November 17, 2022 • 36 mins
“First of all, I'm a good person. Okay? So you know for fact that I pick sweet potato. Because ain't no way on God's blue marble that I'mma act like that I am going to be eating something that people carve faces to.” - Dulcé Sloan
“I've never had a bad pumpkin pie, mainly because they've been store bought. But I have had some homemade pumpkin pies that were good.” - Josh Johnson
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, friends, and dul Say Sloan, corresponding for the Daily Show.
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Let us know. Hey, I'm Josh Johnson running for The
(00:25):
Daily Show, and this is hold Up. I'm here with
my co host. Today's topic is sweet potato pie versus
pumpkin pie. And tell the people. Let them know. First
of all, I'm a good person. Okay, so you know
for a fact that I picked sweet Savor because it
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ain't no way on God's blue marble that I'm gonna
act like that. I Am going to be eating something
that for car and faces too. Okay. The only time
anybody messes with that vegetable, with that squash, Okay, with
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that ground dwelling vine climbing orange vegetables from November to
do something people ain't thinking about pumpkin the rest of
the year. It's like, oh, pumpkin spice. Pumpkin spice is
not made for pumpkins. It's just nutmeg, it's and made
other stuff. It's just the season that we put on pumpkin.
And also we call it pumpkin spice. But I've had
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a pumpkin pie, and pumpkin spices ain't in that pie.
The spices ain't good. And don't act like, oh, they're
equal to each other. Oh you know that, we can't.
You can't even tell. You can tell. Look at who's
at that party, look at who's at this kid together. Okay,
whatever the majority is, that's what that pie is. That's
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what that pie is. I'll just say. I'll just say
and and and so my mother is allergic to pumpkin, right,
and so we gotta sweep potato pipe from the store
one time, I guess this was in Atlanta, and the
pumpkin wasn't selling. They had snucked the pumpkin into the
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sweet potato because my mother was eating it. This is
and my tongue itches, my throat itches. I was like, wait,
what she said, what's the agreeing? She's like, wait, we
cooked everything else. And then she was like, what's the
agreedients on that pot? Because you started trying to figure
out what it was, and these bastard, don't snuck pumpkin
into this good Christian sweet potato pie. So that lets
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you know that they're trying to hide pumpkin. They try.
This is the cheese, you know this is they're trying
to put the broccoli in. Okay, just because you put cheese,
you put put cheese on the broccoli. Okay, that's what
this is. Stop making that face and making I'm making
that face because even in the example you're using, broccoli
is still a good thing. Broccoli is delicious. What I'm
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saying is that, but a lot of peop don't like broccoli.
People in Brussels Brows, like my big in college, she
doesn't like broccoli because she says it's like licking the afro.
I don't agree with that. I love broccoli. Also, I
have an afro. Um. Yeah, that's a genuinely and say
thing to me, Like I I kind of understand what
she's trying to say. But no, listen, I was eighteen
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at the time. It sounded crazy. Then I'm thirty nine.
It still sounds nuts. M But you know that's Aaron Kennedy. Okay.
I was not here for it. So all I'm saying
is that pumpkin is so disliked, it so understold that
they had to slide it and sneak it in as
a filler in a sweeper telling the pie. Because if
pumpkin was so good on its own, it wouldn't have
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had to slide it in there and try to kill
my mama. Listen, they should not have snuck in pumpkin
into a pie that was not supposed to be pumpkin.
I'm with you on that also, especially because people have allergies.
What I will say, how many times have you been
at a dinner. Have you been somewhere and you look
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at the table, and like you said, you you said,
look at the people, you'll know the type of pie.
But I'm saying, let's keep it on the pie for
a second. Let's keep it on the actual color and
hue of the pie. Okay, I look at a pie
that could be sweet potato or it could be pumpkin.
You can't tell me you know with a certainty which
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type of pie it is. You know, these pies are
very close, they're barely they're barely barely edging each other
out with homemade You can see the spices right which
store bought you're still on a sweepen Tata pie, you
can usually see the spice. You'll see a little bit
of the spice, right, But store pot pies is very
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hard to distinguish between the two because they do end
up being similar colors. But sweepen sat the pies usually darker.
But because of the spices, they're are more nutrients in
a sweet potato and sweet potatoes then there are in pumpkins. Now,
some people try to say that there are less there's
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less sugar and pumpkin pies versusweet potatoes. But I really
feel like they have to go down to just the
recipe because I don't. Of course it's gonna be less
sugar and a pumpkin pie. A sweet potato is sweet.
And also if you're sitting up typing in what is
a healthier pie? Um, yes, if you are at the
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pie section of the grocery store and go to google
which is the healthier pie, just take a step back
and realize it's all pie. It's all pie. So even
if you grabbed an apple, you're getting some sugar, you're
getting you're getting some pastry, you're getting some very buttery base. Listen,
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that's why people on Keto. I did not know the
people on Keto and stuff can't even have fruit. So
what is that? Because one of my friends just started
Keto and said that he can't have fruit, and what
why is that? I think Keto is just Atkins, It's
just South Beach. It's just one of those things. First
of all, when I started doing my first nutrition is
back inen, like, you know, I just working hard to
(06:26):
keep my neck. As you see, I have one. You
thought that girl was gonna lose her neck in a
panty dropper in a pandemic and a Panasonic in a
panorama and a Popeye's na bitch, any who's so? Yeah?
(06:47):
You know I put on my wearing my max, my
chin chillers. We all know this is very so just
because you bring a mink doesn't mean you're right. Okay,
don't don't do this thing now in future episodes where
try to dress up and then flex as if you
don't have to make your points and stuff, because because
that's so disrespectful to show up not give me any warning, right,
(07:11):
so already you don't say anything. You do, just let
me show up at a regular shirt. But that you're like,
I'm gonna bring a mink. This feels like what somebody
invite you to a party and don't tell you as
horrible because then you show up to make and then
you start talking down to me about my choices and
just feels like a set up. Listen, first of all,
this is from toward. This is not a make. This
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is very flammable. Okay, this is very flammable. This is
what the kids call the foe for all. Right. I
have I've I've acquired real only because I was bullied
into it. Okay, this is just because because of the
lights and the equipment in this room, you have to
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keep it chilly in here, otherwise I'd be buttass naked
by the end of this podcast every time we do it.
M So, no, I will judge you in anything, nigger.
