August 16, 2023 • 47 mins
Today we continue our discussion on the Supreme Court and all of their antics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, Look, I ain't thinking about y'all at all. You
know what I'm saying. You can miss me. No, look,
y'all can have it.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Man, I ain't Bigmo thinking about you right now. All
gone on with that. These are always of saying, I
ain't really worried about what you're talking about. I'm not
thinking about what you what you I'm not listening, I
ain't thinking about nothing you got to say.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm doing me. You know what I'm saying? You do
you do you?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Boobo?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You do you? Why?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Because I'm gonna do me. I don't worry about what
I'm doing. I don't worry about my plate, worry about
your plate. It's all kind of ways we we got
as a culture to be like, don't worry about what
I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Don't like I ain't got explain nothing to you.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's funny, how like a lot of us know who's
kind of raised like that to where it's like our
parents don't owe us explanations at all. I ain't gotta
explain nothing to you. We just you stay out their business.
You know, none of you don't pay for none of
these bills in this house. You know when you when
you when you're paying for stuff in the house. Maybe
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you have a say you like what I say. You
like my grandma used to say, if I say two
plus two is five, you better let me figure it out.
You just don't correct grown folks. You just you mind
your own business. You ain't lived long enough, you ain't
gone through what we're gone through. You don't get a say.
I don't know how healthy that is. I don't know
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how toxic it is, because we definitely had to say
definitely went to the room and screamed and pouted and
was like, I ain't gonna do my kids like that.
And then you get kids and you realize really how
good it feels to not have to explain nothing. But
you don't want to repeat you hopefully you don't want
to repeat the same like practices that silenced you. You
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feel me, but you get why you be like, you
don't like why I don't owe you anything? Like everything
you got is mine. My mama said, wants to me.
When I was like, whatever I'm gonna leave, she was like, okay,
leave everything I bought. So like, if I'm gonna move out,
and she said, I have to leave everything she paid for.
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I like, I ain't even buy my own draws, my
own socks. I was like, So I get now when
a child, especially my child, got the nerve to look
at me and question any of my moves, I'm like,
little girl, on what authority do you think? In what
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world do you think you got the right to ask
me anything? You just gonna stand there and be mad
and scroll all on your phone? Oh the phone I
bought using the internet. I pay for up under the
air conditioner I pay for in a room that I
pay for. Listen, you only scrolling on the phone because
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I let you have it. You understand I can open
up app right now, turn off the service. What is
you talking about? I get it. But I also understand
that that is very toxic. It's not good. You shouldn't.
You shouldn't do that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if you have a good relationship with your children, at
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least is my opinion, then they need to see you
be accountable. They need to be able to, you know,
in a very respectful manner. At least I should be
able to if you ask, give you an appropriate you know,
for your age and your development, reason as to what
I'm doing. And if I'm tripping. I need to be
able to be honest about that and be like, look, dude,
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I'm tripping. And hopefully, you know, when they grow up
and they have roommates, you know, or or romantic partners
or friends, that they willing to admit it when they're wrong,
like hopefully for their future friends and their future job
and employers or people that work up under them. Hopefully
I'm handing you I've done my job to hand these
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future people in their life a more developed and evolved
human that is willing to admit their mistakes and is
willing to be held accountable and just doesn't repeat toxic
practices of power. So this episode is a part two
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about the Scotis, the Supreme Court of the United States.
Does a scotis stands for? If you didn't know that
Supreme Court of the United States scotis anyway, I just
figured i'd let you know that if you didn't already know.
They've been in our headlines for a while over a
few of the things that they've ruled on and also
some of the off mic practices Justice Alita and Justice
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Clarence Thomas. So today I'm gonna talk about how they
kind of like they broke their mold and started defending
some of their moves. And the funny part with Justice
a leader, it was like he preempted the defense. You know,
he kind of hit us with what had happened was
and really in a lot of ways like they've never
had to do that. So it's almost to me like,
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y'all pride got bruised and you felt like you needed
to explain yourself, But y'all never ever had to before,
the only time Justice is really explained how they feel.
One time they'll actually tell you what they thinking is
when they write their opinions about rulings they just made.
So today I'm gonna talk about Justice Alito, Justice Clarence Thomas,
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I'm gonna talk about the affirmative action case and the
like the gay website case that I'm gonna talk about.
All right, already, h you ain't signing my check or
marinate my chicken?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
What I care what you think? Hood politics? Y'all?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
All right, all right, all right, so here we go.
Y'all ain't marinating my chicken. So what I'm worried about, Well,
I'm worried about the people marinating my chicken. That's what
I'm worried about I'm worried about folks to sign in
my check. That's what I need to answer to. Do
you understand the implication? Right? What I'm saying is like,
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if you not really, if you're not really the one
that can like make this difference for me, then what
do I really care?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What you think?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I need to talk to the people that matter, right,
and the people that matter historically for judges are the Congress,
because the Congress are the ones that approve whether you
get the job or not. You have to do these
congressional hearings right where you stand up and they or
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you sit down and they get to grill you on
things you made. We watched all this happen. We watched
that with Kavanaugh, with Amy co Beart with doctor are brilliant?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What's up? Auntie Katingji Brown?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
As a side note, if you line up the credentials
of who might be most qualified for the job, there's
these two which will be important later, these two wings.
There is one side of like who's got the least
qualifications and who got the most qualifications, especially when we're
talking about affirmative action, and who got the most qualifications
for the job, the most amount of education, the most
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amount of experience, the most amount of.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Hours put in.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The most qualified person for this job is doctor KATINGI
Brown the least qualified, ain't hey, Kobe Barrett that if
we're just doing the numbers, so you ask me who's
which one? Sounds like affirmative But anyway, we're into that later.
But you guys have seen these hearings, right, So the
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people they answer in question to are those the marinate
they chicken now that used to not be on TV.
Once it started being on TV, the people that marinate
to day, chicken now got an audience, and the audience
is all of America, which means that you know, everybody
behave different when you know a camera on you. I
don't care what you say like everyone does when you
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know you being watched, right, I mean, isn't that what
our politics are now? Like dudes trying to like score
a little three minute spot on the news later, Like
so you try to speak in these pithy little clips
you feel me rather than these long flowing logical trains
of thought. You trying to just like get the little
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pifty little clip right that CNN or Fox or whoever
you shooting at can pull out that could get tweeted
by your team.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's what you're hoping for.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And even though this process, again the Supreme Court is
supposed to be the furthest away from the democratic process
because they're supposed to be able to be less beholden
to the whims of the public, because you have to
be new. You have to be able to be fair
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and balanced. You know what I'm saying. In your judges,
he's supposed to be like that. However, like we know,
each political silo is trying to score one for their team.
So the way to get laws changed, the way to
get your team more points is you need judges.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right when Roe v.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Wade happened, it was like that was ground zero for
where we at now. The goal was to always get
that change. The only way to get that change is
you're not gonna convince the public got to you gotta
fill the benches. And I'm going back to this man
named Robert Borke because his name became slang it's so
crazy to be right. And then I'm gonna move forward
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to what we're dealing with now. So again, so Ronald
Reagan had nominated this dude, Robert Borke, to join the
Supreme Court. Now he was supposed to be this conservative
home home run, like he gonna be our dude. We're
gonna make sure this go down right now. Since again
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this became a game of sort of like partisan gainsmanship.
If you put a dude up, it's our job if
we on the other team to drag this nigga, I
need to drag you in public. But remember again, before this,
it wasn't about dragging a person. It was about like
making sure this person was qualified. Well, let me ask
you some question. It was more like a job interview.
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When you stood up in front of the Congress, it
was a job interview. It's like I just need to
make sure you are who you say you are. Can
you really do this job? You know?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And I want to know how.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You think about stuff, like like for real, for real,
like how do you really think about stuff? But what
happened with Bork was Democrats had that game on. They
was like, who oh, nigga, we got this, And guests
who opened up the grilling of him, Joseph Robin at Biden,
he'd the dude that grilled him. He the dude that
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supposedly grilled Clarence Thomas but he ain't grilled him hard enough.
But we're not talking about that just yet, right, So
Bork came on and Joe Biden went after him like hard,
like no mercy. This supposed to be softball, because we
didn't already like we all on the same team here, right,
aren't we? We three branches of government?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Nigga know we not?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So he went after him and went after him because
Borck had this law theory that at the time wasn't
so normal, wasn't so pervasive as it is now. He
was what we now know as an originalist, a constitutionalist.
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Before that, nobody knew what this was and what his
theory was. The only true way to interpret and understand
the law is to think of it in terms of
the way that the writers of the Constitution had intended.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
What did they believe this meant?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is the way I Am going to adjudicate anything from
here on out because they wrote it. Now this may
sound familiar to you because it's now it's it's sort
of synonymous with conservative thought.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What the what? What did the founders mean?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'm a strict constitutionalist because and and if and on
the service it's like, well, yeah, nigga, they wrote it.
