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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
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got a very special guest today with us. He's been
on the show before, but anytime he stops by, man,

(01:05):
it's just all love. He drops a bunch of gems.
We got a brother right now, Row Russell is in
the building. Let's go welcome. Yes, thanks for having We
got to get some claps. We gotta get that noise.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's been a few times coming here, so it's always
good to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's always good man. I want to I want to know, no,
thank you man for coming. Man. You know, it's always
it's always love when you stop by. But I want
to get right into it and I want to talk
about you know, we had a tragic loss not too
long ago with DJ Wright. Uh what what did DJ
Wright mean to you? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
DJ Wright was a distant relative of mine, and so
we had that that uncle in and nephew relationship. Uh,
it starts there. You know, someone that I, you know,
called my nephew and treated him like that. He's a
really good kid. He listened. He's a very a personable

(02:11):
guy and looked out for people. But he had a
lot of potential six seven, two thirty five and can
really shoot the ball, and his work ethic was was
really really high, and so you know, we went through
that journey to get him to that level because I
felt that he could go high.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Major D one and possibly to the NBA.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Absolutely, And for guys who don't know DJ Man I'm
talking about, he was so ahead of his time. Like
we're talking six' eight guy who can put the ball
on the, floor but strong enough if you needed him
to play the four and the, five like he was
the true, Guy like he can play all five positions
if you need it. To, yes, absolutely because he can

(02:56):
shoot the. Ball i'm talking one of the first big
guys That i've, seen like who can shoot the, ball
like really. Well, Right and my memories from him is
coming to fall staff and you, know every TIME i come,
by it's, Like, YO i got a new one here.
One i'm, like, oh, man i'd like, yo match up

(03:17):
match up with. Him And i'm, like, man this kid is.
Huge Like i'm talking, right and this guy's going at
me and he's posting me up And i'm, like, OKAY
i gotta get. ON i got to get on the, perimeter.
Man And i'm on the perimeter and he's staying with.
Me i'm, talking he's keeping. Up i'm, like, bro this
guy is the real. Deal he's the real. Deal you.
Know So yo a fantastic game if he was able

(03:41):
to you, know you, know stay, straight and he definitely
would have been in the. League, yes for.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Sure he reminded me of a lot of, You, iggy
and you played for, me you, know because he was
a six, seven six. Eighty can handle the, ball play the,
point the, two shoot the, three he could mid, post
he could play the, four face up and, spinning turning
up an, under or he could be a five and body,
guys and that's about the shots and. Rebounds so he

(04:07):
was all utility guy at a high. Level you, know
we we played au and he had a trip that
he averaged forty points for the for the tournament.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
As well as you did back In.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Michigan. Michigan h, yeah we're all, there SO i, Remember,
yeah it was with. US i remember Being Brian hamilton
on that.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah but, yeah he he could do it all and
he worked hard and he was passionate about the, game
and so he definitely had THE nba potential for. Sure and,
uh you know it's unfortunate that you, know things happened
and altercation happened that In montreal and he passed away

(04:54):
several months, ago.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
RIGHT i remember him him signed or. COMMITTE i don't
know if he signed or committed.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
To L he actually he actually signed he was actually
committed and signed to S, u but he didn't qualify.
It back then you had to have an S A
t score as well as.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
He had the core number and the. Average it was
harder to, go do you.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Know and he came within twenty points of, qualifying and
we actually sent in a waiver for him to be
qualified because he had a learning, disability and they still deny,
him you, Know so you, know then he had to
go to junior.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
College and we know what he.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Did he his first, year first, year his first year
as a, freshman he Led Salt Lake City Junior college
In utah to national championship and handley Beat. Chipola college
was just very high. Power some of their guys went
HIGH d one and maybe one or two guys went
to THE nba at one. Point and so he put

(05:52):
the team on his back and and and brought him
to the championship and WAS.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Mvp. Yeah definitely, Buckets, yeah he was.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Different he was. Definitely he's epitome of scoring all three. Levels. Yeah.
Yeah you can see the footage man online on YouTube
where he's just getting bucket after bucket and they couldn't
do nothing with. Him, yeah, right and it's not, easy,
Man Like i'm talking to Kid toronto, kid and then
go To, Utah, like go To. Utah he's a city,

(06:19):
kid and he goes To utah and handles his business
man kind of did WHAT a did BEFORE a J,
right let me go To utah.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Exactly something like.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
That but, unfortunately, uh you, know some different uh challenges
came with that in terms, of, uh he didn't like, school,
admit you, know he JUST i want to play. Pro
so if he, was if ote was, HERE i sent
him to and he wouldn't have to worry about that
and just train and play ball and he would get
to THE. Nba but you, know it was an academic

(06:52):
struggle for. Him and you, know and and and he
was very uh you, know very how DO i say very?
Gullible not, gullible but he's Very he's he was very
susceptible to, influences you, know because he was such a good.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Kid so he listened to that, guy listen to this,
guy do that go over?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
There, Uh and so that that also heard him in
terms of staying focused on the.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Path got You And i'm glad that you're. Here that
we can, speak you, know the positive things about, him. Right,
YES i know he passed away and that's, tragic you,
know condo to him and his, family, right BUT i
was glad that you're here so we can talk some positive.
THINGS Dj.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Man, Yeah, yeah that was. Important there's a lot of
a lot of. Positives there's a great. Teammate he was
a captain type. Guy positive. Captain he worked hard that
everybody everybody else had to work hard as, well and
practices and how he played.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
That everyone had to follow his lead because it's very,
contagious you know WHAT i. Mean he and he did
for the.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Team like sure he could score a bucket on, anyone
but if someone is open on a three or going back,
door he's gonna make that piece to make that past,
two you.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Know WHAT i.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Mean so he was a really good team player as,
well which is hard to do when you're so talented.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
For, sure and young. Too, okay rest in peace TO.
Dj we lost the real one out, there. Man SO
i want to move along to THE. Nba of, course
let's talk about we got we got The east and
we got The, west right And philadelphia seventy six ers

(08:35):
were just eliminated like there's no chance they. Can't you,
know there's no playing for. Them they're done right and
you got The sons on The west are fighting for
their life right. Now The sun's record is The sun's
record right now Is i'll tell you is thirty five
and thirty. Nine they are sitting under there in the

(08:56):
eleventh spot right now Under, Sacramento sacramento thirty six and thirty.
Eight so they're fighting for their life right. Now Under.
Phoenix you Got, portland you Got San, Antonio New, orleans
and you Got. UTAH i don't think we expected anything
from those three. Teams maybe San, antonio If webby doesn't get,
hurt he might have an opportunity to get into the play.
In but what what is your guys thoughts on which

(09:19):
team is more disappointing between The Phoenix suns And philadelphia
seventy six, Ers and why let's go with you. First.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Bro it's a weird deal because When Nick nurse was With,
toronto you, know he's a, genius, genius.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
And it brought us to the.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Championship and now In philly it's in disarray and there's
so much. Things it's like a dysfunctional family over. There
AND i don't think they could put a street together
like say they were going to make a run even
though they can't make. IT i don't think they're capable
of like winning three in a, row winning four in a, row.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Ring philadelphia Six.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Ers they can't do.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
That so it was, very very disappointed for a guy
that was just a few years, ago he was THE
mvp of the, league a guy Like Paul george, was you,
know top five small forwards in THE nba and so.
Forth so, it's, uh you, know, unfortunately it's a very
long downhill slide for, them and who knows a lot

