August 11, 2025 • 16 mins
Convicted Rapist and Murderer Victor Martinez Hernandez is learning his fate today. The undocumented immigrant connected to a number of violent crimes is being sentenced today for the 2023 murder of Rachel Morin, a mom of five who was out on her nightly run along a wooded trail. Amy and T.J. remind listeners about the brutality of the crime and bring the latest reporting from inside the courtroom as Hernandez hears directly from Rachel’s five children, her mother and her siblings about the “tidal wave of pain” they’ve experienced since her brutal death.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, folks, it is Monday, August eleventh, and as we speak,
the man convicted of raping and viciously murdering Rachel Morin,
mother of five, he is learning his fate. His sentencing
hearing is underway again as we speak, and it is
our understanding that that mother of five that he killed,
(00:24):
all five of her kids have addressed the court in
some way for their victim impact statement. And with that,
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Rose.
This is a case I even for a second forgot
how much of an impact this had in this country
because one, this guy was on the run for so long,
and two it was smack dab in the middle of
(00:45):
our politics.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Smack dab in the middle of our politics because this
was an undocumented immigrant who came from l Salvador, who
actually had been wanted for murder. He is also tied
to another crime, potentially in Los Angelus. So this was
a dangerous guy with ties reportedly to a gang down
at El Salvador. So yes, this is right in the
middle of our current politics. And this also speaks to
(01:09):
the heart of every woman out there who loves to run,
who loves to go on jogs, who wants to feel
safe and empowered, and we hear these stories too often
about violence against women who are just trying to empower
themselves and make themselves physically better. And yet at the
same time we have to be worried about who may
(01:30):
be watching us and who may be waiting for us.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
This was a We've had several stories over the years
of made national headlines of women being attacked and being
murdered being out for runs. This was, I think, without question,
among one of, if not the most vicious attacks that
we got details about.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I got chills when you said that because of the
sentencing hearing. We went back and we researched the details
of the story and the trial transcripts and what acts
actually happened to thirty seven year old Rachel Morin while
she was out on this very popular running trail. You
and I love to run on running trails. These are
rail trails. This is the I think it's the Maryland
(02:12):
Pennsylvania rail trail. And she loved her evening run. They
said she went almost every night. But when the medical
examiner are testified, and we're not going to get into
any gory details, but he said it was the worst
autopsy result he's ever seen, because from head to tow
there wasn't a part of her body that wasn't injured
that spoke volumes and.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know it. To your point is then about going
back and researching and forgetting just how brutal this thing was.
Do you probably notice this as well, So many places
you go and look up and research. At the top
it has a warning contains graphics, yes, information in this story.
That's how bad it was. And so that guy is
in court right now. He was found guilty of several
(02:55):
charges of all he was charged with, including kidnapping, sexual assault,
murder as well premeditated murder I believe it was. So
he's facing the possibility of life in prison without parole.
Now we aren't able robes there in Maryland where they're
having court. There aren't allowing cameras in the courtroom. So
(03:16):
this is quite frankly, very similar to what we were
doing during the Ditty trial. We depended on reporters who
were in the room and giving live updates. Now this
doesn't have the same amount of attention necessarily right now
as the Didty trial ist well, not as many reporters
in there, but we were able to find one. A
young lady. Want to give her credit, Blair Sable. She's
with WMAR, the ABC news station there in Maryland in Baltimore,
(03:40):
so we wanted to give her credit. But she's been
giving us at least a little few dribs and drabs.
She can robes about what's been happening in the courtroom
this morning so far.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Right. In addition to letting us know that all five
of Rachel's children submitted statements to the court victim impact statements,
she also talked about Rachel's younger brother. His name is
John Moren and he had been living overseas, but she
said he gave a tearful testimony about He described it
as a tidal wave of grief that he's experienced losing
(04:09):
his sister. And we know that her second daughter also
gave a statement saying that she wishes she could have
done something different to save her. Her daughter is texting
with her that evening up until about seven pm, and
then all of a sudden their text just stopped being
returned and they couldn't get a hold of her. And
just what a scary thought for anyone who doesn't want
(04:29):
to think the worst. But even her boyfriend at the
time thought that maybe she was cheating on him. She
wasn't returning his phone call, she wasn't texting him back.
