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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey there, folks. It's Wednesday, December seventeenth, and the son
of Rob Reiner has made his first appearance in court
to face double murder charges. He spoke, but only a
few words, and with that, welcome to this episode of
Amy and TJ. Robes. I said that he only said
a few words, but this was I was surprised to hear.
(00:23):
You were the one that alerted me that his family
has spoken as well. His siblings got to speak, Robes,
I cannot imagine what they're feeling right now.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, Jake and Romy actually released a statement. It's the
first statement, the first thing we're actually hearing from.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes, his siblings and the son.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And daughter of Rob Reiner, and Romy was the one
who found them.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Where are the ages? Remind me he was thirty two.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Jake is thirty four, and Romy is twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Okay, wow, she's the baby and he so.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes, So Nick was the middle child, and he said
a few words his lawyers to reporters outside the courthouse.
So we actually heard a lot from people who are
very close obviously to this case.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But this was a big deal. It seems Look, this
is all recent and just happened, but it seems like
this has been delayed and actually we need to explain
to you folks there is further delay. So we just
hopped on here now because this has been a breaking story.
Did make a court appearance out in La but Ropes.
He still has not officially been arraigned and that's been
pushed back. We know that this even appearance was pushed back.
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It was supposed to be yesterday. So there are a
lot of questions about exactly what's going on, and his
lawyer is trying to maybe allude to some complexities in
this case.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes he hasn't gotten too specific citing complexities, but yes,
we know that Nick Reiner's arrangment is now going to
happen on January seventh, so after the holidays. And while
he was in court today, the only words he uttered
were yes.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Your honor.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He had a blue vest on, so it appears to
be maybe some sort of bulletproof vest or some sort
of vest where he can't harm himself. I know they
give these types of things to wear for prisoners who
have well literally either a target on their back or
they're potentially suicidal.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And he wasn't an open court today. It was in
a cage. If you will as a as they describe.
I think everybody knows at this point what we're talking about,
but kind of almost a holding cell within the courthouse,
within the court.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, and we know he was actually officially charged Tuesday
and two counts of murder with special circumstance allegations of
multiple murders, as well as using a deadly weapon a knife,
in connection with the death of his parents.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That's what the court documents say.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But according to his attorney, Alan Jackson, who is almost
a household name at this point, a prominent LA attorney
who has clients like what Kevin Spacey, Karen Reid most recently.
But he was asked about this medical issue that we
heard about that prevented Nick Reiner from appearing yesterday in court,
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which we were initially expecting.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I said, not medically cleared is what we've been told.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's what we were told. So he said it was a
procedural matter. He said, there are very very complex and
serious issues associated with this case. Things need to be
thoroughly but very carefully dealt with and examined and looked
at and analyzed. And then he went on to say,
we asked that during this process you meaning the media,
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who was asking you allow the system to move forward
in the way that it was designed to move forward,
not with jumping to conclusions, but with restraint and with
dignity and with the respect that this system and this
process deserves and that the family deserves.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Well wait, and I'm curious, I really am. A lot
has to be going on for the level of violence
that we heard to be directed at the parents, at
his parents, So something was not just not right. This
is beyond just a little rift between two people. Well,
if this is horror we're talking about being described in
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there against your parents, forget the fame part of it
for a second, against any human being, your parents. Something
is going on. I can't wait to hear not just
the defense, but we are all desperate right now to
understand this.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And that's a good word to use, desperate, And I
think that's why so many people who saw Nick Reiner
and saw him interact not just at the party bizarrely,
but even with his parents, specifically with Rob Reiner. There
apparently was a heated argument, and according to folks whore
at the party, Rob Reiner was embarrassed, humiliated and quickly
left the party because they were so embarrassed that there
was a shouting match of some kind that happened between him.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And at the party.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
The party we're talking about it, the.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Conan O'Brien party.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yes, so a lot of the very famous people who
were there actually, and you don't tend to get leaks
and parties like this, you don't even hear about them.
