November 22, 2025 • 16 mins
Usha Vance was spotted out on official Second Lady duties without her wedding ring this week. Couple that, with the recent remarks from hubby J.D. saying he wished his wife would convert to Christianity to the controversial hug between Erika Kirk and J.D. Vance last month, and you’ve got divorce rumors circling the couple. Hear what Usha Vance said in response to all the negativity and why we liked it so much.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, folks, did it Saturday, November twenty second? And the
question on this Saturday is there ever a good reason
to leave behind your wedding ring? Or how about this
as a good reason. I'm the second Lady of the
United States and a mother of three. Give me a
freaking break. And with that, welcome to this episode of
(00:23):
Amy and TJ. I didn't know this was a big deal.
You said you had seen this story other places. I
guess during the week, second Lady out without a ring
and uh oh.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
She was on official duty as second Lady. She was
alongside Millennia. That sounds so weird, yes, second Lady, but
she was in Campbullushoes. So she was there on official duty.
And so to forget your wedding ring when you know
there are photographers, you know there are going to be
cameras following you. That is why it seems suspicious. I
think a lot of times, yes, you could leave your
ring if you're going for a run or you're running
(00:55):
to the grocery store. But she was there and took
the time to get dressed, and took time to get ready,
and so why would she not put on her wedding ring?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Do you, then I didn't plan to ask this or
this early. But if you are this type of public figure,
is this a mistake you probably should not make, just
because it turns into what it has turned into, which
is unnecessary. But it's turned into all these rumor meals
about where they are now in their relationship, but also
causing people to go back and look at every other
(01:25):
aspect of their relationship.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yes, and the answer to that is yes, she should
have known better. She is a very public figure. She
knows she is going to be scrutinized. And look, you
and I have been public figures and had to make
the decision when to take the ring off. When you're
being photographed, you have a camera on you, you know someone
is going to notice, and you know someone is going
to ask questions, and so you have to be in
(01:47):
a place that you're ready to answer those questions. If
you decide to make a very public showing of taking
your ring off.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, some people would also say in response to that, well,
who gives a damn Why does she have to answer
to anybody about her ring? She's a grown woman. Sure
she's in the public eye, but she's still a very
busy mother of three, I get what you're saying. But
to those folks who maybe heard us say that, and
I was saying, well, uh huh, I guess we could
(02:13):
understand maybe what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Of course, she has every right to not answer and
to not care. But you know that if you don't
wear your rings, there are just going to be tabloids
and rumors, and it's just going to fuel those rumors.
And so if you want actually peace for yourself, the
best thing to do is be just careful about those
kinds of things because they will get noticed. Period.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So she did give a response, Our office did give
a response. It's all good. We'll give you the exact
wording of their response. But of course they shut down anything.
But there has been a lot so much out there
about what this means. And I even saw an article
a second ago before we came on talking about how
divorce lawyer's tongues were wagging at some of the stuff
(02:59):
that seeing about this relationship. So this isn't the only
thing I guess about their marriage that's come under scrutiny.
And I swear I was unfamiliar with these other things as.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, So I did not know what sleeping on the
couch was because one of the headlines was that the
Democratic Party's official X account actually revived this meme that
had been circulating in twenty twenty four, sleeping on the couch,
And so I had to do a bit of a
dive on that because it is bizarre. I actually had
(03:31):
to make sure I got it from multiple sources. But
I figure NPR is a pretty safe one.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So many years back, does this go?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
This is just twenty twenty four, Okay, so just last year.
But there was someone on X that made a false
claim that said then Republican candidate jd Vance.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Basically he used a couch to masturbate. Yes, okay, you're to.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Say it, Okay, fine, yes that he It was very
specific y basically masturbated with two couch questions. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I was.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I didn't want to say the way the way they
had written it because it was just too gross.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
This is why these are the times I wish we
had cameras, because you to see her face try to
figure this out, and now she's biting her nails.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
She's still not sure how to Still I'm blushing.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm blushing right now, socause that's why I was struggling,
but yes, Ultimately that was said that he basically had
sex with the couch, to the point that the AP
at one point published an article to debunk the rumor,
and the headline was no, jd Vance did not have
sex with a couch. But that just legitimized the meme.
(04:41):
That just legitimized all the social media fund that was
being had and so then it basically widened the joke.