So all these folks talk about the fear and the
feelings they had in those moments when they didn't know
where she was and what had happened.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So it continues in court. The reporter again gives her
heads up a short time ago that there was a break.
So it seems like things were moving fairly quickly, and
they got in ten impact statements. You're reading this, it's
the same as I am got all them. In court
started around nine thirty am Eastern time, and just in
a matter of two or three hours they had all
(05:07):
those victim impact statements done. So we don't know how
much how soon we might have this wrapped up. And
here exactly when, excuse me, here exactly what his sentence
will be. There's little color heroes as well from the
reporter in the room about Martinez r. Nandez. Again, I
don't think we've mentioned his name, but Victor Martinez Rnandez
(05:27):
is the one who was convicted in this killing. But
said he has been stoic and barely showing any reaction
to the powerful emotional testimony being heard. It goes on
to say here that the prosecutor says that he even
laughed and joked during his psych evaluations earlier this summer.
So who knows what with this guy, but the I
(05:51):
think we see that oftentimes it's kind of amazing at trials,
people accused of doing the worst things you've ever heard,
and during victim this powerful emotional stuff, they sit there
with no look, no expression.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Of all, all vacant, as in, there's nothing inside of them.
It actually, when you were reading that, I actually felt
physically ill, just imagining the evil in this man and
knowing that he could have such a flippant attitude and
then perhaps just having zero remorse or zero expression of
remorse or anything. But it's interesting. Her mother has been
(06:24):
speaking out Rachel's mom over the last couple of days
to a lot of media outlets as she prepared to
give this victim impact statement. She said she'd been working
on it for months, because what do you say to
sum up your child's life, and what do you say
to the court in front of the man who took
your daughter's life. She was just trying to put her
thoughts together because it was an impossible task, she said,
(06:45):
to put it all in one statement. But interestingly, she
said the judge had given them very strict orders not
to address the defendant at all directly, and we've seen
that happen before in other sentencing hearings. But she said
they were specifically told the family members who were going
to stand up in court to address the judge and
not to ask the judge for any specific sentence, but
(07:06):
to express to the judge the loss and to express
to the judge what their lives have been like after
the loss of Rachel. So I thought those were interesting.
I hadn't heard that before that they weren't allowed or
weren't supposed to even look at or direct any of
their statements towards the defendants.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
We just saw this a couple week. Was it Coburger
in Idaho? I'm getting his name right otherwise.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes, that is exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But one of the victim's parents, he literally picked up
the furniture, turned the podium towards the guy, and went
off directly at him. Abbs, Absolutely, I've seen judges admonish
family member as kind as possible, But you are addressing
this court. You are not dressing an individual.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
As much as you might want to as much, I mean,
I can only imagine. And interestingly, Blair Sable, who is
in the courtroom that you just mentioned. She also talked
about Rachel's older brother, Michael, and this is I'm sure
it was a remarkable moment to witness in court, but
she reported that Michael told, well, I guess told the
court that he forgives the defendant man not because he
(08:11):
said his actions are excusable, but because he said God
sees all and forgives even the worst of sinners. I
think we can all understand that sentiment generally, but when
you are personally experiencing that kind of loss, with that
kind of violence, I find that remarkable. I really do
that someone could stand up to the court and say
that in the face of this monster, truly this monster.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean, you got to lean on something, man, faith,
that's you have to You have to put your faith
in something under these circumstances, and those circumstances were folks
will remember this was in August of twenty twenty three,
and Romes I'm not sure if no, there wasn't enough
time for there to be a missing person national story
(08:55):
because she was missing one day, reported missing that night
and she was found the next day. But this was
August fifth, as she went out, and she did. She
went out at night four run in this trail park
bel Air, Maryland. Do they call it the mon Pa
Heritage Trail?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, mon Pa because it's Maryland and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yes, so that's kind of cool. But between six and
seven they know, they were able to track her. She
made a couple of stops of a couple of stores.
