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December 8, 2021 43 mins

The most successful drug cartel of our time is the Sackler family. today we talk about how they ran the streets better than any cartel.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Y'all know who El Chappo is. He's uh seeing a
lot of crime cartel. I'm kind of smiling when I
say this because, like you know, Chappo's final den Maize
was a little comical. He's nothing to laugh about, you know.
He's I mean, is the one of the most notorious

(00:21):
like Escobar level Mexican crime cartel bosses. I mean just
he wiled the sene Lot cartel. Look, you know, floating
bodies ashore and dangling from street signs like they was.
They was wild. Uh, And you shouldn't know because like
Narcos Season three is in a lot of ways, it's
about Chapo. Um if you watch that type of stuff. Anyway,

(00:46):
it's kind of funny because like one of the things
Choppo is known for he kept escaping from prison. He
you know, we're just like figured out tunnels and you
know a lot of the tunnels through you know, the
border down south like that was Choppo. And then they
did that, you know what I'm saying. Um, But then
he asked for this like interview with this actress and

(01:07):
Sean Penn just this weird thing that happened at the end.
I was like, okay, but Anyway, Choppo finally got his
come upings towards the end. But the thing about Choppo
is that he just kept getting away with He just
kept he kept escaping from prison like it was just

(01:28):
you know, his drug game crazy. He just kept escaping.
And it's it's not funny because of the thousands of
lives that were ended because of him at all. That is,
it's awful, just the brutality of it all. But that
man just kept kept getting away. He just kept just

(01:51):
they lock about he'd be free, like you just can't couldn't.
They couldn't hold him in a sale. Oh man, add
might like I just always have money. Ready, let's talk
about the Sackler family farmer produce hood politics right now?

(02:12):
Who politics, y'all? Hood politics? Yo? This show called Choppo Wetto.
I don't know why it today. It was so funny
to beat what I do because wetto is uh, you know,
it's slang for like white boys, So like wet o

(02:33):
wet that's like you know, white boy, white girl, and
the animalogy of that we just don't have time for.
But it's slang like sometimes drive what's double about? Like
like cholo kind of Mexican slang and even just Spanish
in general, like a lot of the same words can
scale in intensity and vulgarity, pending on the context. Because

(02:56):
my wife's family they from southern Mexico, from Alca Poco,
so they are mostly because of the transatlantic slave trade.
They're mostly pretty dark skinned down there. My wife, however,
of the dark skinned are on. She's one of the
lighter ones in her family. Now, she ain't light at all,
especially when she get to America. Like, no, that's a
brown girl, you know what I'm saying. But her granddaddy

(03:19):
black as hell, like he's a black man. So they
call her wetto like in her family, you know, saying
like or not wet, a wetter they called her wetter
like uh when she go when we went down to
getto in Acapolca, they were like what I what I
They were calling her wetter because like to them, she
fair skinned, you know what I'm saying. It's like anyway,
so they don't mean it as a disk, but sometimes

(03:40):
they do. You feel me, Sometimes we do, or sometimes
it's like I don't know, it's just anyway, I'm off topic.
I'm talking about this crime cartel family like them at
drug dealers. I listen, this is you talking white version
of Escobard. The colleague Cart said, l niggad a drug dealers.

(04:02):
There's another way where they pushers. These are cara fuls
like they're it's drugs. I'm talking about the Sackler family.
It's just the difference is these drugs was legal and
they just having to get away with it until now.

(04:22):
But then they still kind of got away with it,
which is why I'm calling these folks chop old weddow.
Now let's get to it. So I'm talking about the

(04:48):
opo yoid epidemic in recent court cases. I'm gonna tell
you some recent court cases, and I don't want to
back up talk to you about the Sacler family itself
talking about the war on drugs, talk about kind of hood.
Can tell you how we knew this was gonna play out?
You know what I'm saying, How if white supremacy wasn't
such a thing, then maybe we could have guided each

(05:09):
other through navigating this moment. Because we didn't win through
this war on drugs. We know, we know, we know
what happened when an institution pushes a product onto our
community convinces us this the only way out and then
punishes us for actually using the product you sold us.

