December 10, 2025 • 29 mins
Today we continue our talk with Bridget Todd about her beloved hellscape Washington DC, and Prop shares his many family memories about his time in DC.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
As media, What.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Up with It? Part two?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Let's just jump back into the convo with me and
my homegirl Bridget talking about Crabs, Eighteenth Street, U Street,
my aunt curling Erin.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You gotta really love your.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Mother and your father DC, question Mark Asylum, Wilee Otysseee,
I really love DC. Citizen Coke, the dude that produced
this one thing has got me dripping god this one
and crazy in love DC and Chuck Brown Junkyard Band,
(00:43):
Backyard Boys DC.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Sheesh. Yeah, Okay, so that's all the joy. You told
me a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
About the frustration, as far as like really not being
seen as like somebody that the rest of the country
needs to take serious.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I add one more frustration or as it's kind of
into the joy all of the things that you've just
described about the uniqueness of DC and how you need
to experience it. My concern is twofold one that we
have a whole lot of folks new to the city
who are not experiencing this, and that two that just
(01:37):
the demographics of our city are really changing due to
things like gentrification, lack of affordable housing, and these things
that make DC a city that is worth coming to,
that make DC special I think are threatened. Right, Yeah,
so the city. And again not to say that cities
like New Orleans are doing everything right, but they have
identified that they have a unique culture that is being
(01:58):
driven by black and brown folks to be protected because
people want to come to the city to enjoy and
take part in that culture. And in DC, I worry
that a lot of the talk of preserving that culture
is not meaningful.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
They will knock down places where black and brown folks live,
they will put up condos that nobody can afford, and
they'll call it the Ellington as a nod to what
was once there. But it's not like the people who
are part of that culture could ever take part in it.
And so, yeah, all of these things that are that
are wonderful and beautiful about DC, it is so important
(02:33):
that they like those aren't happenstance. They come by making
sure that folks that contribute to that culture are able
to really show up here and put roots here and
not leave, not move to Maryland or Virginia, stay here
in the district path kids that are able to stay here.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
And I'm concerned that I.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Don't see our leaders really making an effort to see
and appreciate that because that's why people want to be
in the city in the first place.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, no, that's that's such a good that's such a
good thing. Like one of my cousins like purposefully was like, no,
I'm buying a house in the district, like for that
reason that He's just like, nah, we need to not leave.
And what's crazy is like he's his crib is like
a block or two away from where you know, our
(03:17):
granny's crib was that when she got too old. You know,
we ended up kind of sucks, like we ended up
having a sell, you know. At the same time, it
was like, I mean, what did you know?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
What did we know? Who knew that?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Like it was gonna balloon a two point five million
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Know that it was a hood, you know what I'm saying.
But I do more in that. I do more.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And like you said, like the the sort of cream
of mushroom souping of all of our new areas sort
of becoming just that, like just this beige kind of
khaki version of the rich seasoning that that the city
(04:01):
had and the reason why to go, you know what
I mean, Like you said, like a reason why to
go and a reason why to stay. Oh man, if
you could change, Like okay, So there's some stuff that's
like okay, you know we were sort of equal parts,
like our family is I think a symbol of that,
Like we were sort of equal parts, like you know,
(04:22):
church going, you know black folks that my my family
was part of, like the the you know House of Prayer,
you know church. Yeah, you know, one of my aunts
is like like high up in that denomination, you know
what I'm saying. So, uh, you know, there's that, and
(04:43):
then the other part was like, oh yeah, we were
the DC connect for the Baltimore the Baltimore drug ring
that the wire is based on.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, that's that was one of my other one of
my other cousins, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So like there was definitely the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's definitely the spectrum, you know what I'm saying, Like
there's a lot of crime.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know what I'm saying, Like let me not hey,
no point me lying to you know what I'm saying,
Like really went down.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I think one of the first signs I ever got
like punched in the face you know, and me being
from like I remember once we was at summer summer camp,
same cousin cause Benny was like, hey, you see that
boy right there he was because we got you know,
like I said, we was just defending for ourselves. We
got signed up for a summer camp. He was like
(05:36):
that dude right there, he's gonna pick on you. He
probably gonna take take your food and your money. You
just have to bust them. I was like what he
was like, you gotta bust him. I was like, what
do you mean by that? He was like, punch. You
have to punch him. So I'm again from LA. I
was like, I gotta fire on it because that's what
we was like, oh, so I need to fire on it.
And he was like, yeah, you have the first time
he says something to you, you have to fire on it.
(05:58):
And I was like, why would I do that? You know,
Like I couldn't understand. I was like, so my answer
is like So I was like where is he from?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He from? Like is he from another neighborhood?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Like because for us everything was was gang you know
what I mean? So I was just like, I mean,
is he like is he from a rival hood? Like
why Like what is the thing, Like I don't understand,
Like why do I got a problem with that dude?
Like who is he with? Like does he is his
cruel year? You know, you just know the origin store.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I need to know.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You just don't be punched, Like again, I'm from La,
Like you just don't. You just don't take off on
somebody without knowing what neighborhood in my end is there.
You know what I'm saying is that his apartment complex?
