December 13, 2024 • 11 mins
Revisit our two songs about 80’s NYC icons with some close-listening tips from Lee Overtree of the Story Pirates! Follow along with the lyric sheets for these songs at storypirates.com/historicalrecords
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of Historical Records, get ready
to hear about a historical hero through hip hop.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Also, parents and teachers.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You can download a.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Free activity related to today's episode by visiting story pirates
dot com, slash Historical Records and.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Now onto the show.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
After a few words for the grownups Historical.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Records, you are now listening to Historical.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
To make history, you got to have struggle to make history.
You got to show poise.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Cannot be quiet loud as a riot to make history,
you gotta make some noise.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Hey listeners, leave from the story Pirates and executive producer
of Historical Records here. One of my favorite things about
hip hop is to re listen to songs so that
I can analyze and hear all of the lyrics. The
words can sometimes come pretty fast and furious, so re
listening and close listening is essential to really appreciating these
(01:12):
incredible artists and the songs that we are so proud of. Today,
we have for you our two songs from this season
about New York City icons from the nineteen eighties, Keith
Herring and Willie Smith and guess.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
What Keith and Willy even knew?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Each other in real life, it can be hard to
believe that in a city as big as New York
Is that two artists could meet and work together. But
on the other hand, I guess when you're as talented
as both Keith and Willy were, it was inevitable that
their paths would cross. Let's listen to our song about
Keith first. Some of the grown ups might recognize that
(01:49):
this song is kind of in homage to the Beastie Boys,
a group of iconic rappers also from New York City
in the nineteen eighties. And though maybe not everyone would
immediately associate Keith with the Beasties, they ran in the
same artistic circles in New York City and at the
same time, and they definitely knew and were inspired by
(02:12):
each other. And they're both super playful in their art.
And remember, Keith loved to listen to music when he
painted and drew. Music was super important to him. So
while you're listening to this song, I want you to
get out some paper and something to draw with. Then
draw as you're listening to the song, just like Keith
(02:34):
would have done. So if you need to, you can
press pause right now to go gather some art supplies
and then come.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Back and later.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
If you want to follow along with the lyrics, which
I definitely recommend, you can find them at story pirates
dot com slash historical Records. After this first track, I'll
be back to point out a couple things I love about.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Our song, Willie Smith.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Here's Keith Herring enjoy.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You your sitting nineteen eighty subway station.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Filled with babies and not like the real ones. The
diapers start the.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Figures that I grew out of joy carrying boarding red.
I like drawing, and I like sharing art with people.
Miss lay and see I say, I like drawing babies.
He tried art school did not complete me much.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Preferred hit how graffiti.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I wanted something real and something speedy, not for the risk,
but for the worm and art Larry and artrollary and
art just for art's sake, about play, art about being gay,
not for pay, art that I would give away one
day in the train station took some shock and begins creation,
no real plan and no design, just simple lines, frunk
(03:55):
from my high carrying board reading. I likedrawing, and I
like sharing art with people. Men and and did I say,
I like drawing.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Babies about his drawings. The folks were for Satin Island.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Shoot things to Flatfish Avenue. All the people like the
way I made Ah, that was the trigger I got bigger.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now there's some moving for him to consider.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Like now I'm big, I'm higher up for more fault
now that a pop I'm the art.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Off the Warhall.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I'm friends with him now and JOm Michelle Bakiat.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But wait, stop, there's no need to name job one
more though. If I can break my own code, I
collapse with Willie Smith's ex episode Callaber's collector. It's all
complimentary under.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Their breath, they say his arts elementary.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Haters, Hayden fake ers, facing What do I do? I
keep maz caring morning. I like drawing, and I like
sharing art with people men and lay And did I
say I like drawing?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
B Yeah, maybe, he said, already is and Teller said,
al rady.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It just a few other creature so silly as spaceship shoot,
not nicking miles chilling up every h of a heart
or a butt that would fart form the prints of
a dog that would bark, and the pop bars.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Art has movement.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's all about movements. Group of mutants I dropped my
amusements for.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
School kids on the statue of Liberty.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
One day, then the next I'm a libertine.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He's making history. I'm making up from.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Hate, but in a way to deliver me and the
viewer to a childlife fun. I dropped babies because we
both used.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
To be One died when he was thirty one.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I dropped babies because we both used to be one.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Peeze carrying Vought in Redding.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I like drawing, and I like sharing art with peoples.
