August 3, 2020 • 50 mins
From boy band superstar to dad advice, Joey Fatone will tell us how men think when it comes to parenting.
He opens up and shares his mistakes and successes and why being a dad is the most important aspect of his life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is How Men Think with broths Like and Gavin
de grab and I heard Radio Podcasts. Welcome to another
episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like.
And last week we had an amazing guest on, Mr
Tyler Rich and we answered listener questions. So we answered
your questions and we love doing those shows. And this
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week we have another special guest on to answer more
of your questions. Last week, it was a lot of
questions from listeners that were about fatherhood, and neither Tyler
nor I were fathers, so we thought, to serve the
mission of the community, we need to bring an out
standing father on to answer some of these questions. So
we have an amazing guest. Everybody is gonna just fan
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girl when I say this name. Here at the moment,
we have an amazing guest on with us. He is
a father, but he has many more things than that
as well. Um. He is a music superstar, a living legend.
He's also an actor, host, a Broadway star, a voiceover artist,
a dancer, media personality, everything you name it. This man
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is from the band in Sync. His name is Mr Joey,
but tone Joey. What's up, Buddy Man? Doing all right?
I'm great, and I guarantee listening in their cars or
in their homes, that the ladies are just screaming and
going wild. Well, hopefully that screaming to lead in their cars.
I don't want to get the little little deaf there,
so make sure it's a a relatively nice scream, but
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not as loud. I hope that loud. You guys deserve
that you deserve that you are a living legend. Dude.
I'm like, I'm gonna get any girl in my phone.
Any friends of mine are gonna send me text messages
as soon as this is over it. I'm here to
help anytime. If I'm here to help, if you need anything,
don't worry about it. No, it's it's great to be
on man, I really appreciate it. It's interesting, you know,
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from from different perspectives from different man and it's it's
fun to be on something like this to get my
perspectives appreciate again. Yeah, and I'm looking forward to getting
your perspective as well, because I've said on to show
many times, I think the greatest, my ultimate destiny, the
greatest thing I could ever do in my life is
be a loving husband and a loving father and I'm
not yet a father, so I always appreciate when we
have people who are fathers on the show. So I
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get to ask to ask questions and and sort of
just armed myself to become a father and prepared to
become a father. But also serves our community amazingly as well.
I also just want to tip my cap to user,
because you are a man of many hats um, and
it's impressive to see you go across industry and have
so many talents. You're obviously known as a performer, but
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you have so many other talents. Yeah, it's it's nice
that so far someone has not told me I sucked yet,
which is good. That's always a good It's always a
good indication that you're doing something right. Um. Also, I
shall say, um, I don't know if you remember it
or not, but we met before. I don't know if
we actually personally met, but we were in the same
room two of our friends, very very very good dancers
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got married. Yeah you got up and sang, um that
was that was and Sasha probably then yeah, buddy, if
you got up and saying and you crushed it and
you lit the whole fun it was. So that night
was so fun. That was a lot that that was
some of it. Tordsend was a little bit of a
bull but yes, it was fun. Nonetheless, UM, I don't
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know if you knew what happened to me that night. Um,
so everybody in the room is professional dancers, including yourself
being on Dancing with the Stars. I think you were
Dancing with the Stars, right yea, So, um, everybody in
the room is a professional dancer, with the exception of
like three of us. And I put on my suit,
put on this nice black suit to come to this wedding,
and I'm like, wow, my suit is a little tight.
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You know, this was a suit from when I was
playing hockey, when I was a little bit leaner. Now
I'm a little stronger. So I'm like whatever, I'll wear
the suit. I'm out on the dance for it's midnight,
just dancing. All of a sudden, it ripped the whole
ass right out of this, right out of the the
whole ask just goes right around right for the watching.
I'm like, oh, dear, gone, nothing wrong with that. Especially
in front of dances. Everybody were like cool, you're up
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to pants keeping going. So I got a quick uber
home change pants and kind of quick uber. No, no,
I didn't know that. That's awesome. Hey, nobody knew that
that's awesome. I only missed about twenty thirty minutes, but um,
you rock the mic that night then it was It
was fun man, Yeah, it's it's you know, it's always
fun to do stuff like that, especially you know when
you're you know when when my fourtast is mostly performing
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and singing, and you know, with Dancing the Stars, I
really don't get a chance to do that in a sense,
but people see me in performing. So but it's kind
of fun to be able to do that for your
friends that are having a wedding and you know, you've
you've you've grown to love and and and it's just
fun to be able to do something like that, to
be able to give the gift like that. So, hey,
it's such it's I think it's soutful to use your
gift to give that gift. Yeah. No, hey, I tried
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it as much as I can. If I can do it,
I'll do you know, I'll do it. You know. Super cool.
So I also I want to get into more of
what you're doing as well. We'll get into that later
in the show. Because you, like I said, you are
your whole thing. You're doing the man many things. You
have a new show, common knowledge, a lot of stuff
going on in your world. So we'll get to that later.
But to serve our community first, I want to ask
you some questions, some fatherhood questions. Um, you have two daughters,
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ten year old and a ten year old. Um yea,
And I don't know if you want to mention the
names or speak about the minute. Chloe Chloe's a ten
year old. Brianna is my nineteen year old. Brianna is
just she finished already her first year of college, which
is crazy to say and have that come out of
my mouth. Uh, She's gonna be starting her second year
coming up, I believe at the end of August. And
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my my ten year old is starting fourth grade uh
in August as well. So they're they're both they're they're
definitely gonna be attending school. UM. I know with the
whole thing with COVID and everything. I think Brianna is
she goes to Michigan State. She'll be going there for
I think up until December and then comes back for
the rest of the year. And since my old my
little one, I should say, goes to private school for
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schooling they're doing where they can either go to school
or opt out of being in school. So what we
want to do is for my daughters, what we're gonna
what we are doing. What we're doing is we're gonna
have our kid, Chloe, Chloe going to school. And if
and you know, and if things aren't that great or
the case would be, we can always pull her out
worst case scenario and still be two at home, but
we'd rather her get the education in the hands on
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things because now the classes are going to be even smaller,
which is great, I think, obviously with the exception of
hopefully for everybody's social distancing, and they're putting plexical I mean,
it's crazy what they're doing, but they're trying to make
it as as normal as they can. So it's been
a it's been interesting to deal with that, especially right
when the pandemic hit and you know, I'm not doing
fourth grade math anymore. And my kid comes up to
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me and says, hey, Dad, don't know how to do this,
And I look at her, going, uh, I don't know either.
Let me find out. You know, you figure it out
or you asked the teacher. You know, I asked my brother.
Is talking my brother about it too. He's got two kids,
and he said he wants to put his son back
in school in the fall too. So it seems like
a lot of places are leaving you the option. Um,
I would probly do the same, try and get them
back in school, just to be the environment and being
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around their friends. And life's gonna look a little bit different. Um,
But that's okay, you know, I think so right right now,
it's again it's just adjusting and hopefully getting back again.
Nothing's ever gonna be hard to percent normal. I don't
think back to normal percent, but again, there will be
some sort of normal ce on certain things in the
way they're going to handle things, I'm sure. And just again,
it's one of those things that like, Okay, let's try
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to reassess the figure out what we have to do
and how we have to do it to make things
work to where we get these kids in education. Yeah, wow, amazing,
awesome brother, Okay, we have we have some questions for you, buddy,
and I'm looking forward to your answers. And just like
doing everything from a father, so our our producer engineer, extraordinary,
Mr Easton is awaiting in the wings with the question Easton,
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what do you got for us? Buddy? All right, let's
get into it. Uh. This first one is from Clara.
She says, guys with kids, how are you surviving this time? Marriage, dating, parenting?
It's all too much? Great question. Yeah, it's th one,
but like how we're very guys with kids, kids come first.
I don't know what does it look like for you?
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It is well for me, it's it's for people. For
for men that are going through what I have gone
through and things that I'm going through now, it's it is.
It is tough. I ain't gonna lie. It's not that easy.
I mean right now, you know. Finally add percent been divorced.
I've been married. I was married for almost dated for
almost ten years and almost married for ten years. So
I was with with with my ex Kelly for almost
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twenty years. Uh. Been has been separated for about two
years now. It's been over about six years now. Been
divorced in a sense separating divorce from about five to
six years now. But it's crazy because it's good and bad.
It's really weird because for what we have now is
you know, a lot of times I do travel, and
I do work a lot, and mostly my ex will
take care of the girls because I do travel. Now
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that my other one obviously is older, she is obviously
a lot more free. She's nineteen, she goes to college. Okay,
with that, get to understand that it's a little bit
easier with the ten year old I right now. We've
been doing it since the pandemic happened. You know, there
were times, like I said, when I work now that
things haven't been happening, and I haven't been working. I've
been taking care of my kids two weeks, two weeks on,
two weeks off, so I'll have my girls, I'll have
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Chloe two weeks on, and like now, the next two
weeks I have off, I don't have them. And also
on top of that, I also have a girlfriend that
I've been dating from the past four and a half
five years almost now almost six actually, uh, And it's
been crazy because the fact that you know, she lives
in l A. And everything's been going on in l A.
She just a couple about a month or so ago.
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She actually flew to spend time with her mom, who
lives about an hour so away from me. So that's
kind of a good thing for me in the best
of both worlds. But the hardest part, I would say
honestly is really juggling that time, but also on top
of that how to avoid and deal with the pandemic
and not you know, okay, my say friends is okay,
my girlfriend's been with her mom, but her mom has
been out maybe somewhere, so I can't really be with
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her all the time. So it's a lot of face
time and a lot of conversation, um, you know, dealing
with the kids. It's it's that day to day basis.
And again, like I was about to say earlier, is
with the math problems. There's certain things that I don't
know and I'm like, Chloe, I don't know what to
tell you, like I don't even know the answer or
how to do this. So and the nice things about
is the teachers have been really helpful during obviously the
school year, so they've been really helpful with the with
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the with the point of like you know, give us
the call or let us know, you know what, we'll
try to help you out one on one. So it's
been a crazy thing for me to juggle because I mean,
think about it, you know, get people always say celebrities, Oh,
you know, you got it easy, and you know you've
got tons of money and you can do this. Okay,
I get that. But when you have a divorce, when
you're dealing with kids, when you're dealing with a girlfriend,
when you're dealing with your own personal things in your
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personal life, and then you go, oh, I have I
have to deal with a career on top of that.
It does take a lot of um compartmentalizing, putting things
in certain places and going okay, I have to deal
with this right now, and then I gotta put that
away and deal and put a new hat on and
put the you know, the dad hat, and what do
I have to do with that? You know? It's it
is so crazy. It's like eighty million things. Especially in
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my ten year old now, it's more or less of going,
you know, to give you a crazy day, it would
be like, all right, we're getting up, you do the breakfast,
you do this, get your bed, I gotta get ready
for this. Oh my gosh, you're going through puberty now,
and your arm pits of this and that. How do
I have this conversation with you when you're ten years
old and you're a girl, But you need to trim that.
But how do I tell you that? And I'm a god,
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it is insane. And that's just at the beginning of
the morning, you know, and then you gotta go throughout
the whole day of other things as well. So it's
the question for me to compartmentalize like that. Do you
do you like, actually make a schedule, like a home
schedule like before nine I'm I'm horrible with schedules. I
will say that because even now me right now, and
I'm learning more and more as I do it, because
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back in the day with the STINC, I was always scheduled.
