July 26, 2023 • 40 mins
Sometimes it be your own people out here making you look weak. Lets talk about the almost coup in Russia.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, So look, I don't know if you know this,
but Russia has eleven time zones, Like y'all don't realize
how big Russia is. It's like you, I remember, it's
the eleven times America got three four if you count Hawaii,
which I guess is America.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So but mainland America it's only three times zoned. Russia
got eleven, y'all? Do you understand how big that must be?
I heard on this other show called The Take It's
an al Jazeer pod. The comparison was like, the distance
from tip of Russia all the way to the Pacific
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Ocean is the same distance from Russia to Chicago. Russia
that big, which would mean that you can't control that
from one place. That mean your legend gotta be way
larger than your action will pull.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And how you do that?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I mean, I mean, remember this is a hood of politics.
You get respect through fear. I mean, you could try
to earn everybody love, but sometime power to I mean,
everybody up under you just as hungry as you are.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But if they scared, that's a different story.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So you gotta have shooters that got shooters they got
to know that you like, look, I wish I wish
one of you jokers would. I don't care how long
I known you. I don't care who you are. I
don't care what you I don't care what you've been on.
Don't don't bring don't you don't want to smoke with me?
Like I saw a clip with an old clip of Gucci.
He's like, look, man, now bring it to me. I'm
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with all that. I'm with all that.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You got the right one?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Because if you don't get it, the old phrase used
to be like, hey, man, you got the wrong one.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I am not the one.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know what I'm saying, which is usually the warning
to be like hey, don't play with me, like I'm
gonna break you. He's like, no, nigga, Like he just
put a twist on it, like, no, I'm the right one.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I can't wait to wipe y'all out. I want it all.
I want to smoke. I mean, my scout, just one
city in a place that's it's so big, Like, how
do you control it? You gotta be scared of me.
You gotta know I'll poison you. I'll throw you out
a window. But sometimes yoe, it be your own people?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Ain't that right? Black politics?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Y'all? All right, y'all, welcome to another crimea River episode.
Nobody do At least I didn't know this was gonna
be like my Fast and Furious franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
This f ten out the mug. Too fast, too furious?
You feel me? It's about family where.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I still swear that the Fast and Furious they done
lost the thread a long time ago. Just physics don't matter,
nor just storyline. You know, we just gonna drop drop
a car. We're gonna attach a car to a helicopter.
Nigga like, like, what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
What are we doing? We're gonna save the world with
our fast cars? Anyway, Crime a River. I don't know
what number this is? This this did it be your
own people? Because man, have you ever heard that phrase?
Answer me?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I wait, oh wait, this is a one directional conversation.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's just essentially like you know, when your oh, when
your own folk, when they cracked the joke, when they
drag you, when they take you out.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You'd be like, dang it be your own people.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I don't know if you know this, but the police
don't be solving crimes. I'm pretty sure you know that
the police don't be preventing crime either. The police looking
for somebody who know what's happening and try to convince
them to snitch.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Don't let CSI fool you. The police don't solve nothing.
And if you go into one of them crime labs,
you know where they looking at DNA analysis, you expecting
to see somebody gorgeous inside of that thing, in a
full face of makeup like CSI Miami.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
He'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I hope you understand that that is not how that
lab look with the cool neon lights in the back.
You feel me like, come on, y'all's that ain't how
it go. And again I need you to understand, the
police don't solve nothing. It's always your own people that's
who take you out every time. But if you can
scare your own people enough, maybe they'll think twice about
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what they doing.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I saw this clip with fifty.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now, some of y'all may think that's an old nigga
ay oh, but the legend of his ga thanks and
the continual prowess in it is, it's.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Just it's so great.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So he was in this interview, and the thought was okay.
The interviewer was like, yo, if you if you hit me,
like if you slap me in the face, nigga, it's up.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
This is what I'm gonna do. I'm like, I'm about
to be rich.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm gonna go tell my other homies to slap me
more and I'm gonna say you did it, and I'm
pay him a little bit slap me more and say
you did it. We're all gonna get rich. And fifty
was like, listen, that don't bother me at all, because
this is what I do. I'll go find your own
homies and pay them the total of what you would
have paid all of them collectively. I'll just pay them
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individually that number. And then all of a sudden, nobody
remembers anything. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
He say, listen.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Then he got real serious and it's like in the
most New York passion. He goes, hey, man, how much
you think it costs today to get somebody murdered? And
he just kind of like cleans his teeth real quick,
and he was just like about five six thousand dollars
and like like you have to understand like foods will
put you under the ground for a PS four, not
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even a five. You, I mean you in the right hood,
like you understand, like a four could still could do it,
and Nintendo Switch could do it. A couple of bands
all your A couple bands your man's will forget everything.
That's your boy, that's your hood, that's your homie you
grew up with.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What do you what do you? What do you?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
What?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Y'all?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
What y'all making them up? I mean, you know you
you pushing away for him? How much you how much?
What's your cut? You get that all right? Nigga?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I'a pay you double murder this nigga like it's just
there's no.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's just bread. I don't care who you signed up for.
It's just bread. So I know you hear goons in
them like real niggas. A lot of these young rappers
or even the OLG rappers. You gotta remember them old rappers,
them nineties rappers, nineties gangsters. They cut from a different cloth,
like they believed in something like they different Now. Of
course you got some exceptions when you got young dudes
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out here. That's like, you know, I bleed for this rag,
I bled for this color like niggas have died for this,
you know what I'm saying. So there are still a
small remnant of dudes that are out here like that,
But that ain't the normal case. If the bread right,
that's you, they get into the bag. You can't just
believe that these niggas is like down for the car. Okay,
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how long y'all been honies, You can't. You can't believe
just that that everybody just is bought into the cause
everybody with the shits they get into the bag. I mean,
that's that's just the rule. So you gotta keep them
niggas happy. You gotta keep them on payroll. And if
they step out of line, you can't just threaten to
take their money out. You got to threaten to take
their money. They life, they family life, their children. Like, nigga,
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you gotta get out this hood because as the hommy
d smokes say, one call and the nigga's gonna hydro plane.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
You know what I'm saying. He's like, Nigga, if you.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Get out of line, I can make one call and
I don't care about your toddler, nigga, like I don't
care about none of your baby's mamas. They all finna
be childless like there are some niggas that just don't.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Care.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So you have to be able to convince these people
that you like Gucci, I'm with it all. You chose
the right one. Don't do not step out of line
because you can't always count on You got your people
that signed up for it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You can count on them to an extent.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But then you got to have some people that was like, no, nigga,
pay me right, and if the bread right, I do
whatever you need me to do. But you gotta know
that if somebody else got the bread, nigga.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
We'll do that too.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But if you the type of leader where your mans
could actually turn on you, oh you done showing weakness.
Them niggas is taking notes. I mean why wouldn't they.
Now we know you can get touched. I mean we
all know you could get but now we know a
catalog your reign is it's a matter of time. There's
a grand opening and the grand closing. Nobody up forever.
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So if that's the case, then you better have a
succession plan set up. If you build a whole, you
build the whole thing around you, around your personality. You
ain't got no succession plan set up.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Bruh.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Then that means it's easy to top of this whole thing.
I just got to get you out the way, and
everybody got a price. Now here's where the dope crossover
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comes in. Jake han Rahim he got a new show
out called Russian Oligard right, because you know he'd be
doing that them deep cuts of journalism, and he like, look,
man Dizzy's rushing olive guards that keep dying, they keep
falling out of first story windows. Now you heard what
I said, they falling out first story windows. How you
fall out of a first story window and die? Because
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you could fill in the blank. Why you think they dying?
