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Hot, Happy Mess. Celebrate your magic in the middle of
life's messes. Hot Happy, I'm serial and this is Hot
Happy made Shoot. Happy Wednesday. If you're listening to this
on the day it drops otherwise, Happy day, Oh, happy day,
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no matter what the day is. What's up, m Z.
This is hot, Happy Mess, and April's almost over. Quick
life update. Life's been busy. April was actually really amazing.
We're winding down. This is like my busiest month of
the year usually between Access Hollywood and filming for American
and JA Warrior. UM. I can't wait for you all
to see the new season. It's airing on NBC this summer,
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and I just feel so blessed and grateful to be
a part of that show. Like, yes, these are ninjas
competing out a course for a million dollars, but that
is the least of it, and that's saying a lot.
What I love most about this show is the stories
we share. I shed so many tears this this month
along with the ninjas and the audience watching, because they're
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just some really special stories of you know, triumph over tragedy,
people define odds, beating cancer and hitting the start line,
losing family members to terminal illness to other things, and
still somehow finding it within themselves to be strong enough
to get up to the start line and run in
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their honor. There have been babies born and marriages and
proposals on set, and it's just, oh my god, it's
it's so much more than a competition show. It really
is a celebration of life and human resilience. And I
know that might sound corny, but it is so true.
And I pray I hope you all will watch and
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tune in because some really special things are are happening
this season and you'll just enjoy it. They do some
crazy stuff, y'all, stuff I could never do. I need
to start stretching. That's my big take away from this season.
The last few months have been wild and crazy for me,
but I am looking forward to summer, to vacations, to
just resting and resetting, because we're all about that best
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life minus the burnout you dig, and it's gotten a
little crazy around these parts, so I'm grateful. I'm a
little sleepy, and I can't wait to just kind of
sit and rest a little bit. So I'm excited for that.
And as you know, if you heard in a recent episode.
We're doing something special on how Happy Mess uh this season.
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me up. I would love to have you, all right,
today's episode is all about plastic surgery, but specifically liposuction
and b We are doing a deep dive into that.
It's it's kind of been a phenomenon right recently in
recent years where I feel like a lot of us
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feel like it's just everywhere and I'm here for it.
If you like it, I love it. It's definitely as
as we talk about safety in this space, like it's
important to make sure that people are informed and empowered,
and I'm just all about empowerment period. Whatever someone wants
to do for their life like, I don't believe I'm
pushing things on people. I don't believe into turning people
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from things. As long as it's not harming someone else.
I'm so live and let live. But I do believe
in empowering people to make informed choices and to do
things that feel good and feel safe, and to do
it in the way that is most ideal and best.
And so even with the bbl of it all, we're
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gonna get into the nitty gritty of this phenomenon, how
it kind of skyrocketed in the last few years, what
it is, exactly, why this doc thinks that it's taken
off the way that it has. Things to think about
if you're considering it, safety issues, recovery, um, what's possible.
But we're getting into the nitty gritty of it for
those who are interested. A lot of you guys have
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expressed curiosity around it about conversations in the space period,
and I am here to serve, So let's get the
convos started. Here's dr speed back. What is up you guys.
Welcome to another episode of Hot Happy Mess. I am
your host, Zurie Hall, and this episode is one that
I am pumped about a lot of you have been
asking about it. Plastic surgery, cosmetic surgery, a little bit
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of this, a little bit of that, right, the nips
and the tucks and all the things. And today we
are doing a bit of a deep dive into it.
I have an amazing doct to hear. Who is going
to break it all down for you. Answer some of
your listeners submitted questions, answer questions I have, UM, and
we're going to talk about everything, including UM, some of
these problematic bbls, y'all, because you see, you see, you
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see them. We all see them. Right. You're like at
the store and it's just like, wait, wow, from the back,
that's the letter P. Wait what is P? The letter P.
It's like, think about the letter P with like I
went for it. Get in there. So that's truly what
it is. Okay. Well, on that note, UM, welcome Dr
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speed back. Uh you guys. We have Ryan Spivack. He
is an amazing doctor. As I mentioned, UM delivers awesome
results that are natural, highly aesthetic. He trained as a
plastic surgeon at the University of Southern California. UM, you're
part of the Integrated Plastic Surgery Residency in l A, Okay,
very awesome and now, UM, you are a part of
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a really amazing, super innovative technique, the Sculpt technique, right like,
breakdown for me exactly what that is, UM, and why
people might even be interested in it, because it's kind
of all the rage right now. So I'm a I'm
a plastic surgeon. I'm one of a group of docs
at a practice called Sculpt Body Shaping UM. It's a
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group of plastic surgeons that started a practice that is
purely focused on awake procedures. Super cool, You're like, how
the heck awake? Let's start with that. And all we do,
we're super specialized center is liposuction and fat transfer procedures.
Those of which are most popular are the T P
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b L the x L b b L fat transfer
to the breast, which we call naturals. And this is
all we do, and we our goal is to take
the excellence and the artistry, combine it with technology and
science and just an amazing experience for each person coming
in and a beautiful customized plan for for everybody. No
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letter p we are no, we are not a letter
piece pe booty factory. I need a shirt mate that
says that UM, I'm glad to hear that, right, because
we all see a lot of those pas running around,
particularly on Instagram and social media. But it really fascinates me. No.