It was a schedule to do everything you hate you
do this. Now that I have my own time, I
can make my own schedule, I tend to be more
relaxed a little bit more. But I will say, especially
when it comes to the kids, I make sure their
stuff is first and prior before anything that I do. Really,
majority of the time, it's always are you at a
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dentist appotment or you got at school, you got this,
you got that? Let us let that's my that's my
goal for that day. You know, a lot of times,
especially for me, again, it is a little bit easier
for me because when I am home, I don't work
as much period. But now that things can slow down,
I haven't done correct. So it's like almost my whole
year as a wash. And it's like, now, you know,
next year is going to be definitely different because it's
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picking up the pieces as far as working. Common knowledge
is coming back from that kind of stuff. Again, I'm
gonna be in California. How do I deal with my
kids and that as well. So it's again it's a
very um it's never a dull moment. It's never the
same for parents that know that you know, and obviously
we want consistency, we want repetition because it helps them
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in their daily life. I think as they get older
to have some sort of consistency in their life. I
think for kids, you know, and even though you know,
my stuff is a little out whacked, but there is consistency.
Every two two weeks, she goes to to to Kelly
every two we every you know, the next two weeks
she's with me, you know, and we we we kind
of make sure we And that's the other thing I
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make sure I talked to Kelly on getting the same
uh regiment. If you will you know what kind of
foods do they like? What kind of things? I don't
just go off of what I like and what I do,
but I'm always like, you know, what are the things
that they really like and really want to do. So
we're on the same page and when they come over here,
they're getting the same exact kind of thing as they
are in the other household. Because again, my daughter Chloe's
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on the spectrum of autism, not that she's not that
she's not completely disconnected or you know, not verbal. She's verbal,
and she she does talk to people. She doesn't make
a whole lot of my contactical at times, but there
are certain things that do not connect, and that's also
puts a strain on people. And how do you deal
with that and figure that out? And for a while,
I had so much patience when I was young. As
I got older for some reason, I'm like, I have
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no patience for this anymore. And then as I'm getting
even older now you start to realize, Okay, what's the
balance of I have patience for this, but I don't
have patience for this right now. But I need to
take a time to figure it out. You know, that
kind of thing the more. The more dads I talked
to him, we have a couple on the show, Um,
they'll all reiterate the same thing, and it sounds like, what, Um,
what you're saying is that there's no perfect dad, there's
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no perfect way to do it. But we no book,
there's no real book. We leave with our hearts and
we try the best we can and you're gonna make
mistakes except that and know that. And um, but I've
every dad that I've ever met, I've never questioned their
heart and their intention. But they all say, yeah, we're
not perfect, but I love my kids and they'll do
anything for him. So oh yeah, I mean, you know what.
And it's so weird and and it's it's odd for
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me to say this, and I even say and it's
not odd for me I should say. But what what
I'm about to say is is definitely something that I
have learned over the years later on especially being a
divorce family. And even if you're not divorced and you're
still obviously what your spouse and everything is going great,
give the time for your spouse, whether it be the
male or female or whatever. What you're under your roof
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is give that time to say, hey, you know what,
I'm going to take the kids or the kid or
whatever for the weekend, or you know what, you go somewhere,
give each spouse a chance to kind of recharge their batteries,
because nobody's just like you said, nobody's perfect. We get angry,
we can do this, We do that. We all need
downtime to ourselves, whether that be either watching TV all day,
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going to play golf, going to a hotel and reading
a book, whatever. Then that sense maybe in your zen,
I think it does give the other person a break.
And I never noticed that when I was younger, because
I was always traveling within saying my ex was always
with my with the kids, and it was always you know,
well the kids did this and this and that, and
I'm always like, y, yeah, but you can deal with it.
And it's it's not that easy. Everybody there. People realized
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and don't really think that, especially especially when when I
got divorced. I became mom and dad when I got home.
So when I when I'm home by myself, I'm like, like,
legit part of my friendsman, I'm like, oh, I gotta cook,
I gotta get them ready for school. I have to
make sure, the house is you know, livable. Let's be real,
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you know. And again, and I'm not the type of
person that's gonna be like, oh well, I have maids
to do this, I have people to do that. I
don't do that kind of crap. I mean, even when
we had our children, I had a babysitter. I never
had a nanny. And that's just that's just our personal preference. Again,
everybody is different and the way they were raised, it's
just different things. And the way I was raised, you know,
I was raised by my mom and dad, and that's
the way it was. Do we have babysiting, We have babysitters,
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but we were just you know, it's the way we
do it. And again, it's like for me, it's very um,
it was definitely a challenging thing. But I I tell
all people that have been married or still married or whatever,
give some time for your spouse to take a break
to disconnect. Uh and trust me, that person will thank you,
but maybe not by saying thank you, but you'll notice
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in the how they react to certain things, you know.
And again, I know it's tough sometimes and it's not easy,
and you know, we go through different things or who
the hell want to want to watch the kids seven?
You know, when you're working all day Monday through Friday,
nine to five. You know, I get I get it.
But you know what, in the long run, it does
pay off to do stuff like that, whether you're divorced
or whether you're still together. Amazing, man, amazing. Eastern Question
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number two. All right, this is from Erica. How do
men feel about dating when they have kids from our
previous relationship? Do they feel it's important to take the
time to introduce kids to the new relationship. It's tough.
My rule for what what we did, believe it or not.
I don't know if this is gonna work for everybody,
but I can only speak for myself. Is we had
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it to where we? You know, again, people are still dating,
and when you get divorced, people date other people and
you don't never know that person is going to be
there all the time. And you don't want to introduce
your kids to somebody that maybe for there for one
week and then a new person is gonna be there
the next week. You know, you don't You don't want
to kind of have that That thing so mine was
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is after two years of dating, is when I introduced
my kids to my girlfriend. Not I waited almost two years.
I waited just to know that it's going to be right.
That's the difference, because again, somebody can be there for
you know, six months, and everything could be great, but
something can go left field, and say, for instance, that
you know that child has an attachment to that that
that other person now and becomes some sort of a
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stepmother or stepfather, and then all of a sudden things
don't work out and you pull that from the kid too.
I think personally, I think it's a time to give
a chance to make sure you're really in this relationship
with that person. So my one time, the pretty funny
thing was is I was dating Isabel at the time,
and my buddy, my friend Matt, came with me to
go to the movies, and my older daughter, who was
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still younger at the time, came with us, and I obviously,
you know, tried to honor as much as I can
to make sure that things were distant, and they didn't
know until I was really serious with this girl. And
in the movie theater, I was like, oh, yeah, Brianna,
this is Matt. You know, my buddy Matt, and this
is his girlfriend. And Matt and my daughter kept looking
as she got all the going there's no way in
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hell that Matt was dating that girl, No way, because
he's like he's like a Tom Young, like a young
goofy Tom Hanks kind of thing. And then you have
you know, Isabel, who's this tall, beautiful Brazilian. So it's
it's a areas how that whole thing, you know, you know,
it goes down. But again for me, it was like,
I want to make sure that I'm in this with
her before they meet my kids, you know, And I
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think for me that's when I did that. But you know,
again to each his own, toever. You know, sometimes people
fall in love, they move in very quickly and that's
that's that's their that's their bag, that's what they like.
But for me, I know that I would take the
time before I introduce my significant other to my kids
because again that's a hard thing, especially depending on the
age as well. Like my little one really doesn't know
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as much. It didn't really know as I didn't know.
They're not stupid. Let's be real here, kids are not stupid.
They they will they will see things and they will
know things. And even like sometimes you know, as she
was getting a little older and I was dating Isabelle,
there has been questions like legit, like you know, uh,
you know you still married to mommy? Do you still
love mommy? And you kind of go, yeah, we still
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love each other, but we're just not together in a relationship.
We're always still gonna be there for each other. We're
always gonna be there for you. And it's a tough
it's a it's it's not an easy thing to kind
of talk about it, especially when the kids can't understand
it or they don't grasp you know. They're they're taught
to love one another, to love people, and if you
really care about that person, you know, maybe you get
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married with them and you have kids with them, and
that's that's the that's the thing. It's never, well, what
happens if you get married or you're together and you
guys really really don't really see eye to eye anymore?
And how does that work when you actually go through
a separation or divorce or not being with them. So
it's hard to really explain that to kids. But as
they get older, they do start to understand and they
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have I think for me, they have a little bit
of appreciation of how me and Kelly kind of handled
what we did as far as going into that with
our children. Amazing. Yeah, two years is long. I I
wouldn't guess, obviously, because I'm not in that situation. Maybe
off the top of my head and maybe would have
guessed like four or six months. But like the fact
that you were that thorough, that thorough, Like I really
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just as you how much you love and want to
protect a few daughters because you don't know. Yeah, especially
in a situation that I'm in. You don't know what
the what the what the reasoning of whatever. The girl
that I just say side I decided to meet or
whatever has a different intention you don't. I don't know,
So I want to make sure that it's legit, it's real.
It's not like, you know, a flash in the pan.
It could have been a rebounder. You don't know. You
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know again, you never know until you really go Okay,
that's the person I really want to be with for
for the rest of my life or for a really
long time, and I want them to be a part
of my life with my children. Yeah. Wow, great answer,
Thanks Joy, he said, you got another one. Yes, this
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is from anonymous how do dads cope with their daughters
or sons that are getting older and leaving the house
and starting their own lives. How do you navigate that transition?
I said, Brianna, get the hell out. No, I'm kidding.
I bought it. Get the hell out. You know what's
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so funny, there's there's different there's different kids. Kids are
gonna be different, um like for instance, and again, it's
interesting how dynamic and how different my daughters are from
each other. Where you have Brianna, who is never really
a hugger. She'll hug you and stuff, but never hug strangers.
She was never like even the type to give a hug.
To my parents. We would tell her, you know, all right, yeah,
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lean over and and and and give your forehead basically
because she would go to hug, but she would just
lean her forehead to her shoulder, never wrap their arms
or even like my parents, her grandparents, she was there
like that. Chloe's a different story. Chloe hugs and loves everyone.
And the reason why I saying that is with Brianne.
With Brianna, my older one, she was excited and ready
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at the house, not like you're like, oh my god,
I can't wait to get out of you drive me crazy.
It's more or less of I really want to go
into the world, and I think we have I think
I'd like to say and think that we did a
good job on prepping her to be smart about things,
to be independent, to be an independent person, and not
really rely on other people all the time, because there
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are times that people are you know, it's it's just
it's a true fact. Everybody is never not everyone's always
gonna be there for you. It may happen a lot
of times, but not everybody is always gonna be So
how do you think for yourself? You know. So it's
funny to watch her because, especially in college, when she
has a roommate and she's in the dorm and it's
almost like not that she's bathing the roommate, but she
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has that motherly I guess feeling instinct, yeah, instincts where
she's like, oh my god, I had to clean the
room today, or I have my god, this was messy.
And to make sure this, I said, oh, you're finally
learning about things. I'm like, wait until you get a
job now. And now she's been getting you know, she's
working now and now it's a whole another thing. But
she was, you know, for me, it's it's sad. Of course,
it's so weird to see your child grow up. It's
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there always people always say it, People always say this stuff,
and you always go, well, you don't, you never, you
don't understand less you have a child. And it is
so true. And it's not like shove me, get down
your throat, like, oh my god, you know what you're doing.
It's more or less of It is a such an
odd feeling to have somebody that you loved that from
the very beginning could never even speak to you or
talk to you when the kid was born, that you
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have so much love for this person, and now this
person is a grown ass woman and she's doing things
and going through things that you did before, but in
a different path. And it's weird to go, Okay, I've
seen you sing at a kid's school play, you know,
singing Yankee Doodle Danny in kindergarten. And now you're walking
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down getting your diploma, and now you're going into college
and you go, what the hell just happened? How did
that time go? And it's it's an emotional roller coaster.
