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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning everyone, Thanks for joining us for today's Morning Run.
It's Wednesday, December seventeenth.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm Amy Roe Fox and I'm TJ Holmes.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Eight days, eight days of Christmas.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, can I actually can't believe it's December seventeenth. Yeah,
it has flown by because every waking second we're not working,
we're buying gifts and so i'me just lies when you're busy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, hope everybody out there you're doing okay. And the
gift buying is wrapping up.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
We told you yesterday.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
The deadlines they're getting a little tighter and it's getting
more expensive to have to send stuff. So hope it's
going well. But this is when it gets stressful. I
felt myself stressful in the kitchen making breakfast this morning.
I felt pressure and weight and time started to get heavy.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, we ordered.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I ordered I think my final presence yesterday, and I
have some coming on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I cut it very close.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
You know this has failed in the past. I've seen
this happen I now before. All right, we'll keep you posted. Also,
it doesn't matter if the gift gets there or not
if you win Powerball. That drawing is tonight. Those numbers
are enormous. We've been talking about that. It seems like
every day. We'll talk about that some more and Robes
the story that scared the absolute hell out of me today,
a woman is arrested in the South for putting razor

(01:15):
blades in loaves of bread that unsuspecting shoppers bought.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I had to read that and then reread it, and
the charge that she was giving is an interesting one,
very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, we will tell you what's going on there and
where exactly that is happening. Also, as a reminder that
Apple Podcast app on our show page top right corner.
Little button sets follow click that you can subscribe and
always make sure you get our updates during the day.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, and it has been such a busy news cycle.
We've had lots of updates and on the run this
morning you'll see how incredible the news cycle is. We've
got a delay now in the Brian Walsh sentencing. The
DA is announcing those charges against Rob reiner Son fifty
nine charges against the Bondai Beach a Q killer.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
There's a murdered.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
MIT professor and another doctor sentenced in Matthew Perry's death
and the Maanngioni pretrial hearings are finally wrapping up.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Plus unemployment is up. Don Junior is engaged. Don Senior
is addressing the nation tonight. Meanwhile, the White House was
apparently not ready for its close up. If you haven't
seen this, that vanity fair thing has just gone and
gangbusters with those interviews. A lot of the content being
talked about, but robes also the pictures, the portraits.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
You say the White House wasn't ready. I wasn't ready
for those close ups. I didn't need to see anything
that close up.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
It's art, it's the photographer has a certain way he
does things. But yes, we'll get into all of that
back and forth where we have to begin with what's
going on at Brown University.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
A manhunt is still underway. What is this now?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Fourth full day. They still haven't caught this guy, and folks,
it's come down to this now. They're asking for help
robes from the public, even if you can recognize his
walking gate tark.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
That is where they are. They are desperate for leads
about this guy.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
That is tough.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
As this search, this desperate search continues. Police are now yes,
pleading with the public for help. They released more videos
of the suspect yesterday that they hope will help someone
out there identify who this person is.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And remember that first video after the shooting over the
weekend just showed him kind of turning around a corner
on the side wall. From the back, everything looked dark.
They have now pieced together kind of a timeline of
this guy from all those home those door camps. Isn't
that amazing? Wow, cameras are everywhere. They are so in
the neighborhoods. They see this guy walking. This is the
scary part. For whatever reason, he was in the neighborhood

(03:40):
starting at ten am. Wow, the shooting was at four.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Gosh, that's scary. Just maybe scoping out.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's exactly what they said.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
The when, where, and who they.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Say he was casing the joint is the word they use.
They keep talking about him not being necessarily a healthy
killer in that they keep saying he's stocky, he's a
little overweight, his pudgy.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
And he slowly walked away from that crime scene. He
did not seem like he was in a hurry. He
was calm, cool, and apparently has an affected walk.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
There's even a shot of him walking past a police
cruiser with lights on, like he's just think he's that close.
They were that close, but they're asking for help. And
again if you recognize how he's walking, even they're asking
for your help. A reminder, two killed, nine injured in
that shooting. Still not a motive that they're floating out.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
There and next up on the run nearby. Another homicide
investigation is underway, this time at MIT after a renowned
professor there was found dead at his home of apparent
gunshot wounds.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yes, this is new, No fg Lorero is the name,
forty seven year old professor there, a theoretical physicist and
fusion scientist.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
What else would you expect it MIT? Right?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
But yes, this guy forty seven, pretty young guy. But
he was declared dead yesterday at the hospital. The shooting
was the day before. They said a parent gunshot wounds initially.
But yes, a homicide investigation is now officially underway and
they say they do not have suspects.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, they thought it was worth pointing out police so
that there's no reason to believe there's any connection to
the shooting at Brown University. This is about fifty miles
from where that mass shooting took place. This is a
strange one though this professor was honored by President Biden.
He is he hails from Portugal. A neighbor said he