I got to see some of your photos and your
videos of your work before we sat down today, and
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it is so natural. Like I was looking at the
videos and I'm like, wait, how the heck are they
pulling this off? Period? Let alone um with no scars,
and they're oh wait, like wait what? So I want
to get into all of that, but first we want
to get to know you a little bit. So can
we play a quick, rapid fire game. Let's do it. Okay,
what is your go to Starbucks order ice smoke, triple
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shot of espresso, almond milk. Oh see, that's how you
know he's putting in work all day. Triple shot? You
got my god? I mean I am a coffee fanatic. Okay, okay,
I call it. So at the office, I'll be like,
oh my god, guys, I think it's time to orders
gush smushies and everyone's like, what are you talking Like,
It's like I'm talking to my kids. They're like, ash,
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gushy smushing. I'm like, you know, the ice Mocha triple
shot almond milk and everybody, let's do it right. Wow,
I need to try this. We're a fun office to
be around. Okay, alright, I love a vibe. What is
your horoscope? Sign? Leo? Leo? I can see that. I
could see that, like the sort of big, bright, brilliant
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lion with the fabulous main hair perfectly. You know how
happy mess unhappy? We like our guests to good here.
When you have downtime, how do you like to decompress? Okay,
I don't have downtime. I have five kids. My wife
gave birth to twins right before the pandemic. It has
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been a crazy two year run. I am literally going
on our my first trip with just my wife and
I ocabo for three days, the first time in three
years we've gone away. So it's just about like survival mode,
getting through the amazing startup of our practice, expanding it
and just but other than that, a good book and
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a coffee and I'm very happy and you're happy well.
I am glad that you are sharing your knowledge and
your expertise with us today. Um you mentioned the pandemic
and obviously starting a practice right before it. I mean
so many people, so many business owners can relate to that.
I'm curious to know, um one, what the goal was
when you opened up your your your center, your practice.
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And also how has plastic surgery and how have cosmetic
procedures changed if they have because of the pandemic. Because
you know, we were talking a little bit before we
started rolling, it kind of feels like the perfect time.
It just kind of tiptoe away, get some work done,
and show up post pandemic, like what work? What work
did I get done? Okay, so our pandemic life, all right?
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The group of doctors and myself we put all of
like this was our jam, this was our everything. We're
going to do this better than anyone else. We're going
to be the perfect boutique practice, and we're going to
grow this in the right and so two months so okay,
rewind it's March two thousand, twenty right, the pandemic. You
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know it's coming, everyone seeing it. The lockdown happens, I think,
ye here in California we get shut down for two months.
And by the way, we had literally just moved into
our office which is in Agora Hills, Calabasas. It's like
twenty minutes outside of l A. And then we all
had a panic attack, like me. You know, you read
the doomsday scenarios, right, Everyone's gonna die. My wife just
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gave birth to twins. The twins are gonna die if
they get the virus, or maybe not, or maybe it's
all this or maybe that. And so we got shut down.
All elective surgery in California and especially l A County
was shut down for two straight months. So we had
patients booked, they were ready to go. We had to
delay all of that. I literally remember and then the fear, right,
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the fear of the unknown, What's going to happen? And
I remember literally like I put my everything into it, right,
and I'm like the world's going to sink into like
a great depression. No one will ever buy a blessing.
It's going to get like you know. And I literally
was crying every I was like crying every night, miserable, Um,
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just very fearful, you know. But I will tell you
that it motivated us so hard. We were just like, Okay,
we're gonna pivot, We're going to figure this out. We're
going to get through it. You know, someone's gonna want
to look good in some way again at some point
the right and then there was like a pause. You
know what was so cool about it for us is
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it it gave us this like breath for two months
where we're like, okay, let's build it out even better
than we imagine. Let's really get out of the box.
And then let's say, you know, when it does come back,
that we're ready. And so what did that look like
for you? Obviously we're coming out of the pandemic, or
at least you know, the peak of it, the worst
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of it, and you guys are practicing. So what did
that pivot look like? What are you offering right now?
What are patients coming in and asking for? Okay, great,
so okay, first month of this it's crickets. Then, strangely, miraculously,
right in, let's see, right around May one, everybody started
calling for consultations. So we're like six eight weeks in.
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People are going stir crazy. They're like realizing the long
term thing of this, right, it kind of sinks in
and then to my greatest shock, people realize, oh my god,
I always wanted to do something for me. My vacations canceled,
all that's out. The thing I was going to get
married this summer who knows when? Right? Really interesting, So, yeah,
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funds are being loosened up, the weddings are on pause,
the vacations are canceled. You've maybe got a little extra
cash flow and you want to do something for you
and people are transitioning to work at home, right, and
so everyone was like, you know what, it's the perfect
time to get something done. I'm not going to the office.
I don't have to worry about a you know, huge
time off of work. I can actually kind of work
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through it if I confine, you know, if I can
find something that is low down time, super like high tech, amazing,
like where is that thing? Because I want to do
it and I always wanted to do it. And this
wasn't just for us, this was for many plastic surgeons
around the country. It was like game on and all
of a sudden and so my my tears of depression
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became like I couldn't even believe it. But we had
been prepared, we prepared for it. We pivoted really quickly. Okay,
so obviously, you know, post pandemic, your your office is
getting a ton of calls. People are starting to say,
I want this I've got time, I've got a little money,
Let's do it. I'm curious to know, as you sort
of watched how the industry evolved over the last few years,
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what are you seeing most when it comes to trends,
Like obviously we've got the b b ls, we see
a lot of the B shape moodies. As you mentioned, um,
what is most popular these days and why do you
think it's most popular? Well, during that time, you know,
there wasn't a lot to entertain yourself with, so people
were on social media a lot, right, you already have
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like the history of like the Kardashians doing a BBL
and other celebrities, famous folks, different models, and so people
were really looking at a lot of social media and
what other people were doing during the pandemic and you're imagining, oh,
I would love to look like that or everyone has
that mental break, right, And so the trend and it
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was it sort of started before this though, and then accentuated.