Can he leave in five minutes come back with a
stick with it?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like I don't. Don't just do that? You know.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
He was like you have to do it. They just
all the boys were like you have to do it.
And I was like, I was like, I'm only here
for the summer. They was like, you have to do it.
So I was like, okay, I was ready and like
(07:08):
and for some reason, I guess because I came as
their cousins, he didn't even he never even said anything
to me, So I just so, I guess because they
had already established that like not us, you know, right,
So but I was ready. I was like, Okay, here
(07:29):
we go. But either way, during that summer, we definitely
fought and I definitely was like this again, we fought
where I'm from, we fought for a reason. It was like,
but I mean the reason was stupid. You know, youve
on that street. I live on that street. But I
don't know this dude. But there was moments where we
(07:50):
were just in that summer. He was like, you're gonna
fight today. We gotta fight today. I was like, okay,
so we just had to fight that day. I still
don't know. I still don't know why we was fighting,
but we had to fight that day. But that was
phil for me. It was like, I mean that was DC.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You know, Oh that's I I love the comparison of
that experience compared to California, where you're like, well, there's
a reason for this. It might not be the smartest reason, no,
but there's yeah, but like there's it has been explained
to me why this person, you know, what's the deal
is here?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It's not just randomly today's.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
The day, Today's day.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Bro, Yeah, I mean I think that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean, and listen, it's anybody who's been paying attention
to the conversation since the summertime. Yeah, crime in DC,
like like we even have, like I have been reporting
on it talking about it. I don't want to downplay it.
You know, like a lot of cities. After twenty twenty,
crime in d C rose sharply, But before that crime
(08:55):
had really been trending downwards since like what you think
of as the high crime DC time the eighties and nineties. Yeah,
and so DC's on a loan in that. And when
you look at other cities, however, DC did have a
pretty like substantial jump. And when Trump made all of
his like big like, oh, We're coming into d C
(09:15):
for the crime, crime is actually trending down at that point.
But I do think that just like most cities. I mean,
I don't like that crime is just a reality of
living in the city, but it is. I mean, it
just is the reality living in a place like DC.
And I don't think that anybody should. I don't say
(09:37):
this to poop pooh it and be like, well, if
you live here, you better be ready for crime. I
would say, it is a city. And so if you
come to a city that you're not familiar with, you're
not from here, you don't.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Know the culture, you don't know the norms.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, I would tell anybody who comes to any city
to you know, like keep your head on a swivel.
(10:28):
I hear about. I mean, I don't. I gets so
complicated to talk about. Yeah, I think that if I'm
being real, the expectation that you should be able to
walk around a city like DC and not have that
you that you can abandon common sense, that's just not
going to happen, right, And so I don't want to
(10:48):
blame people who are the victims of crime, but I
do think what we It's a complicated conversation to have.
But I'll hear people who go to cities and expect
it to be something they saw on TikTok of like, oh,
why can't I you know, just like and it's like, well,
you can't because it's a city, and so you need
to understand that when you come.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah you yeah, Like why it's okay, it's two in
the morning, you're drunk and you parked on a side street. Yes,
I just don't understand what expectations you had.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Again, I mean again, I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I know it probably sounds like I'm blaming the victim,
but I remember reading about somebody whose car was stolen
and I was like, oh, this is a weird case.
And I read and they said, oh, well, I had
to run into the to to grab my dry cleaning,
so left my car running with the keys in it
for a few minutes, door unlocked, and I thought, well,
(11:41):
what are we doing? You know, like, I almost feel
like it's not again. I don't want to blame a victim,
but this is not behavior that you should be I
wouldn't I wouldn't do that in the suburbs. I wouldn't
do that anywhere, you know, like, but these I guess to,
I guess to. I said that to say. I get
very concerned about the way that we talk about crime
in cities, particularly DC, and I do actually feel that
(12:03):
that is why the way that we talk about crime
enabled Trump to do what he did in DC. Right
that even though crime was trending downward, we allowed a
handful of high profile, yet rare incidents that had very
you know, visceral images. I'm thinking of like the Doge
(12:24):
staffer who got into an incident. Yeah, big balls. So
I understand. I think there's just something that happens when
you have an image of somebody bloodied and beaten that
is so visceral that that the truth doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It doesn't matter that crime is down.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It doesn't matter that violent crimesm It doesn't matter that
our city council and our mayor at that point had
actually taken quite I would argue drastic steps, perhaps too
drastic to deal with crime, youth curfused. All of that
was our mayor, Muriel Bowser. People want to pretend that
that was all Trump. Not so our mayor was already
taking some very hard line anti crimes crime stances that
(12:59):
a lot of I gets in the.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
City thought was overboard. Right.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Again, it's complex because there are plenty of old school DC,
longtime residents, Black residents who would say, well, we need
to do something. So it's not It's not as if
every black resident in DC is against hardline crime, you know, crackdowns.
That's a whole other conversation that really runs deep in
(13:25):
our communities, as I'm sure you know. But no, yeah, yeah,
the conversation around crime is just so complex in our cities,
and DC is no different. I guess I'll put it
that way.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's also like, uh an example of like when you
say this city or this location, the crime rate is
this one number, either up or down. There's there's no
discussion around well, areas like you know, it's certain nuances.
