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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, they're folks and Happy Sunday, June twenty second, and
welcome to this inspirational episode of Amy and TJ. In
case you missed our quotes of the Day on our
Monday through Friday runs last week on our Morning Ron.
If you missed them, this is where we collect them
all and give you a little background about where we
got them from and what they mean to us. Started
with the doozy on Monday Robes. Uh, you plucked this
(00:24):
one out, you had you know what, You have some
doozies this week. I'll give you that you have some
really good ones, but this was our one on Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yes, this is from Immam Ali born in five ninety
nine a d. This is our my way back quote
that's still applicable today. Two things define you. Your patients
when you have nothing, and your attitude when you have everything.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I like letting that one sync in because we've all
been or seemingly been in both places, and how we
react to that makes all the difference in who we are.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Have you done well in the past reacting to your patience?
Do you have patience when you have nothing when things
aren't going well?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No? I don't. Oftentimes and it's I think at a
certain point, it's recognizing it. Wow, I am now behaving
badly because I'm so frustrated or I feel so empty
and I feel like I have nothing left to give.
And so, yes, you don't give people or situations the
time they need to do what they're supposed to do
(01:31):
because you already feel like you're coming at it from
a death.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And your attitude when you have everything, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You might get a little proud and loud and some
hubrists might.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You guilty of that?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah? Of course, of course I'm guilty of all of
the above.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
How about you? None of it? Absolutely, none of it.
I'm cool with the cucuma, no matter what's happening around.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So you have humility as well. Apparently you're perfect. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You wouldn't want to go that far, but I'm as
h I'm working on it. No, of course, not freaking moron.
You know what I am better about? Patience? Now, that's
something that is a personal struggle. I mean for everybody,
not just me. But I said that patience when things
are not going your way, having the faith that things
are going to be okay later, And some of that
actually comes with experience of knowing, oh wow, I made
(02:18):
it through that other thing. I made it through that
other thing that I didn't think I was going to
make it through. So that helps. But yeah, the attitude
we could all work on when things are going your way,
when you're at the top of the chain, when everything's cool.
What kind of person are you? And those two moments
in your eye really can't tell you a lot about
a person, tell you a lot about yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, And so a quote like this, I think just
reshape your mind and hopefully I can recall this and
remember this when the moment comes, either good or bad,
where I'm going to need to remember this. Two things
define you. Your patience when you have nothing, and your
attitude when you have everything.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Incredible quote of the day on Tuesday came from my files,
even though I can't remember where exactly I got it.
I don't think this is I've heard variations of this,
and maybe I put it together and made it mine,
but I'm not quite sure. But you were where was
it we were speaking? Last time I remember saying this
publicly was in a crowd. We spoke to a group
(03:12):
of students Arizona and Journalism School. What were we doing
out there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We were actually covering the elections, the mid term elections,
and we were there and we were asked to speak
at the university yes journalism.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Students, and I gave the journalism students this quote, most
of your success before the age of thirty is based
on things you say yes too. After thirty, your success
is based on what you say no too, and rope
you say. You get to a point, maybe thirty thirty
five plus, where you have earned the rights to say
no yes.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
In fact, when I gave the commencement addressed to these
students at the University of Georgia a decade ago, my
theme was to say yes to everything, because you never know.
That's how you create your own luck. You're there enough times,
you'll be they're at the right place at the right time,
but you got to keep raising your hand and saying yes. However,
I feel like even this week you and I or
I have learned, maybe perhaps more from you, the art
(04:10):
and the power of saying no. I have a hard
time with that. Actually, I'm more likely to say yes
and then regret it versus putting my foot down, creating
a boundary and saying no. But We actually said no
to a couple of things this week and it felt empowering.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
But you say, even when you do say no, it
comes with some reasoning or logic, as if you have
a nation, justify why you don't want to do something,
go somewhere, or whatever it may be. And I do
I stay on you about this. You do, sweetheart. You
do not owe anybody any explanation. You're grown woman who
has the right to say no and leave it at that,
(04:44):
and that is something we have I have obviously worked
on you see me implement this question.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You have, you know, And I was told probably, I
mean at one point where I believe I was kind
of regarded as a doormat because as Gamy, she'll say
yes to everything. But when someone told me no is
a complete sentence. That's what you're referring to. You don't
have to explain, you don't have to give a reason why.
