September 3, 2025 • 41 mins
On Jay-Z's birthday, Cali has to decide if it's gonna pass the gerrymandering act or nah. Do we break our code this one time or is it because of our code we have to do this? https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/ror/154day-presprim-2024/historical-reg-stats.pdf
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
As media, we saw a little gangbanger was cracking full
he was squabbing or what fucking lambs a square up lamp, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Look, that's the question.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
To slap the taste out of somebody's mouth or not
to slap the taste out of somebody's mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That is the question.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Welcome to hood politics another to live and die in
la uh. We have the timeless dilemma in whatever context
you want to give of.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Remember you remember a few years ago the question of
do you punch a Nazi or not?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And the two sides of the story was like, you know, well,
if you punch a Nazi, that's what they want. It
makes you no different, Right, so you're supposed to take
the high road. Right, when they go low, we go
hi the Michelle Obama speech.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Then the other side of that is like when they
go low, we squabble up. Nigga, I go lower. When
they go low, I sweep the leg I don't make
the rules. When you are put in an impossible position,
your code becomes irrelevant. Like sometimes that's the position and
(01:38):
the question is do you stick with it or not?
You know, these are Martin and Malcolm questions, right, who
were not as separate on their beliefs as people would
like them to believe. Although he believed in nonviolence, that
don't mean he ain't gonna slap the shit out of
you if he needs to. Right, But that's the question,
(01:59):
the question of when someone is reckless and only understands
messiness or violence, do you, as our parents used to say,
don't stoop to their level? Right when they clap, do
you clap back? Or do you try to be the
(02:19):
quote unquote bigger person? Now, sometimes the bigger person is
a complicated concept. One of the again proverbial examples of
this is like hiding Jewish families from the Nazis?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Right do you lie?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Do you hide them and lie because it was a
law and nigga, that's not a question of course you do, right?
But does that put your own family in danger by
doing that?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But that's obviously the right question. You break the law there,
But sometimes it's not so obvious.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Sometimes in.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
A situation like I said, where maybe you don't like
to function, maybe your code is one that says to
handle this situation means I need to do something against
my own code.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The question is do you trust the code?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Do you trust the process, Continue to maintain your own integrity.
Be the person of circumspect, Be the person that you
know you want to be so that you can sleep
at night. Or do you say you know what the
greater good in here is to beat your ass?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I mean that's the question facing California on November fourth,
to squabble or not to squabble, the question of jerry
mandering in California?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Who politics?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Y'all?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
All right? Listen?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Metaphors not being perfect as they can be, comparison is
not being perfect as they can be, but they're notwithstanding that,
there are times where fighting is your only option, right
if we're using your again understanding of like the dark
Cornerstone premise that if you understand the hood, you understand politics.
(04:26):
There are times that fighting is just not is unavoidable.
There are times when you're dealing with a bully. Are
you dealing with a hood situation where it's like, you know,
you don't I can't call the cops. The cops don't help,
They're just another problem. You not listen in a reason,
the power dynamic between us two is one that is insurmountable.
(04:50):
Like there are times where the power dynamic is insurmountable.
I can think of three scenarios in my coming up
age where the power dynamic was not surmountable. This was
I mean, I think of him in every area I
lived in the Inland Empire. When I was out there,
you know, walking home from school, I'm I'm outnumbered.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It was like this was one of some of it
had like a lot of racial tension because like it
wasn't a lot of us out there in area called
the San gabol Valley.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Where if you know me, you know where I I
a lot of people I know personally, you know, listen
to the show, know where I grew up in Lapenteve, Linda.
And there were times where again the power dynamic made
it impossible. There's I can't be the bigger person, and
I also I can't square up with this person. It's
(05:44):
not it's not a this isn't a fair This isn't
a fair one. Like the New Yorkers say, man, go
catch a fair one. It's not fair. Even if it's
one on one, it's not fair. We can't go head up,
you know what I'm saying, Like this is your hood.
So even if even if I do throw right now
to this dude, is I have to I'm gonna be
running home for the rest of my days. There's no
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there is no fair ones. Right if I try to
take my bike to you're going to steal my bike, Like,
there's no there's no fair ones, even if I could
think of one. In the Inland Empire where I I
didn't fear him. I feared his big brothers. Where I
was like many times I was like, I'm gonna throw
(06:31):
you over this table.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
But I feared his brothers.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
So even if we fought, it's and and and he
faded me, faded me. But if we fought and I
slapped the taste out of his mouth and won, he's
got two.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Brothers that have to like that's just it's just the reality.
The two brothers were older than us.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You have to come help your little brother, even if
you think your little brother is wrong. And most of
the time it was because this dude had a mouth,
Like most of the time it was like he was
probably wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You've put me in a situation, And sometimes I can
joke my way out of it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I hope you can see where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
There are times that, like, I've been able to joke
my way out of it, so I didn't have to fight,
right I had to use mockery. I had to use
the tools that were available to me because I was
in a situation that required me to move in a
way that I don't necessarily move right now. On the
(07:31):
other hand, there's also the possibility that well, I've actually
I'm lying to myself about this code, that this mockery
is fighting this, that's who I really am, and I
do stand to gain a lot, whether it's reputation, whether
it's the ladies, whatever the case may be. I stand
(07:53):
to gain a lot because I actually I've been itching
to beat the shit out of you.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I say that, Oh, I'm the bigger person.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I say that like like that again back to the
Nazi thing, where it's like, oh, you know, you want to,
you want to, you want to beat the brakes off him,
but you're scared, y'all say it. So the question is
about the vote that California has to do over whether
(08:25):
we Jerrymander or not. So today a little bit of
background what we have done in Cali. Way back to
when during the governator time and what's really at stake here?
And is it worth it now? Spoiler alert, I don't
have an answer. I actually don't know what I'm a vote.
(08:46):
I know I still have time, but this question is
only a California question. Right now, y'all got next? Wherever
you are, you got next? Because we're dealing with a
situation where the person that we're dealing with moves differently
than the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
When somebody you're dealing with somebody that don't, they play
by a different set of rules. Sometimes you get into
a position where these are just the cards we were dealt.