(05:27):
has a young family. So this is just a strange,
bizarre turn of events that is truly a mystery right.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Now, but worth noting. Yes, fifty miles away from another.
I mean, these are two of the most elite universities
in this country.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
A very good point.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Fifty miles apart this happened, but they say no connection
at this point. Continuing on the run now, the son
of Robin Michelle Reiner is being charged with two counts
of first degree murder. We got word of that yesterday
from the DA finally confirmed some details as the first
I guess we'd officially heard from officials about it, but
said yes, a knife was used in these murders. But

(06:01):
Nick Reiner, thirty two years old, now facing two counts
of first degree murder and robes. There was a lot
of back and forth and uncertainty because some folks were
reporting he was scheduled to be in court yesterday at
a thirty. He did not appear in court. His attorney
appeared for him, and Robes are now saying we don't
know when we might see him because he hasn't been
clear to even show up in court medically.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes, he has not been cleared. Yeah, we were exchanging
back and forth, people saying he was going to be there,
people saying he wasn't going to be there. And now
apparently the DA is weighing whether or not to pursue
life in prison without the possibility of parole or the
death penalties. So there are you know, there's some information
that we are still waiting on, but.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
We've talked about there's plenty here. But he said he
is going to consider the family's wishes in whether or
not to pursue the death penalty.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
That makes a lot of sense, especially in this case.
All right, Next up on the run, the suspect in
the Bandai Beach mass shooting woke up from Acoma yesterday
and was greeted by fifty nine charges against him. We're
talking about twenty four year old Navide Akram. He was
shot by police. His fifty year old father was also
was the second shooter in the mass murders. His dad

(07:08):
was killed in the shootout, but fifteen counts of murder.
He's also facing attempted murder and terrorism charges. Yeah, he
is going away for the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
All right, continuing on the run here now. Sentencing day
for Brian Walsh was supposed to be today. It's now
been pushed back. You remember, this is the guy found guilty,
the Massachusetts man found guilty of first degree murder and
the death of his wife, Anna Walsh. He maintained, of course,
that he didn't kill her, but rather found her dead,
panicked and dismembered and disposed of her body. The jury

(07:39):
obviously didn't buy that.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, so his sentencing was scheduled for today, but it's
now been moved to tomorrow. And it's not as if
we're waiting at the edge of our seat or on
pins and needles. We know what his sentence is going
to be. His conviction carries a mandatory sentence of life
without parole. The big part of this sentencing hearing will
be the victim impact statements. That judge made it clear
she really wanted to hear those before formally issuing his sentence,

(08:04):
and so she wanted to make sure the timing was
best suited for those impacts. Dames.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
You know we should mention we're not lawyers. That's while
we talked to lawyers. He's pled guilty to the other
charges of dismembering her body and lying to police. He's
going to be sentenced on those, But a lawyer explained
to us, yes, he's getting life in prison, but it's
important to make sure you sentence him on this stuff
because what if that verdict gets thrown out or reversed
in some way, you still want to make sure he's
in jail. So that's why it's a really good point.