So like if we are turbet like what am I supposed?
I can't put words in their mouth right now. Look,
if you grew up around any church circles, some buzz,
some buzz should be happening in your brain right now,
because that's that's a theological stance. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
What did the writers of the Bible mean?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
If you've been a man of church, like.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's I mean, that's that's how you're supposed.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
To interpret the Bible.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
You ain't supposed to read your own answer into this,
right unless you come from other traditions that are like no,
you got to have your raim a word you know
that's real black, you know, I mean that's your word
right now. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But again, here's.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Where some of those some of some of the some
of the problems come in if you come from church.
Here where some of the problems come in is like
the church don't tell you. Bible don't tell you about
wearing a watch. Bible don't tell you about what to
do on the internet because it wasn't there. Now you're
gonna get real mad at me, especially when I start
talking about homosexuality. Bible don't talk about it the way
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you say it, talk about it.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm just you just got to read the book. You
don't be mad at me now, I'm just look, I'm
just reading the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But anyway, the point I'm trying to tell you is
the way that this guy's interpreting the Constitution. Again, if
you're talking about this Christian nationalism thing, it would mean
that the way that people read.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
The Bible's probably the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Now, what happens with that you come up with Sometimes
if that's the only way you read your scripture, you're
gonna have a lot of times some very repressive and
backwards and and convenient beliefs that come out of interpreting
scripture that way. Oh man, I'm mean, the same happens
with the Constitution. And in their mind they're saying, well,
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the founders actually built in stuff for the future, for
the things that they didn't understand. That's called the Bill
of Rights, like the amendments the Bill of Rights, or
like are the are the amendments?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So? And Thomas Jefferson is he as a saying around
that or a quote from him where he was just like,
I'm not going to say it directly, but the idea
is like to hold our like future descendants accountable to
our thinking is like making a man where the coat
that he wore as a boy, than to submit him
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to our barbarism.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Basically, he's saying, listen, it's stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
We can't think of, and to make them do what
we did like we don't like look, we knuckle dragon
like men according to what the future is gonna be.
So don't hold them accountable. Don't make them. Do you
know what I'm saying? They don't need to be stuck
to the rules that we thinking of, Like I can't
imagine what the future gonna be like, is what Thomas
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Jefferson was trying to say. So these strict constitutionalists say that, well,
we've accounted for that, and that's in the Bill of Rights,
that's in the the amendments. So you add an amendment
for stuff that we didn't know we was gonna need.
But I'm gonna interpret the documents based on what the
documents say.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Joe Biden was like, Nigga, what the what are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So according to your world, if we're gonna say what
the founders meant, then women ain't voting. We still got slaves.
You can't drink into the same drinking fountain. Nigga like that,
what do you know, bro, Like he's looking at the
thing that Thomas Jefferson said and said, even Thomas Jefferson
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think you tripping. Even the founders think you looking at
this wrong, Like I don't understand what you're talking about.
So they dragged this dude so much so because remember, listen,
this is just a formality before then this process. It's
a formality you're supposed to You supposed to be show
throwing me softballs at allie oops, just for me to flex.
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You know what I'm saying, my prowess and approved to
the home team. Nigga like, oh, I got y'all, like
I can do this. I could do this job. That's
why the President chose me. That's not what happened to
bork and to this day, getting borked is when it's
over before it started.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
We finna come at.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Your head so quick, so hard, so fast, that it's
gonna be over before it started. Nigga'm finna drag you
in front of everybody. It's getting borked. They got a
slang for it. I don't want to get borked at
that like nigga, that's great. Like these people that mannin
Yo chicken coming after you. That kind of set the
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tone for how we do our judges now, right, and
now that it's televised. I mean, y'all saw just the
fury and anger in Bret Kavanaugh's face when he was
getting borked, right, y'all saw that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Y'all saw how well.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Contingent Brown handled it. He's like, y'all, say what, y'all
won't think I'm smarter than y'all. I'm like, if you
can't hear my bias, like hear my bias like she's
a g she cut from an old cloth, you know
what I'm saying. She c cee cee.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
She she old school.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's a little Steve Harvey Reppord. Now see I'm old
school anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Also, in this process of standing in front of Congress
and stuff like, it really shows you to continue to
metaphor about like I don't feel like I need to
explain nothing to you.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Is in the same way that like you know.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
When your children ask you something, It's like, even if
I explain this to you, you wouldn't even understand what
I was saying anyway, cause you wasn't. You wasn't in
the trenches with like you. You wouldn't you need. You
ain't taking a one on one course like I. I can't.
Even if I tell you what I'm doing, it ain't
gonna make sense to you. It's gonna take too much
to explain to you. Sometimes the judges be like sitting
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in front of the Congress, and what sucks is like
but the Congress, right, they check you know I'm saying.
So it's like, you're gonna ask me what I think
about something, You ain't gonna understand the answer anyway. Even
if I'm trying to tell you like this the way
I'm thinking about this thing, you didn't already look, you
just trying to score points with your team anyway. And
even if you were genuinely trying to do this, you
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wasn't in the gym with me. The gym is in
the library, you know what I'm saying. You wasn't digging
in them crates. You wasn't in them archives being able
to understand all these different cases. And he's like a
precedence and how to interpret these precedents. You wasn't outside
with us. So even if I explain to you, yo,
this is where I land on this. I don't understand
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why I gotta go. You ain't gonna get it. It'd
be so interesting watching them try to explain themselves to
people that you know, I ain't gonna understand you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But you know what, that's the job.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Because fast forward to where we are now and what
happens once you get the job. You're gonna have to
explain to the people why y'all chose this. There's one
of the judges gonna have to write what's you know,
their opinion piece, and then the other one writes the
dissenting opinion piece because since they don't always agree, somebody's
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got to say what they don't agree about.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And it's for the record.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
For the record, let me tell y'all, I ain't really
rock with whatever this nigga said. This is why, right,
I got to explain to these people who don't sign
my check or marinate my chicken what I'm thinking about
and how I got there, But how you got there
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and the way you're thinking about this goes all the
way back, like we said last week, as to how
you understand the law and how you came to understand
the law and what you think your purpose is in
this position. You ever hear that phrase activist judges?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That's usually what.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
People say when they don't like the way that the
person is voting. They call you an activist judge. Right,
I just don't know how else you can be on there.
That's that might be a controversial take. Well, the judges
ain't supposed to be political. It's a political process. I
don't I know, it ain't supposed to be, but it is.
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But what's crazy about the Supreme Court specifically? It's like, look,
I ain't gonta explain nothing to you. Let's talk about
Justice Leader and Clarence Thomas. Next.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Y'all don't sign, y'all, don't sign shit. Y'all don't sign
sh sh y'all, don't sign y'all, don't sign y'all. Don't
shine shit. I don't shine by shit.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
All Right, we're back.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So, Glass Thomas is a very interesting character, and by interesting,
I mean this nigga a weird right.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
He is a strange, strange dude. Now if you listen
to the uh we did a Behind the Bastards episode
about him, where his like weird obsession with porn and
his interpretation of what it means to be a black
nationalist or believe in black liberation. It's a weird way
he comes to this. Now, you bring this up because
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of what came out about his private life and then
the way he voted about affirmative action. To understand that
is means you got to understand him. He grew up
dirt poor, His mama had to give him up to
go live with his granddaddy, who was just old school
southern you know what I'm saying, got it out the
mud type fighter, right, And and you come from that
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part of Georgia that he come from and be his age.
Ain't no way in the world he don't believe racism
is real. Right?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
His difference is what are the solutions now?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
But to go back again, raised by his granddaddy, went
to this private Catholic school for a while, obviously got
picked on. You know, you in that white space, you
gonna see racism in an area in a way that
like even I can't relate to. Like, the type of
racism that man experience is something that like is I
can't imagine what this man experienced. And then your solution
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is because of the time and area that he's in
is you become a revolutionary. You start following Malcolm X,
you're like, look, nigga, burn this shit down right. And
some of y'all may not notice, but Claire Thomas used
to be like that type of revolutionary. And what you
might not know about Malcolm X is there's a lot
of stuff about that version of black liberation that in
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some ways mirrors black conservatism in this sense, in a
very unique sense. Not in like a nationalism Margie Taylor
Green type way, no, but it's more like, listen, these
people will never love us, they'll never help us, they
will always look down at us. It's specifically the white liberal.
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Now there is a phrase. There's a thing that Malcolm
X talked about. He was like, be aware of the
white liberal because they don't think they're doing you a favor.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
But it's paternalistic.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
When he moves through this revolutionary type situation, he starts realizing, like, yo, man,
the only way I can't change the system from the outside,
I got to change the system from within. I want
to go do law, but I don't want to just
do law around black issues, because that's still very pejorative,
Like you think I only care about this you don't
think I'm a full person need to be viewed as
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a full person. I want to do all kind of law.