I think I know. I think you know too. So
these are those fair warnings to those who feel like
they may have something to say. The old lad like
the hommy legally height calling big bang pee.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Just in case you're thinking about letting something come out
of your mouth, you should ask what happened, you know
to old Sasha over here? You feel me Sasha have
been an oligard yas his whole his family been nobility
in Russia. Since you know Tzar Alexander that nigga dead now.
I don't know what happened. I heard he fell out
of a window right his nigga proving one one election
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by eighty percent. You know what I'm saying, Oh word,
you won by eighty percent. Yeah yeah, maybe keep your
mouth shut about him. But if you keep them goons
around you, you know what I'm saying, at some point, one
of them niggas might be like, you know what, I'm
kind of tired of the ship.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I'm like, I'm a shot calling myself.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm somewhat of a
gangstter myself, Like I don't understand why I got to
keep playing it low with you. And oftentimes when they
get that close to you and their goons, they see
how messy you are.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You know, when you when.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You know where the body is buried, you know you
at some point like things might start changing. I mean
that's you know. Look, I don't I look. I see
what you presenting to the world, and I get it.
I'm with it, you feel me, But like I know
where you lay ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I know your weaknesses.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I nigga, I know this shit like, so don't like, look,
don't bring that energy to me homeboy, like I'm different,
to which if you the boss, you need to respond like, okay,
well let's just see how different you are. So let's
let's get to it. Let's talk about the Wagner Group.
Y'all ready boom? So look, so a few weeks back, uh,
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there was somewhat of a mutant, the Wagner Group, which
I'm about to explain who they were. They decided to
turn their forces away from the Ukraine and back towards Moscow.
So they they was, they was marching. It really had
very little, very little resistance on their way there. Now
your next question should be, if you wasn't watching TV,
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who is the what is the Wagner Group? Well, the
Wagner Group is they hired guns. Remember I told you
you had you got your crew, you got your squad,
but then you got them dudes that are like, we're
here for the bag and we're crazy with them. The
niggas you just pay like where it's like I need
y'all to go out there and just brawlers. I'll pay
y'all though you feel me now. I don't know if
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you notice, but private armies are a thing for nations.
We you know, we have one, right you know who
run it is Betsy Devas's brother.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, Betsy Devas.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The the Department of Education. Lady her brother own own
an army. Now you would ask yourself, but I thought
the Armed forces was something noble, and.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know you sign up.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
We have four you know, and our brave troops out there,
you know, protecting our freedoms. Now, I don't know if
you notice, you might. I figure you pretty politically savvy
if you listen to my show. But if you don't know,
let me put you home. When America says we've only
had ten casualties and this was a success, they're reporting
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on people actually in the armed forces. However, it's not
our actual armed forces are the only people out there.
This man, Erik Prince, who is Betsy Devas's brother, has
an army out there that are the US government contracts with.
So when you say only ten, we only had ten
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American casualties, you're only reporting on the armed forces. You're
not reporting on how many other Americans died that was
part of Erik Prince's army. So they get to say
they get to tell us like because that's all they
have to do. Because remember you're a private company. Well,
I mean, if y'all die out there, that's I mean,
that's different. Like that's y you supposed to report on that.
We ain't got a report on that. So when they
get on the news and be like, yo, this was success,
we had very little American casualties. No, you had very
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little armed forces casualties. The other four hundred thousand people
that died, now, of course that's an exaggeration, but we'll
make it more feasible. The other three hundred and fifty
two one thousand men and women that died in the
line of duty weren't in the line of duty. They
just worked for this mercenary. So when you commit crimes
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against humanity, when you do these horrible Geneva code breaking
military atrocities, when you breaking into houses and burning food's
houses and taking women and children and eating their food,
you know, marching your mud all off, they rug, well,
that's not that's not the US military. Y'ah, y'all following me,
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do you know how good it is for army like
against take it to the streets and that I don't
know them niggas, that's not mine. They ain't one of ours.
I mean them niggas. But they them niggas is brothers,
like they just they the homies. I mean, but I
don't control them. They're not on a set I mean right,
I mean, come on, is it?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's brilliant. You just hire an army.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So the Wagner Group is an army that Russia has
used a ton of times. It's a private mercenary army,
I mean, and they are guilty of trillions of crimes
against humanity in Africa, in Iran, in the Middle East.
I mean, just disgusting, movie level, like nineties.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Movie level villains. Just a mission impossible.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Just think of the corniest, most cliche evil villain petrocities.
That's what that's that's what you do, right, you just
used to do that anyway. So the leader of this
group is this guy named Progosion. Now progross it from
the hood. Let me let me like, y'all up about Progosion. Okay, Pregosion.
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I'm not gonna say his name right because I'll speak Russian.
I'll be trying. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful.
Let me line y'all up about this Nick. So y'all
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got to know his backstory to understand how he even
connected with old lad So check this out, goes you
from the hood, I mean, stick up kid, just.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
A street dude, robberies.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Went to jail for murder, right, he did time for murder,
and nigga, he murdered this old lady with a knife.
Do you know how crazy you got to be to
murder somebody with a knife that's up close?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So he he from the block, right, So of course
he owns an army. Now he became wealthy. How he
become wealthy, Well, he used to have his hot dogs
stand y'all listening to me. His nigga was outside, you know,
selling a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You feel me?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
He was out there like don't go, don't go dog, right,
he was outside selling hot dogs. Which I said it
like that because that's some West Coast shit. But he
was just outside on the corner selling hot dogs. And
one story about how he got wealthy is uh, he
saved money from that opened up a restaurant and then
he started Then he went from the restaurant to the catering.
But when he had the dope little hot dog restaurant,
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a young shooter that was a part of the KGB
who was like really a talented upshot used to come
over there all the time named Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And Vladimir really liked homeboy.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And as Vladimir went up, he was like, dude, I'm
gonna call the homeboy I remember from the streets. Man,
they come come cater these parties. So he used to
cater all the birthdays. He got a little nickname that
he was Vladimir's cook. That was his little nickname. He
was talking about, man, you're talking about the chef to
cook nigga, the cook got it. Cook got an army
with a cook from the hood. So some believe one
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story is that's how he became out. He came up, like,
saved his money from the hot dog stand, built a
built a catering business, and then he bought an army.
Now and look, real ones stick together, no new friends.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They've been friends that long. So when when vlad got up.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
He got up?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Or the other story is which I both tend to
believe because I know hood niggas is here, y'all rich
from gambling. This nigga used to run casinos. And guess
who was in charge of the Ministry of gambling. Who
used to be over the casinos in Russia. Oh my homeboy, Vladimir.
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So here's what I think. It's both to see all
of the above, because if you listen, you gotta have
you gotta have both happening.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You never know which one of these licks is gonna land.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I think it's both, And for y'all to think it's
for studies some of this, like normal mainstream media to
think that it's one or the other means like, oh, nigga,
y'all not from the streets.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, listen, it's both.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Okay, man, every hood entrepreneur I know had another business,
you know what I'm saying. There was like, oh, nigga,
I'm a plumber. Oh yeah, no, I'll be doing construction.
I got this thing you know where I'll be a
you know I sent I sent the hommies out to
go like okay, ok cool, then we'll go with that.
Oh nigga, you flip you flip sneakers on eBay? Oh word, okay, yeah, nah,
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I got this little vending machine thing popping off. You
know what I'm saying, Like we just you know, I
just I got these ven machines. You know what I'm saying,
that's why we're doing trying to come up. Okay, word,
I got you anyway, Progrossen runs runs this uh this
Wagner group, the Wagner Group said a few weeks ago,
for y'all, I'm about tired of this ship.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
We out here dying, Nigga.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Y'all got us out here with you got like y'all, look,
look rewind the clock a little bit. Remember lad thought
this was gonna be a weekend trip taking out. Ukraine
sent the B team, sent the scent, the JV squad
and was like, oh we good, We'll just we'll be
we'll be back for you know, we could golf on Tuesday.