(05:29):
I mean this, y'all call it the opioid epidemic. We
called it the crack attack. The only difference is we
ended up in jail for forty years. Yeah, I mean systemic, y'all. Anyway,
I'm gonna walk y'all through. I'm talking about the sketch,
what the difference between schedule one schedule to narcotic and
what this now means for the future of jail, justice

(05:54):
and sentencing. So this is gonna be a pretty dense one.
But the sacklers, I'm a quote from an NPR article. Oh,
there's also a show Hulu show called Dope Sick that
kind of talks a little bit more about the opioid epidemic,
which is just essentially white people crack attack like that.
I don't know as sucks, but I mean as it's

(06:14):
hard to not look from the inner cities and look
at what happened to y'all and be like, oh, nay,
we know how this play out, your hope saying Anyway,
although there are a lot of like you know, um,
these are broad strokes. There's a lot of things that
aren't one to one ratios that are are not fair

(06:34):
for me to say it's that simple because it's not.
And I mean, come on, now, how we do this show?
It's only thirty minutes long, like we you know what
I'm saying, like, there's only so much nuance if you
feel me I can give you. And I'm not saying
that to give myself off the hook. I don't know
why I'm giving this long explanation. The point is is
a very complicated concept. It's kind of like the what

(06:57):
we did, the like the U Outside episode with Israel
and Palestine, and then like the Fear of the clap
Back one about the Armenian genocide. Uh. These are nuanced,
complicated concepts that in a lot of ways I'm not
doing them justice. But uh, I still think if you
understand the hood, you understand politics. So here we go.

(07:17):
The Sacklers made billions from oxycotton, Fenton all and all
these different opioids that we're in, these painkillers that has
decimated Middle America. You know now, And when I say
Middle America, okay, that's okay. Let me there's another disclaimer.

(07:37):
It's other people besides white people. That live in Middle America.
I mean, Kansas City is in Middle America. Just it's
it's a gang of black people with Ganga City it's
gang of Latinos. Again. Anyway, that's I'm off point. But Oxycotton,
as we know like that, then that's stuff. Stuff killed y'all,

(08:00):
White Fox Boy. It ran through y'all's hood like crack
ran through ours. Why because it's freakishly addictive, unbelievably addictive,
and it's hard I'd be hard pressed to say that
there is not of all the listeners of his show
that like there's a high percentage of y'all that either
struggle with it or have lost somebody or got some

(08:23):
damn homies over over this stuff, or people in jail
over addictions, which I'm getting ahead of myself because I'm
gonna talking about, like when why is it a crime
to be addicted? You know that's that's Isn't that a
health issue? Not criminals? Size point? So anyway, Uh, the
way that crime and punishment is supposed to work is

(08:45):
if I mean, you lie to the public about a product,
so the product knowing full well it was gonna cause
the type of damage as he caused you're pushing something.
You know it's deadly. You the p sure, so you
know the cornerboy up to the connect, up to the pusher,

(09:08):
up to the supply. Y'all are supposed to go to jail.
Who posted get the most time? Is the supply the pusher?
You need to pay for this, like you didn't cause
ear reversible damage in multiple millions of famioun billions, but

(09:29):
multiple families, just you're criminally liable to which the sacklers
were like, yeah, but we broke though, so they was like, look,
I ain't got it. Yeah, these billionaires was like, yeah,
I ain't got it. So uh, maybe if you could

(09:51):
sue the company Perdue Pharma, which they owned, but us
personally we bankrupt. We ain't got it. You have a
loan superce somebody owe your money and they're like, yo,
I ain't got it, but I put something on it.
Like that's that's real. Oh it's cool. It's like look man,

(10:12):
let me Yeah, I put something on it. Hey, listen
to help me. You know, there's some people you should
never borrow money from, or you should never loan money too,
because you ain't gonna get your money. You ain't gonna
get it back. You just just know it's a gift.
They ain't gonna have it. And then other people you know,
got it, they're just not giving it to you. Ah, man,
I got you. I'm gonna get you next week. I'm
gonna get you next week. Some nice shoes you got there, big,

(10:32):
I've seen you at the club blowing some honey. You
know what I'm saying. He blew a bottle of heney.
He was in v I P talking about you ain't
got the money you owe me. Though, So in a
civil suit they declared bankruptcy and now they have one
immunity from opioid lawsuits. M niggas is a meal. They

