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December 22, 2022 38 mins

“Because I'm a beach person, right? Because my family's from Miami, I was born there, we used to live there. And so, for me vacation means beach. Period.” - Dulcé Sloan

“Whereas a staycation, now it's all up to you. Do you want Netflix? Do you want to just relax? Do you want sleep? That's all happening. It's happening at home.” - Josh Johnson

We’re revisiting our favorite debate on the best way to spend your time off, vacations vs. staycations, this week on Hold Up with Daily Show correspondent Dulcé Sloan and writer Josh Johnson. #DailyShow #HoldUp #Podcast 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy holidays everyone, It's Josh Johnson here. We're relaxing on
our time off and whether you're on a trip or
chilling at home, now is the perfect time for one
of our favorite hold up episodes, Vacations versus Staycations. Have
a listen. Hey, everybody, we are back with another episode

(00:20):
to hold Up. I'm your host, Josh Johnson right for
The Daily Show and joining me as my co host,
dul Say Sloan, correspondent for The Daily Show. And we're
getting right into it. You know, I know that there's
a lot going on in the world. I know there's
big things, there's wars, there's there's market crashes. We're not
gonna be talking about any of that. We're talking about
stuff that probably doesn't even matter at all to anybody

(00:41):
but us. And we're talking about today, stay cation versus vacation.
Where do you stand? Where do you land? What do
you want to go on? More? And I'm not gonna
put this on you. I'm just saying that it seems
to me like you are a vacation kind of gal.
I'm I'm a I'm a stay cation dude. I'm a
home body Because for me, this I'm just gonna throw
this out there, and this is not pointed, but just

(01:04):
just you're you're gonna you're gonna catch some base in
my voice, right, You're gonna you're gonna catch some tone. Okay.
I cannot stand the fact that a vacation includes a
trip to the airport, a trip to a bus station,
a trip like I like to already be places. I
don't like to travel. People say they like traveling. You
like to already be there. The airport is a nightmare, Okay,

(01:27):
so you want to be able to teleport, that's what
that sounds like. Yeah, I'm sick of attacks, like the
actual social attacks at an airport that I have to
go through to have a vacation. It doesn't make any sense.
Do you have clear and pre check? I have clear,
I have pre checked, But you know what, sometimes those

(01:49):
clothes I didn't even know those possible. Sometimes nobody close them.
Not only will they be closed, they won't be open
early enough. Then Customs also closes as if planes don't
land daily. So it's like you should at least see
like when's the earliest flight coming in from an international flight?
Be open? When's the latest flight leaving? Be fucking open?

(02:13):
Who invented this? Nonsense? We know who did it, but
we won't have to talk about them. Um, we know
who did this, We know who did it. Have you
considered taking a vacation in a car, like try, Well,
you don't drive. No, no, I can't drive, So no,
I have not considered taking vacation in a car. That

(02:35):
would be a car accident almost immediately. Okay, what I
think you should try? Oh, you can do like the
best of both worlds. Like you remember whenever I was
like had left the city and was like just took
over the mountains of New like upstate New York and
all these other places like the Poconos, which full disclosure,
for most of my life I thought was islands. I'm

(02:56):
just finding out they're not islands right now, see the
all they sound like islands. Yeah, yeah, they're sucking mountains.
It also sounds like islands. We don't fully understand, right,
So it's like, oh, we're going to the Poconos. So
if you say that word to me, you're telling me
it's a vacation. I'm hearing the word Poconos expecting mountains

(03:17):
in New York. That sounds crazy. Um, just landlocked, just
higher altitudes sounds nuts. Have you considered, because then you
can get like the best of both worlds. You drive
up to a cabin and then you're staying in a cabin.
So you're getting your staycation, but you're just not at

(03:38):
your house. No, because at my home, I know where
everything is. This cabin, this, this cabin. You know, how
do we know there's not murders? How do we know
there's not somebody waiting? I mean, the cabin is where
the stuff happens from the movie. You're right, That's why
I don't like going up there. I'll say for me,
it depends. But I think because we have been in

(03:59):
a panorama, a panasonic Pondule's Day, Popeye's for the past
two years. My desire because like I'm a beach person, right, so,
like my family is from Miami. I was born there,
we's lived there. So like for me, vacation means beach period.