The trend was more towards you know, because of that
distinct focus on social media, right, and the transparency that's
one benefit of social media at times. At times there's transparency,
so you can be at home, be like she looks good.
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That's a really natural result. I know she had plastic surgery, right,
but that's kind of what I'm looking for. And then
you see the results that are off the chart, ridiculous,
totally out of portion, overdone, and you're like, that is
definitely not what I want, right, but I want to
do this. And so as a result of that, I
think it's embraced the type of body right and as
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far as natural right natural, So if you're and what
that means is like if you're a full figure, right,
embrace your curves, embrace your thickness right if you are,
And it's kind of that slim thick I've heard slim thing.
I wish I could relate to slim thing. I'm just
your slim, slim, slim slim, your slim slim. I got
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a little something in the back, you know what I'm saying.
I was, I was, I had a little apple bottom
things to my mom, But you don't know until I'm
walking away, but then it's too late. The guys are checking.
But that's the other thing. So so I think it
kind of in some ways, if you had a healthy
perspective on it, you would see women embracing their natural
figure and enhancing it from there, but not trying to
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change drastically. And then you would see women who were
slim slim right who accepted how beautiful they were with
maybe smaller breasts and didn't feel that pressure from the
nineties or two thousand's to just put in breast implants,
the big round things and then slim slim these massive melons. Yeah,
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and it's and it's also important for me to know,
like I'm such an advocate for whatever makes you feel
good if it's coming from a healthy place mentally, and
that's what she decide you want, I am all about it,
you know, to each his own, live your life. Um,
but that was a journey for me to really just
embracing like, this is my body type, this is my
build in a big picture way, right, Like I'm never
going to be the chick with like the massive coke
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bottle or you know, like thick is in right now.
That is not my That's not what God said when
he gave me my assignment. And I embrace kind of
where I am in a general way. But that sometimes
it is very difficult in this age of social media
where all we're seeing constantly is UM this this sort
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of quintessential or what would it be like an amalgamation?
Is that the word did I butcher that guys? I
make up that legitimately the word I makeup words on
this podcast offering UM but this this body right, and
and it's very much UM one specific type. And it
kind of breaks my heart when I see women rushing
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out to say I want that, even if it doesn't
make sense for their body or they or their you know,
their build. UM. So I love that, particularly with your procedure.
It's there's the opportunity to just sort of lean into
or finesse or fine tune kind of what you're already
working with exactly. So basically you have people for the
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first time who had time off working from home, checking
out what's going on in the landscape, can't do anything else,
and like this is a perfect time to do it.
But heck no, I still don't want to go under
general anesthesia. I still want to look natural. I don't
want the whole thing. I still want the quick recovery.
But for the first time, they said, but now I
can actually do it, And so people started searching, and
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that's how people found sculpt because what we specialize in
at the end of the day or awake procedures, avoiding
the risks of you know, general anesthesia and doing a
BBL natural having a flow and be harmonious with the
body or breasts or really head to toe anything as
far as body shaping goes right. So taking that natural
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figure right, I'm telling you people can embrace being full
or figured. Well, let's take a let's make a few
tweaks off of that, but keep that right, or embrace
the skinny part and maybe a little of this or
that right bringing in the curve here. They're even small
things in a global look for somebody can have such
a profound impact of confidence and all that. And and
that's where we really blew up because our results were
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a super super focused on being natural and beautiful and
harmonious and being different than the chop shops and all
the crazy things that you see out there. How do
you pull off and awake procedure? I think it's fascinating
the idea that someone can be in your office, um,
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you know, in the would it be the O R
is it's technically okay, um and literally watching in real
time as as you kind of create these results for them.
That's that's how that happens. So the wake part um
starts with just getting to the office. Everybody's warm and
lovely and reassuring, and this surgeon is nice and kind
and people pay attention to you. Right, that's step one.
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It's always you know, I'm here, I'm actually doing it,
and I'm super nervous, but everybody's so nice. This is
really good. It's it's I've made the right decision. Right,
that's step one. Then you actually get into the procedure part. Right,
So we give a whole you know, cocktail of medication,
mild pain killer, you know, something to help relax you
O xan X. Right. We use laughing gas also while
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we place numbing medication. So basically you're on like you
know for Margaritas on the beach, Margarita the beach. You
pick your own music, right, so you get the vibe
you want. You can either be chill or like, oh
my god, we're doing it. Let's pump it up. So
we kind of match, you know, whatever vibe you want
to roll with. Um, and then you get into the technology.
So here's the thing when you're doing this, right, it's
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every step that you're doing is focused towards comfort and
optimizing every step. It can be done really easily, right.
So we what we have going is we have a
patent pending technology called soft Sculpt and what that is
is a super vibrational LiPo suction system right with super
miniaturized canulus, so really little metal soft tip tubes that
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remove the fat and also do the numbing. And it's
highly vibrational. It's like a symphonic vibration, I would say, right,
And what we do is we then, okay, so you're
chilled out, you got the music right, you're prepped and
ready to go, and you know, we make we numb
this scheme with a little you know, a little air
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injector and stuf of a needle. Again thinking about every
step to make it easier, hurts less. Skin is numbed up.
We do a little perfect hole punch in the skin
and the hole is literally like a millimeter okay, and
then we place the numbing medication under the skin and
that's done with a ton of vibration. This is the
cool part. So there's something called the gate theory of pain. Okay,
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what is that gate theory of pain? What does that mean?
Please get Technically, yeah, it's super cool. So the same
nerves that transmit pain also transmit vibration. So if you
overwhelm the system with like the most gentle yet a
little bit intense a lot of vibration um, the vibration
traffic is up, the pain traffic is down, and most
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people feel like you're just using one of those massage
guns to place numbing medication. So you're chilled out, you're
feeling the vibe, you're feeling reassured. You start doing the
numbing and everyone's like, oh my god, that's like nothing.