(10:54):
don't have to pay the company d but they don't.
And then it gets even crazier because not only did
the pusher, but now also the corner boys. And in
this situation, the corner boys ain't a boy. It's CVS,
Walgreens and Walmart they held liable. That's crazy. This is

(11:20):
like this would mean like, okay, something else going on
here now in the streets. We would know that, Like
you know, if you get caught with intent to sell,
unless you give up your connect, you know, you complete
for for for a you know, a lower sentence if
you give up the connect. But you know if you
give a connect dyeing right, you know what I'm saying

(11:41):
like that you can give up the connect. You feel me,
you just have somebody like you know what I'm saying.
You got popped. You keep your mouth shut because when
you get back, when you get back out on the streets,
you want to be able to like put on again.
You wanna be able to get back up. You know
you down, use up, you down now you wanna be
able to get back up when you get back out,
right I'm saying right like like you know this al right,
but anyway you get popped like you you know what

(12:03):
I'm saying, like, you gotta like you know, you just
do your time and just hope everything work out right.
But you're going to jail in this situation. I didn't
think you could put I didn't think the story. I
didn't think that the cornerboy CVS. Walgreens would be would

(12:24):
have to like pony up. They got a pony up,
and they their definition was like fam or not. Their
definition Their defense was like fam, we're not, We're not.
The doctors were just the store. You tell us what
it's our job to figure out if this we just

(12:45):
I'm just the store, fam you feisota store. We ain't
that we y'all prescribed it. Somebody walk in with a prescription.
It's just our job to give. You give the person
what you told us to get him. We're proposed to
notice is bad. They said, you shows you're making money
off all this and when money and hands is exchanged,

(13:07):
big on me, Like obviously, look so somebody gotta pay.
And what you're seeing right here, somebody used to say
all the time, Hey, listen, bosses don't go to jail.
Bosses figured it out. Bosses are they go out in
the blaze of glory, big homie these look just look
what old wet dot got active dog. They was like, oh,

(13:29):
we ain't got it, but you can shoot. You can
see the business though business got this much? Why would
you do that? Because you can't go back because the
name burnt, You can't go back to being produced farmer
and you get after something like this, So go ahead
and burn the name. You don't say were good, but
gonna burn the name? It don't that don't make sense
to you? That makes perfect sense to be That's what
that's what they did. Okay, now let me I'm jumping

(13:51):
all over the place because this is so thick. So
the Sackler family is the founders of the company Perdue Farmer.
Who are the people responsible for dropping these opioids on
our streets? But let's go back. We got to go
back a lot of ways. Let's go back. First of all,

(14:12):
two the concept of pain. Let's take a break. All right, Yo,

(14:53):
we're back, man. I hope y'all. Uh shout out Headlights,
matt Our, salt Ski. I think that was close enough.
Uh Yo, these tracks are brand new man. He I
mean he do them every week. I want to shout
to hem, y'all, y'all hearing all these like scoring he
didn't put out a record. He he didn't put out
his like his playlist. We're gonna try to get some

(15:14):
of these songs placed in other places. But like, man,
tell that food like drop the album. Do them like
you do them, like y'all doing West Side Boogie, Like
hey dropped the album. So I saw I'll be like,
every time he shows me a new track, I'll be like,
drop the album anyway. Uh, he's at Headlights Underscore music
and tell him drop the album. Um have be so

(15:36):
funny as that dropped the album for just bombless fools
Instagram anyway. Okay, so for most of medical history, I mean,
I'm dead serious. For most of medical history, pain was
not a prescribed thing. It's a diagnosed thing. Pain is

(16:02):
not a thing. Pain is what happens when a thing
is wrong. This is it's the it's the indicator. It's
not the thing. It's the indicator of the thing. You
don't treat pain. Pain is the signal that tells you
you have to treat something. Are you you're following me?
So there was no pain medicine. There was no pain

(16:27):
killers other than whiskey, you know, or just getting high, right,
But like that, it wasn't a thing. So even when
you go to the doctor and they give you a
scale of like on a scale of one, it's end
like what's your pain level? Like somebody had to think
of that. And it's pretty modern because pain it wasn't.

