May 7, 2025 • 50 mins
Allow me to introduce y'all to Captain Ibrahim Traoré, the Interim President of the African nation of Burkina Faso. Let's learn about why America even cares he exists. Here's a hint... he's daring to not need the West.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Cool media.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, black people, let's get global. Ibraham, chuare politics, y'all? Yo?
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I just did the like serious announcer type vibes where
you look right into the camera and say what you
got to say.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I've never done that. Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Before we get started on this week of black excellence
and how the West hates it. If you're in the
Los Angeles area, I will be performing at the La
County Fair on May ninth, starting at six at the
Fair Duh and Uh with full band thea Hoomie see
Formie sche It's gonna be dope. Also, this Sunday is
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the Bastard Picnic or Bastard Barbecue with a scratch Bastard Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Probably. I think I can safely say.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I know the world's greatest DJs because if you could
hear the rasp in my voice from real ones last night,
shout out y'all who pulled up hooked up with the
Homies a DP sound. The Homie first one apparently is
part of the Zeit Gang, who's part of the Bridge's Crew,
which is a lot of like my history. This is
very La stuff for the rest of y'all, essentially our
hip hop scene and are like weeklies and monthlies where
(01:27):
you would hear good DJs and stuff like that, Like
I'm naming names from that, but anyway, he's part of
the Zeit Gang. Anyway, I say all that to say
I've been around the greatest DJs I can say in
the world, beat Nuts, beat Junkies, Scratch Pickles, the greatest DJs.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
In the history at hip hop.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I don't think I've ever actually teared up at how
perfect a set was to when I heard Scratch Bastard
play at this event called Boombox. Way off topic here,
but I think this is important. Like I say, oftentimes
a lot of these y ns, if you will, a
lot of them, maybe not the young, young ones, but
they kind of romanticized like the nineties gang in turf
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wars and violence from like the eras of oro ogs,
whether it's the NWA era or like the Snoop Dogg era.
And truthfully, I would not wish any of those times
on my worst enemy. Just the heightened sense of danger
at all times, like you never relaxed, You're just freaking amygdala,
your lizard brain just always in fight or flight.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Like I wouldn't wish that on nobody.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But what I would wish on y'all is our experience
with art and culture. Man being able to go down
to Dogtown see these skaters and empty pools and just
culture being made. The scene that we kind of came
out of with like open mics and dance floors. We
were out doing participating in hip hop a good five
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nights a week. That experience. These are friends that I
still have to this day. Like a lot of the
leaders like Will I Am and Black Eyed Peas, they
were just a part of our scene, you know, And
just being in these moments, it's just I feel like
the famous Juice is supernatural battle, the battle that Eminem
got discovered on when he battled Otherwise at Elements at
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the l RA Theater. We just got to witness such
dope culture.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Anyway, that's on some personal note, But now let's get
into this Black Excellence thing. I'm gonna talk to you
all about something that may not seem like it has
anything to do with America until you see how deeply
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American this play will become. And then later on that
this week when we do the Tapping episode, we're going
to talk about Ryan Coogler and essentially.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
The same premise.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Here is how America feels about black excellence, really how
the West feels about black caca. Now, as I say this,
it is important to remember, and I think a great
example of this would be Ditty, that the government has
conspired to take down many amazing, strong Black men. This
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does not make them heroes or innocent. Every nigga in
jail ain't Nelson Mandela. This is not y'all are not
all political prisoners. It's just oftentimes when it comes to
the Black community, and I think in brown also, but
I'm speaking right now about the Black community, our whole diaspora,
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we're not allowed to have Our heroes. Can't be complicated.
Our heroes can't have flaws and just be complicated humans
who may have had good intentions or bad intentions or
anything in between. So Diddy is not one of them.
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So y'all need to be up under the jail. And
I'm saying this as an abolitionist, but I am saying
when we start talking about our heroes, especially people who
have fought for the liberation of black people everywhere, somehow
or another, the West figures out of the way how
to make this man a villain, and that villainry is
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supposed to undermine all of our views for them, y'all
would call Black Panthers a terrorist organization. Y'all would, uh
you know doctor King was a womanizer, which he was.
Malcolm X was racist and hated like we just like
we can't have no Fred Hampton, you know, the Black Messiah.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
We can't have nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Our heroes can't be complicated, whereas you allow people like
you know, Tricky Dick. I mean, just pick a white man. Hell,
Mike Wallas gets to keep his job. Are you talking
about the man? No, he gets know this man don't
get to keep his job. He gets transferred to a
different department and in my opinion, a much more fun job.
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Mike Wallace, the hommy that was the Secretary of Defense
and added the Atlantic Reporter to his group text owned
signal no less. Rather than getting booted out immediately, they
send him to be the UN ambassador. Boy, I tell you,
rich white men just can't fail. Like it is impossible
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for y'all to fail. Y'all got no flaws. And of
course the president himself, well you know he's rough around
the edges were a criminal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But I digress.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Black excellence independence, it scares the West, and I think
it scares the West all the way back to the
land grabs the scramble for Africa. The West needs us,
and I'm saying us as part of the diaspora, it
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needs us to need them. We see it played out
in America a little differently. But right now I want
to talk about abroad and to get into this, I
want to start with a little story which I may
have said before. I think I did in the usaid
stuff it's about. But if you didn't hear that episode,
I'm gonna rewind you anyway because it's just it's just
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just follow me here on tour in South Africa in
twenty seventeen. Shout out to Homie Greg Casselm and DJ
Easy out there, one of my brothers from Zimbabwe and on.
While we were on this road trip to Botswana to
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go perform out there at a church whose pastor is
from Long Beach No Less, we were talking politics. You
knew I was into that. We were talking about what
he thought about Obama. I was asking him about like
just the younger the younger generation activists in South Africa.
There views on Matiba or Nelson Mandela and they a
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lot of times they feel like he didn't go far enough.
They you know, kind of played nice. And then he
asked me if I had a political hero, and for me,
as an American as complicated, like I can't think of
anybody like that. He was like, minus Momar Kadaffi, and
I was like, record scratched. What Kadafi from Libya?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And I think that was one of those moments. Oh.
Then he talked about Cuba too.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
He was like, everybody I know has a Cuban doctor,
that Cuba's been exporting doctors to Africa this entire time,
and you just there's there's a very few times. Because
I consider myself pretty well traveled, pretty well informed.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
My daughter, don't tell my mama.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Because she's gonna be mad about this, But my daughter
read my star chart, like the astrology type stuff. Don't
tell my mama because then she's gonna show up at
my house with the blessed oil try to pray it
out my house. But one of the things that she
said was on my star chart is a curiosity about
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a wide breadth of things. And I'm like, well, you
know that scans. I consider myself very well informed, but
every once in a while you have moments when you realize, oh,
you are in a cultural bubble, you are in an
informational sphere that informs the way you see the world.
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And nothing shakes me more than when I go to
Africa and somebody says a sentence like that Cuba like
or really like Cuba like, Yeah, you ever wonder why
they smoke cigars so well and they don't be dying
a lung cancer like we do. I was like, what
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my whole boyfriend, we had a Greg and Chantelle Denise.
He told me they did their honeymoon in Cuba. I
was like, you went to Cuba for your honeymoon? He goes, yeah,
that's an American thing that y'all don't go there. The
rest of us go there all the time. It's great.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I just it's a like a dimension I just didn't
know was real.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So anyway, we did a bastard episode on momark A
Daffi And I'm not here to scrub this guy's reputation.
I'm just saying we are totally unaware until it's made
clear just how curated our informational bubble is. This man
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said Kadafi was his hero and part of why he
said that is because he's, like very few African leaders
dare to not need the West to do what they
gotta do to make sure that they can take care
of themselves. One thing Momark he was doing is he
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was removing Libya from the World Bank. That was one
thing he's working. Oh, he was working on a ghostand
I remember hearing Lewis Farrakahn talk about it. And Lewis
Farrakhan is a complicated figure here too, but he is
an example of somebody that's out of our information bubble.