(04:20):
Don't look at me and go like, oh, we're going
to like somewhere. There's not be any geographical place is
not a beach for vacation. I'm gonna look at you
like your nets. You don't want to go to Montana,
you don't want to I mean, because here's the thing.
Look like, the other thing about vacations that I can't
stand is that there's a pressure to like have fun

(04:41):
and do activities and and and like really be out there.
Whereas a staycation. Now it's all up to you. Do
you want Netflix, do you want to just relax, you
want sleep? That's all happening. It's happening at home. I
have been on vacation with people and it's been chilly
ship and we're doing what whatever, we're doing whatever, we

(05:02):
do it. And then there's other people that want to
give you like a full itinerary and itemize and I'm like,
this is not relaxing because I don't like to do
this in my life. So it's like also, like you'll
go on vacation with people and they don't want to
spend money on food. Wait what It's like, I've thrown

(05:26):
on vacations with people and it's like, well, I don't
want to spend a bunch of money on food. You're like, bitch,
what are you talking about? Like I'm gonna It's like, well,
we can just get make that. I am not eating
anywhere where I can eat where I live. Do you
want to know what that is, though, that's a staycation
person going on a vacation. So there's a broke person

(05:48):
going on vacation. There's a broke person go on vacation.
You should have stayed home. Should stay home. It's like
like I now like when I go on vacation, I
want of like a hotel room that I was like,
even it's a kitchen net or something, right, because like
you want to be able to have like little snack ease,
and so you have a place that has like a
little kitchen area so you can keep cold cut cold. Okay,

(06:11):
keeps cold cuts cold. Nobody's eating hot cold cuts. That's
a get sick um. You get some nice fruits, you
bring you some watermelon, nice little trees, get you some
cold drinks, and then you have a nice thing on
the beach. You are not about this, no, because you
know what you're describing. It is home. No, that's that's
that's that's home to me. I already got the cold cuts,

(06:34):
already got them cold not warm, already got the fruits
in the veg tries. I'm doing all of my my
my things at home. And this is the other thing
about vacations is that people always end up doing my
stuff out there. So then to watch Netflix, to watch
Columbia Netflix. I got my American Netflix listen once. It's

(06:57):
like because like when I went to Turks and Cacos,
like a lot of those resort alces, people have been
at the beach all day long. They're probably gonna be exhausted,
so like some places don't like so it didn't have
like a lot of like a lot of nightlife because
like a family place, like I didn't meet people that
lived there. Remember I told you one on the date
that was just end up being a family outing. Um

(07:19):
yeah right, just wow, just for the listeners. Um. I
went on a boat tour, was hanging out with like
twenty middle aged white people from New Jersey because they
were also on the boat. We had a great time. Uh.
But one of the guys that was working on the boat,
I think it was like this, he wasn't the captain.
Captain was married. Because I would have gone for the captains,
but because you know, you gotta go for the nigg

(07:41):
in charge. Why would I go for the assistant. That
sounds crazy, So but he was a nice man. We
hung out. He's like, Okay, I want to take you
out and I was like sure. He's like, yeah, there's
this far we all go to. I said, okay, cool
because I didn't want to do some stuff where, which
is just like being on the resort all day. So
he comes and picks me up. And when I see him,
he's there's a the older woman in the front seat

(08:04):
drinking a corona and I was like, I'm gonna get
a kid now, this is annoying. But I met some
girls from Atlanta. Um, and you know, we don't play
that game. So they took pictures of him when he
wasn't looking, and then they took pictures of the car,
and the girl, one of the girls was like, she's like,
you're coming back, and I was like, thank you so much. Um, Look,