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You know what I'm saying, It'll be over. They was
not ready. They was not ready. Fades was requested and
fades was given. And you ain't realize that. You know,
Ukraine had Mohart in a little bit. They was with
the shits. They was out here scrapping, right, and they
was like, oh damn, we better spend to send the
big homies. They sent the big you know, Russia sent
the big homies out and they was getting the ass beat.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
How was they getting they ass beat? Nigga?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Because they're not trained, and they out here fighting with
weapons from nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And according to Ladd, he's like, well, I'm fighting the
entire West, damn. Man, Like it's just me against the world.
It's Russia versus everybody. They got the new T shirts
out right now. He like, Damn, how am I gonna wins?
But you gotta remember again, Russia the size of eleven
time zones. So you could just meet grind every man
you got, just send him out there. So it guess
what he was doing. He instituted the draft. He throwing
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out here your grandpa with the gout. Nigga, you ever
shot a gun, You ever seen a gun, You ever
drew a pitch of it, you ever smelled it. You
know somebody that's ever thought about a gun? Here?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Higgo won go out there and fight this war? Where
we going? I don't know. The drug sergeant will tell
you he was sending us.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Out here with your uncle Larry with the bad hip,
and you mad at the results. That's what prongrossing in
them is saying it's like, nigga, I got these. I mean,
it's only so much of us bro and who he
mad at because he's not dumb. He looking at Lad
because you remember Vlad throw people out of first story windows.
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He like, I'm mad at the Ministry of the Defense,
themod y'all not sending us no weapons, no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
No, you cool? Lad, you cool. It's your boy.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
It be your own people, Glad, that's what he's saying.
Your boy out here tripping man. He like, look, I'm sorry, Bro,
don't be mad at me.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Homeboy.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I'm supposed to be out here doing this thing, fighting
this thing. But your boy, now, your boy, your boy
fucking up. He not helping me get the things I
need to get. That was his first argument. Then the
argument grew once it caught a little wave right and
the wave he started, then it became just a whole
populoust vote.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's the elites now you've Lad, you cool? He not dumb.
It's the elites. Y'all just out here.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You know what I'm saying, You expecting all the results.
None of y'all want to come fight. So it's this
whole like populist argument. Knowing full well he wanted the populace,
he doing the Trump thing where it's like God's the
rich elites I'm like, nigger, you are a rich elite,
but either way, and the people of Russia is like, man, listen,
it's not that we're on your side, but I mean absolutely,
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you know. I mean, but yeah, you're right. I mean
it's fuck them. If you're gonna screw with them, I
guess I guess that's dope. So check this out. He
was like, all right, you know what, man, fuck this.
We headed to Moscow. So the final straw was again,
you got us out here looking like herbs, and I'm
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not gonna keep doing this.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I don't take ls.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But then he say his troops got attacked when the
Ministry of Defense ordered an airstrike, and according to Progrosion,
the Ministry of Defense don't like how I'm talking. I'm
making them look bad in front of the boss. I'm
not making you look bad, nigga, you are bad. The
Minister of Defense is like, if you don't shut your
ass up, man, you don't even go here. You just
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we pay you to be here, and stop talking about
our guys. You know you need to chill.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think you think you cool just because you and
Vlad go back. But nigga, don't think you can't get touched.
That's the Minister of Defence. It's like you shut your
whole ass up, nigga, you all have several seats. You
know what, man, look were playing.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We don't know what it is. We're not with the shits.
Watch this boom airstripe.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
That's maybe, but we know for a fact that that's
the Minister of Defence's attitude where it's like they are
looking at lad being like we lose it because of this, nigga.
He like we lose it for of this nigga. Now,
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if you' Vladimir Putin, there's a couple of ways you
gotta play this if you're gonna stay on top, because
right now it seem like, oh it's it's looks like
it's disloyalty and money camp home. What's wrong with your
wrong with your soldiers home? You can't get your soldiers
to get along? So if you if you Ukraine, you
got a big old bag of popcorn watching this shaking
them like sunflower seeds out here, My nigga, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Check you check, you check, you check your check.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
It's like shaking your sunflower seeds like dice popping them
in your mouth. You feel me, like, let's see what's good, hommy,
y'all better figure this shit out. Man out here making
memes about how y'all can't get along. So if you,
if you've lad, you know everybody watching how you play this.
You can't keep your holes in check. I mean, because
that's what they look like to us. You can't keep
your holes in check. Or you play the game like
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worry about at home? You saw all under control? Y
I got my house in check. You know, sometimes sometimes
the bitches don't get along. You feel me, you know,
we just got to see what's good? You feel me,
y'all work this out. I want to see you guys
work this out now, y'all, y'all work this out now,
like okay, no reason to be rude.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Now let me now, let me hear what you got
to say.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You play the big daddy role where it's like, don't
worry about it, y'all like I got it. Let me
let me hear what they talking about. Okay, you mad?
You ain't get your toy?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Does that? Is that not?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
You don't feel you don't feel loved? Okay, now look
at your friend, look at the Ministry of defense. Tell
them how you feel, now, Ministry Defense, how does that
make you got to play it like you running things
and at the same time being like, well, y'all, you know,
if you don't figure this shit out, you dying right,
because I noticed neither one of you are blaming me
(26:49):
because you got more sense than that. I mean, that's
just what happened, right, So they trying to work it out,
finally proroging them and it's like, man, fuck this, So
they start rolling out.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
They marched. They marched on their way to Moscow.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So they first hit this city called h rostaband rostav,
Rostovbandan something like that. Either way, it sounded like Rosta
to me, and I was like, this is great. Took
over a military base over there. And again you gotta
remember the niggas that got recruited to fight for the
Russian Army ain't soldiers.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They just dudes.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You pull them niggas out the bar. They got the
MODELO bellies, you feel me. They was like, well shit,
I mean whatever, nigga, like, do you they done moved
through that Russian Russian Army the ones that was really
with the ships tried to get them. They donet shot
down a helicopter. Y'all listening to me. This Wagner group
(27:45):
hired guns like you hired these goons. But then you
remember they goons, right, they shot They shot some jets
out the sky on the way to Moscow. Now the
next question is what was your plan when you if
you if you actually got to Moscow, what was gonna
be your plan? And really, like the military, the police,
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nobody was really stopping him. They was almost like, oh, okay, nigga,
Like I mean, I mean, we keep kind of on
so you could pull out, like I'm not gonna do it,
but if you could pull it off, It's been forty
years we've been dealing with this nigga.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So like I mean, And then the rest of the
world was like, yo, is this Do we finally see
a kink in Vladimir's armor? Is he finally showing weakness?
Is it finally Could it be a brand new day?
Because it looked like a rebellion. It looked like a
military rebellion. And check this out. Here's where it got crazy. Putinin' say, shit,
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where's nigga at? When he finally popped out, he wasn't
even at the Kremlin. So the niggas was like, oh shit,
you scared. Wait this nigga scared. And he even got
on the camera and was like, nah, fam, I condemn this,
Like I don't play this shit. You go nah, y'all
gonna have to chill. And then I'm I'm now, we
don't know what happens. It's like the screen goes black
(29:05):
and then it pops back up and progusion nigga, the
street nigga that owns an army, A nigga that got
almost all the way, God damned the Moscow who shot
down killed, killed a thousand, killed a thousand troops, shot
down two military grade planes which are not cheap. Russia
(29:28):
ain't got damn got money to spare on their tools,
shot them down. All of a sudden, It's like it's
all good. Changed my mind. I'll just go to Belarus.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Nigga.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What you had him on the nigga like you had
him in the corner. You are what are you doing
bro this?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I'll just go to Belarus.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I have no idea what happened there unless Russia decides
to tell us. But I've been saying this since hood.