I have to play the cards I was dealt, even
if I don't even want to play this game in
the first place. So I'm gonna try to make a
case for and against and look, saw you player, I
(09:36):
can't tell you what to do, all right? All ready,
here we go. So a couple of weeks ago, we
(10:13):
did an episode on jerrymandering what it means in the
history of it, right.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You can refer back to that, But essentially, it's the
drawing of your districts. If you don't know what your
district is that's the area for which your state representative
in the legislative branch.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Goes, So you're voting for that, right.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Every state has two senators, and then in your House
of Representative, it depends on the amount of districts that
are in your state. Right now, when you are running
for a legislative position, right, you're running to be the
representative for.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
This particular district.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Now, the most logical way to think of a district
is people who have shared interests because they live in
a shared space, right, So they should obviously be regional, right,
because we regionally right. A lot of times region relates
pretty close to socioeconomic not always because especially places like Irvine,
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if you're down to La like or certain parts of
Los Angeles where one side of the street are mansions,
the others are mansions that have been converted to apartments, right,
because the people that live across the street are the
living servants, the gardeners, the people that serve the houses
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across the street. So there is an extreme wealth gap
literally across the street, right. Or there's people because we
live in a commuting town where you live hours away
from where you work, which is in a different place
than where your kids go to school, right, So we
just have a spread out community. So even though it
(12:02):
might logically seem like geographic districting makes the most sense
because we use the same stop light, these the same stores.
We you know, were dealing with the same traffic, taxes, schools.
There's we just this is just our experience, right. Sometimes
it might become a little more complicated to that, So
(12:23):
drawing district lines can get a little complicated. But when
you draw district lines and you're running for office, obviously
you want the easiest route to success. Right. Hopefully this
is a place that you care about, but it's probably
(12:46):
a place you just desire power for. Right now, in
a perfect world, people who are directly affected by the
decisions made and the actions with in a particular district
are the ones that are running for office. So that
you represent the needs and the desires of the people
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that live in that district. That's what it's supposed to be, right,
And some of those needs and desires might be in conflict.
That makes sense, right, So what you do You need
to run people for office that represent the multiplicity of
ideas and needs, and then you make the best case
for how you can represent us the best. Some of
y'all might have different political positions, may have different solutions
(13:29):
and answers, and may come from different partisan sections. That's great, compete, right,
make your case, show how you care, show your ideas,
show us what it is that would help us understand
right that you are going to represent our best interests.
(13:49):
But that sounds hard, right if you run of office.
I ain't trying to do all that.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I just want to win. Well, how could I win?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
If I make the districts, the shape and the population
of the districts be just looped around the people that
I know want me to win, then I don't have
to compete with nobody. So I'm gonna draw this amorphous.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Weird circle because I know everybody inside of this already
agrees with me. It is thatshit bonkers and at the
same time so normal that the politician running for office
gets to draw the district boundaries.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That makes that is clearly a foul. That's clearly a violation,
right Like that is guys, disenfranchisement. You have just that.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You don't get to choose your elected official. Your elected
official chooses you. I'm a find the people that I
already know we won't me, and I'm gonna make them
a district and then tell them that you're voting for me,
that I need Joe vote.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It is absurd, but that's what gerrymandering is. It's a
way to like make sure that out went.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's the dark side of it. Now, the good side
of it is, sometimes demographics change. Sometimes the borders do change,
sometimes because of migration in its most international sense, and
other times just people moving, cities changing, school's changing, the
desires changes. The demographics change, right, and sometimes with that right,
(15:35):
the district boundary kind of just doesn't It kind of
doesn't make sense anymore because the people inside of this
space couldn't be more different. Right in the graph for Africa,
I think I used this in the first thing. It's
like the colonizer came in and just drew lines on
the map and called one place one country and the
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other place the other country. The lines are arbitrary and absurd,
driven through like neighborhoods. All of a sudden, my granddaddy,
who lives across the street is living in a different
country now because somebody drew a line right there. That
is absurd, right, But other times, it might be, you know,
to use a.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
More of a modern example, a new school was built, right,
a new middle school was built, which brought an influx
of younger families into this place that maybe was a
multi generational area which was mostly old people. Now the
demographics have changed, so maybe these district borders kind of
(16:40):
don't make sense, so maybe we should redraw them, right,
but who gets to decide that? Should the politician be
able to decide that? To me, that seems absurd, but
it's the world we end now. When the governator came,
this was Arnold Swarzenegger in two thousand and eight. He
was the one that was like a Republican. He was like,
(17:02):
this seems ridiculous that we should be able to draw
our own districts. Don't you think there should be some
sort of bipartisan independent person who not running for office
that don't get to choose the rules, that don't that
gets to choose that don't make sense to y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So that's what he did. He was like, Okay, let's
do that. Let's let.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
An independent person who is just paid to look at
this objectively, not by us, right, we don't do it
they do it. They look at what's going on in
the country or in the state and they say, this
makes more sense than this. Now, when you do that,
that means that it goes back to that competitive districts
(17:45):
And that's what we've had in California for the last
ten to twenty years since two thousand and eight, were
districts set by an independent board who looked at what
was actually happening here and was like, no, no, no,
y'all don't get choose it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
We get to choose it, right. And when you do that,
that means you have a.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Diversity of candidates running because you just don't get to
choose your own district to where you could just like
moon walk right into it. You don't get to TUTSI,
you know, TUTSI step all the way into the office
without no problems. No, like it's competitive, you know what
I'm saying. So that means you got to come with
(18:25):
your a game. You can't just like you can't just
phone it in because if you just phone it in,
that is kind of like it's kind of like disenfranchisement.
Right now, incomes Trump, who said the quiet part out
loud with Texas. He was like, look, I'm finna lose this,
(18:45):
I'm finna lose the mid term. So it still bonkers
to me that he's trying to say that there's a
deep state and they a cabal of people working against him.
When you when he is the institution, you are, you run,
you run all branches, You're you're the majority in every
branch of government.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Howard, what govern what government? Deep state?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You are it?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But anyway, he was like, look, we're finna lose, so
let's just get more districts. How do I do that?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He's like, well, it's simple. We just draw the district
maps again and then we just get four other seats.
We draw it in a way that we get the seats.
Like so, he you just gonna say it, right, So
that's what he did. That's what he did in Texas
and Texas bend Over Soldier did exactly what they wanted
him to do, right, drudis map that is absurd. Despite
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all of the pushback from the state, they just made it.
It's absurd, but they're able to do it. California Governor
Newsom says, wait man, Waitman, Wayman, Wayman, Wayman, Wayman, Wayman, Wayman.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Women.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
We can't just let this slide. So if they gonna redistrict,
then we should redistrict. If they buss, we bus right,
that's not fair because they're cheating. But they found a
way to cheat. That's not cheating. Does that make sense
(20:12):
because you can because the state can make their own laws.
