October 31, 2025 • 9 mins
We know that on November 1st, SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) benefits are ending. I just want to take a moment to express how many people you actually know and are close to, have in the past or are currently being helped by this program.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Calls media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, listen, forty million people, forty million, Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
What that means is.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You know these people. Forty million is way too many
for you to not know these people. And what I
mean by these people is people that have or are
currently up until tomorrow, receiving SNAP benefits. Snap benefits were
at one point called EPT, which before that we knew.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
As food stamps.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Now, when I was a kid, food stamps were a punchline.
It meant you was poored. You know, they used to
be a you know, joke on sitcoms or when we
was roasting each other. You know you're talking, Yeah, yeah, mama,
food stamps don't fool Well, a lot of us mama's
your grab mama's were.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
True.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We think, in a purposeful move by America and our
government and just the stage of capitalism we're in the
way to otherise and to villainize the poor has made us,
in so many ways ignore the obvious, right, what is
(01:22):
right in front of our faces, what is truly clear.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And present.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Not to gibble, but as the blame game is being
shifted back and forth over whose fault it is that
the government is shut down, what I want to do
today is not play the blame game. But I just
want to walk you through just some humanity here, all right,
tap me in with I remember when I was a kid,
(02:02):
you know, participating in the backing sessions, your mama sessions,
the roasting, the snaps to come back to all this
good stuff. I made these jokes about these food stamps.
I remember they were being presented on TV. I remember,
you know, they used to be like cash notes, but
and there were a different color so when you was
in the grocery line, you could tell that that person
(02:26):
was in front of you had you know, ebt or
at food stamps. Eventually they became like you know, debit cards, right,
But I remember.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Making one of them jokes.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then my grandma and not my grandmother, my dad
and mom told me in passing, you know your your
grandmother's on food stamps.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And I was like.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
What, And it just blew my mind, and then a
lot of memories came back. I remember going to the
grocery store with her. I remember her money being different colors.
I don't know why I didn't connect the dots. And
then it meant that once it's one of yours, you
got to recalibrate everything you think about what those things are, right,
and who these people are.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
My grandma, oh you know what. She was like, well,
well she can't work. And then he tried.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
They tried to explain to me, No, it's not that
people can't work, but that don't work. It's that some people,
yeah they're retired, they're too old, or you know, their
retirement is just not enough money, so you need to
extra to get over there.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And I was like, huh, I wonder if that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Was one of the beginnings of my radicalization moments that
I was like, oh, I have been hoodwinked. Did a
little more research, and I was like researchers in just
asked my parents questions. I was like, well, what did
my grandma do? Oh, she was a waitress. Okay, so
she was a waitress. I was like, oh, yeah, I know,
that's probably why she was service tables, why she ain't
(03:51):
got enough when she retired.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Turns out I found out maybe about a year ago,
her and her brother owned the diner. I had no
idea we owned businesses in our family. Yes, my uncle
Billy Ray, her brother, and my grandmother owned a diner
(04:15):
that is on the corner of Avalon It was on
the corner of Avalon and I think Manchester, or right
next to where Fremont High is. She used to own
a restaurant. I had no idea. So this woman wasn't
just a waitress, she was a business owner. She just retired.
(04:36):
Now that was my first inclination. As I got older,
you start noticing your friend's lunches that they're a little
different than other friends lunches. There's a certain flavor of cheese.
Turns out that was government cheese. I remember government jee's.
I just things that you don't realize are this close
(04:59):
to you. As the point of is taping. Hopefully this
will make sense to you. Once I got to college,
our parents were doing their best putting their kids through school.
Somehow another a lot of us graduated. Now I was
an art major, right. I remember when I got my
first apartment. I went to the store with one of
my home boys and he.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Tapped his card and I was like, what is that?
He was ask my EBT card. I was like what.
He goes, Oh, yeah, I'm I'm on government assistant. Boy.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I'm a poor college student. I only make this much.
I was like, how are you doing that? He goes dog,
I'm trying. Here's the three jobs I have, and I
lost two of them, so I was on unemployment and
until I can get to the next thing, I signed up.
You fell out the paperwork. It was a lot of
(05:45):
paperwork you can't be lying on. He was just explaining
the process. I never thought about it, from the process
of us being young people having to go through this.
And then finally, I remember when I started doing music
and touring full time, and now you start having kids.