I'll judge you in a wife feat. Okay, I will
judge you in somebody else's T shirt. So don't think
to me coming out here. Oh you didn't even and
it's on the slip on the sleeves. Don't come on, baby,
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Just because I'm wearing my pacho don't mean that I'm
not here for the judgeifying and critification. I'm always here
for the judge offying and the critification. You know that
I mean about me, Joshua. Okay, that's why we are
such friends. Could you try to act like that you
ain't here for the judge offying in the critification, but
you know you are here for the judge of fling
in the critification. Yeah. But I'm saying, don't rest on
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your laurels, all right, because I've seen it before. Sometimes
it happens with rappings. I don't even know who she is. Sometimes,
Oh my got, You're like, you're like true, you're like
truly a menas uh So I would college with your
(09:05):
name Laurel all the time. All right? What do you
mean there? There will be rappers who really come through
that first few albums and then they really get their
money up, and then they start wearing well and the
music suffers. All right? Are you trying to say that
my points are suffering because I was chilly? I'm saying
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they could in the future, all right. If we get okay,
that means that the next time we do this, I'm
gonna have to wear my fox, my crystal fox poncho,
and dunk on you the whole time. Why would you
make me do that? Why not let me sit out
here in my faue Furt and whatever fabric this is.
(09:48):
This is from Torrid. Okay, this was also free. They
said this to me, and I'm very excited about it.
But don't think. Don't think I'm very happy for you. Listen,
I've don't a Skims bra. I don't even know what
it's doing, but my titties aren't. I haven't gone song
for the winner. We're in here. I got three hooks
on the broad. Last time I three hooks on the
(10:09):
bra was a Clinton administration. What I'm saying is just
because your friend is out here wearing free, moderately priced clothing. Okay,
this shirt also from tore It also free. Shout out
to tour it. That's what I'm saying, is just because
your girl is trying to be wharm in my studio. Okay.
(10:34):
Does not mean that I cannot be making valid points.
I'm not saying. It doesn't mean that you're not making
valid points. I'm specifically saying, you know, just make sure
you always come through with the with the insane energy.
You know, the girl, I'm drinking out of a soup
cup that I punched the whole in for a straw.
So don't act like honestly, it's the best way for
(10:59):
me to keep up with my water or intake. Oh yeah, yeah,
because you know exactly the size of the cup. And yeah,
I'm with you. It was just fun. I don't know
why I like it. I like a big cup. Yeah,
but also the structure of the lid, you can really
like pinch the top right. And so because I have
had like this very fancy color changing like those really
(11:21):
like fancy cups that they have, like the double insulated,
I had one for my birthday. Would change colors and
you put like something ice cold in it, and then
one day I want to reach for it, fell out
of my fridge exploded. The fifteen bucks. This came with
one tan soup and it's strong as hell. So yeah,
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it's very strong. I can hear the ice from here. Yo.
My mom like I was like, I think a year
or two to do and stand up candle in the
open mics, and usually to make you change if you
have a glass glass, they make you change your plastic cup.
But they let my mom keep her glass because it's
my mom. And the comic went up and he was
(12:02):
bombing bombing, and my mom was like twirling, just sitting
there doing this and this guy goes, am, I getting
heckled by ice, and my mother goes, yes, yes you are.
I don't remember who that comic is because I don't
think I faw him again after that. I mean it's
(12:23):
not a few more times, but yes, he got heckled
by ice. He was doing that. That's either the origin
story of the next biggest comic in America or someone
who just started doing hedge found work because they were like,
this isn't for me. You know what, Well, Brian, what happened?
I went back and got my masters because I got
heckled by frozen water. This is not the profession I
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need to be in. But yeah, yeah, anytime it's quiet
enough that just the elements, or at play bro, ice
on glass, whatever, it's cold enough that you can just
hear wind outside. I want to get back to this
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topic at hand, because this this is like the State
of the Union address, Okay, And I understand, and I
also understand the history of why of why sweet potato
is a staple. I'm not disrespecting sweepertatil Pie. It's the ancestors, Joshua.
I'm just saying I'm saying for me, it is a
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forty nine to at. I love both of these pies.
Give pumpkin pie a fifty one, but I will steal
your shoes, still your new medical shoes, and saying that
it's slightly it's just out for me. Tell me how,
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Tell me how? Tell me think? I think that some
of the sweet potato pies I've had a specially the
ones that were homemade before, have had just not the
right texture because just like pumpkin sweet potato, if it's
too if it's too like soupy, if it's too you
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know what I mean, If it's too loose, ones going
in you barely have a pie. You've got like a
bunch of thick, thickened up soup and crust. Okay, you're
putting sweepotator pie it across. And it's not like a batter,
because the batter is a batter, and a batter we
know will hold to a spoon. It's like you're talking
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to someone. One year I made between Thanksgiving and Christmas,
I made thirty sweep with Tata bars. Oh you told
me about this, Yeah, And my mother was selling them,
and I supposed to give me the money or some
of the money, and then I never didn't get any
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of the money. She said. At one point I had
an allowance, but I never saw it. My mother bought
me a hand mixer because I used to make like
cakes and stuff, and my mom would sell them at
work and then the money would somehow, you just get
reinvested in the cakes. Right, So I was never paid
for my labor. But you know, I'm a black child.
So when was said make the cakes, I made the cakes, right.
And so I make cakes for the house or cakes
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for the friends, you know, aunties and stuff like that.
And so I was making sweet potato pies and I
was just mash. I was, you know, you cook them up.
I'm mashing straight sweet potatoes. I didn't like the mash
wheat like the you know, like a sweep like a
potato masher got the big holes in it. So it
wasn't doing the work that it needed to do to
get down to protect the consistency that I needed. I
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just had a little white plastic cup and I'm just
mushion and mushion and mushion. I mean this before we
had an electric mixer, so I just had two forks
and a strong erro bow. Okay out here breaking these pies,
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doubt and they were delicious. Okay I made but yeah,
probably between like thirty thirty five pies between Christmas and Thanksgiving.
And I was like, I still have to go to school.
I was like mamma's child like, but she said, well,
I'm I'm stilling the mat work. I was like, and
I was one. I was like, mommy sawd out of pie.