And it's an instant numbing we use, and a long
acting one that lasts throughout the procedure, and once you're
numbed up, you're literally fly from there. Okay, got it.
And at that point it's it's pretty much a fat
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transfer or a BBL in the way that one might
be familiar with. Right, what is a BBL by definition? Okay?
B b L is Brazilian belt left? Okay, all right,
you want to hear the cool story about how it started,
Give it to me. Okay. So one of our plastic
surgeons with us, Tony Griffin, awesome, amazing guy, was on
I think you know Access Hollywood. He was on Extreme
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Makeover nineties two thousand's right, Tony was doing an interview
with you know, cable news and um he was one
of the first doctors in the US to take fat
from somewhere in the body and add it to the
bottom to augment and it was actually a technique that
came from Brazil. Okay, so he's like, you know this,
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I kind of so that you know, he's getting interviewed
doing something like us, and he's like, yeah, I kind
of do it like the Brazilians do it b b L.
It didn't even I always started just because Brazilians have
amazing butts, and so it was like I I'll have yes.
So it's because the actual technique developed or became popular
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and popular in Brazil. He brought it here. He's like,
I'm doing it like the Braziliens are doing it. And
then the the interviewer was like, oh, it's almost like
a Brazilian but left boom right and the most insane ways,
it's like how does a word get invented and run
from there? It now has a life of its own.
I mean, you say b b L. If you have
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anywhere I mean you're like, oh yeah, one of the
butt things, right, Okay, that's good to know. I didn't
know it. So talk to me a little bit about
how people avoid like the pumpkin booty. I'm still it's like,
how does that happen? Because sometimes we see the extreme
versions where it's like did they ask for that? Was
that something that they didn't expect and they just woke
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up and had it? Like how does that happen? Why
does that happen? Okay, alright, the pumpkin booty? Yeah, I
could literally do like an hour. I'm going to try
to keep it so brief. It's basically, it's just putting
fat in your butt. Okay, So you go to a dock,
you go under general anesthesia, they remove some fat. It's
not exactly done in the most artistic of ways. It's like,
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let's get this job done. Let's get them in and
out there under general. They've already paid, you know, right,
fat is removed, the patients slipped over, fats removed a
little bit from the back, and then they just you know,
put as much in as you can. But it's not
done with like an artistic like you know, like sensibility, right,
and so what they're doing is they're literally just adding
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the fat to the butt cheeks themselves. They're not blending it.
There's no proportion there's no proportionality. So it's just literally
removed as much as possible from the waist to like
to nothingness. Then we're gonna put all of it right
in that one spot. But there's no there's like cutoffs.
It's like waste is two in and then there's this
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like boulder coming off the booty right, and then it's
like right to the legs and it's like it like
goes like this and then up and then down and
then it's like geometry and glass right, and it's like
but there's no like, there's nothing gentle flowing right. So
the amazing part about the procedures it's sculpt are is
that they're awake. When you're awake, it's like yoga liposuction,
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super small instruments. It's more like a paintbrush. It's not
the jackhammer thing. Right, you're relaxed, you're all numbed up
all the way around. So we turn you every which
way so you're on your back, then you're on your
left side, then you're on your right side. Then you're
on your tummy, and then we're gonna flip back. Let's
check this side. I want to make short matches, you
know what, lift your arm up, boom, a little of this,
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a little twist right right. And so it allows me
to have like a canvas, or any of our plastic
surgeons to have a proper canvas to work on it.
We can make everything flow because we're doing it from
the right angles. It's not all just like rush rush
rush through general anesthesia. Right. What what should people be
thinking about when it comes to safety? Are there concerns
around these sorts of procedures? We hear the horror stories.
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You know. I was speaking with Ca Michelle not too
long ago. She has a show called My Killer Body.
She's been very transparent publicly about her own plastic surgery
gone wrong, the fact that she almost died um because
of bad plastic surgery. So what should people be thinking
about if they are considering plastic surgery or some sort
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of cosmetic procedure. How do we do this safely? Okay?
So I think the first thing you have to do
is you have to check yourself right where you wreck
yourself exactly. That was so good that was so good,
so good. Um, you have to make sure, number one,
you're doing it for the right reasons. It's for you.
I'm quite happy where I'm at, but there's always this
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thing or you know what. I I was bullied as
a kid, and I'm working so hard in the gym
and I'm plateau ing and I've got these genetic spots
and they're stubborn. Make sure it's for you first. Number two,
make sure you're not forcing the issue. I gotta do
this because I have that trip in three months, and
you know what, I got to look good in that
bathing suit. So I have to find someone right away.
I'm going to call the person right up the street.
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I'm not gonna really do research. If they can get
me in, I'm just gonna go and do it right.
So do some research, slow your role right, find the
right people, do the research, find somebody you connect to
on the results end of things. See the doctors online. Again,
another benefit of social media. There's pros and cons, but
at least you can like you have more visibility. It's
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not just a website with a bunch of photos. Okay, great, Um,
So then how do you do it safely? So this
comes up to a huge you know, um safety concern
out there, right. So number one from there is I guess, like,
how do you identify the red flags? Is that what
you're looking for? Right? Like what are the what are
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the like the glaring red flags? So number one is
like the price. Okay, if it's like too good to
be true, there's I can go over the economics of
how this all works. If it's too good to be true,
some corner is getting cut where and it might be
on your body? Wow, So what is too good to
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be true? What price point should we think is reasonable?
And when is the deal just a little too good?