The problem a lot of times, even with that understanding
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is in America is the fact that like some of
the other information bubbles beat conspiracy theories where it's sound,
where the earth all of a sudden flat, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So like you just it's almost like you don't want
to poke your head out of your circle, just in
case you run into an old QAnon gamer Gate head
ass if you can you get these moments that make
you say, oh, I was led to believe, not despite
any evidence, but I was led to believe that Momar
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Kadafi was pure evil. And again the nick Cleansing's the
things for which the murders that might have happened under
his I'm not talking about I'm talking about a person
look me in the face, a god fearing man from
the continent essentially told me that you might have a
story wrong, which is what I have to tell people
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all the time about.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The Black panthers. You might have the story wrong. But
what we know, what we understand is how I'm gonna
get into this.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Captain here about a small country called Burkino Fasso, Bikino Fasso,
Captain Ibraham Tarrar, and why black excellence scares the West.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
When it comes to the full African diaspora of African Americans,
black people out here, Caribbean black people, Indian black people.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
African black people.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
We often define ourselves by where the boat dropped us
off rather than where we were picked up from.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's why you look at a Cuban black man and
be like, but I thought you was Latino, and he like,
now that's where we just got dropped off. Where we
came from is the same place you came from. The
homiemerse Ariman Raus chilling backstage with one of his crip friends,
and who's Cuban two?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And he said.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
People used to always say, hey, but you Cuban while
you look black, he go nigga cause I am black.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You go down to Columbia, they.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Black as hell, like we got dropped off all across
the Americas. But with that, oftentimes, because this is just
a product of imperialism and colonialism, we tend to identify
with that group that we got off the boat from
more than where we started from. We start allowing for
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a lot of divide and conquered type type beats to
take apart our experience, some of which if once you
start talking, you could kind of understand when you think
about Caribbean black people Haitians, which is a great example
of what I'm about to talk about too. Jamaican's how
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they threw off their slave owners. Like those were successful
slave rebellions. We didn't do it in America. So in
a lot of it, So sometimes Caribbean of black people
kind of look down on us a little bit because
we couldn't we couldn't do it, you know. In some ways,
Africans oftentimes they get here because they've bought the American dream.
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But they get here and they start succeeding a lot
of Nigerians especially down in Houston. Some of them end
up poor, but some of them actually come from wealth.
Like I know a lot of friends who are like
it's like they say this to not be funny, but
it's like, yeah, our family is royalty. Back home, it's
just there's just not a lot of opportunities. So we
came out here, but like, yeah, back home, my grandparents
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have servants. Like it's because of the wealth disparage, and
they're like, oh, yeah, we're sending money back to the
compound back at home. So when they come here and
they get it popping, you know, they they're thinking, how
come black people don't know how to work? Like, why
aren't you taking advantage of all of these opportunities you have?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
So there's this misunderstanding of our experiences and how we
interact with each other that oftentimes becomes a hammer or
a crowbar that the forces that oppress us continue to
use on us, and we kind of like sometimes take
it out of their hands and put it on each other.
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But it seems like we're learning. It seems like we're
learning that this old tired playbook. Now that the Internet
exists and we can talk to other Africans and Africans
have come here and they understand. A lot of times,
I like, bro I met African people that get to
America and they're like, this is the first time I
even thought about the fact that I was black, because
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I live in a black world. Is no such thing
as black, Like we just don't think about it. You
realize I was black. I've always been my tribe. But
you get here you understand like, oh, this is a
different world.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You feel me. But anyway, we're starting to learn.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Let me teach y'all about a man, a revolutionary who
right now is in the scopes of the West and
why Captain Ibraham Tror. I can't say his name because
it's French Tar and like French don't roll off my
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tongue like Spanish, I can speak Spanish.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
French is real hard for me.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Why that man's name is French is because of the
African lamp crab. He is from a small country that
is in between.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
It's north of.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Ghana and it's south of Mali, a small little country
that I'm pretty sure you ain't no existed. You know
how I know you didn't know it existed because I
ain't know it existed. That's how bad are you to listen?
That's this space right here, and how big the world is.
He became the ifso facto leader of Bukina Fasso in
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September of twenty twenty two, but that was because this
was the second military coup that had happened in seven months.
When he came into power, he took out the.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Dude that.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Led the last coup, who he usuly actually worked for,
named Paul Henry Demba.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He led the coop in January of twenty twenty two,
right toppling the former president who was like just a regular,
regular civilian president named Kabori. Kabor Please please forgive me
for my butchering a y'all's African and French nag. But
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the reason why he said he had to remove this
last military coup guy was because you wasn't doing nothing
to stop any of the Jihadis and the extremists that
have essentially taken apart our country. What does any of
this have to do with America, Well, let me tell
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you what happened.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
A few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
General Michael Langley, he's the head of the US military
in Africa, said that this man during a US Senate
hearing Captain Ibraham Charrar was stealing gold and money from
his people to fatten his pockets so he can stay
in power. So for some reason, this American general, in
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a discussion about USAID and about soft power that happens
in foreign countries. We remember again we talked about USAID
somehow or another, he put this man in this guy's scope,
and he told him that he was corrupt and that
he's stealing money from his own people. Now, where have
we heard that before? And why would you say that
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about him? About this tiny again country that none of
y'all ever heard of. I could say that for a fact,
unless you're from here, you from there, I'm pretty sure
none of y'all are. I mean, unless you Afro studies
majors and as in like African West African studies made
you probably never heard of this thing. Maybe you're from
Nigeria or Benin so you kind of knew this, but
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or maybe you tapped into the diaspora. But I'm pretty
sure this man has not crime across your feed until
this moment. According to the AP, I'm gonna read this
earlier this month, General Michael Lanley, the head of US
military in Africa accused Tararar during a US debate semit
it Us during a US Senate committee hearing of using
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Bikino Fossil's gold reserves to benefit the junta at the
expense of the population. Right, and then crowds and crowds
and crowds, massive crowds of protests started happening in Bikino FOSSi,
but in a lot of ways across the African diaspora
in support of Captain Ibraham. Why if he's so corrupt
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is what has bewitched all these people for them to
not know something that the American military knows, and why
does the American military even care? Crowds of protesters gathered
in the Place of Revolution in Bikina Fosso's capital on Wednesday,
chanting long Live Captain Charrar, with some holding banners showing
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a photo of General Langley with the word slave written
over his head in red marker, essentially they calling him
a house nigga, and others wave Burkina Fosso and Russian flags,
which we'll talk about in a minute, a close ally
to the African country, which is probably a hint as
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to why we started hating on this man, oh Cebe Johnson,
he's a musician who came to the protests, said he's
not surprised that the accusations launched by Lang because watch this.
Colin Powell lied, Iraq was destroyed, Barack Obama lied, Gaddafi
was killed. But this time the lies won't affect us.
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That's why we tell them we're not against them, but
we are against the preditation and economic slavery. Now I
want you to key on that word economic slavery and preditation,
and you tell me why America after this man.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
So let's back up.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So this young man born in nineteen eighty eight, right,
he graduated valedictorian from his college, and he studied geology
and went into the military.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Went into the military later.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
He joined the military in two thousand and nine, graduated
in twenty twelve, and was enjoined the artillery. But he
ain't really really get hot right rocking his little red
beret that throws back to their old There there was
a revolutionary in the eighties named Tomas, which I'm not
gonna talk too much time about this, but he's he's
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a essentially like almost like the second Coming.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like a like a spass I type character. Without the
religion around it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But he really got hot in twenty fourteen when he
went to Mali for a UN peacekeeping program called Manusa
and he fought against Jihadja's jihadis again in ethnic insurgents.
Now back to our informational hole we come into. You
hear the term jihadis, you hear the term ethnic insurgents,
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and you probably think of like a nineties trope, right,
But what we need to know and need to remember
is that these tropes often come out of prejudice and
are way more simplified than they need to be. It's complicated.
Or when you hear terms like ethnic insurgencies like on
if you lean more progressive in the left, you think
of these as like noble freedom fighting savages. But they're
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both racists and incomplete tropes.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But at the end of the day, here's the thing
you wasn't outside, You wasn't in Africa. Like the people
he talking about is like the Boko Harum like type beat.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right. You remember them.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Dudes that captured the girls from the Little Girls school.