She said yeah. I said, oh, how much did you
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make of selling the pride? She's like, what do you mean,
Mommy and my allowns, Oh, we gotta make more pies. Okay,
I'm not gonna that's an early lesson and which was
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wild because like I had like other businesses and she
I was like, I don't know what it was. I
think eventually she gave me like a couple of bucks
and you have like thirty five dollars. But I'm just
like I've a dollar a pie. And she's like, you know, Christmas,
which is not actual reason. That's what does a black
parents really gave you great reasoning on stuff before. I
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will say this is what happened to me to explain
so that you see where I'm coming from. Yeah, because
I have much nostalgia. I've got flavor. This is a
family recipe. But I've all said others people say the
pies like list like people in my family can cook, right,
So if you're coming from an experience where people were
making homemade pies that were either too wet or too dry,
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or they're not doing what they need to be doing,
they're not doing what the kids say, giving what they
need to give. I understand that you would have these
instances were like I'm an a particularly fan of this
because oh press experience, like I to this day can't
eat a running egg because they made us paranoid or
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raw food. Yeah, yeah, that's true. So like first of all,
just the salmonilla and eggs. It's like for you know,
because was not for black people. We did That's why
we had steaks well done and stuff like that, but
that comes from a history of us being sold the
worst quality meat. So if you didn't have it cooked
all the way, you'd get sick. Right. So I'm just
now learning to get that this was out of a
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necessity and not because of this, Like that's why we
see and stuff because we didn't have the best quality meat. Also,
that's just genetic, so you can understand that you've had
experience where you're like, so for me, hey, that that's
exactly it. It's like in life, I have had great
homemade Sweepertato pies. I've had good store bought Sweepertaio pies.
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But I've also had bad Sweepertaio pies so far in
my life. Even though it doesn't quite it doesn't quite
out edge the best Sweepertato pie I've ever had. I've
never had a bad pumpkin pie, mainly because they've been
store bought, but have some homemade pumpkin pies that were good. Okay,
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so you had more homemade Sweepertata pies. You have something
pumpkin pies? Yes? And okayd you it hit wrong a
few too many times. You want to talk about running egg. Yeah,
if you cut into a pie like that and there's
any type of liquid and it gives up, I can't say.
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The thing that always confused me about Sweepertata pies is
that when you make a sweepstada piecase are like a
blender or something, there are strings in it. It's a
fibrous vegetable. I've never understood a lot of time when
you have the pie. Where did the strings go? I
guess they just cook out or well, I think they
just really get as close to dissolving as they can.
(19:45):
I know. But that is the thing that I always
confused me as a weak girl and as a girl
and adult lady. Um. Also, I think I'm confused about
pumpkin pie because I've just never enjoyed the flavor of sawdust.
So I guess I just can't what wow, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, what? No?
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What you know exactly what you did? You would be
looking up like that if you didn't know what you did.
A real one is like what you did? What? God? No? No, no, no,
It's fine, it's fine. What does it? Because the thing is,
it's like, I feel like the spices you put in
a pumpkin I can tell you I've had a pumpkin
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spice beverage and had to slice the pumpkin pie, and
it doesn't seem like any of the spices that were
in a pumpkin spice beverage, or even the spices that
you're smelling a pumpkin spice candle don't end up in
a pumpkin pie. So where do these spices get put
not always, not always, so some of them do. Some
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of them have like a special you know, whether it's
topped with a little bit of whipped cream and then
some pumpkin spice on that cream, or whether they hoped
the entire pie with the spice of spice to be
mixed in. No, it is, it is, it is. You're
not wrong. I'm just telling you where the spice goes. Sometimes,
because I felt like that was the question. It was
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now what I can't listen. What I really wish we
could debate, which I don't think we'll ever have enough
people to do, is super tato pie versus a bean pie.
That I yeah, I don't know if we'll ever really
get there, because first of all, I'd have to eat
both in the same week er day to really like
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fresh refresh the Palett's memory. And then we'd also have
to really go in on second, are you gonna get facts?
What the hell was that sail? That's the door for
my apartment? Oh? I was like, Josh, and fact is
over there anything doing real business? Uh? You know, maybe
(21:58):
one day, maybe, maybe in the future, if we're blessed.
The last time I sent the facts and I was
trying to send in my time sheet to work. So
I work for a tip agency. You have to eatch
your time sheet signed. And then they were just every Friday.
They were just for somebody who would round up everybody's
time sheets and then we have to get them sign
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and then facts them, and I just every time going.
We have the internet, we have an email, you know,
what are we doing this or something like well, it
don't fact them, just scan them into one fire And
I'm like, why, Yeah, everybody knows I logged into a
system to fucking be here. Why am I facting anybody?
The facts machine was also kind of cool when you
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think about it, because it was just like technology when
it was at the top. Yeah, yeah, like we had,
like we used to be able to get a printer
facts scanner. You would have a fact machine at your house.
And I was like, I don't know why we need this,
but we're gonna need it, and when we do need it,
it's gonna be great. Because my mom used to at
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Kinko's if so many people would come in having a
fact something, if you don't know what we are talking about,
that means you're probably under thirty two. Yeah, wait, Josh,
I want you hey, right on the line, baby, Joshua
just made it. He might even use the rotary phone before,
(23:22):
not not not quickly, but yes, well we want to
kick this to you, the listener. I'm I listened, I
stayed on. Tests didn't not because you never proved all
it was better. All you said was I've had bad
homemade people tator pies, so pumpkin is better. Yeah, thats
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at what point were we supposed to come through with data?
All right, say that's a week. That's a weak argument.
That's a weak argument. They look almost identical. They have
the same texture, all right. That is not true. The
texture of a sweeper tang tooe or pulpicat pie is
the same. You know how a friend in college you
(24:11):
wouldn't eat, uh like apple or peach or anything like
that because she didn't like cook fruit. It's all the sort.
The same girl that said celery is just crunchy water.
So so she's a real country too. I never understood, like, yeah,
she was a black girl that was so country that
(24:32):
she wore Dixie outfitter shirts. I don't know if this
person is an innovator or has been left so far
behind like this is this is This is someone who
we either need to be researching and taking notes from,
or we need to be researching and avoiding the thoughts
(24:53):
of I can't tell you that her name was a
conversation of her mom and daddy's name. So whenever you
get one of them said suations, then I hope she's
doing well. I hope she lived the life she wants
to live, serving to God. She wants to serve um.
I just was like, but apple a pumpkin. Listen. I
do have a quick question, though, how do you feel
(25:14):
about Cobbler? You know what? That's a different episode. I can't,
but I can say that I think this hits home
on I think because sweeoul say them pumpkin pies, because
they come out when they come out, right, especially pumpkin
being the one trick pony that it is, you know,
(25:38):
getting your little jabs in whenever you can. I'm sure
it feels good sitting up there with your minx. All right, No, no, no,
I get it. I get it's called a fink. Thank you, Okayn,
think whatever you want to call it. I see I
see you there, all right, see you talking down on
(26:01):
the pumpkins. I see you and all your hubris are
humorous at all of hubrius. Possibly be wrong. The sweeper
say that out here living a year round life. Okay,
(26:21):
they are doing so much with the sweet potato. They're
turning it into chips. Okay, there we are roasting them.