(08:25):
once again, these are vacation things. I don't have to
take pictures of anything anybody. But I used to do
this in college, like when like the younger girls would
have a guy like come and pick them up. Look
where'd you meet him? Oh, we were met in something
like this like early two thousands. They might have met
like something like black player at the college clubs and
stupid like that. So if none of our friends knew

(08:48):
who he was, we took a picture of him, took
a picture of the license plate. He's like, wow, why
would y'all do this something? Because she's coming back. That's
why we I know, casualties in here, and some of
them would get so spooked. One dude just left the girl.
He was like, I don't want to deal with this.
And I was like, see you would ended up on
the news. You're welcome, but I mean I mean maybe yeah,

(09:11):
yeah that Why are you so upset? Why are you
so bothered by this? Right? So we go, I go
hang so like it's it's it's his auntie in the
car and then his cousins in the back seat. And
then come to find out later the reason all of
the auntie and the cousin we're in the car because
it was the auntie's car, right, So either it. But
I still had a fun time. I had an experience.

(09:34):
He tried to calm me and starting a jet skiing business.
I was like, absolutely not. I don't know your last name,
but it was a nice man. God I didn't give
him the cookies because he was poored. But what I'm
saying is, you go on vacations, I have adventures, right,
But the other girls I was hanging out with. They
stayed at the resort the entire time because it's an

(09:57):
all inclusive resort. And when the girls was like, She's like,
I get my money's worth. I'm drinking everything, I'm eating
all of the food. I am not leaving this resort
because I paid the money. Me on the other hand,
I was just like, I've been on this resort for
three day. I had because I got I was there
from a Wednesday to a Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, Now maybe

(10:19):
I just haven't been to as many places as you,
so then maybe that's part of what's happening. But I'll
tell you right now, there are adventurers at home. They're
adventures that you can have that you would have never
One time I lost my remote and I genuinely I
couldn't find it. I couldn't find it anywhere, and I
looked up and down, I was tossing cushions, I was
everything right, And eventually I just started walking up to

(10:43):
the TV every time that had changed the channel. Right.
And then one day in my staycation, three day staycation,
then on the third day, I opened one of the
drawers in my kitchen boom remotes right there all right. Now,
I don't know how it got there. Now I got
an adventure and history. I don't even have to leave home.

(11:03):
That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. Also, you must
have had cable because you can't change the stream of
service without it control. I don't know why my thing
is sad and your thing is normal, all right, I don't.
I don't know why that happened at all. Listen. I
went on an adventure with strangers, Okay. I found out

(11:26):
that about the little dogs that have on the island.
I saw all the all the islands. I was parasailing, Okay.
I found out that I could not ride a horse
on the beach because as a weight limit on these horses.
And now I have a joke about it because I
was like, where did you get these weak ass horses from?
You see what I'm saying, Like horses used to be
able to put armor on people, and then armor on horses,

(11:48):
and then we go to war. So I'm like, where
did you get these horses from? Look, I'll tell you
right now. I also have had some riveting staycations. One
time I had a dream about a turtle and it
was wild. Woke up sweating everything? How do I hang up?
How do I hang up? How do I what? Why
would you know? Why would you? Why would you hang up?

(12:09):
I'm making good points. I would to hang up. You
cannot tell me about a dream about a turtle and
compare that to me and another girl swag surfing in
the sky. It doesn't work that way. Now it worked
that way for me. I had powered absolutely not listen.
This money you can't take it with you. Okay, first
and foremost, I can't take this money with you. You

(12:32):
work hard, you might as well spend it. This is
the thing about vacation though, It's like sometimes it's like
like vacations come to an end, so stay even like
cations come to in end because you have to take
you as back to work. Right, So that's the hardest
part of either being on a vacation or a staycation.
You know you have to now go back. Well, I

(12:54):
guess you're a stay cation and you just wake up.
I guess boom, thank you. That's what I was going
to say. That's what I was going to say, exactly
what I was gonna say. Did you just go to
work like that's it? You just got every weekend stressing,
stressings and flights. You know, how do I get back?