Politics was just the section of the Red Couch podcast.
The question always and somebody in power like that is
are you a killer?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You have to ask yourself is Putin a killer? And
I think the resounding answer is see signor absolutely nigga?
Don't Ever, I can't believe it was even a question
Putin's a killer? Would he kill his own homeboy, a
nigga he known since since they was both foot soldiers?
(30:47):
Will you take somebody like Progulsion.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Who like I.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Look, I'm from the hood, homie. I don't already done time.
You're fucking up my money. Now you got me out
here losing wars. But I'm not mad at you, though,
I'm mad at the Ministry of the which of course
is CAP.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We all know that's CAP.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
But he said it's a march towards freedom. All of
a sudden, this man strikes a deal of who've been listen,
that's his ace. Boon con strikes a deal to go
to Belarus, essentially an exile, and then Putent tell the
rest of the army like or the rest of his
Wagner Group army, which again you have to understand, they
(31:24):
running wars all over the world right now, This ain't
the only place they at, and Nigga got sets everywhere,
committing horrendous crimes against humanity everywhere. He said, Hey, yo,
y'all could join up with us, or you could just
go back home, or you can go down to Belarus.
Choice is yours, bro, I'll honor it. Why don't you
gone like gone to Belarus? That's exile? Y'all understand that, right.
(31:48):
Pagosian's a jilgenaire that owns an army, and rather than
pulling the trigger, he chose exile. What does that tell
you about Vlad's power?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Is there really a question?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Because I'm gonna speculate the same way you're gonna speculate again.
Oligarchs are getting thrown out of windows, I thought, and
I'll be honest with you, I thought the demise and
me and me and Robert thought. I thought that the
final demise of Vladimir Putin will be if he continues
to fuck up the money. That's what I thought, and
(32:21):
I still low key kind of believe that. But I
thought the who controlled the money was the oligarchs. I
thought they would eventually be like, all right, fuck this now.
My gross and wild and unfounded speculation was it was
them oligarchs. That was talking to Progrosion like nigga, I
think there's a part of it, and they again probably
(32:44):
cut a check. I also think it's complicated. I think
this nigga Progosion don't like losing, and you got me
out here looking like a herd. I also know he
from the street. He no better than to talk shit
about Vladimir Putin. He been here the whole time. A
nigga know where the bodies are. Are you really gonna
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be able to take him out? I'm pretty sure he's
seen a bunch of people try to take Blad out.
He's been around forever. But also he like, yeah, from
the streets, because I run, I run an army. I'm
done with this shit. You're not gonna keep playing games
with me. He might have been just done. So let
me guess what happened off off camera. But before I do,
you gotta hear Belarus's side. Now, you let Mettvashenko tell it.
(33:27):
That's the leader of Belarus over there. You let Mashenko
tell it. He's seen all this going down. He tapped
in with Progulsion and was like, look, homie, listen dog.
I know you upset, but listen you don't want the smoke,
and according to him, Progusion was like, no, I'm with
all that. I won't No, I wont the smoke. Man, Nah,
I'm done with this shit. You're gonna stop making me
(33:49):
look like no, nigga, I want it, And Mettfashenko is like, listen, Doug,
you don't want it. Look, let me talk to let
me talk to let me talk to Blad, let me
talk to big Homy black man, let me see what's
uping Like, Man, I ain't talking, I'm done talking. Let
me talk to him, homie. And according to him, he
pulled up on Vlad like, listen, Dog, this a bad look,
(34:10):
big homie, Like I'm trying to tell you. Man, maybe
like like, let's just let's just calm this thing down.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Look, I'll take him.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You feel me like I'll I'll let him, let him
come here, I'll make sure everything all right. But like, Dog,
you don't. You don't need this, And according to him,
he talked both of them down, which is a great
story to tell because now you look like a boss.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You look like you tapped in. But the thing is
with this.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Whole story where all of it is like I know
none of y'all want to look like punks.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
But we know you. I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
That y'all can't convince Vladimir or nothing. Maybe you can,
but for years you've been kind of like just riding
old Lad's coattails for a wild big dog. But like,
I don't know, that's a great story. That's a great
story to be like, look, man, let me let me,
let me, let me, let me let me broke he
this piece. I don't know, though I wasn't there. I
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think it might be a combo of both. But here's
part of what I think. I think you could guess. Already,
Lad looked his homeboy in the face and he was like,
you're gonna stop this, And he was probably like, listen,
matthishenko Come get your boy, Hey, come get your man,
(35:34):
cause I'm done with this shit. You got two choices,
big homie. I think you should make the right one.
I think progulsion made the choice that any logical person
would make. I think it's best you gonna take your
ball and go back home, go somewhere, find and start
you a new life, home boy in Belarus and start
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playing you some fruits and veggies.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Go be a farmer out there. Nigga, don't come back
to the hood.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You lucky, my little homie being cool about it, because
I might listen, because if I even if somebody even
formed their lips to bring you up one more time,
if I even smell your cologne anywhere around here, I
think that's what he told him. But I also know
Belarus scared of Putin too, So Putin called him, send
(36:25):
him to Belarus, let him live there for a year.
And then all of a sudden, man, y'all hear about
the guy from the Wagner Group. The Wagner Group already
got food poisoned. I don't know what happened, man, I
heard he fell out of a window. Nigga, exile. Ain't
exile when you were gangster like Putin. And then Putin
got to get back on the camera and be like, listen,
(36:45):
everything's fine, everything's under control.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
This is actually good for us, Oh you need it.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Almost happened, the chaos among your army, that's good for us.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
The fact that even.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Your own team is like, we can't win this shit
like you, we're not even prepared. And he's like, well, listen,
the Ukrainian forces thought that bickering among us would destroy us,
but it only made us stronger out here singing Kelly Clarkson,
what don't kill us makes us stronger?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That's his love. That's what you get on camera.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Tell everybody like, Nah, it's all good, bro, Listen, this
makes us better and listen, I will navigate us through
all this and we're gonna win. We are Russian strong,
will be good. We're made of vodka and sub zero
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temperatures will be good. That's how you go. Try to
spin it, and that's how he is spinning it. But
I tell you what we actually thought. You know what
I'm saying. Look, Regusa was feeling froggy, and it all
of a sudden changed his mind, just like fifty cents say.
It's crazy how people start, you know, how their memories go. Man,
you just you kind of forget, like all of a sudden,
(38:03):
your memory and your sight like you wasn't man, I
don't remember, like I don't think.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I saw that all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Your eyes get bad, man, That's weird how your eyes
get bad. Sometimes tapped in with thanks his own boy,
I can't feel too from you, Yeah, lad, I feel
you to be your own people, don't it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Politics y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You know, I don't know why I ain't thought of
this before, but you know you could use promo code
hood for fifteen percent off on terraform colbrew dot com.
Like I forgot I own that company and this is
my pod.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Y'all, go ahead and bunch it.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Promo cod hood if you in the cold brew gets
you some cold brew, gonna get you some coffee.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, Like I can't believe I ain't think of it is still.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Right now, yo yo.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
This thing right here was recorded by Me Propaganda and
East Lows, boil Heights, Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
This thing was mixed, edited.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Mastered, and scored by the one and the only Matt Awsowski.
Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible.
Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman for Cool Zone Media. Man,
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I just want to remind you these people is not
smarter than you. If you understand city living, you understand politics,
we'll see you next week.
Okay, So look, I don't know if you know this,
but Russia has eleven time zones, Like y'all don't realize
how big Russia is. It's like you, I remember, it's
the eleven times America got three four if you count Hawaii,
which I guess is America.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So but mainland America it's only three times zoned. Russia
got eleven, y'all? Do you understand how big that must be?