You can just politely say no nothings.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Okay, and don't feel bad about saying no to things.
And how many times I know you've we've had some
experiences here lately where we say no and it then
breeds other opportunities because you say no and then all
of a sudden, there's a new respect or oh, we're
not asking the right way, or we're not asking the
right thing, or we're not asking or we're not offering
them enough. So opportunities keep coming. After saying no, you
(05:30):
just set a new foundation, a new boundary for your boundaries.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Talk about boundaries.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
We set a new boundary. So take that with you, folks.
Most of your success before the age of thirty, it's
based on things you say yes to. After thirty, your
success is based on what you say no to.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
On Wednesday, our quote of the day came from Eleanor Roosevelt.
She is a woman who has if you look her up,
you google her. She has so many incredible words of wisdom.
I had never heard this quote before, and I loved
it because it's a reminder to all of us about
how we choose our words and how we spend our time,
what we spend our time talking about. Eleanor Roosevelt said this.
(06:05):
Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
discuss people.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So when we did that on Wednesday, I said afterwards,
I said, folks, be mindful of your conversation. Just pay
attention today and what is it you're talking about? And
what is it other people are talking about? That was
a great way to put it. It just sums up
a greater conversation. How much you can tell about somebody.
I think the person always sitting around talking about that person?
Want to buzz one of Was it chat? What is
(06:35):
it called? Again? I don't even gossip? That's it?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh yeah, gossip? Wait a minute, that's one of the
greatest evils. We have talked about this, and you know
when we've it's something that we've all participated in and
something we've all been subjected to or been the been
the subject of. And so we've been both victims and
perpetrators of gossip.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I think all of us, if every single person.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Can say, that's the truth, and so it's This is
also not just about looking at other people, but looking
at yourself and asking yourself, how often do I talk
about people? How often am I participating in gossip? Probably
way more than I'd like to admit.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You think you gossip, though, well, okay, gossip is a
stronger word. You could just be talking about people in it,
i'd be gossip. But I am trying to think now,
things you discussed I discuss.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
We know, it's just not a I can tell you
that I have made an active decision starting in my
mid twenties. Newsrooms are known. I mean, look, you've got
a bunch of people who are paid to talk about
people and events. It's hard to imagine that we wouldn't
be talking about one another. And I remember feeling toxic
and feeling like I was in a toxic environment, and
I gave up for lent that year gossip. That was
(07:41):
what I gave up for lent. I was twenty five,
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It was a rough lent for you, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Actually it was an enlightening one. And it actually showed
me how often I wanted to or was it about to,
And I was recognizing those moments when I chose not to.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So I were conscious of it. You were amazed at
how much you were doing.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Correct correct, And from that point on, I've tried to
be mindful of it. I've not been perfect. I've absolutely
participated in it, but I'm and especially after what we
went through the past two years, I've just been so
much more aware of it and really not going there.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Impact it can have on other folks. So, yeah, this
is a good one from Eleanor Rose Roosevelt. This week,
great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, Small minds
discuss people. That takes us to Thursday. You went deep
into your bag on these last few years, but Thursday
they were all great. But you've been pointing out and
(08:37):
you've pulled the past few weeks. I mean quotes from
centuries ago that if you heard on the street today,
you would think somebody just came up. They are modern
ideas and things were still working on that we still
haven't gotten right.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's remarkable, the universality of what this human experience is,
no matter when you were born or where you're from.
This came from goy Nasu, a Japanese office. Here is
what he had to say. Oh, I love this. Visualize this.