So it's like it's like looking at a flight right
for an airport, Like if the flight's like seventy, then
you're probably on spirit. But well, I don't want to
say that, but there's no peanuts. You gotta pay for
the bags that go in. There's no fault, like you're
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the flight cancels. They don't tell you why you don't
get refunded, Like who knows who's flying the plane? Okay,
Like there's they're cutting it down to that somehow. It's
the same thing with surgery. So if your BBL is
gonna cost thirty bucks. Okay, that means the only way
to mint and it's under general anesthesia. Let me go
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over the simple economics. Let's say it's thirty bucks, right,
you're anesthesiologist for three or four hours is going to
get paid, you know, a thousand of that, right? And
then there's costs for materials, supplies, medications, the anesthesia rugs
which are expensive, the garment that this that that right,
the nursing staff like the electricity to turn the power on. Right, Um,
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that is gonna so the doctor the practice, they're only
making like seven bucks, five hundred bucks, eight hundred bucks, right,
So the only way that works is they have to
do a lot of surgeries. Right. So okay, we're gonna
give the cheapest prices, but we're gonna pump out a day. Right.
Does that make sense? How do you pump out a day? Well,
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you know, if you're if you're signing up for a
huge surgery, whether it's a tummy tuck, Like here's how
it goes. If you're getting a tummy tuck, a B
B L light bo here, a little laser thing, and
all this crazy stuff all in one surgery, it's impossible
for it just to be your surgeon working on you.
There's gonna be assistance, there's gonna be technicians, there's gonna
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be who knows what or who really working on you,
which is terrifying. And you are asleep, so you have
no idea. The veil, it's the black box. Yeah, you know.
They go to nine eight and the lights go out, right,
and so they have to do it fast, right, so
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they're rushing through. Um, you know, it's just let's take
the fat out. Let's take the skin out. Stitch sister,
turn a little, here, a little. They're using huge canulas
right to take canul is like, um, it's like a
little tube with little holes at the end, attaches to suction,
removes the fat. Got it. So they're going to use
the biggest one possible because the biggest one possible is
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going to get it out as much as quick as possible, right,
which is not good for you as the patient, right,
because these massive tubes are just being shoved in and
out of your body. So instead of your body like
my canvas, my beautiful artistry. Right, it's like construction zone. Jackhammer,
get it out, flipped, throw on a hard hat, you know,
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and who knows who's doing what. Maybe there's somebody numbing
one part to your body while the surgeons going over there,
and a mistake can be made, and safety, safety, safety,
and and there's a rush they don't want. You know,
when you're a plastic surgeon, you're working with somebody under.
Timing is always a concern you don't want to. You know,
the longer somebody's under, the higher the risks of blood
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clot problems and things like that. And then that gets
to the BBL safety. So do you know the numbers
on death rate with BBL? No, give them to his
What I see here? One in three thousand can die?
Is that right? Is that a concerning number? Is that reasonable?
I just hear death and think bad, But it's insane,
That's okay. I don't know if that's it's so unreasonable.
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Nobody should die doing any cosmetic procedure. How could anybody
ethically ever, even unless you're like, okay, I'm going to
take that one in three thousand and make it nearly
impossible by taking all of these steps. So check this out.
So my you know my part or who who you
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know in our practice at sculpt His name is Daniel Sweeza.
He actually was part of the task force in plastic
surgery that came up with those numbers. He's the one
that did the stats. He's the one that put all
this together. And it relates to all the factors I
was telling you rushing through surgery, right, injecting the fat
into the muscle of the bottom. Okay, is there any
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fat in your muscle? Okay? So why are you going
to take fat and injected into your butt muscle? Okay?
Makes no sense. It's just not where it is, right.
The problem is there's big blood vessels in the muscle
or really deep under it, and if the fact gets
into one of those, right, it goes to your heart
and that's it. You will literally not make it out
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of the surgery, which is terrible. How does that happen?
Because you're out under general anesthesia, you can't give feedback
to the surgeon. The surgeons rushing, they've got it's this
the whole time, sweating to the oldies. Tired mistakes are
getting made. Let's just get this thing done kind of approach, right,
And you know they think the only way they can
get the result is to do the big old elephant
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booty or whatever you wanna call it the pumpkin results.
And so to get the pumpkin result, they're jamming in
the muscle and here and there, and so there's a
way to do this that doesn't have to involve all
of that. I mean, and you've seen our results, yeah,
I've right. I mean the Instagram profile speaks for itself,
like there's so many amazing videos, reels, photos, and it
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is extremely natural looking. Um, I'm curious to know when
people are doing their due diligence. Do you have recommendations?
Obviously you can go to scope, you can check out
DR's feedback. Um, when people are looking for a surgeon,
what do you recommend they consider before locking in on someone?
Are their websites people should go to? Um? Are there
questions they should ask a doctor before deciding to choose them? Absolutely? So,
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you know, one, find a place that's not the most expensive,
but also not the least expensive. That's up one bracket.
Are we talking for like a BB I mean in
the US, on average it's between ten to fifteen. If
you're adding on other things, it can be more than that. Right,
Our pricing is not the most expensive nor the least
We're kind of in the middle road, maybe even a
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touch higher. So for most of our procedures it's about
fifteen thousand. But then if you wanted to add on
like your arms, and you know, that would be like
the Torso three sixty, right. But then if you wanted
to add on like your arms, it might be a
few thousand more or another area, right. So, but we
try to keep it in a reasonable range. Right. So
that's number one, So you're not finding the cheapest deal
on the planet, right Okay. Number two, Um, when you
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call the office or contact them, nice people should be
on the other side. If nice people aren't there and
they don't know what they're talking about, it's kind of weird.