We are making them a summertime salad situation because sweet
potatoes out here doing the work that pumpkin could never
do this. How about maybe pumpkin is out here once
a year because it's not common, it's not cheap. Okay,
(26:43):
it's it's a selective. It's a selective. It's a selective spice.
It's a selective. Okay, you have to listen. You can't
keep bringing up the spices. You can't keep bring up
with spices, because pumpkin spice is not made out of pumpkin.
It is made to season pumpkin. What's used to season
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the sweet potato, nutmeg, and other regular things that you
put in a pie. So I feel like this is
a moot point as far as getting spiced. We're gonna
see what's in pumpkin spice, all right, pumpkin pie spice.
I was on pumpkin spices and American spice mix, commonly
used as a flavoring from pumpkin pie, but does not
include pumpkin as ingredient. There's no pumpkin in it, so
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it's generally a blend of ground cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, clothes,
and sometimes allspice. Okay, now do you are you? Because
basically a lot of those spices are the same ones
that go in sweet potato pie. So if the spice
profile is the same, then what's giving you the flavor
(27:53):
is the actual vegetable itself, because at the end of
the day, we have to remember these are vegetable pies.
Yeah we picked somebody sat up and was like, okay,
that vegetable. But because there's no regular potato, we're not
doing this with a regular potato. M h. We're not
doing this with butternut squash. We found whatever works. Rhubarb
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is just red celery, and I'm still not sure what
we do with that. Because we're doing the same spices.
That means that is the flavor of the sweet potato
or the pumpkin itself, and it's delicious. I think I've
made my position clear. I'm not saying one is trash
and one is amazing. I'm saying that it slightly edges
(28:37):
it out for me because of my past experiences, and
now I want to hear from you, the listener. What
do you think? Or do you go pumpkin? Do you
go sweet Potato? All right, I'm not gonna judge you
and act like you're crazy for picking either one. This
isn't a situation where duels and I are diametrically opposed.
I'm just saying, no, this is how I feel. I
(28:58):
think pumpkin pie is all ful. You like both of them? Yeah,
that's where we are, but I wasn't. We're not at
a thing where we both think the other ones as trash,
is what I'm saying. We've had much more heated debates
about the thing than this one. You know, there are
things that you like that I hate, and we've proven
(29:19):
that you were wrong on all of those fronts. Grills
are trash, all right, Grills are terrible. What Why are
you going against people who are blessed? The chain is
perfectly fine show the people you're blessed without having to
you know, the gold entire mouth. Oh yeah, listen, m hmm,
(29:45):
I'm listening better. There's so many ways to display that
you're doing all right. Right, there's nothing. This is the
best part of the grill is the fact that it's removable. Okay,
it's not a permanent goal to have to say, then
uncle in the eighties, all right, you know, selling crack,
destroying your neighborhood, and a new leather jacket and a
BMW chain is even more easily removable. I've seen I've
(30:09):
seen grills get stuck. Listen, we were in chains for
so long, Josh, wow, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on. I'll actually agree with that. I don't actually
agree with that. What people who were like how that
the argument against chains were just like I would never
wear something that would Bobby, You're like, bro shut up.
(30:30):
If you're broke, you're broke. Don't act like that. You
don't wear a chain. That's kind of thing. That's a
big They'll be all the intercob in Brooklyn talking about
they had us in the chain, and now you want
to buy the chain so you can wear the chain
in front of the people that put us in the chains. Right,
And it gives me the same energy as like, look,
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if you want to chain, what you're gonna have to do,
what you have to lay down, what you do, you
have to put it in that time. You got to
put in that sweat. The chain is made of sweat,
all right, Sweat poured together turns to gold because that's
the grind, damn it. Yeah, I gotta make sure that
(31:13):
I don't say anything. Yeah, yeah, just up every episode
you've been really so, what sweet potato things? How can
I grind to turn these sweet potatoes in the diamonds, Joshua,
Tell the people, Tell the people how they can be
out there using these pies. Look, let me tell you something.
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If you're sweet potato pie is not turning to gold,
you haven't put the oven up high enough. Okay, all right.
And if you can't put your oven up any higher,
you need to grind until you get a better of
until you get that stay of art, until you get
that new new Okay. I don't, I don't. I don't
(31:55):
understand why people are out here still asking these questions
when the books already and written. I hate this guy.
Just look, just grind, just work, and it'll all work out. Okay,
This new josh has too much power. Oh my god, listen.
(32:16):
I know this is a highly contentious, highly debated cultural
argument and needs here United States of America, cup, But
just know, stick with your people, Okay, stick with your people.
If you're out here supporting sides, you know you have
(32:37):
no business supporting. That's between you and your mama. Okay,
But just know who you are, where are you coming from,
and make sure you support the right side. You can
your opinion. You can think what you want to thank,
but you know what you're wrong. And just so you
(32:58):
know you can, you can be with your people. You
can love and support your people without going with the herd. Okay.
So if you if you your life where something did
you a little dirty and you love it as much
as other people, that's okay too, all right, that's all
right too. Okay. If you if you've been done truly
(33:19):
dirty by a pastry and you don't really love it
the way that other people love it, you don't know
how that it's good. You just say, hey, I'm out here,
I've had different experience, all right, I'm saying respect that
maybe my experience comes to the fact that pumpkin trying
to kill my mama, okay, and it's been trying to
kill my mama since they one. So we just want
(33:46):
to thank you for listening to hold up. Yeah, we're
the only two tellers in the world, two tellers in
the world, were the only ones talking about what needs
to be talked about. Pumpkins, plantains, lasagna. Okay, we're the
only ones telling people why club bangers are better than
anything that's out in the streets right now. That's not
(34:06):
what we said. That's exactly what that's that's what we're
talking about. That's what we're talking about. Look at these episodes,
go back, find find your way. Okay, get your scorecard together. Okay,
get your hold up scorecard together, and see where you stand.
Are you on the right side of history or do
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you agree with Josh. That's what you have to figure out.
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Let us know. Hey, I'm Josh Johnson running for The
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Daily Show, and this is hold Up. I'm here with
my co host. Today's topic is sweet potato pie versus
pumpkin pie. And tell the people. Let them know. First
of all, I'm a good person. Okay, so you know
for a fact that I picked sweet Savor because it
(00:48):
ain't no way on God's blue marble that I'm gonna
act like that. I Am going to be eating something
that for car and faces too. Okay. The only time
anybody messes with that vegetable, with that squash, Okay, with
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that ground dwelling vine climbing orange vegetables from November to
do something people ain't thinking about pumpkin the rest of
the year. It's like, oh, pumpkin spice. Pumpkin spice is
not made for pumpkins. It's just nutmeg, it's and made
other stuff. It's just the season that we put on pumpkin.
