaking pot, because sometimes one pot of boil
over full of money and then sometimes drives a Sara desert.
And that's what our guests on the show this week
is doing. She was a member of the vocal group
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Escape back in the day, when a Grammy for Best
R and B Song for her contribution on the hit
I Don't Want That's Gonna Got? That can get a
look from me hanging on the passenger side of his
best friends Bat trying and me, oh god, that's a
good song. She stars in Bravo's reality show Real Housewives
of Atlanta. She's married to Todd Tucker, got a bunch
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of kids, and we just found out that she was
the night Angel on the Mass Singer When she was
a teenager, her no nonsense single mom gave her an
important piece of advice that would shape her approach to
her career. Mom says, don't put all your eggs in
one basket, and the Atlanta born and bred singer, songwriter, entrepreneur,
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and TV personality says, today that was the thing that
changed everything. That makes sense because nowadays you gotta be
good at a lot of stuff if you want to
make a little bit of money. Cannot wait to have
on the show today. Oh yeah, we're talking to Candy
Berths from Real Housewives of Atlanta and the Night Angel
from The Mass Singer is a show you are not
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going to want to miss. I don't know. I gotta
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Candy Burrs on the Wells Cast. What's up? Oh? Everything?
Everything is up right now. The world is just kind
of up in the air at this point. The world
is up in the air and I'm just feeling up
in the sky like I'm on a high right now. Yeah,
you're feeling good though, yes, man, I mean this is
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my birthday week. My birthday was Sunday. My birthday was Saturday.
Are you serious? Yeah? Sixteenth? Yeah, May seventeen. Sorry, yeah, yeah,
this is a good week. Just winning the Mask Singer
the same week of my birthday was just super cool.
We finally in doubt. Who the night angel is? Did
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you have so much fun on? Oh? Yeah, for sure.
It was like Okay, first of all, it's just crazy
when you first get there and you know they immediately
from rehearsal, you know, you had to put all these gloves,
the tall socks. They want every bit of your body
covered because they don't want anybody to know who you are.
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So it's like, you know, I got used to this
whole secrecy, this whole secret movement thing, and then when
we got there the day of everybody's walking around with
these silly costumes on. It was just crazy. You know,
I never really figured out anybody except for I did
figure out. Yeah, they keep us separating except for you know,
at the end when they bring us all on stage
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at once, but other than that, we're separated the whole time.
But this one particular day I had to They were
taking me backstage to my dressing room to get ready
for sound check, and I guess he had his sound
check right before mine, and I heard the end of
his rehearsal and I heard him doing criss cross jump
and you know he does maget magety that part. I
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was like, that's a bow wow, I know his voice anywhere.
Had Brett Michaels on a couple weeks ago, and I
guess Sharon Osborne had a similar thing where she was like,
I've known him for thirty years. I know that's exactly
who it is, that Brett Michaels. That's over it'. I
keep thinking, no one that I've known really really well
has been on the show. But I wonder if i'd
be like, I know for sure that's that's so and so.
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So it's really crazy. That was your response. What did
you think about your clues? Some of them I didn't
even know, Like I didn't even catch on it, like
it was so crazy, Like I would look at what
the fans were saying online. It was amazing to me
that a lot of them were figuring that stuff out,
because I was like I even had to go back
and like emails some of the producers like yo, like
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what did this mean? But like okay, for instance, I
think they had some ducks flying around or something or whatever,
and I he was like, bills, bills, bills for the
song he wrote for this show. I was like, oh cute,
I like it. And then it was um somebody. I
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didn't even notice this. It was on the front of
like a hotel. They showed four or five six, and
I didn't get it. I didn't notice it at first,
but that's the title of a song UM that I
did with so Lay back in the day. It was
a number one rap song four or five six, and
I was like, oh, you guys are clever, I guess.
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And it makes sense because when Ken goes like on
his like crazy weird like uh connecting of the dots thing,
I'm like, can stop whatever you're smoking. First of all,
send it over my way because I'm boring quarantine. I
need some of it. But like hearing you explain some
of those crazy things, like, I feel like sometimes he
might not be like that far off. Well yeah, I
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mean sometimes he's like tracks and hear me. He's like,
I know exactly who it is. It's so funny when
he does that. But he was off when it was,
you know, for me. But I did understand his reasoning
when he came up with UM. Gina Gina romarin Um
Tissia Kimp, my mind went blank for a second. But
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she is extremely talented and she's a great performer. And
then and she does sing and act or whatever, and
I could understand how he could relate some of the
clues to her. Who is your favorite guest? That wasn't you?
Oh I saw somebody guest Stevie Nicks. Oh all right, yeah.
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I was like, okay, icon, I will take it. That's
a good one. But um, I thought she was amazing. Now.
The one that cracked me up was when they were
like little Kim. I said, really, little Kim, now, mind you.
I love Little Kim and she's amazing. But I never
knew her as a singer. I didn't. I never think
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that she I don't think she sung any songs. I
know she as reps. But I was like, they were like,
your swag. Your swag reminds me a little Kim. I
was like, now I got swag, but I don't know
if I have swag like little Kim, Like, come on, man,
you've give me too much credit here. What was your
favorite and least favorite thing about your costume? Oh? Well,
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my favorite thing was that I felt like my costume
was like amazing to look at, like the wings, the jewels,
the harnessed thing across the chest, the you know, all
of that and then I was the only one who
had an actual face, like a human like face on
my costume. Even though it's a little spooky because it's
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like like one of those dolls when it mounts me,
stay open, look creepy. That was a little creepy, but
it was the dope costume. The part that I hated
was how hot that costume was. When I tell you,
I was about to die, especially the first like performance,
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because I was like about to pass out for real.
The wings they made my arms. I had to stay
back like this the whole time because it would pull
my shoulders back. But it made it hard to breathe
because you know, I couldn't constrict, you know, my chest
was like killed in one spot. And so that and
then it was so hot I literally almost passed out
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in the first dress rehearsal. I was like, how am
I going to do this? This is uh, this is insane.
Are you happy? Yeah? Totally. Before I got on this show,
and there would be so many people who would say
negative things like, oh, she can't sing, Oh I hate
her voice. You know why, you know, whatever they have
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to say about me as far as musically. Now, it's
crazy because like for me, I'm like, okay, I started
in this business in a singing group. We had hit records,
but then it starts making you have self doubt when
you see comments and tweets like that, because it makes
me feel like, okay, well you know, okay, yeah, I
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have song on hit songs, but maybe my voice is
not hot now maybe it was just hot back then
or whatever, And then I started doubting myself. So to
be on this show and everybody gives me positive feedback,
and you know, all the judges are showing so much love,
and even when I look on the tweets online, you know,
people are like, oh my god, not Angel killed it.
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It's just really it rebuilt my confidence, you know what
I mean. It made me say to myself, like, why
have I been listening to the haters? Like I'm the
main one who tells people just fly above the haters.
I'm not supposed to listen to the haters, so what
am I doing? It just was a good experience for me.
I really I feel like I needed this. I needed it.
That's awesome to hear and really cool takeaway from the
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whole thing. It's kind of funny too, because the irony
isn't lost on me because you are hiding behind something
but showcasing your talent, and then it's a bunch of
aids who are hiding behind a Twitter handle just being
rude for no real reason. And then you get to
then take off the mask and be like, hey, thank you,
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I'm great. You know, yeah, but you know what, I
didn't even think about that. You're right, they're hiding behind
their computers throwing make my way and and I shouldn't
even be accepting it. I should just I should have
always just leaved in my own talent, because I mean,
I've proven myself in the past. So I don't know
why I fall into that mode of thinking, oh, maybe
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they're right, maybe I'm just I just don't have it
anywhere or whatever. You know, I should have just you know,
just going and kept doing my thing. But um, I
don't know it. Being in the being behind the mask though,
it's helpful because it just makes you feel like, Okay,
they're not judging Candy, they're judging Night Angel, so it's
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just only whatever Night Angel does. As far as like
performance singing, I mean they're judging based on my vocals
that night or my performance in Night it's not because
oh I don't like Handy from the Real Housewives, so
I'm just gonna throw hate on her way online or whatever,
you know. And so I felt like that was pretty
cool that I don't have the pre judge, I didn't
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have any prejudgments going against me. Yeah, congratulations. I'm so
excited for you, and I'm glad that you were able
to kind of like walk away from the experience with
just so much more positive self esteem. You know. That's
a really cool outcome of a thing that's just it's
a silly show, but like those things mean a lot.
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You know. I've done a bunch of reality shows. When
you walk away feeling good with how you did, it
means a lot, you know. So congratulations. Um, I'm not
sure if anyone explained to you the kind of the
premise of this show. At the end of the day,
it's an origin story show. I like to find out
where people came from and how the hell they got
here and how the hell they became so successful, almost
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like a blueprint, if you will, for a lot of
people out there and whatever they do, whether it's the
entertainment into street singing, songwriting, dancing, acting, or you know
if you want to be a lawyer or you know,
a doctor or whatever. These stories I think help a
lot of people. And just going through your resume, your
credits are the most diverse of almost any guests we've
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had on You've done literally everything. If you will allow me,
I'd like to hear your story, and I'd like to
start the beginning. You want to start at the beginning? Wow?