And did I say I like drawing babies? I keep
carrying born in Redding, But I liked drawing, and I
liked sharing art with people, men and ladies. And did
I mention I like drawing babies.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
We'll be right back after a few words for the
grown ups. Hey, Lee, here again, let's listen to Willie Smith. Now.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
One thing you're gonna hear a lot in this song
is the phrase my joy, which seems to me like
something else that Keith and Willie had in common. They
both sought out joy through their art. So I want
you to use your art materials again for this song
and do some more drawing while you listen. Maybe, like Willie,
(06:30):
you can even design and draw some clothes while you listen.
Will the clothes that you design and draw be the
kind that all kinds of people can wear, like willie'swear?
How do the vibes of the song influence what you draw?
And how are the drawings that you do to Willy's song.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Different from the drawings you did to Keith's song? Why?
Remember you can find the.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Lyric sheet by visiting story pirates dot com slash historical records.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Enough from me, enjoy the song. Here's Willie Smith.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
When people even name Willie Smith, I want them to
think that this is.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
A person who.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Cares enough about them that he's taking the time to
design and create and think for them. Like all wellings
of America, I could tell you would say how I
was supposed to fail, but then I ended up sailing
with all the boats and whales. Before I was selling clothes,
I had hope for sale, and even at a discount.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It was so for real.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Grew up in Hilladel, had a little health, nope, a
lot of help. My mother and my father told me
to go for self. Got it to yourself, do your best,
get it gone and you can get coins.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But true freedom is the wealth.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Willie that's my name came in the game.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We'll get into all.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Of that, but for now, I'm saying I'm conveying my
joy struggle. My joy not different from so many other
black boys. And I knew there was a world that
was almost had a readership. But I had to learn
lessons that nobody could teach. Tablets full of design and
fabric colors. Your fashion is one thing, The style is another.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
My joy, freedom to.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Love, imagine, brand new, but it's still blessing.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yes, I made clothes. Yes, I love to sew. I
possessed the fashion that I ain't even know. I knew
I had to grow. And you know I loved Philly,
but New York City, Yeah, I knew I had to go.
My best decision him lines crafted with so much precision
you could see the fishing. A few people mentioned that
it wasn't up to snuff, but eventually everybody was loving
my stuff. My mind went to another place to create
(08:51):
something live, The colors more vibrant, my own little island
where I could spend time on the shore, getting close
to the source.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And I'm smiling now.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Got a new clothing line. Yeah, it's finally out. Will it, wear,
get it is, get it dead everywhere I swear. I
think back to the famous line clothes don't make the
man unless you're wearing mind my joy. The scene is overdone.
It's supposed to be fun. But how they want to
(09:28):
say so, let's.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Go on give them so.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I walked the line from the harle of Renaissan city
de boys a richer now for the culture. No decoys,
street bustle and loud crowd, sweet noise. These are the
things I mean when I speak joy. In twenty five
nail off designs, I chose so you can chill or
if you want to profile and pose. And I don't
make clothes for the queen. I'm making for the people
on the street who way better limousine. I did it
(09:50):
for us, those kids on the front, stupid beautiful ladies
who need a cute new suits. You don't have to
be safe to have taste. Make it oversize, plus neon,
green and ad lace whatever. I lived my life with
no regrets. Being true to myself meant more than my success.
I never claimed to be the greatest or the best.
I just wanted you to be well dressed. And it's
my pleasure.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Joy stretch your arms out as far as you can,
God hands right there where you stand.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Hey Lee again, thanks for listening. We'll be back again
soon with more episodes. In the meantime, grown ups, tell
a friend about the show. If you or your kids
are enjoying it, it really helps us a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Bye.
Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of Historical Records, get ready
to hear about a historical hero through hip hop.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Also, parents and teachers.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You can download a.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Free activity related to today's episode by visiting story pirates
dot com, slash Historical Records and.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Now onto the show.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
After a few words for the grownups Historical.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Records, you are now listening to Historical.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
To make history, you got to have struggle to make history.
You got to show poise.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Cannot be quiet loud as a riot to make history,
you gotta make some noise.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Hey listeners, leave from the story Pirates and executive producer
of Historical Records here. One of my favorite things about
hip hop is to re listen to songs so that
I can analyze and hear all of the lyrics. The
words can sometimes come pretty fast and furious, so re
listening and close listening is essential to really appreciating these
(01:12):
incredible artists and the songs that we are so proud of. Today,
we have for you our two songs from this season
about New York City icons from the nineteen eighties, Keith
Herring and Willie Smith and guess.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
What Keith and Willy even knew?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Each other in real life, it can be hard to
believe that in a city as big as New York
Is that two artists could meet and work together. But
on the other hand, I guess when you're as talented
as both Keith and Willy were, it was inevitable that
their paths would cross. Let's listen to our song about
Keith first. Some of the grown ups might recognize that
(01:49):
this song is kind of in homage to the Beastie Boys,
a group of iconic rappers also from New York City
in the nineteen eighties. And though maybe not everyone would
immediately associate Keith with the Beasties, they ran in the
same artistic circles in New York City and at the
same time, and they definitely knew and were inspired by
(02:12):
each other. And they're both super playful in their art.
And remember, Keith loved to listen to music when he
painted and drew. Music was super important to him. So
while you're listening to this song, I want you to
get out some paper and something to draw with. Then
draw as you're listening to the song, just like Keith
(02:34):
would have done. So if you need to, you can
press pause right now to go gather some art supplies
and then come.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Back and later.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
If you want to follow along with the lyrics, which
I definitely recommend, you can find them at story pirates
dot com slash historical Records. After this first track, I'll
be back to point out a couple things I love about.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Our song, Willie Smith.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Here's Keith Herring enjoy.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You your sitting nineteen eighty subway station.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Filled with babies and not like the real ones. The
diapers start the.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Figures that I grew out of joy carrying boarding red.
I like drawing, and I like sharing art with people.
Miss lay and see I say, I like drawing babies.
He tried art school did not complete me much.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Preferred hit how graffiti.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I wanted something real and something speedy, not for the risk,
but for the worm and art Larry and artrollary and
art just for art's sake, about play, art about being gay,
not for pay, art that I would give away one
day in the train station took some shock and begins creation,
no real plan and no design, just simple lines, frunk
(03:55):
from my high carrying board reading. I likedrawing, and I
like sharing art with people. Men and and did I say,
I like drawing.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Babies about his drawings. The folks were for Satin Island.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Shoot things to Flatfish Avenue. All the people like the
way I made Ah, that was the trigger I got bigger.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now there's some moving for him to consider.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Like now I'm big, I'm higher up for more fault
now that a pop I'm the art.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Off the Warhall.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I'm friends with him now and JOm Michelle Bakiat.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But wait, stop, there's no need to name job one
more though. If I can break my own code, I
collapse with Willie Smith's ex episode Callaber's collector. It's all
complimentary under.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Their breath, they say his arts elementary.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Haters, Hayden fake ers, facing What do I do? I
keep maz caring morning. I like drawing, and I like
sharing art with people men and lay And did I
say I like drawing?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
B Yeah, maybe, he said, already is and Teller said,
al rady.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It just a few other creature so silly as spaceship shoot,
not nicking miles chilling up every h of a heart
or a butt that would fart form the prints of
a dog that would bark, and the pop bars.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Art has movement.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's all about movements. Group of mutants I dropped my
amusements for.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
School kids on the statue of Liberty.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
One day, then the next I'm a libertine.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He's making history. I'm making up from.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Hate, but in a way to deliver me and the
viewer to a childlife fun. I dropped babies because we
both used.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
To be One died when he was thirty one.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I dropped babies because we both used to be one.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Peeze carrying Vought in Redding.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I like drawing, and I like sharing art with peoples.