(08:30):
It's still and we didn't know, but a lawyer, Alison Triesel,
who's been helping us along in the case, she explained
that to us yesterday. Continuing here on the run, more
court cases here. Next up, the critical pre trial hearings
in the Luigi Manngioni murder case continues, and the Jude
said yesterday that he hopes finally to wrap this up
by tomorrow. Remember it started at the beginning of last week.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, this has gone on longer than a lot of
murder trials have taken place, right almost the walls right, it's.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Gone on just as long.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
They've been fighting over what evidence will be used in
his actual trial. His lawyers are arguing that everything found
on him during his initial arrest in Pennsylvania should be
thrown out, and we are expecting a ruling from the
judge next month. So after the holidays, I continue on
the run here.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Now, a second doctor has been sentenced in the overdose
death of actor Matthew Perry. But this doctor is going
to avoid jail time. We're talking about doctor Mark Chavez.
He is going to get eight months of home confinement.
I think he's doing some public service and he's also
having to do I guess he's going to be monitored
for three years afterwards. Point being, he's not going to jail.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to
distribute ketamine, but Chaves sold ketamine illegally to another doctor.
That doctor then supplied the drugs to Perry, and that
other doctor was sentenced to thirty months behind bars.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
So he is going to prison.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So a total of five people pleaded guilty in this
case around in Matthew Perry's death who he died back
in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I'll continue on the run. The story we mentioned at
the top, and it immediately automatically gets your attention. We've
had stories like this. I guess over the years. Was
itailand All back in the people We're putting something in
tilen All bottles. This was years and years and decades ago.
But this is one of those types of scares, not
that wide scale yet, but the idea of this and

(10:25):
why anybody would do this as beyond well.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
This was an urban legend for a long time about
Halloween candy where people remember you could go get your
candy scanned at places after you went trick or treating
because people said that evil folks were putting razor blades
in candy. There was never actually a known case of it,
but here we go. A woman in Mississippi is now
facing charges for allegedly putting razor blades in loaves of

(10:52):
bread at the grocery store. This happened in Biloxi, Mississippi,
at two separate Walmart stores. The customer reported finding the
razor blades on December fifth, Then another customer reported finding
razor blades on December eighth, and that is when the
employees looked into it and found several more loaves of

(11:15):
bread that were right there on store shelves with razors
in I should say, and I'm surprised there are not
any reports.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I saw people being injured, like they caught this before
you've bit into. But the woman's name is Kamille Benson.
She's been arrested, thirty three years old. Again, this is
the Mississippi. They say she's from Texas. Charge attempt at
mayhem is the charge that she's facing. Bond is at
one hundred thousand dollars. This is a scary one to
figure out why she's doing why possibly anybody would do this.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
How much more is out there?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, it's scary to even report on it.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I know we have to because it's important for people
to know, but it also just scares me about copycats
and people who are crazy and do insane things like
this for what reason. I guess you can't charge her
with attempted murder. You can't no one injured, So I
guess that's the charge. A huh, All right, next up
on the run. We should put this on your radar everyone.

(12:08):
There is another move that is furthering tensions between the
United States and Venezuela. President Trump says he has ordered
a blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela.
It's meant to put financial pressure on Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Who he's made pretty clear he doesn't want him to continue.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
In office there.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
You would like him to leave, be ousted, or just
somehow not be a president anymore.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
So this is another move by the president. But this
continues to ramp things up.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
But he claims, the president that the oil revenue is
being used by Marduro to finance illegal operations. So this
you put some financial strain on. This is certainly escalated things.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
But there are a lot of folks out there who
say blockades are an act of war, and so in
terms of escalating tensions, this is a significant move in
that direction.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
We've been blowing Venezuelan boats out of the water for
the last couple of months.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, it's escalating, if that's possible.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yes, all right. Next up on the run, some discouraging and.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Late job numbers came out yesterday. The US economy added
sixty four thousand jobs in November, but we learned there
was a loss of one hundred and five thousand jobs
in October. So the unemployment rate now stands at four
point six percent. That is the highest unemployment rate since
September of twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
All right, well, folks, stay with us here on this
Wednesday morning run. When we come back, the President wants
to talk to you tonight. Also, could there be a
White House wedding coming after we got an announcement about
a new engagement and the White House and the chief
staff members they apparently were not ready for that close up.