(10:19):
of things are gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Offseason, well if you're if you're The, sixers so you're picking.
Sixers is more disappointed than the?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Sun?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes, yes, absolutely if you were The, sixers would you
blow it, up try to Get cooper Or Dylan, Harper Ace,
bailey just blow it all up and then trade M
beat you can you can get the house for M. Beat,
yes people are even though he's, hurt you can get
a lot for. Him Trade Paul. George you can still
get a lot for. Him, right would you would you

(10:45):
make that? Move?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
YES i would make if you Got cooper number. One,
YES i would definitely do. THAT i get some youth in,
there maybe keep one or two guys Like.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Tyrese and.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Unfortunately they need a different, leader different, voice a different,
concept different system the one that's. There, unfortunately even Though
nurse had a really good go, at it is just not.
Working SO i would definitely blow it all up and
start from, scratch you. Know and there's because nowadays there's some,

(11:19):
older more talented guys that could come in and actually
be impact rookies. Now so therefore they can be you, know,
talented just like The spurs were BEFORE mb went. OUT i,
Mean i'm Sorry wemby went out and stuff like. That
SO i would blow it.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Up well For, philly you, know the one leader that
they should have listened to WAS Ai Alan, iverson not
this artificial intelligence stuff that they actually build the roster.
AROUND i BELIEVE i remember hearing something along those lines
that they USED ai to kind of project certain things For.

(11:59):
Philly clearly that didn't. Work next time talk To Alan.
Iverson that was my corny joke for the. Day, yeah
the REAL. AI i would, Say philly's been blown, up
you know WHAT i, Mean they're gonna get they're gonna
probably get a top three draft. Pick, maybe you, KNOW i,
agree maybe they should get rid of uh embiid and

(12:20):
And george and start a new process bill build around
Uh Tyree. Tyreese you know WHAT i. Mean but to
answer your, Question, yeah. Sons sons are a bigger. Disappointment
they have way too many guns. Offense they have a
lot of offensive, firepower still not knowing to do what

(12:41):
boll baffles. Me they picked up a point guard in
Ty jones from the, beginning SO i thought that could
HAVE i thought a.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
LOT i. THOUGHT i THOUGHT i was gonna help out
a whole.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Lot LIKE i, Said, katie leave the weed, alone, man
because they're losing patients too, quickly you.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Know WHAT i?

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Mean like why you And budenhuser having these arguments in? Public,
BUDENHAUSER i mean it. Shouldn't that shouldn't, happen, MAN i, mean.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
He seems like he's a head case right, now moving
Like i'm telling, you leave the weed, alone, man you
know WHAT i. MEAN i know we got his. Girl
you see that shorty With rarding the other.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Day, man you know something about you, know we got
the rev, Here So i'm gonna keep That i'm gonna
keep IT. Pg, thirty you know WHAT i? Mean but
real top, Man, like there's something going on over there
In phoenix and they need to blow that. UP i
think Maybe devin. SHOULD i, mean the book is. In

(13:34):
he's in his prime right, now just coming off OF i,
think just coming off.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Of a gold. Medal you feel, me hit, Man, katie
and they still can't figure it.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Out they shake fire THEIR Gm, Jones jones gotta, go,
really he gotta, go. MAN i think what he did
compared to their championship, TEAM i mean Their western conferencechampionship,
team blowing that. Up they blowed it up to have
what they have now by getting rid Of paul and Getting.

(14:07):
Beal that was it just didn't make. Sense there's a
lot of moves that look good on paper that just
didn't make. Sense and clearly chemistry plays a huge. Part
and if you don't get the pieces, Together i'm, sorry
but it's not gonna. Work guys say the, saying the,
saying what do you call?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
It what do you call? Fantasy fantasy? Basketball, like you
know WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Mean where you could put your roster together as long
as the names look good and hope for the.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Best, well, well they they've been, Hurt, like if we're
gonna be, honest, like if they've been, HURT i.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Don't want to hear That raptor has been hurt and
you guys ship on The raptors twenty four. SEVEN i
ain't trying to hear none of. That, no, no, No
raptors are better than The. Suns The raptors got twenty seven. Wins,
bro they're better than The. Suns let's call The raptors
have twenty seven. Wins i'm just saying they're better than The.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Suns.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Though, Injuries, man, injuries, injury that's just basically basically off
what you're selling me with injuries, better.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
They're better than The. Sixers of. Course, Anyways i'm going
to go with The. SONS i agree The sun's. THEY
i don't know if the blowing it Up, Katie katie
can't be team hopping the way he's team hoppened man like.
Man he should have stayed with The warriors and forgot,
about like killed all the noise in his. Ear everybody's
hating on him, saying, oh he took the easy way.

(15:19):
Out he should have stayed and ran four, five ran
up four to, five like. Six, yeah because he. Hasn't he.
Hasn't he hasn't won anything ever. Since the last time
he was in a meaningful playoff game or a playoff
game period was or MEANINGFUL i should, say was back In,
brooklyn went game seven and it was him by himself

(15:40):
and he was going crazy on yours in the. Bucks,
right that was the last time it was. Meaningful there's
been no meaningful basketball ever. Since like he made it
to the playoffs with The suns and lost by, Thirty
Like edwards is talking crazy to, him like it looks.
Embarrassing right at this, point he is getting. Older BUT
i think What katie needs to do is he needs
to take a step, back take a step back a little,

(16:03):
bit take a step, back allow allow these young guys to.
Flourish so if he's gonna go to another team LIKE,
okayc like they're talking, about don't go TO okayc and
Say i'm the guy he's just gonna mess everything. Up
he gotta go and be, like, No i'm gonna play my.
Role i'm gonna play a role if they need a,
meeting you, know be a stretch four or three. Whatever

(16:25):
he has to play more of a role, now the.
Time these guys are getting too. Old they can't lead
the way they used. To katie wasn't a vocal. Leader
he's more Of i'll show. You but he can't do that.
Anymore he can't do it like get on my back
And i'm gonna take you WHERE i need to.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Go remember How carmelo went, Out you know WHAT i,
mean when he went to when he went To, houston
and they wanted him to be more of a, stretch a,
stretch a stretch player, more not not the mid range
assassin that he, is but just a lot of.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Threes but you know WHAT i. Mean mellow And katie's
style is.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Different they're they're, different but at the same time mentality,
wise they're guys the other, guys but proving.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Guy katie only needs twelve shots and he's gonna get.
Thirty mellow needs the ball in his, hands he needs
the rep he needs to. SHOOT i would Say melow's pretty.
Efficient we've never seen a guy like who gets twelve
shots and gets. Thirty, no he doesn't need the ball
in his hands, here he gets he's gonna get his shots,
off LIKE i hear. You But shane And kad Just