It is I mean, I got I cried like a
freaking baby when I left her. I remember this, I
actually left her. I was like, all right, cool, and
I was like in the dorm and I'm like, you're
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all settled in. I'm like, all right, I said, the
only thing for me when I got upset and I
told her, I said, I was like, I got teared
saying it because I said to her, listen, I said,
here's the here's the thing that sucks, and said, it's
great that you're going and doing all the things that
you're doing. The only thing that sucks is and I'm
used to traveling anyway. So therefore we have We're good
with each other in a sense of calling each other,
face timing each other. The hardest part is is when
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I come home to Florida and I want to see you,
You're not there. You're a Michigan to see you for
a lot of the other holidays that you normally I
normally see, you're not there. So that kind of tradition
and that kind of stuff is where it hurts home
and you're like, sucks, you know. But again, it's one
of those things where you have to let you kild fly.
You have to let them to to make those mistakes.
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And you know, even now, there's so many times that
we bumped heads. And one time I said something that
she actually told me to go f myself, which I
was like, whoa, I mean, you want to get deep
with stuff? And we we had a heated argument. We
had a we had a heated argument. Can I criss
on here? No? I can't cross. You want easy to
believe it to be things? You should believe it? Oh yeah, no,
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no legit I I we had an argument about something
and I I said something that I shouldn't have that
triggered her to get upset because she was I've never
seen to be very outspoken like that. And I'm like,
you got you're very passionate, you're very upset, and the
way it came out again, I should have said this again,
we don't say the right things all the time, but
I was like, you're really upset? Are you were in
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your period? And that set off a whole another level
of something that I've never seen before. So that's why
she told me to go. Basically, she said, you can
go yourself. It's what she said to me. And I
went and I stepped back for a second and I
just let her go out. She get all steamed up.
She tells me everything. I go, okay, I left room.
I went back in the room and I said, do
me a favor. I said, you know, I know that
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we do have great conversations again, and it's it's amazing
to me how she is very open to a lot
of things that not even myself, or sometimes I would
think even my friends kids would never say to them
or openly say to them. But it's interesting where I
was like, do me a favor. I said, we can
have conversations. You can be mad at me, you can
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go inside and say I said, if you ever say
that ever again, I will beat your ass. I said,
you want to know what a grown person would do
to a grown person. You're grown woman, though, I will
beat your ass because I'm your father. I said, don't
ever speak to me like that ever again. I said,
we don't. We don't have that. Guy said, I don't
speak to you like that. You don't speak to me
like that. I said, we don't do that. So she
apologized and everything, and again, these these are these are
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moments that you know, we don't like to talk about,
but they happen. Having your own kid to tell me
go screw myself after she got mad at something else.
And again it was a whole other thing, and I
was just like, let's all calm down. I'm not your friend,
I'm your father. So that's that's the first. And it's
so it's so funny to see people too when they
see me because I'm like a twelve year old kids
you don't like having fun? Is that It's hilarious when
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a lot of friends of mine see me and they're like, damn,
you really reprimand your kids are You're really telling them
don't do that? Or how did you see that? That
your kids doing that and you're yelling at her? They're
only done, I said, I see everything. I said, we
just noticed it. It's just an instinct. It happens. It
is what it is. But you know, like I said,
getting back to the to that question, in a sense
of like it's it's it's tough. It is, it's just
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all around tough. You try to deal with it the
best you can uh and learn how to go about it.
And again, everybody's path is completely different. You know, mine
is where I never even went to college. My kids
going to college. I never went. So I look at
her going. I don't know what to tell you. I've
never been to college. I don't even know what it's like.
My college years was touring the world. Yeah, so I
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don't know. You know, it's different old. How old were
you when you left home? Um? I didn't well specifically
really leave home, but as far as traveling, and I
was gone from about two and a half years is
when I was right out of high school, almost like
eighteen or nineteen years old. The age that my my
daughter left college really was the time I left. I
left the team to pursue hockey, and I remember leaving.
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I was gone for about a month and then I'm
remember writing a letter to my parents and my brother
and sister and like I can't do this. I miss
you guys too much. Like I was crying. Um, it's
like my heart was breaking that I was away from home.
I was living with another family in a different town,
five hours away. And I put it in a little
desk drawer in my in my bedroom and I never
mailed it. And I kind of just got over that
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hurdle all of a sudden, and then after that I
was fine. I was like, I want to pursue hockey
for a life like I want. You know, this is
just I'm just feeling this way, but I want to pursue.
This means everything to me. And once I got over
that hurdle, I just you know, took off. But my parents,
I don't think we're ready for me to go. Um,
God bless their heart because when they dropped up, we
all cried. They bawled their eyes out, and then they
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get in the car and they drossed home. Um, they
weren't ready for me to go. But I think it
was an ultimate form of love to show me, like
for him to be what he wants to be, he
needs to play against better competition and this is do that.
So literally, I'm sure their hearts broke, but like in
giving me love, that was probably the way that they
saw that they could most give me love. And you
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know what I And the most amazing thing about that
is if if and and as kids we don't think
about it, but and now that I think about it,
because I probably wouldn't let her go if I didn't
think she was able to do it. Do you know
what I mean? I think parents, if parents knew that
their kid was about to fail, or do something. And
you know, I'm just saying it just forget it happens.
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We're all, we all play Devil's African stuff. But I think, like,
you know, especially with my kid, I was like, you
know what, you're ready. I can't stop you anymore. I can't.
I'm not gonna cuttle you. I'm not gonna baby you.
You're you're a grown kid. You've made enough decisions in
your life to prove to me what that you can
make a normal decision in your life, you know what
I mean. So it was kind of interesting to to
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to let that go. And I think that's what it is.
I think for even for an adult to say, you
know what, I know you're ready to let yourself to
let to go. They might not be ready, but I
know you're ready, you know what I mean. It's it's
it's interest because I think that's thinking about that. I
don't think I would let her go if she was ready. Um,
how does that? How does that feel for you? Is
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there is there like a real internal sense of pride,
like I believe she's ready, Like I think I've I
think I've been the best parent I could for her,
and like yeah, you know, and again. You know, it
feels good when other people say it, obviously, you know
when when it's word of mouth, when all of a sudden,
you know, I've had Yeah, And again, it's always weird
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and interesting because of who I am. Some people take
that into consideration. Think about it. You know, where some
people just might want to come up to me and say,
oh my god, your daughter is such an amazing kid,
just because they wanted to talk to me. But there
are some people out there that are like, you know what,
They're like friends of mine that are like, dude, that's
your kid. That's weird. First of all, they said, because
how the hell did that amazing woman come out of you?
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Basically in a sense like you taught like I know
you from like farting around in rooms and being silly,
and you know, again being twelve years old, they're like,
she is so ahead of her time. Even though she's
still a kid and she still plays and has kid tendencies,
she was very adult older for her age. Like I mean,
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we went to for instance, the stupidest, funniest thing too,
and I want to kill somebody is we went to
Lance's wedding. We're at Lance's wedding. Him and Michael were
getting married and some people haven't seen me in a while,
and some people I know and stuff, and I'm walking
around and Brianna was with me and and and Kelly
actually my exit that we were separated, and Brown was
walking around and some guys starts talking to Brianna and
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he's like basically hitting on her. And I'm like watching
as this is going down, I'm like, this is gonna
be funny. I walk up and the guy's like, oh, Joey,
what's up there? And I know. The guy like oh,
it's like, oh, do you know. I'm like, yeah, that's Brianna,
my daughter. He went, oh okay, I'm like, yeah, daughter.
I was like that. All I say was that's my daughter.
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And he had no idea. He thought it was just
some chick at them at the wedding and he was
just trying to hit on. I was like, by the way,
she's seventeen. And that was the time too. I'm like,
she's seventeen and I would kill you, there's no way.
So again, it's really funny, like how mature she has
has gotten. And I guess, you know again, I commend
obviously myself. Yeah, I put about the the back and
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and my acts as well. You know. Again, it's like
we may not be the great the greatest people in
a relationship wise as far as the marriage is concerned,
but I definitely know that we have been damn good
parents to to keep our kids in the right path
whether or whatever happens in our relationship. You know, if
we try to keep that, Yeah, we try to keep
that that very kind of on the same path for them. Yeah,
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true North compass point for kids. Yeah, to put them
first and and be there for them. Good for you, guys,
we don't much more time with you know, you have
a heart out here. Shortly, Um, eatan, what kind of
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do we want to get to another final question? Or
do we want to get some fire? Fire fire some
questions and I'll answer as quickly as I can. I know,
we go into a whole freaking thing. I love to
talk about this because I got a quick one. So, um,
you probably get these all the time. But like our
our listeners are, like I said, are probably fan girling
right now. So, um, what's the most challenging part of
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being known from a boy bound boy band? And what's
the best part? So most challenging and most and the
best um you know, in the beginning of it, like
after we split. I think the challenging part from being
at a boy band was was breaking that mold. Was
trying to not be a guy from Men Sync and
again we were and I was, and it is what
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it is that I had the popularity it was it
was more or less of really trying to break that
mold because people all they did was just see me
as a as a guy in a group. And you
look at a lot of other groups out there, that's
what a lot of them known for some of them
now of course. Or you got you know, like into
Jackson Bybe, you got Michael Jackson, you got with even
within Sick, you got justin Um. You know, with Backstreet,
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you don't really have a specific solo person or somebody
that's out there, you know, making it their own. They
do individual things like Nick does and stuff like that,
but not really I don't know, not really made. Other
things are completely out outside of just music, you know
what I mean, Like for instance, because I like how
you reinvented yourself in many lanes, Well I looked at
the whole picture. Yeah, I gotta look at the whole
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big picture. You know, for instance, say Real Quick Dance
with the Stars was a great platform. Yeah it's not
my forte. I mean, yeah, I danced a little bit,
but you know what, people saw my personality and that
helped me get another gig. And I did a show
called the Singing b Singing Be went to TV Guide
Network and I did I was doing the Red Carpet
for TV Guy Network and it just kept going on
and on. Thank goodness that the albums the show called
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common Oledge. So I think if I didn't do those
shows to show my personality, I would have never been
able to reinvent myself. Yeah awesome. Um, what's the best
part of being known from a boy band? M There's
a few things. There was no social media back then.
That's a good thing. Uh. I'll just say, if you screaming,
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women just coming up to you and oh my god,
you know what, it's it's one of those things. It's
I one of the one of the harder things was
was really traveling around a lot back in the day.
I remember how hard it was though, where we could
not even go to the bathroom by ourselves, had a
security guard have to go into the bathroom make sure
that there was nobody in there kind of thing. Now
it's a little bit more lenient, it's a lot more relaxed.
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I like this better. Um, you know, do I do?
I of course do. I love performing with the guys stuff,
And then of course I didn't. It still would love
to if that ever comes about. How's it gonna happen?
Probably not at the moment, I'm already answering that question.
But it's just one of those things where you just,
you know, it take you take different things one step
at a time, you know. And for me it's like
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I try not to dwell on things are like, o oh,
in the past, you know, we were this, and we
were that. You know, that was the best days. I
think the whole thing was just an amazing experience. It
was something a part of my life that I will
never forget and always cherish. I never I'm not the
type of person it's like, oh, those are my days
when I was young. I didn't know any better. We
were making a crapload of money, millions of fans, and
we had great music and what else is it? So? Um?
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I had a friend, an next athlete, once tell me
never try and replace sports. But also I know that
you will always be the athlete that you are. So
like a lot of guys will come out of sports
and say, oh, I was a professional athlete like you are.