But we already decided in California that's against the code.
We know that that's shady. We know that that's the
wrong thing to do. Also, can we just let him
do this? Or when we kind of can't, just let him?
(20:33):
Somebody cut in front of the line on at an
amusement park. He just you know, like you've a been
to a music park and somebody just like excuse me,
excuse me, excuse me, and they just walk into the front.
That's because nobody stopped him. Somebody could be like no, no, no, no,
you need to wait here, and they're like, well, no,
I'm just gonna go. It's like, no, nigga, you cheating.
Do you have a fast pass? Nobody asked him, do
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you got a fast pass? Or you got a disabled
child right there? No, you're just cutting. You go and
tell somebody tells you to stop, right, But don't nobody
want to be a problem. You don't want to be
the one that caused the problems, because what if they're like,
make me, well, now you've got to squabble. Well, I
don't want to fight in Disneyland, but I mean, y'all
just gonna let this person cut in front of all
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of us. We all been waiting in this lot. Y'all
just gonna let them do it. Somebody has to be like,
I ain't letting that shit ride. Somebody gotta be like
like like Kendrick, like I'm not with the Kumbaya shit.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Man eclips record is great.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So the question is do you do that? Like, do
you say, wait, wait, hold up, you can't just everybody
y'all just gonna let them do this. But if you've
already said to yourself, listen.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I'm not a line cutter.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I don't do that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'm committed to nonviolence.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We already had our system, we have already decided we
actually like our system, our systems working, and our people
like it. But we've been put in a position where
if nobody, somebody got to do something, is.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The argument. So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Well, Governor Newsom says, well, we redraw districts. But because
California actually likes their system, you have to vote on that.
We not like Texas where the politicians can just decide
to do it, because that seems crazy, right, so we
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know this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You can't just.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That is clearly disenfranchisement. That's what I don't understand about Texas.
Like you're being disenfranchised, right, you roping you into a
district that meant that your vote ain't gonna matter.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's like on purpose, fam. But that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So California has it's Bill ACA eight and it has
officially made the ballot for November fourth, right, And what
they're saying is this is temporary. We're just gonna do
this for three years, and it's we don't end. It's
funny here and the Democrats be like, you know, I
(23:21):
don't want to do this. Normally I wouldn't be okay
with this, but we're just gonna do this for three years,
and look, I hate to do it. What's our options?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Are we gonna let him just take over?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
We're gonna let him take over this country while we're
the we're the only state that is big enough to
be able to do what Texas is doing.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It kind of falls on us.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Just like if you was in a line at the
amusement park, it kind of if you the only one
that know you got squabbles, it kind of fall on you,
like you just gonna let these people cut in line
or not. They got their dumb ass dad at the
end of there, just saying hey, just go, just go,
just go, and you, like my nigga, you can't just
tell them that.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And that's what they did. Now it's on our ballots.
Now let's talk some pros and some cons. Next, hm.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Hm hm.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Now they say again laying the foundation. They say it's
only supposed to last three years.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Do you believe them? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But if you up for a fight, you're up for
a fight. You're down to squabble, You down to squabble.
I normally I don't do this.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Now. To do this, you need a special election, right,
and special elections do cost money. And that's one of
the cons. Right, they do cost a lot of money.
Is money we ain't got, well money we have, we
just don't like to be spending in on shit that matters, right, So,
according to them, is money we ain't got, but it
is what it is. We've done it before when we
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almost recalled Gavin right it was a special election. I please,
I hope the rest of the world understands. While he's
being an edge lord with his tweets and stuff, you know,
he's shit posting, which isn't him. It's actually a really
double lading our lady, who's hilarious. Please don't get it
in your mind that we have forgot how cruel that
(26:11):
man has been to our homeless population, Like nobody trusts
a man to slick his hair back like that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Who messing with? Who's an Eskimo bro of a Trump child? Bruh,
it's hard for me to like you hate listen, but look,
he's not Zorhan, but he's our Zorhan. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
A few points about California is California is remarkably Republican,
more than y'all think. That's another misconception about Cali. The
thing is it's we are literally a bunch of coastal elites.
But it's only it's only the southern and Bay Area
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coast because once you get hired of that to almost
Jefferson and.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Like why Rica like that coast?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
They not wit what we wit that Jefferson County. That's
a whole other planet. Matter of fact, let me go
ahead and give you some demographics. Okay, this is the
election's demographics from the state of California, right, and it's
one hundred and fifty four day result. I'll link the
page in the show notes. It's historical voter registration statistics
(27:38):
for statewide primaries and presidential election years. Right. So in
September fourth of two thousand and seven, the population demographic
was forty two point five percent Democratic and thirty three
percent Republican and nineteen percent no party preference and then
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four other. In twenty twenty three, of course, because of
what was going on, we were forty six percent Republican,
our forty six percent Democrat, twenty three percent Republican I'm
not doing the point nines and stuff, and then twenty
two percent no party reference preference and then seven percent other.
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The point I'm trying to make is, if you look
at a map of California's demographics, there are a lot
more Republicans than you think there are, like way more.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You just have to get out of the coast.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And once you're in and even when you are in
our more affluent coastal regions, you get to Orange County,
it's very red. You know, there's purple areas. There's an
entire swath of California that none of y'all think about
as California.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That is rule agricultural, and they are very much conservative.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And as much as I understand the fight we in,
it's they finna get disenfranchised.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
They votes Finla.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
They already feel disan They already feel like they votes
don't matter, you know what I'm saying, Because it's just
too many of us on the coast, just number wise,
So for them, they're like, so our votes are gonna
matter less, like they already don't matter. We talked about
this before, Like LA has very little natural water. Our
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water come from Sacramento. Do you know how salty I
would be if I was from north central California and
I'm like, LA exists because you tapped our water. Do
you know how salty I would be about that? I
would hate lost Yo, desert ass city. You're not even
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supposed to be a city. I would be so salty
about that. Oh man, But we have like a percentage
of I mean, there's Green Party, there's American Independence now
very much is very small, but the majority, more than
our almost half is Democrat, at least in primaries.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So the arguments against are.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
It's further disenfranchisement for a big swath of the country
of the state, it's going to cost so much, right,
And then there's the like are you really going to
stick to the three year thing?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And then finally we have a system that works.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You can't let this mad man get you off your
square because if you let this mad man get you
off your square at this point, then it's the slippery
slope argument. Then we lose our code. What's the point
of a code that if someone get out of pocket,
do you just willing to walk away from it? Then
we don't have a plan, Mike Tyson, everybody got a
(31:11):
plan until they get punched in the face, you know
what I'm saying, Like, so do you like I thought
we had a plan. I thought we went through this.