Why you only because that's what happened is like? And
who hasn't experienced this, especially if you're black and you
got some sort of education or every woman understands this
right that whenever they want you to talk, you supposed
to only talk about women issues. They're like, you don't
understand nothing else. So Clarence Thomas was like dog like
every time, y'all when I say I want to do law.
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You think I want to do civil rights, I'm like, nigga,
I like the law period. Like you just saying that
because that's a type of racism. And he say the
same thing happened when he finally got into Harvard, and
in his mind at Harvard, he like, y'all different, y'all
smiling in my face. At least the racism I understood
when I was out in the sticks, nigga, they was
open about it. You niggas like y'all sly about it.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
White people, y'all, y'all, y'all tell me you doing something
good for me. You know what I'm saying. You act
like you doing me a favor, Like I ain't work
my ass off to get here. I don't want your handouts,
and nah, don't do me no favors, No nigga, I'm
gonna get it out the mudd and you doing me
a favor is almost like then, like I can only
get what I got because you gave it to me. Man,
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Fuck all that. That's that type of like black revolutionary
that he kind of come from.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That's the attitude he come from. And look on me.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Don't let nobody tell you Abraham Lincoln or the Union
freed the slaves, nigga, the slaves freed the slaves. We
did that. You ain't give us no civil rights. We
fought for that. Shit on me, like, I'm with that.
We liberated ourselves. We made y'all because you wasn't gonna
do it without us if we ain't make you. He
was like, I feel like I only got these positions
I got because I'm black, And that's you this and
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all the work I put in, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I'm not that smart. He like, I don't want nobody
to feel that way.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
If you get in, it's because you earned it. Don't
do me no favors. I don't trust you anyway. I'm
gonna get it. I'm gonna get whatever I got.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I earned it. That's his attitude about stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So when you fast forward to him being like, man,
fuck affirmative action, Fuck that shit. That's like you like
he think, man, you undermining all the shit I went
through to get where I'm at. He's gonna hand it
to me because I'm black.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Fuck that. That's his attitude because of the way he sort
of came up. Now, if you come up like that,
then when you start getting rich friends, this is your
version of reparations. So his weird rich friend that had
the Nazi collection shit, the rich friend that was like,
I'll fly you wherever you want to go, the rich
friend that bought his mama house because this shit happened.
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And look, I don't know them personally, but I know
when you hear think pieces about that man, his rich
white friend buying his mama house, y'all think that's weird.
That's because y'all not black. It's not weird. It's a nigga.
You owe me. It's because we lose our houses. Mama
can't buy it. I don't want that. I don't want
her to lose. I don want to lean. It's like, no, nigga, yeah,
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buy her house. You know what I'm saying, Yes, remove
my mama's mortgage. She worked too hard for this. That's
what you're supposed to do. You get up, you get
put on. You understand I'm saying. You start moving in
these circles that you never thought you would move in.
You feel me, Yeah, you get on that little private yacht.
He was like, Nigga, I used to pick the cotton
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with my granddaddy. Yes, I'm gonna take this ride. What
the fuck?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Like, why you work so hard? Anyway? I ain't got
nothing to do with my job now. I'm not even
talking about his wife, who even more weird, who's like
fully into the Trump world, which he should have had
sense enough to recuse himself of. Like, obviously, I'm flying
through a lot of this content because I'm assuming you
already know this stuff. I'm just giving you a perspective
on it. He like, listen again, ma, y'all business. If
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you want to know what I'm doing, Nigga, I'm chilling.
I didn't know it was. Excuse me for having friends.
I'm sorry, my friends got money, y'all don't write my checks, y'all,
don't marinate my chicken. Nigga. I'm out with the homies.
I don't have a lot. It's hard having friends. You
a Supreme Court just you can't really have friends. So
if you find somebody that seemed like they don't need
nothing from you, it's like being a star. It's like
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it's hard to find people that don't want nothing from you,
that actually do stuff for you that you feel like,
ain't got no strings attached. Now, this may sound like
a defense, is not a defense. It's an explanation. I'm
just trying to tell you this is a way that
black people look at the world. Sometimes it's like, hell yeah,
I'm a war with these white people. I'm gonna let
these white people buy me everything. They gonna buy my
black ass everything I want. I ain't gonna pay for shit.
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I paid for it in slavery, Nigga. My ancestors paid
every bill I had. You know what I'm saying, Like, no, nigga,
you could pick up the check and pay it forward.
You this personal reparation. That's like the attitude you feel me.
The problem with this attitude in its practicality is it
plays so well with white people, because white people, as
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in white supremacy, as in whiteness, loves to believe it's innocent,
and it loves to believe in the American myth of meritocracy,
knowing full well it's not true even in their own life.
Because you complaining about legacy admissions too, who really taking
up all the slots at your Ivy League schools? Which
(28:57):
is why it is so hard to hear the agent
population bring this to that table, because you should absolutely
stand up for yourself, absolutely, but to think that another
oppressed person is taking seats from you is missing the point.
It's like you're allowing yourself to be weaponized. Now listen,
(29:18):
I'm not asing. I say this very carefully. And you've
dealing with your own prejudice is and your own ways
you've moved through the world. I get it. You should
stand up for yourself. We just feel like, as fellow
oppressed people, that this is friendly fire. These people would
not choose to be next to you. These people do
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not love you. You think if you change this law
they still gonna choose you. They not gonna choose you.
Because this is what I know about why affirmative action
was what it was. It's not so much we're choosing
you because we're black, you're black, we're choosing you. No,
we're considering your blackness as a part of the choice.
I'm gonna give you an example of this. I think
I may have done like a TikTok about this. Okay,
(30:00):
So if you picture those moving sidewalks at the airport, right,
you know what I'm talking about. Like, you know, you
got those long hallways, You got the moving sidewalks at
the airport right. The sidewalk's moving, and that was built
before any of us got there. It's already there, right.
But if you know, there's only so much space on
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that the rest of the sidewalk, the rest of that hallway,
you just gotta walk down. Now, if you're on that
and you walk at a regular pace, obviously, because the
ground is moving, you're gonna get there to the end
of that thing at a faster rate. Rights, that's how
that works. Now, if I'm on the outside of that,
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on the regular ground, walking at the same pace you are,
of course you're gonna get somewhere further.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You got those people that are like psycho that get
on that thing and just stand there they not doing nothing.
They gonna get there anyway because the ground moving them.
Your legacy folks, right, you know what I'm saying. They
just gonna get there and I'll have to try. They
already owned the conveyor belt. Now think about this, and
this is my thing for like y'all, like really hard
working people of color. Is like so now you add
people that come from poverty. You think about it like this.
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What if me on the outside of that moving sidewalk
gets to the end of that thing at the same
time as somebody on it. You know what that means.
That means I'm working harder than you. Why am I
working harder than you? Because I don't have the access
to what you have access to. So if someone walks
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into my application process with the same GPA, with the
same extracurricular activities on paper are the same, but you
ain't have a moving sidewalk, then that teaches me something
about this person. And the only way for me to
know about that that is for me to understand the
fullness of their personhood. That's why I have to think
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about they race so I can understand the fullness of them.
So if you tell me we got the same GPA.
But you this nigga had too. This nigga both his
parents graduated from school. This nigga came from the hood.
This nigga from the South to and when they from
the South, you have to understand how the South work.
Sometimes you get to a place to where these people
(32:13):
are like, I don't care how many degrees you got
at the end of your name. We don't hire niggas.
That is just three. We don't promote women. We just don't.
Why because nobody in my job will will listen to you.
We just don't hire niggas.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's just we just don't.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
There's that right. So if you say this, you take
that person that got the same GPA as you do,
without the access to the to the little that got
to the end of that hallway without the same access
you had, right, and you put that person on the walkway,
they finna mop everybody. If I'm walking at the pace
I was walking, that got me to the end of
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that that hallway at the same time as you without
being on that thing, and then you put me on
a thing. Nigga, I'm finished spank you. Of course, they
don't want you competing with their children. Of course, they're
not gonna, like, aren't you listening. They're not gonna choose
you because you're gonna mop they kids. It ain't the color, cus,
it's so hustle. You don't. That's why I'm like, you
(33:11):
don't understand affirmative action. They're not gonna choose you. Now,
there's a natural part of that. That's like everybody likes
being with who they like being with, right, that's understandable.
If I'm on this, If I'm on this committee, and
your son, who I saw grow up, I went to
his little league games. You know what I'm saying, Like
your son and my son grew up together. It'd be
cool if they went to school together. You know what
(33:32):
I'm saying. Of course, I'm gonna do the homie to favor.
Let's make it even easier. If you were in at recess,
you played with who you played with personal, it's just like, yo,
like we're making soccer teams. I'm gonna pick the homies. Now.