(13:14):
I get back on the train, sir, excuse me? Why
I blow my dolls? I did not expect this to happen.
While we were recorded, I think about all the places
that I wanted to go as like a kid, Like recently,
I like, wait, didn't you go to Hawaii with your mom?

(13:35):
Mm hmm for them? That on wasn't for me. That
that's I'm trying to give my mom and my aunt
a better life, so that that's just something that I
thought that they would enjoy. I on the other hand,
I could have stayed home. I could have watched all
the NET I was binging at the time, so that

(13:55):
I had to quit binging and then and then get
on a plane and watch it on a plane on
a tiny screen. And then I had to get to Hawaii,
which is beautiful. Don't get me wrong. It's beautiful. There's beaches,
there's like, you know, scantily clad people, and there's their
son and all the stuff. As somebody who doesn't like
the beach, like you make me think you're someone who

(14:17):
doesn't like the beach. It's just itchy dirt, It's just
it's just when you have you have you heard Jay
Jordan's joke m where he says, uh, sand is just
gay dirt. Wow, I've never heard from saying he said

(14:40):
it out. He's so funny. Don't have to look at
my up. But it's like I went to Hawaii back
in March because like we have some um we had
some off time from the show, and I wanted to go,
but I was like, I don't know anybody in Hawaii.
I don't I want to go. I want to go
just because it's like I grew up in then nineties

(15:00):
they said everybody on every TV show to Hawaii, so
it's been like propped up to us for generations. And
I was like, I want to go, but I want
to go by myself, because I definitely went the Turs
and Cakes by myself. But I was like, there's black
people here, I'll be fine, but Hawaii, I don't know
the cats and his way on the other side of
the planet is literally right in the middle of the
specific Pacific Ocean. You have no backup, So it's like

(15:23):
I don't know body know nobody out here. And then
my big brother Tom Bell, an amazing comic uh and
stays on TV show. He was doing shows out there.
So I was like, my brother going, I'm gonna go
with him. I go out there, we have fun, I
meet a young man. I come back, you know, uh
in April um and then I hung out with him.

(15:46):
But then I got to go like to more of
the beaches and see, you know, he took me all
around and see the island because we were on uh
it was Oahu. When you went where were you? Who
are Malloi? I was in Maui. And I'll say this
even you know, you mentioned, you know, the the what
what's the best way to put it? The brief and

(16:08):
exciting romance on a vacation? You know, there's something about
meaning a person on vacation, and you know it's it's
it's like new and it's fresh, and then it's like, oh,
I'm gonna have to leave soon. So how far is
it's gonna go. I'm I'm into the whole romance novel
aspects of romance vacations. But you know what a stay cation. Hey,

(16:30):
you can come back anytime, all right, you can come
back whenever you want, I hear you. But for that
to work, you already have to have somebody on the
hook before your staycation starts. And also I thought this
was gonna be a brief moment. And then this man
was trying to marry me um, which I did not
see coming um, And I was like, hey, I just

(16:51):
wanted to be like a fun, casual thing, trying to
make it a stay cation. He was trying to make
it a steakcake because then if you would if he
had married you, and you would move. My man is
doing the same things that I'm talking about doing. You know.
It's like you meet someone on vacation and you make
it a stay cation because you fall for him. I
was not going to move to Oh, I have so
much work to do. Like you said, I'm trying to

(17:13):
get my mom a better life. I can't do that
in Hawaiian I can't. I don't know the job I
was supposed to have. I was gonna keep marrying hill
from working, but it did not exist on that particular island.
But like, because like I was just in Okay, here's
the best example of the staycation. I was just in
London for the past months shooting a TV show m HM.