An entire sea of water can't sink a ship unless
it gets inside the ship. Similarly, the negativity of the
(09:12):
world can't put you down unless you allow it to
get inside you.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's it to me. Who can we blame? It doesn't
matter what's around you. You let it get in. Now
we got a problem. It's that simple. I've never heard
the analogy of a ship in that way. I mean
because I'm all way. We walked by the seaport yes
the other day and I looked at and said, how
are those things floating? I mean, you just they're amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They're tight wonders.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But a huge ship like that can be surrounded by
nothing but water, surrounded by the thing that can bring
it down, and still it makes it to its destination.
Just fine? Why can't we all do that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I will never truly look at a boat again without
thinking about this quote, and a reminder to me, a
reminder to all of us that we have the power
to chew, not to let negativity bring us down. When
we hear our thoughts and we all all have them,
start going negative, start thinking about what we should have done,
or what we could have done, or what's supposed to happen,
or what we wish had happened. All those negative thoughts swirling.
(10:13):
We can stop them. We can seal it up and say,
what's my next positive thought, what's the next best thing
I can think about? And really remember this amazing quote.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It is such a simple concept and the hardest thing
in the world to do any it is is that
this is not complicated. You don't need to have to
go to therapy for you. Don't have to read a
book do this thing, and it's just hard to do.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Interrupt, Interrupt the negativity and your energy will immediately change.
So here's the quote for you one more time. An
entire sea of water can't sink a ship unless it
gets inside the ship. Similarly, the negativity of the world
can't put you down unless you allow it to get
inside you.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
All right, and with that, folks, stay with us. We
got two more doozies for you when we come back.
One of them will clearly help you understand whether or
not you are depressed, anxious, or at peace today, and
the other will tell you how you can change the world.
Stay with us.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Welcome back to this Sunday edition of our Morning Run,
and we're bringing you our next quote. We brought you
this on Friday. This comes from Lao to a Chinese philosopher.
If you are depressed, you are living in the past.
If you are anxious, you are living in the future.
If you are at peace, you are living in the present.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I've read entire books talking about this very thing, and
it's just summed up in three sentences. I didn't need
to read the books. It's that simple. There's nothing else.
Talk about living in the present. That's it.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That's it amazing. If you are depressed, you're living in
the past. That is you know, any time you're feeling
down or way down, you're ruminating over either what you
did wrong, what someone did wrong to you, something that
already happened, something you wish you hadn't done, regrets, things
you want to change, nothing you can actually change. So
(12:20):
you are just spiraling over something that is unchangeable, and
therefore you are depressed because you can't do anything about it.
That makes so much sense.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And I threw anxious in your face very recently as
we were putting together a morning run getting ready. You
you know what I walked over to you? Did I not?
I walked over to you. I think I just kissed
you on the forehead and said I love you. And
I went back to sit down. First thing out of
your mouth. Okay, we got to get these other two record.
You immediately went to work, talk about something we have
(12:53):
to do down the road. You were anxious about something
we had to do. We were busy up against the deadline.
I was in the moment and having it with the
woman I.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Love and Sadly, I did not appreciate that moment until
you pointed it out, and then I really I reckon.
I was like, you know what, You're right, I should
have just said thank you baby, I love you too,
and actually just savored that present gesture and moment of love.
It was funny and yes, but it was a stark
reminder of Yes, when you're future casting, you're constantly thinking
about what you have to do, what you need to do,
(13:24):
what you're supposed to do, you are feeling anxiety, and
so yes, if honestly, and I'm not trying to poo
poo the notion that people do need anti anxiety medication,
sometimes in antidepressants. Of course that's a completely other thing.