If your teacher come out and say you gotta play
with them with these fools, You're like, I don't. It's
not personal. It's just like, yo, these are my homies.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
If the reason you not playing with them is because
you think they somehow inferior to your ass that they
not smart enough to under staying the games that you playing. Oh, nigga,
that's a whole different story. You think they smell weird.
Oh that's different. Everyone likes being around people they comfortable with.
So my heartbreak about this agent, this particular situation is like, baby,
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they not gonna choose you, one because you'll outperform their kids.
And two they just only like themselves. And the only
reason any of us got in there was because of
these laws.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Now you're done. Take it that away now.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Clarence Thomas says, good, I want to get in on
my merit. And what Ka Tenji Brown says, which is
what I say, is baby, you're not living in reality.
I don't care what your merits are. They not gonna
choose you if they don't have to. And the part
that's so cynical about all this that's so like sadistic,
is this prejudice, this elitist prejudice that locks all of
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us out of their system.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Has the nerve.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
To look at this community that feels like they're not
being treated well and saying, sorry, dude, we couldn't choose you,
because the law says we have to choose the niggers.
The niggers are taking your slot, so we it's not us, guys,
it's the niggers. Like, come on, fam like, but again,
(35:26):
we don't sign the Supreme Court check. They ain't Mary,
we ain't married Nate and Nate Chicken. They'll tell you
what they think. Clarence Thomas told us he was like, look,
I think this is why I think we could do this,
because we need to stop doing this. Man, Black people
like yo, just get your weight up, JENSI Brown, Like,
I don't know a world you live in for you
to think that, like our weight ain't up, Like you're
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assuming we're not as gifted, skilled and talented as everybody else.
And that statement is assuming that nobody got where they
got because of their skills. And she like you, you
ask me like you, you sound just as bad as
they do. Like we know we're we're gifted and sometimes
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more qualified. That this is the point we're making, is
that without affirm of action, it's like our qualifications don't
even matter. And we would love to believe that we
don't live in a world that needs this. That's the goal.
The goal is to not need this. We just clearly
not there yet. Like, don't you get it, bro, that's
(36:37):
the problem. I can't just mosey on in the NASA
and be like hire me because I'm black. No, nigga
have to be qualified, Like yo, don't you understand that
shit work? Like I still have to be qualified for
the job. But if my qualifications match up with somebody
who just as qualified as me, but that nigga had
tutors and you hit granddaddy paid for his school, I
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just want you to consider that. Don't choose me over
him just because just consider it because you know what
that does. That tells you about my character, That tells
you about my ability to overcome adversity. It just tells
you more about me. I just want you to consider that.
That's all firmative. Actually was I'm just saying considerate. But
you know we not marrying Nate Nate Chicken, So we'll
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see what's good.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Next.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I want to talk about justice Alita, and I'm gonna
fly through this quick because it's just more funny than anything.
So since Clarence Thomas had all this heat on him
about what he been doing all his extracurriculars. Apparently somebody
gave Justice Alita heads up that there was a pro
publica article that was finna come out about his situation.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
And normally, like I said, most.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Time, judges be like, the can write your article, you
ain't Marri name my chicken. But he decided to get
out in front of it, and he gave explanations for
all of his stuff and the stuff and the explanations
is the part that's funny to be because my favorite
one was when they called him on or he was
defending himself about taking these private jets slots. If you
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know a private jets work, you can buy a seat
on the plane, or somebody can donate a seat for
you on that flight. His argument is, well, the flight
was taken off anyway, somebody was gonna fill that seat.
I mean, I just I just took them.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
I gave me. I just took the seat.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And then on his like fancy little hunting trip and
the wine he had, he was basically like, well, the
wine wasn't that good and the hotel was kind of mid,
so I guess it kind of don't count, right, Like,
I don't why, It's just it really ain't that serious,
it's really like it wasn't even that good. That's like
(39:21):
cheating on your wife and being like it was just
a little bit of head and it wasn't even that good,
so it kind of don't count. Fam and you and
you're telling her this on the rumor that someone's gonna
tell on you. You figured you get out in front
of it, and your defense is really wasn't that good though,
(39:51):
my lord. Now, the other one I want to cover
is besides the the Navajo water situation, which needs its
own show, but I don't want to like do any
more Native eraser, so I want to cover that. I
want to cover the I want to touch on the
idea of the adopted families of Native kids getting first
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choice for like where to place an adoptive Native child,
Like the people who got first DIBs if you will,
are another tribe in the same way, like in family court,
like you know usually who gets first DIBs is a
related family member. You know they're doing this. I think
(40:40):
in terms of like preserving the culture, it's like at
some point you got to be like, guys, we got
to stop kicking the natives and the balls, like we've
never done right by them. You know what I'm saying Now,
that's assuming the Supreme Court is morally driven rather than
just based on their worldview. The last one I want
(41:01):
to talk about right now is this website case. Now,
what's weird about this case is like, it's not The
situation was hypothetical. Yall. Remember a few years back when
a lady was making cakes and there was a queer
couple that wanted a cake, and a lady was like,
I don't make cakes for the gays and they were like, what,
(41:23):
Like my money, don't spend Like you're not willing. They
were like, it's a conflict. I'm morally conflicted. I don't
want to do this. Boos was like, uh, what do
we You can't just do that? And they're like, yeah,
(41:44):
I can. You know why because this would be called
compelled speech and the government is not allowed to compel speech.
Why do I bring this up? Because it talks about
the strict constitutionalist worldview of how to interpret the law.
If you're just going to go on what's paper, what's
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on paper, you have no roadmap as to what to
do in this situation. The situation was this, It was hypothetical.
This person wanted to make these websites for marriages right
or marriage website right, And they were like, well, we
kind of don't want to do same sex marriages for
our website. And according to them, there was this case
where somebody had requested a thing and they denied them right.
(42:33):
So some journalists looked up this guy in San Francisco
who was on the report that said he requested a
website that fool was like, uh no, I'm in a
straight marriage.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I don't even know what this is right about, which
might be true, might be like, I just think it's funny. Now.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
The point was do I have to make this website? Now?
This is why I bring this back to Bork and
a constitutionalist is because I don't know what page that
would be on.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
It's not on the.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
You're you're cornered because if you're only going with the document, document,
don't talk about websites or capitalism. There's nothing in the
law about capitalism. If you if I give you the money,
you gotta you gotta give me the service.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
And another food was like, no, it's not. It's my
private business.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I sell to whoever I want to sell to, I mean,
And then everybody else is going, yeah, that sounds like
Jim Crow that you're not willing to sell them is
nigg them is white pies. The pie like you, those
pies are only made for white people. That's what you're saying.
I can't my my ten dollars ain't worth ten dollars. No,
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we don't sell the niggers. We outlawed that, didn't We
thought I thought that was I thought that was illegal.
I thought you couldn't do that where there's no roadmap
for this. So how you're going to be a strict
constitutionalist if there ain't no the constitution, don't talk about it.
You got to find something that you think applies to this.
(44:16):
And what they landed on was compelled speech. They were saying,
for this person to make me make this website, is
you're compelling my speech. And the person not getting the
website is like, well, fuck can you? You're discriminating against
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me based on something that is constitutionally protected. I don't
understand what's going on here. And here's the thing. This
is why you shouldn't want to be a judge, because
you're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Figure that shit out. His thing.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I ain't got to answer for you, you know why,
cause I don't know the constitution like that. And they
wrote their papers and they said, this is what we think.
I think it's an ill world. And I don't envy
none of these people. But the only way for us
to understand where these people is coming from, or how
you would even draw that conclusion is you gotta bork them,
(45:17):
and then they gotta write they things, and you just
can't keep functioning on. Well, y'all, don't marinate my chicken
because there's no age.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Who do we call? You're who we call?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
And look, I don't have an answer to this, but
it don't even matter though, you know why, cause I
don't sign they checks and marinate they chicken hood politics, y'all.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Y'all don't sign by check.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
They marinated shit. Y'all don't sign by shall they marinated shit.
Y'all don't sign by shit, marinated shit. Y'all don't sign
by check. Y'all don't sign h they marinated shit. Y'all
don't sign by shall the marinated shit. Y'all don't sign
up by shack mad shit.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Y'all don't sign by check magated.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
You know, I don't know why I ain't thought of
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Like I forgot I owned that company and this is
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(46:18):
If you in the cold Brew, get you some cold Brew,
gonna get you some coffee. Yeah, Like, I can't believe,
I ain't think of this still right now.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Yo yo.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
This thing right here was recorded by Me Propaganda and
East Lows, boil Heights, Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
This thing was mixed, edited.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Mastered, and scored by the one and only Matt Awsowski.
Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible.
Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman for Cool Zone Media. Man,
and thank you for everybody who continue to tap in
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(47:08):
get this thing pushed up in the algorithm and listen.
I just want to remind you these people is not
smarter than you. If you understand city living, you understand politics,
We'll see you next week.