(16:47):
You don't prescribe it. It's if you fall and you
break your arm. You don't go my arm hurts, You
go my arm's broken. God need to I need to
fix the bone. Don't fix the the pain goes away
when you fix the problem. That seems pretty logical, right,

(17:12):
But then there was things like chronic pain, right, because
some stuff is not fixable. When you have a chronic disease,
that which means it's not going away, something like arthritis,
you know what I'm saying, tendonitis, different types of things
that happen to our bodies that are just they're not
going away, Like there is no treating it. All you

(17:33):
could do is try to live your life, and the
way to do that is to reduce the pain. So
that's when pain became a thing. So Perdue Pharma, this company,
uh basically the parents of the Sacklers that we know of.

(17:57):
They had this idea, uh that said, well, nobody's out
here dealing with chronic pain. There's no there's nothing on
the market just for the pain. Of course Thailand all
bear and stuff like that, right, but like just just

(18:20):
it's a pain pill. What if and they had this
idea like, okay, this is back at six, what if
we uh just treat the pain because pain sucks. We
already have this like slow release opioid, but what if
we like make it to where it's not as clearly

(18:44):
an opium and have it kind of slow releasy, and
we could do it in pill form and it won't
be as quote unquote addictive because it's slow release. Like
you can to be addicted to something that's slow released.
Is the logic they said out loud, and painkillers in

(19:06):
oxycotton hits the streets. Now why this is so crazy
is because Nigga, it's opium, Like it's an old u
uh poppy plant Afghanistan, it's opium. You remember opium. You
remember all them old pictures and old racist pictures of
Chinese people leaning back on the tapestry with the smoke
that was called opium dens. So if you smoked opium,

(19:27):
it was considered to be I'm using these racial terms oriental, Asiatic.
It was Eastern, you know what I'm saying. So this
idea of like they're just smoking the stuff, so like
that version of opium was not supposed to be that
was that was low class. But if it's in a
pill form a look different. As as a side, there's

(19:51):
an interesting site note the first people to get addicted
to doctor prescribed drugs, which at the time was opium
or Southern white women. It I'm pausing for effect they
were that. I mean that was the first like drug outbreak.
Why well, because their husbands were out at war, their

(20:14):
sons were coming back in body bags, and they had
enough money to go to the doctor to prescribe what
they used to call the melanchoeagues when you were just
you were just sad. So then they give them these
little little hits, these little happy things too cheer them up.
They were actually the first to be addicted to the
do you google? Very interesting thing, you know what I'm saying.

(20:36):
But like it's different when it's high class and you're
not just a druggie you have the melancholies. Oh God,
telling y'all man, there's no there is no end of
the black hole of inequalities in our country anyway. Um,
So back to this deal. So that's so that's the

(20:58):
history of like of of a pain killer, right is
like it's made up. It's it's opium that you're supposed
to be non addictive, which as we know, fast forward
a year and a half now and it's super addictive,
matter of fact, more addictive than and then in the
rest of them and the Saclo family and Produe Farma
purposefully hit that content and those researching like it was

(21:23):
on purpose. They didn't tell nobody because they drug dealers.
So since now you know, the opio has been recognition
reck in the woods, you know, smashing everybody. So but
this federal Judge, Robert Draine approved the bankruptcy settlement a

(21:45):
couple of wednesdays ago that grant the Sackler's global peace
from any liability from the opioid epidemic. They got their
choppo on because though he himself, the judge himself was like,
this is trash, but I mean, what can I say,
which again is another argument of how great our justice
system works. Rich and guilty or you poor and innocent.

(22:08):
Look rich and guilty, you good? Anyway? Um, they still
the Sacklers still ain't apologized, They still denied all wrongdoing.
They was like, man, it sucks, that sucks that y'all died,
But you know, I mean, we didn't pinion down and
put it in your army. You know what I'm saying. Um,
But yeah, no opioid lawsuits now perdue. Pharma itself played guilty.