It should feel good and not stressful or concerned. Me
when you're engaging with so happy you know this is
what we're all about. You should be able to ask
questions and get feedback. Great, And then when you want
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to actually do a consultation, the consultation should be with
your doctor. Amazing concept. Don't you think we're fascinating? Tell
me more? Yeah? Okay, So the thirty places you're you're
dealing with like a secretary, they look at your photos,
they're like, what do you want to do. I want
the you know, here's how you put in your deposit,
(35:21):
here's how we finance it, blah blah blah. And then
and then you're like, but who's gonna my my surgeon
is going to be who? And then they're like, well, um,
we can get you with Dr you know W or
Dr T or whatever. It's like plug and play. Whoever
is available is who you get. And then you show
up and then it's a different doctor, right, and then
you never meet the doctor, and then you meet the
doctor that morning. And what if you're really not a
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good candidate. What if the medical history wasn't reviewed, What
if there's things that could you know, lead to a
bad outcome. Oh my goodness, so much to think about.
But those are really great tips to consider. I want
to talk a little bit, um, bouncing back to the trends. Right,
we talked a little bit about bbls. We talked a
lot about bibls. Obviously that's the big topic here. Um,
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but I'm curious to know what you think just in general,
your your professional and personal opinion on you know, the lips,
Like there are a lot of injectables when it comes
to lips and botox hip dips? Like, what are what
are some of the trends? What are people loving right now?
What are people hating? Okay, let's talk about hip tip?
Have you okay? Sorry? Do you even know what a
hip tip was? So? Like two years ago, I didn't
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two years ago, and I do know, so I first
I know what they are now. But for those listening
who might not know, break it down. What is a
hip dip? Okay? So, like every human being on the
plane hip has a hip tip, had a hip dip
until today everybody has a hip and then all of
a sudden it became, oh my god, I'm afflicted with
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this disease with the tip of the hip. With a
tip of the hip, it's almost like a hip tip,
and it ain't right. You know, called the doctor. This
is an emergency like this, I need emergency plastic surgery
for for my my looks. I got to fill out
my you know, my LULUs or my alo yokas or
like whatever. Right. Yeah, um, So the hip dip is
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literally like the side of the bottom. We're kind of
like concaves a little bit. Yeah, I mean should I
should I demonstrate my hip to show it? Give us
the hip to have, like I'm a I have like
a lamb's booty that just goes straight down. So this
isn't so good, but it's literally the hip tip is
like we're digs in a little here, right, so you
got your hip bone and a little full here and
then it goes you a little groove, right um. And
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so in the world today it became an efliction. Right, well,
it's a trend. We're doing well, right, Well, people treat
it like an affliction. But yeah, it's absolutely just some
people want to not some A lot of people want
to get rid of it these days and just have
what that like coke bottle sort of our glass, like
fill it in. They don't want, you know. And that's
all about like the fitting clothes, the bikini. Some This
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was one of the trends that is a social media thing,
right yeah. I mean it's beautiful to have a hip tip.
Yeah right. It's also you know, I mean, listen, our
business is filling in hip tips. You do a little
light bo above, you bring the hip in, you add
a little there, you fill it out, you get that
perfect flow, right um. But at the end of the day,
it's beautiful if you have it. And it's beautiful if
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you don't. But that one's like super hot. Okay, got it.
It's the slim thick, the slim thick, slimp shoutouts, almost
slimp thicks. I'll just be over here, slim slim. But
that's okay, okay. So that's one trend. What's another trend
that you're seeing these days when it comes to plastic surgery. Okay.
So the other big one is the move away from
breast implants. Okay. So we talked so much about social media.
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I keep bringing up the positive. I'm clearly an optimist, right.
The one amazing thing about social media is the power
of getting a community together, people sharing things that are
going on that maybe isn't didn't offer those same connections
that you could make in the past. So over the
last eight years, an amazing group of women hundreds of
thousands strong now started a Facebook group called Healing Breast
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Implant Illness, and they started to talk about how their
implants were making them sick. Silicone implants, as I'm just
summarizing really quickly, it can cause an autoimmune condition where
you have you know, agches and pains, neuropathy, brain fog, memory,
all these crazy things, and I really highly recommend checking
out breast implant illness. There's tons of resources. Lo and behold.
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Women got together on social media. They realize that implants
were making them sick. They spread the message. Other women
started removing their implants as well with these women, and
people immediately got better. Going back to the original research
on implants, there's clear connections with autoimmune, right, which is
where your body kind of um response to that foreign
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material that's really not supposed to be there, and just
your your immune system goes hey wire and just triggers
a whole mouth. It's like a virus in your computer system. Okay, Okay,
So it's foreign into tea is like attacking your body
at a certain point. And as a result of that,
women are looking for alternatives right to breast implants. And
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so for us, that alternative that we've come up with
is naturals, right, and naturals is a fat transfer the breast.
So we talked a ton about BBL, but just letting
you know, everyone else out there, No, there are other
options to implants, and we're really trying to push that
as an amazing alternative. Got it, Okay, So I love
that I want to do a little rapid fire with you.
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So someone in one questions, So this is just like
first thing that comes to your my and your professional opinion.
How much fat can you remove at one time, like
in one session? Five leaders, five leaders? How much is that? Like?
Is that the size of like a watermelon, a gallon
of milk? It's like twelve pounds a little less? Okay,
twelve pounds Okay, got it? Does the fat ever come back?