But there are little things you can do to remind
yourself just from those immediate feelings of depression or anxiety,
maybe even situational that you're creating the situations in which
(13:47):
you are feeling the depression or anxiety. There are a
lot of things we can control.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Folks that use medication for anxiety. You maybe you know this,
maybe don't is it you usually treated? Or I guess
assume that it's there's something wrong, there is chemically something
off that needs to be corrected. Or is that anxiety
(14:12):
that you're treated for It's still all stems from you
thinking about a person thinking about something. How do doctors
actually treat that?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think it can be both. I think anxiety can
be treated through therapy, through recognizing what you're feeling so
anxious about. People get anxious about getting on planes. People
get anxious about yes, and that's all worrying that the
plane's going to go down. You know, So you're thinking
about worst case scenario and you can't stop your brain.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now, hey take that example for U. Yes, all right,
there you go. So somebody is anxious about getting on
a plane and they need medication, sanax or something. Yes,
So is that do the trick or should that person
could also be helped by going to therapy and getting
their mind to balm down in a natural way instead
of with.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Absolutely figure out absolutely absolutely. And I just love this
because if it's as simple as what this amazing Chinese
philosopher is saying, is it really is about redirecting your brain,
retraining your brain to be in the present moment and
to not be thinking of worst case scenarios. Look, I
was on anti anxiety medication for one year of my life,
and it was out of ann which probably a lot
(15:14):
of folks are familiar with, and that was when I
was dealing with my cancer. When I was going through treatment,
I had a tremendous amount of anxiety about dying and
I couldn't shut my brain off, and so I needed
help for a couple months for sure. And then as
soon as I felt like I had restabilized, I did
go through a lot of therapy. I stopped taking that
as soon as I could.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now in that this wasn't supposed to come an anxiety
medication podcast. One last question I have to just out
of curiosity, do you think, in what you went through
in that year in taking that anti anxiety anxiety medication,
if you didn't have it, could you have done whatever
work with a therapist to get you through it. Maybe
it would have been harder, maybe it wouldn't have been immediate,
(15:56):
But do you think you needed well help?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The reason why that help? Does it help me sleep?
It helped me and I wasn't able to sleep. I
couldn't turn my brain off, and so I couldn't sleep.
I'm on chemo, I'm trying to go to work. It
was a tool I was thankful for and grateful for.
If I had done more work with a therapist, perhaps
could I have done it without it? Yes, the answer
is yes, I think so. I think so, and everyone's different,
(16:21):
but this is just an amazing way to put it.
And then yes, when you are in the present, when
you're looking at there's always something you could be looking
at that's beautiful, that brings you back into the moment
you're in and something to be grateful for. So I
just I love that, and we have as we've been
doing this on Sundays. I love this. We have a
bonus quote for everyone, something we did not include in
our quotes of the day, but something to leave with
(16:42):
you with on this Sunday. This is from a very
famous author. If any of you have read The Alchemist,
one of my favorite books, I would I reread it.
I think I've read it twice. I'd love to reread
it again because there's so many gems in here. Paolo,
it's cello. I know how to cello cello. I looked
it up and now I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Paolo sell Us, this is I remember you taking time
to look it up? Is it?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm I think it's Paaloquello. Oh, I can't believe I
forgot it. Now, Paolo Quello, this is what he had
to say. The world is changed by your example, not
by your opinion.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Say that one more time, I put the people in
the back.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Everybody posts that on X today.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
That is remarkable. So many of us want to say
what we think and what we think should happen, and
what we think should be the case. If you just
do better and are better, that's the most powerful, powerful
way to enact change. It's not by what you say,
it's what you do.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And sometimes your opinion is setting a bad example. That's
true for how we talk to each other, how we
go back and forth. Look, we make mistakes, we have
tough moments, we are sometimes not at our best, typing
two hundred eighty characters, whatever it may be. But that
is so important that people want desperately to belong, desperately
(18:12):
to be a part of something, to be a part
of a movement, desperate to chime in in some way,
to think that they had an impact on it. But
you can have an impact by keeping your mouth shut
and going out and living and going out and living
and setting a good example. That is a powerful one
that I love. And man, you've been on it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know what. There are so many people who are
a lot wiser and smarter than me, and I love
leaning on there. I love leaning on their wisdom. It's
been fun. I've actually really enjoyed finding these quotes every day.
We hope you all have enjoyed hearing them and maybe
even making some adjustments in how you think and how
you live based on some of these wise men and
(18:52):
women of the world. So thank you for listening on
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Hey, they're folks and Happy Sunday, June twenty second, and
welcome to this inspirational episode of Amy and TJ. In
case you missed our quotes of the Day on our
Monday through Friday runs last week on our Morning Ron.