(17:35):
So it was a work trip, but I wasn't working
all the time. And then for me sometimes that I'm
in a new place because like I waited to do
all the rod touristy towards the stuff. So my mom
came the first week we were with Wait, you were there,
I was there. I was waiting for you to remember
that I was also there, but I was waiting for

(17:57):
you to mention that you were also there. I didn't
want to interrupt. You know, I know that we would
argue on this show, but I won't be rude. Okay,
I hear it, I get you. Um, But like we
were there for like I was there for a month,
you were there for a week, and so there were
days we weren't working. But there were days we weren't working.
But like I didn't feel like running around London. And

(18:19):
I'm sure there was some days where you didn't want
running around London. So I didn't feel like running around
London because I my chest popped off. Oh yeah, what
happened with that? Could you have to get there? Russian?
ID be profit? This is this is why staycations are better.
I'll tell you right now. So I'm in London and
I'm just doing a regular bench press. I'm not I'm

(18:40):
not doing I'm not trying to be a hero. I'm
not trying to save any lives. I'm not trying to
lift a car off a baby or anything. I'm doing
a regular bench press that I normally do, and I
just hear a pop and I feel I feel a
tear and I re rack the bar and my arm
is not co operating. I'm sitting there swelling like you
like you saw me. I can't believe I went to

(19:02):
the museum. You saw me like two hours after it happened.
And so I don't know what to do because I
just got this like bolder on the left side of
my chest. And if I had been home doing a
stay cation doing a bench press, I would have known
what doctor to go to. I don't even know if
they'll see me because I'm not from here. And apparently
the health care is free, but is it free for everybody?

(19:22):
Do they just have like healthcare spilling out the back
of trucks or do I need to go fill out
a form? So you know, stay cation is even better
for getting to hurt. Yeah, I mean one, that's your
fault for working out while he was on vacation. That's
on you. I mean, wow, Okay, you wasn't going to

(19:45):
get out of shape in a week. Yeah, but like
the shape wasn't gonna change, Like you wasn't gonna stop
being a trappings when all of a sudden it's going
to be like a huge I want to be one
of those you know what, I'll go on vacation when
I'm torn in ripped like Michael B. Jordan's I want
this for you. You've been talking about it for years,

(20:08):
and well you don't have to remind me how long
I've been trying. I mean, listen, we know that I've
been trying to do various things with my body and
they have not been coming to fruition. But it's just
like I hear you on this because I was really
trying to figure out because it was like because for
my birthday, I was like, oh, I'm gonna go to
l A for a couple of days, but then literally

(20:29):
this morning, I was just like, what if I didn't
mm hmm, Well if you had a staycation with all
the people you already know in New York to come
through because but but I did that. The last two
years for my birthday was everybody in New York, and
I haven't been able to see my l A friends.
So for me, it's like, you know, getting reacquainted with people.
And also like I've been in l A a a few times,

(20:51):
it's like it's always been for work. So then you
can't be around anybody because you gotta make sure you
don't catch ronny. So I've done a staycation before and
it's like, oh, I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna
do that. I'm gonna do this my crafting, and then
I just really give myself permission to just lay down,
which is the best. I don't know. I don't know

(21:13):
why people are trying to have ambitious stay cations. Okay,
it was made for you to lay where you lay,
for you to eat where you eat. It. It's absolutely perfect,
all right. The people that are out here trying to
go to other countries and like see other cultures and stuff,
it's like what you're trying to prove alright, So you
don't want to travel worldly So wait, so you don't

(21:37):
want to travel at all, You don't want to go
to another place. All I'll say is this, I go places.
I do things like I went to London, go to Canada,
I go play this for shows. I'm I'm I'm I'm
a person that goes out. I'm just saying I would

(21:58):
rather st at home all right, with a good book,
because that's the other thing I do on vacation. Vacations,
I end up buying books that then I just wish
I was home reading because then you buy a book
on vacation and then everybody's like, no, I come to
the beach with us, everything like that, and then then
after a one reading looks on the beach all the time.
I don't want saying in my pages. I don't. I

(22:20):
don't want the binding of my book to be dirtied
with the soiled sweat of the earth. Wow. Okay, so
you can sit by the pool, because most hotels have pools.
You can sit by the pool and read a book
and get splashed with chlorine on my pristine new book.