I thought we were better than this. We've already decided
this is who we are. That cheating, that nigga crity,
cheating like I don't need to be like he wild
that nigga gota pocket. He violates all the time. I
ain't gonna violate because he violates. I live by a code.
(31:32):
Where's your code? Or if you're able to like walk
away from your code, then you ain't got one. Then
you live by a different one than that. What are
your non negotiables? I thought, I thought we already decided
that this is who we were, and we can't just
let you know one monkey don't stop, no show. We
(31:54):
can't let we gotta trust us, trust us, trust that
we're gonna do the right thing. This is how we
said we was gonna show up despite whoever they are right.
If we do this, then we're no different. The other
problem is, even if we redistrict, it still may not work.
(32:21):
People are unpredictable. You might draw these new districts and
still not get five seats. That's the risk that even
Texas is running, you may not win.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You may be like all right, nigga, square up. You
might be like nigga, no, I'm down the squabble, and
that nigga may lay you out. You may have broken
your code, said the person cutting in line. You'd have
broke your code and said no, no, no, you're not
allowed to do it. It's like, well, you make me
and then you try to make me throw you out
of that. You just flip over the stench and you
might lose. So we may go through all that, break
(32:54):
our own code and still not get what we need.
So that's a risk, right. And finally, y'all, why is
it on us? Like, why is it California's job? Besides
Texas and Us? There are forty eight other states.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
We why is that? That's not we need to be
worried about us? We know what Trump doing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
We already know what he do, how he play with us,
how he been fucking with us all, Like, we ain't
got time to play none of this, none of these games.
It's ice in our streets. You know what I'm saying.
I know you just want to run for president?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Like why are you?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I thought you was the government in California? You talking
about national issues like nigga focus on us? Why should
we break our code to cover a mistake that Texas
is doing. They ain't got shit to do with us.
They gonna do what they gonna do if Governor Abbott,
you know what I'm saying, wanta. Slabanov like he can.
(33:56):
Slabanov like what we're doing is what we're doing now.
Pros next, All right, pros Now, if you believe the
(34:28):
argument that they're making in this ballot, then you understand
that what they're saying is nobody want to do this.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
This is strategy. I am.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I have been put in in I have been put
in im possible position. I have been put in a
position where there is no good choice. I just have
to use what's been given to me. If I would
play by the rules, if I was playing against a
person who believed in rules. We are dealing with a
man who is obviously an authoritarian. This is he said
(35:02):
it out loud with his own mouth. It's a power graph,
and at some point there's a reality of like I,
I would do more damage, I would allow for more
suffering by holding onto my principle. If the point of
my principle is to reduce harm, then this is the
(35:24):
way to reduce harm. But it's only temporary. It's only
until this threat has been eliminated. I in a personal example,
I don't like fighting.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I don't like VII. Some of my homies like it.
Shit is not fun to me. I prefer not to.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I don't want to get in the know. Even when
I was younger, I don't want to get in the know.
No situations I don't want. I like it, that's not
I don't want that, but I will because there are
certain things, like there are certain things that levels of
importance that's transcend my desire for tranquility. And sometimes the
(36:13):
way to get to tranquility, the way to get to
peace is through the door of violence. Sometimes that's case.
Sometimes you just got a scrap, right, And when we
do this, maybe this was the time, maybe we did
need to redistrict a little bit. Maybe we were like
having a situation where our needs weren't actually being met
(36:34):
the way that we wanted them to be because we
were holding onto our principles in a way that was
becoming detrimental. And then also, should the House flip the
way that President Trump is trying to make it flip,
it puts California in a position to where, like you said,
(36:57):
you want us to worry about us, this is us
worrying about us because this means that issues that affect
us that come from the Federals, we would lose even
more authority and power in ways to push back at
like did we not have did the Marines not come
(37:17):
to our streets? That granted they quietly slipped out because
they wasn't doing none here. It was literally National Guard
just left. Nothing was happening because there was no point
in being here. Right, But I shouldn't have had to
put y'all through all that.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
That sucked. It sucked that we had to go through
all that, right sucked.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It put undue unnecessary stress on the whole team. And
it's only gonna get worse unless we do something.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And what we got.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Is a weapon over here that we put away. What
we got over here is a tool that we said
we did not want to use, but we still got
it and if we can just use it just for now.
But we already put in safeguards. The safeguards is the
fact that we have to vote on it. And what
we're voting on is the three year thing. Now, if
(38:08):
we want to extend it for three years, we got
to come and ask you again too. We can't just
do it again. We have to ask y'all. So what
we're saying is we're already adding the safeguards and we're
put in a position that we don't want to be
in If I don't stop him, if we don't do anything,
he not only gonna slap the shit out of us,
he's gonna slap shit out of the rest of the States.
(38:28):
And to be honest, you know why the other states
ain't doing it because they don't have a weapon we got.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
They not as big as us.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
We can't feel like being one of the biggest spots
here is kind of on us to do it. I
have to scribe, and if I lose, so be it,
so be it. Because you're right, you might lose. We
might redistrict and still not get the amount of seats
that you want to get.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But you know what, so be it, so be it.
Votes might go the opposite way.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
And if the votes actually go the opposite way, it's
actually more reflective of what's going on in Cali anyway,
and that's actually a good thing. That's the arguments for now.
The outliers is do you trust Gavin Newsom? Do you
trust the system? Do you trust his motives? And also
is Texas gonna go through it?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Go through with this?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
And what if Trump changes his mind because you know
he's freestyling up there, so we may go through all
this reply to all this jump and frogging his nigga,
just get over it, right? Maybe what if this is
all just because he ain't try to he's still trying
to avoid the Epstein shit. What if he's just preemptively
(39:34):
doing this and he's still and Texas pulls through and
doesn't get the five seats and then he still wins.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Like there's there's so many variables, there's so many outliers.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Ain't got answered. I'm just saying we're scrapping or what
we'll decide November fourth politics. All right, now, don't you
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So listen. Don't let nobody lie to you. If you
understand urban living, you understand politics.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
next week.