It held them hostage. You remember them. When we say jihadis,
we talk about like offshoot to al Qaeda, Right, We say,
ethnic insurgencies. These are the people that are fighting back,
like the street, the street people fighting back. In a
lot of times, the ethnic insurgencies are harkening back to
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before these random borders were drawn by white people. We've
been feuding with these people anyway, and this is how
we can retain retain power because there's only so many
finite amount of resource and fools get brutal, fools get
real brutal out there. There's discussions around should Africans accept
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now now that obviously so many years later, should we
accept these identities, these these national borders that were given
to them by Europe, Like what do you mean Ghanaian,
the old Ghana, Ma, Ghana, Mali, and Songhai. Like the
Ghana Empire is not literally where the nation state of
Ghana is, this is named after it. There's a question
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as to like why don't we go back to our
ethnic identities. I mean, it'd be the same question of
like why do any of us identify as being from California,
you know, or the state that you're from. Those borders
are made up. So there's a discussion where it's like, look, dude,
it is what it is. We are accepting our africanness,
and it's been so many generations and identities are malleable.
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You feel me like you might be a part of
this tribe, but if you grew up in the city,
you really don't have much connection. Like there's an ancestry, right,
just like I found my ancestry is Ethiopian. But for
me to run around here talk about what's habashah like
I would be a poser. That's not really who I am.
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It's my lineage. I wish it's just not true. I
wish I was at again. I am of African descent.
I am of the diaspora. So these ethnic insurgencies and
these jahadas anyway, the violence that these groups like perpetrate
on what is seeming their own people. It's an unbridled
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violence that, like I just there's not enough words in
the English language for me to get your brain around
the reasoning for their violence. Can be as complicated or
as simple as you might guess, but it's there. He
was a part of the regular degulars. People say that
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he's always been charismatic, but he's but he quiet. He's
just a good soldier. He went out there and he
fought against jahadas and when you fight against people that
are trying to take away your freedoms, you become a hero.
It just is what it is. So he served a
part called the three border area. It's mally N and
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Rikino Fasso like. And there's there's a point if you again,
if you're looking at the map of Africa, there's a
point where all three of these countries touch.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Now you may remember if you were paying attention.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Nizer has been in the news for the last two
years because of their issues with Jihadis.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It's real over there now.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
When we talk about Jihadis, I am not talking about Islam.
I'm talking about these particular just like when I talk
just like when somebody else talk about Christian. I don't
mean Trump had asked like, I ain't talking about dim blowhards.
I'll talk about Mamma Winian now. So you know that
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there's a difference, right. I just want to make sure
that that's being clear. These people are violent Ryan virus,
these particular groups that he's like pushing against, and he
fought under he was made a captain in twenty twenty
when he fought under or under the leadership of the
guy Paul Henry Domiba, who ended up running the last coup,
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so as he saw his country actually really being overtaken
by UH Jihadis, like town by town, he was out
there liberating, freeing these towns. Now, let's pause here and
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talk about, like how anybody gets recruited in any of
these things anyway. Well, in our network, you got shows
like Weird Little Guys, right, and even a lot of
stuff that they would talk about in various you know,
bastards episodes of how people get on boarder to this.
A lot of this has to do a lack of
resources and a lack of representation and a lack of opportunity.
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A lot of times when you hear people talk about
how they join white supremacist movements, it's not so much
that they had any real issue with any other people.
They just kind of felt like they were victims, that
there is in fact a white genocide, that we are
being a race from the earth, that no one accepts
the pain that we're going through. And then you spend
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this story and it becomes easy enough to get recruited
into because you start believing this story. The same thing
happens a lot of times with like Muslim extremists or jihadis.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's like you start with.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
This kernel of truth about the way that the West
feels about Arab nations, Nigga you right, and the opportunities
that just are not for you, and that it seems
that when you just play by the rule, nothing ever
works for you. Lonely, you can't get no girl, these
promises of you know, success and wealth. This this paradise
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that should be yours is not here, So you need
to go get it. These people have been brainwashed by
the West. You need to go get yours. Does that
sound familiar? Now, these groups that they join, they don't
be as just like your white supremacist group. They don't
be as revolutionary as they sell themselves. They just be
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mafia's right. They they're kidnapping, they're doing extortion. They just
be they and they at the end of the day,
they just be gangs extorting. They're making money. They're stealing
resources from the government. You know when government aid comes
into these foreign cities, they just stealing them. Right, you
try to build a business, you gotta run your you
gotta run twenty percent of your business. They're kidnapping and
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making people pay like it's to mafia. They just call
themselves Jahadis. You know what I'm saying. They say they're
doing this holy war, and some of them might be
true believers, but how they move it and the government
can't do shit. By the year, by twenty twenty two,
two million people were displaced and fifty percent of their
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country fifty half face starvation. Can you I don't know
if you can get your brain around that half of
America might start That's the situation they in. And if
you imagine that, imagine how frustrated we are with our presidents.
Now imagine that, But fifty percent of us was starving.
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Don't you think some don't you think a coop would happen.
And while this is happening, gangs are just roving our street,
kidnapping and abstorting your teachers, explorting your teachers. This I mean,
somebody go come in here, takeout like nigga. You don't
know what you're doing. Get this to me. So by
January twenty twenty two, a military coup led by Paul
(32:07):
Henry Demba overthrew the civilian government. But the problem was
they still couldn't stop these jihattis like it just for
seven months they was trying to get this thing cracking,
trying to get this thing.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Did this thing going on?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I remember, our boy Ibraham is a captain in this
army that's supposed to be leading the charge in taking
down these jahattis. Now he's still in the streets. He's
still outside, he's still in the front line, still in
the trenches. Paul Henry, he he up at the capitol.
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He a bureaucrat. Now he out there sitting all that
air conditioner. So the attacks keep coming and it keeps
getting worse, and the people out there doing the fighting, Ibraham,
and they're not getting they're not getting paid, they're not
getting any money. And Ibraham, who felt like he had
a good rapport with Paul Henry, was trying to get
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these meetings with him and being like, Yo, the hummies
is feeling we're starting to feel a way about how
this is working. We outside dying, We in this African heat,
You up here in this air conditioner, We out here fighting.
He's fight without no resources, and we're not getting paid.
We can't keep doing this. And then the straw that
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broke the camel's back was two things happened. There was
an attack on this one hundred and fifty truck convoy
that was on its way to these captured starving villages
on the outskirts that the military was leading with all
the aid, food resources, all the stuff that the citizens
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of Bikino Fossil needed. It got attacked by jihadis. Ten
civilians were killed and twenty seven soldiers were killed. Meanwhile,
this fool was up in the UN, This fool Paul
was up at the ill at the UN telling everybody
out there that we are really making moves, were really
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making process right folks back home was like, Nah, fam,
what are you talking about? It's gotten worse. Bruh, that's
it because I'm taking his mug over. He tried to
meet with him before he got to that point too,
and the boy just and and boy boy kept giving
him the ulkie dock, like, why are you not like
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what our situation is dire out here?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
My boy?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Now check this out. None of this has got to
do with America right now. But we're about to see
what happened from here. So this man takes over another
military coup, steps in charge. And remember he's already loved.
He's gentle, he's like he's like the type of he's
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the type of alpha male that a lot of you like,
little dumbass manosphere dudes wish you were. He's gentle, he's
soft spoken, he smiles well, but he's a murderer, and
he about that life and he's and he about his people,
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and he take care of his family. He take care
of his folk. His boys love him, his boys trust him.
And he'll put a hole through your chest if he
needs to. But he doesn't need to be aggressive. He's smart.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
And if people love.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Him, so he gets in power and he gets busy.
