April 26, 2025 • 28 mins
We’re trying something new this weekend - telling you “what got us” this week in the news - what kept us talking after we finished our Morning Run. From the Pope’s passing to Hegseth’s texts to his wife to the 60 Minutes upheaval and of course that powerful courtroom hug in Texas, we take you behind the scenes with Amy and T.J.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey there, folks, and welcome. We are trying something new.
We are a bit of a weekend edition of Morning Run.
If you listen to our Morning Run, there's so many
stories that we do report, but there's so much about
them that we don't get to talk about. So we're
calling this what got Us. So essentially, Robe was going
to tell people what got us about a lot of
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stories that we end up reporting. You and I oftentimes
get into debates behind the scenes that people don't get
to hear.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So once we're wrapped with Morning Run, sometimes we continue
the conversation, going back and forth about what we thought
about what happened. And so the idea then came to us,
what if we did a little weekly recap on the
weekends about what got us? And so here we are
and we'll just have to see if you all like
to hear what we have to say. So there's a
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little bit of a test, a little bit of an
experiment to see how many of you are interested in
what got us?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And we'll go from there.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And some of these things got us going, got us
worked up. Today we got nine stories we're going to
blaze through for you. Up. First, the pope died, Yes,
everybody's been watching that, but Robes. What got us about
the story and continues to get us about it is
the way the Vatican has really performed the past two
and a half months.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Really, I've been impressed because we can remember when we
were getting the daily updates and we joked that sometimes
they were only nine words with the update, and there
was a lot of accusations out there and distrust and
mistrust in the Catholic Church, saying they weren't being transparent,
they were hiding things the pope was already dead. Turns
out the Vatican was being extremely transparent, and in fact,
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we got really detailed information from the Pope's doctors afterwards.
And I've just been impressed watching them deal with and
handle the incredible amount of support that folks want to
give the Pope. They've you know, this is an organization
that's thought of being mysterious and following the rules it
all costs. They've kept Saint Peter's Basilica open throughout the night,
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extending hours really and truly being incredibly accommodating to let
people honor this pope and I've just been impressed given
what people typically think of the Church and the accusations
levied against it, and then seeing how they're really extending
and reaching out to the people in these times.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I wonder if some of that is in honor of him,
Maybe some of this is a part of the plans
he put in place. Who knows, but for two and
a half months it's been for an organization that's considered secretive.
I mean, they make movies, blockbusters about how secretive the
Vatican can be, and look, this is openly. I think
you were the one that brought to my attention. Originally
the guys who were trying to break into the hospital
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because they thought the pope was dead. And then after
they put out an audio, Vatican put out audio of
his voice, people still said, nope, still don't believe you.
They put out a picture of him, said nope, can't
see his face well enough. Right along the way, they
were doing the best they could, and look, turns out
they got it right in a lot of ways. And
you have to give them credit. And I never think
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of them ropes to your point of them being warm
and fuzzy, correct, right, the Vaticans seeing them. You know what,
We're gonna stay open all night so everybody can come
through and see them. That was a that was a
warmth to that gesture that I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, and they didn't get once they had set the
hours and decided, wow, look there are so many more
people who have been waiting in line and want to
see and pay their respects to the pope's body. I
was so I thought it was so cool. They said,
we're gonna stay open as long as there are people
in line, and if we have to close it, it's just
literally to clean it and we'll open the doors back
up again.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That was really cool to see.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
All Right. Our second story we got on this weekend
rap now is the h has to do with the
pope as well. Conclave. You might have seen Mike could
assume that, yes, it makes sense. Conclave the movie that
was just all the buzz anyway, because it had the
big oscar run. It was nominated like eight or nine nominations,
but it was a darling during this whole season, right
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of the award season. So sure enough, the Pontiff gets sick,
no surprise, people started watching it more and more so
the viewership went up after his death. But Robes what
got us was just how much it went up.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, what was the number? Two hundred and something.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Percent and eighty three percent.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But again, and I think it's cool because people are interested.
They're interested in the process, they're interested in the inner
workings of the Catholic Church, and we are going to
be seeing a conclave, and for some people it might
be the first time they've actually paid attention to it
because of the movie. So I think it's pretty cool
when you have and this is a phenomenal movie. It's
done so well, it's written so well, the acting is incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Have we watched it in the past couple of days?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Think, well, we've had it in the background, But it's
played at least three.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Times, perhaps since the pote passed, and.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We keep seeing things we haven't seen before and have
been we I like it even more now than I
did the first time I watched it.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
But part of this my fast nation goes up about
the conclave. It's such a secretive vote, might be the
most secretive thing that goes on as far as voting
in the world. But my fascination now is after watching
the movie and they kind of humanize the cardinals because
initially or in the years past, of course they're men.