Like if you want a gold medal, if you want
a gold medal in the Olympics, you are an Olympic champion.
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You are. Yeah, you know what can take that away
from you? No one continue You still are that. But
then the challenges you know you are a member of
in Sync. You are, but you have done things now,
But I am also now, I am this, Now I
am I've gone through that journey myself in identity of
like I am still a hockey player even though I retired.
I am that. I'm also a podcast post and I'm
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also these other things you know. So um, I think
people get stuck in an identity, especially in uh a
notable one of one of fame or where where people
identify them as of course, people could still identify you
as a member of in Sync, but you've gone on
to do so many other things that well, and is
that And it's interesting to see now too because now
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I never know it's it's it's actually quite It's almost
like a little game now for me because when people
come up, I never know what they're I never know
what they're gonna say, because sometimes it's like the older
the young, older women that are in their thirties and
forties are like, oh my gosh, I love you, and in
in sync the grandmother will look at me and go,
oh my god, you were great at Dance with the Stars,
or I love you my big fact Greek wedding. Young
kids will say, holy cow, I loved you from Impractical Jokers,
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or you were great on the Mask Singer. So my
my stuff is spread out so much, which is really cool,
I guess because the demographic for me has been again
it's been such a widespread So I think that's another
thing in credit to where when I do Common Knowledge
to show that's on Game Show Network right now, so
many different kids and from kids two adults to everybody
can watch it. It's a fun family game and the
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things that I've done have spenned over a lot of
different generations. Believe it or not, Uh to be able
to thank goodness, people still recognize me. It's not oh,
you're from that band that justin Timberlake was in which
you know, we get we get all the time. But
it is what it is, and but I don't care. Man,
it's credit to you for reinventing yourself, for continually doing
things in life, versus you could I you could have
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just cashed out and said, okay, I'm good. I was
and seeing dressed in life. But but it's not exactly.
I love to entertain. I love. Yeah, I love to entertain.
I love I love different things. I love. I love
that I'm able to have a variety of life in
the sense of where one day I'm in a booth dute,
I've alwiced over for a cartoon. The next minute, I'm
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hosting a show for the Game Show Network. Then I'm
doing pranks and jokes with a practical jokes. I mean,
who the hell would not want what I'm doing. I
mean it's amazing. Again, I've always you know, KMA lucky
stars and blessed the stuff that I've done. And again
I I do also handed to my ex but also
my kids for allowing me, because sometimes that's not easy
when you know the parents are always gone and the
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kids are not, like, well, why does daddy always have
to leave? And that happened with my younger one. My
older one now when she was younger, Why is daddy
always leaving? And it's always well, daddy has to work.
And I was literally, plain simple. Do you like the
house you're living in? Do you like the school that
you're in? You like the car that mommy drives? Well,
daddy has to do these things in order to have
these things. Dude, I can't imagine how hard that must
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because I have a two and a half year old
husky who's my boy. He's like he's like laying on
the floor over here. Um, but like when I leave,
he just stands at the door and howls and like
claws the door and howls, and it just breaks my
heart when I take him everywhere with me. So when
I do have to leave where somewhere where he can't come, um,
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it just breaks his heart. And it must be amplified
a million times. When you have kids that are looking
at people say that, I think it's the same. I
know it sounds crazy me to say that, because I've
seen people with their dogs. I mean, even my girlfriend
has a dog. We have a multipoo, and that is
her kid. That's amazing. I mean, like no joke. It's
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like she literally said to me one day and I
looked at it. I was like, really, she goes, well,
you know, if if he doesn't go, I don't go.
You know what. Fair enough? I was like, and I
don't even said that. I could. I can't be mad
at her. I could be like, well the dog, that's
her kid. You know, you gotta start thinking about it
that way. Not many people think that, So again, it
does magnify it because I think the only difference is
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is with a child, when they get older, they communicate
and they say, daddy, don't leave. You know. A puppy
is sometimes crying because maybe they saying, daddy don't leave.
But daddy don't leave. I want you to play her, daddy,
I gotta I want to eat, you know. But it's
it's interesting when the kid, When the kid does say
stuff like that, it breaks your freaking heart. It makes
you just you're like, gosh, it's like man, you know, like,
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you know, it's amazing how different things is. You can
get older triggers, you know. I gotta I gotta a
Father's Day card the very the very first time I
ever got a Father's Day card. I'll remember this to
the day I die. I gotta thing sent in the mail.
I was on tour and it came into the mail
at the arena and I opened up and it was
a book that my ex made with with Brianna, like hey,
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do you know where my daddy is? And always like
these cute little pictures of like Carl looking through the
cabinet and stuff like that, or hang on and then
set me a whole Father's Day thing. I lost it.
I lost, legitimately, absolutely lost. And that's another thing about
met out there. Stop being strong, be the be the
worst that you can be. It's okay. It is okay
to cry when you read a Hallmark card in your
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forty three years old, or it's okay to to get
teary eyed when you see the soldier coming home to
their daughter or their son. I lose that. I lose.
I've never like I'm like God, I'm a big man.
Now I lose. I lose. I lose absolutely too. I
never did during during playing sports. I never did. But
I've learned that. I've learned that side of my life
and developed that side of my heart and the emotional
intelligence and beat in two with that and not trying
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to suppress that, and my life is so much more
fulfilled and happy. Yeah, I'm so much more expressed and
I find a greater capacity to express love because of it. Yeah.
I love that you say that for our community because
I always try and be an advocate for that on
this show as well. Um, so high five to you
for being like truly a masculine and in touch with
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their emotions. Yeah. Man, nobody, nobody is perfect. And again
we all we all have different spides to us, and
you know, certain things may touch others in certain ways,
but again it's it's for me, it's it's life. You know,
if it's something moves you that much and that emotion
that it's telling you something, it's telling you something. You know,
it's say that moved you and that felt you in
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a way that you've never done before, and you're like, wow,
that just took me. You know. Again, certain movies, now,
anything that has to do with a daughter and and
a father's I lose. It's a ram Like. I love
that real quick. I want to ask you one last
question or um it's it's probably the hardest question of
the world to be short on, but I just want
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to respect your time. But um, what is the absolute
best and most fulfilling thing about being a father. The
most fulfilling thing is just seeing your kid succeeding in
whatever that whatever that is in that moment. It's not like,
you know, making money and being successful. It's it's literally
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you know, oh wow, she just walked for the first time.
That's amazing. You know, those are for those moments for
me are fulfilling, especially when and another thing that people
have asked me, and you could actually go look a
lot of a lot of interviews when people always ask me, well,
what's the one major thing in your life that was
a pinpoint or a pivot or the most amazing thing?
You know, what's one of the performances And I'm like, well,
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it's not really so much performance. It's when I had
my kids. That's the most rewarding thing for me. Yes,
is it amazing to have the awards? It's amazing. To
perform is amazing. Oh yeah, it's amazing. But it's amaz
eason to have someone that you've created basically, and even
if you haven't, even if you have adopted, that's another thing.
And if you adopted a child, it's still in a
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sense your flesh and blood because you were teaching that child,
the way that you were taught when you were younger
by your parents or whoever taught you, and how to
move that along and how to how to I don't know,
get it to the next generation. So for me to know,
it's weird for me to know, especially too, it's it's
interesting to think about this, but for me to know
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that I have not failed my children is one of
the greatest rewards as well. I think, you know what,
I mean to see my kid look up and go,
you know what, that's my dad. My dad may not
be perfect, he's a door, but he's done a lot
of good things in life for me and for my
family and just for just in general where he makes
people happy. And that's that's kind of one of the
things that that I'm most proud of to know that
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my kid knows that my kids know that value and
know that that after I'm dead and gone, that they
know what I did, whatever I did was hopefully a
great lesson and a value to them that they can
live on to tell their kids or their family or
their friends or whoever. So yeah, I love it, man,
I love it. I love your mission. Um Where can
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our community find the one and only Mr I am everywhere. No,
I mean on on Instagram and on on YouTube and
on stuff. Obviously Real Joey Fatone at Real Joey Fatone
is my Instagram and Twitter. But also there's a show
that I host Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays on YouTube at
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around two o'clock two o'clock Eastern time, eleven o'clock, uh Pacific,
the California area over there, um where we it's called
what does Joey Know? I have a host, Jason Logan,
he doesn't. Me and him basically host a show where
we have a different celebrities and we interview them, we
play certain songs to see if they can guess and
see if they know it. That's another thing. Common Knowledge
is still airing right now. And actually the cool thing
(46:57):
about Common Knowledge is is it's gonna be airing on
Fox at one pm I believe, starting I think uh
sometime in mid August or the second week of August.
But it's gonna be in like Orlando, Tampa, in New York, Chicago,
l a, UM, a bunch of major cities, but on
Fox affiliates. So we're hopefully gonna be getting syndicated. So
that's gonna be happening, and we're shooting more episodes in
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January three. It's August. Thank you. See you know more
than I do. So August three grab even quicker than
I thought. So August three year, we're gonna they're gonna
start showing that. So please guys check it out. That'd
be amazing. Let me know if it sucks. But it's
a lot of fun. It's a fun thing. And then
I'm gonna be doing some more stuff when practical jokers,
when I start shooting again, so we have the after
party show that I host. My brother in law used
to watch that show all the time when he loved
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was so funny all the time. The nuts these guys
are nuts, buddy. I I want to thank you one
for being open and honest with us but to um
pleasure you can do our community. But for being an
amazing dad. Like I said the show, I have the
utmost respect and tip my cap to every father out there. Uh.
I think that's the greatest destiny in life, to become
(48:02):
a father and a loving husband and a partner. And
so I tip my cap to you. And then also
from a personal standpoint too, I also am inspired by you.
How you came up as a member of instinct and
pivoted your career and you close you went on too
different lanes and do in my life as I am
an athlete was did live that athlete life. And now
(48:23):
there's other things in the world, other ways I want
to make an impact, other things. I want to challenge myself.
But I could live my life. I'm not growing and
challenging and meeting new people and stuff. And so to see,
I always love when I see people crossing lanes and
when I get to have conversations with them. So you're
an inspiration to me. My man, Thank you so much.
We can't wait to see what you do next. I
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appreciate you, man. Thank you for having me on any anytime. Seriously,
I mean for me. You know I don't I don't
talk a whole lot about it. A lot of times
I think not not It's not just because I don't
want to. I think it's more or less of just
like just like anything, it's it's the right time in
the right place. This is a podcast for that. You know,
if you're gonna talk to me about my career, we'll
talk about my career. But you know, it's it's different
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people that are different listeners that are listening you know
what I'm saying. So it's kind of nice to where
we had these conversations. Let's get into those conversations, and
again they might not be the nicest conversations. Nobody is perfect.
That's the one thing we we we all have to
really when we all should realize that, we know, we
realize that everything is not always freaking rainbows and roses.
It's it's it's grind, it's grueling, parent thing could be
(49:29):
a big painted the ass. It's just tough, but it's
how you navigate and make it your own and make
it to where you know you're learning. You're giving life
lessons and you're learning them as well. I'm always learning
every day. So I appreciate you. Thank you. Also, just
to end it, just the other day, I was over
at Sasha and Emma's for a barbecue and we're talking
about their wedding, and I said, that was one of
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the funnest nights of my life. To do it again,
like every year, just something right, if they do it,
we'll see you there and I'll jump up, yeah, hell yeah,
and make sure you don't rap your pants this time. Alright, uh,
thank you for serving our community. Until next week, everybody,
take care of one another, love one another, and we'll
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see you back here for another episode of How Men
Think
This is How Men Think with broths Like and Gavin
de grab and I heard Radio Podcasts. Welcome to another
episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like.