Man, Look, I ain't thinking about y'all at all. You
know what I'm saying. You can miss me. No, look,
y'all can have it.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Man, I ain't Bigmo thinking about you right now. All
gone on with that. These are always of saying, I
ain't really worried about what you're talking about. I'm not
thinking about what you what you I'm not listening, I
ain't thinking about nothing you got to say.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm doing me. You know what I'm saying? You do
you do you?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Boobo?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You do you? Why?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Because I'm gonna do me. I don't worry about what
I'm doing. I don't worry about my plate, worry about
your plate. It's all kind of ways we we got
as a culture to be like, don't worry about what
I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Don't like I ain't got explain nothing to you.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's funny, how like a lot of us know who's
kind of raised like that to where it's like our
parents don't owe us explanations at all. I ain't gotta
explain nothing to you. We just you stay out their business.
You know, none of you don't pay for none of
these bills in this house. You know when you when
you when you're paying for stuff in the house. Maybe
(01:04):
you have a say you like what I say. You
like my grandma used to say, if I say two
plus two is five, you better let me figure it out.
You just don't correct grown folks. You just you mind
your own business. You ain't lived long enough, you ain't
gone through what we're gone through. You don't get a say.
I don't know how healthy that is. I don't know
(01:26):
how toxic it is, because we definitely had to say
definitely went to the room and screamed and pouted and
was like, I ain't gonna do my kids like that.
And then you get kids and you realize really how
good it feels to not have to explain nothing. But
you don't want to repeat you hopefully you don't want
to repeat the same like practices that silenced you. You
(01:50):
feel me, but you get why you be like, you
don't like why I don't owe you anything? Like everything
you got is mine. My mama said, wants to me.
When I was like, whatever I'm gonna leave, she was like, okay,
leave everything I bought. So like, if I'm gonna move out,
and she said, I have to leave everything she paid for.
(02:10):
I like, I ain't even buy my own draws, my
own socks. I was like, So I get now when
a child, especially my child, got the nerve to look
at me and question any of my moves, I'm like,
little girl, on what authority do you think? In what
(02:34):
world do you think you got the right to ask
me anything? You just gonna stand there and be mad
and scroll all on your phone? Oh the phone I
bought using the internet. I pay for up under the
air conditioner I pay for in a room that I
pay for. Listen, you only scrolling on the phone because
(02:57):
I let you have it. You understand I can open
up app right now, turn off the service. What is
you talking about? I get it. But I also understand
that that is very toxic. It's not good. You shouldn't.
You shouldn't do that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if you have a good relationship with your children, at
(03:19):
least is my opinion, then they need to see you
be accountable. They need to be able to, you know,
in a very respectful manner. At least I should be
able to if you ask, give you an appropriate you know,
for your age and your development, reason as to what
I'm doing. And if I'm tripping. I need to be
able to be honest about that and be like, look, dude,
(03:39):
I'm tripping. And hopefully, you know, when they grow up
and they have roommates, you know, or or romantic partners
or friends, that they willing to admit it when they're wrong,
like hopefully for their future friends and their future job
and employers or people that work up under them. Hopefully
I'm handing you I've done my job to hand these
(04:01):
future people in their life a more developed and evolved
human that is willing to admit their mistakes and is
willing to be held accountable and just doesn't repeat toxic
practices of power. So this episode is a part two
(04:23):
about the Scotis, the Supreme Court of the United States.
Does a scotis stands for? If you didn't know that
Supreme Court of the United States scotis anyway, I just
figured i'd let you know that if you didn't already know.
They've been in our headlines for a while over a
few of the things that they've ruled on and also
some of the off mic practices Justice Alita and Justice
(04:49):
Clarence Thomas. So today I'm gonna talk about how they
kind of like they broke their mold and started defending
some of their moves. And the funny part with Justice
a leader, it was like he preempted the defense. You know,
he kind of hit us with what had happened was
and really in a lot of ways like they've never
had to do that. So it's almost to me like,
(05:11):
y'all pride got bruised and you felt like you needed
to explain yourself, But y'all never ever had to before,
the only time Justice is really explained how they feel.
One time they'll actually tell you what they thinking is
when they write their opinions about rulings they just made.
So today I'm gonna talk about Justice Alito, Justice Clarence Thomas,
(05:33):
I'm gonna talk about the affirmative action case and the
like the gay website case that I'm gonna talk about.
All right, already, h you ain't signing my check or
marinate my chicken?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
What I care what you think? Hood politics? Y'all?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
All right, all right, all right, so here we go.
Y'all ain't marinating my chicken. So what I'm worried about, Well,
I'm worried about the people marinating my chicken. That's what
I'm worried about I'm worried about folks to sign in
my check. That's what I need to answer to. Do
you understand the implication? Right? What I'm saying is like,
(06:23):
if you not really, if you're not really the one
that can like make this difference for me, then what
do I really care?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What you think?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I need to talk to the people that matter, right,
and the people that matter historically for judges are the Congress,
because the Congress are the ones that approve whether you
get the job or not. You have to do these
congressional hearings right where you stand up and they or
(06:53):
you sit down and they get to grill you on
things you made. We watched all this happen. We watched
that with Kavanaugh, with Amy co Beart with doctor are brilliant?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What's up? Auntie Katingji Brown?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
As a side note, if you line up the credentials
of who might be most qualified for the job, there's
these two which will be important later, these two wings.
There is one side of like who's got the least
qualifications and who got the most qualifications, especially when we're
talking about affirmative action, and who got the most qualifications
for the job, the most amount of education, the most
(07:26):
amount of experience, the most amount of.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Hours put in.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The most qualified person for this job is doctor KATINGI
Brown the least qualified, ain't hey, Kobe Barrett that if
we're just doing the numbers, so you ask me who's
which one? Sounds like affirmative But anyway, we're into that later.
But you guys have seen these hearings, right, So the
(07:51):
people they answer in question to are those the marinate
they chicken now that used to not be on TV.
Once it started being on TV, the people that marinate
to day, chicken now got an audience, and the audience
is all of America, which means that you know, everybody
behave different when you know a camera on you. I
don't care what you say like everyone does when you
(08:12):
know you being watched, right, I mean, isn't that what
our politics are now? Like dudes trying to like score
a little three minute spot on the news later, Like
so you try to speak in these pithy little clips
you feel me rather than these long flowing logical trains
of thought. You trying to just like get the little
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pifty little clip right that CNN or Fox or whoever
you shooting at can pull out that could get tweeted
by your team.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's what you're hoping for.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And even though this process, again the Supreme Court is
supposed to be the furthest away from the democratic process
because they're supposed to be able to be less beholden
to the whims of the public, because you have to
be new. You have to be able to be fair
(09:03):
and balanced. You know what I'm saying. In your judges,
he's supposed to be like that. However, like we know,
each political silo is trying to score one for their team.
So the way to get laws changed, the way to
get your team more points is you need judges.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right when Roe v.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Wade happened, it was like that was ground zero for
where we at now. The goal was to always get
that change. The only way to get that change is
you're not gonna convince the public got to you gotta
fill the benches. And I'm going back to this man
named Robert Borke because his name became slang it's so
crazy to be right. And then I'm gonna move forward
(09:41):
to what we're dealing with now. So again, so Ronald
Reagan had nominated this dude, Robert Borke, to join the
Supreme Court. Now he was supposed to be this conservative
home home run, like he gonna be our dude. We're
gonna make sure this go down right now. Since again
(10:04):
this became a game of sort of like partisan gainsmanship.
If you put a dude up, it's our job if
we on the other team to drag this nigga, I
need to drag you in public. But remember again, before this,
it wasn't about dragging a person. It was about like
making sure this person was qualified. Well, let me ask
you some question. It was more like a job interview.
(10:25):
When you stood up in front of the Congress, it
was a job interview. It's like I just need to
make sure you are who you say you are. Can
you really do this job? You know?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And I want to know how.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You think about stuff, like like for real, for real,
like how do you really think about stuff? But what
happened with Bork was Democrats had that game on. They
was like, who oh, nigga, we got this, And guests
who opened up the grilling of him, Joseph Robin at Biden,
he'd the dude that grilled him. He the dude that
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supposedly grilled Clarence Thomas but he ain't grilled him hard enough.
But we're not talking about that just yet, right, So
Bork came on and Joe Biden went after him like hard,
like no mercy. This supposed to be softball, because we
didn't already like we all on the same team here, right,
aren't we? We three branches of government?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Nigga know we not?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So he went after him and went after him because
Borck had this law theory that at the time wasn't
so normal, wasn't so pervasive as it is now. He
was what we now know as an originalist, a constitutionalist.
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Before that, nobody knew what this was and what his
theory was. The only true way to interpret and understand
the law is to think of it in terms of
the way that the writers of the Constitution had intended.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
What did they believe this meant?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is the way I Am going to adjudicate anything from
here on out because they wrote it. Now this may
sound familiar to you because it's now it's it's sort
of synonymous with conservative thought.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What the what? What did the founders mean?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'm a strict constitutionalist because and and if and on
the service it's like, well, yeah, nigga, they wrote it.