But then you mentioned as well, her last text to
her daughter. She sent one to her daughter at seven
oh four, and that was the last time anybody ever
heard from her.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You know what's crazy. So her last text or her
daughter was at seven o four. Presumably she's walking or
set off on her run at seven oh nine. So
just five minutes later, that's when police believe Martinez committed
his crime. Based on video and Apple Watch and iPhone data,
they were able to say five minutes later she was attacked.
(09:51):
And then it was four hours later when her family
finally reported her missing. Her boyfriend, like I said, admitted
he thought maybe she was cheating on him. Where was she?
So he went and he found her car parked and
he walked the trail but didn't see her. It wasn't
until the next day that someone was walking noticed of
deer trail, like a smaller trail off the main trail,
(10:12):
and saw blood on a rock and that led them
to her body the next day.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So here we are, this is August of twenty twenty three.
Her body is found. They don't identify a suspect until
the following May. Wow, and again, this is an undocumented
immigrant who was in the country but rove this. You
gave me a heads up on this, and then I
went and found the dates. Okay, we say undocumented in immigrants,
so he came into the country. No, this is not
(10:38):
a guy who overstayed a visa. This guy and they
have it documented. That same year, January nineteenth, entered the
country in New Mexico illegally, was kicked out, tried again
twelve days later, into El Paso, Texas, was kicked out,
tried again seven days later, and Santa Teresa and got
(11:00):
kicked out. He finally ends up some kind of way
in Los Angeles and robes. That is where he is
accused of a pretty vicious crime out there against a
mom and her young child. And that's how they eventually
track him down through DNA from that crime, another vicious
crime in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And it's crazy if you think about him trying to
get in January and February. It was in March of
twenty twenty three, so somehow he got back in and
got to LA And yes, that DNA evidence from that
attack was how they were able to connect him to
Rachel Morin's death, which is just said that he was
able to stay in that country for however many months
later and then commit this other crime. And by the way,
(11:36):
he came into this country while there was an arrest
warrant for him in El Salvador for a murder of
a woman there too, So he's twenty three years old.
This is a violent man who just continued to commit
crimes and vicious crimes against women while in this country illegally.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So he was identified as a suspect on May twentieth.
They finally tracked him down June fourteenth. A positive DNA
match from his clothes and DNA from the murder scene
war issue for his arrest. He was picked up the
next day in Tulsa. He's off the streets from what
you just describe. Rove the guy in and out, in
and out in and out of this country, kept trying
(12:14):
and trying until he finally was able to get in.
A guy who has a murder warrant in his home country.
This is very easy to say this should have never
ever happened, and that Rachel Morin should be alive today,
And that is why it became such a political hot potation.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yes, even the sheriff in the county it was, Harford
County mentioned he said it shouldn't be political, but frankly
it is because it was the failure of our immigration
system that allowed this man to come into our country
and commit these violent acts. And that has to just
be You know, it's awful and unspeakable to have to
(12:54):
go through a tragy like this where someone who you
love has experienced this type of violence and this type
of death, and yet to know that it shouldn't have happened,
To know that this person shouldn't have been in our
country in the beginning is really difficult and I can't
imagine how that adds another layer of pain to all of.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
This, another layer of pain. Today is supposed to be
possibly a day of closure for this family, and again
we mentioned he's facing life in prison without the possibility
of parole, and that is as bad of a sentence
as he could possibly get because the death penalty is
(13:32):
not on the table. Yeah, we continue now talking about
a crime here against Rachel Moore, and mother of five, killed,
brutally raped, beaten, stabbed. Repeatedly we hear about this crime.
(13:56):
An undocumented immigrant has been found guilty of all of it.