(17:26):
i'm just that's just one team That i'm thinking that, right,
Right but What i'm saying he needs to if he's
gonna do, that he needs to he needs to step
back a little bit and let these young guys do.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
It because, well there there's a speculation that he might
go to The.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
SPURS i, HEARD i heard, that AND i heard that
that kind of makes sense that he could play With
fox and THE cp running the. Show c retire is
that fake, news that's fake. New he's not ready, To
he's not like. That he still has some life left to, them,
right maybe his role might be.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Different he.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Don't they don't need him to score as much, Now so,
no just a point guard and That Darren fox be
like the combo that can bring the, ball play the
point but also. Score then you HAVE kd and then
Hopefully victor gets back in the, mix plus all the
other role players they, have so That spurs make.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Sense a little.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
BIT i agree with you though in terms of his
role needs to, change you know WHAT i mean the
same way that even even Though steph isn't ready, to you, know,
retire leave, whatever he took a step back WHEN kd
came to The, warriors and it helped to you, know
for them to you, know win a championship and almost win.
Another SO i feel that he does need to step

(18:36):
back a little. Bit AND i think that he's a
guy wherever he, is he'll always be remembered as one
of the all time greats for his size and his
position what he. Does but you, know, unfortunately you, know
father time is coming.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Around was six this year or thirty? Eight? Yeah. Damn,
anyways let us know in the comments where you THINK
kt should. Go, ALSO i want to ask you guys this.
Question who is the most or more disappointed? Team The
Phoenix sons Or philadelphia seventy six. Ers talk to us
in the. Commons let's talk About andrew named. Heart we

(19:11):
Love andrew Nem. Hart he's a hometown. Kid Point, God,
yes you, know shout out to his Dad, claude wonderful.
Man you, know his brother is doing wonderful things in. College,
GOD i think he had some assist record or. SOMETHING i. Believe,
Yeah So i'm talking incredible family all down the. Road he,

(19:31):
mentioned and he, STATED i don't know what podcasts he was.
On he needs to come sit down in this couch with,
us but he was he was mentioning that twenty twenty
Eight canada is going to. Medal BUT i didn't like
to me he should have been, like we're gonna win.
Gold what is your guys thoughts on what he? Said.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Rev, well as you, Know i've grown up with his Father,
clyde and you, know shout out To claude for being
the president of THE oba right.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Now it's great to have a brother at the helm
of the. Organization that's big time and a lot of
changes are. Coming and but in regards to him feeling
that they're gonna, MEDDLE i think they should have meddled
this past In. Paris and SO i think with added
inclusion of some legit bigs in terms Of zach and

(20:28):
maybe another that's out, there they could do. That Having
wiggins in there as, well and making sure all the
negotiations with the DIFFERENT nba teams and the guys. CONTRACTS
i think that there's a great opportunity to, meddle for,
sure but it's gonna be hard unless everyone has a
great event to win it. All it's gonna be you,

(20:49):
know unless because someone Like STEP's gonna hit twelve threes
in a row or someone like whoever is going to
just go out for, Fifty like there's always someone That
america has so much guys that in any given day
could just go.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Off you know What i'm, Saying it's. Done yeah he's.
Not he's not going to be there in three more.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Years but another step will step. Up another guy That Anthony.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Edwards Anthony, edwards he's kibble of scoring forty to, fifty
you know WHAT i, mean and putting the team on his.
Back SO i think in order for that to, happen
because anything's possible because we we one time beat every
team In america one and we're ranked number one In.
America SO i get. It you, know you gotta believe
in yourself and feel that you could overcome all the.

(21:33):
Odds but everyone is going to be have to be
on all, cylinders clicking all cylinders in order for that to.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Happen, YEAH i, agree we just got to be.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
CLICKING i like to See Shannon, SHARP i mean that's the.
NAME i like to see him on the roster as.
Well BUT i don't know who they'll have to take,
off but, YEAH i can see us.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Meddling for.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Sure we should have got at least a bronze. Medal Past. Olympics,
mind you guys are getting a little older. Too we're
not gonna stay, young, Right SO.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I, MEAN i mean guys like our.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
GUY i FEEL i think our guys will be just.
Fine AND i, think you, know a deciding factor Is Dylan.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Brooks you know WHAT i. Mean we got a bunch
of guards pays Well Dylan brooks. PLAY i hope so
all This Dylan brooks right, NOW i don't know how
old he. Is, boy he's either young, boy same, WAY
i don't think he's. Young he'll probably be thirty something years.
Old you think he's thirty something right now by the
time twenty twenty eight comes around.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
HERE i, Hope, YEAH i still he'll be still in
his prime right to be able to. Play he has
that competitive fire AND i think the.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Narrative the narrative started to cut you, off, right but
the narrative Of Dylan. Brooks he's a. Winner brook What
missage is going through right? Now and look and look At,
houston you know WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Mean, Winner he is a deciding piece for, that for
the success Of houston and the past success for For.
Memphis we could all say she's gonna probably get m V.
P this, year you know WHAT i. Mean so we're
gonna have M. Vp we're gonna have a bag of
wings and. Forwards With Edie, man we got him at

(23:06):
a minimum minimum.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Bronze so it was an interesting conversation With Keishawn. George
he mentioned that he wants to play For Team. CANADA
i believe his father Is. Canadian he was he was
born In. Switzerland but what was your thoughts Off hea
can Add Keishan george you think that would be and
he helped six seven six seven. Wings he's.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
TALENTED i remember seeing him At miami in college and
got to know him and then found out that his
father is From. Montreal and even though he was born
overseas when he was playing, pro he's talented and he's.
Young so in four years he'll still be young still
to be able to, play because a lot of guys

(23:48):
may not have the legs and the youth to.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Play so and he said he wants to.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Play, yeah, yeah to add all that, together Like woods
was saying in regards To Shadan, sharp who also played
for me, before there's a lot of you still left
that they can still be young when other teams have
their best guys now are going to be in their,
thirties their mid thirties and the whole. Nine so there's
a great opportunity to get A bronz or. Silver AND

(24:14):
i THINK i think they're that good Because i've always
said over the decades that the day that there's talk
about CERTAIN nba guys getting cut from the, team that's
when we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Met and that's where we. Are that's where we are right.
Now so many guys got in the. League we got
like twenty five something like. That it's up there.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Counting, yeah, man we're gonna be just. Fine WELL i
said that last last, time last go. Around didn't Think
eddie wasn't gonna, Play but.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
YEAH.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I think he. Will he's that kind of guy that
he will.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Play but obviously a lot of negotiations his rookie year
all that, stuff so a lot of political stuff that
we can wrap her head, around really, so but he's
not that kind of guy that's gonna say, No i'm
not gonna.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Play. Right why why do you Think canada didn't met last?

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Summer, yeah because they should have because they Beat france
in the first go round before it really. Counted SO
i think they're a little bit overconfident and they hurt.
Inside they need that big because now you, Know victor
really turned it on and the other big kid that
plays in that dunkt On lebron.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
To say sixers.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Now and so we had a hard time with their
size because now they got their taste of the games
and they.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Were rolling and you, know and they're ready to. Play
and our guards did.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well And i'm pretty sure That Jamal murray he has
that edge to want, to you, know perform at the
way he's used to performing in those.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
GAMES i think he'll do really.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Good but we just had no legitimate bigs to counter
the other country's.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Bigs, Gotcha, well we'll See man Eight. Olympics talk your ship,
Man Andrew. MAN i like that right. THERE i WISH
i just said we're going to get the. GOLD i
wish he would have stood on that. Business you, Know
I'm i'm just. Saying, anyways let's move on To Jamal.

