December 20, 2024 • 14 mins
Revisit our two songs about groundbreaking women in STEM with some close-listening tips from Lee Overtree of the Story Pirates! Follow along with the lyric sheets for these songs at storypirates.com/historicalrecords
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of Historical Records get ready
to hear about a historical hero through hip hop.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Also, parents and teachers.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You can download a.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Free activity related to today's episode by visiting story pirates
dot com, slash Historical Records and now onto the show.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
After a few words for the grownups Historical.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Records, you are now listening to Historical.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
To make history, you got to have struggle to make history.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
You got to show poise.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Cannot be quiet loud as a riot to make history.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You gotta make some noise.
Speaker 7 (00:51):
Hey listeners, leave from story Pirates and executive producer of
Historical Records here. One of my favorite things about hip
hop is re listening to songs so that I can
analyze and hear all of the lyrics. The words can
sometimes come pretty fast and furious, so re listening and
close listening is essential to really appreciating these incredible artists
(01:13):
and songs that we are so proud of. Today, we
have for you our two songs from this season about
groundbreaking women in stem STEM that's science, Technology, Engineering and math. Yep,
I'm talking about Katie Carco and Mary Golda Ross. Science
and math haven't always been fields where women have been welcomed.
(01:35):
In fact, for a long time, and sometimes even still today,
it's hard for women to find jobs in science and math,
even though they're totally qualified and deserving of them. It's
not fair and it's not right. But Katie Caraco and
Mary golda Ross both did more than their part in
opening up science and math to women all over the world.
(01:58):
So let's start by talking about song about Katie Carko.
I just love the lyrics to this song, specifically the
metaphor about wolves and sheep that starts the song. But
what exactly is a metaphor. It's actually really simple. A
metaphor is just a way of comparing one thing to
another thing as a way to explain it or shine
(02:21):
a light on that thing. And a good metaphor really
tells the story. That's why metaphors are so common in
hip hop lyrics, and in this song, the lyrics use
an extended metaphor to explain how vaccines work. An extended
metaphor is an extended story, an even longer story, and
(02:42):
it can be really fun to follow along with it.
So here's what I want you to do. Listen to
the song and the metaphor about how vaccines work, you know,
the part about the wolf and the sheep, And then
after you finished listening, see if you can repeat the
metaphor to someone else, because that's another cool thing about metaphors.
They can make remembering complicated things like how vaccines work
(03:07):
much much easier. And if you want to follow along
with the lyrics, which I definitely recommend, you can find
them at story pirates dot com slash historical records. After
this first track, I'll be back to point out a
couple of things I love about our song, Mary Golda Ross.
Here's Katiecarco enjoy.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Hello world. I'm Katiecarico.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I help develop the in vitro transcribe messenger RNA for
protein therapies, directly leading to the ninety nine percent effective
Pfizer BioNTech coronavirus vaccine. But in order to understand what
the heck I just said, let me break down some
science for you, Starting with how vaccines work. Think of
your body as a field full of sheep aka white
(03:59):
let's sell soaps so clean and thinks of a disease
like a wolf's so mean.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
The wolf wants to eat all the sheep. Bet the seed.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
He come mon man in his sheep's clothes and from
his head to with cells got a coat of protein.
If the sheep get oop, then they get deeped in
the vaccines. Like the first time the wolf gets seen
a little mini wolf.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Who has been we can give a hint of the wolf.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
So the sheep gets this thing an alarm that can
bring if the wolf back again, So the sheep know
not to let the big wolf tend.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So when the whole world entangled in.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
COVID nineteen, ourselves need vaccines, and they need them with speed,
but it takes many.
Speaker 8 (04:34):
Years just to test.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Send for Sita lets a keen scientist as a plant
to succeed. That's me Katie Cobraco, a hero trying to
change the world.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But she ain't got a we go.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
She feels her contributions are ultimately equal to many scientists
in her field.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
Here we go, ca.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
My research. My neck wasn't ammar renee. That's messenger rival
nucleay ad it.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
The easiest way you can think about that is as
a ten three D printer. The fact it's like match it.
If it gets fed up protein, it will match it.
Making replications at the drop of a hat, them sending
them wherever they are needed in the body. Then the
process gets repeated and repeated, and my thumb the coverco
moment of Eureka was when I was in the lab
(05:38):
with my burners and my beakers, A thought, what if
we take that printer and we tweak it, we teach
it only to make the proteins that we feed it.