As media, we saw a little gangbanger was cracking full
he was squabbing or what fucking lambs a square up lamp, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Look, that's the question.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
To slap the taste out of somebody's mouth or not
to slap the taste out of somebody's mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That is the question.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Welcome to hood politics another to live and die in
la uh. We have the timeless dilemma in whatever context
you want to give of.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Remember you remember a few years ago the question of
do you punch a Nazi or not?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And the two sides of the story was like, you know, well,
if you punch a Nazi, that's what they want. It
makes you no different, Right, so you're supposed to take
the high road. Right, when they go low, we go
hi the Michelle Obama speech.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Then the other side of that is like when they
go low, we squabble up. Nigga, I go lower. When
they go low, I sweep the leg I don't make
the rules. When you are put in an impossible position,
your code becomes irrelevant. Like sometimes that's the position and
(01:38):
the question is do you stick with it or not?
You know, these are Martin and Malcolm questions, right, who
were not as separate on their beliefs as people would
like them to believe. Although he believed in nonviolence, that
don't mean he ain't gonna slap the shit out of
you if he needs to. Right, But that's the question,
(01:59):
the question of when someone is reckless and only understands
messiness or violence, do you, as our parents used to say,
don't stoop to their level? Right when they clap, do
you clap back? Or do you try to be the
(02:19):
quote unquote bigger person? Now, sometimes the bigger person is
a complicated concept. One of the again proverbial examples of
this is like hiding Jewish families from the Nazis?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Right do you lie?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Do you hide them and lie because it was a
law and nigga, that's not a question of course you do, right?
But does that put your own family in danger by
doing that?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But that's obviously the right question. You break the law there,
But sometimes it's not so obvious.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Sometimes in.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
A situation like I said, where maybe you don't like
to function, maybe your code is one that says to
handle this situation means I need to do something against
my own code.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The question is do you trust the code?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Do you trust the process, Continue to maintain your own integrity.
Be the person of circumspect, Be the person that you
know you want to be so that you can sleep
at night. Or do you say you know what the
greater good in here is to beat your ass?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I mean that's the question facing California on November fourth,
to squabble or not to squabble, the question of jerry
mandering in California?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Who politics?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Y'all?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
All right? Listen?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Metaphors not being perfect as they can be, comparison is
not being perfect as they can be, but they're notwithstanding that,
there are times where fighting is your only option, right
if we're using your again understanding of like the dark
Cornerstone premise that if you understand the hood, you understand politics.
(04:26):
There are times that fighting is just not is unavoidable.
There are times when you're dealing with a bully. Are
you dealing with a hood situation where it's like, you know,
you don't I can't call the cops. The cops don't help,
They're just another problem. You not listen in a reason,
the power dynamic between us two is one that is insurmountable.
(04:50):
Like there are times where the power dynamic is insurmountable.
I can think of three scenarios in my coming up
age where the power dynamic was not surmountable. This was
I mean, I think of him in every area I
lived in the Inland Empire. When I was out there,
you know, walking home from school, I'm I'm outnumbered.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It was like this was one of some of it
had like a lot of racial tension because like it
wasn't a lot of us out there in area called
the San gabol Valley.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Where if you know me, you know where I I
a lot of people I know personally, you know, listen
to the show, know where I grew up in Lapenteve, Linda.
And there were times where again the power dynamic made
it impossible. There's I can't be the bigger person, and
I also I can't square up with this person. It's
(05:44):
not it's not a this isn't a fair This isn't
a fair one. Like the New Yorkers say, man, go
catch a fair one. It's not fair. Even if it's
one on one, it's not fair. We can't go head up,
you know what I'm saying, Like this is your hood.
So even if even if I do throw right now
to this dude, is I have to I'm gonna be
running home for the rest of my days. There's no
(06:08):
there is no fair ones. Right if I try to
take my bike to you're going to steal my bike, Like,
there's no there's no fair ones, even if I could
think of one. In the Inland Empire where I I
didn't fear him. I feared his big brothers. Where I
was like many times I was like, I'm gonna throw
(06:31):
you over this table.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
But I feared his brothers.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
So even if we fought, it's and and and he
faded me, faded me. But if we fought and I
slapped the taste out of his mouth and won, he's
got two.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Brothers that have to like that's just it's just the reality.
The two brothers were older than us.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You have to come help your little brother, even if
you think your little brother is wrong. And most of
the time it was because this dude had a mouth,
Like most of the time it was like he was
probably wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You've put me in a situation, And sometimes I can
joke my way out of it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I hope you can see where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
There are times that, like, I've been able to joke
my way out of it, so I didn't have to fight,
right I had to use mockery. I had to use
the tools that were available to me because I was
in a situation that required me to move in a
way that I don't necessarily move right now. On the
(07:31):
other hand, there's also the possibility that well, I've actually
I'm lying to myself about this code, that this mockery
is fighting this, that's who I really am, and I
do stand to gain a lot, whether it's reputation, whether
it's the ladies, whatever the case may be. I stand
(07:53):
to gain a lot because I actually I've been itching
to beat the shit out of you.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I say that, Oh, I'm the bigger person.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I say that like like that again back to the
Nazi thing, where it's like, oh, you know, you want to,
you want to, you want to beat the brakes off him,
but you're scared, y'all say it. So the question is
about the vote that California has to do over whether
(08:25):
we Jerrymander or not. So today a little bit of
background what we have done in Cali. Way back to
when during the governator time and what's really at stake here?
And is it worth it now? Spoiler alert, I don't
have an answer. I actually don't know what I'm a vote.
(08:46):
I know I still have time, but this question is
only a California question. Right now, y'all got next? Wherever
you are, you got next? Because we're dealing with a
situation where the person that we're dealing with moves differently
than the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
When somebody you're dealing with somebody that don't, they play
by a different set of rules. Sometimes you get into
a position where these are just the cards we were dealt.