It's like nobody's getting their carjacked in front of the Smithsonian.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
No, and that was the crazy thing.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, I'm like when they cracked down, when they when
they had federal agents for the longest time, the agents
were in like near the White House, the Smithsonian, places
where like people are not experiencing.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Everybody's yeah, like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
You know, in in areas where there's yeah, obviously, like
there are crimes of survival there, you know what I'm saying,
And you're not asking.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Nobody's asking like how we got here?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You feel me like, and maybe that crime is Yeah,
I jumped the I hopped the turnstile to get on
the train. Okay, So did I steal from the city?
I mean, I guess you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay,
you're gonna call that a crime? I mean, I mean,
I guess you know, did this little child, did this
little child come in here and grab an extra back,
(14:43):
you know, an extra cart in the milk?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So does that mean that shoplifting is a problem? What
do you want me to say?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, But then also,
like you said, the ridiculousness of being like you just
gonna lead a car running outside while you jump into
the Like I kind of feel like you wanted your
car stolen, Like who leaves their car run? Like what
is you talking about? You know what I'm saying? And
why would you do that? I just like, look around,
that's a pawn shop right there. Bro, there's like a
(15:12):
you know, we buy gold right here, homie, Like there's
a liquor store right there.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Maybe you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
What is you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Do you know anybody over here? Like this is not
your like, this is not your neighborhood. So like obviously
and a lot of times, which is another thing that
I wish we could would be a part of just
the crime and poverty discussion. It is like sometimes it's
like when you live in that community, you are also nervous.
You are also scared and protective of your own neighborhood.
(15:42):
So if I see a car I don't recognize, if
I see a person, I don't understand, Like my knee
jerk reaction is to be like, well, wait, what is
your business here?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Like who are you? Why are you over here? Who
do you know?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And some of that is not it's not aggression as
if like you know, as as if that we are
these are baryons that people talk.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
No, it's protection. It's like I don't know your business here.
I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I don't know if you're I don't know, like I
don't know you, We've never seen you. Like why would
I just I'm gonna say something because I don't know
who you are, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And like I don't know what you're doing in here.
We come from neighborhoods where like.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
The Amtrak train would just happen to stop on Alameda
in Compton aff full of guns, you know, and like,
oh there's an there's an abandon there's an abandoned buick.
If you pop the truck, there's drugs and guns in it,
Like whose car is this? You know what I'm saying,
Like like these things I wish I was making them up.
(16:42):
These things happen, you know. So some of it is
just as simple as like you walked into a place
and whether you know it or not, you are a threat.
So I'm being as protected as anyone would be.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I don't know who you are.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't know why you're here, you know, and as
much as as much.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And I'm like, and y'all do the same to us.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Y'all do the same to us when we walk into
walk into the department stores that you think we don't
belong in.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Hey, hey, doing you look at or something?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'm like, you're scared, aren't you?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I'm like me too, fam And I think it really
connects to what I was saying earlier of the way neighborhoods,
especially in places like DC, change so quickly. Like when
you have people who have just moved here or not
from here, who walk around and they are giving off
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an aura of like, I don't belong here, I'm scared,
and then you're you.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You might not even they might not even.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Realize that they're actually projecting something that they maybe don't
even want to be projecting.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, when you walk by people like like, I live
in a building that is that is next door to
someone who has lived there for like decades. Yeah, when
you see her out on her porch, you smile and
you say hello, you wave and say hello. If you
come to this neighborhood and don't do that, you are
signaling something, whether you understand it or or not right.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
And so I think that when.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We come when it comes to what it means to
feel safe and belong in communities, I want to live
in a real community, not a community of people who
are walking around projecting fear from people that they don't
know and haven't bothered to get to know.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
And I think that really is.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
The undercurrent of what's going on, at least in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Now do.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So last question, you're planning the perfect day. Friend comes
into town. So let's let's make it perfect for you.
So like, are you going to where did they fly into?
Did they fly into Ronald Reagan, b w I or Dulles?
Remember this is perfect, This is perfect?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Okay, Well I would have said, uh, d C A
Reagan the it's been a little dicey lake, but it is.
But it is the closest airport to the city you
can I have. This is my smuggest thing.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
You could.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
You could even take bike share to d C, a
which I've done before. So just so just for okay,
ease ease of getting into the city. Let's say they're
flying into DA.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So ease so so easy get into there. Flying in
d C a d c A. You got twenty four
hours with them. Where are we going to breakfast?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Lunch? What are we kicking it?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Let's just say and again it's perfect. So whatever monthly event,
this just happens to be the month or the day
that it's happening, whether it's a day, party, night, thing off.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
At the airport right now.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I got it. So we're getting into a time machine
and so silly perfec day.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's a perfect day.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But there was this spot and it's I I really
do feel like somebody could write an essay the best.