More people knew about it because peoplere like, wait, what,
so it actually made it worse. So then they actually
ended up taking the article down and said that it
had not gone through standard editing process. They realized they
(05:01):
made a mistake. They shouldn't have basically like normalized or
at least widened the reach for folks to understand that
this was a meme that was going on. By saying
he didn't do something, it made people hear the rumor.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
For the parshole.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
My goodness, dearest, we haven't talked about this yet, but
that exact thing is a debate we have had plenty
and we're having now about when someone actually lies about you,
do you come out there and take down every headline?
But what you're doing is giving everybody license to just
(05:37):
make up the next lie and get attention, and you
end up in a position to where you're spending all
your time just denying things that were just made up
in the.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
First place, and some people will always believe it no
matter what. So yes, an putting that in any more
reach than it already got was a big mistake.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So I guess it didn't help debunk the rumor if
you put the article up and then take you down.
So now it seems like, oh so it wasn't a
legit debunking.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
There is jump on that, then, right, okay?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
If that was the time, this is one time I
have I feel so average event okay.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And then he also stepped in it a little while
ago by basically saying I have the exact words that
he used, but basically saying that his wife, Usha, who
is a Hindu, he is a Christian. He wished that
she would convert, so he said this, do I hope
eventually that she is somehow moved by the same thing
(06:31):
that I was moved in by church? Yeah, I honestly
I do wish that because I believe in the Christian Gospel,
and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it
the same way. But if she doesn't, then God says
everybody has free will, and so that doesn't cause a
problem for me. That's something you work out with your
friends and your family, with the person that you love.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Fair enough, Yes, is that fair enough answer? He wishes?
But is that offensive to her?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Religion is offensive to Is it disrespectful to her to
even ask to have any expectation? I don't know, but
that sounded like a respect lance.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
He was being honest, So he did have to go back,
come back and clarify. He didn't apologize, but he clarified
and said he didn't intend for what he said to
put any pressure on his wife. So he came out
and had to say that because people were upset about
him saying he wishes that his wife would convert to Christianity.
(07:28):
So anyway, that also made people think, hmm, trouble and paradise.
They're having issues about religion. That's a big problem. I
see a riff. So there's been constant rumors now that
they're headed to divorce court.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yes, because she forgot her ring at an event and
the other thing. Again, everybody's scrutinizing everything. When is a
hug more than a hug.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yes, so this is a hug that also sparked problems
in Jade Vance's marriage. So before I did see this,
Erica Kirk and Jade Vance were hugging and it was
on stage in front of everyone, and it was she
had her hand in the back of his head like
almost like she was tossling his hair like intimately, like
(08:13):
it's that is a weird thing for a woman. It's
an intimate way to hug someone. And so it looked
like it looked weird. It did. It looked bizarre to
some how did what did you think? It looked like?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I have a difficult time in those moments snapshots.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Of just moment.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well it wasn't a snapshot, it was there's a video.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I hate to just interpret those moments. I don't know
their relationship, how close they are. I just I But again,
this goes to folks looking for anything with this marriage
and album shocked that that was one thing they're pointing
towards as if that is a sign of a problem
in jad Vans's marriage. Because of where Erica kirk hand
(08:57):
was during a hug, it seems Oh, and people.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Are ruthless online. Ya you know, Usha, you're in trouble.
You know, people just posting it and putting like funny,
kitchy what they think are cute headlines just to get
people to like it and to get clicks. But these
are real people. I don't care if you're the vice president,
if you're a celebrity. These things sting, and you hear celebrities,
you hear folks come out and talk about how much
(09:22):
it actually does affect them and impact them to see
things like this put out there. They can laugh it
off publicly, but it does. It makes you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Where are we then, as a public.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
What should we do with public relationships? Do they're the
second family? Do we scrutinize right their public figures? So therefore,
this is part of it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It comes with the territory. Okay, it does, but it
is always you know, it's interesting to see it's almost
this seems is that people are rooting for their split.