And also we call it pumpkin spice. But I've had
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a pumpkin pie, and pumpkin spices ain't in that pie.
The spices ain't good. And don't act like, oh, they're
equal to each other. Oh you know that, we can't.
You can't even tell. You can tell. Look at who's
at that party, look at who's at this kid together. Okay,
whatever the majority is, that's what that pie is. That's
(01:51):
what that pie is. I'll just say. I'll just say
and and and so my mother is allergic to pumpkin, right,
and so we gotta sweep potato pipe from the store
one time, I guess this was in Atlanta, and the
pumpkin wasn't selling. They had snucked the pumpkin into the
(02:17):
sweet potato because my mother was eating it. This is
and my tongue itches, my throat itches. I was like, wait,
what she said, what's the agreeing? She's like, wait, we
cooked everything else. And then she was like, what's the
agreedients on that pot? Because you started trying to figure
out what it was, and these bastard, don't snuck pumpkin
into this good Christian sweet potato pie. So that lets
(02:38):
you know that they're trying to hide pumpkin. They try.
This is the cheese, you know this is they're trying
to put the broccoli in. Okay, just because you put cheese,
you put put cheese on the broccoli. Okay, that's what
this is. Stop making that face and making I'm making
that face because even in the example you're using, broccoli
is still a good thing. Broccoli is delicious. What I'm
(02:58):
saying is that, but a lot of peop don't like broccoli.
People in Brussels Brows, like my big in college, she
doesn't like broccoli because she says it's like licking the afro.
I don't agree with that. I love broccoli. Also, I
have an afro. Um. Yeah, that's a genuinely and say
thing to me, Like I I kind of understand what
she's trying to say. But no, listen, I was eighteen
(03:21):
at the time. It sounded crazy. Then I'm thirty nine.
It still sounds nuts. M But you know that's Aaron Kennedy. Okay.
I was not here for it. So all I'm saying
is that pumpkin is so disliked, it so understold that
they had to slide it and sneak it in as
a filler in a sweeper telling the pie. Because if
pumpkin was so good on its own, it wouldn't have
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had to slide it in there and try to kill
my mama. Listen, they should not have snuck in pumpkin
into a pie that was not supposed to be pumpkin.
I'm with you on that also, especially because people have allergies.
What I will say, how many times have you been
at a dinner. Have you been somewhere and you look
(04:04):
at the table, and like you said, you you said,
look at the people, you'll know the type of pie.
But I'm saying, let's keep it on the pie for
a second. Let's keep it on the actual color and
hue of the pie. Okay, I look at a pie
that could be sweet potato or it could be pumpkin.
You can't tell me you know with a certainty which
(04:26):
type of pie it is. You know, these pies are
very close, they're barely they're barely barely edging each other
out with homemade You can see the spices right which
store bought you're still on a sweepen Tata pie, you
can usually see the spice. You'll see a little bit
of the spice, right, But store pot pies is very
(04:49):
hard to distinguish between the two because they do end
up being similar colors. But sweepen sat the pies usually darker.
But because of the spices, they're are more nutrients in
a sweet potato and sweet potatoes then there are in pumpkins. Now,
some people try to say that there are less there's
(05:10):
less sugar and pumpkin pies versusweet potatoes. But I really
feel like they have to go down to just the
recipe because I don't. Of course it's gonna be less
sugar and a pumpkin pie. A sweet potato is sweet.
And also if you're sitting up typing in what is
a healthier pie? Um, yes, if you are at the
(05:42):
pie section of the grocery store and go to google
which is the healthier pie, just take a step back
and realize it's all pie. It's all pie. So even
if you grabbed an apple, you're getting some sugar, you're
getting you're getting some pastry, you're getting some very buttery base. Listen,
(06:04):
that's why people on Keto. I did not know the
people on Keto and stuff can't even have fruit. So
what is that? Because one of my friends just started
Keto and said that he can't have fruit, and what
why is that? I think Keto is just Atkins, It's
just South Beach. It's just one of those things. First
of all, when I started doing my first nutrition is
back inen, like, you know, I just working hard to
(06:26):
keep my neck. As you see, I have one. You
thought that girl was gonna lose her neck in a
panty dropper in a pandemic and a Panasonic in a
panorama and a Popeye's na bitch, any who's so? Yeah?
(06:47):
You know I put on my wearing my max, my
chin chillers. We all know this is very so just
because you bring a mink doesn't mean you're right. Okay,
don't don't do this thing now in future episodes where
try to dress up and then flex as if you
don't have to make your points and stuff, because because
that's so disrespectful to show up not give me any warning, right,
(07:11):
so already you don't say anything. You do, just let
me show up at a regular shirt. But that you're like,
I'm gonna bring a mink. This feels like what somebody
invite you to a party and don't tell you as
horrible because then you show up to make and then
you start talking down to me about my choices and
just feels like a set up. Listen, first of all,
this is from toward. This is not a make. This
(07:33):
is very flammable. Okay, this is very flammable. This is
what the kids call the foe for all. Right. I
have I've I've acquired real only because I was bullied
into it. Okay, this is just because because of the
lights and the equipment in this room, you have to
(07:54):
keep it chilly in here, otherwise I'd be buttass naked
by the end of this podcast every time we do it.
M So, no, I will judge you in anything, nigger.
I'll judge you in a wife feat. Okay, I will
judge you in somebody else's T shirt. So don't think
to me coming out here. Oh you didn't even and
it's on the slip on the sleeves. Don't come on, baby,
(08:17):
Just because I'm wearing my pacho don't mean that I'm
not here for the judgeifying and critification. I'm always here
for the judge offying and the critification. You know that
I mean about me, Joshua. Okay, that's why we are
such friends. Could you try to act like that you
ain't here for the judge offying in the critification, but
you know you are here for the judge of fling
in the critification. Yeah. But I'm saying, don't rest on
(08:40):
your laurels, all right, because I've seen it before. Sometimes
it happens with rappings. I don't even know who she is. Sometimes,
Oh my got, You're like, you're like true, you're like
truly a menas uh So I would college with your
(09:05):
name Laurel all the time. All right? What do you
mean there? There will be rappers who really come through
that first few albums and then they really get their
money up, and then they start wearing well and the
music suffers. All right? Are you trying to say that
my points are suffering because I was chilly? I'm saying
(09:27):
they could in the future, all right. If we get okay,
that means that the next time we do this, I'm
gonna have to wear my fox, my crystal fox poncho,
and dunk on you the whole time. Why would you
make me do that? Why not let me sit out
here in my faue Furt and whatever fabric this is.