But he's only facing robes life in prison without the
possibility of parole. That's his harsh of a sentence he's
going to get in Maryland.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's right. Marylyn does not have the death penalty. If
this had been a federal crime, we could have had
perhaps another outcome at this point. But this is what
prosecutors and her family hoped. That he never sees the
light of day. And given the circumstances surrounding this murder,
surrounding this attack, and the fact that he's accused of
other vicious attacks, one would think that this judge would
(14:27):
not stop short of doing exactly that, making sure this man,
this monster, never gets out of prison again.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, it hard to you know, I don't know all
the law and what he has to consider, but that's
a again it was four things. He was charged with
first degree premeditated murder, first degree rape, third degree sex offense,
and kidnapping. He was charged with all four. He was
convicted of all four and again Robes a refresher on
this trial. He was just convicted of all that in
April trial nine days, jury deliberated less than.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
One My goodness, and it's premeditated because they say, the
prosecution says that this man went to this park, in
this trail almost every day during that summer. He was
looking for his victim. He had photos of Rachel Morin
in his phone. He planned this, he premeditated this, and
she had a very I mean every day she went
(15:22):
to this trail almost like clockwork. And you know, if
you are a runner, and this is awful because no
one wants to put the onus on women to protect themselves.
But yet we hear time and time again. Mix up
your routine. Don't go to the same place at the
same time, try to run with a buddy, don't wear
airphone at AirPods. Try to be aware of your surroundings,
especially if you're on a wooded trail where you have
(15:42):
there's privacy, there's opportunity. For crime to take place, and
so you got to think she was just someone who
loved her evening runs, loved her evening walks, and we
should be able to do that as women and not
be fearful. But yet that all led, unfortunately to her
being this victim because he was. It seems as though,
according to the prosecution, please, he was stalking her. He
(16:02):
knew where she was going, and he knew when she
was going to be there, and he was waiting.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Didn't they some mention he had equipment or something out there?
He had tools at some point, even I believe so
to your point premeditation to this crime. We're keeping an
eye on the court room there and again our thanks
to the young lady, the reporter from wm a R
there in Baltimore, who has been really our eyes and
ears right now and giving up to the updates so
we can pass those updates along to you all. But
(16:28):
when we get more out of that courtroom, we certainly
plan to hop back on and let you all know
what ultimately happens. But as always we appreciate you listening
to us. From our partner, Amy Robot, I'm TJ Hal
talk to you soon,
Hey, folks, it is Monday, August eleventh, and as we speak,
the man convicted of raping and viciously murdering Rachel Morin,
mother of five, he is learning his fate. His sentencing
hearing is underway again as we speak, and it is
our understanding that that mother of five that he killed,
(00:24):
all five of her kids have addressed the court in
some way for their victim impact statement. And with that,
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Rose.
This is a case I even for a second forgot
how much of an impact this had in this country
because one, this guy was on the run for so long,
and two it was smack dab in the middle of
(00:45):
our politics.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Smack dab in the middle of our politics because this
was an undocumented immigrant who came from l Salvador, who
actually had been wanted for murder. He is also tied
to another crime, potentially in Los Angelus. So this was
a dangerous guy with ties reportedly to a gang down
at El Salvador. So yes, this is right in the
middle of our current politics. And this also speaks to
(01:09):
the heart of every woman out there who loves to run,
who loves to go on jogs, who wants to feel
safe and empowered, and we hear these stories too often
about violence against women who are just trying to empower
themselves and make themselves physically better. And yet at the
same time we have to be worried about who may
(01:30):
be watching us and who may be waiting for us.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
This was a We've had several stories over the years
of made national headlines of women being attacked and being
murdered being out for runs. This was, I think, without question,
among one of, if not the most vicious attacks that
we got details about.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I got chills when you said that because of the
sentencing hearing. We went back and we researched the details
of the story and the trial transcripts and what acts
actually happened to thirty seven year old Rachel Morin while
she was out on this very popular running trail. You
and I love to run on running trails. These are
rail trails. This is the I think it's the Maryland
(02:12):
Pennsylvania rail trail. And she loved her evening run. They
said she went almost every night. But when the medical
examiner are testified, and we're not going to get into
any gory details, but he said it was the worst
autopsy result he's ever seen, because from head to tow
there wasn't a part of her body that wasn't injured
that spoke volumes and.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know it. To your point is then about going
back and researching and forgetting just how brutal this thing was.
