Michael Jordan vs LeBron & The New Face of the NBA 👀

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But let's get into it first. We got to talk
about the Hip Hop Hoops Invitational Basketball Camp that is
happening March tenth to the fourteenth at West View. Yes,
it's gonna be from nine a m. To four p m.
The floor is yours, man.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I mean, it's a great opportunity for our young people
to learn some basketball skills, you know what I mean,
skills and drills and just learn the game, you know
from some from some of the greats. You know, he's
gonna make his his his debut at West VIU as
one of the trainers.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think that's going to be extraordinary and dope to
see and be a part of. We also have the
non basketball aspect of it, you know, in regards to
mentorship study hall. We got a few guest speakers coming through.
Shout out Neighborhoods Without Borders, nwbcare on Instagram. They're gonna

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be partnering up with us, helping us out as well. Yo,
March break, it's gonna be on and popping, man, it's
gonna it's gonna information. Hit us up on the DMS
to register. Spots are filling up quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know it's a free camp MS three ninety nine.
They don't get any better than that.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
B you know what I mean? Yep, yep. And the
ages are from fourteen to eighteen yees, so make sure
of that. And we got we got the girls too.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So yeah, man, guys, girls, you know, anybody that supports us,
We're here to support you.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yes. So this is our first camp that we're gonna have.
I'm excited. I'm excited. Can't definitely March break. Let's get it.
We're gonna start off with We're gonna start with Lebron,
Yes and mj so uh. Lebron's been playing out of
his mind lately. He just had his second forty point
game last weekend Sportland. And the question I have for

(03:01):
everybody is who is better at the age of forty
Lebron James or Michael Jordan. Talk to us.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Michael Jordan all day every day. Man, skill work is
just better. I feel like Lebron longevity, he's the goat.
I'll give you that for his age. And we heard
about it from the million dollars he puts into his
body religiously. You're seeing it at this age because I
just finished playing a teachers versus student game, you know

(03:29):
what I mean, on Friday, and I'm still sore.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
You feel me. I was cooking. I was cooking.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was cooking, baby, I was cooking. But you know,
shout out to Lebron, the longevity piece, that's all you.
But I don't think you're nowhere near MJ. You're more
of a magic two point zero. I'm tired of everybody
comparing the two You probably Lebron's not a killer.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's just a fact he's not.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
You see little glimpses of it when he played against
Detroit back in the day, when he played against Boston
before he left for the for the heat'll, you'll see
glimpses of him killing man's scoring wise. But he's more
of a magic Scottie Pippin type brother. That's all I
got to say, you know what I mean. But at forty,
no MJ.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
All day man. But here's here's Lebron's stats at forty.
Right now, with the season, he's averaging twenty four point seven,
which pretty much twenty five seven point seven, rebounds, eight
point eight, So he's almost averaging a triple double shooting
fifty one percent pretty much, fifty two percent from the field.
That's what he's averaging right now at forty. And then

(04:33):
you got MJ. At forty, his stats was twenty. He
averaged twenty points a game, six rebounds for assists, two steals,
and he shot fifty percent for the.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
They both start fifty percent from the field. Aroun a
little higher Lebron's what fifty two? Okay, but they both
shooting fifty percent from the field is fabulous.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Oh amazing? Yeah, right, So I think Lebron plays a
little different then MJ. Lebron James was still like crash
out running the floor head down, he's dunking, where MJ
was kind of like half course setting more of a
jump shooter than the attack. Goal is don't sleep. He
did pin Ron Mercer. Oh he did. Come on, you

(05:17):
know what I mean? Oh, listen, MJ had some great
freaking listen. It's impressive. He played all eighty two games
at forty, Does that right? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
So I just wanted to throw that out there, and
he was he was the owner of who was part owner.
He had a percentage of ownership with the Wizards. People
weren't coming to the games, so he's like, you know what,
let me just lay them back up, you know what
I mean. So his diet was totally off compared to
Lebron at this age and he's still putting with.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And at forty. I forgot to say this. You know,
he did play all eighty two games, but he also
has sixteen MVP votes that year looking at MJ, So
come on, I'm just saying the question is who do
you guys think it's better at the age of forty,
Lebron James or Michael Jordan talked to us in the commons.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
And you know at that age, MJ didn't sit out
no All Star games.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, you know what I mean? Well, talking about All
Star segue right there, Lebron James sat out the All
Star Game. Uh he said to due to ankle soreness
is the reason why he sat out. Uh what is
what is your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I thought that was a selfish move, that would be
man like, come on, man, Lebron, you're better than this.
You damn well knew you were hurt from when you
got to San France. You know what I mean, We
all knew, we all seen what Joannis did so much.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
He got he got into his uniform even though his
spot was taken and he gave the spot where he
didn't the spot, but the NBA gave the spot to
Tray Young. He still showed up in his uniform and
just let.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Silver know in advance, Bro, we would have had Norman Powell.
We would have had some bonus. Somebody hopefully would have
been Norman Powell.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
But you know what I mean, Like Norman Powe's in
a career high right now. I believe at twenty four.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
We deserve He didn't explain nor they don't need to
be no shootout should have been in the All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
He's having a fabulous season. Yes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
But long story short, I thought of the selfish move.
Lebron just seemed off, like, you know, he's he's such
a business man, he's about his business man. I get
it him in the Jay Z comparison, but Bro, like
there was something off, like behind the scenes, some dollars
were messed up because you're he was standing on business