My favorite brunch brought in DC was Forever Marvin. It
was a Marvin Gaye I guess so a theme restaurant
sounds a little sounds a little funky, but it was
like a restaurant in tribute to Marvin gay Okay. So
there's an era in DC that it sounds so whack
(20:43):
to even say, but like the first iteration, the first
Obama administration, and this is not to be like ra
rao Obama, but there was an influx of just like
young black folks in the city. The energy in the city,
just like the energy really changed and it actually, I
actually do think it's true what they say that DC
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the vibe can change with political administrations because you got
an influx of people who move in and then an inflex.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
People who move out.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
And so I remember living in the district when the
Bush administration left and the Obama administration came in for
the first time, and like that talk about a fucking
culture shift. And so I would say, we're going, we're
getting in a time machine. We're doing a Marvin's Rooftop brunch.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Woa, okay, I used to have.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I mean, I don't even I don't even want to,
thank thank god, I don't remember a lot of those times. Yes,
it used to be so fun. They would have DJs
and lovely rooftop And this also was back in the
day when like everything is so expensive. Now, this was
back when you could really like do some damage at
a at a at a bottomless brunch and it wouldn't
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it wouldn't be that that expensive. So we're gonna we're
gonna go to brunch there. Uh that's yeah, that's what
we're gonna eat. We're gonna have that long, kind of
boozy rooftop brunch with dancing and DJs at the.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Marvin Rooftop Okay, Marvin Rooftop, all right, So that's brunch.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I love it. So that's brunch. That's food. We've kicked it.
That's music.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Are we I don't know when, Like, are we getting
a hookah because some reason hookah has kidnapped the black people, Like.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Oh my god, I have asthma, so I will watch
someone dude.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, so may Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What we're doing is it's a Sunday and the weather
is perfect. Okay, we are going to one of my
favorites bosts in the city, Malcolm X Park. Okay, they
do a just a They've been doing it since I've
since I've been here. I don't even know when it started,
but they do this amazing drum circle meet up thing
in the park. Like everybody in DC comes to Malcolm
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X Park on Sundays. Okay, it is this big thing
we're basically when I say drum circle, it sounds hippy dippy,
and I guess it is a little bit. But people
bring saxs, phones, they bring trumpets, they bring drum kits,
like people will will assemble drum kits. And even if
you don't participate in the actual physical drum circle, the
vibe in the The vibe in the park is just
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there's there's nothing there. You have to come next time
that you're indy and the weather is nice and it's funny.
It's it's one of those asyncredous things where I'm not
even sure who started it or who runs I don't
think anybody really runs it. It's just a drop in thing.
So that's just a lovely word. We're getting a blanket,
we're sitting in the park and watching this. Uh it's
(23:34):
also a lovely place for sunset.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
In the city. Okay, this is really is.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
This just a nice probably my favorite thing to do
in the city.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's dope. So sunset all right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Uh So the last thing we're doing is we go
to dinner and then you're taking me back to the airport.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Where would I take you to dinner? Oh well, we
would probably get seafood from my favorite seafood place. Uh
it So it used this so it is a d
C staple. It used to be called Fish in the Hood,
but they changed the name. The owner was like, you know,
I have to say the neighborhood is changing. So now
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it's called Fish in the Neighborhood. But it is still
a d C staple. They have mac and cheese there
that literally what street is that on?
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Oh? Let me look it.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Up because that sounds so familiar you.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Might have remembered it. It closed for a while.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Shut down for a while.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
See what is the address. Oh it's on Georgia, George.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah. Have you been there? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Oh my god? Their mac And let me tell you
the last time I was there, I was there with
somebody who is now my ex but like we're still friendly,
so this is not a like bashing this person story,
but we were like, oh, what should we get? Should get?
And we were like, oh, we had to share this
mac and cheese. When I tell you, I was like this,
it almost tore our relationship apart, trying to share their
mac and cheese because it's that good, but like we
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should have just gotten our own mac and cheese.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, no for real, Okay, Fish in the Hood that
yeah on Georgia aff yup that place.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, that might be my favorite place to get seafood,
soul food in the city, although I might have to
say it's not my it's not my favorite. It's not
my favorite place to get food, but it's so historic.
I think that I always have to give a nod
to Ben's Chili Bowl. Have you not been?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, it's the.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Food is nothing. I mean no, I will never I
will never disparage them. But like the food is nothing
to write home about. But when you going as an experience,
and it's such a historic place in the city during
the riots after the assassination of MLK, it was it
was the place where everybody met up. It stayed open,
which was an unusual thing there. So I have to
I have to give a shout out to that place,
even though I probably wouldn't take someone there unless they
(25:49):
hadn't been.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, it's more.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, we got some spots like that, Like yeah, the
the barbecue spot that Tiffany Hattish and her family is
is kind of a part of is. Yeah, that's on
Western and Florence. I think, yeah, Western and Florence.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Either way, Like it's good, but like this is South.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Central, Like you should you should come down here, you
know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, so yeah for Shure, Like, nah,
we we got spots like that. This sounds like such
a great This is dope, dude, This is see and
this is the DC. These are the hellscapes that we
actually love and live in.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yes, yeah, it may be a bombed out healthscape.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh man, all right, Bridget, so tell them all the
new stuff you're working on, and then we're gonna go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We might make this a two parter because this was
an hour, but that's Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
My gosh, this has been so fun. I you've I
can't wait to go out and fall back in love
with my city again after this. Listen to the other
cities that you've done and fall in love as well.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah.