His first step, we need to kick out France, my nigga,
what you mean kick out France? Well, bikino fasso. Since
the eighteen hundreds, all the way up until no, the
seventeen hundreds, all the way up until nineteen sixty, was
just a colony of France. Now, once they finally handed
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over leadership to the African leaders, that's a quote un
quote un quote their liberation, there was still a military
outpost there.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
All them niggas don't leave. White boys, ain't leave you.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
The reason why half they names a French is because
this is just this was just a French colony. I've
been to Cameroon, I've been to French Africa. The French
influence on this part of Africa is very thick. Niger,
you mean Niger, it's French. They didn't really leave South Africa.
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It's Dutch because they didn't really leave, right. So he
start to get moving, but before he get moving, he
got to deal with this dude that they just put out.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
The dude that they just put out. This this was real.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
This The move that made him the people's champ was
when the other dude got kicked out, Paul Henry. It
was word got back to Captain Ebraham that he was
hiding at the French consulate. So he tell the people like,
oh word, you know your big bad leader that was
here before. He over there hiding with the white boys.
You know, these white people been taking you know, a
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dog on tariffs and indulgences from your whole people. The
reason why y'all can't succeed these white men that still
got armies out here. He hiding over there with them.
The people was like, oh, that's it, because you're gonna
run over there with the white boys. They burnt down
that French consulate. They was like, we tired, we tied
of this French rule. You listen. More of the story
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is no one likes colonizers. I just I don't know
why no one likes colonizers. Right, So he brought the heat.
He brought the heat to France, right, but he was
like listen in twenty twenty three, in early twenty twenty three,
he told France like, look, I'm gonna give y'all a
month to get yall to get your army out of here, okay, And.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
They left carefully. Was like it worked.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
He kicked him out right, We're gonna take care of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
We're gonna figure out what he need to do. You
know what this man did.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
This man brought the food supplies, the food growth, the
produce growth. See, they make a lot of rights, but
all of this stuff gets exported everywhere else in the world.
He said, you know what, I'm gonna not let y'all
export no more. We need to keep our food here.
You know, the gold, because Africa is just covered in
gold and other precious minerals, all of just come out
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the water all over. He said, you know what, listen,
these gold refinery places, we're gonna nationalize them. I'm gonna
bring them under here. So that we can make our
own money, right, And I'm gonna not approve any of
y'all licenses to export goal anywhere else. If you are
from somewhere else and you want to open a gold
refinery here, I'm gonna shut it down. I'm not gonna
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give you no license to open a goal refinery here else.
We need to start taking care of ourselves. He looked
at the IMF and he said, I know y'all give
out loans for countries to start, they start, they to
get themselves off their feet. I don't want your money.
He looked at the World Bank and he said, I
don't want y'all money. We literally make gold here. I
don't need your money. And that my friend was his
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Ai Tupac. This is what got him in the scopes
of our country. This man told the World Bank, do
you know what money's in the World Bank?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Do you know what currency?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
If you if you listening to the audio medium, I
just raised my eyebrows because that's a code for you
to know that it's the US dollar.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Do you know who run the IMF?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oh, these are Western financial institutions. And since we can
do what the hell we want to do, we can
partner with who the hell we want to partner with?
And your beef with them people is not my beef.
He talked to Vladimir Putin. Y'all may or may not know,
but China and Russia been making moves in Africa for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
There's still a beef.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
There's still discussions among African activists out there now about
should we keep accepting China's money. They're building roads, they
building airports, and a lot of some African activists are like, listen,
this is just the new West. They're just gonna do
what they did to us. It's gonna be the same thing.
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It's just it's the yen now instead of the US dollar.
It ain't no different. We're still gonna be a slave
to another country. Other people is like, well, listen, maybe
we can learn the lessons from there, and now that
we understand that what we bring to the table, maybe
we have a little better leverage now because I think
we are a long way from being able to actually
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stand on our own two feet. So maybe we should
accept a little help, a little assistance. But either way,
United States, Europe, it's none of your business.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It's what Abraham is saying.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
And America don't like that. America don't like you talking
to Russia, which is so weird to me because well
they might not have had you not ended usai D.
But you know, racist gone racist.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
This brother flew up to.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Russia for his version of usai DU summit with a
bunch of different African leaders and he made these statements quote,
the problem is seeing African heads of state who bring
nothing to the people who are struggling, singing the same
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song as the imperialists who call us militia.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Do you hear that?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
You in the you in the wrong information cycle? He
was like, the imperialists call us militia. You you calling
your you're calling us militia as derogatory, that somehow or another,
our fight for self governments, governance to throw off our
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imperial leaders is somehow less than we're we're we're we're
not a government, We're just a militia.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
It's it's it's derogatory, right, it's the meaning.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
But he says, but the problem with the rest of
you African leaders is well, you not doing nothing for
your people neither, how are you any different?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
As a result, they end up referring to us as
people who don't respect human rights. Like he said, every
nigga jail, like I said earlier, every nigga jail ain't
Nelson Mandela, every every African leader who tries to talk
that talk about self governance and independence. You not doing
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nothing for your people. How are you any different? That's
why the world don't think you respect human rights.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
You ain't no different. I'm different. And it's true. Starvation
levels have dropped.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
They're making so much money already, he said. We African
heads of state must stop acting like check this out
the marionettes who dance each time the imperialists pull our strings.
My Mirraga talking that talk. He said this yesterday in
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July twenty seven. This was last year President Vladimir Putin
announced that free grain would be shipped to Africa. Now
we covered this before. They've been senting grain to Africa.
Free gain will be shipped to Africa. This is pleasing
and we say thank you for this. However, this is
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also a message to our African heads of state at
the next forum. We must not come here without having
any insured self sufficiency of the food supply for our people.
We must learn from the experience of those who succeeded
at achieving this. I thank you very much for your grain.
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We appreciate it. Now, if you say free, you better
mean free, because if not, you could keep it because
I don't know if you notice, we're in Africa.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
We can grow everything.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
There's diamonds in the dirt, and for too long we've
just let y'all come over here with strings attached. I'll
give you grain if you give us diamonds. All of
a sudden, there's less grain and a lot of diamonds
given all of a sudden. We in these civil wars,
and we consider the savages, and we the militias, we
the insurgencies. Well, we just trying to get these imperials
out here because we just dance monkey dance every time
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y'all come in here. Nah, fam, I'm done dancing for y'all.
You can help me, that's great, but I'm done dancing
for y'all. You can't talk like that in front of
these white people. Bruh's brought change. Listen, do you know
what he's doing. This man got plans for a nuclear
(45:34):
power plant. Do you know that they're making electric cars.
I'm gonna say this again, this African country. You never
heard of is making electric cars. Y'all are in the
wrong informational pipeine for you to understand what's actually happening
in Africa.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Now, it ain't all roses because there was a there
was a coup.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
There was a coup attempt, and this is where America, Americas,
the belief of that coup attempt was put together by
what they believe was Western forces. I'm giggling because we've
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done this before. We've done it with Moza Deck. We
do this all the time. We destabilize countries all the time,
and then we take someone who is a hero to
their people and we call them dictators. Now, don't get
(47:16):
me wrong, there's a heightened surveillance state out there right.
There is accusations of human ghosts, gross crimes against humanity,
of course there are. But don't it seem so convenient
that the person that said you could keep your money
and I'm a tap in with who I want to
(47:37):
tap in with, and it's not your business anyway. The
person that said you can't just keep taking our goal
like this, that maybe we don't need your money, that
maybe we can build our own nuclear plans, Maybe I
don't need American cars maybe we can make our own
and ours won't need gas.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
The heat of dictator.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Ica don't like black excellence, to which I say, we
should keep being excellent.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
So we'll see what's going on. There might be problems
with that man.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
We don't know that, but we also know that's not
our business anyway.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
We seem to only care when you mess with our money.
Good politics, y'all.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.
You better listen to these credits. I need you to
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Speaker 1 (49:57):
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next week.
Cool media.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, black people, let's get global. Ibraham, chuare politics, y'all? Yo?