I heard on this other show called The Take It's
an al Jazeer pod. The comparison was like, the distance
from tip of Russia all the way to the Pacific
(00:43):
Ocean is the same distance from Russia to Chicago. Russia
that big, which would mean that you can't control that
from one place. That mean your legend gotta be way
larger than your action will pull.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And how you do that?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I mean, I mean, remember this is a hood of politics.
You get respect through fear. I mean, you could try
to earn everybody love, but sometime power to I mean,
everybody up under you just as hungry as you are.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But if they scared, that's a different story.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So you gotta have shooters that got shooters they got
to know that you like, look, I wish I wish
one of you jokers would. I don't care how long
I known you. I don't care who you are. I
don't care what you I don't care what you've been on.
Don't don't bring don't you don't want to smoke with me?
Like I saw a clip with an old clip of Gucci.
He's like, look, man, now bring it to me. I'm
(01:42):
with all that. I'm with all that.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You got the right one?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Because if you don't get it, the old phrase used
to be like, hey, man, you got the wrong one.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I am not the one.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know what I'm saying, which is usually the warning
to be like hey, don't play with me, like I'm
gonna break you. He's like, no, nigga, Like he just
put a twist on it, like, no, I'm the right one.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I can't wait to wipe y'all out. I want it all.
I want to smoke. I mean, my scout, just one
city in a place that's it's so big, Like, how
do you control it? You gotta be scared of me.
You gotta know I'll poison you. I'll throw you out
a window. But sometimes yoe, it be your own people?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Ain't that right? Black politics?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Y'all? All right, y'all, welcome to another crimea River episode.
Nobody do At least I didn't know this was gonna
be like my Fast and Furious franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
This f ten out the mug. Too fast, too furious?
You feel me? It's about family where.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I still swear that the Fast and Furious they done
lost the thread a long time ago. Just physics don't matter,
nor just storyline. You know, we just gonna drop drop
a car. We're gonna attach a car to a helicopter.
Nigga like, like, what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
What are we doing? We're gonna save the world with
our fast cars? Anyway, Crime a River. I don't know
what number this is? This this did it be your
own people? Because man, have you ever heard that phrase?
Answer me?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I wait, oh wait, this is a one directional conversation.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's just essentially like you know, when your oh, when
your own folk, when they cracked the joke, when they
drag you, when they take you out.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You'd be like, dang it be your own people.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I don't know if you know this, but the police
don't be solving crimes. I'm pretty sure you know that
the police don't be preventing crime either. The police looking
for somebody who know what's happening and try to convince
them to snitch.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Don't let CSI fool you. The police don't solve nothing.
And if you go into one of them crime labs,
you know where they looking at DNA analysis, you expecting
to see somebody gorgeous inside of that thing, in a
full face of makeup like CSI Miami.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
He'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I hope you understand that that is not how that
lab look with the cool neon lights in the back.
You feel me like, come on, y'all's that ain't how
it go. And again I need you to understand, the
police don't solve nothing. It's always your own people that's
who take you out every time. But if you can
scare your own people enough, maybe they'll think twice about
(04:51):
what they doing.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I saw this clip with fifty.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now, some of y'all may think that's an old nigga
ay oh, but the legend of his ga thanks and
the continual prowess in it is, it's.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Just it's so great.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So he was in this interview, and the thought was okay.
The interviewer was like, yo, if you if you hit me,
like if you slap me in the face, nigga, it's up.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
This is what I'm gonna do. I'm like, I'm about
to be rich.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm gonna go tell my other homies to slap me
more and I'm gonna say you did it, and I'm
pay him a little bit slap me more and say
you did it. We're all gonna get rich. And fifty
was like, listen, that don't bother me at all, because
this is what I do. I'll go find your own
homies and pay them the total of what you would
have paid all of them collectively. I'll just pay them
(05:44):
individually that number. And then all of a sudden, nobody
remembers anything. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
He say, listen.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Then he got real serious and it's like in the
most New York passion. He goes, hey, man, how much
you think it costs today to get somebody murdered? And
he just kind of like cleans his teeth real quick,
and he was just like about five six thousand dollars
and like like you have to understand like foods will
put you under the ground for a PS four, not
(06:12):
even a five. You, I mean you in the right hood,
like you understand, like a four could still could do it,
and Nintendo Switch could do it. A couple of bands
all your A couple bands your man's will forget everything.
That's your boy, that's your hood, that's your homie you
grew up with.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What do you what do you? What do you?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
What?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Y'all?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
What y'all making them up? I mean, you know you
you pushing away for him? How much you how much?
What's your cut? You get that all right? Nigga?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I'a pay you double murder this nigga like it's just
there's no.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's just bread. I don't care who you signed up for.
It's just bread. So I know you hear goons in
them like real niggas. A lot of these young rappers
or even the OLG rappers. You gotta remember them old rappers,
them nineties rappers, nineties gangsters. They cut from a different cloth,
like they believed in something like they different Now. Of
course you got some exceptions when you got young dudes
(07:08):
out here. That's like, you know, I bleed for this rag,
I bled for this color like niggas have died for this,
you know what I'm saying. So there are still a
small remnant of dudes that are out here like that,
But that ain't the normal case. If the bread right,
that's you, they get into the bag. You can't just
believe that these niggas is like down for the car. Okay,
(07:29):
how long y'all been honies, You can't. You can't believe
just that that everybody just is bought into the cause
everybody with the shits they get into the bag. I mean,
that's that's just the rule. So you gotta keep them
niggas happy. You gotta keep them on payroll. And if
they step out of line, you can't just threaten to
take their money out. You got to threaten to take
their money. They life, they family life, their children. Like, nigga,
(07:51):
you gotta get out this hood because as the hommy
d smokes say, one call and the nigga's gonna hydro plane.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
You know what I'm saying. He's like, Nigga, if you.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Get out of line, I can make one call and
I don't care about your toddler, nigga, like I don't
care about none of your baby's mamas. They all finna
be childless like there are some niggas that just don't.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Care.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So you have to be able to convince these people
that you like Gucci, I'm with it all. You chose
the right one. Don't do not step out of line
because you can't always count on You got your people
that signed up for it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You can count on them to an extent.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But then you got to have some people that was like, no, nigga,
pay me right, and if the bread right, I do
whatever you need me to do. But you gotta know
that if somebody else got the bread, nigga.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
We'll do that too.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But if you the type of leader where your mans
could actually turn on you, oh you done showing weakness.
Them niggas is taking notes. I mean why wouldn't they.
Now we know you can get touched. I mean we
all know you could get but now we know a
catalog your reign is it's a matter of time. There's
a grand opening and the grand closing. Nobody up forever.
(09:09):
So if that's the case, then you better have a
succession plan set up. If you build a whole, you
build the whole thing around you, around your personality. You
ain't got no succession plan set up.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Bruh.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Then that means it's easy to top of this whole thing.
I just got to get you out the way, and
everybody got a price. Now here's where the dope crossover
(09:42):
comes in. Jake han Rahim he got a new show
out called Russian Oligard right, because you know he'd be
doing that them deep cuts of journalism, and he like, look,
man Dizzy's rushing olive guards that keep dying, they keep
falling out of first story windows. Now you heard what
I said, they falling out first story windows. How you
fall out of a first story window and die? Because
(10:05):
you could fill in the blank. Why you think they dying?
I think I know. I think you know too. So
these are those fair warnings to those who feel like
they may have something to say. The old lad like
the hommy legally height calling big bang pee.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Just in case you're thinking about letting something come out
of your mouth, you should ask what happened, you know
to old Sasha over here? You feel me Sasha have
been an oligard yas his whole his family been nobility
in Russia. Since you know Tzar Alexander that nigga dead now.