(22:30):
The company, the Corporation which cordin Old Mitch McConnell Corporations
of People. The Corporation got to plead guilty. But the
Sacklers themselves are free in the clear. Now let's learn
a little bit about the Sacklers themselves. Now, the Cacler
family come from the descendants of Isaac Sackler and his

(22:51):
wife Sophie, the Jewish immigrants um to the United States
from Ukraine and Poland and anyway, they established this grocery
business in Brooklyn. He had three sons, Arthur more to
More and Raymond Sackler. They went to medical school and
they became psycho psychiatrists. Right. Uh. They were often cited

(23:14):
as like early pioneers, Like, I mean, all this stuff
is super Wikipedia easy to find, right, But they were
early innovators of a lot of medical techniques which became
common practice, like lombotomies, like cutting brains opened. Right. Um.
They were actually first to fight for racial integration in

(23:35):
blood banks. I mean it's complicated, right. Then they bought
this small fart summutical company produced Frederick and Raymond and
more and More ran Perdue while author of their younger
brother became a pioneer and like medical advertising, follow me,
one dude new to science, the other dude new to marketing.
What a perfect, perfect, perfect perfect combo. So then, like

(24:00):
I said in Perdue Farmer, uh introduced oxycotton. It's a
version of oxycoding reformulate. It's a slow release, right, and
it was heavily promoted. Why because they know how to
push weight. Well, I tell you about Cornball. I tell
you about this whole time, this thing like you know
your your your street Hustler is a brilliant marketer. They're

(24:21):
brilliant business people. They just in a thing that the
company that the country don't respect. It's just they should
just should have sold different drugs, because then Produce Farmer
would have been you know, uh Jenkins and Gonzalez. You
know what I'm saying. I don't know. The point is,
uh WHOI la amazing marketing, incredible addictive product, get you

(24:48):
the opioid epidemic. So they heavily produced it. Then Elizabeth Sackler,
which is the daughter of Arthur Sackler, claimed that her
branch of the family did not practice or benefit by
the sales of narcotics. Uh NIGGD. I don't know how
you couldn't have. But everybody who's watching this, everybody who
lost somebody, everybody who was empowered. I was watching this
was like on their head, like, no, nigga, we know

(25:10):
what the hell you did. And while a lot of
the opioid crisis because the stuff was so addictive and
it was so easy to get and you can get
high quick, get high easy, and you could just go
to the store. Can you like you just went to
the store and got it, while I opio epidemic. And

(25:30):
again I can't stress this enough. I am not doing
this justice right. But they were in the process and
really succeeding on selling legal drugs which were more deadly
than a lot of drugs that are at the time
not legal, Which gets us to the next part is

(25:52):
how do you decide what's the difference between a medicine
pharmaceutic cool or a narcotic drug? Dance? After this? Yea,

(26:45):
all right, Now you may have heard these phrases before,
but they're called the scheduling of narcotics. Right now, this
is at you could go, I mean any any you
know food and Drug Administration, any drug any uh you know?
Now sal database about the scheduling of drugs that helps
you understand how they decide and what the criteria is

(27:06):
to decide which is which. Now the I'm gonna start
on the bottom so you can understand the scheduling. A.
Schedule five narcotic is robot using like cough, sir, like
robotusing you know what I'm saying. Uh, motor fin which
is like motoring stuff like that basic over the counter.
Schedule four those are Zannies. They got some issues, but

(27:28):
it's fine ambient volume, right. So ma, these are drugs
that you need. Obviously you need to. You shouldn't be
popping Zanni's for fun. You know, you can ask lotsan
that's a that's a young person joke. Schedule three tailing
all with codeine, antibiolic steroids, and testosterone. Okay, now we're

(27:50):
getting a little more like y'all you need to pay
attention to what you're doing. But this stuff still over
the over the counter. Now watch this. Schedule two. Okay,
cocaine meth oxy coding adderall rittling and vicating. So these
is like, okay, we're getting serious. You're telling me that cocaine,

(28:15):
meth and oxy coding are not even number one my nigga.
Day number two cocaine meth oxycoding adderall rittling. So the
schedules have to do with the amount of regulation, right,
and which is a crime or not? Okay, So obviously

(28:39):
once you get into the meth and coding, you know,
meth cocaine, like, okay, this is a crime. You can't
just be having this. You want to know if the
number one Schedule one narcotic is marijuana, heroin, l s D, ecstasy,

(29:03):
in magic, mushrooms. Does that list seem arbitrary to you?
Does that list seem like maybe it's not based in science,
Maybe it has much more to do the politics then science.
You're telling me, y'all gotten married, y'all got merry, y'all
got weed. You could uber eats weed. They gets an

(29:26):
app called ease out here in California. Are you could
like that deliver it to the crib? Marijuana is on
the same line as heroin. You're telling me, what's the
scientific basis that you got cocaine as less dangerous? There's

(29:52):
some pot? You know what The answer is, There isn't
any You got no scientific bevaness to prove. Why didn't
get and why? Of all these words? Why is one
of them? In Spanish? Marijuana is the Spanish word for cannabis. Why?