You know, a lot of my friends who were maybe
doing music before decided they was going to switch into
(06:05):
like an entrepreneur sort of type beat. And you know
what happens is once you start a business, maybe you
go into the business loan and you know, you create
your LLCs and you learn and you follow, truly follow
the American dream. What you realize is they always tell
you that you're not going to be profitable. What that
means is you have no income. We got children, you know,
(06:31):
forty percent of the people of the forty two million
people receiving SNAP benefits are children.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Their parents work. Guys. It's dune dunk. It's not enough.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So a country with just the bare minimum of moral
fortitude is going to support them? Do you know the
percentage of Walmart's income that comes from Snap benefits the
percentage of our economy that actually just it? Don't don't
(07:09):
that make sense? You got to buy it somewhere. You're
going to buy food, fam, I don't know what y'all.
What y'all think this is?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You go buy food for your kids.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So anyway, back to these entrepreneurs. You read these, read these,
listen to them. These are people I know. These are
people I love people with in the coffee industry with
four locations.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
People whose businesses.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Have employees, and you out in the streets protesting like
I am with capitalism. Y'all mad at these CEOs, ain't you?
CEO is making twice as much and three times of
some places it's a forty two to one. They make
forty two times what their employees make. I know a
lot of entrepreneurs who haven't taken salaries for two years,
(08:05):
three years. The whole time they don't take a salary,
they make sure the business gets paid and the people
that work for them get paid.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well, how do they support their family? Snap? These are
the people. Okay, these are business owners.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I know a very successful fashion and jewelry brand them
fools had to do door dash. What I'm trying to
tell you is even right now, I got this podcast,
i got albums out, I got side work. I'm right
(08:43):
now in Utah because I have sidework for a merch company. Listen,
it's real out here, y'all. Forty million people means these
are your family friends. These are people whose kids go
to your kids school. This the person that just took
(09:06):
out the trash at the store, just the people bagging
your groceries. These are not other people. They are us.
So if you want to call it the Schumann Schumer
shut down, or you can call it whatever you want,
you know what it is. It's inhumane. Now on my Instagram,
I've been in social media and in the circles I
(09:29):
work in. It's a lot of people I know that
are doing their best to provide food for people who
are about to lose their benefits. But at the end
of the day, I just want this to set in
that as much as we was in the streets protesting
that Israel was using hunger as a weapon, we need
to go and look in the mirror, tap in with me.
Calls media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, listen, forty million people, forty million, Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
What that means is.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You know these people. Forty million is way too many
for you to not know these people. And what I
mean by these people is people that have or are
currently up until tomorrow, receiving SNAP benefits. Snap benefits were
at one point called EPT, which before that we knew.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
As food stamps.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Now, when I was a kid, food stamps were a punchline.
It meant you was poored. You know, they used to
be a you know, joke on sitcoms or when we
was roasting each other. You know you're talking, Yeah, yeah, mama,
food stamps don't fool Well, a lot of us mama's
your grab mama's were.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
True.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We think, in a purposeful move by America and our
government and just the stage of capitalism we're in the
way to otherise and to villainize the poor has made us,
in so many ways ignore the obvious, right, what is
(01:22):
right in front of our faces, what is truly clear.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And present.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Not to gibble, but as the blame game is being
shifted back and forth over whose fault it is that
the government is shut down, what I want to do
today is not play the blame game. But I just
want to walk you through just some humanity here, all right,
tap me in with I remember when I was a kid,
(02:02):
you know, participating in the backing sessions, your mama sessions,
the roasting, the snaps to come back to all this
good stuff. I made these jokes about these food stamps.
I remember they were being presented on TV. I remember,
you know, they used to be like cash notes, but
and there were a different color so when you was
in the grocery line, you could tell that that person
(02:26):
was in front of you had you know, ebt or
at food stamps. Eventually they became like you know, debit cards, right,
But I remember.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Making one of them jokes.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then my grandma and not my grandmother, my dad
and mom told me in passing, you know your your
grandmother's on food stamps.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And I was like.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
What, And it just blew my mind, and then a
lot of memories came back. I remember going to the
grocery store with her. I remember her money being different colors.