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As media, What.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Up with It? Part two?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Let's just jump back into the convo with me and
my homegirl Bridget talking about Crabs, Eighteenth Street, U Street,
my aunt curling Erin.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You gotta really love your.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Mother and your father DC, question Mark Asylum, Wilee Otysseee,
I really love DC. Citizen Coke, the dude that produced
this one thing has got me dripping god this one
and crazy in love DC and Chuck Brown Junkyard Band,
(00:43):
Backyard Boys DC.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Sheesh. Yeah, Okay, so that's all the joy. You told
me a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
About the frustration, as far as like really not being
seen as like somebody that the rest of the country
needs to take serious.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I add one more frustration or as it's kind of
into the joy all of the things that you've just
described about the uniqueness of DC and how you need
to experience it. My concern is twofold one that we
have a whole lot of folks new to the city
who are not experiencing this, and that two that just
(01:37):
the demographics of our city are really changing due to
things like gentrification, lack of affordable housing, and these things
that make DC a city that is worth coming to,
that make DC special I think are threatened. Right, Yeah,
so the city. And again not to say that cities
like New Orleans are doing everything right, but they have
identified that they have a unique culture that is being
(01:58):
driven by black and brown folks to be protected because
people want to come to the city to enjoy and
take part in that culture. And in DC, I worry
that a lot of the talk of preserving that culture
is not meaningful.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
They will knock down places where black and brown folks live,
they will put up condos that nobody can afford, and
they'll call it the Ellington as a nod to what
was once there. But it's not like the people who
are part of that culture could ever take part in it.
And so, yeah, all of these things that are that
are wonderful and beautiful about DC, it is so important
(02:33):
that they like those aren't happenstance. They come by making
sure that folks that contribute to that culture are able
to really show up here and put roots here and
not leave, not move to Maryland or Virginia, stay here
in the district path kids that are able to stay here.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
And I'm concerned that I.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Don't see our leaders really making an effort to see
and appreciate that because that's why people want to be
in the city in the first place.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, no, that's that's such a good that's such a
good thing. Like one of my cousins like purposefully was like, no,
I'm buying a house in the district, like for that
reason that He's just like, nah, we need to not leave.
And what's crazy is like he's his crib is like
a block or two away from where you know, our
(03:17):
granny's crib was that when she got too old. You know,
we ended up kind of sucks, like we ended up
having a sell, you know. At the same time, it
was like, I mean, what did you know?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
What did we know? Who knew that?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Like it was gonna balloon a two point five million
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Know that it was a hood, you know what I'm saying.
But I do more in that. I do more.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And like you said, like the the sort of cream
of mushroom souping of all of our new areas sort
of becoming just that, like just this beige kind of
khaki version of the rich seasoning that that the city
(04:01):
had and the reason why to go, you know what
I mean, Like you said, like a reason why to
go and a reason why to stay. Oh man, if
you could change, Like okay, So there's some stuff that's
like okay, you know we were sort of equal parts,
like our family is I think a symbol of that,
Like we were sort of equal parts, like you know,
(04:22):
church going, you know black folks that my my family
was part of, like the the you know House of Prayer,
you know church. Yeah, you know, one of my aunts
is like like high up in that denomination, you know
what I'm saying. So, uh, you know, there's that, and
(04:43):
then the other part was like, oh yeah, we were
the DC connect for the Baltimore the Baltimore drug ring
that the wire is based on.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, that's that was one of my other one of
my other cousins, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So like there was definitely the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's definitely the spectrum, you know what I'm saying, Like
there's a lot of crime.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know what I'm saying, Like let me not hey,
no point me lying to you know what I'm saying,
Like really went down.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I think one of the first signs I ever got
like punched in the face you know, and me being
from like I remember once we was at summer summer camp,
same cousin cause Benny was like, hey, you see that
boy right there he was because we got you know,
like I said, we was just defending for ourselves. We
got signed up for a summer camp. He was like
(05:36):
that dude right there, he's gonna pick on you. He
probably gonna take take your food and your money. You
just have to bust them. I was like what he
was like, you gotta bust him. I was like, what
do you mean by that? He was like, punch. You
have to punch him. So I'm again from LA. I
was like, I gotta fire on it because that's what
we was like, oh, so I need to fire on it.
And he was like, yeah, you have the first time
he says something to you, you have to fire on it.
(05:58):
And I was like, why would I do that? You know,
Like I couldn't understand. I was like, so my answer
is like So I was like where is he from?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He from? Like is he from another neighborhood?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Like because for us everything was was gang you know
what I mean? So I was just like, I mean,
is he like is he from a rival hood? Like
why Like what is the thing, Like I don't understand,
Like why do I got a problem with that dude?
Like who is he with? Like does he is his
cruel year? You know, you just know the origin store.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I need to know.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You just don't be punched, Like again, I'm from La,
Like you just don't. You just don't take off on
somebody without knowing what neighborhood in my end is there.
You know what I'm saying is that his apartment complex?
Can he leave in five minutes come back with a
stick with it?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like I don't. Don't just do that? You know.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
He was like you have to do it. They just
all the boys were like you have to do it.
And I was like, I was like, I'm only here
for the summer. They was like, you have to do it.