So for them to have now said, hey, we saw
something and it was bizarre. He was acting strangely. But
they said that his mother was telling people and friends
that she's becoming increasingly worried about her son's mental health.
So in the last few weeks, but he was living
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in their guest house on their property. So you say, yes,
violence directed towards your parents, but also the people who
have taken you in and supported you and tried to
help you get better. You might not have liked their tactics,
you might not have liked how they did it, but
they were doing it out of love and he had
to have known that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Of course. Well I can't wait to hear and look,
this is why you get the best lawyers on the
planet in a case like this. And look, it's this
is just unimaginable. And there are some people out there.
You think, wow, this is a monstrous person who have
done this or done that. But there's always some story
or some understanding. I'm not trying to soften the blow
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of what has taken place, but Robes, this is in comprehensible.
Say it is human being.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, and to know we've learned that Rob and Michelle
Reiner were found in their bed, that this happened in
the early morning hours of Sunday. It's just you start
to see a picture that's painted. We also, where's that
front we he from court today? Yeah, and they also
they've now begun to release some of the surveillance video
the moments he was arrested. They released some of the
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surveillance video of him in that convenience store before he
was arrested, totally calm, buying a beverage to drink, standing
in line patiently. The cashier said he did not look
like someone who was nervous or agitated or anxious, or
that anything was different from any other customer.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
He appeared normal.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And there's no suggestion today in court that he didn't
do this right. Nobody is saying nope, he wasn't there.
This is BS A client had nothing it's not that
type of sentiment.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Absolutely not. Okay, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So these are just some of we're getting basically some
insight into what the crime scene may have looked at like,
and what Nick Reiner appeared right before he was arrested,
how he appeared, what his mannerisms were like, what he
just looked like. All of that is just so eerie
to think that you could be that calm, that you
could check into a hotel, that you could just do
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all of those seemingly normal things after you just committed
what would be probably one of the most atrocious, horrific
things you could ever imagine.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And there is I talk about this being I mentioned
unimaginable for most of us, incomprehensible. Yeah, you try to
put yourself in the position of those kids, the surviving
kids who grew up with this person and I no
doubt loved And to think that the person you love
that much has possibly done something to the other people
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you loved just as much is I can't imagine. So
when you said they spoke and broke their silence today,
I was kind of surprised to hear it. But again,
they know just the impact their parents had and there
are a lot of people out there. Maybe they feel
like they're fans that they wanted to speak to, so
please Yeah, and I asked you not to earlier. I
didn't want to hear the full statement in that moment,
so I'm hearing it for the first time now as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
They began by asking for speculation to be tempered with
compassion and humanity, and they said, words cannot even begin
to describe the unimaginable pain we are experiencing every moment
of the day. The horrific and devastating loss of our parents,
Rob and Michelle Reiner is something that no one should
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ever experience. They weren't just our parents, they were our
best friends.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, tell me that The first line again got me
say it again.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Words cannot even begin to descibe speculate what they asked
for speculation to be tempered with compassion and humanity.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's well ridden and it's not going to be honored.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Of course it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And it's interesting because it was a five sentence long
statement and never once did it mention their brother, Never
once did it mention him his name, even reference anything
about him.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And that was I'm sure by design that.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
These folks are going through I can't imagine. So we
talked there about these loved the siblings actually speaking, but
so many robes. Obviously, the headlines had to do with
the close relationships. I mean, he has friendships. He's obviously
a Hollywood legend, but all of his friends are Hollywood legends. Correct,
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we were talking royalty. Everybody he knows has a star
on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Way to put Oscar.
It's absurd the people he surrounded himself with. And what
a freaking this coincidence that the Obamas were supposed to
be see them on the very night they were killed.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yes, they were supposed to Sunday have dinner with them.
Their bodies were discovered around three forty pm local time.