And last week we had an amazing guest on, Mr
Tyler Rich and we answered listener questions. So we answered
your questions and we love doing those shows. And this
(00:21):
week we have another special guest on to answer more
of your questions. Last week, it was a lot of
questions from listeners that were about fatherhood, and neither Tyler
nor I were fathers, so we thought, to serve the
mission of the community, we need to bring an out
standing father on to answer some of these questions. So
we have an amazing guest. Everybody is gonna just fan
(00:45):
girl when I say this name. Here at the moment,
we have an amazing guest on with us. He is
a father, but he has many more things than that
as well. Um. He is a music superstar, a living legend.
He's also an actor, host, a Broadway star, a voiceover artist,
a dancer, media personality, everything you name it. This man
(01:07):
is from the band in Sync. His name is Mr Joey,
but tone Joey. What's up, Buddy Man? Doing all right?
I'm great, and I guarantee listening in their cars or
in their homes, that the ladies are just screaming and
going wild. Well, hopefully that screaming to lead in their cars.
I don't want to get the little little deaf there,
so make sure it's a a relatively nice scream, but
(01:30):
not as loud. I hope that loud. You guys deserve
that you deserve that you are a living legend. Dude.
I'm like, I'm gonna get any girl in my phone.
Any friends of mine are gonna send me text messages
as soon as this is over it. I'm here to
help anytime. If I'm here to help, if you need anything,
don't worry about it. No, it's it's great to be
on man, I really appreciate it. It's interesting, you know,
(01:50):
from from different perspectives from different man and it's it's
fun to be on something like this to get my
perspectives appreciate again. Yeah, and I'm looking forward to getting
your perspective as well, because I've said on to show
many times, I think the greatest, my ultimate destiny, the
greatest thing I could ever do in my life is
be a loving husband and a loving father and I'm
not yet a father, so I always appreciate when we
have people who are fathers on the show. So I
(02:12):
get to ask to ask questions and and sort of
just armed myself to become a father and prepared to
become a father. But also serves our community amazingly as well.
I also just want to tip my cap to user,
because you are a man of many hats um, and
it's impressive to see you go across industry and have
so many talents. You're obviously known as a performer, but
(02:35):
you have so many other talents. Yeah, it's it's nice
that so far someone has not told me I sucked yet,
which is good. That's always a good It's always a
good indication that you're doing something right. Um. Also, I
shall say, um, I don't know if you remember it
or not, but we met before. I don't know if
we actually personally met, but we were in the same
room two of our friends, very very very good dancers
(02:59):
got married. Yeah you got up and sang, um that
was that was and Sasha probably then yeah, buddy, if
you got up and saying and you crushed it and
you lit the whole fun it was. So that night
was so fun. That was a lot that that was
some of it. Tordsend was a little bit of a
bull but yes, it was fun. Nonetheless, UM, I don't
(03:21):
know if you knew what happened to me that night. Um,
so everybody in the room is professional dancers, including yourself
being on Dancing with the Stars. I think you were
Dancing with the Stars, right yea, So, um, everybody in
the room is a professional dancer, with the exception of
like three of us. And I put on my suit,
put on this nice black suit to come to this wedding,
and I'm like, wow, my suit is a little tight.
(03:43):
You know, this was a suit from when I was
playing hockey, when I was a little bit leaner. Now
I'm a little stronger. So I'm like whatever, I'll wear
the suit. I'm out on the dance for it's midnight,
just dancing. All of a sudden, it ripped the whole
ass right out of this, right out of the the
whole ask just goes right around right for the watching.
I'm like, oh, dear, gone, nothing wrong with that. Especially
in front of dances. Everybody were like cool, you're up
(04:05):
to pants keeping going. So I got a quick uber
home change pants and kind of quick uber. No, no,
I didn't know that. That's awesome. Hey, nobody knew that
that's awesome. I only missed about twenty thirty minutes, but um,
you rock the mic that night then it was It
was fun man, Yeah, it's it's you know, it's always
fun to do stuff like that, especially you know when
you're you know when when my fourtast is mostly performing
(04:27):
and singing, and you know, with Dancing the Stars, I
really don't get a chance to do that in a sense,
but people see me in performing. So but it's kind
of fun to be able to do that for your
friends that are having a wedding and you know, you've
you've you've grown to love and and and it's just
fun to be able to do something like that, to
be able to give the gift like that. So, hey,
it's such it's I think it's soutful to use your
gift to give that gift. Yeah. No, hey, I tried
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it as much as I can. If I can do it,
I'll do you know, I'll do it. You know. Super cool.
So I also I want to get into more of
what you're doing as well. We'll get into that later
in the show. Because you, like I said, you are
your whole thing. You're doing the man many things. You
have a new show, common knowledge, a lot of stuff
going on in your world. So we'll get to that later.
But to serve our community first, I want to ask
you some questions, some fatherhood questions. Um, you have two daughters,
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ten year old and a ten year old. Um yea,
And I don't know if you want to mention the
names or speak about the minute. Chloe Chloe's a ten
year old. Brianna is my nineteen year old. Brianna is
just she finished already her first year of college, which
is crazy to say and have that come out of
my mouth. Uh, She's gonna be starting her second year
coming up, I believe at the end of August. And
(05:36):
my my ten year old is starting fourth grade uh
in August as well. So they're they're both they're they're
definitely gonna be attending school. UM. I know with the
whole thing with COVID and everything. I think Brianna is
she goes to Michigan State. She'll be going there for
I think up until December and then comes back for
the rest of the year. And since my old my
little one, I should say, goes to private school for
(05:57):
schooling they're doing where they can either go to school
or opt out of being in school. So what we
want to do is for my daughters, what we're gonna
what we are doing. What we're doing is we're gonna
have our kid, Chloe, Chloe going to school. And if
and you know, and if things aren't that great or
the case would be, we can always pull her out
worst case scenario and still be two at home, but
we'd rather her get the education in the hands on
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things because now the classes are going to be even smaller,
which is great, I think, obviously with the exception of
hopefully for everybody's social distancing, and they're putting plexical I mean,
it's crazy what they're doing, but they're trying to make
it as as normal as they can. So it's been
a it's been interesting to deal with that, especially right
when the pandemic hit and you know, I'm not doing
fourth grade math anymore. And my kid comes up to
(06:39):
me and says, hey, Dad, don't know how to do this,
And I look at her, going, uh, I don't know either.
Let me find out. You know, you figure it out
or you asked the teacher. You know, I asked my brother.
Is talking my brother about it too. He's got two kids,
and he said he wants to put his son back
in school in the fall too. So it seems like
a lot of places are leaving you the option. Um,
I would probly do the same, try and get them
back in school, just to be the environment and being
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around their friends. And life's gonna look a little bit different. Um,
But that's okay, you know, I think so right right now,
it's again it's just adjusting and hopefully getting back again.
Nothing's ever gonna be hard to percent normal. I don't
think back to normal percent, but again, there will be
some sort of normal ce on certain things in the
way they're going to handle things, I'm sure. And just again,
it's one of those things that like, Okay, let's try
(07:22):
to reassess the figure out what we have to do
and how we have to do it to make things
work to where we get these kids in education. Yeah, wow, amazing,
awesome brother, Okay, we have we have some questions for you, buddy,
and I'm looking forward to your answers. And just like
doing everything from a father, so our our producer engineer, extraordinary,
Mr Easton is awaiting in the wings with the question Easton,
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what do you got for us? Buddy? All right, let's
get into it. Uh. This first one is from Clara.
She says, guys with kids, how are you surviving this time? Marriage, dating, parenting?
It's all too much? Great question. Yeah, it's th one,
but like how we're very guys with kids, kids come first.
I don't know what does it look like for you?
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It is well for me, it's it's for people. For
for men that are going through what I have gone
through and things that I'm going through now, it's it is.
It is tough. I ain't gonna lie. It's not that easy.
I mean right now, you know. Finally add percent been divorced.
I've been married. I was married for almost dated for
almost ten years and almost married for ten years. So
I was with with with my ex Kelly for almost
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twenty years. Uh. Been has been separated for about two
years now. It's been over about six years now. Been
divorced in a sense separating divorce from about five to
six years now. But it's crazy because it's good and bad.
It's really weird because for what we have now is
you know, a lot of times I do travel, and
I do work a lot, and mostly my ex will
take care of the girls because I do travel. Now
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that my other one obviously is older, she is obviously
a lot more free. She's nineteen, she goes to college. Okay,
with that, get to understand that it's a little bit
easier with the ten year old I right now. We've
been doing it since the pandemic happened. You know, there
were times, like I said, when I work now that
things haven't been happening, and I haven't been working. I've
been taking care of my kids two weeks, two weeks on,
two weeks off, so I'll have my girls, I'll have
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Chloe two weeks on, and like now, the next two
weeks I have off, I don't have them. And also
on top of that, I also have a girlfriend that
I've been dating from the past four and a half
five years almost now almost six actually, uh, And it's
been crazy because the fact that you know, she lives
in l A. And everything's been going on in l A.
She just a couple about a month or so ago.
(09:29):
She actually flew to spend time with her mom, who
lives about an hour so away from me. So that's
kind of a good thing for me in the best
of both worlds. But the hardest part, I would say
honestly is really juggling that time, but also on top
of that how to avoid and deal with the pandemic
and not you know, okay, my say friends is okay,
my girlfriend's been with her mom, but her mom has
been out maybe somewhere, so I can't really be with
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her all the time. So it's a lot of face
time and a lot of conversation, um, you know, dealing
with the kids. It's it's that day to day basis.
And again, like I was about to say earlier, is
with the math problems. There's certain things that I don't
know and I'm like, Chloe, I don't know what to
tell you, like I don't even know the answer or
how to do this. So and the nice things about
is the teachers have been really helpful during obviously the
school year, so they've been really helpful with the with
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the with the point of like you know, give us
the call or let us know, you know what, we'll
try to help you out one on one. So it's
been a crazy thing for me to juggle because I mean,
think about it, you know, get people always say celebrities, Oh,
you know, you got it easy, and you know you've
got tons of money and you can do this. Okay,
I get that. But when you have a divorce, when
you're dealing with kids, when you're dealing with a girlfriend,
when you're dealing with your own personal things in your
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personal life, and then you go, oh, I have I
have to deal with a career on top of that.
It does take a lot of um compartmentalizing, putting things
in certain places and going okay, I have to deal
with this right now, and then I gotta put that
away and deal and put a new hat on and
put the you know, the dad hat, and what do
I have to do with that? You know? It's it
is so crazy. It's like eighty million things. Especially in
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my ten year old now, it's more or less of going,
you know, to give you a crazy day, it would
be like, all right, we're getting up, you do the breakfast,
you do this, get your bed, I gotta get ready
for this. Oh my gosh, you're going through puberty now,
and your arm pits of this and that. How do
I have this conversation with you when you're ten years
old and you're a girl, But you need to trim that.
But how do I tell you that? And I'm a god,
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it is insane. And that's just at the beginning of
the morning, you know, and then you gotta go throughout
the whole day of other things as well. So it's
the question for me to compartmentalize like that. Do you
do you like, actually make a schedule, like a home
schedule like before nine I'm I'm horrible with schedules. I
will say that because even now me right now, and
I'm learning more and more as I do it, because
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back in the day with the STINC, I was always scheduled.