I don't know what happened. I heard he fell out
of a window right his nigga proving one one election
(10:47):
by eighty percent. You know what I'm saying, Oh word,
you won by eighty percent. Yeah yeah, maybe keep your
mouth shut about him. But if you keep them goons
around you, you know what I'm saying, at some point, one
of them niggas might be like, you know what, I'm
kind of tired of the ship.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I'm like, I'm a shot calling myself.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm somewhat of a
gangstter myself, Like I don't understand why I got to
keep playing it low with you. And oftentimes when they
get that close to you and their goons, they see
how messy you are.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You know, when you when.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You know where the body is buried, you know you
at some point like things might start changing. I mean
that's you know. Look, I don't I look. I see
what you presenting to the world, and I get it.
I'm with it, you feel me, But like I know
where you lay ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I know your weaknesses.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I nigga, I know this shit like, so don't like, look,
don't bring that energy to me homeboy, like I'm different,
to which if you the boss, you need to respond like, okay,
well let's just see how different you are. So let's
let's get to it. Let's talk about the Wagner Group.
Y'all ready boom? So look, so a few weeks back, uh,
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there was somewhat of a mutant, the Wagner Group, which
I'm about to explain who they were. They decided to
turn their forces away from the Ukraine and back towards Moscow.
So they they was, they was marching. It really had
very little, very little resistance on their way there. Now
your next question should be, if you wasn't watching TV,
(12:43):
who is the what is the Wagner Group? Well, the
Wagner Group is they hired guns. Remember I told you
you had you got your crew, you got your squad,
but then you got them dudes that are like, we're
here for the bag and we're crazy with them. The
niggas you just pay like where it's like I need
y'all to go out there and just brawlers. I'll pay
y'all though you feel me now. I don't know if
(13:04):
you notice, but private armies are a thing for nations.
We you know, we have one, right you know who
run it is Betsy Devas's brother.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, Betsy Devas.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The the Department of Education. Lady her brother own own
an army. Now you would ask yourself, but I thought
the Armed forces was something noble, and.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know you sign up.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
We have four you know, and our brave troops out there,
you know, protecting our freedoms. Now, I don't know if
you notice, you might. I figure you pretty politically savvy
if you listen to my show. But if you don't know,
let me put you home. When America says we've only
had ten casualties and this was a success, they're reporting
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on people actually in the armed forces. However, it's not
our actual armed forces are the only people out there.
This man, Erik Prince, who is Betsy Devas's brother, has
an army out there that are the US government contracts with.
So when you say only ten, we only had ten
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American casualties, you're only reporting on the armed forces. You're
not reporting on how many other Americans died that was
part of Erik Prince's army. So they get to say
they get to tell us like because that's all they
have to do. Because remember you're a private company. Well,
I mean, if y'all die out there, that's I mean,
that's different. Like that's y you supposed to report on that.
We ain't got a report on that. So when they
get on the news and be like, yo, this was success,
we had very little American casualties. No, you had very
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little armed forces casualties. The other four hundred thousand people
that died, now, of course that's an exaggeration, but we'll
make it more feasible. The other three hundred and fifty
two one thousand men and women that died in the
line of duty weren't in the line of duty. They
just worked for this mercenary. So when you commit crimes
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against humanity, when you do these horrible Geneva code breaking
military atrocities, when you breaking into houses and burning food's
houses and taking women and children and eating their food,
you know, marching your mud all off, they rug, well,
that's not that's not the US military. Y'ah, y'all following me,
(15:25):
do you know how good it is for army like
against take it to the streets and that I don't
know them niggas, that's not mine. They ain't one of ours.
I mean them niggas. But they them niggas is brothers,
like they just they the homies. I mean, but I
don't control them. They're not on a set I mean right,
I mean, come on, is it?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's brilliant. You just hire an army.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So the Wagner Group is an army that Russia has
used a ton of times. It's a private mercenary army,
I mean, and they are guilty of trillions of crimes
against humanity in Africa, in Iran, in the Middle East.
I mean, just disgusting, movie level, like nineties.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Movie level villains. Just a mission impossible.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Just think of the corniest, most cliche evil villain petrocities.
That's what that's that's what you do, right, you just
used to do that anyway. So the leader of this
group is this guy named Progosion. Now progross it from
the hood. Let me let me like, y'all up about Progosion. Okay, Pregosion.
(16:43):
I'm not gonna say his name right because I'll speak Russian.
I'll be trying. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful.
Let me line y'all up about this Nick. So y'all
(17:03):
got to know his backstory to understand how he even
connected with old lad So check this out, goes you
from the hood, I mean, stick up kid, just.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
A street dude, robberies.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Went to jail for murder, right, he did time for murder,
and nigga, he murdered this old lady with a knife.
Do you know how crazy you got to be to
murder somebody with a knife that's up close?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So he he from the block, right, So of course
he owns an army. Now he became wealthy. How he
become wealthy, Well, he used to have his hot dogs
stand y'all listening to me. His nigga was outside, you know,
selling a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You feel me?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
He was out there like don't go, don't go dog, right,
he was outside selling hot dogs. Which I said it
like that because that's some West Coast shit. But he
was just outside on the corner selling hot dogs. And
one story about how he got wealthy is uh, he
saved money from that opened up a restaurant and then
he started Then he went from the restaurant to the catering.
But when he had the dope little hot dog restaurant,
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a young shooter that was a part of the KGB
who was like really a talented upshot used to come
over there all the time named Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And Vladimir really liked homeboy.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And as Vladimir went up, he was like, dude, I'm
gonna call the homeboy I remember from the streets. Man,
they come come cater these parties. So he used to
cater all the birthdays. He got a little nickname that
he was Vladimir's cook. That was his little nickname. He
was talking about, man, you're talking about the chef to
cook nigga, the cook got it. Cook got an army
with a cook from the hood. So some believe one
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story is that's how he became out. He came up, like,
saved his money from the hot dog stand, built a
built a catering business, and then he bought an army.
Now and look, real ones stick together, no new friends.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They've been friends that long. So when when vlad got up.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
He got up?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Or the other story is which I both tend to
believe because I know hood niggas is here, y'all rich
from gambling. This nigga used to run casinos. And guess
who was in charge of the Ministry of gambling. Who
used to be over the casinos in Russia. Oh my homeboy, Vladimir.
(19:31):
So here's what I think. It's both to see all
of the above, because if you listen, you gotta have
you gotta have both happening.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You never know which one of these licks is gonna land.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I think it's both, And for y'all to think it's
for studies some of this, like normal mainstream media to
think that it's one or the other means like, oh, nigga,
y'all not from the streets.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, listen, it's both.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Okay, man, every hood entrepreneur I know had another business,
you know what I'm saying. There was like, oh, nigga,
I'm a plumber. Oh yeah, no, I'll be doing construction.
I got this thing you know where I'll be a
you know I sent I sent the hommies out to
go like okay, ok cool, then we'll go with that.
Oh nigga, you flip you flip sneakers on eBay? Oh word, okay, yeah, nah,
(20:15):
I got this little vending machine thing popping off. You
know what I'm saying, Like we just you know, I
just I got these ven machines. You know what I'm saying,
that's why we're doing trying to come up. Okay, word,
I got you anyway, Progrossen runs runs this uh this
Wagner group, the Wagner Group said a few weeks ago,
for y'all, I'm about tired of this ship.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
We out here dying, Nigga.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Y'all got us out here with you got like y'all, look,
look rewind the clock a little bit. Remember lad thought
this was gonna be a weekend trip taking out. Ukraine
sent the B team, sent the scent, the JV squad
and was like, oh we good, We'll just we'll be
we'll be back for you know, we could golf on Tuesday.