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They're flawed people, but you still think of them in
some place as a this is a higher calling that
they could be above pettiness. But the movie kind of
shows they're just a bunch of high school girls fighting
over popularity, almost and it gets vicious.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, or a bunch of there's that one way to
put it. Or a bunch of US politicians vying for
the top job of president might not get that ugly.
But certainly there's wheeling and dealing behind the scenes, and
people are creating voting blocks and pitching themselves. I mean,
that's all going on because you're right, these are men.
They aren't deities. They aren't above human flaws, and so yeah,
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they're there is the same kind of politicking going on
behind the scenes that we see oftentimes in politics.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Why wouldn't they want this job. It's got to be
the most impossible job to get. I mean, it's easier.
I know we've had fewer presidents in the US, we're
a younger country anyway, but I'm saying it seems like
it would be more difficult. Your chances of getting that
job are less than becoming president of the United States.
So all these they know they're in there. They want it.
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If they say it or not, it's just in us all.
Wouldn't you want to of course you want it? Don't
They say that in the movie when you say it
to the guy, don't you want to be pope? He
says no. He said, Look, every single one of us
had already picked out a name.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yes, Stanley Tucci said that. Stanley Tucci's character says that, yes,
that has.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Been fascinating about why but yes, up two hundred and
eighty three percent. The conclave viewership story number three here,
also in line with this having to do with the conclave,
there is one if you saw the headline, there is
one cardinal who says he has a vote. To write
he has the right to vote for pope. The Vatican
says he doesn't. Giovanni Angelo Bechu is the name. And
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what got us about this story is that this is
even possible that there is a cardinal who could be
banging on the door saying let me in. And there's
an argument public now about whether or not he has
access and has the right.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
To vote for pope, and publicly he has said he
is going to because he doesn't see anywhere in Vatican
doctrine or laws that he cannot vote. Look, he was
convicted of a financial crime. He was sentenced to five
years in jail, So this is serious and it's on appeal.
So there's the asterisk, and so yes, or he has
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continued to live in the Vatican. He's been able to
keep his apartment while his case is still on appeal.
So while his case is still on appeal, does he
get to vote for pope? The Vatican says no. Cardinal
Bechu says yes, can't wait for this showdown, Like, honestly,
this will be something we will continue to follow because
we're fascinated by who wins in this one.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
This kind of plays out in Conclave as well. If
you've seen the movie, you know. But there's one point
the guy comes to ray Fines, who was running the conclave,
and says, hey, we got a problem. And ray Fines thought,
oh my god, did one of them die. We've lost
a cardinal. And the guy says, no, we've actually gained
one that.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
We didn't know we had.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We didn't know we had so he said, no, we
must have been left off the list. He said no,
he was never supposed to be on the list. We
don't know to think that something like that is actually
playing out to where there's an argument over whether or
not you're supposed to be let in the room. I
loved it. I would love to see him fight for this.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I think he's going to at least it sounds like
he was going.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
To the Cardinal bets you we'll see that plays out.
Our story number four back here in the US had
to do with the presidents suggesting he was in support
of the idea of giving women who have babies a
five thousand dollars baby bonus. That was the headline. What
got me Robes about this story is how much against it.
Initially he were at the sound of it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Because yes, I thought it was I What got me
was how gross that seemed that I'm going to get
a presidential push present.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I was like, that is just weird to me.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So, you know, incentivizing women or families to have more babies. Look,
I understand that there's a reason why he wants to
get the nation's declining birth rate up, but I think
there's a huge argument to be made that population control
also is an important part of moving forward. We are
you know, already exhausting Earth's resources? Do we really want
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to start paying people to have more babies so we
can have more Americans.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
In the world. There's just a part of me that
just is you to the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Okay, we don't know if this is going to happen
or not, but at least he didn't poopoo it, and
that's going to get a lot of people. I initially heard,
I wasn't thinking in the way you do as a woman,
and I didn't even know what a push present was.
But when I first heard, I'm like, oh, well, yes,
after going through that, why wouldn't you get that would
be nice, wouldn't it to just a nice little something
for having a baby? That's okay? And you turned me
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around pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well yeah, and by the way, I've never received a
push present. I've just I know other people who have
gotten one. So and it is a thing, and it's
become a bigger thing. And the husband's typically or the
baby daddy like that is traditionally what would.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Be not from a friend or family, specifically from the.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, thanks thanks sweetheart for pushing out this baby. Yeah, like,
actually that is what it's supposed to be and and
a lot of women are very excited to get one,
like we're talking jewelry, uh.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
The whole thing seems a little strange to me, but
to each there.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Out Okay, story number five here as I do with
the Defense Secretary Pete Hexth, it came to light this
week that he actually was texting war plans in a
second group text we didn't know about, but this one
included his brother and his wife. That was the headline.