(07:26):
to the point where he's taking pictures while all his
other teammates are in their uniform and he's in dress clothes.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, what kind of disrespecting this is? This is the NBA.
It was an awkward picture for sure. Not in street clothes.
Usually get a uniform if your I've never seen a
picture like that where.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You are the Lebron fans, the diehards are gonna come
put excuses out the yin Yang to support Lebron. But
what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. You
got the four major sports right now, right, two of
them right now are smelling blood in the water. When
it comes to the NBA product, the NFL busts them.
I never seen an NFL game, NFL anything at Christmas

(08:09):
time because Christmas time is usually NBA.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
What did they do?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
They smell blood in the water. They had a game
and put on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Two or three? My bad, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
They're smelling, yes, right, they're smelling the blood and they're
smelling the blood in the water.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And then what did the NHL do? I mean, yeah,
the NHL came up the four nation game.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Apparently they can't play in the Olympics, so they kind
of made a mini Olympics for the NHL All Star weekend,
which Canada end up being USA. Sorry Trump, you know
what I mean. I'm just I'm just saying, like, you
know what, And that's been the talk for the last
seventy two hours to the point where PK su band
you know what I mean, shadow shadowed his dad, who's
the principal right now, you know what I mean, doing

(08:51):
a big but he was.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
On first take, since one is PK on first take? Ever,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So I'm saying, like the NFL really slap the NBA
in the face with competing with the All Star weekend.
So therefore I guess the NHL had a better weekend
all Star wise than the NBA. Buddy, the blood is
in the water. And Lebron sitting out of game, I think.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I think with you gotta know your ankles, Ben Store
from a couple of days ago. So like if you
sit out, it doesn't, it doesn't take away your All
Star when you know you're still an All Star, like it
doesn't if you sit out there, they don't say, okay,
well in twenty twenty five you were in an All Star.
You're still All Star.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
You know these people that schools that have their their debates.
They need that that stat that you.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Just know the numbers. Still, they're still going to be there. Still,
this will still count as the twenty second All Star.
It doesn't matter regardless what I mean, he could have
gave it to Norman Power, someone who didn't who has
never been an All Star and actually deserved to be
in the game. Anyway. I think it was a selfish
move on his behalf. But hey, man, I know MJ
wouldn't have done that. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
MJ wouldn't have done that. Kobe wouldn't have done that.
I like to bring it back to one nineteen ninety three,
that All Star game when.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
It went to overtime is one of the best.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
MJ was in there doing this thing, leading Barkley, flipping ewing,
all those guys doing their damn thing, competing playing with
passion two thousand and one, ai on ma Berry, you
know what I mean, team versus a Kobe Duncan shack,

(10:37):
you know what I mean, Like David Orth, Goli steinform
crazy man them played with passion, you know what I mean,
led by Kobe, who was one of the faces or
if not the face at the time. You feel me Lebron.
To me, you're dropping the ball in regards to You're
more about your business, the business of basketball. You set up,
you set up your guys, Clutch sports, all that monsters

(11:00):
monsters in the industry. But let's not forget about the
product itself. Man, you guys are good.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
What about the future. What about the future kids coming up?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Man, they're not gonna see the dollars at this rate, bro,
because TV ratings are down. The superstars, they're not doing
what the superstars are supposed to do. And Silver it's
too busy in my eyes, trying to give you guys
your flowers. When I say you guys, the greats KDS
Lebron's the stuffs cool, you know what I mean? Seeing
that Netflix that Netflix special about the Road to the

(11:32):
Gold and all that, it's all about you guys. And
now you ether not giving the young faces or the
new faces of the NBA chance to shine.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And the All Star Game, that's when they shine. That's
when you're supposed to shine. And that never got a
chance to happen.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
You guys. Rob this to that shit. Because I heard
a lot of people complaining, like, oh, like Draymond was
complaining saying that these new guys shouldn't have they shouldn't
be playing on Sunday. Well, if you guys did what
you're supposed to do, then they wouldn't have to keep
changing the format trying to make it competitive. If you
guys do what you guys are supposed to do, this
ship would never happen and these young folks wouldn't be
playing on Sunday. PK called that out. Yes, PK actually