Okay um. I started out in the group escape Um
when I was well. We got together when I was fourteen.
I met them when I first went to high school.
So were you singing and like writing? And was was
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your mom like pushing you towards this kind of entertainment career? No?
In middle school, I actually was not doing the right things,
fucking up basically, And it just so happened that uh,
that summer right before the ninth grade. I mean I
used to like to sing, you know, I was saying
around my friends and stuff, but I didn't look at
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it as like a real career. And a friend of
mine she wanted to audition for this new performing art
school that was opening um the following year. But you
had to audition, and so she didn't want to do
about herself, so she asked me to come in audition
with her, and since I wasn't doing anything that summer,
I was like, okay, you know, cool whatever, and we
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did the audition. I end up getting picked and she didn't,
which was crazy, you know for me. But then I
just decided. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna
go ahead and go there. I had no intentions of going,
like I really didn't even want to go to that school,
but you know, because I got picked and because the
little audition process was fun, I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna try it. That one decision changed my entire life
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because that's where I went to that school. I end
up meeting my group members, um, Tomika Scott and Latasha
Scott and then well, at first we had another group member.
Her name was Tamara Coggin's. She and I are still
best friends to this day. Her name is tam World,
but we car Tan and then also Tiny you know,
she's also a TV personality as well. But yeah, we
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started out in the group together fourteen, started singing with
the group, and then we it took us two years
to get a deal. So we got our deal when
I was sixteen with so so dev Jermaine Duprie. From there,
it was just it just took off. Our first single
blew up. Well, first of all, let me just say this.
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My brother passed away when I was fifteen, Okay, yeah,
and he was like, um, he had a lot to
do with my group, Like he was very um supportive
and telling us, oh, y'all got what it makes to
take the pros and all this stuff. And he actually
introduced us to our first manager, who is the one
who took us to Jermaine Dupree. But my my my
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brother passed. I just it just felt like I just
became numb to everything. Like the world, it was just
like nothing to me anymore. And I was just existing,
but I was still, you know, doing what I had
to do musically. But when I tell you, it was
so crazy that it felt like like you know how
people say they have at a guardian angel, Like I
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literally I feel like I gotta have I have a
guardian angel, Like like literally, everything just started happening in
my life and just falling into place. Like I told you,
I was new to that school. The following year, I
won miss tenth grade, which is something I didn't even
want to go for but somebody put my name in
the thing, and so I went ahead and said okay,
and I end up winning. Then right after that I
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ended up. Our group got an audition to be on
bt S Team Summit. At the time, they had a
talent showcase, so we were on that, and then all
of a sudden after that is when Germaine decided that
he went to go ahead and sign us, because we
had sang for him before that performance, but being on there,
he was like, oh, yeah, I want to sign you guys.
And then even though we had the deal, a lot
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of people was like, those girls ain't gonna really do anything.
Our first single, blew Up, you know, just kicking it.
It was our first single and it wasn't even out
long before it blew Up went number one, and then
our album was platinum, and all of our albums together
was successful. We really defeated ourselves because we couldn't get
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alone basically, and um, we end up taking a hiatus
after our third album and from there, I honestly didn't
know what was gonna happen. Like during that process of
our third album, we kind of knew that the group
was gonna take a little break after so I remember
I was telling Tiny, my other group member. I was like, yo, like,
we need to start working on another project because, um
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you know, we don't know what's gonna happen after this
third album or whatever, because one of our other group
members were supposed to be going solo. So we were
just like, I was like, let's just start writing for ourselves.
Come up with this our project, and then we could
submit it to the label and show them what we've done.
And one of the songs that we did for ourselves
was no Scrubs and somebody played it for um l
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a Read and he ended up loving the song. One
it for TLC and when he was like, let him
have it, and obviously you see the result of that song.
That song is like this the gift that keeps on
giving it. Just from that song, I've had so many
other people who sampled it in different things that I
keep getting great publishing checks from. But yeah, so from there,
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I just started writing for everybody. You know, I had
the opportunities to write for. I wrote five songs on
the Destiny's Child's writing writing on the Wall album. Obviously
Bills Bills, Bills, which was another big hit. Um bug
A Boo, which was a big song. I had multiple
hits with them, and then I had hits with Pink.
I had her first song she ever put out There
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you Go. I wrote that, and then I worked with
you know, Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey and in Sync.
You know, I used to love them on that No
Strings Attached album. I had that song. It makes me
ill wrote with that for them. I love them. I
love You've written so many hit songs that you had
to like take a beat to remember what in sync
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song you had written, because I mean, and I don't
I'm not trying to, you know, brag or anything like that.
That's not my intention. But you know, I have written
a lot of songs, and to be honest with you,
I do forget them sometimes I can't repeat all the
lyrics or anything like that, because the songs that I
wrote a long time ago, you know, just to be
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able to say that I worked with some of these
people who you know, obviously they all have done some
amazing things, and um so it's it's really been awesome.
And then from there, you know, I just kinda went
behind the scenes for a while, you know, building my
family and and you know, still working on music, writing music,
but man, the opportunity came up for being on the Housewives,
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and that was a fluke. I was just talking to
one of my friends one day. I was working on
another project with Tiny and one of my friends, Derek
Ja he does here, he's been on the show before,
but he was like, Kenny, the Real Housewives, like they're
looking for somebody, and um, I'm gonna tell them to
call you because they need somebody with their own money.
I was like, huh. I was like, I'm doing something already.
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He was like, well, I'm gonna tell them to call
you anyway. And so the project that I actually was
working on actually fell through. The people decided they didn't
want to use me for the project, and I was
kind of disappointed, but I was just like, oh, well,
it wasn't meant to be or whatever. And then literally
like the next week, the people from The Housewives reached
out and was like, hey, we want to talk to
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you and meet up with you. And I was like, okay, cool,
you know, I did the interviews. Cool, and they ended up,
you know, asked me to be a part of the show.
And here I am eleven seasons later, with multiple other
shows and stuff, and so I just said, you know it,
I think it's really true. I really do have an
amazing guardian angel. So I guess it's kind of fitting
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that I was the night Angel I'm massing or wow.
It was there for sighting that. No, they actually had
gave me other costumes to choose from that I had
picked one of, and then a week or two later
they came back and was like, hey, this costume became available.
Would you like to get this one instead? And when
I saw the picture, I was like definitely. I was
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like this one, it's dope. I want this the wings,
the jewels, you know, I was like, this is me.
And so that's how that came about. I have two
cousins who passed away that we're really close to me,
and the same thing. It's like this weird thing of
I feel like they're always kind of helping me out
and like I'll have these like signs that they're around me.
And I've done a lot of like thinking about it.
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Whether it's true or not, it doesn't really matter, right like,
because if it is true, that's wonderful, and if it isn't,
it's still serving its purpose of I believe it's true,
which makes me feel more free to be me because
I'm like, oh, I can't fail because I know Tyler
and Blake are right like on my shoulder, like helping
me out right exactly. You telling that story of you've
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written so many songs and then you were like, man,
what what instinct song was it? I was watching this
documentary about Bob Dylan, who's like written like everything right,
and he was talking to Joan Bayez about and she
played him a song called Love Is a Four Letter
Word and he was like, well, that's a great song.
Who what did you write it? And she was like,
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you wrote it, your idiot. That's the when you were
telling that story, I was like, this is the Bob
Dylan story. You're you're so amazingly diverse with your your
musical career that you're forgetting the hits that you're writing.
So you play for dupre before you get signed. What
was that moment like when we first mentioned Maine. It
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was that his nineteenth birthday party, and yeah, I remember
because we had to we sang Happy Birthday, so we
had did like this whole harmonizing thing. You know. He
was like, Oh, we're gonna kill it. You know. Um,
at the time, Chris Cross had not yet come out
it and so he listened to us and he saw
you guys sound great. He was like, I, um, he said,
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right now, I'm working on another project and when I
finished it with them, then I'll come back and get
you guys. And so it just kind of felt like, yeah, yeah, whatever,
because we hadn't heard that from other people were singing
for anybody who would listen. And if you can understand,
at the time, in Atlanta, music had started really booming
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because l A Read and Baby Face they had moved
their record label, The Face Records, here, and so you know,
people had started getting record deals. Um, you know TLC
had come out, Um you know, uh, I think Tony
Braxton had came out with her albums. So people had
started really you know, doing their thing in Atlanta. You know,
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we were just like, oh, man, if we could just
get that shot and we could just get somebody to
sign us, you know, we would be able to blow up.
You know, we didn't know how hard it would be.