(09:48):
This is from Torrid. Okay, this was also free. They
said this to me, and I'm very excited about it.
But don't think. Don't think I'm very happy for you. Listen,
I've don't a Skims bra. I don't even know what
it's doing, but my titties aren't. I haven't gone song
for the winner. We're in here. I got three hooks
on the broad. Last time I three hooks on the
(10:09):
bra was a Clinton administration. What I'm saying is just
because your friend is out here wearing free, moderately priced clothing. Okay,
this shirt also from tore It also free. Shout out
to tour it. That's what I'm saying, is just because
your girl is trying to be wharm in my studio. Okay.
(10:34):
Does not mean that I cannot be making valid points.
I'm not saying. It doesn't mean that you're not making
valid points. I'm specifically saying, you know, just make sure
you always come through with the with the insane energy.
You know, the girl, I'm drinking out of a soup
cup that I punched the whole in for a straw.
So don't act like honestly, it's the best way for
(10:59):
me to keep up with my water or intake. Oh yeah, yeah,
because you know exactly the size of the cup. And yeah,
I'm with you. It was just fun. I don't know
why I like it. I like a big cup. Yeah,
but also the structure of the lid, you can really
like pinch the top right. And so because I have
had like this very fancy color changing like those really
(11:21):
like fancy cups that they have, like the double insulated,
I had one for my birthday. Would change colors and
you put like something ice cold in it, and then
one day I want to reach for it, fell out
of my fridge exploded. The fifteen bucks. This came with
one tan soup and it's strong as hell. So yeah,
(11:41):
it's very strong. I can hear the ice from here. Yo.
My mom like I was like, I think a year
or two to do and stand up candle in the
open mics, and usually to make you change if you
have a glass glass, they make you change your plastic cup.
But they let my mom keep her glass because it's
my mom. And the comic went up and he was
(12:02):
bombing bombing, and my mom was like twirling, just sitting
there doing this and this guy goes, am, I getting
heckled by ice, and my mother goes, yes, yes you are.
I don't remember who that comic is because I don't
think I faw him again after that. I mean it's
(12:23):
not a few more times, but yes, he got heckled
by ice. He was doing that. That's either the origin
story of the next biggest comic in America or someone
who just started doing hedge found work because they were like,
this isn't for me. You know what, Well, Brian, what happened?
I went back and got my masters because I got
heckled by frozen water. This is not the profession I
(12:44):
need to be in. But yeah, yeah, anytime it's quiet
enough that just the elements, or at play bro, ice
on glass, whatever, it's cold enough that you can just
hear wind outside. I want to get back to this
(13:08):
topic at hand, because this this is like the State
of the Union address, Okay, And I understand, and I
also understand the history of why of why sweet potato
is a staple. I'm not disrespecting sweepertatil Pie. It's the ancestors, Joshua.
I'm just saying I'm saying for me, it is a
(13:33):
forty nine to at. I love both of these pies.
Give pumpkin pie a fifty one, but I will steal
your shoes, still your new medical shoes, and saying that
it's slightly it's just out for me. Tell me how,
(13:53):
Tell me how? Tell me think? I think that some
of the sweet potato pies I've had a specially the
ones that were homemade before, have had just not the
right texture because just like pumpkin sweet potato, if it's
too if it's too like soupy, if it's too you
(14:14):
know what I mean, If it's too loose, ones going
in you barely have a pie. You've got like a
bunch of thick, thickened up soup and crust. Okay, you're
putting sweepotator pie it across. And it's not like a batter,
because the batter is a batter, and a batter we
know will hold to a spoon. It's like you're talking
(14:35):
to someone. One year I made between Thanksgiving and Christmas,
I made thirty sweep with Tata bars. Oh you told
me about this, Yeah, And my mother was selling them,
and I supposed to give me the money or some
of the money, and then I never didn't get any
(14:56):
of the money. She said. At one point I had
an allowance, but I never saw it. My mother bought
me a hand mixer because I used to make like
cakes and stuff, and my mom would sell them at
work and then the money would somehow, you just get
reinvested in the cakes. Right, So I was never paid
for my labor. But you know, I'm a black child.
So when was said make the cakes, I made the cakes, right.
And so I make cakes for the house or cakes
(15:18):
for the friends, you know, aunties and stuff like that.
And so I was making sweet potato pies and I
was just mash. I was, you know, you cook them up.
I'm mashing straight sweet potatoes. I didn't like the mash
wheat like the you know, like a sweep like a
potato masher got the big holes in it. So it
wasn't doing the work that it needed to do to
get down to protect the consistency that I needed. I
(15:40):
just had a little white plastic cup and I'm just
mushion and mushion and mushion. I mean this before we
had an electric mixer, so I just had two forks
and a strong erro bow. Okay out here breaking these pies,
(16:01):
doubt and they were delicious. Okay I made but yeah,
probably between like thirty thirty five pies between Christmas and Thanksgiving.
And I was like, I still have to go to school.
I was like mamma's child like, but she said, well,
I'm I'm stilling the mat work. I was like, and
I was one. I was like, mommy sawd out of pie.
She said yeah. I said, oh, how much did you
(16:23):
make of selling the pride? She's like, what do you mean,
Mommy and my allowns, Oh, we gotta make more pies. Okay,
I'm not gonna that's an early lesson and which was
(16:44):
wild because like I had like other businesses and she
I was like, I don't know what it was. I
think eventually she gave me like a couple of bucks
and you have like thirty five dollars. But I'm just
like I've a dollar a pie. And she's like, you know, Christmas,
which is not actual reason. That's what does a black
parents really gave you great reasoning on stuff before. I
(17:07):
will say this is what happened to me to explain
so that you see where I'm coming from. Yeah, because
I have much nostalgia. I've got flavor. This is a
family recipe. But I've all said others people say the
pies like list like people in my family can cook, right,
So if you're coming from an experience where people were
making homemade pies that were either too wet or too dry,
(17:32):
or they're not doing what they need to be doing,
they're not doing what the kids say, giving what they
need to give. I understand that you would have these
instances were like I'm an a particularly fan of this
because oh press experience, like I to this day can't
eat a running egg because they made us paranoid or
(17:53):
raw food. Yeah, yeah, that's true. So like first of all,
just the salmonilla and eggs. It's like for you know,
because was not for black people. We did That's why
we had steaks well done and stuff like that, but
that comes from a history of us being sold the
worst quality meat. So if you didn't have it cooked
all the way, you'd get sick. Right. So I'm just
now learning to get that this was out of a
(18:15):
necessity and not because of this, Like that's why we
see and stuff because we didn't have the best quality meat. Also,
that's just genetic, so you can understand that you've had
experience where you're like, so for me, hey, that that's
exactly it. It's like in life, I have had great
homemade Sweepertato pies. I've had good store bought Sweepertaio pies.