If you missed them, this is where we collect them
all and give you a little background about where we
got them from and what they mean to us. Started
with the doozy on Monday Robes. Uh, you plucked this
(00:24):
one out, you had you know what, You have some
doozies this week. I'll give you that you have some
really good ones, but this was our one on Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yes, this is from Immam Ali born in five ninety
nine a d. This is our my way back quote
that's still applicable today. Two things define you. Your patients
when you have nothing, and your attitude when you have everything.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I like letting that one sync in because we've all
been or seemingly been in both places, and how we
react to that makes all the difference in who we are.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Have you done well in the past reacting to your patience?
Do you have patience when you have nothing when things
aren't going well?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No? I don't. Oftentimes and it's I think at a
certain point, it's recognizing it. Wow, I am now behaving
badly because I'm so frustrated or I feel so empty
and I feel like I have nothing left to give.
And so, yes, you don't give people or situations the
time they need to do what they're supposed to do
(01:31):
because you already feel like you're coming at it from
a death.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And your attitude when you have everything, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You might get a little proud and loud and some
hubrists might.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You guilty of that?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah? Of course, of course I'm guilty of all of
the above.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
How about you? None of it? Absolutely, none of it.
I'm cool with the cucuma, no matter what's happening around.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So you have humility as well. Apparently you're perfect. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You wouldn't want to go that far, but I'm as
h I'm working on it. No, of course, not freaking moron.
You know what I am better about? Patience? Now, that's
something that is a personal struggle. I mean for everybody,
not just me. But I said that patience when things
are not going your way, having the faith that things
are going to be okay later, And some of that
actually comes with experience of knowing, oh wow, I made
(02:18):
it through that other thing. I made it through that
other thing that I didn't think I was going to
make it through. So that helps. But yeah, the attitude
we could all work on when things are going your way,
when you're at the top of the chain, when everything's cool.
What kind of person are you? And those two moments
in your eye really can't tell you a lot about
a person, tell you a lot about yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, And so a quote like this, I think just
reshape your mind and hopefully I can recall this and
remember this when the moment comes, either good or bad,
where I'm going to need to remember this. Two things
define you. Your patience when you have nothing, and your
attitude when you have everything.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Incredible quote of the day on Tuesday came from my files,
even though I can't remember where exactly I got it.
I don't think this is I've heard variations of this,
and maybe I put it together and made it mine,
but I'm not quite sure. But you were where was
it we were speaking? Last time I remember saying this
publicly was in a crowd. We spoke to a group
(03:12):
of students Arizona and Journalism School. What were we doing
out there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We were actually covering the elections, the mid term elections,
and we were there and we were asked to speak
at the university yes journalism.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Students, and I gave the journalism students this quote, most
of your success before the age of thirty is based
on things you say yes too. After thirty, your success
is based on what you say no too, and rope
you say. You get to a point, maybe thirty thirty
five plus, where you have earned the rights to say
no yes.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
In fact, when I gave the commencement addressed to these
students at the University of Georgia a decade ago, my
theme was to say yes to everything, because you never know.
That's how you create your own luck. You're there enough times,
you'll be they're at the right place at the right time,
but you got to keep raising your hand and saying yes. However,
I feel like even this week you and I or
I have learned, maybe perhaps more from you, the art
(04:10):
and the power of saying no. I have a hard
time with that. Actually, I'm more likely to say yes
and then regret it versus putting my foot down, creating
a boundary and saying no. But We actually said no
to a couple of things this week and it felt empowering.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
But you say, even when you do say no, it
comes with some reasoning or logic, as if you have
a nation, justify why you don't want to do something,
go somewhere, or whatever it may be. And I do
I stay on you about this. You do, sweetheart. You
do not owe anybody any explanation. You're grown woman who
has the right to say no and leave it at that,
(04:44):
and that is something we have I have obviously worked
on you see me implement this question.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You have, you know, And I was told probably, I
mean at one point where I believe I was kind
of regarded as a doormat because as Gamy, she'll say
yes to everything. But when someone told me no is
a complete sentence. That's what you're referring to. You don't
have to explain, you don't have to give a reason why.