So I was like, okay, I was ready and like
(07:08):
and for some reason, I guess because I came as
their cousins, he didn't even he never even said anything
to me, So I just so, I guess because they
had already established that like not us, you know, right,
So but I was ready. I was like, Okay, here
(07:29):
we go. But either way, during that summer, we definitely
fought and I definitely was like this again, we fought
where I'm from, we fought for a reason. It was like,
but I mean the reason was stupid. You know, youve
on that street. I live on that street. But I
don't know this dude. But there was moments where we
(07:50):
were just in that summer. He was like, you're gonna
fight today. We gotta fight today. I was like, okay,
so we just had to fight that day. I still
don't know. I still don't know why we was fighting,
but we had to fight that day. But that was
phil for me. It was like, I mean that was DC.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You know, Oh that's I I love the comparison of
that experience compared to California, where you're like, well, there's
a reason for this. It might not be the smartest reason, no,
but there's yeah, but like there's it has been explained
to me why this person, you know, what's the deal
is here?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It's not just randomly today's.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
The day, Today's day.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Bro, Yeah, I mean I think that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean, and listen, it's anybody who's been paying attention
to the conversation since the summertime. Yeah, crime in DC,
like like we even have, like I have been reporting
on it talking about it. I don't want to downplay it.
You know, like a lot of cities. After twenty twenty,
crime in d C rose sharply, But before that crime
(08:55):
had really been trending downwards since like what you think
of as the high crime DC time the eighties and nineties. Yeah,
and so DC's on a loan in that. And when
you look at other cities, however, DC did have a
pretty like substantial jump. And when Trump made all of
his like big like, oh, We're coming into d C
(09:15):
for the crime, crime is actually trending down at that point.
But I do think that just like most cities. I mean,
I don't like that crime is just a reality of
living in the city, but it is. I mean, it
just is the reality living in a place like DC.
And I don't think that anybody should. I don't say
(09:37):
this to poop pooh it and be like, well, if
you live here, you better be ready for crime. I
would say, it is a city. And so if you
come to a city that you're not familiar with, you're
not from here, you don't.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Know the culture, you don't know the norms.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, I would tell anybody who comes to any city
to you know, like keep your head on a swivel.
(10:28):
I hear about. I mean, I don't. I gets so
complicated to talk about. Yeah, I think that if I'm
being real, the expectation that you should be able to
walk around a city like DC and not have that
you that you can abandon common sense, that's just not
going to happen, right, And so I don't want to
(10:48):
blame people who are the victims of crime, but I
do think what we It's a complicated conversation to have.
But I'll hear people who go to cities and expect
it to be something they saw on TikTok of like, oh,
why can't I you know, just like and it's like, well,
you can't because it's a city, and so you need
to understand that when you come.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah you yeah, Like why it's okay, it's two in
the morning, you're drunk and you parked on a side street. Yes,
I just don't understand what expectations you had.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Again, I mean again, I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I know it probably sounds like I'm blaming the victim,
but I remember reading about somebody whose car was stolen
and I was like, oh, this is a weird case.
And I read and they said, oh, well, I had
to run into the to to grab my dry cleaning,
so left my car running with the keys in it
for a few minutes, door unlocked, and I thought, well,
(11:41):
what are we doing? You know, like, I almost feel
like it's not again. I don't want to blame a victim,
but this is not behavior that you should be I
wouldn't I wouldn't do that in the suburbs. I wouldn't
do that anywhere, you know, like, but these I guess to,
I guess to. I said that to say. I get
very concerned about the way that we talk about crime
in cities, particularly DC, and I do actually feel that
(12:03):
that is why the way that we talk about crime
enabled Trump to do what he did in DC. Right
that even though crime was trending downward, we allowed a
handful of high profile, yet rare incidents that had very
you know, visceral images. I'm thinking of like the Doge
(12:24):
staffer who got into an incident. Yeah, big balls. So
I understand. I think there's just something that happens when
you have an image of somebody bloodied and beaten that
is so visceral that that the truth doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It doesn't matter that crime is down.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It doesn't matter that violent crimesm It doesn't matter that
our city council and our mayor at that point had
actually taken quite I would argue drastic steps, perhaps too
drastic to deal with crime, youth curfused. All of that
was our mayor, Muriel Bowser. People want to pretend that
that was all Trump. Not so our mayor was already
taking some very hard line anti crimes crime stances that
(12:59):
a lot of I gets in the.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
City thought was overboard. Right.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Again, it's complex because there are plenty of old school DC,
longtime residents, Black residents who would say, well, we need
to do something. So it's not It's not as if
every black resident in DC is against hardline crime, you know, crackdowns.
That's a whole other conversation that really runs deep in
(13:25):
our communities, as I'm sure you know. But no, yeah, yeah,
the conversation around crime is just so complex in our cities,
and DC is no different. I guess I'll put it
that way.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's also like, uh an example of like when you
say this city or this location, the crime rate is
this one number, either up or down. There's there's no
discussion around well, areas like you know, it's certain nuances.