Do you probably notice this as well, So many places
you go and look up and research. At the top
it has a warning contains graphics, yes, information in this story.
That's how bad it was. And so that guy is
in court right now. He was found guilty of several
(02:55):
charges of all he was charged with, including kidnapping, sexual assault,
murder as well premeditated murder I believe it was. So
he's facing the possibility of life in prison without parole.
Now we aren't able robes there in Maryland where they're
having court. There aren't allowing cameras in the courtroom. So
(03:16):
this is quite frankly, very similar to what we were
doing during the Ditty trial. We depended on reporters who
were in the room and giving live updates. Now this
doesn't have the same amount of attention necessarily right now
as the Didty trial ist well, not as many reporters
in there, but we were able to find one. A
young lady. Want to give her credit, Blair Sable. She's
with WMAR, the ABC news station there in Maryland in Baltimore,
(03:40):
so we wanted to give her credit. But she's been
giving us at least a little few dribs and drabs.
She can robes about what's been happening in the courtroom
this morning so far.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Right. In addition to letting us know that all five
of Rachel's children submitted statements to the court victim impact statements,
she also talked about Rachel's younger brother. His name is
John Moren and he had been living overseas, but she
said he gave a tearful testimony about He described it
as a tidal wave of grief that he's experienced losing
(04:09):
his sister. And we know that her second daughter also
gave a statement saying that she wishes she could have
done something different to save her. Her daughter is texting
with her that evening up until about seven pm, and
then all of a sudden their text just stopped being
returned and they couldn't get a hold of her. And
just what a scary thought for anyone who doesn't want
(04:29):
to think the worst. But even her boyfriend at the
time thought that maybe she was cheating on him. She
wasn't returning his phone call, she wasn't texting him back.
So all these folks talk about the fear and the
feelings they had in those moments when they didn't know
where she was and what had happened.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So it continues in court. The reporter again gives her
heads up a short time ago that there was a break.
So it seems like things were moving fairly quickly, and
they got in ten impact statements. You're reading this, it's
the same as I am got all them. In court
started around nine thirty am Eastern time, and just in
a matter of two or three hours they had all
(05:07):
those victim impact statements done. So we don't know how
much how soon we might have this wrapped up. And
here exactly when, excuse me, here exactly what his sentence
will be. There's little color heroes as well from the
reporter in the room about Martinez r. Nandez. Again, I
don't think we've mentioned his name, but Victor Martinez Rnandez
(05:27):
is the one who was convicted in this killing. But
said he has been stoic and barely showing any reaction
to the powerful emotional testimony being heard. It goes on
to say here that the prosecutor says that he even
laughed and joked during his psych evaluations earlier this summer.
So who knows what with this guy, but the I
(05:51):
think we see that oftentimes it's kind of amazing at trials,
people accused of doing the worst things you've ever heard,
and during victim this powerful emotional stuff, they sit there
with no look, no expression.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Of all, all vacant, as in, there's nothing inside of them.
It actually, when you were reading that, I actually felt
physically ill, just imagining the evil in this man and
knowing that he could have such a flippant attitude and
then perhaps just having zero remorse or zero expression of
remorse or anything. But it's interesting. Her mother has been
(06:24):
speaking out Rachel's mom over the last couple of days
to a lot of media outlets as she prepared to
give this victim impact statement. She said she'd been working
on it for months, because what do you say to
sum up your child's life, and what do you say
to the court in front of the man who took
your daughter's life. She was just trying to put her
thoughts together because it was an impossible task, she said,
(06:45):
to put it all in one statement. But interestingly, she
said the judge had given them very strict orders not
to address the defendant at all directly, and we've seen
that happen before in other sentencing hearings. But she said
they were specifically told the family members who were going
to stand up in court to address the judge and
not to ask the judge for any specific sentence, but
(07:06):
to express to the judge the loss and to express
to the judge what their lives have been like after
the loss of Rachel. So I thought those were interesting.