(00:26):
I just did the like serious announcer type vibes where
you look right into the camera and say what you
got to say.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I've never done that. Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Before we get started on this week of black excellence
and how the West hates it. If you're in the
Los Angeles area, I will be performing at the La
County Fair on May ninth, starting at six at the
Fair Duh and Uh with full band thea Hoomie see
Formie sche It's gonna be dope. Also, this Sunday is
(00:58):
the Bastard Picnic or Bastard Barbecue with a scratch Bastard Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Probably. I think I can safely say.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I know the world's greatest DJs because if you could
hear the rasp in my voice from real ones last night,
shout out y'all who pulled up hooked up with the
Homies a DP sound. The Homie first one apparently is
part of the Zeit Gang, who's part of the Bridge's Crew,
which is a lot of like my history. This is
very La stuff for the rest of y'all, essentially our
hip hop scene and are like weeklies and monthlies where
(01:27):
you would hear good DJs and stuff like that, Like
I'm naming names from that, but anyway, he's part of
the Zeit Gang. Anyway, I say all that to say
I've been around the greatest DJs I can say in
the world, beat Nuts, beat Junkies, Scratch Pickles, the greatest DJs.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
In the history at hip hop.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I don't think I've ever actually teared up at how
perfect a set was to when I heard Scratch Bastard
play at this event called Boombox. Way off topic here,
but I think this is important. Like I say, oftentimes
a lot of these y ns, if you will, a
lot of them, maybe not the young, young ones, but
they kind of romanticized like the nineties gang in turf
(02:06):
wars and violence from like the eras of oro ogs,
whether it's the NWA era or like the Snoop Dogg era.
And truthfully, I would not wish any of those times
on my worst enemy. Just the heightened sense of danger
at all times, like you never relaxed, You're just freaking amygdala,
your lizard brain just always in fight or flight.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Like I wouldn't wish that on nobody.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But what I would wish on y'all is our experience
with art and culture. Man being able to go down
to Dogtown see these skaters and empty pools and just
culture being made. The scene that we kind of came
out of with like open mics and dance floors. We
were out doing participating in hip hop a good five
(02:50):
nights a week. That experience. These are friends that I
still have to this day. Like a lot of the
leaders like Will I Am and Black Eyed Peas, they
were just a part of our scene, you know, And
just being in these moments, it's just I feel like
the famous Juice is supernatural battle, the battle that Eminem
got discovered on when he battled Otherwise at Elements at
(03:13):
the l RA Theater. We just got to witness such
dope culture.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Anyway, that's on some personal note, But now let's get
into this Black Excellence thing. I'm gonna talk to you
all about something that may not seem like it has
anything to do with America until you see how deeply
(03:40):
American this play will become. And then later on that
this week when we do the Tapping episode, we're going
to talk about Ryan Coogler and essentially.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
The same premise.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Here is how America feels about black excellence, really how
the West feels about black caca. Now, as I say this,
it is important to remember, and I think a great
example of this would be Ditty, that the government has
conspired to take down many amazing, strong Black men. This
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does not make them heroes or innocent. Every nigga in
jail ain't Nelson Mandela. This is not y'all are not
all political prisoners. It's just oftentimes when it comes to
the Black community, and I think in brown also, but
I'm speaking right now about the Black community, our whole diaspora,
(04:37):
we're not allowed to have Our heroes. Can't be complicated.
Our heroes can't have flaws and just be complicated humans
who may have had good intentions or bad intentions or
anything in between. So Diddy is not one of them.
(05:02):
So y'all need to be up under the jail. And
I'm saying this as an abolitionist, but I am saying
when we start talking about our heroes, especially people who
have fought for the liberation of black people everywhere, somehow
or another, the West figures out of the way how
to make this man a villain, and that villainry is
(05:22):
supposed to undermine all of our views for them, y'all
would call Black Panthers a terrorist organization. Y'all would, uh
you know doctor King was a womanizer, which he was.
Malcolm X was racist and hated like we just like
we can't have no Fred Hampton, you know, the Black Messiah.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
We can't have nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Our heroes can't be complicated, whereas you allow people like
you know, Tricky Dick. I mean, just pick a white man. Hell,
Mike Wallas gets to keep his job. Are you talking
about the man? No, he gets know this man don't
get to keep his job. He gets transferred to a
different department and in my opinion, a much more fun job.
(06:08):
Mike Wallace, the hommy that was the Secretary of Defense
and added the Atlantic Reporter to his group text owned
signal no less. Rather than getting booted out immediately, they
send him to be the UN ambassador. Boy, I tell you,
rich white men just can't fail. Like it is impossible
(06:28):
for y'all to fail. Y'all got no flaws. And of
course the president himself, well you know he's rough around
the edges were a criminal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But I digress.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Black excellence independence, it scares the West, and I think
it scares the West all the way back to the
land grabs the scramble for Africa. The West needs us,
and I'm saying us as part of the diaspora, it
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needs us to need them. We see it played out
in America a little differently. But right now I want
to talk about abroad and to get into this, I
want to start with a little story which I may
have said before. I think I did in the usaid
stuff it's about. But if you didn't hear that episode,
I'm gonna rewind you anyway because it's just it's just
(07:22):
just follow me here on tour in South Africa in
twenty seventeen. Shout out to Homie Greg Casselm and DJ
Easy out there, one of my brothers from Zimbabwe and on.
While we were on this road trip to Botswana to
(07:43):
go perform out there at a church whose pastor is
from Long Beach No Less, we were talking politics. You
knew I was into that. We were talking about what
he thought about Obama. I was asking him about like
just the younger the younger generation activists in South Africa.
There views on Matiba or Nelson Mandela and they a
(08:05):
lot of times they feel like he didn't go far enough.
They you know, kind of played nice. And then he
asked me if I had a political hero, and for me,
as an American as complicated, like I can't think of
anybody like that. He was like, minus Momar Kadaffi, and
I was like, record scratched. What Kadafi from Libya?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And I think that was one of those moments. Oh.
Then he talked about Cuba too.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
He was like, everybody I know has a Cuban doctor,
that Cuba's been exporting doctors to Africa this entire time,
and you just there's there's a very few times. Because
I consider myself pretty well traveled, pretty well informed.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
My daughter, don't tell my mama.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Because she's gonna be mad about this, But my daughter
read my star chart, like the astrology type stuff. Don't
tell my mama because then she's gonna show up at
my house with the blessed oil try to pray it
out my house. But one of the things that she
said was on my star chart is a curiosity about
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a wide breadth of things. And I'm like, well, you
know that scans. I consider myself very well informed, but
every once in a while you have moments when you realize, oh,
you are in a cultural bubble, you are in an
informational sphere that informs the way you see the world.
(09:36):
And nothing shakes me more than when I go to
Africa and somebody says a sentence like that Cuba like
or really like Cuba like, Yeah, you ever wonder why
they smoke cigars so well and they don't be dying
a lung cancer like we do. I was like, what
(09:59):
my whole boyfriend, we had a Greg and Chantelle Denise.
He told me they did their honeymoon in Cuba. I
was like, you went to Cuba for your honeymoon? He goes, yeah,
that's an American thing that y'all don't go there. The
rest of us go there all the time. It's great.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I just it's a like a dimension I just didn't
know was real.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So anyway, we did a bastard episode on momark A
Daffi And I'm not here to scrub this guy's reputation.
I'm just saying we are totally unaware until it's made
clear just how curated our informational bubble is. This man
(10:41):
said Kadafi was his hero and part of why he
said that is because he's, like very few African leaders
dare to not need the West to do what they
gotta do to make sure that they can take care
of themselves. One thing Momark he was doing is he
(11:01):
was removing Libya from the World Bank. That was one
thing he's working. Oh, he was working on a ghostand
I remember hearing Lewis Farrakahn talk about it. And Lewis
Farrakhan is a complicated figure here too, but he is
an example of somebody that's out of our information bubble.