It does seem because of the partisan nature of this
isn't just a celebrity. This is somebody, obviously who a
lot of people fervently support and a lot of people
fervently dislike what you said.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The Democrats have on their So yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
The ones the on their X account. They have a
they revived the memes sleeping on the couch. So it's that,
you know, that does seem to be in poor taste
if we know now that he's referencing JD. Vans a
completely false narrative that JD. Vans wrote about masturbating on
(10:39):
the couch.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Okay, and thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm always can't find the right word, but that's exactly
what I was looking for.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It's in poor taste, yes, to do what they did.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You're making fun of this guy in his relationship in
a personal way.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's just that's tough.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But I do appreciate the way that the second Lady's office,
how they responded to what's happening now in all of
these rumors. Now, I loved it Robes when I first
read it, and then I read the second time, and
by the time I came around to the third I said,
wait a minute, was that okay for them to say
(11:15):
that and say it that way? Well, folks, stay here,
when we come back, we are going to give you
the word for word response and that you decide was
this a good response? Cute response? Funny response, perfect response
or a old response. All right, folks, welcome back, Amy
(11:43):
TJ continuing, Now a ring robes time. What excuses do
you have? What are legit excuses? When can you leave
your wedding ring behind? And it's not a big deal?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, I mean, look, I never want to leave it behind,
but I did recently. You pointed it out. You're like
you and you saw immediately You're like, where's your wedding
or where's your engagement ring? And I was like, oh, oh,
I know where I left it?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So what was it that day?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So I was putting body lotion on, and so I
didn't want to get lotion. I didn't want to gunk
up my ring. So I took it off and put
it right next to the sink and not very far
away from the drain and all of that. But I
usually take it off when I put lotion on.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Okay, when is it okay to be upset with your
significant other for leaving the ring behind? Because things happen
if they do frequently and they just don't want to
wear We're not talking about that. But at what point
could you leave it somewhere and you actually have a
legit cause to be upset with your spots.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I think if Vegas or yes, seriously, I was gonna say,
if you're going on a boy's trip, Oh wow, I
think you can seriously be upset if you're significant Yeah,
I guess your significant other left their wedding ring behind
and you know they're going on like a trip to
go have fun with their girls or guys. Yes, you
(13:08):
could be mad. What do you think Is there a
legitimate reason why you could be mad?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I actually, look, if you are good, if you are
solid in that relationship, and I know anytime you leave
your ring behind, it's I hear the lotion. Fine, I
could be offended that she didn't think enough of it
to put it on. No, because I'm pretty sure when
you leave it behind, you're more upset that you left
it behind than I am. And right, there's something about
(13:37):
it now that seems so silly and petty and small. Really,
if our relationship is going through struggle just because we
can't make it through a weekend of you being in
Vegas without a ring on one finger, then we probably
got the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, I hear you on that, And look, I don't
think i'd be mad. But I think if you already
had other problems, you might be concerned that that was
a delay act and you might not even say anything
or confront the other person, but it'd be in the
back of your head, like I wonder, I wonder, I wonder,
that is what it's just like it starts to erode away.
(14:12):
Trust that's it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh, there are reasons for it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And look the second lady gave her reasons for it,
and I thought, okay, up on first reading, I'll just
give it word for word.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, they response deer okay, oh yeah, I was worried
you didn't have him freak.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I do okay. Usha Vans is a mother of three
young children who does a lot of dishes, gives a
lot of baths, and forgets her ring sometimes.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
How you like that?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think it's honest, That's what I think it is,
because when you're doing all of those things, Yeah, you
do tend to take your ring off because you don't
want to mess it up or have it get in
the way.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
You know what, Again, you take the words right out
of my mouth, and that's the perfect way to say it.
That sounded like an honest answer. Yeah, it was almost
like are you freaking kidding me. She's a mom. Are
the ages eight, five, and three are the ages of
the kids. Yes, she's busy, Yeah she is. So I
thought that was a perfect response, and then I looked
at it again. Yeah, she's forgot a ring, she's been
(15:15):
doing dishes.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, I mean, look, it sounded maybe a little sexist
to some and that, like, look, I'm sure there are
other reasons why. For me, self care is part of
the reason why I would take my ring off as well,
but that is probably the reason why. And she is
a mom of free and she does do the dishes,
probably more than JD. Just guessing that's probably true. She
(15:37):
is probably the one who is giving the kids the baths,
not JD. So he is busy. I get that. So
it's just honest, and I think a lot of women
related to that. I actually saw folks say same, me too,
Like I get it. So I do think it was
incredibly relatable.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Exactly, she nailed it. Uh, oh, he's been out there.
We see her here and there. I know if she's
done interview. Not a whole lot, not a whole lot.
But I was very impressed by this and that response.
And I have been always impressed by her, so I
continue to be so. But do you think just and yes,
they're fine.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I was just gonna say, And turns out everyone just
is speculating because it's clickbait and it's fun. I think
a sport. I think for some people to almost root
for the demise of people they don't like or they
don't agree with. So anyway, that is a sad state.
