May 30, 2025 • 14 mins
Last week, two Israeli embassy staffers were murdered in front of the Capital Jewish Museum in Washington, DC. The shooter said he "did it for Gaza, for Palestine," proving yet again that state sponsored violence 100% creates radicalization.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I did it for Palestine. I did it for Gaza.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
As you may know, last week, Elias Rodriguez, thirty one
years old, shout at Free Palestine as he was arrested
after popping two young workers at the Israeli consulate last week,
and the couple was about to be engaged. They were
(00:32):
involved in working again in the Israeli Consulate while leaving
the Jewish Museum. Now, conventional knowledge and basic common sense
would say, these acts are indefensible, and I'm not here
to defend them. I'm here to echo doctor King. So
(00:53):
tapping with me today, I want to talk about radicalization,
and I want to talk about it in a very
careful way, because these events like this oftentimes become not
(01:21):
so much a product of what happened, but a product
of how you view what happened, and then we miss
actually what's really going on here. This is one of
those very few yes and moments. Yes, Sarah and Yarin
were taken from us in cold blood. That they are
(01:41):
two young people who have not directly pulled any particular trigger,
who just happened to be a part of a community,
and who knows what their hearts and minds felt about
the barrage of violence put on by their community. Who
knows if there's truly any anti Semitism in the heart
(02:05):
of Elias Rodriguez, who knows? And six figures worth of
children who also have not pulled any particular trigger, families
being currently purposefully starved. See I think it's very important
to say that Gaza is not facing starvation. Gaza is
(02:25):
being starved. And as we spoke of earlier this week
on the Wednesday show, the Narcissists reveals their cards. This
is an ethnic cleansing. This is an ethnic cleansing. This
is a forcible removal. Either die or go somewhere else.
This is and Hamas is your cover. This, my friends,
(02:47):
my folks, my camp folk, is why you need research
and experts, because the research and the experts have consistently
proven what all of our I see and if you
are anywhere within a ten mile radius of my age
experienced with your own eyes. The fact is, state sponsored
(03:08):
violence creates radicalization, the feelings of hopelessness when the balance
of power is so askewed, the depth of despair and destruction.
Throw a rock anywhere in the Middle East at any
(03:30):
organized what we in the West call terrorist groups. Now
I'm not even just gonna say the West, because people
who live in those environments would say the same thing.
These terrorists were not always that. These were people who
are watching either their own government or the homies of
(03:51):
the government wipe out any possibility for their future.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What choice would anyone have?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Is that not?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean what we call militia and freedom fighters, That's
the name we called them when they American. I bring
up Doctor King because Doctor King, which I've said many
times and I just want to remind you of when
talking about the Watts riots, he described Watts as a
powder keg. You can only beat on people for so
(04:22):
long it is going to turn them into an insurgent force.
Inevitably all over the planet. This continues to happen. You
either turn the neutral citizens who actually see these insurgents
as just another gang. When I see the army roll
(04:44):
in here and just wipe out entire villages, and then
I see this insurgent force say something like, do you
want them to stop? Will let us fight them? I'd like,
you are going you turn me into their hands. These
are the predictions of almost every humanitarian organization since October seventh.
(05:05):
They were trying to tell Israel, be careful how you respond.
Less you turn your allies into enemies, less you multiply
the forces of Hamas. But don't nobody listen to people
that are actually outside help and do that. Now this
might sound like victim blame me, but it's really not,
(05:26):
because again, I don't know who Sarah and Yarn is.
We don't know the types of things that they're working on,
or at least I don't know. But that's not the
point I'm trying to give you. The point I'm trying
to give you is radicalization plays on different levels.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Here.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
We're not talking about logic. We're talking about a hijacked amygdala.
We're talking about fight or flight. We're talking about the
very sense of identity of emotions. See, it really helps
me by being a part of this network here for
me to really understand even how radicalized far right gets to.
(06:00):
Where they get to whether true or not they feel
an existential threat, your prefrontal cortex gets turned off in
a way that some might call insanity but others might
just call survival. Lastly, I'd like to recommend a book.
It's called Hate in the Homeland. It's written by Cynthia
Miller Idris. Now you might recognize the last name Idris
(06:22):
because we interviewed Shamo Idres, who is the CEO of
Search for Common Ground. So this is a power couple
in a way that none of y'all could even imagine.