The problem a lot of times, even with that understanding
(11:22):
is in America is the fact that like some of
the other information bubbles beat conspiracy theories where it's sound,
where the earth all of a sudden flat, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So like you just it's almost like you don't want
to poke your head out of your circle, just in
case you run into an old QAnon gamer Gate head
ass if you can you get these moments that make
you say, oh, I was led to believe, not despite
any evidence, but I was led to believe that Momar
(11:54):
Kadafi was pure evil. And again the nick Cleansing's the
things for which the murders that might have happened under
his I'm not talking about I'm talking about a person
look me in the face, a god fearing man from
the continent essentially told me that you might have a
story wrong, which is what I have to tell people
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all the time about.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The Black panthers. You might have the story wrong. But
what we know, what we understand is how I'm gonna
get into this.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Captain here about a small country called Burkino Fasso, Bikino Fasso,
Captain Ibraham Tarrar, and why black excellence scares the West.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
When it comes to the full African diaspora of African Americans,
black people out here, Caribbean black people, Indian black people.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
African black people.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
We often define ourselves by where the boat dropped us
off rather than where we were picked up from.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's why you look at a Cuban black man and
be like, but I thought you was Latino, and he like,
now that's where we just got dropped off. Where we
came from is the same place you came from. The
homiemerse Ariman Raus chilling backstage with one of his crip friends,
and who's Cuban two?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And he said.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
People used to always say, hey, but you Cuban while
you look black, he go nigga cause I am black.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You go down to Columbia, they.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Black as hell, like we got dropped off all across
the Americas. But with that, oftentimes, because this is just
a product of imperialism and colonialism, we tend to identify
with that group that we got off the boat from
more than where we started from. We start allowing for
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a lot of divide and conquered type type beats to
take apart our experience, some of which if once you
start talking, you could kind of understand when you think
about Caribbean black people Haitians, which is a great example
of what I'm about to talk about too. Jamaican's how
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they threw off their slave owners. Like those were successful
slave rebellions. We didn't do it in America. So in
a lot of it, So sometimes Caribbean of black people
kind of look down on us a little bit because
we couldn't we couldn't do it, you know. In some ways,
Africans oftentimes they get here because they've bought the American dream.
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But they get here and they start succeeding a lot
of Nigerians especially down in Houston. Some of them end
up poor, but some of them actually come from wealth.
Like I know a lot of friends who are like
it's like they say this to not be funny, but
it's like, yeah, our family is royalty. Back home, it's
just there's just not a lot of opportunities. So we
came out here, but like, yeah, back home, my grandparents
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have servants. Like it's because of the wealth disparage, and
they're like, oh, yeah, we're sending money back to the
compound back at home. So when they come here and
they get it popping, you know, they they're thinking, how
come black people don't know how to work? Like, why
aren't you taking advantage of all of these opportunities you have?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
So there's this misunderstanding of our experiences and how we
interact with each other that oftentimes becomes a hammer or
a crowbar that the forces that oppress us continue to
use on us, and we kind of like sometimes take
it out of their hands and put it on each other.
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But it seems like we're learning. It seems like we're
learning that this old tired playbook. Now that the Internet
exists and we can talk to other Africans and Africans
have come here and they understand. A lot of times,
I like, bro I met African people that get to
America and they're like, this is the first time I
even thought about the fact that I was black, because
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I live in a black world. Is no such thing
as black, Like we just don't think about it. You
realize I was black. I've always been my tribe. But
you get here you understand like, oh, this is a
different world.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You feel me. But anyway, we're starting to learn.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Let me teach y'all about a man, a revolutionary who
right now is in the scopes of the West and
why Captain Ibraham Tror. I can't say his name because
it's French Tar and like French don't roll off my
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tongue like Spanish, I can speak Spanish.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
French is real hard for me.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Why that man's name is French is because of the
African lamp crab. He is from a small country that
is in between.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
It's north of.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Ghana and it's south of Mali, a small little country
that I'm pretty sure you ain't no existed. You know
how I know you didn't know it existed because I
ain't know it existed. That's how bad are you to listen?
That's this space right here, and how big the world is.
He became the ifso facto leader of Bukina Fasso in
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September of twenty twenty two, but that was because this
was the second military coup that had happened in seven months.
When he came into power, he took out the.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Dude that.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Led the last coup, who he usuly actually worked for,
named Paul Henry Demba.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He led the coop in January of twenty twenty two,
right toppling the former president who was like just a regular,
regular civilian president named Kabori. Kabor Please please forgive me
for my butchering a y'all's African and French nag. But
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the reason why he said he had to remove this
last military coup guy was because you wasn't doing nothing
to stop any of the Jihadis and the extremists that
have essentially taken apart our country. What does any of
this have to do with America, Well, let me tell
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you what happened.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
A few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
General Michael Langley, he's the head of the US military
in Africa, said that this man during a US Senate
hearing Captain Ibraham Charrar was stealing gold and money from
his people to fatten his pockets so he can stay
in power. So for some reason, this American general, in
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a discussion about USAID and about soft power that happens
in foreign countries. We remember again we talked about USAID
somehow or another, he put this man in this guy's scope,
and he told him that he was corrupt and that
he's stealing money from his own people. Now, where have
we heard that before? And why would you say that
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about him? About this tiny again country that none of
y'all ever heard of. I could say that for a fact,
unless you're from here, you from there, I'm pretty sure
none of y'all are. I mean, unless you Afro studies
majors and as in like African West African studies made
you probably never heard of this thing. Maybe you're from
Nigeria or Benin so you kind of knew this, but
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or maybe you tapped into the diaspora. But I'm pretty
sure this man has not crime across your feed until
this moment. According to the AP, I'm gonna read this
earlier this month, General Michael Lanley, the head of US
military in Africa accused Tararar during a US debate semit
it Us during a US Senate committee hearing of using
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Bikino Fossil's gold reserves to benefit the junta at the
expense of the population. Right, and then crowds and crowds
and crowds, massive crowds of protests started happening in Bikino FOSSi,
but in a lot of ways across the African diaspora
in support of Captain Ibraham. Why if he's so corrupt
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is what has bewitched all these people for them to
not know something that the American military knows, and why
does the American military even care? Crowds of protesters gathered
in the Place of Revolution in Bikina Fosso's capital on Wednesday,
chanting long Live Captain Charrar, with some holding banners showing
(21:24):
a photo of General Langley with the word slave written
over his head in red marker, essentially they calling him
a house nigga, and others wave Burkina Fosso and Russian flags,
which we'll talk about in a minute, a close ally
to the African country, which is probably a hint as
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to why we started hating on this man, oh Cebe Johnson,
he's a musician who came to the protests, said he's
not surprised that the accusations launched by Lang because watch this.
Colin Powell lied, Iraq was destroyed, Barack Obama lied, Gaddafi
was killed. But this time the lies won't affect us.
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That's why we tell them we're not against them, but
we are against the preditation and economic slavery. Now I
want you to key on that word economic slavery and preditation,
and you tell me why America after this man.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
So let's back up.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So this young man born in nineteen eighty eight, right,
he graduated valedictorian from his college, and he studied geology
and went into the military.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Went into the military later.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
He joined the military in two thousand and nine, graduated
in twenty twelve, and was enjoined the artillery. But he
ain't really really get hot right rocking his little red
beret that throws back to their old There there was
a revolutionary in the eighties named Tomas, which I'm not
gonna talk too much time about this, but he's he's
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a essentially like almost like the second Coming.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like a like a spass I type character. Without the
religion around it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But he really got hot in twenty fourteen when he
went to Mali for a UN peacekeeping program called Manusa
and he fought against Jihadja's jihadis again in ethnic insurgents.
Now back to our informational hole we come into. You
hear the term jihadis, you hear the term ethnic insurgents,
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and you probably think of like a nineties trope, right,
But what we need to know and need to remember
is that these tropes often come out of prejudice and
are way more simplified than they need to be. It's complicated.
Or when you hear terms like ethnic insurgencies like on
if you lean more progressive in the left, you think
of these as like noble freedom fighting savages. But they're
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both racists and incomplete tropes.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But at the end of the day, here's the thing
you wasn't outside, You wasn't in Africa. Like the people
he talking about is like the Boko Harum like type beat.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right. You remember them.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Dudes that captured the girls from the Little Girls school.