I have to play the cards I was dealt, even
if I don't even want to play this game in
the first place. So I'm gonna try to make a
case for and against and look, saw you player, I
(09:36):
can't tell you what to do, all right? All ready,
here we go. So a couple of weeks ago, we
(10:13):
did an episode on jerrymandering what it means in the
history of it, right.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You can refer back to that, But essentially, it's the
drawing of your districts. If you don't know what your
district is that's the area for which your state representative
in the legislative branch.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Goes, So you're voting for that, right.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Every state has two senators, and then in your House
of Representative, it depends on the amount of districts that
are in your state. Right now, when you are running
for a legislative position, right, you're running to be the
representative for.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
This particular district.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Now, the most logical way to think of a district
is people who have shared interests because they live in
a shared space, right, So they should obviously be regional, right,
because we regionally right. A lot of times region relates
pretty close to socioeconomic not always because especially places like Irvine,
(11:18):
if you're down to La like or certain parts of
Los Angeles where one side of the street are mansions,
the others are mansions that have been converted to apartments, right,
because the people that live across the street are the
living servants, the gardeners, the people that serve the houses
(11:40):
across the street. So there is an extreme wealth gap
literally across the street, right. Or there's people because we
live in a commuting town where you live hours away
from where you work, which is in a different place
than where your kids go to school, right, So we
just have a spread out community. So even though it
(12:02):
might logically seem like geographic districting makes the most sense
because we use the same stop light, these the same stores.
We you know, were dealing with the same traffic, taxes, schools.
There's we just this is just our experience, right. Sometimes
it might become a little more complicated to that, So
(12:23):
drawing district lines can get a little complicated. But when
you draw district lines and you're running for office, obviously
you want the easiest route to success. Right. Hopefully this
is a place that you care about, but it's probably
(12:46):
a place you just desire power for. Right now, in
a perfect world, people who are directly affected by the
decisions made and the actions with in a particular district
are the ones that are running for office. So that
you represent the needs and the desires of the people
(13:06):
that live in that district. That's what it's supposed to be, right,
And some of those needs and desires might be in conflict.
That makes sense, right, So what you do You need
to run people for office that represent the multiplicity of
ideas and needs, and then you make the best case
for how you can represent us the best. Some of
y'all might have different political positions, may have different solutions
(13:29):
and answers, and may come from different partisan sections. That's great, compete, right,
make your case, show how you care, show your ideas,
show us what it is that would help us understand
right that you are going to represent our best interests.
(13:49):
But that sounds hard, right if you run of office.
I ain't trying to do all that.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I just want to win. Well, how could I win?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
If I make the districts, the shape and the population
of the districts be just looped around the people that
I know want me to win, then I don't have
to compete with nobody. So I'm gonna draw this amorphous.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Weird circle because I know everybody inside of this already
agrees with me. It is thatshit bonkers and at the
same time so normal that the politician running for office
gets to draw the district boundaries.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That makes that is clearly a foul. That's clearly a violation,
right Like that is guys, disenfranchisement. You have just that.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You don't get to choose your elected official. Your elected
official chooses you. I'm a find the people that I
already know we won't me, and I'm gonna make them
a district and then tell them that you're voting for me,
that I need Joe vote.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It is absurd, but that's what gerrymandering is. It's a
way to like make sure that out went.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's the dark side of it. Now, the good side
of it is, sometimes demographics change. Sometimes the borders do change,
sometimes because of migration in its most international sense, and
other times just people moving, cities changing, school's changing, the
desires changes. The demographics change, right, and sometimes with that right,
(15:35):
the district boundary kind of just doesn't It kind of
doesn't make sense anymore because the people inside of this
space couldn't be more different. Right in the graph for Africa,
I think I used this in the first thing. It's
like the colonizer came in and just drew lines on
the map and called one place one country and the
(15:56):
other place the other country. The lines are arbitrary and absurd,
driven through like neighborhoods. All of a sudden, my granddaddy,
who lives across the street is living in a different
country now because somebody drew a line right there. That
is absurd, right, But other times, it might be, you know,
to use a.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
More of a modern example, a new school was built, right,
a new middle school was built, which brought an influx
of younger families into this place that maybe was a
multi generational area which was mostly old people. Now the
demographics have changed, so maybe these district borders kind of
(16:40):
don't make sense, so maybe we should redraw them, right,
but who gets to decide that? Should the politician be
able to decide that? To me, that seems absurd, but
it's the world we end now. When the governator came,
this was Arnold Swarzenegger in two thousand and eight. He
was the one that was like a Republican. He was like,
(17:02):
this seems ridiculous that we should be able to draw
our own districts. Don't you think there should be some
sort of bipartisan independent person who not running for office
that don't get to choose the rules, that don't that
gets to choose that don't make sense to y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So that's what he did. He was like, Okay, let's
do that. Let's let.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
An independent person who is just paid to look at
this objectively, not by us, right, we don't do it
they do it. They look at what's going on in
the country or in the state and they say, this
makes more sense than this. Now, when you do that,
that means that it goes back to that competitive districts
(17:45):
And that's what we've had in California for the last
ten to twenty years since two thousand and eight, were
districts set by an independent board who looked at what
was actually happening here and was like, no, no, no,
y'all don't get choose it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
We get to choose it, right. And when you do that,
that means you have a.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Diversity of candidates running because you just don't get to
choose your own district to where you could just like
moon walk right into it. You don't get to TUTSI,
you know, TUTSI step all the way into the office
without no problems. No, like it's competitive, you know what
I'm saying. So that means you got to come with
(18:25):
your a game. You can't just like you can't just
phone it in because if you just phone it in,
that is kind of like it's kind of like disenfranchisement.
Right now, incomes Trump, who said the quiet part out
loud with Texas. He was like, look, I'm finna lose this,
(18:45):
I'm finna lose the mid term. So it still bonkers
to me that he's trying to say that there's a
deep state and they a cabal of people working against him.
When you when he is the institution, you are, you run,
you run all branches, You're you're the majority in every
branch of government.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Howard, what govern what government? Deep state?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You are it?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But anyway, he was like, look, we're finna lose, so
let's just get more districts. How do I do that?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He's like, well, it's simple. We just draw the district
maps again and then we just get four other seats.
We draw it in a way that we get the seats.
Like so, he you just gonna say it, right, So
that's what he did. That's what he did in Texas
and Texas bend Over Soldier did exactly what they wanted
him to do, right, drudis map that is absurd. Despite
(19:38):
all of the pushback from the state, they just made it.
It's absurd, but they're able to do it. California Governor
Newsom says, wait man, Waitman, Wayman, Wayman, Wayman, Wayman, Wayman, Wayman.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Women.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
We can't just let this slide. So if they gonna redistrict,
then we should redistrict. If they buss, we bus right,
that's not fair because they're cheating. But they found a
way to cheat. That's not cheating. Does that make sense
(20:12):
because you can because the state can make their own laws.
But we already decided in California that's against the code.