After we just thought, okay, you get a deal and
you're gonna blow up up. So when he said, oh yeah,
I'm gonna come back and sign y'all. We thought he
was just brushing us off like everybody else, and he
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actually was true to his word. Um, it did take
a year. Um basically he was working on Criss Cross
at the time. Criss Cross once he put and got
them out there, and obviously they blew up and sold
millions and millions of records. They ended up he got
his own record label, So so deaf and I guess
the right around that time is when it was shortly
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after we were on the Team Summit competition that I
told you about on BT and our manager Ian Burke,
he had went back to Jermaine and was like, hey,
did you see the girls they were on you know,
the show, and Jermaine was like, he said that we
were the ghetto in Vogue. And the reason why he
(25:51):
said that is because, Okay, we got on BT with
we had these baggy I don't know if you remember
cross colors that was like these bright, older, you know
jeans everybody was wearing back in the early nineties. So
we had the baggy baggy Cross colors on and we
could not sing the song with the track because they
couldn't get it cleared. So Tasha moves to my group.
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She beat boxed and we sang and harmonized over the
beat box, and so he was like, Okay, you guys,
you know that's nothing but the streets in the hood.
That's the only way y'all could have pulled that off. Like,
who else is what girls are beat boxing and singing?
So yeah, it was it was. It was interesting performance.
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I mean, it turned out to be a really good win.
Obviously it changed our careers, but um, yeah, that's what
he thought of. And then we harmonized too, So that
was the relation that he related us to in Vogue
because at that time in Vogue was iconic. You know,
they were harmonizing and we all looked up to them
and we sang and it was one of their songs
that we had sang on the show. I was reading
(26:55):
up on you, and I think there was kind of
a pivotal moment in your life when you went to
the Soul Trained Music Awards and you watched Queen Latifa
except like the award for Entertainer of the Year, and
something kind of clicked for you. Then received Dammy Davis
Junior Award, and basically they gave her that award because
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at the time she was an actress. She obviously was
a successful rapper. At the time, she had produced her
own show. She was producing UM her TV show and
and UM she was she had a management company, so
she was managing all these artists, artists I know at
the time. I think she had managed Monica. She was
managing like a lot of people. So it was like
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multiple things that she was doing and she was successful
in every area. And that inspired me so much. Like literally,
I was sitting in that chair watching her, and I
remember turning into tiny and I said, I'm going to
get that award one day. And so I went home
the very next day because I was like, Okay, what
can I do to get this award? I'm already singing
(27:59):
what else can I do? And I was like, okay,
well she manages people. Okay, I'm gonna manage somebody, That's
what I said. And so I called my friend Richard Wingo,
who I went to high school with me. Because I
was only like one year out of school, so I
probably was eighteen nineteen. I called Wingo. I said, hey,
you still got that group that you were working with.
He was like yeah. I was like, okay, come over
to my house. I want to manage all and that
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group is Jagged Edge, and I helped them get their
deal just also Deaf and now millions of records later,
they sold more records than we did in the group Escape.
So I'm thankful that I was able to help other people,
you know, take their careers to the next level. But
it was all inspired by Queen with Teeth. I mean,
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you've done everything right, You've You're extremely accomplished and awarded songwriter.
Same goes for performer. You've now tackled TV management, You've
got like other projects, like I want to talk about
the bedroom stuff that you've got candy. Yeah, you've everything.
What brings you the most joy? M that's a good question.
(29:05):
I like the creative stuff the best. So I love
writing songs, I love singing. I love acting as well,
and that's why I'm so excited. I um, I have
a role coming in the show The Shy on season
three is coming out this summer. So those things, anything
that's like performing, arts driven, those are my passions. So
(29:26):
I was singing and right and for free, like that's
just something I love to do and I don't really
have to get paid you to do it. I don't
even need an audience. I could just do it around
the house and I'm happy. So I guess those are
the things that I love. Being in the studio and
creating music is amazing to me, and it's especially amazing
(29:46):
when you're able to see other people perform the things
that you create. So I'm not really sure if I
what I love more. Is it if it's if it's
me singing my own stuff, being on stage and performing it,
or seeing somebody else else performing it and then being successful.
I still haven't figured out which one I like most,
because I still get just as much joy out of
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seeing somebody else being a hit with something that I
wrote where I know I was a part of it.
You know what I mean when you see somebody be great,
but you know that you had a hand in it,
and that's a great feeling to you know. Yeah, helping
lift people up is is an amazing feeling. I mean,
I think of all the I mean, I don't know,
I don't even know if it's true, but if all
the things that you've created, Scrubs has got to be
(30:30):
up there of things that you created and help other
people be successful with. Is there any part of you
that's like a kind of wish I had held on
that one. I never and people said that all the time,
but I feel like it might not have done the
same thing if it was if I held onto it,
it may not have had the same effect. You know.
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I feel like everything happens for a reason by me
giving them that song that launched my career as a
songwriter to be able to write for so many people.
And you know, people don't wanna work with you if
they feel like you're only gonna keep the best songs
for yourself. You know. People want to feel like, oh,
I'm working with somebody who's gonna give me a hit,
you know. And I really at that time, I didn't
(31:13):
really know how to write for other artists, Like you know,
it was so competition driven. Everybody was in competition with
each other. So even though I knew I wanted to
write for other artists, I didn't know how to make
that happen at that time. So once again, that Guardian
Angel was just kind of working for me whether right.
People heard it to get them the song for that
opportunity to fall in my lap, and I ran with it.
(31:35):
It's like for me, you only have to crack the
door open. You cracked that door open. I'm I'm kicking
it in at that point and I'm gonna run with it.
And so from there, I was just trying to stay
in the studio writing for anybody who would let me
write for them or correct collaborate with them. I didn't care.
I was just like, Okay, who can I write for next?
(31:55):
And that was my whole you know, vibe back then.
And I love of writing for other people. I do
love singing. Singing as well. When my group we just
did a reunion tour, what was that two years ago?
Oh my gosh. It's sold out across the country every
place that we went, and it was so exciting to
know that twenty years later, here we are able to
(32:16):
sell out arenas. I couldn't even believe it, you know,
but that feeling of being on stage every night, it
was amazing too. So I want to like the best,
to be honest with well, speaking of your music, tell
me about used to love me. Oh so that's my
new single that I dropped, and I dropped it yesterday
and I was excited because today when I looked, it's
(32:37):
number five on the dance chart on iTunes. Or whatever.
But I wanted to do something that was totally different
than anything that I've ever done before. You know, I
think before as an artist, I always was kind of
like stuck in a box because, you know, you start
off as an R and B artist, people just look
at you as an R and B artist. It's hard
to break out of one genre of music once you
(32:57):
start there. And so being on this show the mass singer,
you know, I decided I was gonna do every genre,
you know, when I was on the show. So I
say rock, I sang country, I say hip hop, song,
I did all the songs, and after it was done,
I said, you know what, I want to do a
project for myself where I'm not stuck in a box.
(33:20):
And I wanted to do something that everybody can dance to.
And so I intentionally did a record that I felt
like it could play anywhere in the world, and people
as soon as they hear that beat, they're just gonna
want to dance, you know, And I think that's something
that brings the world together when you can dance, you
know what I mean, When it's a song that just
makes you feel good, it makes you want to move,
(33:42):
and so that's why I chose to do that type
of record, And I'm friends with Toddrick Hall and so
I hate him up. I was like, hey, um, I
want you to jump on the song with me, and
he was more than excited to be a part of it.
So that worked out. Speaking of grooving and feeling good,
I out to know more about bedroom candy. What is this?
(34:04):
And do I need to get something for my fiance? Oh?
You do for her and yourself? Okay, let's let's get
into it. Uh Okay. So I used to do an
online show called Candy Coated Nights and it was all
about sex and relationships and I had like a really
big following online for it, and so after doing it
(34:24):
for a few years, I was just kind of like, Okay,
I got this following, so I should find something that
goes along with this show. And obviously we were talking
very adults on the show. So a friend of mine
was like, you should do adult toys, And I know
that sounds back then it sounded crazy. Now I hear
people out the time saying I want to have my
own sex toy line, But back then it was like
(34:45):
only porn stars were doing it, really, you know. But
I was like, you know what, I kind of like
that idea because I felt like it's important, you know,
as a woman, I feel like we need to know
how to how to take care of our own bodies,
you know what I mean, and need to know our
spot so we can tell our partner how to please
(35:05):
us seeing them. And so I always felt like it
was important for a woman to have at least one
good bedroom toy, okay, and so, and I don't want
people to feel like you have to be some type
of porn star just to make that happen, Like anybody
could like to please their bodies, you know what I mean,
or please theirselves. Are just just you don't want to
feel good, so why you gotta make it It seem
(35:27):
like it's a dirty thing. It's not a dirty thing.
It's just you know, self pleasure is great, you know.
And then you know, so now it went from just
being like one product and then you know, I have
I have children or whatever. So I always felt like
you need at least a product that even if your
kid find it, you ain't gotta be scared and ashamed.
(35:48):
So we started out with um one. It looks like
a little lipstick. It like really looks like a lipstick
case or whatever. When you open it, obviously it's something else.