(20:58):
You know what I'm saying, It'll be over. They was
not ready. They was not ready. Fades was requested and
fades was given. And you ain't realize that. You know,
Ukraine had Mohart in a little bit. They was with
the shits. They was out here scrapping, right, and they
was like, oh damn, we better spend to send the
big homies. They sent the big you know, Russia sent
the big homies out and they was getting the ass beat.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
How was they getting they ass beat? Nigga?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Because they're not trained, and they out here fighting with
weapons from nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And according to Ladd, he's like, well, I'm fighting the
entire West, damn. Man, Like it's just me against the world.
It's Russia versus everybody. They got the new T shirts
out right now. He like, Damn, how am I gonna wins?
But you gotta remember again, Russia the size of eleven
time zones. So you could just meet grind every man
you got, just send him out there. So it guess
what he was doing. He instituted the draft. He throwing
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out here your grandpa with the gout. Nigga, you ever
shot a gun, You ever seen a gun, You ever
drew a pitch of it, you ever smelled it. You
know somebody that's ever thought about a gun? Here?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Higgo won go out there and fight this war? Where
we going? I don't know. The drug sergeant will tell
you he was sending us.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Out here with your uncle Larry with the bad hip,
and you mad at the results. That's what prongrossing in
them is saying it's like, nigga, I got these. I mean,
it's only so much of us bro and who he
mad at because he's not dumb. He looking at Lad
because you remember Vlad throw people out of first story windows.
(22:24):
He like, I'm mad at the Ministry of the Defense,
themod y'all not sending us no weapons, no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
No, you cool? Lad, you cool. It's your boy.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
It be your own people, Glad, that's what he's saying.
Your boy out here tripping man. He like, look, I'm sorry, Bro,
don't be mad at me.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Homeboy.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I'm supposed to be out here doing this thing, fighting
this thing. But your boy, now, your boy, your boy
fucking up. He not helping me get the things I
need to get. That was his first argument. Then the
argument grew once it caught a little wave right and
the wave he started, then it became just a whole
populoust vote.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's the elites now you've Lad, you cool? He not dumb.
It's the elites. Y'all just out here.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You know what I'm saying, You expecting all the results.
None of y'all want to come fight. So it's this
whole like populist argument. Knowing full well he wanted the populace,
he doing the Trump thing where it's like God's the
rich elites I'm like, nigger, you are a rich elite,
but either way, and the people of Russia is like, man, listen,
it's not that we're on your side, but I mean absolutely,
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you know. I mean, but yeah, you're right. I mean
it's fuck them. If you're gonna screw with them, I
guess I guess that's dope. So check this out. He
was like, all right, you know what, man, fuck this.
We headed to Moscow. So the final straw was again,
you got us out here looking like herbs, and I'm
(23:46):
not gonna keep doing this.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I don't take ls.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But then he say his troops got attacked when the
Ministry of Defense ordered an airstrike, and according to Progrosion,
the Ministry of Defense don't like how I'm talking. I'm
making them look bad in front of the boss. I'm
not making you look bad, nigga, you are bad. The
Minister of Defense is like, if you don't shut your
ass up, man, you don't even go here. You just
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we pay you to be here, and stop talking about
our guys. You know you need to chill.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think you think you cool just because you and
Vlad go back. But nigga, don't think you can't get touched.
That's the Minister of Defence. It's like you shut your
whole ass up, nigga, you all have several seats. You
know what, man, look were playing.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We don't know what it is. We're not with the shits.
Watch this boom airstripe.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
That's maybe, but we know for a fact that that's
the Minister of Defence's attitude where it's like they are
looking at lad being like we lose it because of this, nigga.
He like we lose it for of this nigga. Now,
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if you' Vladimir Putin, there's a couple of ways you
gotta play this if you're gonna stay on top, because
right now it seem like, oh it's it's looks like
it's disloyalty and money camp home. What's wrong with your
wrong with your soldiers home? You can't get your soldiers
to get along? So if you if you Ukraine, you
got a big old bag of popcorn watching this shaking
them like sunflower seeds out here, My nigga, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Check you check, you check, you check your check.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
It's like shaking your sunflower seeds like dice popping them
in your mouth. You feel me, like, let's see what's good, hommy,
y'all better figure this shit out. Man out here making
memes about how y'all can't get along. So if you,
if you've lad, you know everybody watching how you play this.
You can't keep your holes in check. I mean, because
that's what they look like to us. You can't keep
your holes in check. Or you play the game like
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worry about at home? You saw all under control? Y
I got my house in check. You know, sometimes sometimes
the bitches don't get along. You feel me, you know,
we just got to see what's good? You feel me,
y'all work this out. I want to see you guys
work this out now, y'all, y'all work this out now,
like okay, no reason to be rude.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Now let me now, let me hear what you got
to say.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You play the big daddy role where it's like, don't
worry about it, y'all like I got it. Let me
let me hear what they talking about. Okay, you mad?
You ain't get your toy?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Does that? Is that not?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
You don't feel you don't feel loved? Okay, now look
at your friend, look at the Ministry of defense. Tell
them how you feel, now, Ministry Defense, how does that
make you got to play it like you running things
and at the same time being like, well, y'all, you know,
if you don't figure this shit out, you dying right,
because I noticed neither one of you are blaming me
(26:49):
because you got more sense than that. I mean, that's
just what happened, right, So they trying to work it out,
finally proroging them and it's like, man, fuck this, So
they start rolling out.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
They marched. They marched on their way to Moscow.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So they first hit this city called h rostaband rostav,
Rostovbandan something like that. Either way, it sounded like Rosta
to me, and I was like, this is great. Took
over a military base over there. And again you gotta
remember the niggas that got recruited to fight for the
Russian Army ain't soldiers.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They just dudes.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You pull them niggas out the bar. They got the
MODELO bellies, you feel me. They was like, well shit,
I mean whatever, nigga, like, do you they done moved
through that Russian Russian Army the ones that was really
with the ships tried to get them. They donet shot
down a helicopter. Y'all listening to me. This Wagner group
(27:45):
hired guns like you hired these goons. But then you
remember they goons, right, they shot They shot some jets
out the sky on the way to Moscow. Now the
next question is what was your plan when you if
you if you actually got to Moscow, what was gonna
be your plan? And really, like the military, the police,
(28:06):
nobody was really stopping him. They was almost like, oh, okay, nigga,
Like I mean, I mean, we keep kind of on
so you could pull out, like I'm not gonna do it,
but if you could pull it off, It's been forty
years we've been dealing with this nigga.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So like I mean, And then the rest of the
world was like, yo, is this Do we finally see
a kink in Vladimir's armor? Is he finally showing weakness?
Is it finally Could it be a brand new day?
Because it looked like a rebellion. It looked like a
military rebellion. And check this out. Here's where it got crazy. Putinin' say, shit,
(28:42):
where's nigga at? When he finally popped out, he wasn't
even at the Kremlin. So the niggas was like, oh shit,
you scared. Wait this nigga scared. And he even got
on the camera and was like, nah, fam, I condemn this,
Like I don't play this shit. You go nah, y'all
gonna have to chill. And then I'm I'm now, we
don't know what happens. It's like the screen goes black
(29:05):
and then it pops back up and progusion nigga, the
street nigga that owns an army, A nigga that got
almost all the way, God damned the Moscow who shot
down killed, killed a thousand, killed a thousand troops, shot
down two military grade planes which are not cheap. Russia
(29:28):
ain't got damn got money to spare on their tools,
shot them down. All of a sudden, It's like it's
all good. Changed my mind. I'll just go to Belarus.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Nigga.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What you had him on the nigga like you had
him in the corner. You are what are you doing
bro this?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I'll just go to Belarus.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I have no idea what happened there unless Russia decides
to tell us. But I've been saying this since hood.