She is the four absolute expert in far right radical
terrorism in Western countries. She is the person who testified
(06:45):
in front of our government that showed the research to
prove that the biggest threat of terrorism in America is
from far right extremists. And she walks you through their
recruiting process us, what's going on emotionally, the stories they
believe about themselves, and the existential threat that they experience. Now,
(07:08):
the difference between these people in this book and the
situations we talk about is, in a lot of ways,
these far rights people's genocide is imagined. The citizens of Gaza,
that's not imagined. That's really happening, and it's in front
of the world's eyes. My hope would be that our
hope is that violence stops, period, whether it's action or reaction.
(07:32):
I would hope that we would hope it would all end.
But my request to man, this is a hard request,
but I feel like from one marginalized people group to another.
I feel like I'm standing on pretty solid ground to
address this. It is deeply heinous and incredibly sinister to
(07:58):
watch the sources of our oppression, people who cause it,
use our oppression and weaponize it for their own game.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And this is what seems to.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Be clearly happening with anti Semitism, because anti Semitism is
in fact real, some people just be hating Jews.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
While this might not be a one to one because
I can't ever imagine the government actually using anti blackness
for their own game because they just really don't like us,
but I can say I can't tell you how deeply
grieved and frustrated I feel when I am witnessing in
my own eyes a person of color, specifically a black person,
(08:48):
being used to further the gains of power by our
oppressive state.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What of canvas.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
This may seem like a silly example, but I would
say Drake is one of those. Why we felt so
deeply about him not being like us was his one
line that he thought was a bar when he said, Kendrick,
you rap like you trying to free the slaves, Because
what that sounds like is you want to send chains
(09:23):
to respond to a battle rap with a lawsuit against
another black man while we were trying to just have
a sporting.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Event that you started.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
No less is in some ways, you as a black
man going to the Massa and saying you need to
punish this other black man because he not treated me fairly.
Excuse me, sir, do you understand how oppression works? You
might score a win this time. It was crazy about
(09:58):
that particular situation. As Massa said, man, shut your ass up.
Boyd you benefit from this too, So close your mouth.
But there might be a short term win right now
with the United States government using anti Semitism as a
cover for this fascist takeover.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That they're doing.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
You might get some short term wins right now. But
I could tell you as a person of color, I
could tell you as a black man, I could tell you,
as a person that's part of the African diaspora.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
That's short money.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
These oppressive states always go back to who they always are.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
These people do not love you.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So while I mourn the loss of those two young souls,
I can do that and also be absolutely outraged by
the actions of the Nation of Israel.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And you should too. It's not that complicated.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But as a student of history, as a hood politician,
that I hope y'all all are. If y'all't know anything,
you should notice here's exhibit Q. State sponsored violence creates terrorism.
Just tap in with me, actually tap into this new
song that's coming out on my new record that's kind
of around the idea of how a person becomes radicalized,
(11:16):
which is going on in Syria right now, literally literally
right now. Syria has in detention centers the children and
families of the Isis folks that they captured and as
Syria changed their regime, and the longer than.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Kids staying there, watch all right.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
On me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
There was blood on the streets, brains on the side, Dwark,
body talks, the tideless phone as we speak, the bounce
stop as we speak, the body count ride because each
week blood on the streets, brains on the side, dwalk
the inside. The infants are right it off beat.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
How you not losing sleep? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Man?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
How you not cynical seeing these sights? Your bread life
must be pitiful.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Conscience broken.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's clear as crystal when a government official autographs a missile,
your whole soul's a sham with no right to would spam.
Your pro life is a scam, and only rubber remains
in the perthplace of son of man, and everlasting famine
was made at your hand. Blood on the streets, brains
on the side, your body parts of toddlers ball as
we speak, the bombs drop as we speak.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, there is no R side. That's in a R tide.
What's wrong with your eyes? What happened?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Signed?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You will kill your profits? The usls, you rockets, the
blood that fills our pockets while you lying.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The whole world is watching them.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
College kids are marching and the bombs you drop in
the guarantees that they will never trust you, they will
never love and they were gods trying to bring.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You to your hoss.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Blood on the streets, brains on the side, Yeah, body
parts of tideless ball as we speak, The bombs drop
as we speak, and the body cow raises each week.