We know that that's shady. We know that that's the
wrong thing to do. Also, can we just let him
do this? Or when we kind of can't, just let him?
(20:33):
Somebody cut in front of the line on at an
amusement park. He just you know, like you've a been
to a music park and somebody just like excuse me,
excuse me, excuse me, and they just walk into the front.
That's because nobody stopped him. Somebody could be like no, no, no, no,
you need to wait here, and they're like, well, no,
I'm just gonna go. It's like, no, nigga, you cheating.
Do you have a fast pass? Nobody asked him, do
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you got a fast pass? Or you got a disabled
child right there? No, you're just cutting. You go and
tell somebody tells you to stop, right, But don't nobody
want to be a problem. You don't want to be
the one that caused the problems, because what if they're like,
make me, well, now you've got to squabble. Well, I
don't want to fight in Disneyland, but I mean, y'all
just gonna let this person cut in front of all
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of us. We all been waiting in this lot. Y'all
just gonna let them do it. Somebody has to be like,
I ain't letting that shit ride. Somebody gotta be like
like like Kendrick, like I'm not with the Kumbaya shit.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Man eclips record is great.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So the question is do you do that? Like, do
you say, wait, wait, hold up, you can't just everybody
y'all just gonna let them do this. But if you've
already said to yourself, listen.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I'm not a line cutter.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I don't do that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'm committed to nonviolence.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We already had our system, we have already decided we
actually like our system, our systems working, and our people
like it. But we've been put in a position where
if nobody, somebody got to do something, is.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The argument. So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Well, Governor Newsom says, well, we redraw districts. But because
California actually likes their system, you have to vote on that.
We not like Texas where the politicians can just decide
to do it, because that seems crazy, right, so we
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know this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You can't just.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That is clearly disenfranchisement. That's what I don't understand about Texas.
Like you're being disenfranchised, right, you roping you into a
district that meant that your vote ain't gonna matter.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's like on purpose, fam. But that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So California has it's Bill ACA eight and it has
officially made the ballot for November fourth, right, And what
they're saying is this is temporary. We're just gonna do
this for three years, and it's we don't end. It's
funny here and the Democrats be like, you know, I
(23:21):
don't want to do this. Normally I wouldn't be okay
with this, but we're just gonna do this for three years,
and look, I hate to do it. What's our options?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Are we gonna let him just take over?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
We're gonna let him take over this country while we're
the we're the only state that is big enough to
be able to do what Texas is doing.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It kind of falls on us.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Just like if you was in a line at the
amusement park, it kind of if you the only one
that know you got squabbles, it kind of fall on you,
like you just gonna let these people cut in line
or not. They got their dumb ass dad at the
end of there, just saying hey, just go, just go,
just go, and you, like my nigga, you can't just
tell them that.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And that's what they did. Now it's on our ballots.
Now let's talk some pros and some cons. Next, hm.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Hm hm.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Now they say again laying the foundation. They say it's
only supposed to last three years.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Do you believe them? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But if you up for a fight, you're up for
a fight. You're down to squabble, You down to squabble.
I normally I don't do this.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Now. To do this, you need a special election, right,
and special elections do cost money. And that's one of
the cons. Right, they do cost a lot of money.
Is money we ain't got, well money we have, we
just don't like to be spending in on shit that matters, right, So,
according to them, is money we ain't got, but it
is what it is. We've done it before when we
(25:47):
almost recalled Gavin right it was a special election. I please,
I hope the rest of the world understands. While he's
being an edge lord with his tweets and stuff, you know,
he's shit posting, which isn't him. It's actually a really
double lading our lady, who's hilarious. Please don't get it
in your mind that we have forgot how cruel that
(26:11):
man has been to our homeless population, Like nobody trusts
a man to slick his hair back like that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Who messing with? Who's an Eskimo bro of a Trump child? Bruh,
it's hard for me to like you hate listen, but look,
he's not Zorhan, but he's our Zorhan. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
A few points about California is California is remarkably Republican,
more than y'all think. That's another misconception about Cali. The
thing is it's we are literally a bunch of coastal elites.
But it's only it's only the southern and Bay Area
(27:05):
coast because once you get hired of that to almost
Jefferson and.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Like why Rica like that coast?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
They not wit what we wit that Jefferson County. That's
a whole other planet. Matter of fact, let me go
ahead and give you some demographics. Okay, this is the
election's demographics from the state of California, right, and it's
one hundred and fifty four day result. I'll link the
page in the show notes. It's historical voter registration statistics
(27:38):
for statewide primaries and presidential election years. Right. So in
September fourth of two thousand and seven, the population demographic
was forty two point five percent Democratic and thirty three
percent Republican and nineteen percent no party preference and then
(28:00):
four other. In twenty twenty three, of course, because of
what was going on, we were forty six percent Republican,
our forty six percent Democrat, twenty three percent Republican I'm
not doing the point nines and stuff, and then twenty
two percent no party reference preference and then seven percent other.
(28:21):
The point I'm trying to make is, if you look
at a map of California's demographics, there are a lot
more Republicans than you think there are, like way more.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You just have to get out of the coast.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And once you're in and even when you are in
our more affluent coastal regions, you get to Orange County,
it's very red. You know, there's purple areas. There's an
entire swath of California that none of y'all think about
as California.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That is rule agricultural, and they are very much conservative.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And as much as I understand the fight we in,
it's they finna get disenfranchised.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
They votes Finla.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
They already feel disan They already feel like they votes
don't matter, you know what I'm saying, Because it's just
too many of us on the coast, just number wise,
So for them, they're like, so our votes are gonna
matter less, like they already don't matter. We talked about
this before, Like LA has very little natural water. Our
(29:33):
water come from Sacramento. Do you know how salty I
would be if I was from north central California and
I'm like, LA exists because you tapped our water. Do
you know how salty I would be about that? I
would hate lost Yo, desert ass city. You're not even
(29:59):
supposed to be a city. I would be so salty
about that. Oh man, But we have like a percentage
of I mean, there's Green Party, there's American Independence now
very much is very small, but the majority, more than
our almost half is Democrat, at least in primaries.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So the arguments against are.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
It's further disenfranchisement for a big swath of the country
of the state, it's going to cost so much, right,
And then there's the like are you really going to
stick to the three year thing?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And then finally we have a system that works.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You can't let this mad man get you off your
square because if you let this mad man get you
off your square at this point, then it's the slippery
slope argument. Then we lose our code. What's the point
of a code that if someone get out of pocket,
do you just willing to walk away from it? Then
we don't have a plan, Mike Tyson, everybody got a
(31:11):
plan until they get punched in the face, you know
what I'm saying, Like, so do you like I thought
we had a plan. I thought we went through this.