(12:07):
said he uh, this is a quote or you know
this is this is his words. He goes, I want
Michael Jordan, I want Kobe. That's what I want in
every sport. If you're different, if you're a different version
than that, you don't get my respect. Call that. That's
a shot at Lebron right there. Well, Lebron James is
in the picture. He said. It's his photo and Lebron's

(12:29):
photos there you see, so Lebron's in the photo.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Saw Yeah, So it comes that and I guess that's
what channing for I was alluding to. But at the
end of the at the end of the day, Bro,
when you are the faith of any league, bro, it
comes it comes.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
With this responsibility. Guys are following your lead o come,
bunch of the young boys.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Now through other All Star games that I've seen that
Lebron has been the man or the face of the
NBA and these games end up turning into just you shoot,
I shoot, Oh go do this reverse?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Was the Toronto? How was the Toronto game? That was?
Was that competitive? It was competitive? That's the last one
that I can remember.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
It was the first time they brought in that target score.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Oh yeah, the target scare.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
That was a competitive charges.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yes, yeah, first charge. Remember I remember that. I remember
that for.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
The first time since he Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, yes, come trying to think of the last time
that we had a competitive all fair enough, But all
I'm saying is we gotta do better.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Because if you guys, all the superstars or stars close
to superstar status, if you guys going to coach Rico
Hines runs playing hard, going hard, You're going to Brickley.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
What's his name, Chris Brickley, Chris Brickley, Chris Brickley.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Going to his runs doing a damn thing, going hard. Bro,
You're not gonna go hard at the All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's the part that that's the part that doesn't make
sense to me is because when people say, oh, well,
they don't want to get hurt or but you guys
play harder in these runs, so what's the difference. I
think this would probably be more legit to play hard
in the All Star Game than a freaking Rico Hines
run and.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
You got all the you got all the corporate sponsors there, bro,
Like it's a slap.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's where you would take the chance because that's your job,
right Heines is on your own time.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
But I think they're forgetting that you're a MAX player.
You're getting those dollars for a reason.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
There's a lot of there's a lot of people who
in the league who are not Max guys who's getting
Max type of dollars. Like the way the the you know,
the the TV stuff is is where these guys are
getting all these top dollars. Man, It's it's a lot
of money, man. I mean, and you can thank Kobe
and MJ and of course because they they evolved it, man,
but thank these guys. But I mean, come on, I

(14:55):
don't know, I don't know what it is and why
guys don't want to. We're not saying take charges, we're
not saying dive on the floor, but just the competitive
nature like I want to. I want to. I want to,
I want to. I want to destroy you just like
you don't want to each other, Like I just this
buddy buddy stuff that I see and shooting threes and
I don't know, man, it's not it's not. It's not
very nice to watch anymore.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
This was all of our favorite parts of of the
NBA season was All Star Weekend. We're growing. Maybe maybe
we need to the Brooks.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
We gotta if they if they can put in like
I said before, they put in the Rising Stars, the
champion of the Rising Star Tournament this past All Star
Weekend to play on Sunday, bringing Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Man worlds us.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
You see how that plays now every time he plays
against Houston, ever since he got into that little dust
up with with Dylan Brooks, you get the best out
of him.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm telling you, man, Dylan activates a lot.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
He activates a lot of these superstar players man, because
he don't give you don't give two ships about them.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, and I think moving with Tranning Fry. With Tanning Fri,
he made the comment about guys why guys like Ant
Edwards don't and Jam Morant don't want to be the
faces of the NBA, and but he's he's talking about
you know, we have to blame the nineties, and people

(16:17):
in the media are comparing these young guys to MJ
forty years ago. I think that's very unfair. It's unfair
because it can't go both ways, right, those same guys
in the media. When you guys do well and you
guys do something great, they boost you guys, So you
can't be mad when they're comparing you to Why not

(16:40):
compare you to MJ at forty he played all eighty
two games? Now here talk about they want to lower
the games? What are we doing here? Bro? Cut it out? Man.
Shouldn't everything be evolved? Nutrition everything, you know, a physio
of how the body is. Things are different. These these
dudes are us in their achilles and playing in two months.

(17:03):
You bust your achilles back in the day. You're done, done,
You're finished. So what do we How are we? How
are we talking about to play less game? We don't
want to do eighty two games? Normal? Like, what are
we doing to this product? It all revolves around one thing,
play hard and we won't have this mess. It's the
lack of competitiveness. We can't keep waiting all nobody. Do
you watch regular season? I don't watch regular seam like

(17:24):
that unless just like a big, big game. I love
the NBA, so I'm gonna watch. I watch college more
like when I go home, I'm not to go watch
the girls play college girls boys. I watched all Boys yesterday.
I did watch the Denver Hooper is coming up. You
guys should be watching college ball. It's just it just
shows because those guys. None of those guys are making money.