What got us about this story is the debate about relationships.
(11:01):
How much are you supposed to tell your spouse now
when it comes to top secret information. I would assume
it's supposed to stop there. But don't people always if
your best friend tells you something, don't they assume you
would go home and probably tell your spouse or no?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yes, I always assume that whoever I tell something to,
especially if it's a woman, that she's going to tell
her husband. Now, if there is something that is very
sacred between us that I don't want her to tell
her husband or her partner, I will say, please, please,
please don't. I'm sorry to ask you this because I
know it's really hard not to tell your partner, but
i'd really ask you not to tell him. Can you
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trust that because my mom told me this, and I
believe this is true. Everybody always tells one person. You
can say, oh, I swear I won't tell anyone, and
everybody always tells one person. And with that in mind,
about twenty people end up knowing because everybody, especially if.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's juicy and topsycred information.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Look, I get it why you would want to include
your wife, just she's your partner, but maybe don't text it, like,
maybe just talk about it when you get home.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
My next question is that still wrong? Though? If you're
in possession of that type of sensitive information, should it
not be understood that Okay, maybe you don't have clearance.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yes, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But I even think maybe if he waited until he
got home and said, man, you wouldn't believe what happened today.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know, we bombed.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
But that's after the fact, whenever exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So that was my point.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
So it's after the fact that he could talk about
what it was like and how it felt and YadA, YadA, YadA.
But to give real time sensitive war plan information to
your spouse on a text, I just think, I don't.
I don't think that's defensible, well defendable.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Defending it, of course, saying there was nothing that was
top secret in that blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
But that was you get home.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But that was the first thing that jumped out at me, like, Wow,
I guess I don't know what I would not tell you.
I don't. I really don't. Just I don't know. I
don't have necessarily friends. We are telling me big enough
secrets that I think I think you would know.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, I mean what I'm talking about is a girlfriend
of mine will want to say something about her husband
or her don't tell your partner because then your partner
might tell my partner that I'm talking like. It's that
kind of a thing. We're not talking about highly sensitive information.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
All right, folks, We're gonna get to the last four
stories when we come back. Stay with us, because up
next another one that got us going on a kind
of a relationship front christin nom how does her purse
get stolen from a restaurant? She is the head of
homeland Security. Also coming up, Wendy's tried to smooth things
over with Katy Perry sixty minutes guy he quit. That
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just doesn't happen. And then there was a hug in
Texas that had us crying all morning this week Welcome back, folks.
Story number six for us on this weekend rap has
to do with Christian Yes, the Homeland Security Secretary was
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out at dinner this week, had her purse stolen. That's
the headline, including her badge, her house keys, checks. They
said three thousand dollars in cash. That was the headline.
What got us robes about this was pretty clear and
maybe this was yes everybody. This should have gotten everybody
going yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I mean, how so when we got the details because
we weren't sure how a masked white man was able
to get her purse. It was under her chair. Now
my mind is blown because you and I I mean,
you are a stickler. Your head is on a swivel,
as you like to say. You're always kind of looking
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and it's not your job. You're not a secret service agent.
You're just my partner, and you're always looking after my purse,
my phone, moving it closer. And we even had a
situation in Rome where we and you saw a woman
with her foot sit next to us and try to
take her toe and pull our bags and steal them,
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and we watched it happen because you were being observant,
and again we were out having fun on vacation.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
If your sole job as a secret.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Service agent is to protect the director of Homeland Security
and her have her in a safe bubble, how does
this happen? If that's your one job when you're there
at that restaurant, to be observing and making sure that
she is safe, and I would imagine her belongings are safe,
especially when you have a top clearance badge in that purse.
(15:34):
How in the world does that happen?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You just maybe think of something else now, the other
part of it, for somebody to get that close. I
didn't realize that the head of Homeland Security would be
in a restaurant, a public restaurant, and someone is sitting
physically close enough to her that they can slide their
foot under her table. I didn't think about that until
this moment. I mean, to everything you said that was
the thing she protects the homeland. I can't protect her purse.