Get blood on the streets, brains on the side, yelping,
insides of infants are right at our feet, how y'all?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And not losing sleeps?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
What do you think like.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You think works?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Boll What do you think it's like?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
This full of.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Tripness and people wanting to crucifire life.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
The blood on the streets brings on the side speed,
All media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I did it for Palestine. I did it for Gaza.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
As you may know, last week, Elias Rodriguez, thirty one
years old, shout at Free Palestine as he was arrested
after popping two young workers at the Israeli consulate last week,
and the couple was about to be engaged. They were
(00:32):
involved in working again in the Israeli Consulate while leaving
the Jewish Museum. Now, conventional knowledge and basic common sense
would say, these acts are indefensible, and I'm not here
to defend them. I'm here to echo doctor King. So
(00:53):
tapping with me today, I want to talk about radicalization,
and I want to talk about it in a very
careful way, because these events like this oftentimes become not
(01:21):
so much a product of what happened, but a product
of how you view what happened, and then we miss
actually what's really going on here. This is one of
those very few yes and moments. Yes, Sarah and Yarin
were taken from us in cold blood. That they are
(01:41):
two young people who have not directly pulled any particular trigger,
who just happened to be a part of a community,
and who knows what their hearts and minds felt about
the barrage of violence put on by their community. Who
knows if there's truly any anti Semitism in the heart
(02:05):
of Elias Rodriguez, who knows? And six figures worth of
children who also have not pulled any particular trigger, families
being currently purposefully starved. See I think it's very important
to say that Gaza is not facing starvation. Gaza is
(02:25):
being starved. And as we spoke of earlier this week
on the Wednesday show, the Narcissists reveals their cards. This
is an ethnic cleansing. This is an ethnic cleansing. This
is a forcible removal. Either die or go somewhere else.
This is and Hamas is your cover. This, my friends,
(02:47):
my folks, my camp folk, is why you need research
and experts, because the research and the experts have consistently
proven what all of our I see and if you
are anywhere within a ten mile radius of my age
experienced with your own eyes. The fact is, state sponsored
(03:08):
violence creates radicalization, the feelings of hopelessness when the balance
of power is so askewed, the depth of despair and destruction.
Throw a rock anywhere in the Middle East at any
(03:30):
organized what we in the West call terrorist groups. Now
I'm not even just gonna say the West, because people
who live in those environments would say the same thing.
These terrorists were not always that. These were people who
are watching either their own government or the homies of
(03:51):
the government wipe out any possibility for their future.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What choice would anyone have?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Is that not?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean what we call militia and freedom fighters, That's
the name we called them when they American. I bring
up Doctor King because Doctor King, which I've said many
times and I just want to remind you of when
talking about the Watts riots, he described Watts as a
powder keg. You can only beat on people for so
(04:22):
long it is going to turn them into an insurgent force.
Inevitably all over the planet. This continues to happen. You
either turn the neutral citizens who actually see these insurgents
as just another gang. When I see the army roll
(04:44):
in here and just wipe out entire villages, and then
I see this insurgent force say something like, do you
want them to stop? Will let us fight them? I'd like,
you are going you turn me into their hands. These
are the predictions of almost every humanitarian organization since October seventh.
(05:05):
They were trying to tell Israel, be careful how you respond.
Less you turn your allies into enemies, less you multiply
the forces of Hamas. But don't nobody listen to people
that are actually outside help and do that. Now this
might sound like victim blame me, but it's really not,
(05:26):
because again, I don't know who Sarah and Yarn is.
We don't know the types of things that they're working on,
or at least I don't know. But that's not the
point I'm trying to give you. The point I'm trying
to give you is radicalization plays on different levels.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Here.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
We're not talking about logic. We're talking about a hijacked amygdala.
We're talking about fight or flight. We're talking about the
very sense of identity of emotions. See, it really helps
me by being a part of this network here for
me to really understand even how radicalized far right gets to.
(06:00):
Where they get to whether true or not they feel
an existential threat, your prefrontal cortex gets turned off in
a way that some might call insanity but others might
just call survival. Lastly, I'd like to recommend a book.
It's called Hate in the Homeland. It's written by Cynthia
Miller Idris. Now you might recognize the last name Idris
(06:22):
because we interviewed Shamo Idres, who is the CEO of
Search for Common Ground. So this is a power couple
in a way that none of y'all could even imagine.