It's like nobody's getting their carjacked in front of the Smithsonian.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
No, and that was the crazy thing.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, I'm like when they cracked down, when they when
they had federal agents for the longest time, the agents
were in like near the White House, the Smithsonian, places
where like people are not experiencing.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Everybody's yeah, like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
You know, in in areas where there's yeah, obviously, like
there are crimes of survival there, you know what I'm saying,
And you're not asking.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Nobody's asking like how we got here?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You feel me like, and maybe that crime is Yeah,
I jumped the I hopped the turnstile to get on
the train. Okay, So did I steal from the city?
I mean, I guess you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay,
you're gonna call that a crime? I mean, I mean,
I guess you know, did this little child, did this
little child come in here and grab an extra back,
(14:43):
you know, an extra cart in the milk?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So does that mean that shoplifting is a problem? What
do you want me to say?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, But then also,
like you said, the ridiculousness of being like you just
gonna lead a car running outside while you jump into
the Like I kind of feel like you wanted your
car stolen, Like who leaves their car run? Like what
is you talking about? You know what I'm saying? And
why would you do that? I just like, look around,
that's a pawn shop right there. Bro, there's like a
(15:12):
you know, we buy gold right here, homie, Like there's
a liquor store right there.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Maybe you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
What is you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Do you know anybody over here? Like this is not
your like, this is not your neighborhood. So like obviously
and a lot of times, which is another thing that
I wish we could would be a part of just
the crime and poverty discussion. It is like sometimes it's
like when you live in that community, you are also nervous.
You are also scared and protective of your own neighborhood.
(15:42):
So if I see a car I don't recognize, if
I see a person, I don't understand, Like my knee
jerk reaction is to be like, well, wait, what is
your business here?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Like who are you? Why are you over here? Who
do you know?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And some of that is not it's not aggression as
if like you know, as as if that we are
these are baryons that people talk.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
No, it's protection. It's like I don't know your business here.
I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I don't know if you're I don't know, like I
don't know you, We've never seen you. Like why would
I just I'm gonna say something because I don't know
who you are, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And like I don't know what you're doing in here.
We come from neighborhoods where like.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
The Amtrak train would just happen to stop on Alameda
in Compton aff full of guns, you know, and like,
oh there's an there's an abandon there's an abandoned buick.
If you pop the truck, there's drugs and guns in it,
Like whose car is this? You know what I'm saying,
Like like these things I wish I was making them up.
(16:42):
These things happen, you know. So some of it is
just as simple as like you walked into a place
and whether you know it or not, you are a threat.
So I'm being as protected as anyone would be.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I don't know who you are.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't know why you're here, you know, and as
much as as much.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And I'm like, and y'all do the same to us.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Y'all do the same to us when we walk into
walk into the department stores that you think we don't
belong in.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Hey, hey, doing you look at or something?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'm like, you're scared, aren't you?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I'm like me too, fam And I think it really
connects to what I was saying earlier of the way neighborhoods,
especially in places like DC, change so quickly. Like when
you have people who have just moved here or not
from here, who walk around and they are giving off
(17:41):
an aura of like, I don't belong here, I'm scared,
and then you're you.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You might not even they might not even.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Realize that they're actually projecting something that they maybe don't
even want to be projecting.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, when you walk by people like like, I live
in a building that is that is next door to
someone who has lived there for like decades. Yeah, when
you see her out on her porch, you smile and
you say hello, you wave and say hello. If you
come to this neighborhood and don't do that, you are
signaling something, whether you understand it or or not right.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
And so I think that when.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We come when it comes to what it means to
feel safe and belong in communities, I want to live
in a real community, not a community of people who
are walking around projecting fear from people that they don't
know and haven't bothered to get to know.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
And I think that really is.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
The undercurrent of what's going on, at least in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Now do.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So last question, you're planning the perfect day. Friend comes
into town. So let's let's make it perfect for you.
So like, are you going to where did they fly into?
Did they fly into Ronald Reagan, b w I or Dulles?
Remember this is perfect, This is perfect?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Okay, Well I would have said, uh, d C A
Reagan the it's been a little dicey lake, but it is.
But it is the closest airport to the city you
can I have. This is my smuggest thing.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
You could.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
You could even take bike share to d C, a
which I've done before. So just so just for okay,
ease ease of getting into the city. Let's say they're
flying into DA.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So ease so so easy get into there. Flying in
d C a d c A. You got twenty four
hours with them. Where are we going to breakfast?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Lunch? What are we kicking it?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Let's just say and again it's perfect. So whatever monthly event,
this just happens to be the month or the day
that it's happening, whether it's a day, party, night, thing off.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
At the airport right now.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I got it. So we're getting into a time machine
and so silly perfec day.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's a perfect day.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But there was this spot and it's I I really
do feel like somebody could write an essay the best.