(22:41):
I don't. I can't want this for you. I'm just
trying to figure out. I guess I understand, like there's
times that I really want to be right, and then
there's times from just like I think. The other thing
for me is like I'm single. Mm hmm, So being
in my house by myself for an extended period of

(23:03):
time just makes me sad like if there was another
human being in my house, or maybe even a cat.
There was another living creature in my house, well, another mammal.
There was another mammal in my house, another more and
more specific every time, UH something I could hug an

(23:27):
ere that I might be more inclined to be home more.
But like I remember, I was like out like a
couple of months ago, and one of my friends were like, oh,
it's like one in the morning, are you going home?
And I was like, why, there's nobody at my house
and he just started laughing. I was like, what he's

(23:47):
making it's very I've no one to go home too.
I'm gonna get in the house. When I left, it
was just me. When I got home, it was just me,
these dishes only getting washed when I feel like doing them.
And I never felt like so I think for me,
like going on trips and stuff, it's like it's really

(24:08):
just me trying to get to the beach. But I
think it's that's like the beaches like a relaxing place
for me. Okay, so how about this. I'll pitch you this.
I'll ask you this. If you live somewhere with a beach,
would you go on vacations if the beach was already there,
It's already outside the window. You can see it. You

(24:28):
can just peek out your blinds and see the beach.
You know, you can just stare at it out your
window like a pervert. Right, You're still going on vacations now,
I don't know, because that's my thing is that if
you've got the right environment, a staycation is better than

(24:49):
a vacation because you already know you want to be
at the place that you are. Well, I guess like
that's why I started buying better speak seats on planes
because the hardest part was just like just being hemmed up,
just trapped in this tube in the sky m hm um,
trying not to pee because I'm in a window seat

(25:12):
and I had to climb out with two other adults.
What all I'm just trying to do. He's just you know,
look for the latrine. So just that, So like just
traveling in a different way, and like I remember there
was one time I was in l a X And
I don't know if some flights that got canceled or
what happened, but there were people fucking everywhere. I was like,

(25:35):
is this a bus station? What the hell happening here?
Because I was like, I was, you know, because like
Costa was telling me, He's like, oh, you should get
a membership in the Delta Lounge in the American Lines.
I'm like, wow, I don't think I need that. And
there was a thousand humans, truly thousands of people, and
it was stressing me out. So I was like, let
me go in the Delta sky Club. And I walked

(25:59):
in there and I was like, is the air different
in here? Like it was just a different vibe because
it wasn't a million people stressed out about getting on
a plane. Very interesting, very interesting. So you went to
an airport and you were getting overwhelmed by the amount
of people around you and and their franticness, their chaos

(26:20):
was was it was coming at you funny. So you
wanted to get away from that, so you went to
a sky lounge, which is only replicating a staycation. A
sky lounge is not representing a staycation. And you know,
good and damn well, it's not it's a whole bar
in here, because you're still try it's a lounge, Josh,
it's not. I'm currently in the green room of the show.

(26:43):
I don't think I'm in a living room. I know,
I'm in a room that is designated for people to
wait in. It's not a lounge that moves. It's a
lounge that stays right where it is. You know, the
whole airport doesn't move. I started to leave this lounge
to go some flight. No, this this is a I

(27:05):
am not making a point for you, because how about this.
They could make the whole airport. That's the thing that
to make it exclusive. Like you get a first class
teach you automatically get it right. When you are paying
to have a different type of experience, then there is
going to be food and drinks because I paid you

(27:27):
more to not be in the franticness of the people
who are getting on a Spirit Airline flight or whatever,
or group nine. Like, that's why it's gonna sound very least.
Some people are gonna be upset, But that's not my problem.
And I do not know what you really for group nine.
That's listen. You think I wasn't in group nine. You

