October 1, 2025 • 34 mins
In 2015, a man in Mississippi told the police he experienced a hate crime. That hate crime was someone burning the Mississippi state flag and spraying painting BLACKS RULE on his driveway. At no time in this history of Blackness have we ever used the phrase "Blacks Rule."
But now we have these Tyler Robinson text messages, and "anti-ICE" writing on the shell casings of the Dallas shooter's bullets... I don't know fam, it's giving "Blacks Rule" energy.
Sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/25/us/wwk-dallas-ice-facility-shooting https://www.wlox.com/story/29644391/man-discovers-burnt-ms-state-flag-racial-graffiti-in-front-of-his-pascagoula-home/
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Cols Media.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, before we get started, a reminder The Endling,
The Beautiful Endling, the poetry album that I did with
producer Matt Alsowski, Killing the Beat, Sawski Making all these Beats.
We did a poetry spoken word album together. We will
be performing live October twenty second at the Allegiant Theater
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in Los Angeles. Jamie be having stuff there too, so
the theater's pretty small, so I truly suggest that you
get your tickets asap. My wife refer to her by
her prefix doctor Almazaragoza. Petty will be reading from her
book King Ghana. Highly suggest you grab some tickets for this.
It's gonna be a good time. Man. Get to see
(00:48):
that other side of me, the poems that you've been
hearing at the end of the tap in.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It will be there. And yeah, man, it'll be great
to see y'all pull up on boom.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And I don't even know which parts of me, which
bricks of mine standing on top of each other. I
know which ones I wish were I build these to
last and those not to be seen, But who knows.
No entire chunks of my person gone into the ash
sheet of the ages.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
There's still other.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Parts of me reclaimed by the jungles, flora reimagined by
its fauna.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Things I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Were permanent had small cracks, and these plants popped through
simple room. Okay, do y'all even remember twenty fifteen?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I know Fetti Wop had hip hop in a choke
hold with Hindo. What's up? Hello? Heer stup bund and
stopped by sir ers Hey.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That had happened. Mike Brown's body was still cold? What else,
Olivia Rodrigo, good for you? A lot was going on
in twenty fifteen, However, in the midst of all this
and the burgeoning beginnings of the Black Lives Matter movement,
(02:09):
where discussions about race, politics, justice had reached a fever pitch.
And it's around the time that when I was writing
the Crooked album, that opening line of the song Crooked Ways,
where the grandpops who couldn't fathom the obamases, I don't
hate America, just the man she cheeps her promises, twenty
teens looking like the sixties.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It was in this moment that probably one of the
greatest gifts, to believe it or not, Black Twitter happened
in Mississippi, where a man discovers a hate crime right
in front of his house. This man discovers a burnt
(02:53):
Mississippi state flag and some racial graffiti in front of
his past. I don't even know how to say the
city Pasagola home he noticed. Matter of fact, I'll just
read the article from Pasagola, Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
This is WLOX.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Police are investigating a disturbing discovery in front of a
home in Pasagola, a burnt Mississippi flag next to racial graffiti.
Bob Komas, who lived in his home on Jackson Avenue
for nine years, says he always flies the Mississippi flag
(03:31):
next to the American flag while people. While the police
were investigating the vandalism, Koma said, it's a crime that's
connected to hate. I looked and just went really into
shock by seeing the flag that was being burned. Now again,
(03:51):
remember this was around the time that look, we were
talking about taking down Confederate statues.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Like this was a really.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Pivotal moment in the movement that this elderly white man
experienced this hate crime. He says, he gets really emotional.
Back to the article, he said, I get really emotional
when I saw the charred, shredded remains of the Mississippi flag.
He says, I'm tore up. It just really disturbs me.
(04:19):
That's the worst thing that can happen, a flag being burned.
I wouldn't want anybody to even walk on it, Kama said.
Around five thirty am on Monday, his daughter discovered the
burnt banner and the words spray painted on his driveway.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Blacks rule.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It is racist and hate and they're going to burn
your flag, to take your flag on the side of
your house, burn it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Why wouldn't that be hatred?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, as this picture, this image of this man standing
in front of his own driveway, in front of this
burnt Mississippi flag and the words in black spray paint,
Black's rule.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Written on his driveway.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
This image had black Twitter in a choke hold. His
image had me wheezing. Can you guess why this image
would have me wheezing? Just take a guess, And why
it had every black person that I know from here
to the Mississippi River laughing uncontrollably. Why because it ain't
(05:32):
a black person on earth that would write the words
blacks rule. Ain't nowhere in the world we would say that.
Why this man standing in front of his house, telling
on himself, because ain't nowhere in the world, no self
(05:52):
loving African American. We would never ever, I have never
heard the phrase Black's rule went. First of all, remember
how I told y'all, I'm gonna sock you in your
throat if you start a sentence with the blacks, because
I already know the next thing out your mouth gonna
is going to be incredibly racist if don't nobody say
(06:14):
Black's rule, sir. And to see this man saying, is
his hatred right, his hatred? In his hatred, sir?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
You wrote that yourself?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay it it was so obviously not us that it
became a meme. Now you have to remember this is
during the height of the Black lives the beginning of
the Black Lives Matter movement. So this man clearly felt
a way that out here in the in the in
(06:43):
the in the suburbs in Mississippi, that that that that
that that that that that hate goes both ways. And
I just need y'all to see this. Y'all disrespected the flag.