(26:13):
Sheed So Jamal sheed was the forty fifth pick out Of,
houston coming out Of, houston tough nose defender And Calvin, samson,
man we got to give him some. Credit this guy
went over there and he like when Has houston been.
Relevant when's the last Time houston's been relevant since before
he got? There it was Since hakeem And, Drexler, right

(26:35):
that was the last. Time, Right so he's made them
into a, legitimate like you, know proper program where a
guy he's getting McDonald's All. Americans, now who DO i
Think percy's uh master? Piece soun signed with? Him you,
know he hasn't got any real, minutes but he. Was
he was a four star right coming out of high.

(26:55):
School AND i THINK i think they. SIGNED i think
THEY i think a five star committed to.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Them, uh, Well Jeris walker from From My, energy he
was a five star and uh he's moving around in
THE G league and stuff like THAT. Nba but, yeah
now they're they moved up to The big twelve and
now they're, very very high level contenders for the national
championship this. Year and a big shout out to Coach.

(27:23):
Samson you, know they kind of did him wrong In
indiana back in the, day just for one. Text and you,
KNOW i think that he'll definitely A hall.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Of famer for.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Sure he's a great, mind great, coach and guys love.
Him you, know he knows how to put it. DOWN
i don't know if you guys seen that game against
purdueas he just remembered That purdue likes to go and
and have the guy in the baseline leave to cover
whoever goes to the left and, right and then he

(27:54):
a guy just stepped in and he hit a quick
pass to when he. Scored that's how many people are
gonna do, that you know WHAT i. Mean that's, crazy
that's super. Brilliant that's Like Albert einstein's level of.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Brilliancy but they never talk About Calvin samson though as
the top coaches Right Rick, patino he's getting a lot
of love for coming, back, right you, know and he's
losing his best, players his best, player, crazy but they.
Don't they never talk About Calvin. SAMSON i think he's
At oklahoma at one point and then he started over
here and he's just been Building houston back up and

(28:28):
nobody's talking about. It but to talk About. Sheed do
you believe he should be on An All rookie team
forty fifth, pick, Guys.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
YEAH i don't think it doesn't matter what the number
you got, picked because if you're playing majority of the
year in THE nba and you start some lot of
games and you make an impact to help your team
and you prove it against it in real games against real,
teams real, players then if you're a, rookie you would

(29:00):
be recognized as. Such because he came from that Great
houston defensive mindset program and he's shown it in the
n B. A AND i definitely feel that he uh
deserves to be on An All rookie team or or
whatever it is defensively in terms of what he brings

(29:20):
to the, table you. Know and they felt that strong
about him that they even Traded mitchell away And mitchell
the previous defensive.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Gem.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah And mitchell is a lottery, too he, was he
was a lottery out Of. Baylor. Yeah BUT i see
she moving Like mitchell to a certain.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
DEGREE i, SEE i see a lot OF i see
a little bit Of fred Van vliet in in sheet as.
Well you, know the stat, saying, uh she is she
is forced in THE nba and assists off the.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Bench.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Wow you know What i'm, Saying, uh not among, rookies
but among the entire n B.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
A all, RIGHT i mean from a stat, standpoint he's
averaging let's just say seven seven to seven points two
rebounds for.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Sis you. KNOW i mean he's.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Getting you should have kept those. Starts let it be,
known should be, hey let's cut it off right, there
cut it.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
UP i Mean. BRONNIE i, mean you know we talk
About bronnie all the. Time you know WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Mean his, numbers even though his jersey numbers are crazy right,
now those jersey numbers are.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Unbelievable i'm, saying why even you knew you, were you're killing. Yourself, NO.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I just you just add per his per forty eight.
MINUTES i would be, like say eighteen talk to nine and,
five you could.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Talk, yeah come, On. YEAH i definitely think he should
make call one of The All rookie.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Teams, man he's producing this, year he's getting, opportunity you, know,
well hopefully can crack one.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Another he's a solid pickup for. Sure will he make
An All rookie? TEAM m that's a tough. One that's
a tough. One ten guys, man he can. Make he
can crack the top. Ten.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
MAN i think if they were winning more than he,
would it's gonna be. Tough but he's gonna be considered for.
Sure at least you'll have some, consideration Right and if
they they should have another category of honorable mention and
he will DEFINITELY i think that he was.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Winning they would have. Had BUT i think what is
The raptors defense. Ranked they're ranked, LIKE i mean since since, yeah,
YEAH i think number one something like. That they're up.
There so, anyways let's. Talk we're gonna talk some local. Stuff,
Man let's talk about So Grind. Session you, know we've

(31:57):
seen how big Time Grind session was and and we
had some good representation over there For. Canada we had
obviously fort. Eerie you, know we talked about it last.
Week they beat you, Know Utah Prep whites this, year,
right And i'm talking and it wasn't no luck like
they nominated, them, right and they have obviously been them
one player in the world right. Now but, then you,

(32:20):
know one thing we didn't talk about was the, girls,
Right Royal crown. Girls they win the whole thing AGAINST
dm e, right and we got to you, know shout,
out you, know Coach leanne like she's doing her. Thing
she don't get talked about enough as far as coaching In,
canada doing a phenomenal job and know how big time

(32:45):
this is like for you to win The Grind Session
champions of The world, Right what is your thoughts on?

Speaker 3 (32:51):
That, well, yeah people don't understand how big that. Was
you're basically saying that my team is the best girls
high school team in the. World, yea even against all
the Top american.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Teams you.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Know so the daughter has done a great job this
year and getting the chemistry, together working with those girls every,
day making them understand and now you really see that
what the coach's places in a team right and have,
them you, know will go through the trenches for you
to do what they have to do to overcome all
the odds against The american referees and the atmosphere and

(33:29):
all the different obstacles they have to come overcome in
terms of them versus the. World and big shouts out
To Patrick shaw And Chris exelists for the work they've.
Done But Coach, lee you, know she's done a great
job and she definitely deserves an opportunity to be, playing
to be Coaching division one or in the W nba

(33:51):
or whatever for. Sure so that's that's the. Plan that's
the next step for. Her and, uh you, know uh
shout out to, uh you, Know Chance barry The vine
And believe and all the girls that they got over
there that put that work.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
In, definitely for, sure it was good to See. CHANCE
i know she's been in and out of the roster
line up and all that good. Stuff but, yeah just
to piggyback off what you were saying for for the,
coaches there's so much work that they have to put
behind the scenes that nobody talks, about you know WHAT i,
mean for managing personalities, obviously making sure they're gaming at

(34:27):
a certain, level making sure their grades at a certain,
level and to take that with all that responsibility and
go over to The states and get the dub get
the chip in the grind session man man salute got
To this means this is so big For canada because
right even though Fort ey didn't, win like Beating proli

(34:49):
for preface, hard, yeah has their numbers Like Darren peterson
he's very.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Good at basketballball right, right and and you Got nico
on his team and like loaded over, there. Righted but
For eerie they you know they did Beat utah and
go to the, finals, right that means something like we've
been represented By canada like really well over, there like
like you, know what what does this say About canada?