So like if we are turbet like what am I supposed?
I can't put words in their mouth right now. Look,
if you grew up around any church circles, some buzz,
some buzz should be happening in your brain right now,
because that's that's a theological stance. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
What did the writers of the Bible mean?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
If you've been a man of church, like.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's I mean, that's that's how you're supposed.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
To interpret the Bible.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
You ain't supposed to read your own answer into this,
right unless you come from other traditions that are like no,
you got to have your raim a word you know
that's real black, you know, I mean that's your word
right now. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But again, here's.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Where some of those some of some of the some
of the problems come in if you come from church.
Here where some of the problems come in is like
the church don't tell you. Bible don't tell you about
wearing a watch. Bible don't tell you about what to
do on the internet because it wasn't there. Now you're
gonna get real mad at me, especially when I start
talking about homosexuality. Bible don't talk about it the way
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you say it, talk about it.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm just you just got to read the book. You
don't be mad at me now, I'm just look, I'm
just reading the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But anyway, the point I'm trying to tell you is
the way that this guy's interpreting the Constitution. Again, if
you're talking about this Christian nationalism thing, it would mean
that the way that people read.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
The Bible's probably the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Now, what happens with that you come up with Sometimes
if that's the only way you read your scripture, you're
gonna have a lot of times some very repressive and
backwards and and convenient beliefs that come out of interpreting
scripture that way. Oh man, I'm mean, the same happens
with the Constitution. And in their mind they're saying, well,
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the founders actually built in stuff for the future, for
the things that they didn't understand. That's called the Bill
of Rights, like the amendments the Bill of Rights, or
like are the are the amendments?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So? And Thomas Jefferson is he as a saying around
that or a quote from him where he was just like,
I'm not going to say it directly, but the idea
is like to hold our like future descendants accountable to
our thinking is like making a man where the coat
that he wore as a boy, than to submit him
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to our barbarism.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Basically, he's saying, listen, it's stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
We can't think of, and to make them do what
we did like we don't like look, we knuckle dragon
like men according to what the future is gonna be.
So don't hold them accountable. Don't make them. Do you
know what I'm saying? They don't need to be stuck
to the rules that we thinking of, Like I can't
imagine what the future gonna be like, is what Thomas
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Jefferson was trying to say. So these strict constitutionalists say that, well,
we've accounted for that, and that's in the Bill of Rights,
that's in the the amendments. So you add an amendment
for stuff that we didn't know we was gonna need.
But I'm gonna interpret the documents based on what the
documents say.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Joe Biden was like, Nigga, what the what are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So according to your world, if we're gonna say what
the founders meant, then women ain't voting. We still got slaves.
You can't drink into the same drinking fountain. Nigga like that,
what do you know, bro, Like he's looking at the
thing that Thomas Jefferson said and said, even Thomas Jefferson
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think you tripping. Even the founders think you looking at
this wrong, Like I don't understand what you're talking about.
So they dragged this dude so much so because remember, listen,
this is just a formality before then this process. It's
a formality you're supposed to You supposed to be show
throwing me softballs at allie oops, just for me to flex.
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You know what I'm saying, my prowess and approved to
the home team. Nigga like, oh, I got y'all, like
I can do this. I could do this job. That's
why the President chose me. That's not what happened to
bork and to this day, getting borked is when it's
over before it started.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
We finna come at.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Your head so quick, so hard, so fast, that it's
gonna be over before it started. Nigga'm finna drag you
in front of everybody. It's getting borked. They got a
slang for it. I don't want to get borked at
that like nigga, that's great. Like these people that mannin
Yo chicken coming after you. That kind of set the
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tone for how we do our judges now, right, and
now that it's televised. I mean, y'all saw just the
fury and anger in Bret Kavanaugh's face when he was
getting borked, right, y'all saw that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Y'all saw how well.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Contingent Brown handled it. He's like, y'all, say what, y'all
won't think I'm smarter than y'all. I'm like, if you
can't hear my bias, like hear my bias like she's
a g she cut from an old cloth, you know
what I'm saying. She c cee cee.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
She she old school.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's a little Steve Harvey Reppord. Now see I'm old
school anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Also, in this process of standing in front of Congress
and stuff like, it really shows you to continue to
metaphor about like I don't feel like I need to
explain nothing to you.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Is in the same way that like you know.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
When your children ask you something, It's like, even if
I explain this to you, you wouldn't even understand what
I was saying anyway, cause you wasn't. You wasn't in
the trenches with like you. You wouldn't you need. You
ain't taking a one on one course like I. I can't.
Even if I tell you what I'm doing, it ain't
gonna make sense to you. It's gonna take too much
to explain to you. Sometimes the judges be like sitting
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in front of the Congress, and what sucks is like
but the Congress, right, they check you know I'm saying.
So it's like, you're gonna ask me what I think
about something, You ain't gonna understand the answer anyway. Even
if I'm trying to tell you like this the way
I'm thinking about this thing, you didn't already look, you
just trying to score points with your team anyway. And
even if you were genuinely trying to do this, you
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wasn't in the gym with me. The gym is in
the library, you know what I'm saying. You wasn't digging
in them crates. You wasn't in them archives being able
to understand all these different cases. And he's like a
precedence and how to interpret these precedents. You wasn't outside
with us. So even if I explain to you, yo,
this is where I land on this. I don't understand
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why I gotta go. You ain't gonna get it. It'd
be so interesting watching them try to explain themselves to
people that you know, I ain't gonna understand you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But you know what, that's the job.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Because fast forward to where we are now and what
happens once you get the job. You're gonna have to
explain to the people why y'all chose this. There's one
of the judges gonna have to write what's you know,
their opinion piece, and then the other one writes the
dissenting opinion piece because since they don't always agree, somebody's
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got to say what they don't agree about.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And it's for the record.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
For the record, let me tell y'all, I ain't really
rock with whatever this nigga said. This is why, right,
I got to explain to these people who don't sign
my check or marinate my chicken what I'm thinking about
and how I got there, But how you got there
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and the way you're thinking about this goes all the
way back, like we said last week, as to how
you understand the law and how you came to understand
the law and what you think your purpose is in
this position. You ever hear that phrase activist judges?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That's usually what.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
People say when they don't like the way that the
person is voting. They call you an activist judge. Right,
I just don't know how else you can be on there.
That's that might be a controversial take. Well, the judges
ain't supposed to be political. It's a political process. I
don't I know, it ain't supposed to be, but it is.
(20:35):
But what's crazy about the Supreme Court specifically? It's like, look,
I ain't gonta explain nothing to you. Let's talk about
Justice Leader and Clarence Thomas. Next.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Y'all don't sign, y'all, don't sign shit. Y'all don't sign
sh sh y'all, don't sign y'all, don't sign y'all. Don't
shine shit. I don't shine by shit.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
All Right, we're back.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So, Glass Thomas is a very interesting character, and by interesting,
I mean this nigga a weird right.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
He is a strange, strange dude. Now if you listen
to the uh we did a Behind the Bastards episode
about him, where his like weird obsession with porn and
his interpretation of what it means to be a black
nationalist or believe in black liberation. It's a weird way
he comes to this. Now, you bring this up because
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of what came out about his private life and then
the way he voted about affirmative action. To understand that
is means you got to understand him. He grew up
dirt poor, His mama had to give him up to
go live with his granddaddy, who was just old school
southern you know what I'm saying, got it out the
mud type fighter, right, And and you come from that
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part of Georgia that he come from and be his age.
Ain't no way in the world he don't believe racism
is real. Right?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
His difference is what are the solutions now?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
But to go back again, raised by his granddaddy, went
to this private Catholic school for a while, obviously got
picked on. You know, you in that white space, you
gonna see racism in an area in a way that
like even I can't relate to. Like, the type of
racism that man experience is something that like is I
can't imagine what this man experienced. And then your solution
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is because of the time and area that he's in
is you become a revolutionary. You start following Malcolm X,
you're like, look, nigga, burn this shit down right. And
some of y'all may not notice, but Claire Thomas used
to be like that type of revolutionary. And what you
might not know about Malcolm X is there's a lot
of stuff about that version of black liberation that in
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some ways mirrors black conservatism in this sense, in a
very unique sense. Not in like a nationalism Margie Taylor
Green type way, no, but it's more like, listen, these
people will never love us, they'll never help us, they
will always look down at us. It's specifically the white liberal.
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Now there is a phrase. There's a thing that Malcolm
X talked about. He was like, be aware of the
white liberal because they don't think they're doing you a favor.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
But it's paternalistic.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
When he moves through this revolutionary type situation, he starts realizing, like, yo, man,
the only way I can't change the system from the outside,
I got to change the system from within. I want
to go do law, but I don't want to just
do law around black issues, because that's still very pejorative,
Like you think I only care about this you don't
think I'm a full person need to be viewed as
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a full person. I want to do all kind of law.