(17:45):
Not all of them are making the top dollars like
the top players. Not all of them are on anile deal.
So they're playing with purpose. They're playing with purpose, and
they have no choice because in the NBA, the players,
it's a players league, and in college the coaches, if
you don't play, then you're gone. We've seen plenty of
five star kids who don't, you know, add up to

(18:05):
what they're supposed to be when they get to these
programs because they just don't do it. They have a
big head or whatever the reasons, and coaches like, all right,
well you don't run the program, so you got to go.
You can't do that in the NBA, it's always the
coaches are going to be the first ones to get fired.
So I don't know if it's the money thing. All
I know is the lack of competitiveness is out the window,
and until that comes back, we're gonna still see this

(18:27):
type of product.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It will never change, and you're gonna let all these
other sports even though in other people's minds, you know,
the NHL, the NFL or ahead of the NBA. I'm
always going to say NBA is number one. But now
NBA is given these guys a reason to feel like
they run shit right.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Now and we can't and we can't talk about That's
the reason why Nwards doesn't want to be the face
of the NBA because he doesn't want to get scrutinized
by the media. Why why is he? Why is he?
Why is he like you know, we can't scrutinize him.
Why why is that? MJ? Why is he too good

(19:03):
to get scrutinized.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
MJ and Kobe got scrutinized that crazy in the papers,
had newspapers, Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
The New York Times, they were killing m J. When
you left and went to Land City to go gamble
during the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
You feel me demolishing Kobe's character with the rape allusation.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
So what are we talking about? Like, why can't why
is he too good to be scrutinized? Why is John Morant?
My nigga? Tighten up? You come to the game and
a poosh, heisty nigga. Tighten up? You toting guns out
in these streets. Tighten up and edwards you smashing and
you're having babies all over the place. Tighten up, tighten
up or wrap it up? Sh yeah or perfect, wrap

(19:41):
that ship up, my nigga, Like what are we doing here?
We'll talk. You think people are not going to get
in your business? Of course you're making three hundred million dollars,
you're a superstar. Of Course the media and everybody's going
to getting your business. Bro, you're not doing the right thing.
Why what makes you? Why do you need to come
in the game, into an NBA game in a pool sisty?

(20:03):
Are you cold? He could be cold? Are you? Are you?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
You don't want nohe to see who you are because.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
He does not want to be the face of the NBA.
Another you know, yeah, yeah, another segue, Yeah, because I
don't know why the NBA don't want to make one
of our foreigners or non American players the face of
the NBA.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's what bothered me, because you have Stephen a saying
this is an American sport and we should not have
a foreigner be the face. And then you had you
guys like uh Shannon Sharp said the same thing. Carmelos
are the same thing. Okay, well you have Jason Tatum
and y'all refuse to make him. You gotta you, guys,
forever distant. Jt for whatever he's he's been, he's been.
He's been the first team All NBA past year, for

(20:48):
like the last two three years. What are we talking
about here, He's twenty six years old.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Talk to him, you know right now he's averaging twenty
seven eight and six.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
And how do you how is that not the face
doesn't get don't he doesn't get in trouble. He takes
punkoffs like crazy and still puts in work. Yeah, he's
an NBA champion, now I don't. I'm just confused. He's
he has a two gold medals in the Olympics. All
of this at twenty six years old. He's been to
the Conference finals like seven years. He's been to the
NBA Finals like two years. All of this at twenty

(21:20):
and y'all refuse Is it because he ain't he ain't
got a pooh shisty and got gold teeth in his mouth.
I don't know. I don't know. They need to grow
dreads and shit. I don't get to know.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Clean, but I don't get it. At the end of
the day, last year he was the only American on
the first team All NBA.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Tick that in Just really take that, and y'all refuse
to make guys like Yannis. It could Yannis be the face?
Maybe not joker. He just wants to play basketball and
go home and ride his horses. It's cool, But Luca,
you know, he'd be talking shit. He put that work
in work. You know he has a brand, you know,

(21:57):
with the Jordan and stuff and all that stuff. Now
he's with the Lakers. Cool. He could be the face
of the NBA. He's top five, been first Team All
NBA five straight years. You have shade, Shade will cook
you and go to his Instagram and put rap lyrics there.
He wears furs. He was wearing a fur coat in Oakland, California,

(22:18):
where's hottest ship? He's just that cool? What are we
talking about? And his own sneaker a pair O we
love you, but I might hoop, I might hoop in them.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Their multi purpose you can look good on off the court,
bust ass on the court with them, But.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
He has his own sneaker, Like he averages thirty What
does it all give you a stats? Right now? When
he averages this year? Like this kid, I'm so confused.
This kid is averaging thirty two, five and six shooting
fifty two percent from the field. What are we talking about?
How is this not a superstar? This kid is modeling
for skims and shiit? What do we talk like? How

(22:58):
is he cow? Can he not be the face because
he's Canadian? That's the dumbest ship. This is why, like,
you know, to go back to your point back, you
know a few episodes ago where you said, we got
to push these old we gotta get ready to you know,
start branding these younger kids and the Kd's and the
Lebron's and you guys have the lifetime of keeping the worse.