It held them hostage. You remember them. When we say jihadis,
we talk about like offshoot to al Qaeda, Right, We say,
ethnic insurgencies. These are the people that are fighting back,
like the street, the street people fighting back. In a
lot of times, the ethnic insurgencies are harkening back to
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before these random borders were drawn by white people. We've
been feuding with these people anyway, and this is how
we can retain retain power because there's only so many
finite amount of resource and fools get brutal, fools get
real brutal out there. There's discussions around should Africans accept
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now now that obviously so many years later, should we
accept these identities, these these national borders that were given
to them by Europe, Like what do you mean Ghanaian,
the old Ghana, Ma, Ghana, Mali, and Songhai. Like the
Ghana Empire is not literally where the nation state of
Ghana is, this is named after it. There's a question
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as to like why don't we go back to our
ethnic identities. I mean, it'd be the same question of
like why do any of us identify as being from California,
you know, or the state that you're from. Those borders
are made up. So there's a discussion where it's like, look, dude,
it is what it is. We are accepting our africanness,
and it's been so many generations and identities are malleable.
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You feel me like you might be a part of
this tribe, but if you grew up in the city,
you really don't have much connection. Like there's an ancestry, right,
just like I found my ancestry is Ethiopian. But for
me to run around here talk about what's habashah like
I would be a poser. That's not really who I am.
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It's my lineage. I wish it's just not true. I
wish I was at again. I am of African descent.
I am of the diaspora. So these ethnic insurgencies and
these jahadas anyway, the violence that these groups like perpetrate
on what is seeming their own people. It's an unbridled
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violence that, like I just there's not enough words in
the English language for me to get your brain around
the reasoning for their violence. Can be as complicated or
as simple as you might guess, but it's there. He
was a part of the regular degulars. People say that
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he's always been charismatic, but he's but he quiet. He's
just a good soldier. He went out there and he
fought against jahadas and when you fight against people that
are trying to take away your freedoms, you become a hero.
It just is what it is. So he served a
part called the three border area. It's mally N and
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Rikino Fasso like. And there's there's a point if you again,
if you're looking at the map of Africa, there's a
point where all three of these countries touch.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Now you may remember if you were paying attention.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Nizer has been in the news for the last two
years because of their issues with Jihadis.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It's real over there now.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
When we talk about Jihadis, I am not talking about Islam.
I'm talking about these particular just like when I talk
just like when somebody else talk about Christian. I don't
mean Trump had asked like, I ain't talking about dim blowhards.
I'll talk about Mamma Winian now. So you know that
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there's a difference, right. I just want to make sure
that that's being clear. These people are violent Ryan virus,
these particular groups that he's like pushing against, and he
fought under he was made a captain in twenty twenty
when he fought under or under the leadership of the
guy Paul Henry Domiba, who ended up running the last coup,
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so as he saw his country actually really being overtaken
by UH Jihadis, like town by town, he was out
there liberating, freeing these towns. Now, let's pause here and
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talk about, like how anybody gets recruited in any of
these things anyway. Well, in our network, you got shows
like Weird Little Guys, right, and even a lot of
stuff that they would talk about in various you know,
bastards episodes of how people get on boarder to this.
A lot of this has to do a lack of
resources and a lack of representation and a lack of opportunity.
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A lot of times when you hear people talk about
how they join white supremacist movements, it's not so much
that they had any real issue with any other people.
They just kind of felt like they were victims, that
there is in fact a white genocide, that we are
being a race from the earth, that no one accepts
the pain that we're going through. And then you spend
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this story and it becomes easy enough to get recruited
into because you start believing this story. The same thing
happens a lot of times with like Muslim extremists or jihadis.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's like you start with.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
This kernel of truth about the way that the West
feels about Arab nations, Nigga you right, and the opportunities
that just are not for you, and that it seems
that when you just play by the rule, nothing ever
works for you. Lonely, you can't get no girl, these
promises of you know, success and wealth. This this paradise
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that should be yours is not here, So you need
to go get it. These people have been brainwashed by
the West. You need to go get yours. Does that
sound familiar? Now, these groups that they join, they don't
be as just like your white supremacist group. They don't
be as revolutionary as they sell themselves. They just be
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mafia's right. They they're kidnapping, they're doing extortion. They just
be they and they at the end of the day,
they just be gangs extorting. They're making money. They're stealing
resources from the government. You know when government aid comes
into these foreign cities, they just stealing them. Right, you
try to build a business, you gotta run your you
gotta run twenty percent of your business. They're kidnapping and
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making people pay like it's to mafia. They just call
themselves Jahadis. You know what I'm saying. They say they're
doing this holy war, and some of them might be
true believers, but how they move it and the government
can't do shit. By the year, by twenty twenty two,
two million people were displaced and fifty percent of their
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country fifty half face starvation. Can you I don't know
if you can get your brain around that half of
America might start That's the situation they in. And if
you imagine that, imagine how frustrated we are with our presidents.
Now imagine that, But fifty percent of us was starving.
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Don't you think some don't you think a coop would happen.
And while this is happening, gangs are just roving our street,
kidnapping and abstorting your teachers, explorting your teachers. This I mean,
somebody go come in here, takeout like nigga. You don't
know what you're doing. Get this to me. So by
January twenty twenty two, a military coup led by Paul
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Henry Demba overthrew the civilian government. But the problem was
they still couldn't stop these jihattis like it just for
seven months they was trying to get this thing cracking,
trying to get this thing.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Did this thing going on?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I remember, our boy Ibraham is a captain in this
army that's supposed to be leading the charge in taking
down these jahattis. Now he's still in the streets. He's
still outside, he's still in the front line, still in
the trenches. Paul Henry, he he up at the capitol.
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He a bureaucrat. Now he out there sitting all that
air conditioner. So the attacks keep coming and it keeps
getting worse, and the people out there doing the fighting, Ibraham,
and they're not getting they're not getting paid, they're not
getting any money. And Ibraham, who felt like he had
a good rapport with Paul Henry, was trying to get
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these meetings with him and being like, Yo, the hummies
is feeling we're starting to feel a way about how
this is working. We outside dying, We in this African heat,
You up here in this air conditioner, We out here fighting.
He's fight without no resources, and we're not getting paid.
We can't keep doing this. And then the straw that
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broke the camel's back was two things happened. There was
an attack on this one hundred and fifty truck convoy
that was on its way to these captured starving villages
on the outskirts that the military was leading with all
the aid, food resources, all the stuff that the citizens
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of Bikino Fossil needed. It got attacked by jihadis. Ten
civilians were killed and twenty seven soldiers were killed. Meanwhile,
this fool was up in the UN, This fool Paul
was up at the ill at the UN telling everybody
out there that we are really making moves, were really
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making process right folks back home was like, Nah, fam,
what are you talking about? It's gotten worse. Bruh, that's
it because I'm taking his mug over. He tried to
meet with him before he got to that point too,
and the boy just and and boy boy kept giving
him the ulkie dock, like, why are you not like
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what our situation is dire out here?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
My boy?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Now check this out. None of this has got to
do with America right now. But we're about to see
what happened from here. So this man takes over another
military coup, steps in charge. And remember he's already loved.
He's gentle, he's like he's like the type of he's
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the type of alpha male that a lot of you like,
little dumbass manosphere dudes wish you were. He's gentle, he's
soft spoken, he smiles well, but he's a murderer, and
he about that life and he's and he about his people,
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and he take care of his family. He take care
of his folk. His boys love him, his boys trust him.
And he'll put a hole through your chest if he
needs to. But he doesn't need to be aggressive. He's smart.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
And if people love.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Him, so he gets in power and he gets busy.
His first step, we need to kick out France, my nigga,
what you mean kick out France? Well, bikino fasso. Since
the eighteen hundreds, all the way up until no, the
seventeen hundreds, all the way up until nineteen sixty, was
just a colony of France. Now, once they finally handed
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over leadership to the African leaders, that's a quote un
quote un quote their liberation, there was still a military
outpost there.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
All them niggas don't leave. White boys, ain't leave you.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
The reason why half they names a French is because
this is just this was just a French colony. I've
been to Cameroon, I've been to French Africa. The French
influence on this part of Africa is very thick. Niger,
you mean Niger, it's French. They didn't really leave South Africa.