(35:15):
Basketball like we got two teams in the, Finals Right, Ford,
Eerie Royal, Crown right one. Wins you know obviously you
know they. Lose but what does this mean For canada?
Basketball it's not saying a. Lot it's saying to, me
it says so.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Much And i'd like to get your your input on
this coach rap in regard to just the, gap the
talent gap between The states AND, US i feel like
it's closing very very, quickly you know WHAT i. Mean
there's still a little, gap but definitely.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Closed, yeah let me stop, Him let me stop. Him
but SO i was talking to a coach and he
was he was. MENTIONING i WON'T i won't say his,
name BUT i was talking to a coach and he was, like, man,
like there's so Many canadian teams now and they come
out to The states and they just be getting. Slapped he,
goes you, know why don't you guys put the very

(36:10):
best together and maybe have two or three teams and
come out and win some. Games are you talking about
a aa you prep all that? Stuff he was, like
he just, say he just stating like a lot Of canadian,
teams it's like they just come out here just to
come out. Here, right AND i know we mentioned it
and like the last time we can THAT i can

(36:31):
remember like Obviously canada's been, winning, right you, know but
we go out there and they Joined american programs and
stuff like that and they. Win right the last TIME i,
remember like when you were out In, vegas the team
In vegas and you and you won. That like that's
where it's bringing me back. TO i know this is
you know prep and obviously WAS, au but to win

(36:53):
such a big time event grind session is big time mellow.
Ball all those players came through the grind. Session they
all came through the grind, session, Right so MUCH nba
talent came through the grind. Session and to see you,
know Fort erie at the top and then to see
you Know royal at the, top it's just bring me
back when you were over there In vegas and you

(37:16):
guys won that team and that's when That Adidas vegas
was like that was the biggest tournament. Ever when that,
tournament you're. Solidified, Right so what is your thoughts with?
That do you Think canada should you, know shrink maybe
because there's so many you, LOOK i go, OUTSIDE i
see AN au. Team, man there's so many there's so many.
Preps what is your thoughts on all? That, Man, well

(37:38):
there's a lot of levels to this in terms of.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
That's a great opportunity to get together and form a
super team and go down to The states and and
win it. All but that that WON'T i don't want
to say, ever BUT i don't think it's gonna. HAPPEN
i think there'll be some, collaboration, like for, Instance i'm
doing that now Where i'm collaborating with a couple other

(38:04):
organizations FOR aau and now we're going on a stronger,
team the best of each organization's, players and we're going
into different circuits And adidas circuit AND i think there's.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Stuff like that will.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Happen BUT i don't think that every other every, team
because there's the problem is There's nike affiliated.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Teams There's adida affiliated, teams.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
And there's a Under, armoor now there's A, puma and
now there's new balance and those teams because of their
funding and trying to help the kids that are not
the top, players that won't happen like, that but it
will happen in some, degree right and they could still.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Win and you, know it was a game changer when
we had sort of a.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
What you talked about, before the top two or three
teams that were, there WHEN i you, know Had grassroots
and eight and nine and we would rank number one
in the country in one vega and of teams that were,
there and, uh you, know by the, WAY i just wanted, to,
uh you, know give glory To god for allowing us
to make that happen and giving me the fortitude to

(39:10):
lead that, team to make a name For canada and show,
that you, know we do have players that can go
to that level and pros just that we don't have
as much as they.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Do our very best are just as good as their very, best.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
And we've proven it in THE nba and college and
and now in high school as you saw in the grind.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
SESSION i think that will get better and.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Better the gap will close BECAUSE i think more people
are training earlier and going through the whole process OF
aau and and and prep schools and all that kind
of stuff is going to make it. Happen so it's
pretty good that that dynamic, then that dynamic is happening
where we're getting better and better to help these kids

(39:52):
get those opportunities to get in. There but, uh you,
KNOW i don't think that they'll ever have a super
team where all the best. Teams that's not that's not.
Realistic the same way you'd, say why doesn't THE us
do that and do that and whatever that doesn't make.
Sense you'll have some of, that which we are seeing some,
collaborations but not every top.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Team at the end of the, day everybody's still. Competing.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Man all the head guys that are running these preps
and THESE aau, teams there are once, hoopers there are
like maybe the offspring Of Coach rev.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
You know WHAT i, Mean and everybody wants to do
their own. Thing, Man that's just what we're living in right.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
Now so they answer your, question they're gonna bring their
teams to make a name for themselves in THE au.
Circuits they're gonna get, slaped some of them get, slapped
some are gonna. Win this is the world we're living
in right. Now you, Know i've seen collaborations WITH. A.
J dabasta And Tyrone stokes and they're cracking. Heads Right,
so BUT i do like THE u plays and you.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Know obviously the grassroots of, course and uh, uh you,
Know mike has his team out there you.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Got Canada, elite you Got Canada, league you got Obviously
arizona squad over, there.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
The Northern.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
Kings there's a, Lot, man there's a. Lot you got
Be Away, Genesis, man be and. Me there's there's so.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Much there's so. Much ALL i gotta throwing locked. In
there's a. Lot there's a lot going on over. Here,
man there's so.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Many AND i just feel that the, coaches the conveners
there are hoopers at one, point the majority of them at,
least they want to.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Compete they want to, compete so nobody really wants to.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
COLLABORATE i think the smart ones well that see, it
like the TPGs of the, world of, course and The
Durham gators of of of.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Course you know WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Mean there's a lot of, guys AND i think the
cooler heads will prevail and see the bigger pictures that you,
know we gotta we gotta. Collaborate let me get some
of my good, guys you get some of yours that's
made this, happen you know, So and they're Slowly.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
And also when you when you mentioned that the talent
levels is, GAINING i got to stop you right, there
and you Said canada and THE us is getting. CLOSER
i didn't.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
SAY i didn't say the gap is Like. Manescuo i'm
saying the gap was very very.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Big still there though still. There it's shortening a. Bit,
money it's still.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
There, yeah AND i think the reason why, it's, uh
it's still there in a way is because they have
ten times as much as much people that you.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Do.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
One so that's. One that's the main.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Thing but it is, overall if you look back at
twenty thirty years ago till, now the gap is, slowly
slowly getting.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Closer you see HOW i break things. Down, okay who
is who is our top? Player give give me the
two top players In canada right? Now prep in your opinion.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
The two top Players i'd say overall probably a fosa
and probably competitive, Wise Tristan, Blackwood Christan, Beckford tristan.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
He was, sorry he was the.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Patriarch and also maybe at a third uh the pitt.
Kid what's the name uh that plays in The.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Summit.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Phoenix, yeah as a jayn. Whatever those are the top
THREE i think in terms of. That, okay so you
got aj The banister and you Got Darren. Peterson how
do they how do our. Guys compare it to those, guys,
WELL i think that we're we're competitive. Enough, like for,
Instance tristan always takes that challenge of covering a j