(23:19):
That's cool, but now who is going to be after
these You guys have to be prepared now do you
guys have the global stage where y'all Ben Tatum and
you had these old guys. You know, but how do
you rebrand the NBA now? And who takes over? You
can look at the All Star Game m v P.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I think j JT had a better stat line than
than Steph anybody one or two points, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
The golden stuff is the golden shot? You wrong?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
When are we going to pass the torch or past
the torches if we can't find a solidified face in
the NBA?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Listen, I think those are faces I think and edwards.
Sometimes sometimes you ain't got no choice even if you
say you don't want to be Remember Charles Barkley used
to be like, I don't want to be a role.
You got a choice. You've got a choice, my man,
Go go go be a doctor or some shit, Go
be a teacher if you don't want to do a shit.
This is the responsibility and it's what comes with it
when you get when you're not in the league, when

(24:17):
you're a max dollars player, this is the responsibility that
comes with it. So you ain't got no choice, right,
So or don't have a choice even if you say
I don't want to be the face that you ain't
got no choice, my man. You got a signature seeker
by Adidas, You are a top ten twelve player in
the league. You are a max contract player. You are
the head in the face of the Minnesota Timberwolves. What

(24:38):
are we talking about. You ain't got no choice but him, Shae, Him, Shae,
Luca and Jason Tatum. Those are your four and that's
what that's going to be your four to carry on
for the next ten years.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
They really want Victor to be it too.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, he's going to be. He's going to be up there.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
To health wise, you never know that right now.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
That was my only thing with Victor. I knew he
was tall and skinny, was like, is he going to
be healthy? That was my only concern. If he's healthy,
he's gonna be one of the greats to play this game.
If he's not, then right, yeah, it'll be tough.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
But I mean, shout out Lebron in regards to the
way he does business, you.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
And the basketball world and the business world and his
world just combined so beautifully. And I think kids watching that,
you know, we're taking notes. So now you're seeing the
end result of what as with Lebron's leadership. What we're
seeing now guys sitting out.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Guys are more.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
They care more about their brand, their personal brand, than
what they're actually putting on the court. They want to
sit out games.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
This is the issue, though, This is the issue that
I have with that though, right, because you got to
use the All Star weekend like the super Bowl. This
is the biggest stage. This is our super Bowl. Yes,
when did Shape release a sneaker? He got the memos,
So you have to use this as the super Bowl
and not be as big as far as viewership. But
how can we get close or get you know, how

(26:05):
can we get there? Not moving to Pasha, the superstars
got to play bottom line. Bottom line. Superstars gott to
play a bottom line. It's the product, bro, Like, what
are we doing? Yeah? Anyways, let's move on to hip hop.
Drake and Party or I should say Party next Door
and Drake. They dropped their collaboration album first week sales

(26:26):
or two hundred and forty nine k. What is your
thoughts because two hundred and forty nine k this is
without Spotify. You know they're Spotify was suppressing you know,
the whole album. It was hard to even find it
and how could you be number one on Apple? But
then you can't. You're not on none of the charts
on Spotify. So are we saying that Drake Drake fans

(26:50):
only use that spot I mean Apple, they don't. There's
no Drake fans that you Spotify clearly, but you know
with with Spotify suppressing it, the label not pushing it
the way that you know. So these are all legit numbers.
Two hundred and forty nine K. I know a lot
of people were comparing it to the Drake I mean GNX,
which is weird because GNX is a hip hop album

(27:11):
and this is, you know, an R and B album
for the ladies. So I don't know why the comparison is.
But if you want to compare it like Kendrick having
all of that and only and only doing like seventy
eighty thousand more, and it's yeah. So what is your thoughts?
Is this a W two hundred and forty nine K
or L?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
This is a big dub, big dub for Drake and
Party next Door, you know what I mean, Party next Door.
This is his first number one album, I believe, Yes,
first number one. I mean this is Drake's fourteenth.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yes, he's tied with jay Z for the most forty day.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
You don't try and sabotage it now when he comes
up with his solo his solo album, just because he
will pass you at number fifteen.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
With number fifteen, he will pass you in episode.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
So don't don't do no behind the scenes stuff, man,
just because I know you're a subliminal type brother man,
please leave him alone.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Man, this is a win.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Unlike I could have sworn charlemagne E bro buttons all
saying he's dead in the water.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know what I mean. They said he was a corpse.
He's done. They said he was a corpse. Hold that
number one is the number one album in the country
right now, two hundred and forty nine k. This is
a big dub, like I said, not having the actual
label support suppressing it. So how could this not be
you know, a dub? It doesn't make any sense. And