Let me show you, to let me tell you what
these black people do.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
They wrote Black's Rule on the driveway and it burnt
the flag Okay, I got to you that was so
funny because, like I said, ain't no way in the
world nobody Black wrote that I don't need to finish
the article. And I bet you you knew exactly where
I was going with this. Ain't no way in the
(07:15):
world no black person wrote Black's rule. We don't talk
like that. I just kind of feel like, now, I
don't know for a fact, but I know for a fact,
ain't nobody write anti ice or no damn.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Bullet hood politics.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Y'all? All right, welcome to this episode of just kind
of like you Joe Antenna's Okay, I kind of feel like, listen,
(07:55):
there's gonna be a number of caveats. We're gonna have
some caveart caveats on this. I'm just saying this don't
sit right. There is certain things right now that whether
you the far left, the far right, whatever the situation
you in, you looking at the US government, like, bro,
(08:15):
what is you doing? It is giving Black's Rule? Okay, y'all,
Whether we about to talk about them text messages from
Tyler Robinson, whether we're finish talk about the Epstein files,
or whether we're fin to talk about this Dallas shooting
here's caveat number one. All of these things are terrible.
This is not any sort of tape recording saying that
(08:38):
the issues, the situations for which we talking about are
something that is laughable. None of this is a laughing matter.
What is a laughing matter is what the hell the
government is saying about it. I'm from Los Angeles, and
as y'all know, Los Angeles is incredibly notorious the police
department for being freakishly corrupt and hello races. I'm from
(09:01):
the sprinkle some crack on them era where the police
were known for like planting drugs inside of cars, uh,
planting weapons, especially when you wanted to get somebody to talk, now,
during the during the street sweeping, the gang injunctions. Now,
I'm personally a little young for this. You know, when
this was like really hot, this was happening too, like
(09:23):
the teenagers and the you know, the early twenties, when
I was really more like nine to eleven, like I
was still barely getting into middle school when a lot
of this was happening. But the the the LAPD was
known like this, this is it's legend. You you'd see
a group of guys cops will hop out line them
(09:46):
all up because there was a suspicion of gang activity.
When you saw two or more of the blacks gathered together.
Their gangs are in the midst at little church joke.
But it would it would be a very normal sign
for you to line them all up, you know, search
them all and then they would start asking questions, hein,
(10:08):
you heard about this, a you've seen pooky, you've seen this.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You'd be like, I ain't seen nothing.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
They'd be like, oh, okay, word okay, hands on a card
and then they searching.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
They're like, ooh, what's this? Is this five pounds of weed?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And they would basically say that they found weed on
you and then would be like, oh man, we got
to arrest you unless you tell us something, you know,
and like give us something.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
What's going So this is how they would pump people information,
you know what I'm saying, When they roughed us up.
When they would us as in just the neighborhood kids.
Like I said, I was a little too young to
experience this stuff directly, but like when do you do?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Them were being roughed up and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
The the the excuse was the same excuse that y'all
would see during this time he had a weapon. My
life fell. I felt like my life was in dangers.
But they didn't just say it. They would put a
weapon there, right, you'd place a weapon and then take
a picture of it and then turn it in as evident,
and that was just it. It would be your word
(11:04):
as a street kid against the Los Angeles Police Department.
And what they were doing was cleaning.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Up our streets.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All the copaganda that you were seeing in the movies
and TV and stuff like that, everybody wanted somebody that
was tough on crime.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You know, all these movies.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
About cops where they have these special elite groups of
cops that don't really follow the rules. You know, they
don't you know, they go out there and they rub
the guys up. You know, if the streets are rough,
we're gonna be rough. That all that stuff made it
okay for the police to break all kind of laws
and to do all kinds of brutality to young people
(11:43):
in the streets. So the point I'm trying to make
is they just planted evidence on us us as in
the community. They just planted evidence, and that just it
meant that they would obfuscate any sort of accountability for
their actions. Now, while this is not we're not in
(12:04):
an era where the police need to do that anymore.
Because I'm telling you you've been around. They got dog
on cameras on their chest and still kill us. It
don't make no difference. Now, it seems like.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You do that to score some political points. I bring
you to.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The bullet inscribings of the shooter in Dallas. Walk with
me for a second, because y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It is giving blacks wool.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Now, as you may or may not know, there was
a shooting at the ice office in Dallas. It's a
very tragic thing. They said that there was some handwritten
notes left behind by the man who shot the Dallas
ice Field office on Wednesday. This today is September twenty
sixth that I'm recording this. This is Friday. I'm still
(13:28):
up in Portland. We just finished yesterday the Live behind
the Bastards. Shout out y'all who came through. That was
so fun, man, it's cool to see y'all like cool
to see I saw all four of the melanated fans
of the show. I appreciate y'all standing up and shouting out,
and I don't know when they're going to air this episode,
but it was fun, man, So yeah, I'm still up
(13:49):
here for that and.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Just having a good time.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But anyway, so last week somebody went up and shot
up the Ice office. Now, remember this is happening right
around the time as we know of Charlie kirk'ssassination and everybody,
especially in a time when see this is why this
needs to be a whole show, because in a time
(14:15):
that we're so polarized, it seems as though it is
much more expedient for these mass shooters, these killers to
fit into ideological boxes. And the reality is it's just
not that simple. Crazy come in all different sizes and shapes,
all different political slants, all different orientations, and the reality
(14:41):
is we just don't know. We just truly don't know.
And you can't know where a person stands because a
lot of times it moves right or it's so much
more complicated and nuanced than what the news want to
tell you. But when you're in the process, when you're
(15:03):
in stage six of an autocratic fascist takeover, you need
very clear villains. Because you noticed how Tyler Robinson, who
shot Charlie Kirk, went from him today somehow another that
ended up with Antifa being scheduled as a terrorist group.
(15:24):
And I'm like, first of all, it's not a group,
it is an idea.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I don't need to tell y'all that. Y'all understand.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I've never been to the ANTIFA meetings, but you know, apparently, oh,
all the people that storm Normandy, they probably card carrying
anti fascists.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
But what do I know.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Anyway, it was reported after this person was shot, he
took a bullet to his own dome. Okay, and in
this spray of bullets and violence, even some of the
Mexican detainees also lost their life. But that's not why
this is giving Black's rule. Why it is giving Black's
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rule because your boy cash pat tail it is.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's I'm sorry, y'all. This is funny.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It even makes it more funny that major news outlets
reported this. The shooters' writings were definitely anti Ice and
included hatred for the federal government. The prosecutor says, why
does he say that, Well, it's because.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
The bullets casings say anti Ice. Now, class.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
If this was truly a radical leftist, what would we
write on the bullet I hear you look we talked
about this yesterday. We would write fuck Ice, we might
write abolish Ice. What we would never say is anti Ice.