(13:59):
Continue on this Snesday morning run now, and President Trump
will address the nation tonight nine o'clock Eastern, going to
talk about what he's accomplished this first year and what
he wants to do the rest of his term.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yes, so he put out a social media teaser he
is his own PR company, which said I look forward
to seeing you then. It has been a great year
for our country and the best is yet to come
exclamation point.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yes, nine pm Eastern.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I saw something like I guess there's a big Survivor
finale and that's now going to get preempted by President
Trump and people are all up in arms about it.
But yes, this was a surprise to the networks. No
one knew this was coming. So, yes, there might have
to be some adjustments in programming.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Really, Survivor finale is kind of aig deal.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, no, they said, this is like a big problem.
I don't know what they're going to do.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
As long as it doesn't interrupt Kim Kardashian's All's Fair
on Hulu, I'll be fine continuing on the run here now.
DC was all worked up yesterday, yes after a pretty
remarkable Vanity Fair article dropped yesterday. Didn't know it was coming,
but once it did, I think still this morning, Vanity
Fair is trending, and this whole thing is trending at
the top, and.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I can't unsee it. I really, it's two different ways.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
People look at the content and then some of the
well photo.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
You know, in a way it was brilliant because the
photos make you want to read it because you can't believe.
You're like, wait, why would they choose this artistic approach?
All right, It's a two part profile of Susie Wiles.
That's she's the powerful but almost always behind the scenes
White House chief of Staff. She did eleven interviews with

(15:37):
the reporter Chris Whipple about this first year of the
Trump presidency.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
And let's just say she was not tight lip. She
let it. She let it roll.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
She seemed frank in some of the things, and it
was surprising to hear people talk this way about President
Trump in some way. Look, one thing is getting a
lot of attention. She said that the president has an
alcoholics personality. Now it's relevant because her dad was an alcoholic, famously,
Pat summer All, famous NFL broadcaster.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yes, and she's actually said to this.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Interview, look, there's I know how to handle big personalities
and making comparisons. And she said this alcoholics personality. The
president doesn't drink, by the way, these folks feel like
there's nothing they can't do. And she made that comparison
and it and you think about it and going, wow,
that's interesting. But a lot of people took it as
she shouldn't have said her or have taken out a

(16:28):
context in some way, or meant to come off as
some kind of a name.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
And Trump wasn't upset about it.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
He even said, look, and I think it's because he
doesn't drink. And everyone knows he doesn't drink. There's no
implication that he's somehow drinking on the job. So he
was like, I've actually even I would agree with that.
I do tend to, you know, act a certain way
and stay up all night and act as if I
can't do anything wrong, like he agreed with her and
said I think I might have even said that once

(16:53):
or twice.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
So you imagine if he was a drinker and he
tweeted after drinking, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I can't even imagine. And you know what it is, though.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's interesting because when people drink, you know, they say
what sober thoughts are?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Drunk talk is sober thoughts?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes, So he he talks like nobody's listening, like he
talks as if it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
He doesn't carefully choose his words.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
He doesn't worry about what the impact is going to
be or how somebody's going to feel. And that's a
lot of times what people do when they're drunk. They
say exactly what they think and they don't care who
they heard. That's kind of how he operates.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Maybe he would be the opposite if you drink, he
would have sober tweets if he actually drank, What a fact.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Would it have on him?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
The other thing that came out in this article, which
was interesting, she said the president was wrong about that,
talking about anytime the president would reference Bill Clinton. Going
to Epstein's Island. She said, there's no evidence of that.
She said the president was wrong. A lot of people went,
whoa nobody would say that to the president and certain
Night Bubbly.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
You obviously can that's and he was very happy with her.
He said, Wiles is doing a fantastic job in response
to the article, and he just said, yes, this was
a disingenuous reporter who took her comments out of contact.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
So that was their response. That's the response to most things.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
But I can believe you gave someone eleven interviews. Just
what is this supposed to be a glowing I don't
know what the problem was. But one of the biggest
problem roads had to do with the pictures, the portraits
that went along with it, of the senior staff of
Carolyn Levitt, especially Carol Levitt in particular, is getting people
are making fun. They are extreme close ups, folks. They're