(30:14):
Why all the other stuff? Why are you calling it that? Well,
I'll tell you why. I'm glad you asked, uh Nixon mixings,
why you're calling this calling it that and it's fucking racist? Why?
Uh one, Well, maddie Juana is the Spanish word from it,

(30:36):
and it was coming up from Mexico, So there's that.
But we do it was called cannabis when it was
called pot. We knew we had other names for this stuff,
but yeah, it was coming up from Mexico, right, Um,
But the idea was, when you're launching the war on drugs,
you attach these drugs with the people that you also
don't want to round. So you're calling marijuana. Uh this

(31:00):
marketing you call it marijuana. I mean, google me, fact
check me. You call it marijuana for the purpose of
making it seem, according to them, low class and exotic.
You know what I'm saying, Like it's dirty. There's madikuana.
It sounds more evil than just just pot. While at

(31:25):
the same time, again do your Google's. The United States
of America holds all future patents for any medicine that
comes out of marijuana research to this day, they've had
it for decades, while at the same time keeping it
a schedule one. Now why is it staying in schedule one?
Because you have to do uh, federally funded research to

(31:48):
prove that, hey, this is actually very beneficial to us.
Now you again. Now I'll scroll down to the magical
mushroom stuff, to the LSD, to the ecstasy extasy. I
ain't got no science on that one. But the LSD
and the magic must froom like cybercillin and stuff like that,
like that stuff has been proven with people to deal
with PTSD and and um really bad like head traumas

(32:09):
um to help, right that. I mean, that's what you know,
a lot of psychedelics have shown that, like, yeah, they
help with stuff like that. Like there's a I'll drop
some um. I don't have to drop him. I can
tell you her name. Now, hold on Suzanne Sicily. She's
at Humble Institutes for Interdisciplinary Marijuana Research. It's actually a

(32:30):
brilliant lady. Ive seen him speak at this thing up
in Eating Prayer, Utah, I believe it or not, I
was up there with the white boys. That thing costs summit.
It's incredible. Anyway. Yeah, she's done a bunch of research
with um vets, with with war vets dealing with serious
PTSD and like, look up her research. It's like, yo,
she works, y'all right, but without getting too far in

(32:53):
the weeds. Um, there's only one university that is uh
federally proved two. Build all your test studies for two
prove that marijuana is a useful medicine. But it's you
have to do it from this stuff that's like powder
form that's all stem and like something you've never smoked,

(33:14):
Like no one it's like dirt weed, Like no one
would smoke this. It's so it's like you're already starting
with like the worst possible strand ever. But like like
this is a billion dollar industry, like come on now, uh,
but it's still federally schedule one. Like yeah, I wonder,
I wonder why you know what else is not on

(33:38):
this list is you may think it's crack, but again,
crack is if you don't know this crack is actually
just cheap versions of cocaine. Um. But then we could
talk about the eighteen and one laws, and I don't
want to get into that. This is about choppo, right,
So yeah, here I'm gonna quote from from this uh
vox article about the scheduling of narcotics. So the War

(34:04):
on drugs was initiated when much of the nation was
in hysterics about what drugs will do to the quote
normal fabric of our country. Y'all know what the quote means. UM,
it may be helpful to think of scheduling system as
made up of two distinct groups, the non medical and
the medical. The non medical compromises the Schedule one drugs,

(34:25):
which are considered to have no medical value or high
potential for abuse. The medical group comprised in Schedules two
through five, which have some medical value and are numerically
rank based on the abuse potential. Uh, there are some
cultural considerations in the scheduling system. The War on drugs
was initiated at a time which minist of the nation

(34:47):
was in hysterics about what drugs like marijuana, cannabis, and
LSD would do to the fabric, the moral fabric of
our country. Marijuana was seen as dangerous, but not necessarily
because of its direct health benefits, but it's perception partially
rooted in racial injustices. The pot makes people immoral, lazy,