(17:07):
I have not seen a Listen, I've been outside in
Los Angeles since the raids started happening. I don't seen
every possible photo of protest sign. We don't drink we
drink our her chot thou warm because fuck Ice. We
don't offer ice coffee here because fuck Ice.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Listen, it's t.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Shirts, it's graffiti, it's everywhere it says fuck Ice. I
have never, ever, ever seen a single protest that's anti Ice. Listen,
Nobody says Black's rule. Okay, don't nobody say anti Ice.
(17:50):
I'm just saying, if you was trying to make it
look like a leftist did this saying anti Ice, the
math don't math.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We don't talk like that. Y'all gotta do y'all whole work.
It is giving.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Black's rule. Now, Listen, I don't know that boy. I
don't know the way he thought, and you don't either,
because he's dead. Okay, However, I will say this, Let's
just say he was radicalized. What the hell do you
think radicalized him? I'm just saying it just seemed like
(18:29):
and this, how to this this? See, this is how
fascism works. How it works is it it relies on cynicism.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
There is a real distrust for the system, which all
of us can agree on. And then that that distrust
for the system for brilliance. That's why the whole tail
and all shit work because there's a distrust for the institution, right,
and it feeds on that. It feeds on that distrust,
It feeds on that disillusionment, it on that lack of resources,
(19:03):
and then it tells you what the problem is. See
this was the same about again what we grew up
with with the tough on crime. It feeds on the
fact that, yes, gang violence is truly a problem.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Don't get us wrong, y'all.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Listen to the episode with thiszle y'all listen to the
episode on It Can Happen. Hear about it never being
about crime. It's never about that. But the thing is
we're the ones experience in the crime. When you talk about,
what about the gang shootings in Chicago, Like, that's not
your problem, that's Chicago's problem. You think we don't care,
But you think Chicago don't care about that. You think
(19:35):
la ain't cared about its own gang violence. We cared
about it. But what authoritarian plays on is the fact
that you cared about that, and then they get to
say they gonna fix that problem. And how they gonna
fix that problem is identify the problem, and oftentimes the
identity of that problem is somebody that then people don't
like that be the problem. Now, resources not what the
(19:57):
evidence shows us. Like we said again on the act
that happened here episode, the lack of resources be usually
the issue, right, And of course, you know there's a
tradition of camaraderie and belonging that is marred for just
sort of like gang membership and activity. And you know
(20:18):
it's understood, you know what I'm saying, Like, I've tried
my best in the show to humanize these young men
that participant in women that participate in that type of
type of life and activity because I get it. I understand.
I'm from the neighborhoods you from. I didn't make the
same choices they made, but I'm from the neighborhoods they're from.
But however, I'm also a victim of that stuff. There
(20:40):
were I couldn't the high school I wanted to go
to I couldn't go to because of gang stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I had to go to a whole other school because
of that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
So, like we all had to alter our lives, you know,
because of the reality of sort of the crime and
violence that was in our neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But that did not mean we needed the military.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
These gang these these these street sweepers, these gang jumptions,
these gang up to these massive conscerrations that didn't help.
But that's what authoritarianism uses. It uses your distrust, your
lack of safety, and then it says, uh huh, see
that your problem is them. So but that being said,
I mean, you running soldiers through their cities, especially with ice,
(21:24):
you to capture their grandmamas. That you snatching people off
the streets, What the hell you expect You can only
push people for so long. I mean like it's like, yeah,
it's like you've never experienced a bully. You know, you
experienced a bully. Bully pick on you take your lunch
every day, you know, like my my you know, prefer
to her buyer prefix doctor Alma. You know she somehow
(21:44):
another landed a job at my daughter's school. You know,
when she mess around here and and dealing with the
eighth grade. You know, little boys doing eighth grade boys stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You feel me?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And then one of them little boys is like, you're
gonna get tired. I'm tired of you picking on me.
Take one, he tests that little boy chin And now
that little boy who been picked on got his chin checked.
Now he in the office crying. I can't believe he
got violent. They parents in there saying, what are you
gonna do about your child? About this child being violent?
It's like, my nigga, what you're gonna do is teach
your son shut his fucking mouth. Bullies all of a
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sudden got a good sense of justice when somebody hit
him back. All of a sudden, they moral compass is clear.
All of a sudden, they not the violent one. You
feel me, That's what see. So so let's just say,
even if it was not a blacks rule situation, what
the hell you think was gonna happen? You think people
just gonna let you tell they family apart. I'm not
even saying I'm with it. I'm not even saying I
(22:39):
agree with it, because a don't. Because again that just
ended with that man dying. What I'm saying is ain't
no way on God's on al Gore's Internet, on Beyonce's Internet.
Ain't nowhere in the world in black Jesus' experience would
anybody write anti ice class? What would re write on
(23:01):
them bullets? But on top of that, why would we
write on the bullets?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That's my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
And the next thing that's really giving black swoar is
these text messages with Tyler robbertson next, Okay, We're back,
(23:51):
we are so back. Man, y'all gotta download the Hommy
Andy Mineo's new song. Man, He's got a song that's
a play on the return of the Mac.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Okay back, we are so back.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So I just think it's very convenient that and it
really fits very neatly into a narrative that this shooter
was a left wing radicalist who would write anti ice
on the shell cases. The next thing is, okay, can
we just be the Rocky Apollo Creed Predator meme of
(24:27):
the White arm and the black arm shaking hands where
we finally actually agree on something. I feel like if
there is any time ever in my life that I
feel grossly surprised to you find yourself standing on your
side of the line and you see somebody you.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Never thought you would see.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And the line that we standing in is the them
text ain't right line. And I'm looking over at Nick
motherfucking fuintes, I just like, Lord, forgive me for my
brass deliver. How the hell are we in the same
line right now? But as we know, our current government
is dead set on ending apparently just trans people just
(25:13):
ain't supposed to exist. I like, I just like feel
like at this point they used to go from ignoring
them to being like you, that's growth, stay away from me.