She is the four absolute expert in far right radical
terrorism in Western countries. She is the person who testified
(06:45):
in front of our government that showed the research to
prove that the biggest threat of terrorism in America is
from far right extremists. And she walks you through their
recruiting process us, what's going on emotionally, the stories they
believe about themselves, and the existential threat that they experience. Now,
(07:08):
the difference between these people in this book and the
situations we talk about is, in a lot of ways,
these far rights people's genocide is imagined. The citizens of Gaza,
that's not imagined. That's really happening, and it's in front
of the world's eyes. My hope would be that our
hope is that violence stops, period, whether it's action or reaction.
(07:32):
I would hope that we would hope it would all end.
But my request to man, this is a hard request,
but I feel like from one marginalized people group to another.
I feel like I'm standing on pretty solid ground to
address this. It is deeply heinous and incredibly sinister to
(07:58):
watch the sources of our oppression, people who cause it,
use our oppression and weaponize it for their own game.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And this is what seems to.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Be clearly happening with anti Semitism, because anti Semitism is
in fact real, some people just be hating Jews.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
While this might not be a one to one because
I can't ever imagine the government actually using anti blackness
for their own game because they just really don't like us,
but I can say I can't tell you how deeply
grieved and frustrated I feel when I am witnessing in
my own eyes a person of color, specifically a black person,
(08:48):
being used to further the gains of power by our
oppressive state.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What of canvas.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
This may seem like a silly example, but I would
say Drake is one of those. Why we felt so
deeply about him not being like us was his one
line that he thought was a bar when he said, Kendrick,
you rap like you trying to free the slaves, Because
what that sounds like is you want to send chains
(09:23):
to respond to a battle rap with a lawsuit against
another black man while we were trying to just have
a sporting.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Event that you started.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
No less is in some ways, you as a black
man going to the Massa and saying you need to
punish this other black man because he not treated me fairly.
Excuse me, sir, do you understand how oppression works? You
might score a win this time. It was crazy about
(09:58):
that particular situation. As Massa said, man, shut your ass up.
Boyd you benefit from this too, So close your mouth.
But there might be a short term win right now
with the United States government using anti Semitism as a
cover for this fascist takeover.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That they're doing.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
You might get some short term wins right now. But
I could tell you as a person of color, I
could tell you as a black man, I could tell you,
as a person that's part of the African diaspora.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
That's short money.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
These oppressive states always go back to who they always are.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
These people do not love you.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So while I mourn the loss of those two young souls,
I can do that and also be absolutely outraged by
the actions of the Nation of Israel.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And you should too. It's not that complicated.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But as a student of history, as a hood politician,
that I hope y'all all are. If y'all't know anything,
you should notice here's exhibit Q. State sponsored violence creates terrorism.
Just tap in with me, actually tap into this new
song that's coming out on my new record that's kind
of around the idea of how a person becomes radicalized,
(11:16):
which is going on in Syria right now, literally literally
right now. Syria has in detention centers the children and
families of the Isis folks that they captured and as
Syria changed their regime, and the longer than.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Kids staying there, watch all right.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
On me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
There was blood on the streets, brains on the side, Dwark,
body talks, the tideless phone as we speak, the bounce
stop as we speak, the body count ride because each
week blood on the streets, brains on the side, dwalk
the inside. The infants are right it off beat.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
How you not losing sleep? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Man?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
How you not cynical seeing these sights? Your bread life
must be pitiful.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Conscience broken.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's clear as crystal when a government official autographs a missile,
your whole soul's a sham with no right to would spam.
Your pro life is a scam, and only rubber remains
in the perthplace of son of man, and everlasting famine
was made at your hand. Blood on the streets, brains
on the side, your body parts of toddlers ball as
we speak, the bombs drop as we speak.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, there is no R side. That's in a R tide.
What's wrong with your eyes? What happened?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Signed?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You will kill your profits? The usls, you rockets, the
blood that fills our pockets while you lying.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The whole world is watching them.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
College kids are marching and the bombs you drop in
the guarantees that they will never trust you, they will
never love and they were gods trying to bring.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You to your hoss.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Blood on the streets, brains on the side, Yeah, body
parts of tideless ball as we speak, The bombs drop
as we speak, and the body cow raises each week.
Get blood on the streets, brains on the side, yelping,
insides of infants are right at our feet, how y'all?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And not losing sleeps?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
What do you think like.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You think works?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Boll What do you think it's like?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
This full of.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Tripness and people wanting to crucifire life.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
The blood on the streets brings on the side speed,
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