Politics was just the section of the Red Couch podcast.
The question always and somebody in power like that is
are you a killer?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You have to ask yourself is Putin a killer? And
I think the resounding answer is see signor absolutely nigga?
Don't Ever, I can't believe it was even a question
Putin's a killer? Would he kill his own homeboy, a
nigga he known since since they was both foot soldiers?
(30:47):
Will you take somebody like Progulsion.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Who like I.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Look, I'm from the hood, homie. I don't already done time.
You're fucking up my money. Now you got me out
here losing wars. But I'm not mad at you, though,
I'm mad at the Ministry of the which of course
is CAP.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We all know that's CAP.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
But he said it's a march towards freedom. All of
a sudden, this man strikes a deal of who've been listen,
that's his ace. Boon con strikes a deal to go
to Belarus, essentially an exile, and then Putent tell the
rest of the army like or the rest of his
Wagner Group army, which again you have to understand, they
(31:24):
running wars all over the world right now, This ain't
the only place they at, and Nigga got sets everywhere,
committing horrendous crimes against humanity everywhere. He said, Hey, yo,
y'all could join up with us, or you could just
go back home, or you can go down to Belarus.
Choice is yours, bro, I'll honor it. Why don't you
gone like gone to Belarus? That's exile? Y'all understand that, right.
(31:48):
Pagosian's a jilgenaire that owns an army, and rather than
pulling the trigger, he chose exile. What does that tell
you about Vlad's power?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Is there really a question?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Because I'm gonna speculate the same way you're gonna speculate again.
Oligarchs are getting thrown out of windows, I thought, and
I'll be honest with you, I thought the demise and
me and me and Robert thought. I thought that the
final demise of Vladimir Putin will be if he continues
to fuck up the money. That's what I thought, and
(32:21):
I still low key kind of believe that. But I
thought the who controlled the money was the oligarchs. I
thought they would eventually be like, all right, fuck this now.
My gross and wild and unfounded speculation was it was
them oligarchs. That was talking to Progrosion like nigga, I
think there's a part of it, and they again probably
(32:44):
cut a check. I also think it's complicated. I think
this nigga Progosion don't like losing, and you got me
out here looking like a herd. I also know he
from the street. He no better than to talk shit
about Vladimir Putin. He been here the whole time. A
nigga know where the bodies are. Are you really gonna
(33:04):
be able to take him out? I'm pretty sure he's
seen a bunch of people try to take Blad out.
He's been around forever. But also he like, yeah, from
the streets, because I run, I run an army. I'm
done with this shit. You're not gonna keep playing games
with me. He might have been just done. So let
me guess what happened off off camera. But before I do,
you gotta hear Belarus's side. Now, you let Mettvashenko tell it.
(33:27):
That's the leader of Belarus over there. You let Mashenko
tell it. He's seen all this going down. He tapped
in with Progulsion and was like, look, homie, listen dog.
I know you upset, but listen you don't want the smoke,
and according to him, Progusion was like, no, I'm with
all that. I won't No, I wont the smoke. Man, Nah,
I'm done with this shit. You're gonna stop making me
(33:49):
look like no, nigga, I want it, And Mettfashenko is like, listen, Doug,
you don't want it. Look, let me talk to let
me talk to let me talk to Blad, let me
talk to big Homy black man, let me see what's
uping Like, Man, I ain't talking, I'm done talking. Let
me talk to him, homie. And according to him, he
pulled up on Vlad like, listen, Dog, this a bad look,
(34:10):
big homie, Like I'm trying to tell you. Man, maybe
like like, let's just let's just calm this thing down.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Look, I'll take him.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You feel me like I'll I'll let him, let him
come here, I'll make sure everything all right. But like, Dog,
you don't. You don't need this, And according to him,
he talked both of them down, which is a great
story to tell because now you look like a boss.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You look like you tapped in. But the thing is
with this.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Whole story where all of it is like I know
none of y'all want to look like punks.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
But we know you. I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
That y'all can't convince Vladimir or nothing. Maybe you can,
but for years you've been kind of like just riding
old Lad's coattails for a wild big dog. But like,
I don't know, that's a great story. That's a great
story to be like, look, man, let me let me,
let me, let me, let me let me broke he
this piece. I don't know, though I wasn't there. I
(35:12):
think it might be a combo of both. But here's
part of what I think. I think you could guess. Already,
Lad looked his homeboy in the face and he was like,
you're gonna stop this, And he was probably like, listen,
matthishenko Come get your boy, Hey, come get your man,
(35:34):
cause I'm done with this shit. You got two choices,
big homie. I think you should make the right one.
I think progulsion made the choice that any logical person
would make. I think it's best you gonna take your
ball and go back home, go somewhere, find and start
you a new life, home boy in Belarus and start
(35:56):
playing you some fruits and veggies.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Go be a farmer out there. Nigga, don't come back
to the hood.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You lucky, my little homie being cool about it, because
I might listen, because if I even if somebody even
formed their lips to bring you up one more time,
if I even smell your cologne anywhere around here, I
think that's what he told him. But I also know
Belarus scared of Putin too, So Putin called him, send
(36:25):
him to Belarus, let him live there for a year.
And then all of a sudden, man, y'all hear about
the guy from the Wagner Group. The Wagner Group already
got food poisoned. I don't know what happened, man, I
heard he fell out of a window. Nigga, exile. Ain't
exile when you were gangster like Putin. And then Putin
got to get back on the camera and be like, listen,
(36:45):
everything's fine, everything's under control.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
This is actually good for us, Oh you need it.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Almost happened, the chaos among your army, that's good for us.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
The fact that even.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Your own team is like, we can't win this shit
like you, we're not even prepared. And he's like, well, listen,
the Ukrainian forces thought that bickering among us would destroy us,
but it only made us stronger out here singing Kelly Clarkson,
what don't kill us makes us stronger?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That's his love. That's what you get on camera.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Tell everybody like, Nah, it's all good, bro, Listen, this
makes us better and listen, I will navigate us through
all this and we're gonna win. We are Russian strong,
will be good. We're made of vodka and sub zero
(37:42):
temperatures will be good. That's how you go. Try to
spin it, and that's how he is spinning it. But
I tell you what we actually thought. You know what
I'm saying. Look, Regusa was feeling froggy, and it all
of a sudden changed his mind, just like fifty cents say.
It's crazy how people start, you know, how their memories go. Man,
you just you kind of forget, like all of a sudden,
(38:03):
your memory and your sight like you wasn't man, I
don't remember, like I don't think.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I saw that all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Your eyes get bad, man, That's weird how your eyes
get bad. Sometimes tapped in with thanks his own boy,
I can't feel too from you, Yeah, lad, I feel
you to be your own people, don't it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Politics y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You know, I don't know why I ain't thought of
this before, but you know you could use promo code
hood for fifteen percent off on terraform colbrew dot com.
Like I forgot I own that company and this is
my pod.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Y'all, go ahead and bunch it.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Promo cod hood if you in the cold brew gets
you some cold brew, gonna get you some coffee.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, Like I can't believe I ain't think of it is still.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Right now, yo yo.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
This thing right here was recorded by Me Propaganda and
East Lows, boil Heights, Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
This thing was mixed, edited.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Mastered, and scored by the one and the only Matt Awsowski.
Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible.
Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman for Cool Zone Media. Man,
and thank you for everybody who continue to tap in
with us. Make sure you leaving reviews and five star
ratings and sharing it with the homies so we could
(40:06):
get this thing pushed up in the algorithm. And listen,
I just want to remind you these people is not
smarter than you. If you understand city living, you understand politics,
we'll see you next week.
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