It was a schedule to do everything you hate you
do this. Now that I have my own time, I
can make my own schedule, I tend to be more
relaxed a little bit more. But I will say, especially
when it comes to the kids, I make sure their
stuff is first and prior before anything that I do. Really,
majority of the time, it's always are you at a
(12:00):
dentist appotment or you got at school, you got this,
you got that? Let us let that's my that's my
goal for that day. You know, a lot of times,
especially for me, again, it is a little bit easier
for me because when I am home, I don't work
as much period. But now that things can slow down,
I haven't done correct. So it's like almost my whole
year as a wash. And it's like, now, you know,
next year is going to be definitely different because it's
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picking up the pieces as far as working. Common knowledge
is coming back from that kind of stuff. Again, I'm
gonna be in California. How do I deal with my
kids and that as well. So it's again it's a
very um it's never a dull moment. It's never the
same for parents that know that you know, and obviously
we want consistency, we want repetition because it helps them
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in their daily life. I think as they get older
to have some sort of consistency in their life. I
think for kids, you know, and even though you know,
my stuff is a little out whacked, but there is consistency.
Every two two weeks, she goes to to to Kelly
every two we every you know, the next two weeks
she's with me, you know, and we we we kind
of make sure we And that's the other thing I
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make sure I talked to Kelly on getting the same
uh regiment. If you will you know what kind of
foods do they like? What kind of things? I don't
just go off of what I like and what I do,
but I'm always like, you know, what are the things
that they really like and really want to do. So
we're on the same page and when they come over here,
they're getting the same exact kind of thing as they
are in the other household. Because again, my daughter Chloe's
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on the spectrum of autism, not that she's not that
she's not completely disconnected or you know, not verbal. She's verbal,
and she she does talk to people. She doesn't make
a whole lot of my contactical at times, but there
are certain things that do not connect, and that's also
puts a strain on people. And how do you deal
with that and figure that out? And for a while,
I had so much patience when I was young. As
I got older for some reason, I'm like, I have
(13:44):
no patience for this anymore. And then as I'm getting
even older now you start to realize, Okay, what's the
balance of I have patience for this, but I don't
have patience for this right now. But I need to
take a time to figure it out. You know, that
kind of thing the more. The more dads I talked
to him, we have a couple on the show, Um,
they'll all reiterate the same thing, and it sounds like, what, Um,
what you're saying is that there's no perfect dad, there's
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no perfect way to do it. But we no book,
there's no real book. We leave with our hearts and
we try the best we can and you're gonna make
mistakes except that and know that. And um, but I've
every dad that I've ever met, I've never questioned their
heart and their intention. But they all say, yeah, we're
not perfect, but I love my kids and they'll do
anything for him. So oh yeah, I mean, you know what.
And it's so weird and and it's it's odd for
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me to say this, and I even say and it's
not odd for me I should say. But what what
I'm about to say is is definitely something that I
have learned over the years later on especially being a
divorce family. And even if you're not divorced and you're
still obviously what your spouse and everything is going great,
give the time for your spouse, whether it be the
male or female or whatever. What you're under your roof
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is give that time to say, hey, you know what,
I'm going to take the kids or the kid or
whatever for the weekend, or you know what, you go somewhere,
give each spouse a chance to kind of recharge their batteries,
because nobody's just like you said, nobody's perfect. We get angry,
we can do this, We do that. We all need
downtime to ourselves, whether that be either watching TV all day,
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going to play golf, going to a hotel and reading
a book, whatever. Then that sense maybe in your zen,
I think it does give the other person a break.
And I never noticed that when I was younger, because
I was always traveling within saying my ex was always
with my with the kids, and it was always you know,
well the kids did this and this and that, and
I'm always like, y, yeah, but you can deal with it.
And it's it's not that easy. Everybody there. People realized
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and don't really think that, especially especially when when I
got divorced. I became mom and dad when I got home.
So when I when I'm home by myself, I'm like, like,
legit part of my friendsman, I'm like, oh, I gotta cook,
I gotta get them ready for school. I have to
make sure, the house is you know, livable. Let's be real,
(15:56):
you know. And again, and I'm not the type of
person that's gonna be like, oh well, I have maids
to do this, I have people to do that. I
don't do that kind of crap. I mean, even when
we had our children, I had a babysitter. I never
had a nanny. And that's just that's just our personal preference. Again,
everybody is different and the way they were raised, it's
just different things. And the way I was raised, you know,
I was raised by my mom and dad, and that's
the way it was. Do we have babysiting, We have babysitters,
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but we were just you know, it's the way we
do it. And again, it's like for me, it's very um,
it was definitely a challenging thing. But I I tell
all people that have been married or still married or whatever,
give some time for your spouse to take a break
to disconnect. Uh and trust me, that person will thank you,
but maybe not by saying thank you, but you'll notice
(16:39):
in the how they react to certain things, you know.
And again, I know it's tough sometimes and it's not easy,
and you know, we go through different things or who
the hell want to want to watch the kids seven?
You know, when you're working all day Monday through Friday,
nine to five. You know, I get I get it.
But you know what, in the long run, it does
pay off to do stuff like that, whether you're divorced
or whether you're still together. Amazing, man, amazing. Eastern Question
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number two. All right, this is from Erica. How do
men feel about dating when they have kids from our
previous relationship? Do they feel it's important to take the
time to introduce kids to the new relationship. It's tough.
My rule for what what we did, believe it or not.
I don't know if this is gonna work for everybody,
but I can only speak for myself. Is we had
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it to where we? You know, again, people are still dating,
and when you get divorced, people date other people and
you don't never know that person is going to be
there all the time. And you don't want to introduce
your kids to somebody that maybe for there for one
week and then a new person is gonna be there
the next week. You know, you don't You don't want
to kind of have that That thing so mine was
(17:44):
is after two years of dating, is when I introduced
my kids to my girlfriend. Not I waited almost two years.
I waited just to know that it's going to be right.
That's the difference, because again, somebody can be there for
you know, six months, and everything could be great, but
something can go left field, and say, for instance, that
you know that child has an attachment to that that
that other person now and becomes some sort of a
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stepmother or stepfather, and then all of a sudden things
don't work out and you pull that from the kid too.
I think personally, I think it's a time to give
a chance to make sure you're really in this relationship
with that person. So my one time, the pretty funny
thing was is I was dating Isabel at the time,
and my buddy, my friend Matt, came with me to
go to the movies, and my older daughter, who was
(18:28):
still younger at the time, came with us, and I obviously,
you know, tried to honor as much as I can
to make sure that things were distant, and they didn't
know until I was really serious with this girl. And
in the movie theater, I was like, oh, yeah, Brianna,
this is Matt. You know, my buddy Matt, and this
is his girlfriend. And Matt and my daughter kept looking
as she got all the going there's no way in
(18:48):
hell that Matt was dating that girl, No way, because
he's like he's like a Tom Young, like a young
goofy Tom Hanks kind of thing. And then you have
you know, Isabel, who's this tall, beautiful Brazilian. So it's
it's a areas how that whole thing, you know, you know,
it goes down. But again for me, it was like,
I want to make sure that I'm in this with
her before they meet my kids, you know, And I
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think for me that's when I did that. But you know,
again to each his own, toever. You know, sometimes people
fall in love, they move in very quickly and that's
that's that's their that's their bag, that's what they like.
But for me, I know that I would take the
time before I introduce my significant other to my kids
because again that's a hard thing, especially depending on the
age as well. Like my little one really doesn't know
(19:31):
as much. It didn't really know as I didn't know.
They're not stupid. Let's be real here, kids are not stupid.
They they will they will see things and they will
know things. And even like sometimes you know, as she
was getting a little older and I was dating Isabelle,
there has been questions like legit, like you know, uh,
you know you still married to mommy? Do you still
love mommy? And you kind of go, yeah, we still
(19:53):
love each other, but we're just not together in a relationship.
We're always still gonna be there for each other. We're
always gonna be there for you. And it's a tough
it's a it's it's not an easy thing to kind
of talk about it, especially when the kids can't understand
it or they don't grasp you know. They're they're taught
to love one another, to love people, and if you
really care about that person, you know, maybe you get
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married with them and you have kids with them, and
that's that's the that's the thing. It's never, well, what
happens if you get married or you're together and you
guys really really don't really see eye to eye anymore?
And how does that work when you actually go through
a separation or divorce or not being with them. So
it's hard to really explain that to kids. But as
they get older, they do start to understand and they
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have I think for me, they have a little bit
of appreciation of how me and Kelly kind of handled
what we did as far as going into that with
our children. Amazing. Yeah, two years is long. I I
wouldn't guess, obviously, because I'm not in that situation. Maybe
off the top of my head and maybe would have
guessed like four or six months. But like the fact
that you were that thorough, that thorough, Like I really
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just as you how much you love and want to
protect a few daughters because you don't know. Yeah, especially
in a situation that I'm in. You don't know what
the what the what the reasoning of whatever. The girl
that I just say side I decided to meet or
whatever has a different intention you don't. I don't know,
So I want to make sure that it's legit, it's real.
It's not like, you know, a flash in the pan.
It could have been a rebounder. You don't know. You
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know again, you never know until you really go Okay,
that's the person I really want to be with for
for the rest of my life or for a really
long time, and I want them to be a part
of my life with my children. Yeah. Wow, great answer,
Thanks Joy, he said, you got another one. Yes, this
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is from anonymous how do dads cope with their daughters
or sons that are getting older and leaving the house
and starting their own lives. How do you navigate that transition?
I said, Brianna, get the hell out. No, I'm kidding.
I bought it. Get the hell out. You know what's
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so funny, there's there's different there's different kids. Kids are
gonna be different, um like for instance, and again, it's
interesting how dynamic and how different my daughters are from
each other. Where you have Brianna, who is never really
a hugger. She'll hug you and stuff, but never hug strangers.
She was never like even the type to give a hug.
To my parents. We would tell her, you know, all right, yeah,
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lean over and and and and give your forehead basically
because she would go to hug, but she would just
lean her forehead to her shoulder, never wrap their arms
or even like my parents, her grandparents, she was there
like that. Chloe's a different story. Chloe hugs and loves everyone.
And the reason why I saying that is with Brianne.
With Brianna, my older one, she was excited and ready
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at the house, not like you're like, oh my god,
I can't wait to get out of you drive me crazy.
It's more or less of I really want to go
into the world, and I think we have I think
I'd like to say and think that we did a
good job on prepping her to be smart about things,
to be independent, to be an independent person, and not
really rely on other people all the time, because there
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are times that people are you know, it's it's just
it's a true fact. Everybody is never not everyone's always
gonna be there for you. It may happen a lot
of times, but not everybody is always gonna be So
how do you think for yourself? You know. So it's
funny to watch her because, especially in college, when she
has a roommate and she's in the dorm and it's
almost like not that she's bathing the roommate, but she
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has that motherly I guess feeling instinct, yeah, instincts where
she's like, oh my god, I had to clean the
room today, or I have my god, this was messy.
And to make sure this, I said, oh, you're finally
learning about things. I'm like, wait until you get a
job now. And now she's been getting you know, she's
working now and now it's a whole another thing. But
she was, you know, for me, it's it's sad. Of course,
it's so weird to see your child grow up. It's
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there always people always say it, People always say this stuff,
and you always go, well, you don't, you never, you
don't understand less you have a child. And it is
so true. And it's not like shove me, get down
your throat, like, oh my god, you know what you're doing.
It's more or less of It is a such an
odd feeling to have somebody that you loved that from
the very beginning could never even speak to you or
talk to you when the kid was born, that you
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have so much love for this person, and now this
person is a grown ass woman and she's doing things
and going through things that you did before, but in
a different path. And it's weird to go, Okay, I've
seen you sing at a kid's school play, you know,
singing Yankee Doodle Danny in kindergarten. And now you're walking
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down getting your diploma, and now you're going into college
and you go, what the hell just happened? How did
that time go? And it's it's an emotional roller coaster.