(18:26):
not just portraits. I mean you can't they're so close.
You can't see hairlines essentially, just faces. Well, and you
can see every blimp exist, but you can see every
blemish on a face.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
And yes, I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Every poor on her skin. She's twenty eight years old,
Thank goodness for that. But still, yes, a lot of
people have made comments.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay, but they got over that because there's something to
celebrate at the White House these days. There's a new engagement.
Don Junior is engaged. Yes, he's engaged to a woman
who's I've only been seen described as a Florida socialite.
Do you have any That's the only way I've seen
her described. But this is but Tina Anderson, and this
is the woman. Remember it was about a year ago
he was photographed with a woman before it was announced

(19:06):
that he had broken off his engagement to Kimberly Gilfoyle,
so he got a lot of attention at the time.
He's been dating for a year. They've been ount made
her official. They are engaged.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Now, all right, congratulations to Don Junior and Betina. All right,
maybe there will be another congratulate congratulations due after this
evening because we have another powerball drawing tonight one point
two five billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I've got the lottery take right, you can hear it
right here.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's gonna stay with me, stay close because yeah, the
cash pay out five hundred and seventy two point one
million dollars.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
So good luck.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I don't really mean it, but but good luck because
it's it selfish. Everybody wants to win this thing. What
would you do?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I would go crazy for Christmas. I would give so
many people to merry Christmas. It would be ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I would say, give me this cash immediately, because I
would start sending it out and helping and just it's
been a terrible time in a lot of ways for
the country.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
And yeah, oh, it would be fun. We've even talked.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
We were walking back and just like people who were
unexpectedly kind or people who were cheered, You're like, wouldn't
it be so fun to go back and just say
here's a million dollars.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Like just the woman in the grocery store.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, we were actually so kind talking about how fun
it would be to just and do it anonymously, but
just give people who are unsung heroes, who make differences
in people's lives in the smallest of ways but have
the biggest impact.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
That would be a blast.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
All right, Well, before we let you go, something we
want you to take with you. It is our quote
of the day, a longer one, and it's for you
and I love it. It's going to make you feel good.
And this one is one of the weirder aspects of
our culture, a heightened freneticism that seems to demand that
we be doing at a minimum two or three things
every single moment of every hour that we are awake.

(20:47):
Why is multitasking considered an admirable talent? We could just
as easily think of it as a neurotic inability to
concentrate for more than three seconds. Bob Herbert, New York
Times columnist. This is at least ten plus years old,
but he wrote a column called tweet Less, kiss More,

(21:08):
and he was making a point. He was in a car.
He saw somebody watching a DV and on their phone
while they're trying to drive, and you're like, what the
hell are we doing? And just slow down and stop
for a second. And we take so much pride in multitasking,
don't we. I can do this, Yes, I can do this,
I can do that.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah. You can do a lot of things. Can you
do one of them? Well?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, because if you're doing all of those things at
the same time, you're not doing any of them.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
As well as you could be doing. That is absolutely true.
And you know what, when we started this.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Episode this newscast, I talked about how time has flown.
I actually feel like it was. It's still Thanksgiving, because
as soon as Thanksgiving was over, it's just been non stop.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
In any free.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Moment has been devoted to booking for basically presence and
christmasing and travel, to the point where I don't remember December.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's December seventeenth, so maybe the multitasking stops right now.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
There you go, folks, So thanks again. Bob Herber from
The New York Times just call him.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
He wrote that stayed with me now for a decade
at least, but he makes some great points. If you
get a chance to look it up, I encourage you
to read it. It's called kiss more tweet less or
his tweet less kiss more. Can't remember which order that
he put it in, but yes, a weird aspect of
our culture, a heightened freneticism that seems to demand that
we be doing two or three things every single moment. Multitasking.

(22:30):
Why is it considered an admirable talent robes? Why do
we'd find ourselves talented when it's just a neurotic inability
to concentrate for more than a few seconds.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
I love how you.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Put that, so thank you for that wherever you are,
we appreciate you running with us as always, I'm Tjils
and I'm Amy Roboch.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
We will run with you soon
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Betrayal Weekly is back for a brand new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack. And make sure to check out Seasons 1-4 of Betrayal, along with Betrayal Weekly Season 1.

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