But certainly it is wonderful to report that the Dvances
are doing just fine and without everyone. Thank you for
(16:39):
joining us. We appreciate you as always, I'm Amy Roboch
alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
Hey, folks, did it Saturday, November twenty second? And the
question on this Saturday is there ever a good reason
to leave behind your wedding ring? Or how about this
as a good reason. I'm the second Lady of the
United States and a mother of three. Give me a
freaking break. And with that, welcome to this episode of
(00:23):
Amy and TJ. I didn't know this was a big deal.
You said you had seen this story other places. I
guess during the week, second Lady out without a ring
and uh oh.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
She was on official duty as second Lady. She was
alongside Millennia. That sounds so weird, yes, second Lady, but
she was in Campbullushoes. So she was there on official duty.
And so to forget your wedding ring when you know
there are photographers, you know there are going to be
cameras following you. That is why it seems suspicious. I
think a lot of times, yes, you could leave your
ring if you're going for a run or you're running
(00:55):
to the grocery store. But she was there and took
the time to get dressed, and took time to get ready,
and so why would she not put on her wedding ring?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Do you, then I didn't plan to ask this or
this early. But if you are this type of public figure,
is this a mistake you probably should not make, just
because it turns into what it has turned into, which
is unnecessary. But it's turned into all these rumor meals
about where they are now in their relationship, but also
causing people to go back and look at every other
(01:25):
aspect of their relationship.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yes, and the answer to that is yes, she should
have known better. She is a very public figure. She
knows she is going to be scrutinized. And look, you
and I have been public figures and had to make
the decision when to take the ring off. When you're
being photographed, you have a camera on you, you know someone
is going to notice, and you know someone is going
to ask questions, and so you have to be in
(01:47):
a place that you're ready to answer those questions. If
you decide to make a very public showing of taking
your ring off.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, some people would also say in response to that, well,
who gives a damn Why does she have to answer
to anybody about her ring? She's a grown woman. Sure
she's in the public eye, but she's still a very
busy mother of three, I get what you're saying. But
to those folks who maybe heard us say that, and
I was saying, well, uh huh, I guess we could
(02:13):
understand maybe what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Of course, she has every right to not answer and
to not care. But you know that if you don't
wear your rings, there are just going to be tabloids
and rumors, and it's just going to fuel those rumors.
And so if you want actually peace for yourself, the
best thing to do is be just careful about those
kinds of things because they will get noticed. Period.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So she did give a response, Our office did give
a response. It's all good. We'll give you the exact
wording of their response. But of course they shut down anything.
But there has been a lot so much out there
about what this means. And I even saw an article
a second ago before we came on talking about how
divorce lawyer's tongues were wagging at some of the stuff
(02:59):
that seeing about this relationship. So this isn't the only
thing I guess about their marriage that's come under scrutiny.
And I swear I was unfamiliar with these other things as.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, So I did not know what sleeping on the
couch was because one of the headlines was that the
Democratic Party's official X account actually revived this meme that
had been circulating in twenty twenty four, sleeping on the couch,
And so I had to do a bit of a
dive on that because it is bizarre. I actually had
(03:31):
to make sure I got it from multiple sources. But
I figure NPR is a pretty safe one.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So many years back, does this go?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
This is just twenty twenty four, Okay, so just last year.
But there was someone on X that made a false
claim that said then Republican candidate jd Vance.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Basically he used a couch to masturbate. Yes, okay, you're to.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Say it, Okay, fine, yes that he It was very
specific y basically masturbated with two couch questions. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I was.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I didn't want to say the way the way they
had written it because it was just too gross.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
This is why these are the times I wish we
had cameras, because you to see her face try to
figure this out, and now she's biting her nails.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
She's still not sure how to Still I'm blushing.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm blushing right now, socause that's why I was struggling,
but yes, Ultimately that was said that he basically had
sex with the couch, to the point that the AP
at one point published an article to debunk the rumor,
and the headline was no, jd Vance did not have
sex with a couch. But that just legitimized the meme.
(04:41):
That just legitimized all the social media fund that was
being had and so then it basically widened the joke.
More people knew about it because peoplere like, wait, what,
so it actually made it worse. So then they actually
ended up taking the article down and said that it
had not gone through standard editing process. They realized they
(05:01):
made a mistake. They shouldn't have basically like normalized or
at least widened the reach for folks to understand that
this was a meme that was going on. By saying
he didn't do something, it made people hear the rumor.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
For the parshole.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
My goodness, dearest, we haven't talked about this yet, but
that exact thing is a debate we have had plenty
and we're having now about when someone actually lies about you,
do you come out there and take down every headline?