Then I had another toy that vibrated to music, which
is awesome, so we went from that. So now we
have hundreds of toys and we've won awards for our
(36:10):
adult products or whatever, and now we don't have just
adult products. Now it's a whole lifestyle brand. I got
UM you know, bad bed and bath products. I have everything,
and we got consultants that actually sell it, you know,
go and sell our products. So we have thousands of
consultants that room candy consultants across the country and they
sell a lot of the products. And UM now have
(36:31):
a makeup lick called Candy Coded Cosmetics, so they sell
that as well. And it's so cool because since we've
been in quarantine, I thought that it was gonna hurt
our business because you know, you think everybody stuck in
the house, you can't have in home parties. But now
they're doing online parties. And when I tell you, we
had the biggest month ever when everybody went into quarantine.
(36:54):
So I was like, right now is the time. Everybody
wants to be happy, Everybody wants to feel good. Everybody
want to have their own businesses. And um, that's a
cool thing about Bedroom Candy because we provide like amazing
products and then we also do like coaching and different
things to help people build their their businesses and so
try to help everybody be successful that partners up with me.
(37:17):
You know. Yeah, it's just gone to the next level.
So an idea that started off as just something like
oh yeah, well what should I do? Turned out to
now it's like eight years later and it's like a
huge award winning brand. And then we also got kid
products too. I got raising as I know it sounds crazy,
but that's the way I look at it. Okay, when
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you learn how to take care of yourself in the bedroom,
sometimes you get a little gift that you will keep
your lifelong. And that's where raising gates comes in. So
as a woman, I just want to I just want to,
Like when I think of the things that I want
to do business wise, I just feel like, Okay, as
(37:58):
a woman, what do I need? What do I use?
You know? And so I just go with what appeals
to you know me, Well, yeah, necessity is the mother
of invention, So it makes sense. Have you ever failed anything?
(38:22):
It seems like everything you touch turns to gold or
platinum for that matter. And that's funny people say that,
but you know it's it's like, clearly, you know, I
have tried some things that didn't work out necessarily the
way that I wanted to, you know, um, and when
(38:43):
those times happened, I just don't I refuse to let
it get me down forever. I feel like you have
to just jump back up and try it again and
make it happen, or even go to the next thing immediately,
like don't waste time going into your what was me moment?
You have to just like get up, figure it out,
and do it again. Because people never see the failures.
(39:08):
They only see the successes, you know. And so if
you get so caught up in your failure, it's like
you you'll defeat yourself. You just have to get up,
do it again, figure it out. That's my motto. You're
a taurust, I know you've dad to do that. I'm
very similar in a lot of respects. I always attribute
to delusion. I'm very delusional about things like when things
(39:30):
feel like yeah, because when things fail, I'm like, well,
that wasn't me. It just didn't work out, and like
someone else is better for it. But I did a
great job and it doesn't really matter, and I'm able
to like trick myself and to be like, it's fine
on the next thing, all right. I mean all the
times that, um, I know, it was two times that
I felt defeated to me. Typically, I feel like whenever
(39:51):
something goes wrong with me is because I put it
in the hands of somebody else, meaning, um, I decided
to do a musical play. It really was inspired by
by my life and things that were happening at the time.
I put it together in a month two months. It
was amazing. Kill didn't wrote all the music, did everything.
(40:13):
It was a musical, and when we promoted in Atlanta
did great. I sold out the whole weekend. It was awesome.
But I wanted to take it on tour. I had
never taken anything on tour before, so I didn't really
trust myself or my team to go about and figure
it out on our own, because I was like, well,
(40:33):
we should let another promoter or somebody else, you know,
put it together, put it in the hands of somebody else.
Let's just say it went downhill. And it just was like,
why did I do that? You know what I mean,
because it's like you put your baby in the hands
of somebody else to figure out and they let's just
(40:54):
say they didn't figure it out, okay. So I was
just very sad, very disappoint it and how that happened.
But like last year I have I did. I put
together another variety show. It's called Welcome to the Dungeons,
a burleigh mean excuse me, a burlesque, like a very
risk aid type show. We decided to put it and
(41:16):
take it on tour, and yeah, I found uh somebody
to help us set up the venues. But that was it.
Everything else we did our own, we promoted it, we
did all of that selling out, killing it, did our
think and then it just made me saying, well, you
should have did this a long time ago. Ye, Kenny.
It's been so inspirational to talk to you, because I mean,
(41:39):
you've done so much, You've been so successful in so
many different platforms, but like to see kind of how
you do it and kind of the mentality that you
you need to have to be successful. It's like really
really evident in just talking to you and and almost
like a little like catch double, you know, like I
feel after listening to this story that like I can
(41:59):
do things that like maybe before I didn't think I could.
So thank you so much for taking the time and
chatting with us. I want to be respectful of your time.
But before I let you go, can you do a
quick rapid fire question session? Alright? Rapid fire questions with
Candy Births? Number one? Do you have a nickname? And
it's so? What is it? And how did you get it?
(42:20):
My friends call me KB, and obviously that's my initial
candy Birds, but it's to them that's the cooler name.
They're like, what up, KB? I'm like, what's up? You know? Oh?
And then some people call me candy ms KB. That's
what we used to call good weed back in the day,
kind buck KB. Who's your first kiss? Oh? My first?
(42:45):
Oh yeah? It was the friend of mine, Adolpho. We
lived across the street from each other. Were a little
kid kid but then we dated again what we actually
dated when we was in high school for a quick
second or little short period of time, but as little
little kids. Um, I think we had kissed behind the
(43:06):
bushes or something. It wasn't a real kiss, but you
mean my first real kiss, my first real kiss, was
in middle school and it was on the school bus
with this guy named Kareem mill. I just thought he
was everything. Was the first ever went to first Connor,
Oh Salt and Pepper, Pepper U And it was so
(43:26):
cool because my first concert tour that I was ever
on was with Salt and Pepper. Crazy right, yeah, Um, well,
when I was younger, and I think I can't remember
which album they it was on, but there it was
a lot of different artists on the tour, but they
were my favorite artists at the time, So I remember
them being on this concert that I went to when
I was young. And then when our group first got
(43:50):
our you know, first album out, we were on the
Salt and Pepper tour when they had Shoot and What
a Man the album. So it was so cool because
they were so nice and so, you know, my favorite
girl group of all time. For me to be on
tour with them was amazing. That's awesome. If last one,
if you want an oscar, who would be the first
(44:10):
person you think in your speech? My mom. She's always
been my biggest supporter. Kenny Burrs, thank you so much
for taking the time. Congratulations on the mass singer, but
literally congratulations on everything. Your resume is ridiculous, your story
is inspirational. If people want to find out more about you,
where should they go? Um, I would say you can
(44:32):
go to my website Candy online dot com, k A
N d I online dot com. But or just follow
me on social media? Uh, Instagram and Twitter? Is just
can't Kadia? You got you got just the first name? Yes,
isn't that good? And you said, honestly, I didn't have
it at for somebody else had my name and I
(44:54):
d M them. It was like, can you please give
me my name? Last thing? Is there anything that I
didn't ask you about or we didn't talk about that
you want to promote um? Right now? It's all about
the music for me. So if everybody could stream and
download and I mean yeah, stream and download my new
single used to Love Me, I would love you for life. Canny,
(45:15):
thank you so much again for being on the show.
You rock, Thanks for having me by Wow. That story
is crazy. Everything she touched turns to gold, note strike
that platinum. Not only is she super talented, like that's obvious.
She can sing, she can act, she can dance, but
also like the way her mind works, it's always like
(45:35):
how do I connect the dots to the next thing,
finds the need fills it makes money from the thing
that She was like, well we need that. Someone's gonna
make money off of it, might as well be me.
Her portfolio is so incredibly diverse it is bonkers. I
love talking to people like that because, like I said
in the interview, I'm now like I need to go
(45:56):
sit down and write some ideas out and figure out
how to put those into the world. Candy Burr's kicking
ascid taking name since back in the day. Alright, guys,
that was an awesome episode of The Wells Cast. At
stories like those, that makes me happy to do this show.
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(46:16):
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(00:22):
my show. It's called the Wells Cast and my name
is Wells. So real creative on the name. The problem was,
here's the thing. I would have had a better name
for the show, but the initial show was the Pratt
Cast because I was doing the show with Stephanie Pratt
about the Hills and then she she up and vanished
to freaking London town and left America. But the show
(00:43):
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let's just continue doing the show and then I'll just
have other famous people on instead of steph. Because of that,
we just changed it to Wells Cast because the reason
was Pratt Cast. But I really do wish the name
of the show was something different, just so you guys know.
I wanted to be called or Original Stories with Wells.
But there are people who I won't name names, Amy Sugarman,
(01:06):
who um was like, you gotta we should have just
be Wild's cast, and you know what, they pay her
a lot of money over at my heart to make
these decisions. So that's what it is. So if you
have any gripe over the name of the show, even
though it's has it's just kind of whatever. Actually, don't
don't go out after Amy Sugarman. She's the wonderful woman
and she's made my life so much, so much more
(01:28):
awesome for knowing her. Very excited about the show. Today
got another alumni of the Mass Singer on the show.