It is I mean, I got I cried like a
freaking baby when I left her. I remember this, I
actually left her. I was like, all right, cool, and
I was like in the dorm and I'm like, you're
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all settled in. I'm like, all right, I said, the
only thing for me when I got upset and I
told her, I said, I was like, I got teared
saying it because I said to her, listen, I said,
here's the here's the thing that sucks, and said, it's
great that you're going and doing all the things that
you're doing. The only thing that sucks is and I'm
used to traveling anyway. So therefore we have We're good
with each other in a sense of calling each other,
face timing each other. The hardest part is is when
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I come home to Florida and I want to see you,
You're not there. You're a Michigan to see you for
a lot of the other holidays that you normally I
normally see, you're not there. So that kind of tradition
and that kind of stuff is where it hurts home
and you're like, sucks, you know. But again, it's one
of those things where you have to let you kild fly.
You have to let them to to make those mistakes.
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And you know, even now, there's so many times that
we bumped heads. And one time I said something that
she actually told me to go f myself, which I
was like, whoa, I mean, you want to get deep
with stuff? And we we had a heated argument. We
had a we had a heated argument. Can I criss
on here? No? I can't cross. You want easy to
believe it to be things? You should believe it? Oh yeah, no,
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no legit I I we had an argument about something
and I I said something that I shouldn't have that
triggered her to get upset because she was I've never
seen to be very outspoken like that. And I'm like,
you got you're very passionate, you're very upset, and the
way it came out again, I should have said this again,
we don't say the right things all the time, but
I was like, you're really upset? Are you were in
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your period? And that set off a whole another level
of something that I've never seen before. So that's why
she told me to go. Basically, she said, you can
go yourself. It's what she said to me. And I
went and I stepped back for a second and I
just let her go out. She get all steamed up.
She tells me everything. I go, okay, I left room.
I went back in the room and I said, do
me a favor. I said, you know, I know that
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we do have great conversations again, and it's it's amazing
to me how she is very open to a lot
of things that not even myself, or sometimes I would
think even my friends kids would never say to them
or openly say to them. But it's interesting where I
was like, do me a favor. I said, we can
have conversations. You can be mad at me, you can
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go inside and say I said, if you ever say
that ever again, I will beat your ass. I said,
you want to know what a grown person would do
to a grown person. You're grown woman, though, I will
beat your ass because I'm your father. I said, don't
ever speak to me like that ever again. I said,
we don't. We don't have that. Guy said, I don't
speak to you like that. You don't speak to me
like that. I said, we don't do that. So she
apologized and everything, and again, these these are these are
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moments that you know, we don't like to talk about,
but they happen. Having your own kid to tell me
go screw myself after she got mad at something else.
And again it was a whole other thing, and I
was just like, let's all calm down. I'm not your friend,
I'm your father. So that's that's the first. And it's
so it's so funny to see people too when they
see me because I'm like a twelve year old kids
you don't like having fun? Is that It's hilarious when
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a lot of friends of mine see me and they're like, damn,
you really reprimand your kids are You're really telling them
don't do that? Or how did you see that? That
your kids doing that and you're yelling at her? They're
only done, I said, I see everything. I said, we
just noticed it. It's just an instinct. It happens. It
is what it is. But you know, like I said,
getting back to the to that question, in a sense
of like it's it's it's tough. It is, it's just
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all around tough. You try to deal with it the
best you can uh and learn how to go about it.
And again, everybody's path is completely different. You know, mine
is where I never even went to college. My kids
going to college. I never went. So I look at
her going. I don't know what to tell you. I've
never been to college. I don't even know what it's like.
My college years was touring the world. Yeah, so I
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don't know. You know, it's different old. How old were
you when you left home? Um? I didn't well specifically
really leave home, but as far as traveling, and I
was gone from about two and a half years is
when I was right out of high school, almost like
eighteen or nineteen years old. The age that my my
daughter left college really was the time I left. I
left the team to pursue hockey, and I remember leaving.
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I was gone for about a month and then I'm
remember writing a letter to my parents and my brother
and sister and like I can't do this. I miss
you guys too much. Like I was crying. Um, it's
like my heart was breaking that I was away from home.
I was living with another family in a different town,
five hours away. And I put it in a little
desk drawer in my in my bedroom and I never
mailed it. And I kind of just got over that
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hurdle all of a sudden, and then after that I
was fine. I was like, I want to pursue hockey
for a life like I want. You know, this is
just I'm just feeling this way, but I want to pursue.
This means everything to me. And once I got over
that hurdle, I just you know, took off. But my parents,
I don't think we're ready for me to go. Um,
God bless their heart because when they dropped up, we
all cried. They bawled their eyes out, and then they
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get in the car and they drossed home. Um, they
weren't ready for me to go. But I think it
was an ultimate form of love to show me, like
for him to be what he wants to be, he
needs to play against better competition and this is do that.
So literally, I'm sure their hearts broke, but like in
giving me love, that was probably the way that they
saw that they could most give me love. And you
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know what I And the most amazing thing about that
is if if and and as kids we don't think
about it, but and now that I think about it,
because I probably wouldn't let her go if I didn't
think she was able to do it. Do you know
what I mean? I think parents, if parents knew that
their kid was about to fail, or do something. And
you know, I'm just saying it just forget it happens.
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We're all, we all play Devil's African stuff. But I think, like,
you know, especially with my kid, I was like, you
know what, you're ready. I can't stop you anymore. I can't.
I'm not gonna cuttle you. I'm not gonna baby you.
You're you're a grown kid. You've made enough decisions in
your life to prove to me what that you can
make a normal decision in your life, you know what
I mean. So it was kind of interesting to to
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to let that go. And I think that's what it is.
I think for even for an adult to say, you
know what, I know you're ready to let yourself to
let to go. They might not be ready, but I
know you're ready, you know what I mean. It's it's
it's interest because I think that's thinking about that. I
don't think I would let her go if she was ready. Um,
how does that? How does that feel for you? Is
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there is there like a real internal sense of pride,
like I believe she's ready, Like I think I've I
think I've been the best parent I could for her,
and like yeah, you know, and again. You know, it
feels good when other people say it, obviously, you know
when when it's word of mouth, when all of a sudden,
you know, I've had Yeah, And again, it's always weird
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and interesting because of who I am. Some people take
that into consideration. Think about it. You know, where some
people just might want to come up to me and say,
oh my god, your daughter is such an amazing kid,
just because they wanted to talk to me. But there
are some people out there that are like, you know what,
They're like friends of mine that are like, dude, that's
your kid. That's weird. First of all, they said, because
how the hell did that amazing woman come out of you?
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Basically in a sense like you taught like I know
you from like farting around in rooms and being silly,
and you know, again being twelve years old, they're like,
she is so ahead of her time. Even though she's
still a kid and she still plays and has kid tendencies,
she was very adult older for her age. Like I mean,
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we went to for instance, the stupidest, funniest thing too,
and I want to kill somebody is we went to
Lance's wedding. We're at Lance's wedding. Him and Michael were
getting married and some people haven't seen me in a while,
and some people I know and stuff, and I'm walking
around and Brianna was with me and and and Kelly
actually my exit that we were separated, and Brown was
walking around and some guys starts talking to Brianna and
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he's like basically hitting on her. And I'm like watching
as this is going down, I'm like, this is gonna
be funny. I walk up and the guy's like, oh, Joey,
what's up there? And I know. The guy like oh,
it's like, oh, do you know. I'm like, yeah, that's Brianna,
my daughter. He went, oh okay, I'm like, yeah, daughter.
I was like that. All I say was that's my daughter.
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And he had no idea. He thought it was just
some chick at them at the wedding and he was
just trying to hit on. I was like, by the way,
she's seventeen. And that was the time too. I'm like,
she's seventeen and I would kill you, there's no way.
So again, it's really funny, like how mature she has
has gotten. And I guess, you know again, I commend
obviously myself. Yeah, I put about the the back and
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and my acts as well. You know. Again, it's like
we may not be the great the greatest people in
a relationship wise as far as the marriage is concerned,
but I definitely know that we have been damn good
parents to to keep our kids in the right path
whether or whatever happens in our relationship. You know, if
we try to keep that, Yeah, we try to keep
that that very kind of on the same path for them. Yeah,
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true North compass point for kids. Yeah, to put them
first and and be there for them. Good for you, guys,
we don't much more time with you know, you have
a heart out here. Shortly, Um, eatan, what kind of
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do we want to get to another final question? Or
do we want to get some fire? Fire fire some
questions and I'll answer as quickly as I can. I know,
we go into a whole freaking thing. I love to
talk about this because I got a quick one. So, um,
you probably get these all the time. But like our
our listeners are, like I said, are probably fan girling
right now. So, um, what's the most challenging part of
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being known from a boy bound boy band? And what's
the best part? So most challenging and most and the
best um you know, in the beginning of it, like
after we split. I think the challenging part from being
at a boy band was was breaking that mold. Was
trying to not be a guy from Men Sync and
again we were and I was, and it is what
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it is that I had the popularity it was it
was more or less of really trying to break that
mold because people all they did was just see me
as a as a guy in a group. And you
look at a lot of other groups out there, that's
what a lot of them known for some of them
now of course. Or you got you know, like into
Jackson Bybe, you got Michael Jackson, you got with even
within Sick, you got justin Um. You know, with Backstreet,
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you don't really have a specific solo person or somebody
that's out there, you know, making it their own. They
do individual things like Nick does and stuff like that,
but not really I don't know, not really made. Other
things are completely out outside of just music, you know
what I mean, Like for instance, because I like how
you reinvented yourself in many lanes, Well I looked at
the whole picture. Yeah, I gotta look at the whole
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big picture. You know, for instance, say Real Quick Dance
with the Stars was a great platform. Yeah it's not
my forte. I mean, yeah, I danced a little bit,
but you know what, people saw my personality and that
helped me get another gig. And I did a show
called the Singing b Singing Be went to TV Guide
Network and I did I was doing the Red Carpet
for TV Guy Network and it just kept going on
and on. Thank goodness that the albums the show called
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common Oledge. So I think if I didn't do those
shows to show my personality, I would have never been
able to reinvent myself. Yeah awesome. Um, what's the best
part of being known from a boy band? M There's
a few things. There was no social media back then.
That's a good thing. Uh. I'll just say, if you screaming,
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women just coming up to you and oh my god,
you know what, it's it's one of those things. It's
I one of the one of the harder things was
was really traveling around a lot back in the day.
I remember how hard it was though, where we could
not even go to the bathroom by ourselves, had a
security guard have to go into the bathroom make sure
that there was nobody in there kind of thing. Now
it's a little bit more lenient, it's a lot more relaxed.
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I like this better. Um, you know, do I do?
I of course do. I love performing with the guys stuff,
And then of course I didn't. It still would love
to if that ever comes about. How's it gonna happen?
Probably not at the moment, I'm already answering that question.
But it's just one of those things where you just,
you know, it take you take different things one step
at a time, you know. And for me it's like
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I try not to dwell on things are like, o oh,
in the past, you know, we were this, and we
were that. You know, that was the best days. I
think the whole thing was just an amazing experience. It
was something a part of my life that I will
never forget and always cherish. I never I'm not the
type of person it's like, oh, those are my days
when I was young. I didn't know any better. We
were making a crapload of money, millions of fans, and
we had great music and what else is it? So? Um?
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I had a friend, an next athlete, once tell me
never try and replace sports. But also I know that
you will always be the athlete that you are. So
like a lot of guys will come out of sports
and say, oh, I was a professional athlete like you are.