But now it's just like data problem. They don't exist.
Just y'all not supposed to be here. It just seemed
like that's just it. It's as I've never seen anything
like this in the sense that, like I understand racism
(25:35):
in a sense that it's just.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Like you just hate us.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You hate us because of whatever reason something like like
Robert said we was talking yesterday, some people are just dicks.
Some people are just terrible. They just I don't know
why they're racist. They just I don't know where it
came from. Just some people are just trash. But the
history of anti blackness and self hate and all that,
and colorism, it's clear, like that's clear. I I and
(26:03):
I kind of understand how it plays out, you know,
Asian Hay, like I can wrap my mind around that,
the trans one. I just can't wrap my mind around
the conclusion. It's I'm just it's so bizarre to me
because the conclusion is.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Just get rid of them.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I'm like, which by any means like y'all just
they just you just want them to not be in
your world, like I like, but.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
But they hear it's just so.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But anyway, it's they turned out whatever whatever they used
to pin on black people, like how is we getting like.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Why are HBCUs being threatened? What did we do?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
How are we catching strays?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Somehow another you had to twist your way into saying
after that, I mean, just devilware is product white boy,
kill kill Joe Golden boy. You had to somehow another
I don't even look, I expect you to try to
make him a leftist. What I ain't expect you to
do is try to somehow another twist this into trans ideology.
(27:12):
So it seemed to me very much black rules energy
that once you found out that that boy was not
as clear cut leftists as you wanted him to be
that it was much more complicated and for the and
again everybody wanted him to be on the other side
of the team, and for for the leftist circles that
(27:33):
he not just clear maga that boy is a gamer.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
He not just a groper. We don't know, you know
what I'm saying. He not just in that thing.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's so much gonna like these kids they be in.
All I know is he be in the darkest karters
of the internet. Based on the stuff that apparently y'all
so big on what people's inscribing on bullets, I just
it just feel like that's even giving to me. I
found a pound of marijuana and yo hoodie, my nigga,
(28:05):
who carries a pound of marijuana in the hoodie? Me?
It would make so much more sense. It was just
if I had some joints on me. Cops say he
found that AK forty seven, Like, where where did you
find an a? You understand I'm trying to say, I'm
talking about on us. I'm not talking about on this shooter.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But it just seemed very Black's rules energy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
When you look at these text messages, you know, the
text messages I'm talking about what you're trying to tell
me is that man got up there assembled a gun shot.
That boy got back down that thing ran and said, listen,
I'm finna go text my girl, who apparently, according to y'all,
was used to be a man, and I'm gonna tell
her delete these messages. This don't sound like Black's rule
(28:52):
to you. Can we read the text? Thing, Robinson, drop
what you are doing and look under my keyboard, and
then this is Cordon Ruders. When the roommate looked under
the keyboard, there was a note that allegedly said I
had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm
going to do it, and I'm going to take it.
So that's just written under that boy keyboard. And he
called his roommate to go get that note. Right, Robinson's roommate,
(29:15):
what you're joking?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Robinson said, I am still okay, my love, but I'm
stuck in arm for a little while longer yet, I
shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I
gotta grab.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
My rifle still.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
To be honest, I had hoped to keep this a
secret until I died of old age. I'm sorry to
involve you. You weren't the one who did it, right, Robinson,
I am I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
This don't sound like.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
That. Don't sound like Black's rule to you. That don't
sound like that boy that ain't nowhere in the world. Okay,
let's keep routing. I thought they roommate. I thought they
caught the person. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude.
They interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to
grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but
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most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet,
almost enough to get out, but there's a vehicle.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Lingering why why did you do it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be
negotiated out. Roommate, How long have you been planning this?
A bit over a week. I believe I could get close,
but there's a squad car parked right in front of it.
I already swept that spot, but I don't want to
chance it. You are telling me listen again, my caveat.
(30:38):
This might be all true, and look it. It might
be there might be a single black man in Mississippi
that would write Black's Rule.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
On the ground. I'm just saying it.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Show don't sound like this, really don't sound like, y'all
really will.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Look Okay, you Joann, listen. I might be dead wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay again I'm end this episode by saying I might
be dead wrong. I'm just saying all of this stuff
really sound like a pretense for what's happening right now for.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
A green light.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
And the reason why I feel very serious about like, man,
I think maybe this is just might be a green
light to do what they want to do is because.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Of Charlie Kirk's funeral.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Because going from Erica Kirk, who I do not know,
so don't listen to me.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
What do I know?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Going from Erica Kirk being like I forgive him to
Trump being like I ain't forgiving shit. I do not
love my enemies. I hate my enemies. I am not
praying for those who spitefully use me. You can keep
the beatitudes, my g and I'm out here. We're gonna
(32:02):
go after them by y'all like somehow or another y'all
being completely okay with Stephen Miller's speech, which was like
this is unequivocally Nazi shit. It's just kind of like,
but you get to but you get to have a
green light on a serious note, awesome, like MS till
(32:24):
like that little black boy whistled at me. Right, and
once that little black boy whistled at you, guess.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And man got drugged behind the car and then thrown
into some water. Why oh, because he whistled at me.
And what happened before that lady died. The lady that
said m mattil whistled at him, she admitted it was
a lie. Hm. I'm just saying, I don't know a
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single person that would write anti Ice on the bullet
and I a damn show.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I have never heard a single black person say blackswool
good politics. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.
You better listen to these credits. I need you to
finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay,
so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded
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to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics.