(35:10):
and even violent. Wait makes your violet. I don't know
what we drew had. The perception persists among many supporters
of the War on drugs to this day, and it's
still reflected in America's drug scheduling. Beyond the scheduling system,
the federal government imposes criminal trafficking penalties on drugs that

(35:34):
are not always aligned with their scheduling. For instance, marijuana
trafficking is generally punished less for less since severely than cocaine.
U states governments set up their own criminal penalties and
schedules for drugs as well. So that's the way to
think about drugs scheduling. Now back to our situation we're

(35:59):
dealing with here with the perdue farm of family, all right,
the Sacular family, Perdue farm of country. They're dealing with
a schedule to drug on the line with Riddling and
Viking and lied about its degree of potential of abuse,
right because they said it was non addictive. Clearly it
is and decimated our country. I keep I want to

(36:22):
keep saying this to you. It decimated our country. And
now they're not liable. They were able to declare bankrupt
and they got to be l Choppo out this mug
now more LA's story. Bosses don't go to jail, and
especially boss white people unless the white people to start
deciding you sucking up the money. So what did they do?

(36:45):
They put the baby to sleep? You kill the company.
The company played guilty. You can always start a new company. Yeah,
it's you can always bounce back. Last night took a hell,
but tonight I'll bounced back. You get your chopow. You
know what I'm saying. Let him put you down, you
get out. You be all right? Now, what's our takeaway?

(37:08):
Our takeaway is this, there are a lot of young
families who found themselves with the cousin and uncle auntie,
somebody facing severe criminal charges over the use of these opioids.
Now these people are in lawsuits against the companies and

(37:30):
the retail outlets for which put these drugs in their hands. Right,
what we've said time and time again about being abolitionists,
about being about criminal justice reform, is you're penalizing a
person for there biology reacting the way that our biology

(37:52):
would when you put an addictive substance in it. If
you take cocaine in crack form, you are going to
be addicted. That's just it's our biology. If you're taking opioids,
you're going to be addicted. Addiction can't be criminal. Y'all,
Like that's just now, what you do when you're high,

(38:13):
that's a different story. Then you've committed a crime. But
having a possession of a drug that's clearly addictive. We
got to rethink this, and especially when the person that
put it in my hands it's not criminally liable. Some

(38:34):
may write, I mean, I'm just what does that mean
to us? That mean that, Like, well, there's a lot
of non violent offenders sitting in the prisons right now
that some states have let go, have expunge charges, like
a lot of like, uh, marijuana charges, David, let go,
because I mean this it is legal in most states.

(38:55):
Like this is crazy, Like why are you still in
jail for this? That's number one. Number two. Maybe we
need to interrogate the entire system itself. Maybe somebody needs
to get into office and think about what do how
who decided these schedulings, and how can we change this?
Do I do we have a say in how drugs

(39:17):
are scheduled? Because clearly this these choices are cultural. They're
not scientific, right, They're not. It's not based on this
ain't based on science, obviously, it's based on lobbyists. I mean,
I just based on American fears. What the article just said,

(39:40):
and finally, we need to figure out a way to
hold those that are accountable accountable. How do we do
that from the hood, Well, I don't know. I know
war on drugs felt like the war on the poor.

(40:03):
I know this opioid epidemic feel real similar. And I'll
be honest with you, I was hoping that this would
have been a bridge across supremacy to say, man, let's listen, listen, listen, listen,
You're being crushed by the same system. I am. This
This why, this is why I always pushed back when
people say, when you talk about white supremacy, that mean

(40:25):
you hate white people. I'm like you, you you can't
you white people crushed by white supremacy too. It it's
hurting you too, just like you can't. Power loves power.
It's hurting you too. You should be chatting just as
loud as we are, because it's hurting you too. They've

(40:52):
finna get off, y'all. It's you know, they're gonna get off.
Guess who're gonna pay for it? Though now in their defense,
they've already pledged two billion dollars two the families who

(41:15):
suffered from the opioid crisis. I'm gonna give you all that.
That's a lot of money. What is it? Justice? See it?
I can't call it. Shout out chop old wet hop
yea yea, y'all. This mug was recorded and edited by

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Me Propaganda right here in East low'st Boil Heights, Los Angeles.
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