And did I say I like drawing babies? I keep
carrying born in Redding, But I liked drawing, and I
liked sharing art with people, men and ladies. And did
I mention I like drawing babies.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
We'll be right back after a few words for the
grown ups. Hey, Lee, here again, let's listen to Willie Smith. Now.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
One thing you're gonna hear a lot in this song
is the phrase my joy, which seems to me like
something else that Keith and Willie had in common. They
both sought out joy through their art. So I want
you to use your art materials again for this song
and do some more drawing while you listen. Maybe, like Willie,
(06:30):
you can even design and draw some clothes while you listen.
Will the clothes that you design and draw be the
kind that all kinds of people can wear, like willie'swear?
How do the vibes of the song influence what you draw?
And how are the drawings that you do to Willy's song.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Different from the drawings you did to Keith's song? Why?
Remember you can find the.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Lyric sheet by visiting story pirates dot com slash historical records.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Enough from me, enjoy the song. Here's Willie Smith.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
When people even name Willie Smith, I want them to
think that this is.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
A person who.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Cares enough about them that he's taking the time to
design and create and think for them. Like all wellings
of America, I could tell you would say how I
was supposed to fail, but then I ended up sailing
with all the boats and whales. Before I was selling clothes,
I had hope for sale, and even at a discount.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It was so for real.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Grew up in Hilladel, had a little health, nope, a
lot of help. My mother and my father told me
to go for self. Got it to yourself, do your best,
get it gone and you can get coins.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But true freedom is the wealth.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Willie that's my name came in the game.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We'll get into all.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Of that, but for now, I'm saying I'm conveying my
joy struggle. My joy not different from so many other
black boys. And I knew there was a world that
was almost had a readership. But I had to learn
lessons that nobody could teach. Tablets full of design and
fabric colors. Your fashion is one thing, The style is another.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
My joy, freedom to.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Love, imagine, brand new, but it's still blessing.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yes, I made clothes. Yes, I love to sew. I
possessed the fashion that I ain't even know. I knew
I had to grow. And you know I loved Philly,
but New York City, Yeah, I knew I had to go.
My best decision him lines crafted with so much precision
you could see the fishing. A few people mentioned that
it wasn't up to snuff, but eventually everybody was loving
my stuff. My mind went to another place to create
(08:51):
something live, The colors more vibrant, my own little island
where I could spend time on the shore, getting close
to the source.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And I'm smiling now.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Got a new clothing line. Yeah, it's finally out. Will it, wear,
get it is, get it dead everywhere I swear. I
think back to the famous line clothes don't make the
man unless you're wearing mind my joy. The scene is overdone.
It's supposed to be fun. But how they want to
(09:28):
say so, let's.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Go on give them so.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I walked the line from the harle of Renaissan city
de boys a richer now for the culture. No decoys,
street bustle and loud crowd, sweet noise. These are the
things I mean when I speak joy. In twenty five
nail off designs, I chose so you can chill or
if you want to profile and pose. And I don't
make clothes for the queen. I'm making for the people
on the street who way better limousine. I did it
(09:50):
for us, those kids on the front, stupid beautiful ladies
who need a cute new suits. You don't have to
be safe to have taste. Make it oversize, plus neon,
green and ad lace whatever. I lived my life with
no regrets. Being true to myself meant more than my success.
I never claimed to be the greatest or the best.
I just wanted you to be well dressed. And it's
my pleasure.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Joy stretch your arms out as far as you can,
God hands right there where you stand.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Hey Lee again, thanks for listening. We'll be back again
soon with more episodes. In the meantime, grown ups, tell
a friend about the show. If you or your kids
are enjoying it, it really helps us a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Bye.
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