Why then we could create growth ages of ensigns, empty
bodies made at a rate that was ten times faster
than before.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I knew that this would change it at all. I
tried to tell the world, but nobody listen to.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
The call of me.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Hey the corricop and Vito trying to say the hours
but got spotted. Like Mesito survived adult with fucking perseverance
by the.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Kilo, even in the years when she had zero.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Where we go.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Thirty years later, I had spent the intervening time trying
to get grants, get published, get some meetings lined up
with power players to make moneys and connections better.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
All I got is spad was the emotions and rejection letters.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Sadly they thought my research was your far away, but
I stayed. The course continued down with Rna ended up
at pen met a scientists a nice man name of
Dru nice Man.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
We drew up a nice plan finally from.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
The work we paid dunes and made moves, had a
break free with your tech, but we stayed through Kate
Ruth Slope. But always new one day soon Team Adrew
would be ready.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
To come and save you. Twenty twenty. Now the COVID
bhopas some of the two scientists got their three printers.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
Quo.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
That is that queen in history made dinners with my
scientists for years that had always been brims like me. Hey, Dica,
reco oh much, I'm super stinking to her science ific credo.
After this, we hope she'll be no longer in cotrido.
Now she'll have a name that we know.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
So we go.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We'll be right back after a few words for the grownups.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Hey, Lee, here again, let's listen to Mary Golda Ross.
As you probably know, Mary Ross was Native American and
the very first Native American woman to work as an
aerospace engineer. So it was important to us that the
main vocalist in the song about Mary Ross was also
Native or indigenous. The song's vocalist is named Crystal Lightning
(08:45):
and Crystal is a First Nations actress, singer and rapper.
First Nations means that she's Indigenous or native to Canada.
We think she did an incredible job on this track
and wanted to shout her out. Remember you can find
the lyrics sheet by visiting storypyros dot com slash historical records.
(09:06):
Enough for me, enjoy the song Here's Mary Golda Ross
featuring Crystal Lightning.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I go by the name of Mary Golda Ross, aka
the first known Native American female aerospace engineer. I am
a mathematician, I am a Cherokee, and I am a trailblazer.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I was born in Oklahoma nineteen o eight, a small town.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Called park Hillward.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Life wasn't so great, but from a very early age
I showed a growth rate at learning to compute the
count and cold. Late I had a mind for math,
and I got math in my mind. But for Native girls,
you'll find it wasn't a good time. But I'm a
great grandchild, oh a Cherokee g so inside of me
a helldess belief. Those around me, they often agreed spend
(10:06):
my next few years with their help in pursuit of
my dreams knowledge. I sought it college with plotists, math class,
I taught it masters. I got it. But after the
next chapter of my biography, one in which the prodigy
in geometry wants to honestly do a stronoer me. But
misogyny in the field is the quantity of females as
(10:28):
near zero. It's hard to see a pass if you
can't see a hero. So we rode back to a reservation.
I worked in education. Maybe my dream was dead and
men instead for the next generation.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I never know where my pathletes plot. I solved all
my problems. I got math, leats, married old, I must
remember me check my legacy, engineer and Cherokee.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I did I advise the kids right? But I felt
I never ever really get that big life. But then
Germany starts picking up fight and my world changes quick overnight.
You might not know, but in World War Two men
were overseas siegings, so the girls would do new jobs
back before would never.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
Hurt towards you.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
A new world soars through and un worlds for you.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So what stab the sign?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Search for the sign and the coast signed. I headed
for the coastline to lick Heed on a course I
was charged, and a few didn't, and a few.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I was starting at the job I always.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Wanted do, an aeronautics making military place started silivery and rocketsylue.
Had that money in my pockets on the trade, would nope,
stopping within the war stopped and then.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
The men came home.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
So then I didn't know if they let me do
that work any more. Once again, every bosses at a
cross roads, at a loss for where to go.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh no, I never know where up at leaves pleat
us alve all my problems like at math leads.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Married gold up us.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Remember me check my legacy engineer and Cherokee.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
She screas make him say, take a.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Girl multiplier with some passion and ash attract all distraction,
add a little traction and a fraction, a fashion and
a glass ceiling.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Would you get the answer?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Risk Mary Ross.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And if they would have said you can't do Matthew anymore, I'd.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Be very cross.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
That would be a scary thought, because my mind absorbing
all these facts like the water, and my brain is
made of terry cloth. Yes, what I was so good
that they kept me here, Pay for me to train
again to be an engineer. Say for twenty plus years,
earn my pension here and did even more things than
I can mention here. Most of it is classified, but
(12:53):
the fighte to say you got Mary Ross to thing
for your flight. Today, only woman in the room where
the fellas is with the Melandine helping them new tech
development and writing manuals for the skunk Works. And after
I retired, I'm inspiring the young squirts, helping kids who
looked like me do what I did, be a hero
(13:14):
so they could dream big.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Jesus, Jesus see sweeze. Make him say Jesus see squeeze.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Hey Leah again, thanks for listening. We'll be back soon
with more episodes. In the meantime, grown ups, tell a
friend about the show. If you or kids you know
are enjoying it, it really helps us a lot.
