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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Cools Media. All right, first things first.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Next week is the Inling the Beautiful Inlings live performance
October twenty second at the Allegian Theater.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I would really love to see you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Are still you know, good amount of tickets left, so
please purchase that at prop hip hop dot com or
you can, you know, google Allegian Theater, frogdown, you know,
or Allegiant Theater, Los Angeles and it'll show you.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Where it is.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You click the show and yeah, man, see y'all there,
it's gonna be new straight line.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right, talk about some black ny quests.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Please tell me what's the distance? Did you ever have
to throw out the map? Did you lose.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Signal or time or two? The mini derailments?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Was it fun?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Was it scary?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Please tell me what's the distance? Did you even know
when you started that this was a lane? Is there
anything even that's called a lane? What's the first step?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Does it matter?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Because there was a time in the you know, late
fifties and the sixties where unapologetically black music, black culture,
black vibe, black.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Aesthetic was forefront and center.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You know, you have people like Nina Simone and you know,
James Brown, say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud.
You know, even Aretha Franklin, even though she was you know,
becoming more of a og around this time.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
This was black music for black people. And when you just.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Let black be black, the culture follows. And who wasn't
affected by James Brown? Who wasn't inspired by the music,
the culture, the style, the afros, the leathers, the.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Jackets, the slang.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's when you let black be black, It's like America
is just better for it. And then of course, you know,
the empire strikes back and pop music becomes pop music,
and you move into you know, the later times where
you know, disco, while created by black people, by in large,
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that wasn't a black genre per se. You know, it
was black music, but it wasn't for black people. Follow me,
you know. Then you move into the era of the
eighties and the birth of the boy band, you know,
which obviously has its origins and like temptations for tops,
but the boy bands that we know of the source
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material is new addition, you know, Bobby Brown, and you
could even ask new kids on the block who the
heights would say is the origin of the boy band?
The n Syncs of the World and stuff like that.
But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, even they
would say, it's new addition.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's what gave us.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The boys to Men's, the Jodases, the Shys, you know,
and then eventually the n syncs, the ninety degrees, the
o Town's shout out Trevor. I went to high school
with Trevor from Otown. This clearly is not music for us.
Oh it's music influenced by us, but it's not for us.
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I'm realizing now to be a child in the nineties
and be black, how much I took for granted, how
much work was done for us to be on screen
and in pop culture. This is NBA inside Stuff era.
This is this ain't different Strokes times anymore. No, this
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is the fresh Prince of bel Air. This is Amen
two two seven. This is Sister, Sister. This is the
era of John Singleton with boys in the hood, minister society,
loving basketball above the rim, juice. Hell, there was a
TV show called New York Undercover. This was black culture
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really put in forefront, our style, our slang in all
areas of entertainment and pop culture. Now, granted, there is
a thing called black Hollywood where there are stars for
which some of y'all don't even know who they are.
Now it's a little different, but people like Synnihilate Thing
and Nia Long, Lawrence Tate. You know, these are people
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who were for us, were the people we was hanging
on our posters. A few people poked through, like Boris
Koudro and Tyrese. This is a lot of hip hop,
a lot of R and B, but well, black people
make it soul music, and soul is very specific. It's
got all those influences, but it had not been updated.
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Soul music sounded like our parents' music. Then you may
have heard of somebody name, Oh, I don't know, Rikabadou,
Jill Scott, Shall, I keep going, Maxwell, Rafael Sadek music,
soul child.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You know, I just want to know.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Your name and maybe some time Angie Stone, India I
ree Hal, Lauren Hill, even Anthony Hamilton, in some ways,
none of which had the watershed effect, the grip on
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our souls, in our ears, and stole all of our
young ladies who not only was the center of what
black masculinity could look like in its physicality and that
in its sentimentality, but also in a display of unapologetically
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black mixing of hip hop, soul, street and lover boy.
Oh there was only one DiAngelo and we lost him
this week.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Tap in with me.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I never forget the first time I heard brown Sugar.
I believe it was on the Love Jones soundtrack one summer.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yo Brown Sugar shook. I'm singing it perfectly, ain't a.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
It had this swing drum to it that no one's
I don't we didn't hear R and B that sounded
like that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You know why?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Because Jay Dillar produced it. Yes, the Dila Dyla that
changed all of our lives.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
J Dilla.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He put together an album called Voodoo and one of
those albums and one of the songs on that album
had a video that was just de'angelo wast up, shirtless,
slow moving across his muscular body. Now if there, if
I would have found out that I was possibly queer,
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it would have been that video.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Just the demelonin the corn rows, just the slow singing.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
How does it feel?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was like for the J's to be able to
be soft a little bit, but not necessarily a gangster,
to be just from the streets. But but you're not
in Wa.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know what I mean. You can sing.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You ain't gotta be grimy Wu Tang underground. DiAngelo gave
us a green light. Oh man, I used to have
to not allow him to be shown. We couldn't go
to No, there's a few concerts you can't take your ladies.
You can't take it to know Maxwell concert. You can't
take it to know You can't take it a Knowe
D'Angelo concert Boyd'angelo gave us permission in my era to
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be black as hell, for us to like, you like,
listen a different world from you know, the spinoff from
the Cosby show that took place at an HBCU. It
took place at a black college. It gave us permission
to be that we saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It was.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
He was our James Brown, and he also was very
hard to understand too. He recently passed away from pancreatic cancer.
And there's something to be said about this black male
thing just suffering in silence. I'm speaking specifically at a
black I'm not saying everybody else don't do this. I'm
just saying that that's just something that's very normal in
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our community. That's how we lost Chadwick Chadwick Bosen. Did
you know he had cancer? I didn't either, Yeah, as
in the Black Panther, same thing. So di'angelo passed away
at fifty one. Another seminal work we got from him
was a song on Lauren Hill's Miseducation album called Nothing
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Even Matters. It was for our generation what it meant
to be grown and sexy, to love that melanated woman,
to put her first, to take care of that family,
and just to look fly doing it. Afros, Dreadlocks, corn
Rows like he made it, and this era of music,
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I would say, is why it's so accepted in just
modern pop culture now. I think in some ways we're
doing that with Dreadlocks, with like the yi Ns.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Now you know what I'm saying. But the point I'm
trying to make is.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He was in a lot of ways of Black Messiah,
and the gap between his album Voodoo and his album
also entitled Black Messiah was almost twenty years When he
came back, he was kind of like he wasn't the
how does it feel perfect specimen of manhood. He had
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put on a little weight, you know, for whatever reason,
but he was still one of the most beloved voices
in just music in blackness. He's the king of neo soul.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Man. He was truly our Black Messiah and he'll be
greatly missed.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So please go do your homework, man, go listen to
Voodoo Black Messiah and yeah, man, let's make sure that
music never dies because AI could never tapping in with
me