These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
next week.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, before we get started, a reminder The Endling,
The Beautiful Endling, the poetry album that I did with
producer Matt Alsowski, Killing the Beat, Sawski Making all these Beats.
We did a poetry spoken word album together. We will
be performing live October twenty second at the Allegiant Theater
(00:28):
in Los Angeles. Jamie be having stuff there too, so
the theater's pretty small, so I truly suggest that you
get your tickets asap. My wife refer to her by
her prefix doctor Almazaragoza. Petty will be reading from her
book King Ghana. Highly suggest you grab some tickets for this.
It's gonna be a good time. Man. Get to see
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that other side of me, the poems that you've been
hearing at the end of the tap in.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It will be there. And yeah, man, it'll be great
to see y'all pull up on boom.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And I don't even know which parts of me, which
bricks of mine standing on top of each other. I
know which ones I wish were I build these to
last and those not to be seen, But who knows.
No entire chunks of my person gone into the ash
sheet of the ages.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
There's still other.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Parts of me reclaimed by the jungles, flora reimagined by
its fauna.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Things I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Were permanent had small cracks, and these plants popped through
simple room. Okay, do y'all even remember twenty fifteen?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I know Fetti Wop had hip hop in a choke
hold with Hindo. What's up? Hello? Heer stup bund and
stopped by sir ers Hey.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That had happened. Mike Brown's body was still cold? What else,
Olivia Rodrigo, good for you? A lot was going on
in twenty fifteen, However, in the midst of all this
and the burgeoning beginnings of the Black Lives Matter movement,
(02:09):
where discussions about race, politics, justice had reached a fever pitch.
And it's around the time that when I was writing
the Crooked album, that opening line of the song Crooked Ways,
where the grandpops who couldn't fathom the obamases, I don't
hate America, just the man she cheeps her promises, twenty
teens looking like the sixties.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It was in this moment that probably one of the
greatest gifts, to believe it or not, Black Twitter happened
in Mississippi, where a man discovers a hate crime right
in front of his house. This man discovers a burnt
(02:53):
Mississippi state flag and some racial graffiti in front of
his past. I don't even know how to say the
city Pasagola home he noticed. Matter of fact, I'll just
read the article from Pasagola, Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
This is WLOX.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Police are investigating a disturbing discovery in front of a
home in Pasagola, a burnt Mississippi flag next to racial graffiti.
Bob Komas, who lived in his home on Jackson Avenue
for nine years, says he always flies the Mississippi flag
(03:31):
next to the American flag while people. While the police
were investigating the vandalism, Koma said, it's a crime that's
connected to hate. I looked and just went really into
shock by seeing the flag that was being burned. Now again,
(03:51):
remember this was around the time that look, we were
talking about taking down Confederate statues.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Like this was a really.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Pivotal moment in the movement that this elderly white man
experienced this hate crime. He says, he gets really emotional.
Back to the article, he said, I get really emotional
when I saw the charred, shredded remains of the Mississippi flag.
He says, I'm tore up. It just really disturbs me.
(04:19):
That's the worst thing that can happen, a flag being burned.
I wouldn't want anybody to even walk on it, Kama said.
Around five thirty am on Monday, his daughter discovered the
burnt banner and the words spray painted on his driveway.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Blacks rule.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It is racist and hate and they're going to burn
your flag, to take your flag on the side of
your house, burn it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Why wouldn't that be hatred?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, as this picture, this image of this man standing
in front of his own driveway, in front of this
burnt Mississippi flag and the words in black spray paint,
Black's rule.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Written on his driveway.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
This image had black Twitter in a choke hold. His
image had me wheezing. Can you guess why this image
would have me wheezing? Just take a guess, And why
it had every black person that I know from here
to the Mississippi River laughing uncontrollably. Why because it ain't
(05:32):
a black person on earth that would write the words
blacks rule. Ain't nowhere in the world we would say that.
Why this man standing in front of his house, telling
on himself, because ain't nowhere in the world, no self
(05:52):
loving African American. We would never ever, I have never
heard the phrase Black's rule went. First of all, remember
how I told y'all, I'm gonna sock you in your
throat if you start a sentence with the blacks, because
I already know the next thing out your mouth gonna
is going to be incredibly racist if don't nobody say
(06:14):
Black's rule, sir. And to see this man saying, is
his hatred right, his hatred? In his hatred, sir?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
You wrote that yourself?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay it it was so obviously not us that it
became a meme. Now you have to remember this is
during the height of the Black lives the beginning of
the Black Lives Matter movement. So this man clearly felt
a way that out here in the in the in
(06:43):
the in the suburbs in Mississippi, that that that that
that that that that that hate goes both ways. And
I just need y'all to see this. Y'all disrespected the flag.
Let me show you, to let me tell you what
these black people do.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
They wrote Black's Rule on the driveway and it burnt
the flag Okay, I got to you that was so
funny because, like I said, ain't no way in the
world nobody Black wrote that I don't need to finish
the article. And I bet you you knew exactly where
I was going with this. Ain't no way in the
(07:15):
world no black person wrote Black's rule. We don't talk
like that. I just kind of feel like, now, I
don't know for a fact, but I know for a fact,
ain't nobody write anti ice or no damn.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Bullet hood politics.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Y'all? All right, welcome to this episode of just kind
of like you Joe Antenna's Okay, I kind of feel like, listen,
(07:55):
there's gonna be a number of caveats. We're gonna have
some caveart caveats on this. I'm just saying this don't
sit right. There is certain things right now that whether
you the far left, the far right, whatever the situation
you in, you looking at the US government, like, bro,
(08:15):
what is you doing? It is giving Black's Rule? Okay, y'all,
Whether we about to talk about them text messages from
Tyler Robinson, whether we're finish talk about the Epstein files,
or whether we're fin to talk about this Dallas shooting
here's caveat number one. All of these things are terrible.
This is not any sort of tape recording saying that
(08:38):
the issues, the situations for which we talking about are
something that is laughable. None of this is a laughing matter.