Speaker 8 (14:07):
Bye.
Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of Historical Records get ready
to hear about a historical hero through hip hop.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Also, parents and teachers.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You can download a.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Free activity related to today's episode by visiting story pirates
dot com, slash Historical Records and now onto the show.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
After a few words for the grownups Historical.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Records, you are now listening to Historical.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
To make history, you got to have struggle to make history.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
You got to show poise.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Cannot be quiet loud as a riot to make history.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You gotta make some noise.
Speaker 7 (00:51):
Hey listeners, leave from story Pirates and executive producer of
Historical Records here. One of my favorite things about hip
hop is re listening to songs so that I can
analyze and hear all of the lyrics. The words can
sometimes come pretty fast and furious, so re listening and
close listening is essential to really appreciating these incredible artists
(01:13):
and songs that we are so proud of. Today, we
have for you our two songs from this season about
groundbreaking women in stem STEM that's science, Technology, Engineering and math. Yep,
I'm talking about Katie Carco and Mary Golda Ross. Science
and math haven't always been fields where women have been welcomed.
(01:35):
In fact, for a long time, and sometimes even still today,
it's hard for women to find jobs in science and math,
even though they're totally qualified and deserving of them. It's
not fair and it's not right. But Katie Caraco and
Mary golda Ross both did more than their part in
opening up science and math to women all over the world.
(01:58):
So let's start by talking about song about Katie Carko.
I just love the lyrics to this song, specifically the
metaphor about wolves and sheep that starts the song. But
what exactly is a metaphor. It's actually really simple. A
metaphor is just a way of comparing one thing to
another thing as a way to explain it or shine
(02:21):
a light on that thing. And a good metaphor really
tells the story. That's why metaphors are so common in
hip hop lyrics, and in this song, the lyrics use
an extended metaphor to explain how vaccines work. An extended
metaphor is an extended story, an even longer story, and
(02:42):
it can be really fun to follow along with it.
So here's what I want you to do. Listen to
the song and the metaphor about how vaccines work, you know,
the part about the wolf and the sheep, And then
after you finished listening, see if you can repeat the
metaphor to someone else, because that's another cool thing about metaphors.
They can make remembering complicated things like how vaccines work
(03:07):
much much easier. And if you want to follow along
with the lyrics, which I definitely recommend, you can find
them at story pirates dot com slash historical records. After
this first track, I'll be back to point out a
couple of things I love about our song, Mary Golda Ross.
Here's Katiecarco enjoy.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Hello world. I'm Katiecarico.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I help develop the in vitro transcribe messenger RNA for
protein therapies, directly leading to the ninety nine percent effective
Pfizer BioNTech coronavirus vaccine. But in order to understand what
the heck I just said, let me break down some
science for you, Starting with how vaccines work. Think of
your body as a field full of sheep aka white
(03:59):
let's sell soaps so clean and thinks of a disease
like a wolf's so mean.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
The wolf wants to eat all the sheep. Bet the seed.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
He come mon man in his sheep's clothes and from
his head to with cells got a coat of protein.
If the sheep get oop, then they get deeped in
the vaccines. Like the first time the wolf gets seen
a little mini wolf.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Who has been we can give a hint of the wolf.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
So the sheep gets this thing an alarm that can
bring if the wolf back again, So the sheep know
not to let the big wolf tend.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So when the whole world entangled in.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
COVID nineteen, ourselves need vaccines, and they need them with speed,
but it takes many.
Speaker 8 (04:34):
Years just to test.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Send for Sita lets a keen scientist as a plant
to succeed. That's me Katie Cobraco, a hero trying to
change the world.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But she ain't got a we go.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
She feels her contributions are ultimately equal to many scientists
in her field.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
Here we go, ca.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
My research. My neck wasn't ammar renee. That's messenger rival
nucleay ad it.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
The easiest way you can think about that is as
a ten three D printer. The fact it's like match it.
If it gets fed up protein, it will match it.
Making replications at the drop of a hat, them sending
them wherever they are needed in the body. Then the
process gets repeated and repeated, and my thumb the coverco
moment of Eureka was when I was in the lab
(05:38):
with my burners and my beakers, A thought, what if
we take that printer and we tweak it, we teach
it only to make the proteins that we feed it.