The Obamas were set to have dinner with them, probably
two three hours after their bodies were found.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So we mentioned that. I think one of the first
people that a lot of people started looking at was,
of course Billy Crystal. Yes, dear dear friends. When Harry met.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Sally, right, of course, Princess Fry.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And that's the one I forgot. I was like, oh, yes, of.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Course, don't have fun storm in the castle.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, but I forget about these relationships like that continue throughout.
Those two movies are absolute classic. Yes, probably on every
list of top one hundred movies ever made. That kind
of thing. So these friendships go way way back. So, folks,
what we want to say is so many of those
folks decided they wanted to get together and they had
something to say as well about their friend Rob Reiner.
(10:35):
So stay here. When we come back, we will let
you hear the statement put out by Legends about their
legendary friends. There continuing here now on Amy and TJ.
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Nick Reiner in court today making his first appearance. Not
a rain right. He has been charged, but he did
not enter a plea today delayed until January seventh as
some complexities get worked out about. We don't know exactly what,
but his attorney said there are some things that need
to be get worked out before the arraignment.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I mean, I'm wondering. This is where my head goes.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He knows he's being charged with murder, and the murder
he's being with special circumstances, so the death penalty.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
He would be eligible for the death penalty.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
We've already heard from the DA that they are going
to be talking to the family first, before deciding whether
or not to pursue life in prison without the possibility
of parole or a death sentence. But I wonder if
they want to take this is where we're waiting for
Nick to enter a plea. I wonder if they're going
to be talking with the family the DA's office to
work something out so this doesn't go to child, doesn't
(11:49):
become a spectacle where they can actually just make an
agreement that he's going to serve his time and he's
going to plead guilty and the death penalty will be
taken off the table and the family doesn't have to
go through this horrific trial.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I thought you were about to say in an insanity defense.
I thought you were about to go that direction what
you're saying now, Holy hell. I did not consider who
wants what will now be a new trial of the century.
To a certain degree, yes.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And people want to hear I know it's it's awful,
but there is this fascination with the abomination, and we
want to know what happened.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
We want to know how it happened. We want to
know what it looked like, what it felt like.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So yes, people would be absolutely riveted listening to the
details coming out of the trial, but what the family
would have to go through to have that be everywhere
because he is Yeah, they have to prepare.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
This is months and months of your life with cameras
outside and it's your brother. Yeah. That so I'm almost
praying that they figure this out and don't have to
do a trial. Damn, you make a good point.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I'm just thinking that that would make the most sense.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Don't know. I mean, who knows. Nick Reiner might say
absolutely not, I want my day in court.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Who knows what's going on him in the condition he's in.
We mentioned who on this Billy Crystabal, who else was
a part of this statement? There were a number of
people who put out a statement jointly who are very
very close to him.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Ran the big names, Billy Crystal, Larry David Martin. Short,
those were the three that people kept referring to.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But the statement was beautiful. It gave me chills from
head to.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Toe and will it's a long statement, so we won't
read the whole thing, but to give you some of
the best excerpts from it. They all hit and you
will react to them. As we start to read what
these incredible friends of Rob Reiner had to say about
this beloved director. They said, there is no other director
who has his range from comedy to drama, to mockumentary
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to documentary. He was always at the top of his game.
He charmed audiences. They trusted him. They lined up to
see his films. That's all true, they said. His comedic
touch was beyond compare. His love of getting the music
of the dialogue just right, and his sharpening of the
edge of a drama was simply elegant. For the actors,
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he loved them. For the writers, he made them better.
His greatest gift was freedom. If you had an idea,
he listened. He brought you into the process. They always
felt they were working as a team. To be in
his hands as a filmmaker was a privilege. But that
is only part of his legacy. Rob was also a passionate,
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brave citizen who not only cared for this country he loved.
He did everything he could to make it better. And
with his loving wife, Michelle, he had the perfect partner.
Strong and determined. Michelle and Rob Reiner devoted a great
deal of their lives for the betterment of our fellow citizens.
They were a special force together dynamic, unselfish, and inspiring.
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We were their friends and we will miss them forever.