I hadn't heard that before that they weren't allowed or
weren't supposed to even look at or direct any of
their statements towards the defendants.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
We just saw this a couple week. Was it Coburger
in Idaho? I'm getting his name right otherwise.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes, that is exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But one of the victim's parents, he literally picked up
the furniture, turned the podium towards the guy, and went
off directly at him. Abbs, Absolutely, I've seen judges admonish
family member as kind as possible, But you are addressing
this court. You are not dressing an individual.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
As much as you might want to as much, I mean,
I can only imagine. And interestingly, Blair Sable, who is
in the courtroom that you just mentioned. She also talked
about Rachel's older brother, Michael, and this is I'm sure
it was a remarkable moment to witness in court, but
she reported that Michael told, well, I guess told the
court that he forgives the defendant man not because he
(08:11):
said his actions are excusable, but because he said God
sees all and forgives even the worst of sinners. I
think we can all understand that sentiment generally, but when
you are personally experiencing that kind of loss, with that
kind of violence, I find that remarkable. I really do
that someone could stand up to the court and say
that in the face of this monster, truly this monster.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean, you got to lean on something, man, faith,
that's you have to You have to put your faith
in something under these circumstances, and those circumstances were folks
will remember this was in August of twenty twenty three,
and Romes I'm not sure if no, there wasn't enough
time for there to be a missing person national story
(08:55):
because she was missing one day, reported missing that night
and she was found the next day. But this was
August fifth, as she went out, and she did. She
went out at night four run in this trail park
bel Air, Maryland. Do they call it the mon Pa
Heritage Trail?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, mon Pa because it's Maryland and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yes, so that's kind of cool. But between six and
seven they know, they were able to track her. She
made a couple of stops of a couple of stores.
But then you mentioned as well, her last text to
her daughter. She sent one to her daughter at seven
oh four, and that was the last time anybody ever
heard from her.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You know what's crazy. So her last text or her
daughter was at seven o four. Presumably she's walking or
set off on her run at seven oh nine. So
just five minutes later, that's when police believe Martinez committed
his crime. Based on video and Apple Watch and iPhone data,
they were able to say five minutes later she was attacked.
(09:51):
And then it was four hours later when her family
finally reported her missing. Her boyfriend, like I said, admitted
he thought maybe she was cheating on him. Where was she?
So he went and he found her car parked and
he walked the trail but didn't see her. It wasn't
until the next day that someone was walking noticed of
deer trail, like a smaller trail off the main trail,
(10:12):
and saw blood on a rock and that led them
to her body the next day.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So here we are, this is August of twenty twenty three.
Her body is found. They don't identify a suspect until
the following May. Wow, and again, this is an undocumented
immigrant who was in the country but rove this. You
gave me a heads up on this, and then I
went and found the dates. Okay, we say undocumented in immigrants,
so he came into the country. No, this is not
(10:38):
a guy who overstayed a visa. This guy and they
have it documented. That same year, January nineteenth, entered the
country in New Mexico illegally, was kicked out, tried again
twelve days later, into El Paso, Texas, was kicked out,
tried again seven days later, and Santa Teresa and got
(11:00):
kicked out. He finally ends up some kind of way
in Los Angeles and robes. That is where he is
accused of a pretty vicious crime out there against a
mom and her young child. And that's how they eventually
track him down through DNA from that crime, another vicious
crime in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And it's crazy if you think about him trying to
get in January and February. It was in March of
twenty twenty three, so somehow he got back in and
got to LA And yes, that DNA evidence from that
attack was how they were able to connect him to
Rachel Morin's death, which is just said that he was
able to stay in that country for however many months
later and then commit this other crime. And by the way,
(11:36):
he came into this country while there was an arrest
warrant for him in El Salvador for a murder of
a woman there too, So he's twenty three years old.