(18:38):
But I've also had bad Sweepertaio pies so far in
my life. Even though it doesn't quite it doesn't quite
out edge the best Sweepertato pie I've ever had. I've
never had a bad pumpkin pie, mainly because they've been
store bought, but have some homemade pumpkin pies that were good. Okay,
(18:59):
so you had more homemade Sweepertata pies. You have something
pumpkin pies? Yes? And okayd you it hit wrong a
few too many times. You want to talk about running egg. Yeah,
if you cut into a pie like that and there's
any type of liquid and it gives up, I can't say.
(19:23):
The thing that always confused me about Sweepertata pies is
that when you make a sweepstada piecase are like a
blender or something, there are strings in it. It's a
fibrous vegetable. I've never understood a lot of time when
you have the pie. Where did the strings go? I
guess they just cook out or well, I think they
just really get as close to dissolving as they can.
(19:45):
I know. But that is the thing that I always
confused me as a weak girl and as a girl
and adult lady. Um. Also, I think I'm confused about
pumpkin pie because I've just never enjoyed the flavor of sawdust.
So I guess I just can't what wow, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, what? No?
(20:08):
What you know exactly what you did? You would be
looking up like that if you didn't know what you did.
A real one is like what you did? What? God? No? No, no, no,
It's fine, it's fine. What does it? Because the thing is,
it's like, I feel like the spices you put in
a pumpkin I can tell you I've had a pumpkin
(20:30):
spice beverage and had to slice the pumpkin pie, and
it doesn't seem like any of the spices that were
in a pumpkin spice beverage, or even the spices that
you're smelling a pumpkin spice candle don't end up in
a pumpkin pie. So where do these spices get put
not always, not always, so some of them do. Some
(20:52):
of them have like a special you know, whether it's
topped with a little bit of whipped cream and then
some pumpkin spice on that cream, or whether they hoped
the entire pie with the spice of spice to be
mixed in. No, it is, it is, it is. You're
not wrong. I'm just telling you where the spice goes. Sometimes,
because I felt like that was the question. It was
(21:14):
now what I can't listen. What I really wish we
could debate, which I don't think we'll ever have enough
people to do, is super tato pie versus a bean pie.
That I yeah, I don't know if we'll ever really
get there, because first of all, I'd have to eat
both in the same week er day to really like
(21:35):
fresh refresh the Palett's memory. And then we'd also have
to really go in on second, are you gonna get facts?
What the hell was that sail? That's the door for
my apartment? Oh? I was like, Josh, and fact is
over there anything doing real business? Uh? You know, maybe
(21:58):
one day, maybe, maybe in the future, if we're blessed.
The last time I sent the facts and I was
trying to send in my time sheet to work. So
I work for a tip agency. You have to eatch
your time sheet signed. And then they were just every Friday.
They were just for somebody who would round up everybody's
time sheets and then we have to get them sign
(22:18):
and then facts them, and I just every time going.
We have the internet, we have an email, you know,
what are we doing this or something like well, it
don't fact them, just scan them into one fire And
I'm like, why, Yeah, everybody knows I logged into a
system to fucking be here. Why am I facting anybody?
The facts machine was also kind of cool when you
(22:39):
think about it, because it was just like technology when
it was at the top. Yeah, yeah, like we had,
like we used to be able to get a printer
facts scanner. You would have a fact machine at your house.
And I was like, I don't know why we need this,
but we're gonna need it, and when we do need it,
it's gonna be great. Because my mom used to at
(23:00):
Kinko's if so many people would come in having a
fact something, if you don't know what we are talking about,
that means you're probably under thirty two. Yeah, wait, Josh,
I want you hey, right on the line, baby, Joshua
just made it. He might even use the rotary phone before,
(23:22):
not not not quickly, but yes, well we want to
kick this to you, the listener. I'm I listened, I
stayed on. Tests didn't not because you never proved all
it was better. All you said was I've had bad
homemade people tator pies, so pumpkin is better. Yeah, thats
(23:46):
at what point were we supposed to come through with data?
All right, say that's a week. That's a weak argument.
That's a weak argument. They look almost identical. They have
the same texture, all right. That is not true. The
texture of a sweeper tang tooe or pulpicat pie is
the same. You know how a friend in college you
(24:11):
wouldn't eat, uh like apple or peach or anything like
that because she didn't like cook fruit. It's all the sort.
The same girl that said celery is just crunchy water.
So so she's a real country too. I never understood, like, yeah,
she was a black girl that was so country that
(24:32):
she wore Dixie outfitter shirts. I don't know if this
person is an innovator or has been left so far
behind like this is this is This is someone who
we either need to be researching and taking notes from,
or we need to be researching and avoiding the thoughts
(24:53):
of I can't tell you that her name was a
conversation of her mom and daddy's name. So whenever you
get one of them said suations, then I hope she's
doing well. I hope she lived the life she wants
to live, serving to God. She wants to serve um.
I just was like, but apple a pumpkin. Listen. I
do have a quick question, though, how do you feel
(25:14):
about Cobbler? You know what? That's a different episode. I can't,
but I can say that I think this hits home
on I think because sweeoul say them pumpkin pies, because
they come out when they come out, right, especially pumpkin
being the one trick pony that it is, you know,
(25:38):
getting your little jabs in whenever you can. I'm sure
it feels good sitting up there with your minx. All right, No, no, no,
I get it. I get it's called a fink. Thank you, Okayn,
think whatever you want to call it. I see I
see you there, all right, see you talking down on
(26:01):
the pumpkins. I see you and all your hubris are
humorous at all of hubrius. Possibly be wrong. The sweeper
say that out here living a year round life. Okay,
(26:21):
they are doing so much with the sweet potato. They're
turning it into chips. Okay, there we are roasting them.
We are making them a summertime salad situation because sweet
potatoes out here doing the work that pumpkin could never
do this. How about maybe pumpkin is out here once
a year because it's not common, it's not cheap. Okay,
(26:43):
it's it's a selective. It's a selective. It's a selective spice.
It's a selective. Okay, you have to listen. You can't
keep bringing up the spices. You can't keep bring up
with spices, because pumpkin spice is not made out of pumpkin.