(28:31):
it's a collaboration album. Like you said, Drake's fourteenth number one,
which is ties for the most, and he gave Party
his first number one album, So it looks like Drake's
stimmy package still is still going. DJ Yeah, messed up,
messed up killer Pimmy the artist. She's honestly has her

(28:54):
own solo song on the album. She had thirty k monthly,
says listeners, and now she's at three point seven million,
so that's great.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, the Stemi package is still alive, The Stemy.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Package is still there. Yes, And also we have to
give Drake his credit. I know people are going, oh,
you guys, are Drake lazers cool? Say what you want.
It is what it is. But Drake has been the
best selling rapper for ten years consecutive consecutively. So he's
been the best rapper for ten consecutive years.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
You know, that's like Lebron going to the Chip ten times,
but Drake actually winning. Yeah, you know what I mean.
You know what I mean, not just getting to the finals,
winning it. So shout out to Drake man.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, and I want to I want to give you
a stat where I think it is just I want
you to take this in and I want you to
tell me because, like I said, with Spotify has been
moving a little weird and my I and this is
Drake's Spotify stats. So total streams is one hundred and
nine billion, followers, is ninety six point one million, and

(30:01):
monthly listeners is seventy seven million, right, Kendrick stats is
forty three billion, so Drake has one on nine billion,
Kendrick has forty three billion. The followers Kendrick has thirty
seven point six million, but it's monthly listeners are one
hundred million, So people are like, oh, well, he doesn't subscribe,

(30:25):
people don't have to follow.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
What are you trying to saying ninety six million followers
seventy seven million monthly listeners? It's not that far off. Yeah,
between seventy thirty seven point six and one hundred million.
It's freaking crazy. I don't know, I don't know. You

(30:48):
guys tell me what what do you guys think about that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Before the beef, Kendrick was around the fifty.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Range monthly listeners, I think so.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, I think he was around the fifty right. What's
here right now?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
He's a hundred million monthly listeners, I think Kendrick, I.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Think it was around fifty to sixty, right. I think
that was his rage and then like Us came out.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
And then the Super Bowl boosted it.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, but I think mainly it's not like Us.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
That song Okay, uh, who your top five songs from
the Party and Drake album collaborate? What's your top five
songs from the album? My top five? All right?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
My number five, Uh, somebody loves Me? You know what
I mean is this is this I'm gonna go from
five to one.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay, go ahead, right, so.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Number five somebody loves Me and dope ass dope my
time b type chat man.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
You know what I mean. It goes hard, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Number four Brian Steele, You know what I mean, you
had to let everybody know, Like you know, man's told
with the chill, but no fucking he's still he still
wants more. He still wants more, you know what I mean.
Number three c in Tower number two. You know I
got to call this the side nigga anthem slash. You
know you're out the friend zone. You're out, You're out

(32:06):
the fen zone. You got the hall pass. You got
that hall pass type type anthem.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Lasers You know when you when you see that, when
you see that, uh that tattoo from the back. Yeah,
I'm married and ship. You know this is not this
is this is the old black Wood talking.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You know what I mean. Crazy crazy, but I love
you got to go.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I mean it just brought back memories. Just listen to that,
just brought back memories, you know. And yeah, my number
one will be giving me a hugby you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
So what would you read the album out of ten?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Out of ten, I'll give it a seven point.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Five, seven point seven I got, I got from five
to one. I got rating in Houston. Yeah, which is
I love The beat Switch up is crazy Pimmy's dilemma.
I told you she's fire. I really rock with her
solo like one of my favorites, just the told vibe
No Kia, bro, like you just want to just you

(32:59):
just want to just get into just dancing when you
hear no Kia, just a vibe and give me a
hugs crazy obviously, you know it's one of the standouts
the beat Switch you know, him calling Joe Button's a cocksucker,
you know, and Melissa Ford saying she's she's a legend
from the six. Which is she a legend from the
six or is it she's the only a legend, which

(33:20):
it is convenient for her. Somebody Loves Me is my
favorite song on their Him and Party Go Crazy. The
way they ride that beat, the wave is just insane.
I'm seeing it a lot on TikTok right now, which
is crazy. But uh, those are my top five. I
rate the album. I give it about an eight out