Can't it come back? It's a doctor Google thing. Okay, Yeah,
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your fat's gonna come back if you do light bone
you put on like a hundred pounds, right Like, it's
got to go somewhere right, Um, But no, it doesn't
magically like go to your toe knuckle like your hand knuckles,
or your toe, your ear lobes um. If you keep
a good diet, keep exercising, take it as positive momentum,
it won't come back. If you stay stable exactly as
you are, it won't come down. Good. I'd heard that
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when um, the fat does come back, if it comes back,
it tends to go to the places that hadn't been
worked on first. Is that true? Or does it also
just go to what's been worked on. So I had
one person who had that happen to and I've done
almost two thousand procedures exactly this. It was a woman
who had a pituitary tumor removed right, so she had
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to have hormone. So the pituitary gland in the brain
right makes every hormone in your body. So she was
a horn you know nothing, So she had to take
hormones for every single hormone in her body. We treated
like the tummy area in the waist and then low
and behold. It definitely built up more on her upper
back and then we did that and then it was
(42:06):
the end of that. Other than I think that specific reason,
I've never seen it just magically go to another spot. Okay,
got it interesting? Do you have to work out to
maintain results? Um? Yes, okay, I was. I was going
to mess with you and be like, no, no plastic
surgery replaces a healthy lifestyle because something that doesn't require
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me to But you know what, you know, it's so
awesome about that. Some of my favorite patients because everyone
goes to the doctor and they feel like they're going
to be embarrassed if they tell the truth. I'm like,
how's how's your diet and exercises it work for you?
Where are you at? And then I just love the
people that can just fess up and be like, I
hate going to the gym. I don't want to go
to the gym. I want to do this so I
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don't have to go to the gym. I'm like, thank
you for your honesty. Amazing, Right, I can work with that. Yeah, okay, Um,
how much fat is reabsorbed? That's a really interesting one,
like when you pull it, Like how much you actually
have to work with after you pull the fat before
you put it back in? Okay, amazing, So fats removed. Uh,
it's concentrated, processed. It goes through it all in a
(43:14):
sterile system, goes through reverse tubing, is reinjected little micro
ribbons boom boom boom. You fill it out artistry, right um.
For a BBL on average, it's about so the sent
that stays your body grows in like new little capillaries
and blood vessels and makes it your own super cool. Right,
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just doesn't make it and your body like reabsorbs it
with your immune system, right um. For the breast and
especially our naturals procedure breast don't take the fat quite
as well. Right, it's a smaller area. There's not like
as much muscle underneath the booty is the booty, it's
like a big zone. You've got a lot of you know,
action there. So the breast probably about for we'll reabsorb.
(43:59):
I always like under promise over deliver. Right, Um, so
a little bit more consistently consistency with BBL, a little
less with our natural procedure. Okay, got it. What's the
recovery like for liposuction and bbls? Okay, So traditional is
like hit by a truck, right, doing it awake, doing
it the way that we do it. You know, I
would say seven to ten days, right, but it's not
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a seven to ten days like you're crippled in bed,
like uh, you know, like passing me a tea. You know,
because I've had friends, I've had like coworkers come into
work and they're just like zombies, bandaged up, can't sit.
I'm like, how the how are you living? How are
you surviving? And this is like weeks out, like weeks
after the procedure, and it just looks tough, yes, like
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hobbling around like the UK like yeah, yeah, So you're
saying that's not necessarily the case with your procedure, with
the skull procedure. Okay, so after you do it with us,
you're it's not like sharp pain. You know, it's not
crushed like I got hit by a truck pain. It's
you literally, first of all, you walk out of the procedure,
We get you up, you walk right out. Okay, I'm
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feeling Everyone feels so much better once you're done too, Like, whoa,
that wasn't bad at all. You're just super sore, like
a super hard workout at the gym. Sometimes it can
be a little more intense than that and sometimes less
right and as far as return to work, listen, I
always say take seven into seven to ten days, focus
on your recovery. Don't be stressed. Right, But it's not
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a seven to ten days where you're like laying in bed.
You're getting up, you're walking around, you're doing virtual work
from home, you're hitting up a lunch place. In three days,
you know things, just a lay low period in anything.
How soon can you sit okay, the sitting with the
b bl Okay, do you know people, if you you know,
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people come up with like amazing contraptions were like you're
going to get a BBL and your bottom will never
touch an object. These things like three months of my life.
Where do you go for? Is this that amazon? Oh
my god? So you can find there's a there's an
avocado right where you know, like the little pit of
the avocado. It's a full floating right and it's the
(46:12):
perfect little like thing you can lay on and the
butt like fits in where the and then there's like recliners.
There's like mattresses where people cut out a hole in
the mattress so they can like lay fly right a
hole in the mattress. Okay, my mind is in somewhere.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fight. I mean, it's
(46:35):
like arts and crafts. It's like incredible like innovation that people.
I mean, my patients will come right with all this.
It's really just three weeks. We give you a little
like a little foam temper pedic like block with a
nice little pillow thing. You take, you sit on that
for three weeks. You're good to go. The fat doesn't
shift around, it doesn't mash, it doesn't die more. It's
kind of one of those excessive things where it's it's
(46:58):
one of those things you can protect and you can
control as a patient afterwards. Yeah right, and so it's
like I can control I will never sit again. Thus
I will create the most masterful, like you know, incredible
mature humankind to be the best avocado, my avocado. Oh
my god, that is so fascinating to me. I never
(47:19):
thought about the thought and care that could go into
kind of like post recovery that patients can take into
their hands. Yeah, I love it. Um. Okay, so we
have a listener submit a question. They want to know,
can I give my fat to my friends or family? Interesting?
Oh so I get it though, because it's like, okay,
what if what if the friend or family a slim slim?
(47:40):
When what if they need if a thick thick gives
it to a slim sla, I can a thick thick
could be a donor to a slim slim. Even better,
there's a lot of wives that will like would love
to make their husband into a fact growing factory, like
I'll stuff I'll stuff the husband up with like some
McDonald's or like you know whatever. Right, and then you
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can do that and then it just give you the fat.