(43:50):
in the grind session and he has twice and beat him.
Twice so even though he's not as, talented he's not
gonna get thirty, five but.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
He'll he'll get you, know, nineteen get your or nine
or ten or and then maybe three steals and a
couple of. Blocking, Afraid, Yeah i'm not afraid at.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
All he's not.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Afraid and uh And boost is very. Talented he's capable
if he had a better team around, him because he's
done it IN au and different circles where he's had
twenty five thirty.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Points.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Uh so he's Not Darren peterson in terms of making
shots and, stuff but he's six seven sixty six sixty
seven and he's talented like.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
That and and the fact that the athletic yea not a.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Skill but the fact That javion or whatever his Name
jayon That cavin pronounced his, name you, know my.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Bad.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Uh but the pit guy At Cia Bella, vista he
uh is playing in The Hoop, summit so that has
to count for something to be up, there you, Know
and and we have a we have a lot of
guys are GOING d one or you, know in terms
of high MAJOR d one and the whole. Nine SO
i think the gap is slowly but surely.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Closing for.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Sure i've seen that personally, happen you, know where there
was Only jamal mcglore Or Steve nash going to THE.
Nba and now look a much guys during THE. Nba,
now so, uh you, know for us to have a
chance of meddling in The, olympics and you, know even
though we got, fifth we're right, there you.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Know and.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
NOW i know that pit and so for SURE i wouldn't,
say you, know we're right, there but we're slowly closing the.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Gap, Okay so talking About division, one let's talk about
the transfer portal and the new rules that are. APPLYING
i know we talked about you, KNOW. Dj you know
obviously it was so difficult to get Into division one
back in the. Day now it's. Easier, uh the transfer. Portal,
UH i don't know how much kids are in the

(45:52):
portal right, now but there got to be thousands in
there right.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Now, yeah there's approximately two thousand in counting because there's
still guys playing The March madness that after the, season
they also may go into the portal and look to
transfer either up or down or, across and at times
have changed dramatically if you think about how hard it
was for guys to qualify with THE S A t

(46:16):
requirements and the academic requirements and the whole. Nine now even,
like for, instance guys are now GOING d one FROM U.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Sports, right which never.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Happened there's a couple, guys Remember Kevin schan did it
From HUMBER i Remember dragen did it From.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
York and a couple other.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Guys but they're tall guys that were worth a coach
bringing in and sitting. Out now even guards are. Going
multiple guys are transferring FROM U sports and starting and
having good careers IN d, one so it's a lot.
Easier and now they can go there and you don't
have to support them because they can support themselves WITH.
Nil now there's revenue sharing as well on top of,

(46:59):
it and a lot of opportunities for these guys to
be able.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
To transfer and play right away and not have to
sit out and those kinds of.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Things so it's a good time for. Players once they
get in. Now the challenge is getting in because now
it's harder for the high school and prep kids to
get a scholarship now because coaches are now more focused
from Say february To, july they're more focused on. Transfers

(47:31):
so that window From July august To November december is
when the high school players it's their time to. Shine
now they have to put that work in for the
coaches to come see them and like them and offer
them because they get put in the back, burner LIKE i,
said in From february To. July so you, know you

(47:54):
gotta be, strategic you gotta plan it, out you got
i use your, resources and there's work extra hard so
it could be done because as you, see, guys you're
getting scholarship. Stills if you're four, star five, star you're
getting in a. Few some of the partial up the
three star guys are getting, in but the other three
stars are two, stars they're hitting, gems they're not getting.

(48:15):
In they may have to go TO juco and then
go from. There they might have to GO d two
and then GO d, one or they'll go TO U
SPORTS O DOUBLE a AND U sports where have yet
to see other Than Kevin shan who did it way
back when he played for. Me the next step is
FOR O C a to HAVE O c DOUBLE, a

(48:36):
to have a guy from college GOAL d.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
One so that could. Happen oh, Yeah Frank mitchell did. It,
well yeah he did. It yeah, yeah so, yeah so it's.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
It's, rare it's.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Rare it's From, yeah but rubbers the spot one that's
a LEGITIMATE juco opportunity there At. Humber shout out To
Omar miles the championship and also shout out To Darryl
grand Coach daryl Gran uh winning the A u s
H U Sports championship and going to.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Nationals those are so there's great. Coaches that's as, alumni Right, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
So, okay we had we Had Dennim. Brown shout out
To Denim. Brown he was on the show quite some
a few years ago, actually and he Mentioned i'll never
forget this when he was he was talking about transferring
and he just, said you, KNOW i can't remember exactly
where he, said but he was kind of saying, like you, know,
what what what DO i look? Like? Transferring? Like BECAUSE
i asked, him was that ever a? Thought? Right you

(49:38):
got all those guys who came, in, LIKE i don't
know a guy who played with MORE nba guys on
her on a college made, it scoring over one thousand
in his, career, championship having a couple of big, drafted
he's still getting drafted the second. Round like to, me,
like he dugged it out, right and you, know we asked,

(49:58):
him you know what he he ever, like did you
ever think about? Transferring and it was like. Never the
portal is here AND i see some, kids, man you, know,
example the kid From Saint, john's he ends up getting
benched in some late seconds of the game and they
probably should win that, game. Right i'm not saying that

(50:19):
was the exact reason why they, lost but you, know
according to some, people they feel that. Way and now
the kid is entering the. Draft he was the biggest
player of the, year their best player average eighteen in the.
GAME i forget his, Name lewis R. J. Lewis and
now he's he's, Like i'm gonna go test the waters
in the, draft But i'm going to the. Portal do
you think this portal thing has become an issue because

(50:41):
now we're seeing guys going to deep like four different
schools and.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
The four for, four and there's there's been.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Some guys are five for five based on the, code
the super senior year and the extra year and all
these different.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Things and and and you, know some of Our canadians
man like, man they are in that, portal like they
are in that. Portal i'm mixed.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
With it BECAUSE i, understand your coach gets fired it
just wasn't a fit or whatever the case may, be
rather than you could thug it. Out but if there's
an opportunity to go into portal and go to somewhere
else where you, trust that looks more open for you
there than a coach that's, stable a different, style you,

(51:30):
know you, know just the same way that you see
all these coaches are now getting up and.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Leaving coaches are getting jobbed During march, madness.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yes and have to leave right.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Away so, therefore why shouldn't the players get that luxury as.
Well SO i think that overall it's good for the
players to get paid for their services and their time
and their, efforts as well as being able to transfer
and play right away and look at another. OPPORTUNITY i
think that If, dnham If jennam was in the, portal

(52:01):
if the portal was going on When denham, played he
would have you would have, Transferred, yes he would have
transferred because, yes, YES i put a stamp on that
because if you the reason why he didn't is sure
he wants to look like he's gonna thug it out
and stick it out as.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Well but the.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Major, reason now you got set. Out you have to
sit out to set out.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Right if you don't have to set, out you have
an opportunity to go at the same high level because
he would have got the same level of schools to go.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
To and you know he definitely. Leave and now'll add
AN I l to.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
That if he has an.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Opportunity to transfer and play right, away let's get AN
I l.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Get half a. Mill what is your thoughts with this
whole transfer?