But here's my crazy thing about the Mass Singer. They're
these really really famous people with crazy stories that they're
not letting you get to see. If I was in
the pitch meeting for this, I'd be like, yeah, but
(01:49):
uh wait, okay, so let me get this straight. You're
gonna have Jesse McCartney on a show for like eight
weeks straight, but we don't get to see his face
the moneymaker, Well, no, you can't do that. I want
to see his face, you know. But someone was like,
you know what, maybe this will work, and it does.
(02:09):
That show works, it kills, but the big name you
don't get to see until the day they gotta leave,
which is crazy to me. But it is a hit show,
and we've watched every season. The names are getting bigger
and bigger and bigger and bigger, like everyone's wanting to
do it, which makes total sense. But today's guest has
done everything. If I've learned anything about the industry, you
(02:30):
got to diversify your bonds. You know, you have to
be able to do everything. You gotta have your hand
in every freaking pot, because sometimes one pot of boil
over full of money and then sometimes drives a Sara desert.
And that's what our guests on the show this week
is doing. She was a member of the vocal group
(02:51):
Escape back in the day, when a Grammy for Best
R and B Song for her contribution on the hit
I Don't Want That's Gonna Got? That can get a
look from me hanging on the passenger side of his
best friends Bat trying and me, oh god, that's a
good song. She stars in Bravo's reality show Real Housewives
of Atlanta. She's married to Todd Tucker, got a bunch
(03:13):
of kids, and we just found out that she was
the night Angel on the Mass Singer When she was
a teenager, her no nonsense single mom gave her an
important piece of advice that would shape her approach to
her career. Mom says, don't put all your eggs in
one basket, and the Atlanta born and bred singer, songwriter, entrepreneur,
(03:35):
and TV personality says, today that was the thing that
changed everything. That makes sense because nowadays you gotta be
good at a lot of stuff if you want to
make a little bit of money. Cannot wait to have
on the show today. Oh yeah, we're talking to Candy
Berths from Real Housewives of Atlanta and the Night Angel
from The Mass Singer is a show you are not
(03:57):
going to want to miss. I don't know. I gotta
(04:19):
Candy Burrs on the Wells Cast. What's up? Oh? Everything?
Everything is up right now. The world is just kind
of up in the air at this point. The world
is up in the air and I'm just feeling up
in the sky like I'm on a high right now. Yeah,
you're feeling good though, yes, man, I mean this is
(04:40):
my birthday week. My birthday was Sunday. My birthday was Saturday.
Are you serious? Yeah? Sixteenth? Yeah, May seventeen. Sorry, yeah, yeah,
this is a good week. Just winning the Mask Singer
the same week of my birthday was just super cool.
We finally in doubt. Who the night angel is? Did
(05:03):
you have so much fun on? Oh? Yeah, for sure.
It was like Okay, first of all, it's just crazy
when you first get there and you know they immediately
from rehearsal, you know, you had to put all these gloves,
the tall socks. They want every bit of your body
covered because they don't want anybody to know who you are.
(05:24):
So it's like, you know, I got used to this
whole secrecy, this whole secret movement thing, and then when
we got there the day of everybody's walking around with
these silly costumes on. It was just crazy. You know,
I never really figured out anybody except for I did
figure out. Yeah, they keep us separating except for you know,
at the end when they bring us all on stage
(05:45):
at once, but other than that, we're separated the whole time.
But this one particular day I had to They were
taking me backstage to my dressing room to get ready
for sound check, and I guess he had his sound
check right before mine, and I heard the end of
his rehearsal and I heard him doing criss cross jump
and you know he does maget magety that part. I
(06:07):
was like, that's a bow wow, I know his voice anywhere.
Had Brett Michaels on a couple weeks ago, and I
guess Sharon Osborne had a similar thing where she was like,
I've known him for thirty years. I know that's exactly
who it is, that Brett Michaels. That's over it'. I
keep thinking, no one that I've known really really well
has been on the show. But I wonder if i'd
be like, I know for sure that's that's so and so.
(06:29):
So it's really crazy. That was your response. What did
you think about your clues? Some of them I didn't
even know, Like I didn't even catch on it, like
it was so crazy, Like I would look at what
the fans were saying online. It was amazing to me
that a lot of them were figuring that stuff out,
because I was like I even had to go back
and like emails some of the producers like yo, like
(06:51):
what did this mean? But like okay, for instance, I
think they had some ducks flying around or something or whatever,
and I he was like, bills, bills, bills for the
song he wrote for this show. I was like, oh cute,
I like it. And then it was um somebody. I
(07:11):
didn't even notice this. It was on the front of
like a hotel. They showed four or five six, and
I didn't get it. I didn't notice it at first,
but that's the title of a song UM that I
did with so Lay back in the day. It was
a number one rap song four or five six, and
I was like, oh, you guys are clever, I guess.
(07:32):
And it makes sense because when Ken goes like on
his like crazy weird like uh connecting of the dots thing,
I'm like, can stop whatever you're smoking. First of all,
send it over my way because I'm boring quarantine. I
need some of it. But like hearing you explain some
of those crazy things, like, I feel like sometimes he
might not be like that far off. Well yeah, I
(07:52):
mean sometimes he's like tracks and hear me. He's like,
I know exactly who it is. It's so funny when
he does that. But he was off when it was,
you know, for me. But I did understand his reasoning
when he came up with UM. Gina Gina romarin Um
Tissia Kimp, my mind went blank for a second. But
(08:15):
she is extremely talented and she's a great performer. And
then and she does sing and act or whatever, and
I could understand how he could relate some of the
clues to her. Who is your favorite guest? That wasn't you?
Oh I saw somebody guest Stevie Nicks. Oh all right, yeah.
(08:37):
I was like, okay, icon, I will take it. That's
a good one. But um, I thought she was amazing. Now.
The one that cracked me up was when they were
like little Kim. I said, really, little Kim, now, mind you.
I love Little Kim and she's amazing. But I never
knew her as a singer. I didn't. I never think
(08:57):
that she I don't think she sung any songs. I
know she as reps. But I was like, they were like,
your swag. Your swag reminds me a little Kim. I
was like, now I got swag, but I don't know
if I have swag like little Kim, Like, come on, man,
you've give me too much credit here. What was your
favorite and least favorite thing about your costume? Oh? Well,
(09:18):
my favorite thing was that I felt like my costume
was like amazing to look at, like the wings, the jewels,
the harnessed thing across the chest, the you know, all
of that and then I was the only one who
had an actual face, like a human like face on
my costume. Even though it's a little spooky because it's
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like like one of those dolls when it mounts me,
stay open, look creepy. That was a little creepy, but
it was the dope costume. The part that I hated
was how hot that costume was. When I tell you,
I was about to die, especially the first like performance,
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because I was like about to pass out for real.
The wings they made my arms. I had to stay
back like this the whole time because it would pull
my shoulders back. But it made it hard to breathe
because you know, I couldn't constrict, you know, my chest
was like killed in one spot. And so that and
then it was so hot I literally almost passed out
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in the first dress rehearsal. I was like, how am
I going to do this? This is uh, this is insane.
Are you happy? Yeah? Totally. Before I got on this show,
and there would be so many people who would say
negative things like, oh, she can't sing, Oh I hate
her voice. You know why, you know, whatever they have
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to say about me as far as musically. Now, it's
crazy because like for me, I'm like, okay, I started
in this business in a singing group. We had hit records,
but then it starts making you have self doubt when
you see comments and tweets like that, because it makes
me feel like, okay, well you know, okay, yeah, I
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have song on hit songs, but maybe my voice is
not hot now maybe it was just hot back then
or whatever, And then I started doubting myself. So to
be on this show and everybody gives me positive feedback,
and you know, all the judges are showing so much love,
and even when I look on the tweets online, you know,
people are like, oh my god, not Angel killed it.
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It's just really it rebuilt my confidence, you know what
I mean. It made me say to myself, like, why
have I been listening to the haters? Like I'm the
main one who tells people just fly above the haters.
I'm not supposed to listen to the haters, so what
am I doing? It just was a good experience for me.
I really I feel like I needed this. I needed it.
That's awesome to hear and really cool takeaway from the
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whole thing. It's kind of funny too, because the irony
isn't lost on me because you are hiding behind something
but showcasing your talent, and then it's a bunch of
aids who are hiding behind a Twitter handle just being
rude for no real reason. And then you get to
then take off the mask and be like, hey, thank you,
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I'm great. You know, yeah, but you know what, I
didn't even think about that. You're right, they're hiding behind
their computers throwing make my way and and I shouldn't
even be accepting it. I should just I should have
always just leaved in my own talent, because I mean,
I've proven myself in the past. So I don't know
why I fall into that mode of thinking, oh, maybe
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they're right, maybe I'm just I just don't have it
anywhere or whatever. You know, I should have just you know,
just going and kept doing my thing. But um, I
don't know it. Being in the being behind the mask though,
it's helpful because it just makes you feel like, Okay,
they're not judging Candy, they're judging Night Angel, so it's
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just only whatever Night Angel does. As far as like
performance singing, I mean they're judging based on my vocals
that night or my performance in Night it's not because
oh I don't like Handy from the Real Housewives, so
I'm just gonna throw hate on her way online or whatever,
you know. And so I felt like that was pretty
cool that I don't have the pre judge, I didn't
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have any prejudgments going against me. Yeah, congratulations. I'm so
excited for you, and I'm glad that you were able
to kind of like walk away from the experience with
just so much more positive self esteem. You know. That's
a really cool outcome of a thing that's just it's
a silly show, but like those things mean a lot.