You can just politely say no nothings.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Okay, and don't feel bad about saying no to things.
And how many times I know you've we've had some
experiences here lately where we say no and it then
breeds other opportunities because you say no and then all
of a sudden, there's a new respect or oh, we're
not asking the right way, or we're not asking the
right thing, or we're not asking or we're not offering
them enough. So opportunities keep coming. After saying no, you
(05:30):
just set a new foundation, a new boundary for your boundaries.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Talk about boundaries.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
We set a new boundary. So take that with you, folks.
Most of your success before the age of thirty, it's
based on things you say yes to. After thirty, your
success is based on what you say no to.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
On Wednesday, our quote of the day came from Eleanor Roosevelt.
She is a woman who has if you look her up,
you google her. She has so many incredible words of wisdom.
I had never heard this quote before, and I loved
it because it's a reminder to all of us about
how we choose our words and how we spend our time,
what we spend our time talking about. Eleanor Roosevelt said this.
(06:05):
Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
discuss people.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So when we did that on Wednesday, I said afterwards,
I said, folks, be mindful of your conversation. Just pay
attention today and what is it you're talking about? And
what is it other people are talking about? That was
a great way to put it. It just sums up
a greater conversation. How much you can tell about somebody.
I think the person always sitting around talking about that person?
Want to buzz one of Was it chat? What is
(06:35):
it called? Again? I don't even gossip? That's it?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh yeah, gossip? Wait a minute, that's one of the
greatest evils. We have talked about this, and you know
when we've it's something that we've all participated in and
something we've all been subjected to or been the been
the subject of. And so we've been both victims and
perpetrators of gossip.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I think all of us, if every single person.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Can say, that's the truth, and so it's This is
also not just about looking at other people, but looking
at yourself and asking yourself, how often do I talk
about people? How often am I participating in gossip? Probably
way more than I'd like to admit.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You think you gossip, though, well, okay, gossip is a
stronger word. You could just be talking about people in it,
i'd be gossip. But I am trying to think now,
things you discussed I discuss.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
We know, it's just not a I can tell you
that I have made an active decision starting in my
mid twenties. Newsrooms are known. I mean, look, you've got
a bunch of people who are paid to talk about
people and events. It's hard to imagine that we wouldn't
be talking about one another. And I remember feeling toxic
and feeling like I was in a toxic environment, and
I gave up for lent that year gossip. That was
(07:41):
what I gave up for lent. I was twenty five,
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It was a rough lent for you, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Actually it was an enlightening one. And it actually showed
me how often I wanted to or was it about to,
And I was recognizing those moments when I chose not to.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So I were conscious of it. You were amazed at
how much you were doing.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Correct correct, And from that point on, I've tried to
be mindful of it. I've not been perfect. I've absolutely
participated in it, but I'm and especially after what we
went through the past two years, I've just been so
much more aware of it and really not going there.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Impact it can have on other folks. So, yeah, this
is a good one from Eleanor Rose Roosevelt. This week,
great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, Small minds
discuss people. That takes us to Thursday. You went deep
into your bag on these last few years, but Thursday
they were all great. But you've been pointing out and
(08:37):
you've pulled the past few weeks. I mean quotes from
centuries ago that if you heard on the street today,
you would think somebody just came up. They are modern
ideas and things were still working on that we still
haven't gotten right.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's remarkable, the universality of what this human experience is,
no matter when you were born or where you're from.
This came from goy Nasu, a Japanese office. Here is
what he had to say. Oh, I love this. Visualize this.