There was a line from one of Rob's favorite films.
It's a wonderful life. Each man's life touches so many
other lives, and when he isn't around, he leaves an
awful hole, doesn't he?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You have no idea that was good?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Why did I see that last line? I saw the
last one for some reason. That was really really well done.
I cannot imagine. So you go back, he's what seventy eight,
seventy eight? These relationships go back fifty plus years. Damn
to do what you do on that level for that
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long with the same friends. Those are friendships and bonds
that are hard to understand. And what Billy, I can
imagine what those guys are feeling. That's the line in
there about Range. I start started making a note here
and I wrote out Spielberg, Scorsese, Coppola, Hitchcock, and there
are others. But they had a line in there about Range.
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Like you think of Spielberg, you think of a particular
kind of film. Correct, what adventure?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
War?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Even?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I think he's fantasy.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, Scorse says it. You know what that is? You
know what you're getting. But even Copola Hitchco, this dude
had he did when you think about it, he was amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
When when they said mockumentary, I was like, right, this
is spinal Tap. And he just re released the second. Uh,
this is spinal Tap too, this past fall. That was
my My parents love that movie. They talk about that
movie all the time because I was a little young
for it. But he didn't think about all the generations.
It doesn't matter what your politics were, truly, Uh, what
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kind of genre of movie you like, guarantee you loved
were affected by. Remember how a movie that Rob Reiner
made made you feel.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That is so cool? But a guy who can do
Misery and Princess Bride is kind of special. Like you
didn't just try another lane. You nailed it, and you
made it oscar worthy and you made it a classic.
And you that is I don't robes, I don't know
if and your genre of rom com, it's hard to nail.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
When Harry met Sally is probably the finest rom com
ever made, and it again spawned so many others.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But everybody's studying it and still can't get it right correct.
And he even made his own mother famous, I'll have
what she's having.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And you know in the clip that gets played on TV,
you can't play the other clip. No, So the one
we always see is that one.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You can't have Meg Ryan faking an orgasm. Broadcast shows.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yes, GMA is not going to allow that. But this
is this is sad.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So many hearts are breaking.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
But this is a guy. We have few that we
lose robes that that are just famous or talented, but
actually have touched the lives almost of every single American
in some way, even if they don't recognize it. There's
a movie somebody has seen didn't realize Rob Reiner was
the director, like hem everybody. So this is a loss
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for Hollywood, for the arts, and for the country, and
for this family in particular and what they're about to
go through I can't imagine. But that's a very good
And if you have it up in front of you again,
can you say that line, that first line about speculation.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Oh yes, I can pull that up again.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know that hits on us a little differently to
hear something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Uh it is sorry, Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
No, No, that's on me.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I got it. It's said, Oh, yes, they asked for
speculation to be tempered with compassion and humanity, and can.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
We all just take that with you and maybe that'll
be the quote of the day tomorrow. Just tempered everything
we should with humanity. So, folks, we just wanted to
hop on and give you that update.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Go ahead, rooms, Oh no, I'm saying yes.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And compassion and humanity that's that we don't have enough
of in this world at all. We dehumanize everyone and everything,
and we isolate ourselves and heaven us versus them mentality.
When stuff like this happens, as awful and as horrible
as it is, there are so many important lessons that
we can take with us and be better and do
better because of what we see out there. But thank
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you all for listening to us. We certainly appreciate it,
and we'll continue to update you on the story. Just
constant developments here, but it looks like the arrangement won't
happen until after the holidays, but we certainly wish. I mean,
my heart, our hearts go out to Jake and Rome.
Can you imagine what this Christmas season is going to
be like for them? It's going to be gutting and
for so many other people who deal with grief this
time of year. This is tough and sometimes these types
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of stories are triggering for a lot of folks too.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
So I know a lot of pain out there.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
But if we can all just show each other that compassion,
of that humanity, it will make a huge difference. So
thank you for listening to us, I mean, any roboch
alongside t. J.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.