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You know. I've done a bunch of reality shows. When
you walk away feeling good with how you did, it
means a lot, you know. So congratulations. Um, I'm not
sure if anyone explained to you the kind of the
premise of this show. At the end of the day,
it's an origin story show. I like to find out
where people came from and how the hell they got
here and how the hell they became so successful, almost
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like a blueprint, if you will, for a lot of
people out there and whatever they do, whether it's the
entertainment into street singing, songwriting, dancing, acting, or you know
if you want to be a lawyer or you know,
a doctor or whatever. These stories I think help a
lot of people. And just going through your resume, your
credits are the most diverse of almost any guests we've
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had on You've done literally everything. If you will allow me,
I'd like to hear your story, and I'd like to
start the beginning. You want to start at the beginning? Wow?
Okay um. I started out in the group escape Um
when I was well. We got together when I was fourteen.
I met them when I first went to high school.
So were you singing and like writing? And was was
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your mom like pushing you towards this kind of entertainment career? No?
In middle school, I actually was not doing the right things,
fucking up basically, And it just so happened that uh,
that summer right before the ninth grade. I mean I
used to like to sing, you know, I was saying
around my friends and stuff, but I didn't look at
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it as like a real career. And a friend of
mine she wanted to audition for this new performing art
school that was opening um the following year. But you
had to audition, and so she didn't want to do
about herself, so she asked me to come in audition
with her, and since I wasn't doing anything that summer,
I was like, okay, you know, cool whatever, and we
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did the audition. I end up getting picked and she didn't,
which was crazy, you know for me. But then I
just decided. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna
go ahead and go there. I had no intentions of going,
like I really didn't even want to go to that school,
but you know, because I got picked and because the
little audition process was fun, I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna try it. That one decision changed my entire life
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because that's where I went to that school. I end
up meeting my group members, um, Tomika Scott and Latasha
Scott and then well, at first we had another group member.
Her name was Tamara Coggin's. She and I are still
best friends to this day. Her name is tam World,
but we car Tan and then also Tiny you know,
she's also a TV personality as well. But yeah, we
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started out in the group together fourteen, started singing with
the group, and then we it took us two years
to get a deal. So we got our deal when
I was sixteen with so so dev Jermaine Duprie. From there,
it was just it just took off. Our first single
blew up. Well, first of all, let me just say this.
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My brother passed away when I was fifteen, Okay, yeah,
and he was like, um, he had a lot to
do with my group, Like he was very um supportive
and telling us, oh, y'all got what it makes to
take the pros and all this stuff. And he actually
introduced us to our first manager, who is the one
who took us to Jermaine Dupree. But my my my
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brother passed. I just it just felt like I just
became numb to everything. Like the world, it was just
like nothing to me anymore. And I was just existing,
but I was still, you know, doing what I had
to do musically. But when I tell you, it was
so crazy that it felt like like you know how
people say they have at a guardian angel, Like I
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literally I feel like I gotta have I have a
guardian angel, Like like literally, everything just started happening in
my life and just falling into place. Like I told you,
I was new to that school. The following year, I
won miss tenth grade, which is something I didn't even
want to go for but somebody put my name in
the thing, and so I went ahead and said okay,
and I end up winning. Then right after that I
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ended up. Our group got an audition to be on
bt S Team Summit. At the time, they had a
talent showcase, so we were on that, and then all
of a sudden after that is when Germaine decided that
he went to go ahead and sign us, because we
had sang for him before that performance, but being on there,
he was like, oh, yeah, I want to sign you guys.
And then even though we had the deal, a lot
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of people was like, those girls ain't gonna really do anything.
Our first single, blew Up, you know, just kicking it.
It was our first single and it wasn't even out
long before it blew Up went number one, and then
our album was platinum, and all of our albums together
was successful. We really defeated ourselves because we couldn't get
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alone basically, and um, we end up taking a hiatus
after our third album and from there, I honestly didn't
know what was gonna happen. Like during that process of
our third album, we kind of knew that the group
was gonna take a little break after so I remember
I was telling Tiny, my other group member. I was like, yo, like,
we need to start working on another project because, um
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you know, we don't know what's gonna happen after this
third album or whatever, because one of our other group
members were supposed to be going solo. So we were
just like, I was like, let's just start writing for ourselves.
Come up with this our project, and then we could
submit it to the label and show them what we've done.
And one of the songs that we did for ourselves
was no Scrubs and somebody played it for um l
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a Read and he ended up loving the song. One
it for TLC and when he was like, let him
have it, and obviously you see the result of that song.
That song is like this the gift that keeps on
giving it. Just from that song, I've had so many
other people who sampled it in different things that I
keep getting great publishing checks from. But yeah, so from there,
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I just started writing for everybody. You know, I had
the opportunities to write for. I wrote five songs on
the Destiny's Child's writing writing on the Wall album. Obviously
Bills Bills, Bills, which was another big hit. Um bug
A Boo, which was a big song. I had multiple
hits with them, and then I had hits with Pink.
I had her first song she ever put out There
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you Go. I wrote that, and then I worked with
you know, Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey and in Sync.
You know, I used to love them on that No
Strings Attached album. I had that song. It makes me
ill wrote with that for them. I love them. I
love You've written so many hit songs that you had
to like take a beat to remember what in sync
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song you had written, because I mean, and I don't
I'm not trying to, you know, brag or anything like that.
That's not my intention. But you know, I have written
a lot of songs, and to be honest with you,
I do forget them sometimes I can't repeat all the
lyrics or anything like that, because the songs that I
wrote a long time ago, you know, just to be
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able to say that I worked with some of these
people who you know, obviously they all have done some
amazing things, and um so it's it's really been awesome.
And then from there, you know, I just kinda went
behind the scenes for a while, you know, building my
family and and you know, still working on music, writing music,
but man, the opportunity came up for being on the Housewives,
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and that was a fluke. I was just talking to
one of my friends one day. I was working on
another project with Tiny and one of my friends, Derek
Ja he does here, he's been on the show before,
but he was like, Kenny, the Real Housewives, like they're
looking for somebody, and um, I'm gonna tell them to
call you because they need somebody with their own money.
I was like, huh. I was like, I'm doing something already.
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He was like, well, I'm gonna tell them to call
you anyway. And so the project that I actually was
working on actually fell through. The people decided they didn't
want to use me for the project, and I was
kind of disappointed, but I was just like, oh, well,
it wasn't meant to be or whatever. And then literally
like the next week, the people from The Housewives reached
out and was like, hey, we want to talk to
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you and meet up with you. And I was like, okay, cool,
you know, I did the interviews. Cool, and they ended up,
you know, asked me to be a part of the show.
And here I am eleven seasons later, with multiple other
shows and stuff, and so I just said, you know it,
I think it's really true. I really do have an
amazing guardian angel. So I guess it's kind of fitting
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that I was the night Angel I'm massing or wow.
It was there for sighting that. No, they actually had
gave me other costumes to choose from that I had
picked one of, and then a week or two later
they came back and was like, hey, this costume became available.
Would you like to get this one instead? And when
I saw the picture, I was like definitely. I was
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like this one, it's dope. I want this the wings,
the jewels, you know, I was like, this is me.
And so that's how that came about. I have two
cousins who passed away that we're really close to me,
and the same thing. It's like this weird thing of
I feel like they're always kind of helping me out
and like I'll have these like signs that they're around me.
And I've done a lot of like thinking about it.
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Whether it's true or not, it doesn't really matter, right like,
because if it is true, that's wonderful, and if it isn't,
it's still serving its purpose of I believe it's true,
which makes me feel more free to be me because
I'm like, oh, I can't fail because I know Tyler
and Blake are right like on my shoulder, like helping
me out right exactly. You telling that story of you've
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written so many songs and then you were like, man,
what what instinct song was it? I was watching this
documentary about Bob Dylan, who's like written like everything right,
and he was talking to Joan Bayez about and she
played him a song called Love Is a Four Letter
Word and he was like, well, that's a great song.
Who what did you write it? And she was like,
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you wrote it, your idiot. That's the when you were
telling that story, I was like, this is the Bob
Dylan story. You're you're so amazingly diverse with your your
musical career that you're forgetting the hits that you're writing.