I don't know why I didn't connect the dots. And
then it meant that once it's one of yours, you
got to recalibrate everything you think about what those things are, right,
and who these people are.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
My grandma, oh you know what. She was like, well,
well she can't work. And then he tried.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
They tried to explain to me, No, it's not that
people can't work, but that don't work. It's that some people,
yeah they're retired, they're too old, or you know, their
retirement is just not enough money, so you need to
extra to get over there.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And I was like, huh, I wonder if that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Was one of the beginnings of my radicalization moments that
I was like, oh, I have been hoodwinked. Did a
little more research, and I was like researchers in just
asked my parents questions. I was like, well, what did
my grandma do? Oh, she was a waitress. Okay, so
she was a waitress. I was like, oh, yeah, I know,
that's probably why she was service tables, why she ain't
(03:51):
got enough when she retired.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Turns out I found out maybe about a year ago,
her and her brother owned the diner. I had no
idea we owned businesses in our family. Yes, my uncle
Billy Ray, her brother, and my grandmother owned a diner
(04:15):
that is on the corner of Avalon It was on
the corner of Avalon and I think Manchester, or right
next to where Fremont High is. She used to own
a restaurant. I had no idea. So this woman wasn't
just a waitress, she was a business owner. She just retired.
(04:36):
Now that was my first inclination. As I got older,
you start noticing your friend's lunches that they're a little
different than other friends lunches. There's a certain flavor of cheese.
Turns out that was government cheese. I remember government jee's.
I just things that you don't realize are this close
(04:59):
to you. As the point of is taping. Hopefully this
will make sense to you. Once I got to college,
our parents were doing their best putting their kids through school.
Somehow another a lot of us graduated. Now I was
an art major, right. I remember when I got my
first apartment. I went to the store with one of
my home boys and he.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Tapped his card and I was like, what is that?
He was ask my EBT card. I was like what.
He goes, Oh, yeah, I'm I'm on government assistant. Boy.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I'm a poor college student. I only make this much.
I was like, how are you doing that? He goes dog,
I'm trying. Here's the three jobs I have, and I
lost two of them, so I was on unemployment and
until I can get to the next thing, I signed up.
You fell out the paperwork. It was a lot of
(05:45):
paperwork you can't be lying on. He was just explaining
the process. I never thought about it, from the process
of us being young people having to go through this.
And then finally, I remember when I started doing music
and touring full time, and now you start having kids.
You know, a lot of my friends who were maybe
doing music before decided they was going to switch into
(06:05):
like an entrepreneur sort of type beat. And you know
what happens is once you start a business, maybe you
go into the business loan and you know, you create
your LLCs and you learn and you follow, truly follow
the American dream. What you realize is they always tell
you that you're not going to be profitable. What that
means is you have no income. We got children, you know,
(06:31):
forty percent of the people of the forty two million
people receiving SNAP benefits are children.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Their parents work. Guys. It's dune dunk. It's not enough.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So a country with just the bare minimum of moral
fortitude is going to support them? Do you know the
percentage of Walmart's income that comes from Snap benefits the
percentage of our economy that actually just it? Don't don't
(07:09):
that make sense? You got to buy it somewhere. You're
going to buy food, fam, I don't know what y'all.
What y'all think this is?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You go buy food for your kids.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So anyway, back to these entrepreneurs. You read these, read these,
listen to them. These are people I know. These are
people I love people with in the coffee industry with
four locations.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
People whose businesses.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Have employees, and you out in the streets protesting like
I am with capitalism. Y'all mad at these CEOs, ain't you?
CEO is making twice as much and three times of
some places it's a forty two to one. They make
forty two times what their employees make. I know a
lot of entrepreneurs who haven't taken salaries for two years,
(08:05):
three years. The whole time they don't take a salary,
they make sure the business gets paid and the people
that work for them get paid.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well, how do they support their family? Snap? These are
the people. Okay, these are business owners.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I know a very successful fashion and jewelry brand them
fools had to do door dash. What I'm trying to
tell you is even right now, I got this podcast,
i got albums out, I got side work. I'm right
(08:43):
now in Utah because I have sidework for a merch company. Listen,
it's real out here, y'all. Forty million people means these
are your family friends. These are people whose kids go
to your kids school. This the person that just took
(09:06):
out the trash at the store, just the people bagging
your groceries. These are not other people. They are us.
So if you want to call it the Schumann Schumer
shut down, or you can call it whatever you want,
you know what it is. It's inhumane. Now on my Instagram,
I've been in social media and in the circles I
(09:29):
work in. It's a lot of people I know that
are doing their best to provide food for people who
are about to lose their benefits. But at the end
of the day, I just want this to set in
that as much as we was in the streets protesting
that Israel was using hunger as a weapon, we need
to go and look in the mirror, tap in with me.
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