An entire sea of water can't sink a ship unless
it gets inside the ship. Similarly, the negativity of the
(09:12):
world can't put you down unless you allow it to
get inside you.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's it to me. Who can we blame? It doesn't
matter what's around you. You let it get in. Now
we got a problem. It's that simple. I've never heard
the analogy of a ship in that way. I mean
because I'm all way. We walked by the seaport yes
the other day and I looked at and said, how
are those things floating? I mean, you just they're amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They're tight wonders.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But a huge ship like that can be surrounded by
nothing but water, surrounded by the thing that can bring
it down, and still it makes it to its destination.
Just fine? Why can't we all do that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I will never truly look at a boat again without
thinking about this quote, and a reminder to me, a
reminder to all of us that we have the power
to chew, not to let negativity bring us down. When
we hear our thoughts and we all all have them,
start going negative, start thinking about what we should have done,
or what we could have done, or what's supposed to happen,
or what we wish had happened. All those negative thoughts swirling.
(10:13):
We can stop them. We can seal it up and say,
what's my next positive thought, what's the next best thing
I can think about? And really remember this amazing quote.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It is such a simple concept and the hardest thing
in the world to do any it is is that
this is not complicated. You don't need to have to
go to therapy for you. Don't have to read a
book do this thing, and it's just hard to do.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Interrupt, Interrupt the negativity and your energy will immediately change.
So here's the quote for you one more time. An
entire sea of water can't sink a ship unless it
gets inside the ship. Similarly, the negativity of the world
can't put you down unless you allow it to get
inside you.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
All right, and with that, folks, stay with us. We
got two more doozies for you when we come back.
One of them will clearly help you understand whether or
not you are depressed, anxious, or at peace today, and
the other will tell you how you can change the world.
Stay with us.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Welcome back to this Sunday edition of our Morning Run,
and we're bringing you our next quote. We brought you
this on Friday. This comes from Lao to a Chinese philosopher.
If you are depressed, you are living in the past.
If you are anxious, you are living in the future.
If you are at peace, you are living in the present.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I've read entire books talking about this very thing, and
it's just summed up in three sentences. I didn't need
to read the books. It's that simple. There's nothing else.
Talk about living in the present. That's it.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That's it amazing. If you are depressed, you're living in
the past. That is you know, any time you're feeling
down or way down, you're ruminating over either what you
did wrong, what someone did wrong to you, something that
already happened, something you wish you hadn't done, regrets, things
you want to change, nothing you can actually change. So
(12:20):
you are just spiraling over something that is unchangeable, and
therefore you are depressed because you can't do anything about it.
That makes so much sense.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And I threw anxious in your face very recently as
we were putting together a morning run getting ready. You
you know what I walked over to you? Did I not?
I walked over to you. I think I just kissed
you on the forehead and said I love you. And
I went back to sit down. First thing out of
your mouth. Okay, we got to get these other two record.
You immediately went to work, talk about something we have
(12:53):
to do down the road. You were anxious about something
we had to do. We were busy up against the deadline.
I was in the moment and having it with the
woman I.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Love and Sadly, I did not appreciate that moment until
you pointed it out, and then I really I reckon.
I was like, you know what, You're right, I should
have just said thank you baby, I love you too,
and actually just savored that present gesture and moment of love.
It was funny and yes, but it was a stark
reminder of Yes, when you're future casting, you're constantly thinking
about what you have to do, what you need to do,
(13:24):
what you're supposed to do, you are feeling anxiety, and
so yes, if honestly, and I'm not trying to poo
poo the notion that people do need anti anxiety medication,
sometimes in antidepressants. Of course that's a completely other thing.