So you play for dupre before you get signed. What
was that moment like when we first mentioned Maine. It
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was that his nineteenth birthday party, and yeah, I remember
because we had to we sang Happy Birthday, so we
had did like this whole harmonizing thing. You know. He
was like, Oh, we're gonna kill it. You know. Um,
at the time, Chris Cross had not yet come out
it and so he listened to us and he saw
you guys sound great. He was like, I, um, he said,
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right now, I'm working on another project and when I
finished it with them, then I'll come back and get
you guys. And so it just kind of felt like, yeah, yeah, whatever,
because we hadn't heard that from other people were singing
for anybody who would listen. And if you can understand,
at the time, in Atlanta, music had started really booming
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because l A Read and Baby Face they had moved
their record label, The Face Records, here, and so you know,
people had started getting record deals. Um, you know TLC
had come out, Um you know, uh, I think Tony
Braxton had came out with her albums. So people had
started really you know, doing their thing in Atlanta. You know,
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we were just like, oh, man, if we could just
get that shot and we could just get somebody to
sign us, you know, we would be able to blow up.
You know, we didn't know how hard it would be.
After we just thought, okay, you get a deal and
you're gonna blow up up. So when he said, oh yeah,
I'm gonna come back and sign y'all. We thought he
was just brushing us off like everybody else, and he
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actually was true to his word. Um, it did take
a year. Um basically he was working on Criss Cross
at the time. Criss Cross once he put and got
them out there, and obviously they blew up and sold
millions and millions of records. They ended up he got
his own record label, So so deaf and I guess
the right around that time is when it was shortly
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after we were on the Team Summit competition that I
told you about on BT and our manager Ian Burke,
he had went back to Jermaine and was like, hey,
did you see the girls they were on you know,
the show, and Jermaine was like, he said that we
were the ghetto in Vogue. And the reason why he
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said that is because, Okay, we got on BT with
we had these baggy I don't know if you remember
cross colors that was like these bright, older, you know
jeans everybody was wearing back in the early nineties. So
we had the baggy baggy Cross colors on and we
could not sing the song with the track because they
couldn't get it cleared. So Tasha moves to my group.
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She beat boxed and we sang and harmonized over the
beat box, and so he was like, Okay, you guys,
you know that's nothing but the streets in the hood.
That's the only way y'all could have pulled that off. Like,
who else is what girls are beat boxing and singing?
So yeah, it was it was. It was interesting performance.
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I mean, it turned out to be a really good win.
Obviously it changed our careers, but um, yeah, that's what
he thought of. And then we harmonized too, So that
was the relation that he related us to in Vogue
because at that time in Vogue was iconic. You know,
they were harmonizing and we all looked up to them
and we sang and it was one of their songs
that we had sang on the show. I was reading
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up on you, and I think there was kind of
a pivotal moment in your life when you went to
the Soul Trained Music Awards and you watched Queen Latifa
except like the award for Entertainer of the Year, and
something kind of clicked for you. Then received Dammy Davis
Junior Award, and basically they gave her that award because
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at the time she was an actress. She obviously was
a successful rapper. At the time, she had produced her
own show. She was producing UM her TV show and
and UM she was she had a management company, so
she was managing all these artists, artists I know at
the time. I think she had managed Monica. She was
managing like a lot of people. So it was like
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multiple things that she was doing and she was successful
in every area. And that inspired me so much. Like literally,
I was sitting in that chair watching her, and I
remember turning into tiny and I said, I'm going to
get that award one day. And so I went home
the very next day because I was like, Okay, what
can I do to get this award? I'm already singing
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what else can I do? And I was like, okay,
well she manages people. Okay, I'm gonna manage somebody, That's
what I said. And so I called my friend Richard Wingo,
who I went to high school with me. Because I
was only like one year out of school, so I
probably was eighteen nineteen. I called Wingo. I said, hey,
you still got that group that you were working with.
He was like yeah. I was like, okay, come over
to my house. I want to manage all and that
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group is Jagged Edge, and I helped them get their
deal just also Deaf and now millions of records later,
they sold more records than we did in the group Escape.
So I'm thankful that I was able to help other people,
you know, take their careers to the next level. But
it was all inspired by Queen with Teeth. I mean,
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you've done everything right, You've You're extremely accomplished and awarded songwriter.
Same goes for performer. You've now tackled TV management, You've
got like other projects, like I want to talk about
the bedroom stuff that you've got candy. Yeah, you've everything.
What brings you the most joy? M that's a good question.
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I like the creative stuff the best. So I love
writing songs, I love singing. I love acting as well,
and that's why I'm so excited. I um, I have
a role coming in the show The Shy on season
three is coming out this summer. So those things, anything
that's like performing, arts driven, those are my passions. So
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I was singing and right and for free, like that's
just something I love to do and I don't really
have to get paid you to do it. I don't
even need an audience. I could just do it around
the house and I'm happy. So I guess those are
the things that I love. Being in the studio and
creating music is amazing to me, and it's especially amazing
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when you're able to see other people perform the things
that you create. So I'm not really sure if I
what I love more. Is it if it's if it's
me singing my own stuff, being on stage and performing it,
or seeing somebody else else performing it and then being successful.
I still haven't figured out which one I like most,
because I still get just as much joy out of
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seeing somebody else being a hit with something that I
wrote where I know I was a part of it.
You know what I mean when you see somebody be great,
but you know that you had a hand in it,
and that's a great feeling to you know. Yeah, helping
lift people up is is an amazing feeling. I mean,
I think of all the I mean, I don't know,
I don't even know if it's true, but if all
the things that you've created, Scrubs has got to be
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up there of things that you created and help other
people be successful with. Is there any part of you
that's like a kind of wish I had held on
that one. I never and people said that all the time,
but I feel like it might not have done the
same thing if it was if I held onto it,
it may not have had the same effect. You know.
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I feel like everything happens for a reason by me
giving them that song that launched my career as a
songwriter to be able to write for so many people.
And you know, people don't wanna work with you if
they feel like you're only gonna keep the best songs
for yourself. You know. People want to feel like, oh,
I'm working with somebody who's gonna give me a hit,
you know. And I really at that time, I didn't
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really know how to write for other artists, Like you know,
it was so competition driven. Everybody was in competition with
each other. So even though I knew I wanted to
write for other artists, I didn't know how to make
that happen at that time. So once again, that Guardian
Angel was just kind of working for me whether right.
People heard it to get them the song for that
opportunity to fall in my lap, and I ran with it.
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It's like for me, you only have to crack the
door open. You cracked that door open. I'm I'm kicking
it in at that point and I'm gonna run with it.
And so from there, I was just trying to stay
in the studio writing for anybody who would let me
write for them or correct collaborate with them. I didn't care.
I was just like, Okay, who can I write for next?
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And that was my whole you know, vibe back then.
And I love of writing for other people. I do
love singing. Singing as well. When my group we just
did a reunion tour, what was that two years ago?
Oh my gosh. It's sold out across the country every
place that we went, and it was so exciting to
know that twenty years later, here we are able to
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sell out arenas. I couldn't even believe it, you know,
but that feeling of being on stage every night, it
was amazing too. So I want to like the best,
to be honest with well, speaking of your music, tell
me about used to love me. Oh so that's my
new single that I dropped, and I dropped it yesterday
and I was excited because today when I looked, it's
(32:37):
number five on the dance chart on iTunes. Or whatever.
But I wanted to do something that was totally different
than anything that I've ever done before. You know, I
think before as an artist, I always was kind of
like stuck in a box because, you know, you start
off as an R and B artist, people just look
at you as an R and B artist. It's hard
to break out of one genre of music once you
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start there. And so being on this show the mass singer,
you know, I decided I was gonna do every genre,
you know, when I was on the show. So I
say rock, I sang country, I say hip hop, song,
I did all the songs, and after it was done,
I said, you know what, I want to do a
project for myself where I'm not stuck in a box.
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And I wanted to do something that everybody can dance to.
And so I intentionally did a record that I felt
like it could play anywhere in the world, and people
as soon as they hear that beat, they're just gonna
want to dance, you know, And I think that's something
that brings the world together when you can dance, you
know what I mean, When it's a song that just
makes you feel good, it makes you want to move,
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and so that's why I chose to do that type
of record, And I'm friends with Toddrick Hall and so
I hate him up. I was like, hey, um, I
want you to jump on the song with me, and
he was more than excited to be a part of it.
So that worked out. Speaking of grooving and feeling good,
I out to know more about bedroom candy. What is this?
(34:04):
And do I need to get something for my fiance? Oh?
You do for her and yourself? Okay, let's let's get
into it. Uh Okay. So I used to do an
online show called Candy Coated Nights and it was all
about sex and relationships and I had like a really
big following online for it, and so after doing it
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for a few years, I was just kind of like, Okay,
I got this following, so I should find something that
goes along with this show. And obviously we were talking
very adults on the show. So a friend of mine
was like, you should do adult toys, And I know
that sounds back then it sounded crazy. Now I hear
people out the time saying I want to have my
own sex toy line, But back then it was like
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only porn stars were doing it, really, you know. But
I was like, you know what, I kind of like
that idea because I felt like it's important, you know,
as a woman, I feel like we need to know
how to how to take care of our own bodies,
you know what I mean, and need to know our
spot so we can tell our partner how to please
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us seeing them. And so I always felt like it
was important for a woman to have at least one
good bedroom toy, okay, and so, and I don't want
people to feel like you have to be some type
of porn star just to make that happen, Like anybody
could like to please their bodies, you know what I mean,
or please theirselves. Are just just you don't want to
feel good, so why you gotta make it It seem
(35:27):
like it's a dirty thing. It's not a dirty thing.