(27:50):
think when I started trapp we've all been a group nine.
When you start going on the road, you are a
group eight, group nine, group six, And then when you
start packing up these frequent flyer miles because you work.
The more freaquent flyer miles you get, the earlier you
can get on a plane. So I'm always gonna be
Sky priority no matter where I sit on this plane,

(28:15):
because I have four hundred thousand miles with Delta. I
think that, you know, we should also point out that
Group nine if if you're not aware, if you're a
listener and you're not actually someone who's had the misfortunate
being in group nine, you're basically outside the plane. Yeah,
you're holding on the way on the wing. Yeah, you're
that monster on that episode of Twilight Zone who is

(28:39):
terrorizing a very young William Channer. Like you're holding onto
the plane for dear life. Also, by the time they
get to group nine, if you don't have a backpack
that rolling, you're rolling bags, not getting on the plane.
Group now, it's just not It didn't tell you ahead
of time. They tell you don't even try. Don't even try.
You are in group nine, go ahead and gate check this.
Stop playing with people. So you start traveling. It's you,

(29:01):
So you work your way up. So can I throw
this out there to you? Um, you know what type
of place does not have this sort of hierarchy where
you have to work your way up through money and
time and expenses. Is a home, you know? I don't
know that's that's my basement. I want to send in
my basement for you know, thirty extra minutes because I'm

(29:22):
in group nine. First of all, you don't have a basement.
You don't know my life like that. I do know
your life like that. I know you don't have to
put my business out there, But you don't have a basement.
You never heard of. Maybe there's a basement, look base
I you don't have a basement. The building you're in

(29:43):
might have a basement, but where you stay ain't got
no basement. So let's I play this game. We're only
dealing with true facts and experiences, and in your experience,
your black ass ain't got no basement. So I don't
want to play this game. Okay. And the thing is,
because of time and experience it spent. Don't you live
in a better apartment now than you did when you

(30:04):
first moved to New York? Mmmm? See, I want to
give it to you, but those are leases. No, no, no,
no no, it's not about e lease. You're talking about
a stay cation. So where you stay is going to
determine how your cation goes, Right, So when you were there,
your very first department in New York, with whoever you

(30:28):
were staying with, would you want because you're so when
you're doing stay cation, you're like a solid week at
home doing nothing. So your first apartment when you first
moved to New York, would you have wanted to do
a stay cation in that apartment? I don't even know
if I want to talk about it, you know, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah,

(30:56):
I mean my first department in New York was a hallway.
So that's that to to your point, I see what
you mean that is that you work your way up eventually.
I guess I just feel like since I've lived in
the same apartment for years now, I don't But but
you had to work, and that's time to get to

(31:19):
the plant where you could afford to live in an
apartment that you would stay in for a week because
your other apartment was a tornado Drew Sure, Yeah, see
that's not a place you wanted to stay cation. No,
where you stay now with someplace you want to stay cation.
So if you're living in a situation like that, you

(31:40):
would not want to stay there, you would put your
coins together, feel them apart. If you got to you
would collect your coins together and get on that jet
food light because you can get eighty dollar tickets at
the Caribbean on Jet Blue and being a nice seat
and take luggage with you. I didn't know those things.

(32:03):
The guys, Listen, it's not that expensive to get to
the Bahamas. It's really not. That's why people always go.
But I was not expensive to that's I was like, listen,
if I can't do with a man who can at
least give me to the Bahamas, brout we, why would
let you see my tapes? It's stupid. Look peak staycation

(32:25):
versus peak vacation. I'm trying to stay cation every time.
I want to get enough money to have a nice
enough house to where I never want to leave, and
that's the ultimate staycation experience. But do you not want
to leave because your house is expensive? Yeah, I probably
can't afford to leave now, Like, well that was a
crazy thing, Like this is what kind of happened, like

(32:47):
because of the Rowney where it was like that's why
we ran into furniture because everybody was in their apartments
being like, oh wait, a minute. I gotta be in
here all day, every day for months. Oh we need
to change this. Shut up and losing my mind in here,
because that was the thing I think I got, like
a lot of That's why so many people like left
New York because it's like you leave for work at