But what you're doing is giving everybody license to just
(05:37):
make up the next lie and get attention, and you
end up in a position to where you're spending all
your time just denying things that were just made up
in the.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
First place, and some people will always believe it no
matter what. So yes, an putting that in any more
reach than it already got was a big mistake.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So I guess it didn't help debunk the rumor if
you put the article up and then take you down.
So now it seems like, oh so it wasn't a
legit debunking.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
There is jump on that, then, right, okay?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
If that was the time, this is one time I
have I feel so average event okay.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And then he also stepped in it a little while
ago by basically saying I have the exact words that
he used, but basically saying that his wife, Usha, who
is a Hindu, he is a Christian. He wished that
she would convert, so he said this, do I hope
eventually that she is somehow moved by the same thing
(06:31):
that I was moved in by church? Yeah, I honestly
I do wish that because I believe in the Christian Gospel,
and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it
the same way. But if she doesn't, then God says
everybody has free will, and so that doesn't cause a
problem for me. That's something you work out with your
friends and your family, with the person that you love.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Fair enough, Yes, is that fair enough answer? He wishes?
But is that offensive to her?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Religion is offensive to Is it disrespectful to her to
even ask to have any expectation? I don't know, but
that sounded like a respect lance.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
He was being honest, So he did have to go back,
come back and clarify. He didn't apologize, but he clarified
and said he didn't intend for what he said to
put any pressure on his wife. So he came out
and had to say that because people were upset about
him saying he wishes that his wife would convert to Christianity.
(07:28):
So anyway, that also made people think, hmm, trouble and paradise.
They're having issues about religion. That's a big problem. I
see a riff. So there's been constant rumors now that
they're headed to divorce court.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yes, because she forgot her ring at an event and
the other thing. Again, everybody's scrutinizing everything. When is a
hug more than a hug.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yes, so this is a hug that also sparked problems
in Jade Vance's marriage. So before I did see this,
Erica Kirk and Jade Vance were hugging and it was
on stage in front of everyone, and it was she
had her hand in the back of his head like
almost like she was tossling his hair like intimately, like
(08:13):
it's that is a weird thing for a woman. It's
an intimate way to hug someone. And so it looked
like it looked weird. It did. It looked bizarre to
some how did what did you think? It looked like?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I have a difficult time in those moments snapshots.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Of just moment.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well it wasn't a snapshot, it was there's a video.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I hate to just interpret those moments. I don't know
their relationship, how close they are. I just I But again,
this goes to folks looking for anything with this marriage
and album shocked that that was one thing they're pointing
towards as if that is a sign of a problem
in jad Vans's marriage. Because of where Erica kirk hand
(08:57):
was during a hug, it seems Oh, and people.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Are ruthless online. Ya you know, Usha, you're in trouble.
You know, people just posting it and putting like funny,
kitchy what they think are cute headlines just to get
people to like it and to get clicks. But these
are real people. I don't care if you're the vice president,
if you're a celebrity. These things sting, and you hear celebrities,
you hear folks come out and talk about how much
(09:22):
it actually does affect them and impact them to see
things like this put out there. They can laugh it
off publicly, but it does. It makes you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Where are we then, as a public.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
What should we do with public relationships? Do they're the
second family? Do we scrutinize right their public figures? So therefore,
this is part of it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It comes with the territory. Okay, it does, but it
is always you know, it's interesting to see it's almost
this seems is that people are rooting for their split.