It's just you know, self pleasure is great, you know.
And then you know, so now it went from just
being like one product and then you know, I have
I have children or whatever. So I always felt like
you need at least a product that even if your
kid find it, you ain't gotta be scared and ashamed.
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So we started out with um one. It looks like
a little lipstick. It like really looks like a lipstick
case or whatever. When you open it, obviously it's something else.
Then I had another toy that vibrated to music, which
is awesome, so we went from that. So now we
have hundreds of toys and we've won awards for our
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adult products or whatever, and now we don't have just
adult products. Now it's a whole lifestyle brand. I got
UM you know, bad bed and bath products. I have everything,
and we got consultants that actually sell it, you know,
go and sell our products. So we have thousands of
consultants that room candy consultants across the country and they
sell a lot of the products. And UM now have
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a makeup lick called Candy Coded Cosmetics, so they sell
that as well. And it's so cool because since we've
been in quarantine, I thought that it was gonna hurt
our business because you know, you think everybody stuck in
the house, you can't have in home parties. But now
they're doing online parties. And when I tell you, we
had the biggest month ever when everybody went into quarantine.
(36:54):
So I was like, right now is the time. Everybody
wants to be happy, Everybody wants to feel good. Everybody
want to have their own businesses. And um, that's a
cool thing about Bedroom Candy because we provide like amazing
products and then we also do like coaching and different
things to help people build their their businesses and so
try to help everybody be successful that partners up with me.
(37:17):
You know. Yeah, it's just gone to the next level.
So an idea that started off as just something like
oh yeah, well what should I do? Turned out to
now it's like eight years later and it's like a
huge award winning brand. And then we also got kid
products too. I got raising as I know it sounds crazy,
but that's the way I look at it. Okay, when
(37:38):
you learn how to take care of yourself in the bedroom,
sometimes you get a little gift that you will keep
your lifelong. And that's where raising gates comes in. So
as a woman, I just want to I just want to,
Like when I think of the things that I want
to do business wise, I just feel like, Okay, as
(37:58):
a woman, what do I need? What do I use?
You know? And so I just go with what appeals
to you know me, Well, yeah, necessity is the mother
of invention, So it makes sense. Have you ever failed anything?
(38:22):
It seems like everything you touch turns to gold or
platinum for that matter. And that's funny people say that,
but you know it's it's like, clearly, you know, I
have tried some things that didn't work out necessarily the
way that I wanted to, you know, um, and when
(38:43):
those times happened, I just don't I refuse to let
it get me down forever. I feel like you have
to just jump back up and try it again and
make it happen, or even go to the next thing immediately,
like don't waste time going into your what was me moment?
You have to just like get up, figure it out,
and do it again. Because people never see the failures.
(39:08):
They only see the successes, you know. And so if
you get so caught up in your failure, it's like
you you'll defeat yourself. You just have to get up,
do it again, figure it out. That's my motto. You're
a taurust, I know you've dad to do that. I'm
very similar in a lot of respects. I always attribute
to delusion. I'm very delusional about things like when things
(39:30):
feel like yeah, because when things fail, I'm like, well,
that wasn't me. It just didn't work out, and like
someone else is better for it. But I did a
great job and it doesn't really matter, and I'm able
to like trick myself and to be like, it's fine
on the next thing, all right. I mean all the
times that, um, I know, it was two times that
I felt defeated to me. Typically, I feel like whenever
(39:51):
something goes wrong with me is because I put it
in the hands of somebody else, meaning, um, I decided
to do a musical play. It really was inspired by
by my life and things that were happening at the time.
I put it together in a month two months. It
was amazing. Kill didn't wrote all the music, did everything.
(40:13):
It was a musical, and when we promoted in Atlanta
did great. I sold out the whole weekend. It was awesome.
But I wanted to take it on tour. I had
never taken anything on tour before, so I didn't really
trust myself or my team to go about and figure
it out on our own, because I was like, well,
(40:33):
we should let another promoter or somebody else, you know,
put it together, put it in the hands of somebody else.
Let's just say it went downhill. And it just was like,
why did I do that? You know what I mean,
because it's like you put your baby in the hands
of somebody else to figure out and they let's just
(40:54):
say they didn't figure it out, okay. So I was
just very sad, very disappoint it and how that happened.
But like last year I have I did. I put
together another variety show. It's called Welcome to the Dungeons,
a burleigh mean excuse me, a burlesque, like a very
risk aid type show. We decided to put it and
(41:16):
take it on tour, and yeah, I found uh somebody
to help us set up the venues. But that was it.
Everything else we did our own, we promoted it, we
did all of that selling out, killing it, did our
think and then it just made me saying, well, you
should have did this a long time ago. Ye, Kenny.
It's been so inspirational to talk to you, because I mean,
(41:39):
you've done so much, You've been so successful in so
many different platforms, but like to see kind of how
you do it and kind of the mentality that you
you need to have to be successful. It's like really
really evident in just talking to you and and almost
like a little like catch double, you know, like I
feel after listening to this story that like I can
(41:59):
do things that like maybe before I didn't think I could.
So thank you so much for taking the time and
chatting with us. I want to be respectful of your time.
But before I let you go, can you do a
quick rapid fire question session? Alright? Rapid fire questions with
Candy Births? Number one? Do you have a nickname? And
it's so? What is it? And how did you get it?
(42:20):
My friends call me KB, and obviously that's my initial
candy Birds, but it's to them that's the cooler name.
They're like, what up, KB? I'm like, what's up? You know? Oh?
And then some people call me candy ms KB. That's
what we used to call good weed back in the day,
kind buck KB. Who's your first kiss? Oh? My first?
(42:45):
Oh yeah? It was the friend of mine, Adolpho. We
lived across the street from each other. Were a little
kid kid but then we dated again what we actually
dated when we was in high school for a quick
second or little short period of time, but as little
little kids. Um, I think we had kissed behind the
(43:06):
bushes or something. It wasn't a real kiss, but you
mean my first real kiss, my first real kiss, was
in middle school and it was on the school bus
with this guy named Kareem mill. I just thought he
was everything. Was the first ever went to first Connor,
Oh Salt and Pepper, Pepper U And it was so
(43:26):
cool because my first concert tour that I was ever
on was with Salt and Pepper. Crazy right, yeah, Um, well,
when I was younger, and I think I can't remember
which album they it was on, but there it was
a lot of different artists on the tour, but they
were my favorite artists at the time, So I remember
them being on this concert that I went to when
I was young. And then when our group first got
(43:50):
our you know, first album out, we were on the
Salt and Pepper tour when they had Shoot and What
a Man the album. So it was so cool because
they were so nice and so, you know, my favorite
girl group of all time. For me to be on
tour with them was amazing. That's awesome. If last one,
if you want an oscar, who would be the first
(44:10):
person you think in your speech? My mom. She's always
been my biggest supporter. Kenny Burrs, thank you so much
for taking the time. Congratulations on the mass singer, but
literally congratulations on everything. Your resume is ridiculous, your story
is inspirational. If people want to find out more about you,
where should they go? Um, I would say you can
(44:32):
go to my website Candy online dot com, k A
N d I online dot com. But or just follow
me on social media? Uh, Instagram and Twitter? Is just
can't Kadia? You got you got just the first name? Yes,
isn't that good? And you said, honestly, I didn't have
it at for somebody else had my name and I
(44:54):
d M them. It was like, can you please give
me my name? Last thing? Is there anything that I
didn't ask you about or we didn't talk about that
you want to promote um? Right now? It's all about
the music for me. So if everybody could stream and
download and I mean yeah, stream and download my new
single used to Love Me, I would love you for life. Canny,
(45:15):
thank you so much again for being on the show.
You rock, Thanks for having me by Wow. That story
is crazy. Everything she touched turns to gold, note strike
that platinum. Not only is she super talented, like that's obvious.
She can sing, she can act, she can dance, but
also like the way her mind works, it's always like
(45:35):
how do I connect the dots to the next thing,
finds the need fills it makes money from the thing
that She was like, well we need that. Someone's gonna
make money off of it, might as well be me.
Her portfolio is so incredibly diverse it is bonkers. I
love talking to people like that because, like I said
in the interview, I'm now like I need to go
(45:56):
sit down and write some ideas out and figure out
how to put those into the world. Candy Burr's kicking
ascid taking name since back in the day. Alright, guys,
that was an awesome episode of The Wells Cast. At
stories like those, that makes me happy to do this show.
If you like the show, rate and review apt and
play stores, you know, not the whole thing trying to
raise the U the rating. And also if you like
(46:16):
the show, tell your friends about it, because you know,
we all want to build the Wells Cast audience even
bigger than it already is. Okay, I'm out subscribe to
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Our thing is. It's the Internet. Figure it out, idiot. Okay, Bye,
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