(33:41):
of ten. I think the first ten songs is no
skip and then you meet your padres just kills my.
I just I just I want to whip the whole
ship out. That song is just horrible for me. But
maybe the piss and you know, they might like that,
but it's not for me. It's not for me. But yeah,
I give about eight out of ten. That's pretty rock

(34:01):
with rock YEP. But uh again, Uh, talk to us,
what is your favorite songs on the album? Let us know,
give us your top three songs on the album, and
let's tell us how you feel. Uh not bad for
a corpse? No, not bad for it's funny. It's funny

(34:21):
because last week they said he is dead, he's a corpse. Uh, sickness,
he's sickness. And then last episode, I'm seeing a lot
of these guys they're they're changing. Oh well, Drake is
still Drake. Drake is still Drake. Man. You know, you
can make hits and you can do you can this
is what he can't do, like guys kill me man,

(34:43):
like they that was projecting and wishing and hoping that
he would fail, right, And now a lot of backpedaling,
you have no choice, a lot of back pedaling. But
the Wireless Festival, you know he did, he is, you
know it's going to be an July. We will be there.
It's one hundred and fifty k. He sold out. It's

(35:05):
also out one hundred and fifty k units in fifteen minutes.
And it's just it's very interesting because after that was announced,
Kendrick at number one and you can't Spotify, what are
you to em playing? What are you implying my brother, Yo, Drake,
remove all your music from that trash ass platform. Remove
it all Spotify ain't shit. Just take it off. Take

(35:27):
all your music off that shit. It's trash. But uh again,
I like I like to I don't want people to
go in and think that, you know, we are like
Kendrick haters. I love Kendrick. You know, one of my
favorite songs is swimming Pools like. He's amazing, an amazing artist,
you know, congratulation on a hundred monthly listeners, one hundred

(35:48):
million monthly listeners. Yes, he's the only rapper I believe
to do that. No other rapper has done that before,
I believe, So congratulations to him. I just one thing
about me with Kendrick is when you admit that you're
a hater, Like back in when we were growing up,
being a hater was like you don't want to be

(36:10):
around that person as a hater. So for him to
say I'm the biggest hater and people, oh, yeah, this
is sick and this is gree Like, what are you
talking about? He's calling himself the biggest hater. So it's
like people in twenty five, twenty twenty four, they allowed
him to make it cool to be a hater. I

(36:31):
don't want no hate around me. I'm cool off that
I don't need no hater around me. And that's one
thing that I was like, Man, this guy's admitting to it.
So this all sound like it came from a jealousies. Yeah,
this whole space bottom line, right.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Considering you know, you had so much great thing to
say about Drake.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
And the come up and your whole come up was
all great things, and you turn around and like, I'm
the biggest hater. I hate the way that you walk
to talk. I was like, damn, and people are saying
this is cool, this is all right. Well are the
degree they agree? Wow? So that's one one. That's that's
some generational type hater ship for real. That's that's why
y'all get the stiff arm. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't rocking

(37:09):
with no hater ship over here. Anyways, Moving along to
we gotta talk about Jake Cole's song, his new song
called Clouds and this song, I will be honest with you,
I gotta hear that. This showed me that j Cole
is the best lyricist out of the Big three. Looking

(37:29):
at that ship, Wow, he's the best lyricists owt of
the Big three. At one point you were saying, he's done.
I don't want to hear nothing from him. I didn't
do all that ship.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I know.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I go back on my word. Respect You know, he
left the boy to dry man, He left Drake out
to dry like come on, join like come on. He
didn't want it to be a two on one thing.
He was good enough.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
He respectfully bowed out because you've probably seen how the.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
People were going to be moving. He didn't want He's
seen all that ship. He didn't want nothing. He wants
nothing to do with it. I'm just saying this song here,
I wish we can play it. I know we can't
because it's gonna get striked. But that first verse from
him m shows me that he is the best lyricist
out of the three by far.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
The one line that still has me buzzing is him
basically calling himself the bullet that missed Trump crazy even
the grades, the grades that him had had Trump bleeding
a bit.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yes, you know what I meant that hot one? You
feel me? He flows so crazy. His float this right
there showed me really and truly like I knew he
was super dope at like I knew he was a lyricist,
but this showed me like, like what I was thinking
before is very true. He's the best.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Lets that aud put everybody back on notice. Let me
put you on notice, man, you guys, can everybody just
jump ship off of the strength of to rap beef?
Traditionally you're not supposed to bow out from a rap
beef Traditionally. What happened to flipping and Taylor made im Sorry,
I gotta go back to it. I gotta go back

(39:05):
to Taylor made Because there was some stuff said on
on Taylor made that that made a lot of sense.
You know, basically not like us wouldn't even be as
hot because Drake already said on Taylor made even though
he's doing pox voice in AI that you know, call
him a pedophile. We heard it on the Joe Budden podcast.