But there are little things you can do to remind
yourself just from those immediate feelings of depression or anxiety,
maybe even situational that you're creating the situations in which
(13:47):
you are feeling the depression or anxiety. There are a
lot of things we can control.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Folks that use medication for anxiety. You maybe you know this,
maybe don't is it you usually treated? Or I guess
assume that it's there's something wrong, there is chemically something
off that needs to be corrected. Or is that anxiety
(14:12):
that you're treated for It's still all stems from you
thinking about a person thinking about something. How do doctors
actually treat that?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think it can be both. I think anxiety can
be treated through therapy, through recognizing what you're feeling so
anxious about. People get anxious about getting on planes. People
get anxious about yes, and that's all worrying that the
plane's going to go down. You know, So you're thinking
about worst case scenario and you can't stop your brain.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now, hey take that example for U. Yes, all right,
there you go. So somebody is anxious about getting on
a plane and they need medication, sanax or something. Yes,
So is that do the trick or should that person
could also be helped by going to therapy and getting
their mind to balm down in a natural way instead
of with.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Absolutely figure out absolutely absolutely. And I just love this
because if it's as simple as what this amazing Chinese
philosopher is saying, is it really is about redirecting your brain,
retraining your brain to be in the present moment and
to not be thinking of worst case scenarios. Look, I
was on anti anxiety medication for one year of my life,
and it was out of ann which probably a lot
(15:14):
of folks are familiar with, and that was when I
was dealing with my cancer. When I was going through treatment,
I had a tremendous amount of anxiety about dying and
I couldn't shut my brain off, and so I needed
help for a couple months for sure. And then as
soon as I felt like I had restabilized, I did
go through a lot of therapy. I stopped taking that
as soon as I could.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now in that this wasn't supposed to come an anxiety
medication podcast. One last question I have to just out
of curiosity, do you think, in what you went through
in that year in taking that anti anxiety anxiety medication,
if you didn't have it, could you have done whatever
work with a therapist to get you through it. Maybe
it would have been harder, maybe it wouldn't have been immediate,
(15:56):
But do you think you needed well help?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The reason why that help? Does it help me sleep?
It helped me and I wasn't able to sleep. I
couldn't turn my brain off, and so I couldn't sleep.
I'm on chemo, I'm trying to go to work. It
was a tool I was thankful for and grateful for.
If I had done more work with a therapist, perhaps
could I have done it without it? Yes, the answer
is yes, I think so. I think so, and everyone's different,
(16:21):
but this is just an amazing way to put it.
And then yes, when you are in the present, when
you're looking at there's always something you could be looking
at that's beautiful, that brings you back into the moment
you're in and something to be grateful for. So I
just I love that, and we have as we've been
doing this on Sundays. I love this. We have a
bonus quote for everyone, something we did not include in
our quotes of the day, but something to leave with
(16:42):
you with on this Sunday. This is from a very
famous author. If any of you have read The Alchemist,
one of my favorite books, I would I reread it.
I think I've read it twice. I'd love to reread
it again because there's so many gems in here. Paolo,
it's cello. I know how to cello cello. I looked
it up and now I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Paolo sell Us, this is I remember you taking time
to look it up? Is it?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm I think it's Paaloquello. Oh, I can't believe I
forgot it. Now, Paolo Quello, this is what he had
to say. The world is changed by your example, not
by your opinion.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Say that one more time, I put the people in
the back.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Everybody posts that on X today.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
That is remarkable. So many of us want to say
what we think and what we think should happen, and
what we think should be the case. If you just
do better and are better, that's the most powerful, powerful
way to enact change. It's not by what you say,
it's what you do.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And sometimes your opinion is setting a bad example. That's
true for how we talk to each other, how we
go back and forth. Look, we make mistakes, we have
tough moments, we are sometimes not at our best, typing
two hundred eighty characters, whatever it may be. But that
is so important that people want desperately to belong, desperately
(18:12):
to be a part of something, to be a part
of a movement, desperate to chime in in some way,
to think that they had an impact on it. But
you can have an impact by keeping your mouth shut
and going out and living and going out and living
and setting a good example. That is a powerful one
that I love. And man, you've been on it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know what. There are so many people who are
a lot wiser and smarter than me, and I love
leaning on there. I love leaning on their wisdom. It's
been fun. I've actually really enjoyed finding these quotes every day.
We hope you all have enjoyed hearing them and maybe
even making some adjustments in how you think and how
you live based on some of these wise men and
(18:52):
women of the world. So thank you for listening on
this Sunday. We hope you have a wonderful day and
help you look for more in the NTJ podcast in
your Feet. If you haven't already, please please please, we'd
love it if you subscribed and checked out what we
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