This is a violent man who just continued to commit
crimes and vicious crimes against women while in this country illegally.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So he was identified as a suspect on May twentieth.
They finally tracked him down June fourteenth. A positive DNA
match from his clothes and DNA from the murder scene
war issue for his arrest. He was picked up the
next day in Tulsa. He's off the streets from what
you just describe. Rove the guy in and out, in
and out in and out of this country, kept trying
(12:14):
and trying until he finally was able to get in.
A guy who has a murder warrant in his home country.
This is very easy to say this should have never
ever happened, and that Rachel Morin should be alive today,
And that is why it became such a political hot potation.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yes, even the sheriff in the county it was, Harford
County mentioned he said it shouldn't be political, but frankly
it is because it was the failure of our immigration
system that allowed this man to come into our country
and commit these violent acts. And that has to just
be You know, it's awful and unspeakable to have to
(12:54):
go through a tragy like this where someone who you
love has experienced this type of violence and this type
of death, and yet to know that it shouldn't have happened,
To know that this person shouldn't have been in our
country in the beginning is really difficult and I can't
imagine how that adds another layer of pain to all of.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
This, another layer of pain. Today is supposed to be
possibly a day of closure for this family, and again
we mentioned he's facing life in prison without the possibility
of parole, and that is as bad of a sentence
as he could possibly get because the death penalty is
(13:32):
not on the table. Yeah, we continue now talking about
a crime here against Rachel Moore, and mother of five, killed,
brutally raped, beaten, stabbed. Repeatedly we hear about this crime.
(13:56):
An undocumented immigrant has been found guilty of all of it.
But he's only facing robes life in prison without the
possibility of parole. That's his harsh of a sentence he's
going to get in Maryland.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's right. Marylyn does not have the death penalty. If
this had been a federal crime, we could have had
perhaps another outcome at this point. But this is what
prosecutors and her family hoped. That he never sees the
light of day. And given the circumstances surrounding this murder,
surrounding this attack, and the fact that he's accused of
other vicious attacks, one would think that this judge would
(14:27):
not stop short of doing exactly that, making sure this man,
this monster, never gets out of prison again.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, it hard to you know, I don't know all
the law and what he has to consider, but that's
a again it was four things. He was charged with
first degree premeditated murder, first degree rape, third degree sex offense,
and kidnapping. He was charged with all four. He was
convicted of all four and again Robes a refresher on
this trial. He was just convicted of all that in
April trial nine days, jury deliberated less than.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
One My goodness, and it's premeditated because they say, the
prosecution says that this man went to this park, in
this trail almost every day during that summer. He was
looking for his victim. He had photos of Rachel Morin
in his phone. He planned this, he premeditated this, and
she had a very I mean every day she went
(15:22):
to this trail almost like clockwork. And you know, if
you are a runner, and this is awful because no
one wants to put the onus on women to protect themselves.
But yet we hear time and time again. Mix up
your routine. Don't go to the same place at the
same time, try to run with a buddy, don't wear
airphone at AirPods. Try to be aware of your surroundings,
especially if you're on a wooded trail where you have
(15:42):
there's privacy, there's opportunity. For crime to take place, and
so you got to think she was just someone who
loved her evening runs, loved her evening walks, and we
should be able to do that as women and not
be fearful. But yet that all led, unfortunately to her
being this victim because he was. It seems as though,
according to the prosecution, please, he was stalking her. He
(16:02):
knew where she was going, and he knew when she
was going to be there, and he was waiting.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Didn't they some mention he had equipment or something out there?
He had tools at some point, even I believe so
to your point premeditation to this crime. We're keeping an
eye on the court room there and again our thanks
to the young lady, the reporter from wm a R
there in Baltimore, who has been really our eyes and
ears right now and giving up to the updates so
we can pass those updates along to you all. But
(16:28):
when we get more out of that courtroom, we certainly
plan to hop back on and let you all know
what ultimately happens. But as always we appreciate you listening
to us. From our partner, Amy Robot, I'm TJ Hal
talk to you soon,
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