Speaker 5 (52:48):
PORTAL i have that it's getting out of hand in my,
eyes what are we teaching the youngins in regards to
when adversity, hits you run or you deal with.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
It but you have, NILS i get. It you know
WHAT i. Mean there's.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
Dollars, now there's a lot of dollars at. Hand there's
your coach getting. Fired back in the, day your coach gets,
fired your you're, stuck you know WHAT i, mean you
can't transfer without sitting.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Out, now you, know if your coach, leaves you can
leave too and still get a chance to.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
PLAY i get, It BUT i still have that old
school mentality teacher kids to be tough, minded, like you
know WHAT i, Mean finish what you.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Started that's just that's just my stance on. It you,
know finish what you. Started BUT i. UNDERSTAND i think
they should put a cap on. IT i think you
should be able to do at least. Once after that
you got to sit out because because now like four for,
four the same when these.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Man come on they did a couple of years. Ago
have a cap on it where you only can transfer.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Once, yeah but then different players were suing THE nt
DOUBLE a over those, things the same way that one
player sue THE nt DOUBLE a for not being around
for the.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
You, know the transfer portal and THE nil and he.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Was able to get an extra year because he Played
juco two years and then he didn't get an opportunity
to GET nil And juco and this and. That so
now players get an extra year to. Play SO i
think that you, know it's it's, changing it's changing for the. Good,
overall but there should be a cap for. Sure now
they put a cap on it where the transfer portal

(54:26):
only it Starts march twenty fourth and it goes until
end Of may and The.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
APRIL i should.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Say so therefore they've closed the, gap because before it's,
open but now they closed the. Gap SO i think
if they made further restrictions to, it then it will be.
Good where it's good for the. Coaches it's good for
the players because players love it because NOW i don't have,
coaches don't have the babysit. Kids they know exactly what it,
is they've been, through they know how to, play and you,

(54:52):
know it helps the. Coaches but on the other, hand
it doesn't help the coaches because now your best player
might leave if you say the wrong word to, him
or the money is out there more than what you
can give.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Them especially for Those cinderella because now they're saying that
this portal has messed up The. Cinderellas we haven't seen
any upsets this year in the.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Tournament have we no a couple in the first?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Rounds in the first, ROUND i think that we have
the new knock Off.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Kentucky, yeah, Yeah but in The elite.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Eight every Single elite eight team is like one versus,
two one versus, two other Than Texas, tech which is
one versus.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Three, Right so you know WHAT i.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Mean because now those top teams that would only get
freshman's Like kentucky and those, guys you're getting those older
guys to mix in with the Five stars and all
one and.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
DONE i like The Cinderella, YES i, MEAN i think
that's what Made march. Madness march mad still saw some
right because you still started at the. Beginning there was
the first round.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Round there was a few of.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Them you'll get that in the first.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Round, yeah Maybe sweet, sixty But elite eight and, on
it's going to be, well.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Now the best.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Teams you want to see the best of THE i
do want to see the best, teams BUT i do
like The cinderella. STORY i want to see different champions.
WIN i don't always want To i'm just saying, anyways
that's my stance on the on the, PORTAL i think
they need to do a Cap but, uh let's move.

(56:18):
On let's talk About STEVEN. A smith real quick before
we get out of. Here H STEPHEN. A smith And
Lebron James part two. Right Lebron james was on the McAfee.
Show what's his first, Name pete McAfee Or pat. Mcmackfe
he was on that. Show and he's a top dog AT. Espn,
him him And STEPHEN. A smith at the Well STEVEN A.

(56:39):
Smith they have don't hear?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
That you can't say that to?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Him there was some not he went on The pat McAfee,
show and there was some certain things that he notable
things THAT i think that he mentioned on that. Show
and one was the whole him And, jordan why he
doesn't have a relationship With Jordan's and he, mentioned you
know me And i'm still, PLAYING i wear his. NUMBER
i were his number because you, know because of, him,

(57:03):
Right and that's the reason Why lebron And jordan doesn't
have a relationship because he's still. PLAYING i got to
debunk that because When kobe was still, playing he had
a relationship With. Jordan's but what is your thoughts of
him saying? That? Why like?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Why, like, well, Obviously, lebron he can't do no wrong
and he's, gonna you, know have his take that you
know looks good for. Him but you are right in
the fact That jordan had a relationship With lebron AND
i mean sorry With kobe and, uh you, know it's
just that you can see That jordan is more old

(57:38):
school as as A lebron is more news school and
just the way they do things and and to operate
it does it's just not his kind of. Guy he respects,
him but he's not a guy who's gonna go out
and have dinner with and and talk to and and
those kind of.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
THINGS i don't know what is what? Is what? IS i,
mean what Does?

Speaker 5 (57:59):
Lebron lebron knows deep down him and mj will never be.
Cool like you don't Remember miami Versus. Charlotte there was
one Time lebron had a breakaway and looked directly At
jordan on the bench and he was sitting at the
end of the bench and he dunked.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
That he looked at him and then dunked. It that's
the ultimate sign of, like, yo, bro this is this
is my league, now. Bro LIKE i think the.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
Narrative of everybody Wanting jordan And lebron to be, cool
not like. That lebron is like the leader of this
new school that just shits on the. Elders that's what
he was. Talking he, Was that's where we're at right. Now,
man that's where we're at right, now and there's no
more sugarcoating. It i'm glad AND i think he's doing
this cause the other podcast coming, out like this side

(58:45):
of lebron that we're, seeing you, know going on The
pat mccaffee, show you know ON, espn not going On First,
take you, know getting his son in the, league flipping you,
know even Though Bronnie, james LIKE i said, earlier his
jersey's probably one of the hardest selling jerseys. Out you
feel me like he's doing it his, way, man he

(59:06):
HAS i JUST i just recognized that he has his
own podcast, network which thing has a little deal in
that he has dealings With Draymond, green and he helped
put On Shannon fry and and And.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Jefferson like he's doing in his own way the way they,
speak you know WHAT i. Mean But i'm just, saying
like he's doing it his own. Way we can't and
some of them are signed a clutch. Too let's not
get IT. Twt you feel me the way this guy
is doing it right, Now he's creating his whole narrative of,
himself the way he wants it to be. Created, man
what do we what do? We what are we really talking?
About you know WHAT i? MEAN i feel Like STEPHEN.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
A i Remember STEVEN a was talking about journalism integrity
and saying there's a difference between real journalists and. Podcasters
what he did was totally, wrong you know WHAT i,
mean some of the stuff that he, said and then
he had to backtrack and apologize For. Bro you're just
as bad as his. Podcasters, man you know WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
WANT i want to. SAY i believe what you're. SAYING
i agree with you on the fact That lebron is
Not he's not one of those guys That jordan sees
like he didn't do it the way HE i Believe
jordan looks at him like you just didn't do it
the right. Way you always handpicked all your, teams stacked
all your. Roster look at him now he's playing With,
Luca like how much guys do you have to play? With,

(01:00:22):
right and still ain't got as enough championships as As. Jordan.
Right SO i Think jordan just doesn't look at him
like you got your son in the, League like you're
trying to tell Me jordan couldn't have got his last
son that played pretty well At South. FLORIDA i think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
He could have got him in the same way if
you wanted. To he had a better college. Career always,
see that's why you always see M. J you, know
he looks at the you, know the iPad and he's,
laughing you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Right. There you, know he just didn't do it the same,
way and it just seems manufactured with Le, bron, right
and he. Doesn't he doesn't have that relationship Because. Kobe
he had the relationship With, kobe Because kobe was one
of those guys stuck it out with The lakers one, organically.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Even When kobe was young, team even When Kobe kobe was.
Younger he used to CALL. Mj you used to see
WHEN mg And kobe are playing in game or even
at The All Star, game Like kobe's, like, yo you did,
this like, questioningly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
He was one of those. Guys he's one of those.
Guys and he Didn't and, Again kobe Wasn't. Lebron james
likes to disrespect a lot of the guys in the. Past.
Right this was another thing on the podcast where he
mentioned he, said, Well Giannis will scored two hundred and fifty.
Points if he was playing in the, seventies And giannis was,
like great, Compliment BUT i would be doing the same