What is a laughing matter is what the hell the
government is saying about it. I'm from Los Angeles, and
as y'all know, Los Angeles is incredibly notorious the police
department for being freakishly corrupt and hello races. I'm from
(09:01):
the sprinkle some crack on them era where the police
were known for like planting drugs inside of cars, uh,
planting weapons, especially when you wanted to get somebody to talk, now,
during the during the street sweeping, the gang injunctions. Now,
I'm personally a little young for this. You know, when
this was like really hot, this was happening too, like
(09:23):
the teenagers and the you know, the early twenties, when
I was really more like nine to eleven, like I
was still barely getting into middle school when a lot
of this was happening. But the the the LAPD was
known like this, this is it's legend. You you'd see
a group of guys cops will hop out line them
(09:46):
all up because there was a suspicion of gang activity.
When you saw two or more of the blacks gathered together.
Their gangs are in the midst at little church joke.
But it would it would be a very normal sign
for you to line them all up, you know, search
them all and then they would start asking questions, hein,
(10:08):
you heard about this, a you've seen pooky, you've seen this.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You'd be like, I ain't seen nothing.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
They'd be like, oh, okay, word okay, hands on a card
and then they searching.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
They're like, ooh, what's this? Is this five pounds of weed?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And they would basically say that they found weed on
you and then would be like, oh man, we got
to arrest you unless you tell us something, you know,
and like give us something.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
What's going So this is how they would pump people information,
you know what I'm saying, When they roughed us up.
When they would us as in just the neighborhood kids.
Like I said, I was a little too young to
experience this stuff directly, but like when do you do?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Them were being roughed up and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
The the the excuse was the same excuse that y'all
would see during this time he had a weapon. My
life fell. I felt like my life was in dangers.
But they didn't just say it. They would put a
weapon there, right, you'd place a weapon and then take
a picture of it and then turn it in as evident,
and that was just it. It would be your word
(11:04):
as a street kid against the Los Angeles Police Department.
And what they were doing was cleaning.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Up our streets.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All the copaganda that you were seeing in the movies
and TV and stuff like that, everybody wanted somebody that
was tough on crime.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You know, all these movies.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
About cops where they have these special elite groups of
cops that don't really follow the rules. You know, they
don't you know, they go out there and they rub
the guys up. You know, if the streets are rough,
we're gonna be rough. That all that stuff made it
okay for the police to break all kind of laws
and to do all kinds of brutality to young people
(11:43):
in the streets. So the point I'm trying to make
is they just planted evidence on us us as in
the community. They just planted evidence, and that just it
meant that they would obfuscate any sort of accountability for
their actions. Now, while this is not we're not in
(12:04):
an era where the police need to do that anymore.
Because I'm telling you you've been around. They got dog
on cameras on their chest and still kill us. It
don't make no difference. Now, it seems like.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You do that to score some political points. I bring
you to.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The bullet inscribings of the shooter in Dallas. Walk with
me for a second, because y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It is giving blacks wool.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Now, as you may or may not know, there was
a shooting at the ice office in Dallas. It's a
very tragic thing. They said that there was some handwritten
notes left behind by the man who shot the Dallas
ice Field office on Wednesday. This today is September twenty
sixth that I'm recording this. This is Friday. I'm still
(13:28):
up in Portland. We just finished yesterday the Live behind
the Bastards. Shout out y'all who came through. That was
so fun, man, it's cool to see y'all like cool
to see I saw all four of the melanated fans
of the show. I appreciate y'all standing up and shouting out,
and I don't know when they're going to air this episode,
but it was fun, man, So yeah, I'm still up
(13:49):
here for that and.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Just having a good time.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But anyway, so last week somebody went up and shot
up the Ice office. Now, remember this is happening right
around the time as we know of Charlie kirk'ssassination and everybody,
especially in a time when see this is why this
needs to be a whole show, because in a time
(14:15):
that we're so polarized, it seems as though it is
much more expedient for these mass shooters, these killers to
fit into ideological boxes. And the reality is it's just
not that simple. Crazy come in all different sizes and shapes,
all different political slants, all different orientations, and the reality
(14:41):
is we just don't know. We just truly don't know.
And you can't know where a person stands because a
lot of times it moves right or it's so much
more complicated and nuanced than what the news want to
tell you. But when you're in the process, when you're
(15:03):
in stage six of an autocratic fascist takeover, you need
very clear villains. Because you noticed how Tyler Robinson, who
shot Charlie Kirk, went from him today somehow another that
ended up with Antifa being scheduled as a terrorist group.
(15:24):
And I'm like, first of all, it's not a group,
it is an idea.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I don't need to tell y'all that. Y'all understand.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I've never been to the ANTIFA meetings, but you know, apparently, oh,
all the people that storm Normandy, they probably card carrying
anti fascists.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
But what do I know.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Anyway, it was reported after this person was shot, he
took a bullet to his own dome. Okay, and in
this spray of bullets and violence, even some of the
Mexican detainees also lost their life. But that's not why
this is giving Black's rule. Why it is giving Black's
(16:06):
rule because your boy cash pat tail it is.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's I'm sorry, y'all. This is funny.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It even makes it more funny that major news outlets
reported this. The shooters' writings were definitely anti Ice and
included hatred for the federal government. The prosecutor says, why
does he say that, Well, it's because.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
The bullets casings say anti Ice. Now, class.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
If this was truly a radical leftist, what would we
write on the bullet I hear you look we talked
about this yesterday. We would write fuck Ice, we might
write abolish Ice. What we would never say is anti Ice.
(17:07):
I have not seen a Listen, I've been outside in
Los Angeles since the raids started happening. I don't seen
every possible photo of protest sign. We don't drink we
drink our her chot thou warm because fuck Ice. We
don't offer ice coffee here because fuck Ice.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Listen, it's t.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Shirts, it's graffiti, it's everywhere it says fuck Ice. I
have never, ever, ever seen a single protest that's anti Ice. Listen,
Nobody says Black's rule. Okay, don't nobody say anti Ice.