It is made to season pumpkin. What's used to season
(27:04):
the sweet potato, nutmeg, and other regular things that you
put in a pie. So I feel like this is
a moot point as far as getting spiced. We're gonna
see what's in pumpkin spice, all right, pumpkin pie spice.
I was on pumpkin spices and American spice mix, commonly
used as a flavoring from pumpkin pie, but does not
include pumpkin as ingredient. There's no pumpkin in it, so
(27:29):
it's generally a blend of ground cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, clothes,
and sometimes allspice. Okay, now do you are you? Because
basically a lot of those spices are the same ones
that go in sweet potato pie. So if the spice
profile is the same, then what's giving you the flavor
(27:53):
is the actual vegetable itself, because at the end of
the day, we have to remember these are vegetable pies.
Yeah we picked somebody sat up and was like, okay,
that vegetable. But because there's no regular potato, we're not
doing this with a regular potato. M h. We're not
doing this with butternut squash. We found whatever works. Rhubarb
(28:15):
is just red celery, and I'm still not sure what
we do with that. Because we're doing the same spices.
That means that is the flavor of the sweet potato
or the pumpkin itself, and it's delicious. I think I've
made my position clear. I'm not saying one is trash
and one is amazing. I'm saying that it slightly edges
(28:37):
it out for me because of my past experiences, and
now I want to hear from you, the listener. What
do you think? Or do you go pumpkin? Do you
go sweet Potato? All right, I'm not gonna judge you
and act like you're crazy for picking either one. This
isn't a situation where duels and I are diametrically opposed.
I'm just saying, no, this is how I feel. I
(28:58):
think pumpkin pie is all ful. You like both of them? Yeah,
that's where we are, but I wasn't. We're not at
a thing where we both think the other ones as trash,
is what I'm saying. We've had much more heated debates
about the thing than this one. You know, there are
things that you like that I hate, and we've proven
(29:19):
that you were wrong on all of those fronts. Grills
are trash, all right, Grills are terrible. What Why are
you going against people who are blessed? The chain is
perfectly fine show the people you're blessed without having to
you know, the gold entire mouth. Oh yeah, listen, m hmm,
(29:45):
I'm listening better. There's so many ways to display that
you're doing all right. Right, there's nothing. This is the
best part of the grill is the fact that it's removable. Okay,
it's not a permanent goal to have to say, then
uncle in the eighties, all right, you know, selling crack,
destroying your neighborhood, and a new leather jacket and a
BMW chain is even more easily removable. I've seen I've
(30:09):
seen grills get stuck. Listen, we were in chains for
so long, Josh, wow, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on. I'll actually agree with that. I don't actually
agree with that. What people who were like how that
the argument against chains were just like I would never
wear something that would Bobby, You're like, bro shut up.
(30:30):
If you're broke, you're broke. Don't act like that. You
don't wear a chain. That's kind of thing. That's a
big They'll be all the intercob in Brooklyn talking about
they had us in the chain, and now you want
to buy the chain so you can wear the chain
in front of the people that put us in the chains. Right,
And it gives me the same energy as like, look,
(30:53):
if you want to chain, what you're gonna have to do,
what you have to lay down, what you do, you
have to put it in that time. You got to
put in that sweat. The chain is made of sweat,
all right, Sweat poured together turns to gold because that's
the grind, damn it. Yeah, I gotta make sure that
(31:13):
I don't say anything. Yeah, yeah, just up every episode
you've been really so, what sweet potato things? How can
I grind to turn these sweet potatoes in the diamonds, Joshua,
Tell the people, Tell the people how they can be
out there using these pies. Look, let me tell you something.
(31:35):
If you're sweet potato pie is not turning to gold,
you haven't put the oven up high enough. Okay, all right.
And if you can't put your oven up any higher,
you need to grind until you get a better of
until you get that stay of art, until you get
that new new Okay. I don't, I don't. I don't
(31:55):
understand why people are out here still asking these questions
when the books already and written. I hate this guy.
Just look, just grind, just work, and it'll all work out. Okay,
This new josh has too much power. Oh my god, listen.
(32:16):
I know this is a highly contentious, highly debated cultural
argument and needs here United States of America, cup, But
just know, stick with your people, Okay, stick with your people.
If you're out here supporting sides, you know you have
(32:37):
no business supporting. That's between you and your mama. Okay,
But just know who you are, where are you coming from,
and make sure you support the right side. You can
your opinion. You can think what you want to thank,
but you know what you're wrong. And just so you
(32:58):
know you can, you can be with your people. You
can love and support your people without going with the herd. Okay.
So if you if you your life where something did
you a little dirty and you love it as much
as other people, that's okay too, all right, that's all
right too. Okay. If you if you've been done truly
(33:19):
dirty by a pastry and you don't really love it
the way that other people love it, you don't know
how that it's good. You just say, hey, I'm out here,
I've had different experience, all right, I'm saying respect that
maybe my experience comes to the fact that pumpkin trying
to kill my mama, okay, and it's been trying to
kill my mama since they one. So we just want
(33:46):
to thank you for listening to hold up. Yeah, we're
the only two tellers in the world, two tellers in
the world, were the only ones talking about what needs
to be talked about. Pumpkins, plantains, lasagna. Okay, we're the
only ones telling people why club bangers are better than
anything that's out in the streets right now. That's not
(34:06):
what we said. That's exactly what that's that's what we're
talking about. That's what we're talking about. Look at these episodes,
go back, find find your way. Okay, get your scorecard together. Okay,
get your hold up scorecard together, and see where you stand.
Are you on the right side of history or do
(34:28):
you agree with Josh. That's what you have to figure out.
M m M. Josh, you want to wrap this up
for the people. If you are looking to catch up
with us on the end the socials, you can find
me at Josh Johnson Comedy on Instagram, on TikTok, on YouTube,
at Josh Johnson on Twitter. And if you're looking for
Duels Saying, you can find me on all the social
(34:49):
media is at duels Say Sloan d U l c
E s l o A N. My name is dual
Say and adult. My mother went to college and we
got dates coming up what you're gonna hear at the
beginning ends out of podcast. But look at listen, let's
look us up, Listen to us, come see us in
our city. Thank you for all the people that came
(35:09):
up to my show in Chicago, and thank you for
the people have been coming out to our shows and
telling us that they're big fans to hold Up. Thank
you so much. We appreciate you, and we hope you
have an amazing rest of the weekend. We finally got
up these of the PA All right, this has been
(35:43):
hold Up. We've covered conscious rap versus club bangers, bars
versus body wash, diners versus waffle houses, all sorts of things.
What else should we be talking about? We want to
know from you. Let us know, drop us a comment
or hit hold up on social at the Daily Show
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