I thought we were better than this. We've already decided
this is who we are. That cheating, that nigga crity,
cheating like I don't need to be like he wild
that nigga gota pocket. He violates all the time. I
ain't gonna violate because he violates. I live by a code.
(31:32):
Where's your code? Or if you're able to like walk
away from your code, then you ain't got one. Then
you live by a different one than that. What are
your non negotiables? I thought, I thought we already decided
that this is who we were, and we can't just
let you know one monkey don't stop, no show. We
(31:54):
can't let we gotta trust us, trust us, trust that
we're gonna do the right thing. This is how we
said we was gonna show up despite whoever they are right.
If we do this, then we're no different. The other
problem is, even if we redistrict, it still may not work.
(32:21):
People are unpredictable. You might draw these new districts and
still not get five seats. That's the risk that even
Texas is running, you may not win.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You may be like all right, nigga, square up. You
might be like nigga, no, I'm down the squabble, and
that nigga may lay you out. You may have broken
your code, said the person cutting in line. You'd have
broke your code and said no, no, no, you're not
allowed to do it. It's like, well, you make me
and then you try to make me throw you out
of that. You just flip over the stench and you
might lose. So we may go through all that, break
(32:54):
our own code and still not get what we need.
So that's a risk, right. And finally, y'all, why is
it on us? Like, why is it California's job? Besides
Texas and Us? There are forty eight other states.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
We why is that? That's not we need to be
worried about us? We know what Trump doing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
We already know what he do, how he play with us,
how he been fucking with us all, Like, we ain't
got time to play none of this, none of these games.
It's ice in our streets. You know what I'm saying.
I know you just want to run for president?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Like why are you?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I thought you was the government in California? You talking
about national issues like nigga focus on us? Why should
we break our code to cover a mistake that Texas
is doing. They ain't got shit to do with us.
They gonna do what they gonna do if Governor Abbott,
you know what I'm saying, wanta. Slabanov like he can.
(33:56):
Slabanov like what we're doing is what we're doing now.
Pros next, All right, pros Now, if you believe the
(34:28):
argument that they're making in this ballot, then you understand
that what they're saying is nobody want to do this.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
This is strategy. I am.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I have been put in in I have been put
in im possible position. I have been put in a
position where there is no good choice. I just have
to use what's been given to me. If I would
play by the rules, if I was playing against a
person who believed in rules. We are dealing with a
man who is obviously an authoritarian. This is he said
(35:02):
it out loud with his own mouth. It's a power graph,
and at some point there's a reality of like I,
I would do more damage, I would allow for more
suffering by holding onto my principle. If the point of
my principle is to reduce harm, then this is the
(35:24):
way to reduce harm. But it's only temporary. It's only
until this threat has been eliminated. I in a personal example,
I don't like fighting.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I don't like VII. Some of my homies like it.
Shit is not fun to me. I prefer not to.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I don't want to get in the know. Even when
I was younger, I don't want to get in the know.
No situations I don't want. I like it, that's not
I don't want that, but I will because there are
certain things, like there are certain things that levels of
importance that's transcend my desire for tranquility. And sometimes the
(36:13):
way to get to tranquility, the way to get to
peace is through the door of violence. Sometimes that's case.
Sometimes you just got a scrap, right, And when we
do this, maybe this was the time, maybe we did
need to redistrict a little bit. Maybe we were like
having a situation where our needs weren't actually being met
(36:34):
the way that we wanted them to be because we
were holding onto our principles in a way that was
becoming detrimental. And then also, should the House flip the
way that President Trump is trying to make it flip,
it puts California in a position to where, like you said,
(36:57):
you want us to worry about us, this is us
worrying about us because this means that issues that affect
us that come from the Federals, we would lose even
more authority and power in ways to push back at
like did we not have did the Marines not come
(37:17):
to our streets? That granted they quietly slipped out because
they wasn't doing none here. It was literally National Guard
just left. Nothing was happening because there was no point
in being here. Right, But I shouldn't have had to
put y'all through all that.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
That sucked. It sucked that we had to go through
all that, right sucked.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It put undue unnecessary stress on the whole team. And
it's only gonna get worse unless we do something.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And what we got.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Is a weapon over here that we put away. What
we got over here is a tool that we said
we did not want to use, but we still got
it and if we can just use it just for now.
But we already put in safeguards. The safeguards is the
fact that we have to vote on it. And what
we're voting on is the three year thing. Now, if
(38:08):
we want to extend it for three years, we got
to come and ask you again too. We can't just
do it again. We have to ask y'all. So what
we're saying is we're already adding the safeguards and we're
put in a position that we don't want to be
in If I don't stop him, if we don't do anything,
he not only gonna slap the shit out of us,
he's gonna slap shit out of the rest of the States.
(38:28):
And to be honest, you know why the other states
ain't doing it because they don't have a weapon we got.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
They not as big as us.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
We can't feel like being one of the biggest spots
here is kind of on us to do it. I
have to scribe, and if I lose, so be it,
so be it. Because you're right, you might lose. We
might redistrict and still not get the amount of seats
that you want to get.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But you know what, so be it, so be it.
Votes might go the opposite way.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
And if the votes actually go the opposite way, it's
actually more reflective of what's going on in Cali anyway,
and that's actually a good thing. That's the arguments for now.
The outliers is do you trust Gavin Newsom? Do you
trust the system? Do you trust his motives? And also
is Texas gonna go through it?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Go through with this?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
And what if Trump changes his mind because you know
he's freestyling up there, so we may go through all
this reply to all this jump and frogging his nigga,
just get over it, right? Maybe what if this is
all just because he ain't try to he's still trying
to avoid the Epstein shit. What if he's just preemptively
(39:34):
doing this and he's still and Texas pulls through and
doesn't get the five seats and then he still wins.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Like there's there's so many variables, there's so many outliers.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Ain't got answered. I'm just saying we're scrapping or what
we'll decide November fourth politics. All right, now, don't you
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hit stop on this pod. You better listen to these credits.
I need you to finish this thing so I can
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(41:21):
So listen. Don't let nobody lie to you. If you
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Speaker 2 (41:26):
These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
next week.
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