My favorite brunch brought in DC was Forever Marvin. It
was a Marvin Gaye I guess so a theme restaurant
sounds a little sounds a little funky, but it was
like a restaurant in tribute to Marvin gay Okay. So
there's an era in DC that it sounds so whack
(20:43):
to even say, but like the first iteration, the first
Obama administration, and this is not to be like ra
rao Obama, but there was an influx of just like
young black folks in the city. The energy in the city,
just like the energy really changed and it actually, I
actually do think it's true what they say that DC
(21:05):
the vibe can change with political administrations because you got
an influx of people who move in and then an inflex.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
People who move out.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
And so I remember living in the district when the
Bush administration left and the Obama administration came in for
the first time, and like that talk about a fucking
culture shift. And so I would say, we're going, we're
getting in a time machine. We're doing a Marvin's Rooftop brunch.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Woa, okay, I used to have.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I mean, I don't even I don't even want to,
thank thank god, I don't remember a lot of those times. Yes,
it used to be so fun. They would have DJs
and lovely rooftop And this also was back in the
day when like everything is so expensive. Now, this was
back when you could really like do some damage at
a at a at a bottomless brunch and it wouldn't
(21:52):
it wouldn't be that that expensive. So we're gonna we're
gonna go to brunch there. Uh that's yeah, that's what
we're gonna eat. We're gonna have that long, kind of
boozy rooftop brunch with dancing and DJs at the.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Marvin Rooftop Okay, Marvin Rooftop, all right, So that's brunch.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I love it. So that's brunch. That's food. We've kicked it.
That's music.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Are we I don't know when, Like, are we getting
a hookah because some reason hookah has kidnapped the black people, Like.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Oh my god, I have asthma, so I will watch
someone dude.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, so may Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What we're doing is it's a Sunday and the weather
is perfect. Okay, we are going to one of my
favorites bosts in the city, Malcolm X Park. Okay, they
do a just a They've been doing it since I've
since I've been here. I don't even know when it started,
but they do this amazing drum circle meet up thing
in the park. Like everybody in DC comes to Malcolm
(22:50):
X Park on Sundays. Okay, it is this big thing
we're basically when I say drum circle, it sounds hippy dippy,
and I guess it is a little bit. But people
bring saxs, phones, they bring trumpets, they bring drum kits,
like people will will assemble drum kits. And even if
you don't participate in the actual physical drum circle, the
vibe in the The vibe in the park is just
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there's there's nothing there. You have to come next time
that you're indy and the weather is nice and it's funny.
It's it's one of those asyncredous things where I'm not
even sure who started it or who runs I don't
think anybody really runs it. It's just a drop in thing.
So that's just a lovely word. We're getting a blanket,
we're sitting in the park and watching this. Uh it's
(23:34):
also a lovely place for sunset.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
In the city. Okay, this is really is.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
This just a nice probably my favorite thing to do
in the city.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's dope. So sunset all right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Uh So the last thing we're doing is we go
to dinner and then you're taking me back to the airport.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Where would I take you to dinner? Oh well, we
would probably get seafood from my favorite seafood place. Uh
it So it used this so it is a d
C staple. It used to be called Fish in the Hood,
but they changed the name. The owner was like, you know,
I have to say the neighborhood is changing. So now
(24:12):
it's called Fish in the Neighborhood. But it is still
a d C staple. They have mac and cheese there
that literally what street is that on?
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Oh? Let me look it.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Up because that sounds so familiar you.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Might have remembered it. It closed for a while.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Shut down for a while.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
See what is the address. Oh it's on Georgia, George.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah. Have you been there? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Oh my god? Their mac And let me tell you
the last time I was there, I was there with
somebody who is now my ex but like we're still friendly,
so this is not a like bashing this person story,
but we were like, oh, what should we get? Should get?
And we were like, oh, we had to share this
mac and cheese. When I tell you, I was like this,
it almost tore our relationship apart, trying to share their
mac and cheese because it's that good, but like we
(24:56):
should have just gotten our own mac and cheese.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, no for real, Okay, Fish in the Hood that
yeah on Georgia aff yup that place.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, that might be my favorite place to get seafood,
soul food in the city, although I might have to
say it's not my it's not my favorite. It's not
my favorite place to get food, but it's so historic.
I think that I always have to give a nod
to Ben's Chili Bowl. Have you not been?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, it's the.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Food is nothing. I mean no, I will never I
will never disparage them. But like the food is nothing
to write home about. But when you going as an experience,
and it's such a historic place in the city during
the riots after the assassination of MLK, it was it
was the place where everybody met up. It stayed open,
which was an unusual thing there. So I have to
I have to give a shout out to that place,
even though I probably wouldn't take someone there unless they
(25:49):
hadn't been.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, it's more.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, we got some spots like that, Like yeah, the
the barbecue spot that Tiffany Hattish and her family is
is kind of a part of is. Yeah, that's on
Western and Florence. I think, yeah, Western and Florence.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Either way, Like it's good, but like this is South.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Central, Like you should you should come down here, you
know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, so yeah for Shure, Like, nah,
we we got spots like that. This sounds like such
a great This is dope, dude, This is see and
this is the DC. These are the hellscapes that we
actually love and live in.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yes, yeah, it may be a bombed out healthscape.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh man, all right, Bridget, so tell them all the
new stuff you're working on, and then we're gonna go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We might make this a two parter because this was
an hour, but that's Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
My gosh, this has been so fun. I you've I
can't wait to go out and fall back in love
with my city again after this. Listen to the other
cities that you've done and fall in love as well.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
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Speaker 2 (27:23):
Oh, thank you so much. Bridget.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
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(27:57):
Chocolate City, We love you. Next time you'll hear from me,
it will be it does state of the Blackness. All right, now,
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don't you hit stop on this pod. You better listen
to these credits. I need you to finish this thing
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stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded in East
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