Like if you want a gold medal, if you want
a gold medal in the Olympics, you are an Olympic champion.
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You are. Yeah, you know what can take that away
from you? No one continue You still are that. But
then the challenges you know you are a member of
in Sync. You are, but you have done things now,
But I am also now, I am this, Now I
am I've gone through that journey myself in identity of
like I am still a hockey player even though I retired.
I am that. I'm also a podcast post and I'm
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also these other things you know. So um, I think
people get stuck in an identity, especially in uh a
notable one of one of fame or where where people
identify them as of course, people could still identify you
as a member of in Sync, but you've gone on
to do so many other things that well, and is
that And it's interesting to see now too because now
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I never know it's it's it's actually quite It's almost
like a little game now for me because when people
come up, I never know what they're I never know
what they're gonna say, because sometimes it's like the older
the young, older women that are in their thirties and
forties are like, oh my gosh, I love you, and in
in sync the grandmother will look at me and go,
oh my god, you were great at Dance with the Stars,
or I love you my big fact Greek wedding. Young
kids will say, holy cow, I loved you from Impractical Jokers,
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or you were great on the Mask Singer. So my
my stuff is spread out so much, which is really cool,
I guess because the demographic for me has been again
it's been such a widespread So I think that's another
thing in credit to where when I do Common Knowledge
to show that's on Game Show Network right now, so
many different kids and from kids two adults to everybody
can watch it. It's a fun family game and the
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things that I've done have spenned over a lot of
different generations. Believe it or not, Uh to be able
to thank goodness, people still recognize me. It's not oh,
you're from that band that justin Timberlake was in which
you know, we get we get all the time. But
it is what it is, and but I don't care. Man,
it's credit to you for reinventing yourself, for continually doing
things in life, versus you could I you could have
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just cashed out and said, okay, I'm good. I was
and seeing dressed in life. But but it's not exactly.
I love to entertain. I love. Yeah, I love to entertain.
I love I love different things. I love. I love
that I'm able to have a variety of life in
the sense of where one day I'm in a booth dute,
I've alwiced over for a cartoon. The next minute, I'm
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hosting a show for the Game Show Network. Then I'm
doing pranks and jokes with a practical jokes. I mean,
who the hell would not want what I'm doing. I
mean it's amazing. Again, I've always you know, KMA lucky
stars and blessed the stuff that I've done. And again
I I do also handed to my ex but also
my kids for allowing me, because sometimes that's not easy
when you know the parents are always gone and the
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kids are not, like, well, why does daddy always have
to leave? And that happened with my younger one. My
older one now when she was younger, Why is daddy
always leaving? And it's always well, daddy has to work.
And I was literally, plain simple. Do you like the
house you're living in? Do you like the school that
you're in? You like the car that mommy drives? Well,
daddy has to do these things in order to have
these things. Dude, I can't imagine how hard that must
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because I have a two and a half year old
husky who's my boy. He's like he's like laying on
the floor over here. Um, but like when I leave,
he just stands at the door and howls and like
claws the door and howls, and it just breaks my
heart when I take him everywhere with me. So when
I do have to leave where somewhere where he can't come, um,
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it just breaks his heart. And it must be amplified
a million times. When you have kids that are looking
at people say that, I think it's the same. I
know it sounds crazy me to say that, because I've
seen people with their dogs. I mean, even my girlfriend
has a dog. We have a multipoo, and that is
her kid. That's amazing. I mean, like no joke. It's
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like she literally said to me one day and I
looked at it. I was like, really, she goes, well,
you know, if if he doesn't go, I don't go.
You know what. Fair enough? I was like, and I
don't even said that. I could. I can't be mad
at her. I could be like, well the dog, that's
her kid. You know, you gotta start thinking about it
that way. Not many people think that, So again, it
does magnify it because I think the only difference is
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is with a child, when they get older, they communicate
and they say, daddy, don't leave. You know. A puppy
is sometimes crying because maybe they saying, daddy don't leave.
But daddy don't leave. I want you to play her, daddy,
I gotta I want to eat, you know. But it's
it's interesting when the kid, When the kid does say
stuff like that, it breaks your freaking heart. It makes
you just you're like, gosh, it's like man, you know, like,
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you know, it's amazing how different things is. You can
get older triggers, you know. I gotta I gotta a
Father's Day card the very the very first time I
ever got a Father's Day card. I'll remember this to
the day I die. I gotta thing sent in the mail.
I was on tour and it came into the mail
at the arena and I opened up and it was
a book that my ex made with with Brianna, like hey,
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do you know where my daddy is? And always like
these cute little pictures of like Carl looking through the
cabinet and stuff like that, or hang on and then
set me a whole Father's Day thing. I lost it.
I lost, legitimately, absolutely lost. And that's another thing about
met out there. Stop being strong, be the be the
worst that you can be. It's okay. It is okay
to cry when you read a Hallmark card in your
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forty three years old, or it's okay to to get
teary eyed when you see the soldier coming home to
their daughter or their son. I lose that. I lose.
I've never like I'm like God, I'm a big man.
Now I lose. I lose. I lose absolutely too. I
never did during during playing sports. I never did. But
I've learned that. I've learned that side of my life
and developed that side of my heart and the emotional
intelligence and beat in two with that and not trying
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to suppress that, and my life is so much more
fulfilled and happy. Yeah, I'm so much more expressed and
I find a greater capacity to express love because of it. Yeah.
I love that you say that for our community because
I always try and be an advocate for that on
this show as well. Um, so high five to you
for being like truly a masculine and in touch with
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their emotions. Yeah. Man, nobody, nobody is perfect. And again
we all we all have different spides to us, and
you know, certain things may touch others in certain ways,
but again it's it's for me, it's it's life. You know,
if it's something moves you that much and that emotion
that it's telling you something, it's telling you something. You know,
it's say that moved you and that felt you in
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a way that you've never done before, and you're like, wow,
that just took me. You know. Again, certain movies, now,
anything that has to do with a daughter and and
a father's I lose. It's a ram Like. I love
that real quick. I want to ask you one last
question or um it's it's probably the hardest question of
the world to be short on, but I just want
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to respect your time. But um, what is the absolute
best and most fulfilling thing about being a father. The
most fulfilling thing is just seeing your kid succeeding in
whatever that whatever that is in that moment. It's not like,
you know, making money and being successful. It's it's literally
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you know, oh wow, she just walked for the first time.
That's amazing. You know, those are for those moments for
me are fulfilling, especially when and another thing that people
have asked me, and you could actually go look a
lot of a lot of interviews when people always ask me, well,
what's the one major thing in your life that was
a pinpoint or a pivot or the most amazing thing?
You know, what's one of the performances And I'm like, well,
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it's not really so much performance. It's when I had
my kids. That's the most rewarding thing for me. Yes,
is it amazing to have the awards? It's amazing. To
perform is amazing. Oh yeah, it's amazing. But it's amaz
eason to have someone that you've created basically, and even
if you haven't, even if you have adopted, that's another thing.
And if you adopted a child, it's still in a
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sense your flesh and blood because you were teaching that child,
the way that you were taught when you were younger
by your parents or whoever taught you, and how to
move that along and how to how to I don't know,
get it to the next generation. So for me to know,
it's weird for me to know, especially too, it's it's
interesting to think about this, but for me to know
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that I have not failed my children is one of
the greatest rewards as well. I think, you know what,
I mean to see my kid look up and go,
you know what, that's my dad. My dad may not
be perfect, he's a door, but he's done a lot
of good things in life for me and for my
family and just for just in general where he makes
people happy. And that's that's kind of one of the
things that that I'm most proud of to know that
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my kid knows that my kids know that value and
know that that after I'm dead and gone, that they
know what I did, whatever I did was hopefully a
great lesson and a value to them that they can
live on to tell their kids or their family or
their friends or whoever. So yeah, I love it, man,
I love it. I love your mission. Um Where can
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our community find the one and only Mr I am everywhere. No,
I mean on on Instagram and on on YouTube and
on stuff. Obviously Real Joey Fatone at Real Joey Fatone
is my Instagram and Twitter. But also there's a show
that I host Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays on YouTube at
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around two o'clock two o'clock Eastern time, eleven o'clock, uh Pacific,
the California area over there, um where we it's called
what does Joey Know? I have a host, Jason Logan,
he doesn't. Me and him basically host a show where
we have a different celebrities and we interview them, we
play certain songs to see if they can guess and
see if they know it. That's another thing. Common Knowledge
is still airing right now. And actually the cool thing
(46:57):
about Common Knowledge is is it's gonna be airing on
Fox at one pm I believe, starting I think uh
sometime in mid August or the second week of August.
But it's gonna be in like Orlando, Tampa, in New York, Chicago,
l a, UM, a bunch of major cities, but on
Fox affiliates. So we're hopefully gonna be getting syndicated. So
that's gonna be happening, and we're shooting more episodes in
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January three. It's August. Thank you. See you know more
than I do. So August three grab even quicker than
I thought. So August three year, we're gonna they're gonna
start showing that. So please guys check it out. That'd
be amazing. Let me know if it sucks. But it's
a lot of fun. It's a fun thing. And then
I'm gonna be doing some more stuff when practical jokers,
when I start shooting again, so we have the after
party show that I host. My brother in law used
to watch that show all the time when he loved
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was so funny all the time. The nuts these guys
are nuts, buddy. I I want to thank you one
for being open and honest with us but to um
pleasure you can do our community. But for being an
amazing dad. Like I said the show, I have the
utmost respect and tip my cap to every father out there. Uh.
I think that's the greatest destiny in life, to become
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a father and a loving husband and a partner. And
so I tip my cap to you. And then also
from a personal standpoint too, I also am inspired by you.
How you came up as a member of instinct and
pivoted your career and you close you went on too
different lanes and do in my life as I am
an athlete was did live that athlete life. And now
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there's other things in the world, other ways I want
to make an impact, other things. I want to challenge myself.
But I could live my life. I'm not growing and
challenging and meeting new people and stuff. And so to see,
I always love when I see people crossing lanes and
when I get to have conversations with them. So you're
an inspiration to me. My man, Thank you so much.
We can't wait to see what you do next. I
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appreciate you, man. Thank you for having me on any anytime. Seriously,
I mean for me. You know I don't I don't
talk a whole lot about it. A lot of times
I think not not It's not just because I don't
want to. I think it's more or less of just
like just like anything, it's it's the right time in
the right place. This is a podcast for that. You know,
if you're gonna talk to me about my career, we'll
talk about my career. But you know, it's it's different
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people that are different listeners that are listening you know
what I'm saying. So it's kind of nice to where
we had these conversations. Let's get into those conversations, and
again they might not be the nicest conversations. Nobody is perfect.
That's the one thing we we we all have to
really when we all should realize that, we know, we
realize that everything is not always freaking rainbows and roses.
It's it's it's grind, it's grueling, parent thing could be
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a big painted the ass. It's just tough, but it's
how you navigate and make it your own and make
it to where you know you're learning. You're giving life
lessons and you're learning them as well. I'm always learning
every day. So I appreciate you. Thank you. Also, just
to end it, just the other day, I was over
at Sasha and Emma's for a barbecue and we're talking
about their wedding, and I said, that was one of
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the funnest nights of my life. To do it again,
like every year, just something right, if they do it,
we'll see you there and I'll jump up, yeah, hell yeah,
and make sure you don't rap your pants this time. Alright, uh,
thank you for serving our community. Until next week, everybody,
take care of one another, love one another, and we'll
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see you back here for another episode of How Men
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