Why you only because that's what happened is like? And
who hasn't experienced this, especially if you're black and you
got some sort of education or every woman understands this
right that whenever they want you to talk, you supposed
to only talk about women issues. They're like, you don't
understand nothing else. So Clarence Thomas was like dog like
every time, y'all when I say I want to do law.
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You think I want to do civil rights, I'm like, nigga,
I like the law period. Like you just saying that
because that's a type of racism. And he say the
same thing happened when he finally got into Harvard, and
in his mind at Harvard, he like, y'all different, y'all
smiling in my face. At least the racism I understood
when I was out in the sticks, nigga, they was
open about it. You niggas like y'all sly about it.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
White people, y'all, y'all, y'all tell me you doing something
good for me. You know what I'm saying. You act
like you doing me a favor, Like I ain't work
my ass off to get here. I don't want your handouts,
and nah, don't do me no favors, No nigga, I'm
gonna get it out the mudd and you doing me
a favor is almost like then, like I can only
get what I got because you gave it to me. Man,
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Fuck all that. That's that type of like black revolutionary
that he kind of come from.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That's the attitude he come from. And look on me.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Don't let nobody tell you Abraham Lincoln or the Union
freed the slaves, nigga, the slaves freed the slaves. We
did that. You ain't give us no civil rights. We
fought for that. Shit on me, like, I'm with that.
We liberated ourselves. We made y'all because you wasn't gonna
do it without us if we ain't make you. He
was like, I feel like I only got these positions
I got because I'm black, And that's you this and
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all the work I put in, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I'm not that smart. He like, I don't want nobody
to feel that way.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
If you get in, it's because you earned it. Don't
do me no favors. I don't trust you anyway. I'm
gonna get it. I'm gonna get whatever I got.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I earned it. That's his attitude about stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So when you fast forward to him being like, man,
fuck affirmative action, Fuck that shit. That's like you like
he think, man, you undermining all the shit I went
through to get where I'm at. He's gonna hand it
to me because I'm black.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Fuck that. That's his attitude because of the way he sort
of came up. Now, if you come up like that,
then when you start getting rich friends, this is your
version of reparations. So his weird rich friend that had
the Nazi collection shit, the rich friend that was like,
I'll fly you wherever you want to go, the rich
friend that bought his mama house because this shit happened.
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And look, I don't know them personally, but I know
when you hear think pieces about that man, his rich
white friend buying his mama house, y'all think that's weird.
That's because y'all not black. It's not weird. It's a nigga.
You owe me. It's because we lose our houses. Mama
can't buy it. I don't want that. I don't want
her to lose. I don want to lean. It's like, no, nigga, yeah,
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buy her house. You know what I'm saying, Yes, remove
my mama's mortgage. She worked too hard for this. That's
what you're supposed to do. You get up, you get
put on. You understand I'm saying. You start moving in
these circles that you never thought you would move in.
You feel me, Yeah, you get on that little private yacht.
He was like, Nigga, I used to pick the cotton
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with my granddaddy. Yes, I'm gonna take this ride. What
the fuck?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Like, why you work so hard? Anyway? I ain't got
nothing to do with my job now. I'm not even
talking about his wife, who even more weird, who's like
fully into the Trump world, which he should have had
sense enough to recuse himself of. Like, obviously, I'm flying
through a lot of this content because I'm assuming you
already know this stuff. I'm just giving you a perspective
on it. He like, listen again, ma, y'all business. If
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you want to know what I'm doing, Nigga, I'm chilling.
I didn't know it was. Excuse me for having friends.
I'm sorry, my friends got money, y'all don't write my checks, y'all,
don't marinate my chicken. Nigga. I'm out with the homies.
I don't have a lot. It's hard having friends. You
a Supreme Court just you can't really have friends. So
if you find somebody that seemed like they don't need
nothing from you, it's like being a star. It's like
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it's hard to find people that don't want nothing from you,
that actually do stuff for you that you feel like,
ain't got no strings attached. Now, this may sound like
a defense, is not a defense. It's an explanation. I'm
just trying to tell you this is a way that
black people look at the world. Sometimes it's like, hell yeah,
I'm a war with these white people. I'm gonna let
these white people buy me everything. They gonna buy my
black ass everything I want. I ain't gonna pay for shit.
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I paid for it in slavery, Nigga. My ancestors paid
every bill I had. You know what I'm saying, Like, no, nigga,
you could pick up the check and pay it forward.
You this personal reparation. That's like the attitude you feel me.
The problem with this attitude in its practicality is it
plays so well with white people, because white people, as
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in white supremacy, as in whiteness, loves to believe it's innocent,
and it loves to believe in the American myth of meritocracy,
knowing full well it's not true even in their own life.
Because you complaining about legacy admissions too, who really taking
up all the slots at your Ivy League schools? Which
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is why it is so hard to hear the agent
population bring this to that table, because you should absolutely
stand up for yourself, absolutely, but to think that another
oppressed person is taking seats from you is missing the point.
It's like you're allowing yourself to be weaponized. Now listen,
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I'm not asing. I say this very carefully. And you've
dealing with your own prejudice is and your own ways
you've moved through the world. I get it. You should
stand up for yourself. We just feel like, as fellow
oppressed people, that this is friendly fire. These people would
not choose to be next to you. These people do
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not love you. You think if you change this law
they still gonna choose you. They not gonna choose you.
Because this is what I know about why affirmative action
was what it was. It's not so much we're choosing
you because we're black, you're black, we're choosing you. No,
we're considering your blackness as a part of the choice.
I'm gonna give you an example of this. I think
I may have done like a TikTok about this. Okay,
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So if you picture those moving sidewalks at the airport, right,
you know what I'm talking about. Like, you know, you
got those long hallways, You got the moving sidewalks at
the airport right. The sidewalk's moving, and that was built
before any of us got there. It's already there, right.
But if you know, there's only so much space on
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that the rest of the sidewalk, the rest of that hallway,
you just gotta walk down. Now, if you're on that
and you walk at a regular pace, obviously, because the
ground is moving, you're gonna get there to the end
of that thing at a faster rate. Rights, that's how
that works. Now, if I'm on the outside of that,
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on the regular ground, walking at the same pace you are,
of course you're gonna get somewhere further.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You got those people that are like psycho that get
on that thing and just stand there they not doing nothing.
They gonna get there anyway because the ground moving them.
Your legacy folks, right, you know what I'm saying. They
just gonna get there and I'll have to try. They
already owned the conveyor belt. Now think about this, and
this is my thing for like y'all, like really hard
working people of color. Is like so now you add
people that come from poverty. You think about it like this.
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What if me on the outside of that moving sidewalk
gets to the end of that thing at the same
time as somebody on it. You know what that means.
That means I'm working harder than you. Why am I
working harder than you? Because I don't have the access
to what you have access to. So if someone walks
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into my application process with the same GPA, with the
same extracurricular activities on paper are the same, but you
ain't have a moving sidewalk, then that teaches me something
about this person. And the only way for me to
know about that that is for me to understand the
fullness of their personhood. That's why I have to think
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about they race so I can understand the fullness of them.
So if you tell me we got the same GPA.
But you this nigga had too. This nigga both his
parents graduated from school. This nigga came from the hood.
This nigga from the South to and when they from
the South, you have to understand how the South work.
Sometimes you get to a place to where these people
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are like, I don't care how many degrees you got
at the end of your name. We don't hire niggas.
That is just three. We don't promote women. We just don't.
Why because nobody in my job will will listen to you.
We just don't hire niggas.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's just we just don't.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
There's that right. So if you say this, you take
that person that got the same GPA as you do,
without the access to the to the little that got
to the end of that hallway without the same access
you had, right, and you put that person on the walkway,
they finna mop everybody. If I'm walking at the pace
I was walking, that got me to the end of
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that that hallway at the same time as you without
being on that thing, and then you put me on
a thing. Nigga, I'm finished spank you. Of course, they
don't want you competing with their children. Of course, they're
not gonna, like, aren't you listening. They're not gonna choose
you because you're gonna mop they kids. It ain't the color, cus,
it's so hustle. You don't. That's why I'm like, you
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don't understand affirmative action. They're not gonna choose you. Now,
there's a natural part of that. That's like everybody likes
being with who they like being with, right, that's understandable.
If I'm on this, If I'm on this committee, and
your son, who I saw grow up, I went to
his little league games. You know what I'm saying, Like
your son and my son grew up together. It'd be
cool if they went to school together. You know what
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I'm saying. Of course, I'm gonna do the homie to favor.
Let's make it even easier. If you were in at recess,
you played with who you played with personal, it's just like, yo,
like we're making soccer teams. I'm gonna pick the homies. Now.