It can't be done. Okay, it's super dangerous. It seems
like a win win for everywhere, get to eat all
the burgers. We do not have that technology that does
not exist in the wordle probably not end up in
a good place. Yeah, it's super It's like getting a transplant, oh,
like a kidney transplant. And it's even more like your
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body will reject it. So hardcore. Now theoretically and identical
twin could give you the fat. Oh, never been done.
I don't think anybody will ever do that. It's so risky.
No one knows what would really have Okay, okay, so
the answer is no, listeners, don't, don't do Your husband
can't be a fact. Grow you know your sister who
has the different shape than you can and yeah, okay,
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keep dreaming, keep dreaming. Another listeners have made a question,
what about if you get a breast reduction at another center,
can the facility send over your fat so you can
use it for a bbl Okay, amazing question. So when
you get a breast production that kind of like cut
a chunk out right, um, so you'd have to probably
like like chop it up or something. It's really not
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it's really not done because you're taking out breast tissue
with fat and then there's a lot of stitching and
you'd have to first of all do it at the
same time, right, um. And then second of all, if
you did do it, maybe it's like coming from the
side of the breast right to kind of like flatten
that area and then the rest of the tuck tuck
part of it. Right, But yeah, you'd have to like
slice and dice it and then probably it's and it
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probably wouldn't work very well. Okay, Like a soft note,
guys are great, they're fun. Um. The future of plastic surgery,
what do you anticipate will be the next big trend?
You know? More than anything what I see happening is
and I love just embracing our our natural selves, our bodies,
like doing nips, tucks, adjustments where you want to if
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it feels good and it feels right, which I love
that because I'm such an advocate for that whatever feels
good to you. But then also really embracing and working
with what you've got. Um. I think we're also just
over these overly filtered, overly perfected bodies and it's just
like that that goal post just keeps moving. People are
just sick of it. Gen Z especially. I think they
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were born into this weird instagrammy overly filtered world, and
so they're just so desperate for something that feels real
and semi natural and a little bit gritty and more accessible.
Um So that's where I see it going. Is just
kind of like back to the middle. We kind of
got to this really extreme end of the spectrum where
it was like, carve it, shave it, tucket stuff at
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whatever you got to do so that you can look
the same in real life as you do on Instagram.
I feel the pendulum swinging back in a in a
more reasonable direction. I totally agree with you. As as
crazy as social media can make body image become in
you know, out there in people's minds, right, it also
can be good. Like some of the most popular people
(50:59):
on Tiktokker, Instagram or YouTube are like the this is
who I am. Love me, damn it because I love me.
You're here and you're gonna love me because of that, right? Yeah?
And isn't that like such a beautiful thing where you
accept the asymmetries, the curves, the skinny, skinny, the right,
all those amazing things like I think that and that's
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what people love. People love authenticity because they're sick of
the social media that's fake. So if you're actually authentic
and you embrace who you are. So I see actually
a positivity coming out of this for bodies, right, So
I think that's super cool. Yeah. Yeah, the body positivity movement,
even body neutrality is a really interesting concept, um that
I've been talking about with with peers more and reading about,
(51:43):
like this idea, like maybe we just don't have to
think so hard about our bodies period. We we are
grateful for the fact that they keep us alive, and
we treat them as well as we can, and then
we don't give them as much thought. Um so really stuff.
So sorry, I like love that, right, body neutrality, right, Like,
this is my body. I dig it. It's not perfect, Yeah,
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don't hate it, right, you know. And then one day
you're like, well, I could do that one thing, right,
but it's not like, you know, I'm not gonna her brain.
I'm not gonna it's not gonna like change, you know,
it's just for me and it'll be a nice tweak
and wow, I would feel really cool. That would be fun.
That's how it should be exactly. I completely agree with you.
It's the idea of like, oh man, I would love
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to go to Paris for a week, or oh man,
I can't wait to try that steakhouse. If I don't
go to that steakhouse, am I going to die? Am
I going to be thinking about the t bone I
never had until I get it? No? But I really
like steak and it'll be great if I can, you know,
get some time and it can't be too risky to
get to the steakhouse exactly, you know it'll be I've
got you know, a great chef. I'm digging this. Uh
(52:47):
this analogy? Is it? I always mix it up metal,
It's always the food analogies. We've gone through avocados, clearly,
what else do we hit on food? Avocados? There's a
doughnut feeding forest, feeding your husband cheeseburgers so that you
can still fat harvested for your papa. All super casual
conversation here, guys, um dr speedback. If people want to
connect with you, if they want to check out your work,
(53:09):
if they have questions for you, maybe even want to
do a consultation, where can they find you? I love it? Okay,
So our website sculpt body dot com. Okay, our sculpt
is spelled with a Q. That's our jam okay, So
s q U l p T body dot com are
most like, sensationally like. Most visible though is really Instagram
(53:29):
super super easy at sculpt s q U l p
T same thing for TikTok look us up sculpt body
shaping with a que and send a message. We have
a great system. Send a text a d m asks, questions,
consultations are all virtual online. It's an hour with one
of our coordinators and our plastic surgeon. We have you
(53:51):
submit photos, we do simulations, we draw on it, tell
you about everything, and you know, really take amazing care
of you. I'm very proud of that part. I love
it well. Thank you so much for UM giving us
all the goods on the the bbls and ways to
do it safely. UM, this is a really fun conversation,
like talking about plastic surgery because magic surgery. Who would
(54:11):
have thought so many laughs, but also a lot of
important info and I love that. I love that you
clearly love what you do and and have a lot
of fun with it. So thank you so much for
joining me tonight. I'm honored to be here. Thank you
for having me Hi Happy Bet. Thank you again to
Dr Speedback for joining me on Hot Happy Mess today.
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