(33:09):
eight in the morning, you might not come and then
over you go, you might not come back until eight
ten o'clock at night or even later, and then you
just go to sleep. So you weren't even in your
apartment that long. So you're like, I can handle this.
You know. Yes, the door, the bathroom door hits the
toilet when I opened the door, but I'm not either

(33:29):
off to anywhere, don't matter. And then now you're in
there because the RONI and it's like, oh ship this
is and I get the hell a bad here. You're
like feeling that you get when you're on vacation, like
you don't have and in response, like you don't like
you don't like that feeling. Um, I have that feeling

(33:50):
at home. Uh And and here's there's no oh yeah,
oh yeah, there's no way I get that feeling hard
at home your home. Yeah, I don't I don't care
about anything. I'm like, oh, you know, you know it's
about to get read this book. You know what I
was about to get watched this show. Oh I'm in it.

(34:11):
I seamless to my apartment because I know what's near me.
Oh I I don't. I don't even think. I don't
even think you'd be ready for the level of staycation
experience that I experienced. I think I think your mind
would be blown. It's others just reading a book in
order and foods you eat all the time. What can

(34:32):
I say? I got a good life. I can't stand you.
I will say, though, Um, the thing that you mentioned
about vacations and how especially in the pandemic, people want
to get out there and have new experiences. I understand that,
Like I I get that I'm not new experiences. It's

(34:53):
just like leaving. You aren't in your house shaking and
fear for a year and a half. It's like, I'm
finally not mortified to step outside my house. What if
we got on the plane. M h. I think that's
the campaign. It's like that makes sense, and I do
understand the feeling. I'm just like being in your house

(35:16):
and not having to do anything. But I think a
staycation is just a weekend. Oh that that's that's where
I have to slow you down. That's where I have
to back you up. That's where I have to stop.
You have never talked to me like this before. A

(35:38):
staycation is as long as the imagination lets it go.
A staycation is fear as long as you are on
vacation and the next thing you wake up and gotta work. Yeah,
but you you can be on staycation until the minute
you leave that apartment at that house, that condo, that trailer,
that car. It's about the mind. You know, You're You're

(36:02):
the one that that's like hooked on the parameters of
an itinerary. You have to be on that flight by
a certain time or else you're not coming back planes
five daily. You can always get a plane back. You're
always baby fair fair enough that that makes sense. I
see what you mean now of how vacations can be

(36:23):
great and why people want to go on them. I'm
I'm with you, and I and I also can understand
because like everything like this thing started to open back up.
I was like, oh, I don't it feels too open,
Like I don't, I don't know. Some people are nasty.
Some people you. You're like, oh, you should still be

(36:43):
in lockdown. Yeah, you're still be in lockdown. You should
be in handcuffs. So yeah, it's like I understand. But
what I do also like this is what I like
when I'm on vacation. I don't like run around and
doing a bunch of ships because, like, guess why, I
like getting like a hotel, like a balcony or like
an airb like a balcony, like I'm gonna be able
to just sit outside and enjoy the air of another place.

(37:09):
I don't like running around having a full ituner ry.
So it's like, I guess sometimes I'll do a staycation
while I'm on a vacation. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm I'm
with you. I I want to get not only just
your thoughts, but the thoughts of the listeners. Let us
know what you think. You know, are you a vacation
person and staycation person? Do you think one of us

(37:31):
is absolutely crazy? It's probably me. I understand that I
have very unpopular opinions about things. A lot of people
probably agree with you. They're like, no, I'm trying to
stay in the house, you know, because sometimes I feel
like a rich person agrees with me. I feel like
I feel like anybody with money is probably going to
agree with me. I'm just glad that we could find
some common ground, you know. I want to thank you

(37:53):
dul Safe for being a co host with me. I
want to thank you the listener for listening to the episode.
And we're gonna be back next week with an all
new hold Up. Listen to hold Up on the I
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