(17:50):
I'm just saying, if you was trying to make it
look like a leftist did this saying anti Ice, the
math don't math.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We don't talk like that. Y'all gotta do y'all whole work.
It is giving.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Black's rule. Now, Listen, I don't know that boy. I
don't know the way he thought, and you don't either,
because he's dead. Okay, However, I will say this, Let's
just say he was radicalized. What the hell do you
think radicalized him? I'm just saying it just seemed like
(18:29):
and this, how to this this? See, this is how
fascism works. How it works is it it relies on cynicism.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
There is a real distrust for the system, which all
of us can agree on. And then that that distrust
for the system for brilliance. That's why the whole tail
and all shit work because there's a distrust for the institution, right,
and it feeds on that. It feeds on that distrust,
It feeds on that disillusionment, it on that lack of resources,
(19:03):
and then it tells you what the problem is. See
this was the same about again what we grew up
with with the tough on crime. It feeds on the
fact that, yes, gang violence is truly a problem.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Don't get us wrong, y'all.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Listen to the episode with thiszle y'all listen to the
episode on It Can Happen. Hear about it never being
about crime. It's never about that. But the thing is
we're the ones experience in the crime. When you talk about,
what about the gang shootings in Chicago, Like, that's not
your problem, that's Chicago's problem. You think we don't care,
But you think Chicago don't care about that. You think
(19:35):
la ain't cared about its own gang violence. We cared
about it. But what authoritarian plays on is the fact
that you cared about that, and then they get to
say they gonna fix that problem. And how they gonna
fix that problem is identify the problem, and oftentimes the
identity of that problem is somebody that then people don't
like that be the problem. Now, resources not what the
(19:57):
evidence shows us. Like we said again on the act
that happened here episode, the lack of resources be usually
the issue, right, And of course, you know there's a
tradition of camaraderie and belonging that is marred for just
sort of like gang membership and activity. And you know
(20:18):
it's understood, you know what I'm saying, Like, I've tried
my best in the show to humanize these young men
that participant in women that participate in that type of
type of life and activity because I get it. I understand.
I'm from the neighborhoods you from. I didn't make the
same choices they made, but I'm from the neighborhoods they're from.
But however, I'm also a victim of that stuff. There
(20:40):
were I couldn't the high school I wanted to go
to I couldn't go to because of gang stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I had to go to a whole other school because
of that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
So, like we all had to alter our lives, you know,
because of the reality of sort of the crime and
violence that was in our neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But that did not mean we needed the military.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
These gang these these these street sweepers, these gang jumptions,
these gang up to these massive conscerrations that didn't help.
But that's what authoritarianism uses. It uses your distrust, your
lack of safety, and then it says, uh huh, see
that your problem is them. So but that being said,
I mean, you running soldiers through their cities, especially with ice,
(21:24):
you to capture their grandmamas. That you snatching people off
the streets, What the hell you expect You can only
push people for so long. I mean like it's like, yeah,
it's like you've never experienced a bully. You know, you
experienced a bully. Bully pick on you take your lunch
every day, you know, like my my you know, prefer
to her buyer prefix doctor Alma. You know she somehow
(21:44):
another landed a job at my daughter's school. You know,
when she mess around here and and dealing with the
eighth grade. You know, little boys doing eighth grade boys stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You feel me?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And then one of them little boys is like, you're
gonna get tired. I'm tired of you picking on me.
Take one, he tests that little boy chin And now
that little boy who been picked on got his chin checked.
Now he in the office crying. I can't believe he
got violent. They parents in there saying, what are you
gonna do about your child? About this child being violent?
It's like, my nigga, what you're gonna do is teach
your son shut his fucking mouth. Bullies all of a
(22:18):
sudden got a good sense of justice when somebody hit
him back. All of a sudden, they moral compass is clear.
All of a sudden, they not the violent one. You
feel me, That's what see. So so let's just say,
even if it was not a blacks rule situation, what
the hell you think was gonna happen? You think people
just gonna let you tell they family apart. I'm not
even saying I'm with it. I'm not even saying I
(22:39):
agree with it, because a don't. Because again that just
ended with that man dying. What I'm saying is ain't
no way on God's on al Gore's Internet, on Beyonce's Internet.
Ain't nowhere in the world in black Jesus' experience would
anybody write anti ice class? What would re write on
(23:01):
them bullets? But on top of that, why would we
write on the bullets?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That's my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
And the next thing that's really giving black swoar is
these text messages with Tyler robbertson next, Okay, We're back,
(23:51):
we are so back. Man, y'all gotta download the Hommy
Andy Mineo's new song. Man, He's got a song that's
a play on the return of the Mac.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Okay back, we are so back.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So I just think it's very convenient that and it
really fits very neatly into a narrative that this shooter
was a left wing radicalist who would write anti ice
on the shell cases. The next thing is, okay, can
we just be the Rocky Apollo Creed Predator meme of
(24:27):
the White arm and the black arm shaking hands where
we finally actually agree on something. I feel like if
there is any time ever in my life that I
feel grossly surprised to you find yourself standing on your
side of the line and you see somebody you.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Never thought you would see.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And the line that we standing in is the them
text ain't right line. And I'm looking over at Nick
motherfucking fuintes, I just like, Lord, forgive me for my
brass deliver. How the hell are we in the same
line right now? But as we know, our current government
is dead set on ending apparently just trans people just
(25:13):
ain't supposed to exist. I like, I just like feel
like at this point they used to go from ignoring
them to being like you, that's growth, stay away from me.
But now it's just like data problem. They don't exist.
Just y'all not supposed to be here. It just seemed
like that's just it. It's as I've never seen anything
like this in the sense that, like I understand racism
(25:35):
in a sense that it's just.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Like you just hate us.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You hate us because of whatever reason something like like
Robert said we was talking yesterday, some people are just dicks.