It does seem because of the partisan nature of this
isn't just a celebrity. This is somebody, obviously who a
lot of people fervently support and a lot of people
fervently dislike what you said.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The Democrats have on their So yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
The ones the on their X account. They have a
they revived the memes sleeping on the couch. So it's that,
you know, that does seem to be in poor taste
if we know now that he's referencing JD. Vans a
completely false narrative that JD. Vans wrote about masturbating on
(10:39):
the couch.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Okay, and thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm always can't find the right word, but that's exactly
what I was looking for.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It's in poor taste, yes, to do what they did.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You're making fun of this guy in his relationship in
a personal way.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's just that's tough.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But I do appreciate the way that the second Lady's office,
how they responded to what's happening now in all of
these rumors. Now, I loved it Robes when I first
read it, and then I read the second time, and
by the time I came around to the third I said,
wait a minute, was that okay for them to say
(11:15):
that and say it that way? Well, folks, stay here,
when we come back, we are going to give you
the word for word response and that you decide was
this a good response? Cute response? Funny response, perfect response
or a old response. All right, folks, welcome back, Amy
(11:43):
TJ continuing, Now a ring robes time. What excuses do
you have? What are legit excuses? When can you leave
your wedding ring behind? And it's not a big deal?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, I mean, look, I never want to leave it behind,
but I did recently. You pointed it out. You're like
you and you saw immediately You're like, where's your wedding
or where's your engagement ring? And I was like, oh, oh,
I know where I left it?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So what was it that day?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So I was putting body lotion on, and so I
didn't want to get lotion. I didn't want to gunk
up my ring. So I took it off and put
it right next to the sink and not very far
away from the drain and all of that. But I
usually take it off when I put lotion on.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Okay, when is it okay to be upset with your
significant other for leaving the ring behind? Because things happen
if they do frequently and they just don't want to
wear We're not talking about that. But at what point
could you leave it somewhere and you actually have a
legit cause to be upset with your spots.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I think if Vegas or yes, seriously, I was gonna say,
if you're going on a boy's trip, Oh wow, I
think you can seriously be upset if you're significant Yeah,
I guess your significant other left their wedding ring behind
and you know they're going on like a trip to
go have fun with their girls or guys. Yes, you
(13:08):
could be mad. What do you think Is there a
legitimate reason why you could be mad?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I actually, look, if you are good, if you are
solid in that relationship, and I know anytime you leave
your ring behind, it's I hear the lotion. Fine, I
could be offended that she didn't think enough of it
to put it on. No, because I'm pretty sure when
you leave it behind, you're more upset that you left
it behind than I am. And right, there's something about
(13:37):
it now that seems so silly and petty and small. Really,
if our relationship is going through struggle just because we
can't make it through a weekend of you being in
Vegas without a ring on one finger, then we probably
got the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, I hear you on that, And look, I don't
think i'd be mad. But I think if you already
had other problems, you might be concerned that that was
a delay act and you might not even say anything
or confront the other person, but it'd be in the
back of your head, like I wonder, I wonder, I wonder,
that is what it's just like it starts to erode away.
(14:12):
Trust that's it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh, there are reasons for it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And look the second lady gave her reasons for it,
and I thought, okay, up on first reading, I'll just
give it word for word.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, they response deer okay, oh yeah, I was worried
you didn't have him freak.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I do okay. Usha Vans is a mother of three
young children who does a lot of dishes, gives a
lot of baths, and forgets her ring sometimes.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
How you like that?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think it's honest, That's what I think it is,
because when you're doing all of those things, Yeah, you
do tend to take your ring off because you don't
want to mess it up or have it get in
the way.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
You know what, Again, you take the words right out
of my mouth, and that's the perfect way to say it.
That sounded like an honest answer. Yeah, it was almost
like are you freaking kidding me. She's a mom. Are
the ages eight, five, and three are the ages of
the kids. Yes, she's busy, Yeah she is. So I
thought that was a perfect response, and then I looked
at it again. Yeah, she's forgot a ring, she's been
(15:15):
doing dishes.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, I mean, look, it sounded maybe a little sexist
to some and that, like, look, I'm sure there are
other reasons why. For me, self care is part of
the reason why I would take my ring off as well,
but that is probably the reason why. And she is
a mom of free and she does do the dishes,
probably more than JD. Just guessing that's probably true. She
(15:37):
is probably the one who is giving the kids the baths,
not JD. So he is busy. I get that. So
it's just honest, and I think a lot of women
related to that. I actually saw folks say same, me too,
Like I get it. So I do think it was
incredibly relatable.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Exactly, she nailed it. Uh, oh, he's been out there.
We see her here and there. I know if she's
done interview. Not a whole lot, not a whole lot.
But I was very impressed by this and that response.
And I have been always impressed by her, so I
continue to be so. But do you think just and yes,
they're fine.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I was just gonna say, And turns out everyone just
is speculating because it's clickbait and it's fun. I think
a sport. I think for some people to almost root
for the demise of people they don't like or they
don't agree with. So anyway, that is a sad state.
But certainly it is wonderful to report that the Dvances
are doing just fine and without everyone. Thank you for
(16:39):
joining us. We appreciate you as always, I'm Amy Roboch
alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
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