(39:26):
It'll make It'll make a lot of noise. You guys
took that off. People actually try to sue Drake for that,
supposedly from the pocket state, you know what I mean.
So I say I say that to say, bro, man
he seen me, Jake Holes, seeing the writing on the water.
I just said, Man, I'm off this, bro. But let

(39:46):
me remind you guys that I can like a spit bro,
and I'm one of the top top three in the game.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
That if you have to put them in order, is
in this big three, in this big three like right now,
right now, it would be Kendrick Jke, Cool, Kendrick j Cole,
Kendrick first, Kendrick Drake. Oh, he corrected his song. Yeah,

(40:12):
he said, he said, j take Kendrick Drake call okay,
all right, that's what it will be. Yeah, yeah, you
heard that.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I got a little list, but I got a little list.
But yeah, if I had to put a ranking out
right now, just for the week, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (40:32):
What about lyricists? Out of the three? Lyricists out of
the three.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
J Cole, Kendrick Drake, what about Rapper, Drake, Kendrick, J Cole, songwriters?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
A little about hit maker Drake Drake, Drake Drake. Yeah,
work done on it out, We're done after that. I'm
good off that the end of the show. Off that
one right there, Go ahead, lyricists. I agree with him.

(41:12):
I would say I would say J. Cole Kendrick than
than Drake.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Rapper.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I would say, I would say Drake, uh, J Cole
than Kendrick and hit Maker, I would say, I would
say Drake Kendrick than J. Cole. I think Kendrick has
more hits than J. Cole in my personal opinion, I
think they have the same amount. But that's just me
because he has Kendrick has some of my favorite songs,

(41:38):
like swimming Pools one of my favorite songs. Yeah, man,
that's what I would put it.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
But I just continue to before before we sign out,
what I want to want to shout out my West
You senior boys basketball team. Man, we got eliminated last week.
Uh to George s Henry. Solid solid, solid squad, Georgies Henry.
But yeah, I just want to shout my guys out.

(42:06):
You know, the Jadon's, the Christoph's, the Ricardo's, TJ's, the Josiah's,
the the the Lucas's, Adams, Jayshawn, Jalen Jaden, uh Ezra
Who else am I missing? Sajed Julian. Yes, you guys,

(42:32):
we were exavier. Yes we were not this year because
of what we did last year, the undefeated seon, the
undefeated season, the stack run obviously my man raheem Ford
and Jonathan.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
We had such a crazy year last year and everybody
written us off this year.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
You know, the talent wasn't there, but these kids came together, man,
you know what I mean, and we just we just
left it all on the court, you know, played with
a lot of grit, played a lot like we really
hung our our style of play on the defensive end,
and we just fell short to a better team.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
So shout out Georgia Henry, Shout out Oakwood, Shout out
Leeds Leesdale, lee Dale, Leesdale. There's there's a few, there's
a few, solid, solid teams in the TDSB that would
give these prep schools a run for their money.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
The Humber side Umberside good, really really good. Yes, Jackson
a y Jackson, you got Saint Martin's, you got Saint Roach,
you got.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Uh yeah, man, high school balling dead man? I say
that definitely, man. I know their officers are coming up.
You know, shout out Humber for hosting.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
The cities.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
You did it for the girls and you did it
for the guys on the tds B side. Yeah, I
love humbers doing Humber College is bringing back that feel
and giving that platform. That court is a beautiful court
to play on, you know, so you know what I mean.
High school ball ain't dead man. I say that the
same man. And lastly, lastly, you know, I'm an MJ guy.

(44:16):
I'm an eighties baby that grew up watching MJ.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
He is the goat.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
But I always said the best point guard of all
time is Isaiah Thomas. I always said that, you know
what I mean, Everybody looks at me crazy and stuff.
But shout out Tim Hardaway for letting it be known
that MJ did put the stiff arm out and said
he's not going to play on the Dream Team. Unless

(44:40):
Isaiah Thomas is not playing. So he put that rumor
to bed. Everybody was saying MJ had nothing to do
with it. My man, Tim Hardaway, the Crossover King, said it.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
So it is true.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yes it is true, Yes it is you know what
I mean, the greatest because you need.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
To be focused on goddamn Halliburton, right.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Go bro, Yeah I'm Jaylon, but yeah man, just continue
to support man, follow us on our social media platforms.
We're doing it for you guys. Follow us on Instagram,
X YouTube, subscribe, yo telephone to tell a friend my
hit the website, and yeah man titlely man. Continue to

(45:29):
continue to give us the platform to put in that
work because we're gonna keep working. Twenty four seven, three
sixty five range, snow, sunshine, power, going out in the building,
don't matter.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
We are going to perform, you know what I mean?
And Yo were out man,