Some people are just terrible. They just I don't know
why they're racist. They just I don't know where it
came from. Just some people are just trash. But the
history of anti blackness and self hate and all that,
and colorism, it's clear, like that's clear. I I and
(26:03):
I kind of understand how it plays out, you know,
Asian Hay, like I can wrap my mind around that,
the trans one. I just can't wrap my mind around
the conclusion. It's I'm just it's so bizarre to me
because the conclusion is.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Just get rid of them.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I'm like, which by any means like y'all just
they just you just want them to not be in
your world, like I like, but.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
But they hear it's just so.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But anyway, it's they turned out whatever whatever they used
to pin on black people, like how is we getting like.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Why are HBCUs being threatened? What did we do?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
How are we catching strays?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Somehow another you had to twist your way into saying
after that, I mean, just devilware is product white boy,
kill kill Joe Golden boy. You had to somehow another
I don't even look, I expect you to try to
make him a leftist. What I ain't expect you to
do is try to somehow another twist this into trans ideology.
(27:12):
So it seemed to me very much black rules energy
that once you found out that that boy was not
as clear cut leftists as you wanted him to be
that it was much more complicated and for the and
again everybody wanted him to be on the other side
of the team, and for for the leftist circles that
(27:33):
he not just clear maga that boy is a gamer.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
He not just a groper. We don't know, you know
what I'm saying. He not just in that thing.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's so much gonna like these kids they be in.
All I know is he be in the darkest karters
of the internet. Based on the stuff that apparently y'all
so big on what people's inscribing on bullets, I just
it just feel like that's even giving to me. I
found a pound of marijuana and yo hoodie, my nigga,
(28:05):
who carries a pound of marijuana in the hoodie? Me?
It would make so much more sense. It was just
if I had some joints on me. Cops say he
found that AK forty seven, Like, where where did you
find an a? You understand I'm trying to say, I'm
talking about on us. I'm not talking about on this shooter.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But it just seemed very Black's rules energy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
When you look at these text messages, you know, the
text messages I'm talking about what you're trying to tell
me is that man got up there assembled a gun shot.
That boy got back down that thing ran and said, listen,
I'm finna go text my girl, who apparently, according to y'all,
was used to be a man, and I'm gonna tell
her delete these messages. This don't sound like Black's rule
(28:52):
to you. Can we read the text? Thing, Robinson, drop
what you are doing and look under my keyboard, and
then this is Cordon Ruders. When the roommate looked under
the keyboard, there was a note that allegedly said I
had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm
going to do it, and I'm going to take it.
So that's just written under that boy keyboard. And he
called his roommate to go get that note. Right, Robinson's roommate,
(29:15):
what you're joking?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Robinson said, I am still okay, my love, but I'm
stuck in arm for a little while longer yet, I
shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I
gotta grab.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
My rifle still.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
To be honest, I had hoped to keep this a
secret until I died of old age. I'm sorry to
involve you. You weren't the one who did it, right, Robinson,
I am I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
This don't sound like.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
That. Don't sound like Black's rule to you. That don't
sound like that boy that ain't nowhere in the world. Okay,
let's keep routing. I thought they roommate. I thought they
caught the person. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude.
They interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to
grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but
(30:02):
most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet,
almost enough to get out, but there's a vehicle.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Lingering why why did you do it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be
negotiated out. Roommate, How long have you been planning this?
A bit over a week. I believe I could get close,
but there's a squad car parked right in front of it.
I already swept that spot, but I don't want to
chance it. You are telling me listen again, my caveat.
(30:38):
This might be all true, and look it. It might
be there might be a single black man in Mississippi
that would write Black's Rule.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
On the ground. I'm just saying it.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Show don't sound like this, really don't sound like, y'all
really will.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Look Okay, you Joann, listen. I might be dead wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay again I'm end this episode by saying I might
be dead wrong. I'm just saying all of this stuff
really sound like a pretense for what's happening right now for.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
A green light.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
And the reason why I feel very serious about like, man,
I think maybe this is just might be a green
light to do what they want to do is because.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Of Charlie Kirk's funeral.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Because going from Erica Kirk, who I do not know,
so don't listen to me.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
What do I know?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Going from Erica Kirk being like I forgive him to
Trump being like I ain't forgiving shit. I do not
love my enemies. I hate my enemies. I am not
praying for those who spitefully use me. You can keep
the beatitudes, my g and I'm out here. We're gonna
(32:02):
go after them by y'all like somehow or another y'all
being completely okay with Stephen Miller's speech, which was like
this is unequivocally Nazi shit. It's just kind of like,
but you get to but you get to have a
green light on a serious note, awesome, like MS till
(32:24):
like that little black boy whistled at me. Right, and
once that little black boy whistled at you, guess.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And man got drugged behind the car and then thrown
into some water. Why oh, because he whistled at me.
And what happened before that lady died. The lady that
said m mattil whistled at him, she admitted it was
a lie. Hm. I'm just saying, I don't know a
(32:54):
single person that would write anti Ice on the bullet
and I a damn show.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I have never heard a single black person say blackswool
good politics. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.
You better listen to these credits. I need you to
finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay,
so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded
in East Lost Boyle Heights by your boy Propaganda. Tap
in with me at prop hip hop dot com. If
(33:41):
you're in the Coldbrew coffee we got terraform Coldbrew. You
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edited and mastered by your boy Matt Alsowski Killing the
beast Softly. Check out his website Mattowsowski dot com. I'm
a spelling for you because I know M A T
(34:04):
T O S O W s ki dot com Matthowsowski
dot com. He got more music and stuff like that
on there, so gonna check out. The heat Politics is
a member of cool Zone Media, executive produced by Sophie Lichterman,
part of the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your theme music and
(34:24):
scoring is also by the one and nobly Mattawsowski. Still
killing the beats softly, So listen, don't let nobody lie
to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics.
These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
next week.
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