Why then we could create growth ages of ensigns, empty
bodies made at a rate that was ten times faster
than before.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I knew that this would change it at all. I
tried to tell the world, but nobody listen to.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
The call of me.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Hey the corricop and Vito trying to say the hours
but got spotted. Like Mesito survived adult with fucking perseverance
by the.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Kilo, even in the years when she had zero.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Where we go.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Thirty years later, I had spent the intervening time trying
to get grants, get published, get some meetings lined up
with power players to make moneys and connections better.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
All I got is spad was the emotions and rejection letters.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Sadly they thought my research was your far away, but
I stayed. The course continued down with Rna ended up
at pen met a scientists a nice man name of
Dru nice Man.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
We drew up a nice plan finally from.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
The work we paid dunes and made moves, had a
break free with your tech, but we stayed through Kate
Ruth Slope. But always new one day soon Team Adrew
would be ready.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
To come and save you. Twenty twenty. Now the COVID
bhopas some of the two scientists got their three printers.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
Quo.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
That is that queen in history made dinners with my
scientists for years that had always been brims like me. Hey, Dica,
reco oh much, I'm super stinking to her science ific credo.
After this, we hope she'll be no longer in cotrido.
Now she'll have a name that we know.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
So we go.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We'll be right back after a few words for the grownups.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Hey, Lee, here again, let's listen to Mary Golda Ross.
As you probably know, Mary Ross was Native American and
the very first Native American woman to work as an
aerospace engineer. So it was important to us that the
main vocalist in the song about Mary Ross was also
Native or indigenous. The song's vocalist is named Crystal Lightning
(08:45):
and Crystal is a First Nations actress, singer and rapper.
First Nations means that she's Indigenous or native to Canada.
We think she did an incredible job on this track
and wanted to shout her out. Remember you can find
the lyrics sheet by visiting storypyros dot com slash historical records.
(09:06):
Enough for me, enjoy the song Here's Mary Golda Ross
featuring Crystal Lightning.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I go by the name of Mary Golda Ross, aka
the first known Native American female aerospace engineer. I am
a mathematician, I am a Cherokee, and I am a trailblazer.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I was born in Oklahoma nineteen o eight, a small town.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Called park Hillward.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Life wasn't so great, but from a very early age
I showed a growth rate at learning to compute the
count and cold. Late I had a mind for math,
and I got math in my mind. But for Native girls,
you'll find it wasn't a good time. But I'm a
great grandchild, oh a Cherokee g so inside of me
a helldess belief. Those around me, they often agreed spend
(10:06):
my next few years with their help in pursuit of
my dreams knowledge. I sought it college with plotists, math class,
I taught it masters. I got it. But after the
next chapter of my biography, one in which the prodigy
in geometry wants to honestly do a stronoer me. But
misogyny in the field is the quantity of females as
(10:28):
near zero. It's hard to see a pass if you
can't see a hero. So we rode back to a reservation.
I worked in education. Maybe my dream was dead and
men instead for the next generation.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I never know where my pathletes plot. I solved all
my problems. I got math, leats, married old, I must
remember me check my legacy, engineer and Cherokee.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I did I advise the kids right? But I felt
I never ever really get that big life. But then
Germany starts picking up fight and my world changes quick overnight.
You might not know, but in World War Two men
were overseas siegings, so the girls would do new jobs
back before would never.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
Hurt towards you.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
A new world soars through and un worlds for you.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So what stab the sign?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Search for the sign and the coast signed. I headed
for the coastline to lick Heed on a course I
was charged, and a few didn't, and a few.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I was starting at the job I always.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Wanted do, an aeronautics making military place started silivery and rocketsylue.
Had that money in my pockets on the trade, would nope,
stopping within the war stopped and then.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
The men came home.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
So then I didn't know if they let me do
that work any more. Once again, every bosses at a
cross roads, at a loss for where to go.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh no, I never know where up at leaves pleat
us alve all my problems like at math leads.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Married gold up us.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Remember me check my legacy engineer and Cherokee.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
She screas make him say, take a.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Girl multiplier with some passion and ash attract all distraction,
add a little traction and a fraction, a fashion and
a glass ceiling.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Would you get the answer?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Risk Mary Ross.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And if they would have said you can't do Matthew anymore, I'd.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Be very cross.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
That would be a scary thought, because my mind absorbing
all these facts like the water, and my brain is
made of terry cloth. Yes, what I was so good
that they kept me here, Pay for me to train
again to be an engineer. Say for twenty plus years,
earn my pension here and did even more things than
I can mention here. Most of it is classified, but
(12:53):
the fighte to say you got Mary Ross to thing
for your flight. Today, only woman in the room where
the fellas is with the Melandine helping them new tech
development and writing manuals for the skunk Works. And after
I retired, I'm inspiring the young squirts, helping kids who
looked like me do what I did, be a hero
(13:14):
so they could dream big.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Jesus, Jesus see sweeze. Make him say Jesus see squeeze.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Hey Leah again, thanks for listening. We'll be back soon
with more episodes. In the meantime, grown ups, tell a
friend about the show. If you or kids you know
are enjoying it, it really helps us a lot.
Speaker 8 (14:07):
Bye.
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