If your teacher come out and say you gotta play
with them with these fools, You're like, I don't. It's
not personal. It's just like, yo, these are my homies.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
If the reason you not playing with them is because
you think they somehow inferior to your ass that they
not smart enough to under staying the games that you playing. Oh, nigga,
that's a whole different story. You think they smell weird.
Oh that's different. Everyone likes being around people they comfortable with.
So my heartbreak about this agent, this particular situation is like, baby,
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they not gonna choose you, one because you'll outperform their kids.
And two they just only like themselves. And the only
reason any of us got in there was because of
these laws.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Now you're done. Take it that away now.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Clarence Thomas says, good, I want to get in on
my merit. And what Ka Tenji Brown says, which is
what I say, is baby, you're not living in reality.
I don't care what your merits are. They not gonna
choose you if they don't have to. And the part
that's so cynical about all this that's so like sadistic,
is this prejudice, this elitist prejudice that locks all of
(34:53):
us out of their system.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Has the nerve.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
To look at this community that feels like they're not
being treated well and saying, sorry, dude, we couldn't choose you,
because the law says we have to choose the niggers.
The niggers are taking your slot, so we it's not us, guys,
it's the niggers. Like, come on, fam like, but again,
(35:26):
we don't sign the Supreme Court check. They ain't Mary,
we ain't married Nate and Nate Chicken. They'll tell you
what they think. Clarence Thomas told us he was like, look,
I think this is why I think we could do this,
because we need to stop doing this. Man, Black people
like yo, just get your weight up, JENSI Brown, Like,
I don't know a world you live in for you
to think that, like our weight ain't up, Like you're
(35:48):
assuming we're not as gifted, skilled and talented as everybody else.
And that statement is assuming that nobody got where they
got because of their skills. And she like you, you
ask me like you, you sound just as bad as
they do. Like we know we're we're gifted and sometimes
(36:15):
more qualified. That this is the point we're making, is
that without affirm of action, it's like our qualifications don't
even matter. And we would love to believe that we
don't live in a world that needs this. That's the goal.
The goal is to not need this. We just clearly
not there yet. Like, don't you get it, bro, that's
(36:37):
the problem. I can't just mosey on in the NASA
and be like hire me because I'm black. No, nigga
have to be qualified, Like yo, don't you understand that
shit work? Like I still have to be qualified for
the job. But if my qualifications match up with somebody
who just as qualified as me, but that nigga had
tutors and you hit granddaddy paid for his school, I
(36:59):
just want you to consider that. Don't choose me over
him just because just consider it because you know what
that does. That tells you about my character, That tells
you about my ability to overcome adversity. It just tells
you more about me. I just want you to consider that.
That's all firmative. Actually was I'm just saying considerate. But
you know we not marrying Nate Nate Chicken, So we'll
(37:21):
see what's good.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Next.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I want to talk about justice Alita, and I'm gonna
fly through this quick because it's just more funny than anything.
So since Clarence Thomas had all this heat on him
about what he been doing all his extracurriculars. Apparently somebody
gave Justice Alita heads up that there was a pro
publica article that was finna come out about his situation.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
And normally, like I said, most.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Time, judges be like, the can write your article, you
ain't Marri name my chicken. But he decided to get
out in front of it, and he gave explanations for
all of his stuff and the stuff and the explanations
is the part that's funny to be because my favorite
one was when they called him on or he was
defending himself about taking these private jets slots. If you
(38:39):
know a private jets work, you can buy a seat
on the plane, or somebody can donate a seat for
you on that flight. His argument is, well, the flight
was taken off anyway, somebody was gonna fill that seat.
I mean, I just I just took them.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
I gave me. I just took the seat.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And then on his like fancy little hunting trip and
the wine he had, he was basically like, well, the
wine wasn't that good and the hotel was kind of mid,
so I guess it kind of don't count, right, Like,
I don't why, It's just it really ain't that serious,
it's really like it wasn't even that good. That's like
(39:21):
cheating on your wife and being like it was just
a little bit of head and it wasn't even that good,
so it kind of don't count. Fam and you and
you're telling her this on the rumor that someone's gonna
tell on you. You figured you get out in front
of it, and your defense is really wasn't that good though,
(39:51):
my lord. Now, the other one I want to cover
is besides the the Navajo water situation, which needs its
own show, but I don't want to like do any
more Native eraser, so I want to cover that. I
want to cover the I want to touch on the
idea of the adopted families of Native kids getting first
(40:18):
choice for like where to place an adoptive Native child,
Like the people who got first DIBs if you will,
are another tribe in the same way, like in family court,
like you know usually who gets first DIBs is a
related family member. You know they're doing this. I think
(40:40):
in terms of like preserving the culture, it's like at
some point you got to be like, guys, we got
to stop kicking the natives and the balls, like we've
never done right by them. You know what I'm saying Now,
that's assuming the Supreme Court is morally driven rather than
just based on their worldview. The last one I want
(41:01):
to talk about right now is this website case. Now,
what's weird about this case is like, it's not The
situation was hypothetical. Yall. Remember a few years back when
a lady was making cakes and there was a queer
couple that wanted a cake, and a lady was like,
I don't make cakes for the gays and they were like, what,
(41:23):
Like my money, don't spend Like you're not willing. They
were like, it's a conflict. I'm morally conflicted. I don't
want to do this. Boos was like, uh, what do
we You can't just do that? And they're like, yeah,
(41:44):
I can. You know why because this would be called
compelled speech and the government is not allowed to compel speech.
Why do I bring this up? Because it talks about
the strict constitutionalist worldview of how to interpret the law.
If you're just going to go on what's paper, what's
(42:06):
on paper, you have no roadmap as to what to
do in this situation. The situation was this, It was hypothetical.
This person wanted to make these websites for marriages right
or marriage website right, And they were like, well, we
kind of don't want to do same sex marriages for
our website. And according to them, there was this case
where somebody had requested a thing and they denied them right.
(42:33):
So some journalists looked up this guy in San Francisco
who was on the report that said he requested a
website that fool was like, uh no, I'm in a
straight marriage.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I don't even know what this is right about, which
might be true, might be like, I just think it's funny. Now.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
The point was do I have to make this website? Now?
This is why I bring this back to Bork and
a constitutionalist is because I don't know what page that
would be on.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
It's not on the.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
You're you're cornered because if you're only going with the document, document,
don't talk about websites or capitalism. There's nothing in the
law about capitalism. If you if I give you the money,
you gotta you gotta give me the service.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
And another food was like, no, it's not. It's my
private business.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I sell to whoever I want to sell to, I mean,
And then everybody else is going, yeah, that sounds like
Jim Crow that you're not willing to sell them is
nigg them is white pies. The pie like you, those
pies are only made for white people. That's what you're saying.
I can't my my ten dollars ain't worth ten dollars. No,
(43:56):
we don't sell the niggers. We outlawed that, didn't We
thought I thought that was I thought that was illegal.
I thought you couldn't do that where there's no roadmap
for this. So how you're going to be a strict
constitutionalist if there ain't no the constitution, don't talk about it.
You got to find something that you think applies to this.
(44:16):
And what they landed on was compelled speech. They were saying,
for this person to make me make this website, is
you're compelling my speech. And the person not getting the
website is like, well, fuck can you? You're discriminating against
(44:37):
me based on something that is constitutionally protected. I don't
understand what's going on here. And here's the thing. This
is why you shouldn't want to be a judge, because
you're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Figure that shit out. His thing.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I ain't got to answer for you, you know why,
cause I don't know the constitution like that. And they
wrote their papers and they said, this is what we think.
I think it's an ill world. And I don't envy
none of these people. But the only way for us
to understand where these people is coming from, or how
you would even draw that conclusion is you gotta bork them,
(45:17):
and then they gotta write they things, and you just
can't keep functioning on. Well, y'all, don't marinate my chicken
because there's no age.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Who do we call? You're who we call?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
And look, I don't have an answer to this, but
it don't even matter though, you know why, cause I
don't sign they checks and marinate they chicken hood politics, y'all.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Y'all don't sign by check.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
They marinated shit. Y'all don't sign by shall they marinated shit.
Y'all don't sign by shit, marinated shit. Y'all don't sign
by check. Y'all don't sign h they marinated shit. Y'all
don't sign by shall the marinated shit. Y'all don't sign
up by shack mad shit.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Y'all don't sign by check magated.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
You know, I don't know why I ain't thought of
this before, but you know, you could use promo code
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(46:18):
If you in the cold Brew, get you some cold Brew,
gonna get you some coffee. Yeah, Like, I can't believe,
I ain't think of this still right now.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Yo yo.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
This thing right here was recorded by Me Propaganda and
East Lows, boil Heights, Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
This thing was mixed, edited.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Mastered, and scored by the one and only Matt Awsowski.
Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible.
Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman for Cool Zone Media. Man,
and thank you for everybody who continue to tap in
with us. Make sure you leaving reviews and five star
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(47:08):
get this thing pushed up in the algorithm and listen.
I just want to remind you these people is not
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We'll see you next week.
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