(01:01:46):
thing that those guys were. Doing THEN i would have
the same, nutrition the same Whatever i'd be. Taking you,
KNOW i wouldn't be taking private. CHATS i would be
playing The Chuck taylor's, like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Right, so for, instance as you could, know if that
was the case Of lebron came out in the, seventies
he would go to, College, yes set out the first, year,
yes Like Pistol pete, did and played for four three
years after that in, college and then get, drafted and
then because of his, size.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
He'd be playing the. Four he will be able to
do what he. Wants so he wouldn't have the same.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Career so it's very not intelligent for him to say,
that and very very VERY i want to put a
lot of varies on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
It disrespectful because.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Now you're counting out all the players that came from
nineteen eighty all the way to nineteen o two that
played and were in The hall Of famers that changed the,
game The World chamberlains of The.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
WORLD.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Wi, yeah all those.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Guys now you're saying you're discounting all, them there's no
way in the history That giannis is scoring two point
fifty On Wilt. Chamberlain chamberlain may have fifteen blocks that
game against he would have a pinship with. Double you,
know if someone's a young ripper snappers trying to step
up again seven SAY i can play at the year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Level and get two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Fifty so and another, thing it wasn't good that he said.
That another thing you mentioned, like now we Put shack
in twenty twenty, Five shack might be he might be
stepping off shooting. Threes, yeah he might be pulling you
know he remember he did have the little handle where
he's pushing full. Court you, know imagine not in transition right,
now you, know going all the way different, again things are.

(01:03:24):
DIFFERENT i thought THAT i felt that right, there. REV
i felt that he had actually smile held it. Down
he held it down for The, pioneers.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Definitely but not not just subjectively, objectively because you, know
it's easy to, say, yeah look at those, guys their
plumbers and they're this and that. That that's what they
had to work, with that's what how they had to,
Play that's what their coaches told him to. Do that's
the resources they, had that's the technology they had or didn't.

(01:03:55):
Have you, know that's how it, was and so if they,
lived if you, so for, INSTANCE i would say that
the guys that, say Put Larry bird in this generation
right now and he doesn't get a back. Injury remember
when you tore your nine will score fifty thousand points,
easily easily easily if he was in this, world in

(01:04:15):
this era right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Now that's WHY i try To that's WHAT i try
to tell my young. Boys, Yo Larry bird better Than. Lebron.
Sorry remember remember even even like everything was totally, different
you tore Your, Achilles you're done k Tours achilles and
look like he got. Better, Right so things are totally
different all the way around the. Board, Man SO i
don't just hole back and forth between you, Know lebron

(01:04:37):
and and And STEPHEN A man is just, Hilarious BUT i.
Don't people are Saying STEPHEN. A smith is sounding. Stupid
BUT i Think, lebron you're making yourself look. Bad why
you normally take the high. Road why aren't you taking
the high road? Now, yeah, exactly the high. Road if you,
feel if you, feel if you're bothered by What STEPHEN.
A smith said about your parenting or are you upset

(01:04:59):
about what he said about your? Son? Right it is
what it. Is, Man you've never said anything like we're
talking About Skip bayles set was talking about you for
twenty five. Years you never said not one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Thing, Absolutely, yeah AND i think it was orchestrated for
him to actually do that on national television and that
yeah kind of scope because that's the first time ever
someone confronted a journalist about that about the issues about
either it could be your, son could, be you could,
be your, parenting whatever it. Is but you could easily
pick up the, phone you could easily see them in the. Day,

(01:05:33):
yeah but now you confront him right, there so you
know there's orchestrated and now you you wanted to be
make yourself relevant and you now it kind of in
a way hurts his legacy or whatever because now it's
just it makes him look, like you, know a complaining.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Soft, father au father whatever it is that he didn't need.
To he didn't need.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
To and, yah he already, said you, KNOW i don't,
flop which is just absolutely come. H, yeah that's a
bull face said AND i don't get the. WHISTLE i
barely get the, whistle. Brother The lakers are always shooting
the most free. Throws every time you watch the, game
they shoot more free thows than their team than the. Team, Right,
so and then say you don't, Flop, adam we need

(01:06:19):
you to come with the illisb bro for this all the, Flops,
like come, On, lebron don't. Flop that's just a bullfaced.

(01:06:42):
Lie SO i. DIDN'T i didn't understand the point of,
That AND i think he should. Have why did you
go To pat McAfee should have went to somewhere, Else
go on someone else's podcast and do, it or do
it on your.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Own he has the narrative there because obviously there's some
into workings.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
There he did it because he knows him and A
smith don't exactly rock with each.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Other so and not, that not To, Negate lebron is
one of the best, ever but that kind of tarnishes
his name a little bit by doing all the little
things he's, doing which is not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Necessary you don't need to do you need to do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
That have you ever Heard jordan talk About i'm the,
Best i'm the goat, now like he just whatever you
guys want to, do talk about. It will always shout
out Doctor. Jason, yeah but he Never he's never out,
there like he doesn't talk about this debate because he
doesn't need.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
To you doesn't need.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
To the gms and the executives and the, coaches the,
players they'll say.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
It they have been saying that he's the. Goal you
don't need to say.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yourself AND i think it Makes lebron look when he
does when he talks like. This. Absolutely, anyways, man this
was good, man good. Content that's ALL i. Have we
want to shout Out rev Hold. ON i know you're
doing this thing at you know WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Mean you did your thing At, crestwood you know WHAT i.
Mean now your new. Project you, KNOW i was, like,
yo how are they going to? Start first of, all
you chann to just a factory. Building it look, like
you know WHAT i, mean there's nothing in. There you
guys put a gym in. There you actually put an
act space in, there got players in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
There, now you know WHAT i. Mean you want to
talk real quick about the evolution Of chenna and where
you see it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Going, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Definitely, well first of, all you, know OBVIOUSLY i have
to give you, know shout outs to the greatest Ever Jesus,
christ My Lord's, savior forgiving me an opportunity to still
be doing this thing. After you, Know i'm in my
fifties now And i'm still at, it strong and healthy and.
Vibrant and you, know we put some really good work

(01:08:30):
At crestwood to build it up to where it's self
sustaining and and and and the guys are still doing
their thing over. There but just felt there's time to
move on and and and take on another. Challenge and,
uh you, KNOW i hooked up with some people AT U.
Chenna shout outs again to H dave And claudia for
the great work that they're doing over there and the
rest of the staff over.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
There and it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Great opportunity because it's a it's a it's a big
piece of mold of clay that you can mold into
a really good. Program and so it's only basketball is
the only sport. There but it's an, academic a private
school academics. There so it's very hard. Academics it's a
private school, education and you have a lot more time

(01:09:14):
to work on your game and get better and also.
Travel you, know we're in THE OspA and now we're
in this t Cal Texas league as. Well we travel
to The states a. Lot coaches are coming, Up big
things are. Happening it's a great. Building if you've ever
been to the school and been in the big gym,
Movies luca has been there for crying out, loud you, know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Photo, shoots, commercials you, know celebrity.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
GAMES a lot of things are going, on and you,
know it's a great opportunity, to you, know to specify
and specialize what you're doing in terms of getting you
prepared academically and getting you paired basketball wise and getting
that exposure you. Need so big things are coming, there
AND i think that in the year Three i'm gonna
make a big.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Move into here three in terms of what we're. Doing so, yeah, alright.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
Look out you channing many. Sir all, right, well just
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