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It's Dutch because they didn't really leave, right. So he
start to get moving, but before he get moving, he
got to deal with this dude that they just put out.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
The dude that they just put out. This this was real.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
This The move that made him the people's champ was
when the other dude got kicked out, Paul Henry. It
was word got back to Captain Ebraham that he was
hiding at the French consulate. So he tell the people like,
oh word, you know your big bad leader that was
here before. He over there hiding with the white boys.
You know, these white people been taking you know, a
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dog on tariffs and indulgences from your whole people. The
reason why y'all can't succeed these white men that still
got armies out here. He hiding over there with them.
The people was like, oh, that's it, because you're gonna
run over there with the white boys. They burnt down
that French consulate. They was like, we tired, we tied
of this French rule. You listen. More of the story
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is no one likes colonizers. I just I don't know
why no one likes colonizers. Right, So he brought the heat.
He brought the heat to France, right, but he was
like listen in twenty twenty three, in early twenty twenty three,
he told France like, look, I'm gonna give y'all a
month to get yall to get your army out of here, okay, And.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
They left carefully. Was like it worked.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
He kicked him out right, We're gonna take care of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
We're gonna figure out what he need to do. You
know what this man did.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
This man brought the food supplies, the food growth, the
produce growth. See, they make a lot of rights, but
all of this stuff gets exported everywhere else in the world.
He said, you know what, I'm gonna not let y'all
export no more. We need to keep our food here.
You know, the gold, because Africa is just covered in
gold and other precious minerals, all of just come out
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the water all over. He said, you know what, listen,
these gold refinery places, we're gonna nationalize them. I'm gonna
bring them under here. So that we can make our
own money, right, And I'm gonna not approve any of
y'all licenses to export goal anywhere else. If you are
from somewhere else and you want to open a gold
refinery here, I'm gonna shut it down. I'm not gonna
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give you no license to open a goal refinery here else.
We need to start taking care of ourselves. He looked
at the IMF and he said, I know y'all give
out loans for countries to start, they start, they to
get themselves off their feet. I don't want your money.
He looked at the World Bank and he said, I
don't want y'all money. We literally make gold here. I
don't need your money. And that my friend was his
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Ai Tupac. This is what got him in the scopes
of our country. This man told the World Bank, do
you know what money's in the World Bank?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Do you know what currency?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
If you if you listening to the audio medium, I
just raised my eyebrows because that's a code for you
to know that it's the US dollar.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Do you know who run the IMF?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oh, these are Western financial institutions. And since we can
do what the hell we want to do, we can
partner with who the hell we want to partner with?
And your beef with them people is not my beef.
He talked to Vladimir Putin. Y'all may or may not know,
but China and Russia been making moves in Africa for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
There's still a beef.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
There's still discussions among African activists out there now about
should we keep accepting China's money. They're building roads, they
building airports, and a lot of some African activists are like, listen,
this is just the new West. They're just gonna do
what they did to us. It's gonna be the same thing.
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It's just it's the yen now instead of the US dollar.
It ain't no different. We're still gonna be a slave
to another country. Other people is like, well, listen, maybe
we can learn the lessons from there, and now that
we understand that what we bring to the table, maybe
we have a little better leverage now because I think
we are a long way from being able to actually
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stand on our own two feet. So maybe we should
accept a little help, a little assistance. But either way,
United States, Europe, it's none of your business.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It's what Abraham is saying.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
And America don't like that. America don't like you talking
to Russia, which is so weird to me because well
they might not have had you not ended usai D.
But you know, racist gone racist.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
This brother flew up to.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Russia for his version of usai DU summit with a
bunch of different African leaders and he made these statements quote,
the problem is seeing African heads of state who bring
nothing to the people who are struggling, singing the same
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song as the imperialists who call us militia.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Do you hear that?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
You in the you in the wrong information cycle? He
was like, the imperialists call us militia. You you calling
your you're calling us militia as derogatory, that somehow or another,
our fight for self governments, governance to throw off our
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imperial leaders is somehow less than we're we're we're we're
not a government, We're just a militia.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
It's it's it's derogatory, right, it's the meaning.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
But he says, but the problem with the rest of
you African leaders is well, you not doing nothing for
your people neither, how are you any different?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
As a result, they end up referring to us as
people who don't respect human rights. Like he said, every
nigga jail, like I said earlier, every nigga jail ain't
Nelson Mandela, every every African leader who tries to talk
that talk about self governance and independence. You not doing
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nothing for your people. How are you any different? That's
why the world don't think you respect human rights.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
You ain't no different. I'm different. And it's true. Starvation
levels have dropped.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
They're making so much money already, he said. We African
heads of state must stop acting like check this out
the marionettes who dance each time the imperialists pull our strings.
My Mirraga talking that talk. He said this yesterday in
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July twenty seven. This was last year President Vladimir Putin
announced that free grain would be shipped to Africa. Now
we covered this before. They've been senting grain to Africa.
Free gain will be shipped to Africa. This is pleasing
and we say thank you for this. However, this is
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also a message to our African heads of state at
the next forum. We must not come here without having
any insured self sufficiency of the food supply for our people.
We must learn from the experience of those who succeeded
at achieving this. I thank you very much for your grain.
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We appreciate it. Now, if you say free, you better
mean free, because if not, you could keep it because
I don't know if you notice, we're in Africa.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
We can grow everything.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
There's diamonds in the dirt, and for too long we've
just let y'all come over here with strings attached. I'll
give you grain if you give us diamonds. All of
a sudden, there's less grain and a lot of diamonds
given all of a sudden. We in these civil wars,
and we consider the savages, and we the militias, we
the insurgencies. Well, we just trying to get these imperials
out here because we just dance monkey dance every time
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y'all come in here. Nah, fam, I'm done dancing for y'all.
You can help me, that's great, but I'm done dancing
for y'all. You can't talk like that in front of
these white people. Bruh's brought change. Listen, do you know
what he's doing. This man got plans for a nuclear
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power plant. Do you know that they're making electric cars.
I'm gonna say this again, this African country. You never
heard of is making electric cars. Y'all are in the
wrong informational pipeine for you to understand what's actually happening
in Africa.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Now, it ain't all roses because there was a there
was a coup.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
There was a coup attempt, and this is where America, Americas,
the belief of that coup attempt was put together by
what they believe was Western forces. I'm giggling because we've
(46:52):
done this before. We've done it with Moza Deck. We
do this all the time. We destabilize countries all the time,
and then we take someone who is a hero to
their people and we call them dictators. Now, don't get
(47:16):
me wrong, there's a heightened surveillance state out there right.
There is accusations of human ghosts, gross crimes against humanity,
of course there are. But don't it seem so convenient
that the person that said you could keep your money
and I'm a tap in with who I want to
(47:37):
tap in with, and it's not your business anyway. The
person that said you can't just keep taking our goal
like this, that maybe we don't need your money, that
maybe we can build our own nuclear plans, Maybe I
don't need American cars maybe we can make our own
and ours won't need gas.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
The heat of dictator.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Ica don't like black excellence, to which I say, we
should keep being excellent.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
So we'll see what's going on. There might be problems
with that man.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
We don't know that, but we also know that's not
our business anyway.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
We seem to only care when you mess with our money.
Good politics, y'all.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.
You better listen to these credits. I need you to
finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay,
so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded
in East Boyle Heights by your boy Propaganda. Tap in
with me at prop hip hop dot com. If you're
(49:04):
in the Coldbrew coffee we got Terraform Coldbrew. You can
go there dot com and use promo code hood get
twenty percent off get yourself some coffee. This was mixed,
edited and mastered by your boy Matt Alsowski killing the
beat softly. Check out his website Matdowsowski dot com. I'm
a speller for you because I know M A T
(49:26):
T O S O W s ki dot com.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Matthowsowski dot com. He got more music and.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Stuff like that on there, so gonna check out the heat.
Politics is a member of cool Zone Media, Executive produced
by Sophie Lichterman, part of the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your
theme music and scoring is also by the one and
overly Mattowsowski. Still killing the beat softly, so listen. Don't
let nobody lie to you. If you understand urban living,
(49:56):
you understand politics.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
next week.
Host
Prop
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