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That's that seems I mean, maybe clearly missing something, some
little detail. Not trying to get These secret surface guys
do heroic work. Every single day. Obviously, it's just bizarre
that nobody in that group noticed anything like that.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I think it's above bizarre.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I think it's alarming and concerning, and I know that.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I hope that lessons were learned.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I guess at this point, like, if it happens to
you once, I've had it happen to me. Actually in
DC at a restaurant, I happened to be reading The
New York Times and saw something underneath my foot and
there was a woman on all fours literally she had
my wallet in her hand.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
She was lifting it out of my purse. So it happens.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What did did Joe make eye contact them?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I said, each other.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Wall drop my wallet. Now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
She threw it at me and ran out of the
restaurant as fast as she could.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, wouldn't it happen if I were I know? All right,
I'm the next door here at number seven. Wendy's and
Katie What the hell? The headline said that Wendy's was
trying to smooth things over with Katy Perry. Of course,
she went to Space Blue Origin that celebrity ride with
those other women, and she came back down. Everything was fine,
But then Wendy's responding to somebody's tweet about Katy Perry
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being back on Earth. They responded, can we send her back?
Everybody looked like, what is your beef with Katy Perry?
But they came back later and put out a statement
saying that they very much respect her and her talents.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I don't think you can say that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
They didn't apologize it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
They didn't apologize, but I don't think you can say
that and have tweeted what they did, or at least
put the comments that they did, because it wasn't just one.
There were two others that were equally I'm sorry, mean spirited.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, and I kissed the ground and I liked it,
and the other one was meaner.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I kissed the ground and I liked it, wasn't terrible,
but the other one was. It was something also equally mean,
And I just feel like I maybe i'm and we
are more sensitive to it, having been in a space
where we had negative headlines and have obviously lots of
negative comments. I just don't understand, and I don't like
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the idea that they're capitalizing or getting free publicity by
being mean spirited or by being snarky to the point
that it's just completely unnecessary, Like, what did Katy Perry
ever do to Wendy's Probably nothing, and so it's just
to me, it's an attempt. It's a deliberate attempt to
get attention, to get people talking about your brand, which
we are, but at the expense of another human being.
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And even though Katy Perry is a superstar, a pop
star and now yes an astronaut, whether people want to
debate that or not to use her and what she
just did for your gain by throwing your under the bus,
I'm never going to support that and it makes me
not want to go to Wendy.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Are we taking it too seriously? Were they just doing
what you said, getting a little attention, being a little
snarky and trying to do something a little edgy. And
some companies are doing this now, trying to have kind
of an edgy social media accounts. Fine, should we all
just take a joke?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, I think if everyone jumps on that bandwagon, we're
in a really ugly world at the expense of people's feelings,
and people still have feelings.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I don't care who you are, it's still hurts a
little and I get.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It is taking a joke. It's just a joke to
be able to take someone back, to send it back.
It didn't mean it for real. I mean, what is it?
Just a little joke, a little quip, and we should
not take it so serious. If it would me now,
I would hate it truly.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Off of course, I would feel sick to my stomach.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Actually, a brand that big getting that attention. Other question,
is it turning anybody off to Wendy's.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's turning me off to Wendy's.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Just wine, but you weren't. It's too hard.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I love Okay, I don't eat I don't eat best
food very often, but I do love a Wendy single
and they're.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Spicy, crispy chicken sandwich. I do and I have.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But honestly, the truth is, and people can disagree with me,
but if I have a choice, I will think about
that and I would make a decision not to choose
Wendy's because I just, especially with everything that we have
experienced in the last years, I am much more sensitive
to means spirited.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Uh, it's out there, it's marketing campaign this kind of.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Stuff, And I'm with you. You're more passionate and making
the argument here We've talked about it plenty, but it
just she had a nice moment. I mean, she put
herself out there for criticism with her music, with whatever
she does, and that is fine. We just it felt
it was too intentional to make a campaign that they've
made a mockery of her for the sake of getting attention.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Now that's what I don't like.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm asking if the attention for them. It doesn't work
for them because now people are talking about and that's
good enough. Maybe this is a huge success for them.
That scares the shit out of me because that means
they'll do it the next time. Exactly, they do it
the next time to the next person in the next person.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Okay, next up, all right, Story number eight here sixty minutes,
just lost as executive producer Bill Owen owens again bill
Owens quit. What got us about the story Robes is
that this is a scary direction we are going in
this industry that we have spent our entire career and
we love because it's this show, the most popular news
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show on TV, the most respected probably on TV. If
the guy at the top just says I'm done because
too many maybe political hands and things are being done
and I can't do my job. That's scary at hell.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It is because I won't speak for you, TJ, but
I will speak for myself when I say that as
a journalist you get to a certain level. We understand
that television networks are businesses and they have to be
profitable and they have to be careful about being sued.
But it is still our jobs as journalists to be
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able to tell stories in the way they're supposed to
be told, to tell stories that need to be told,
and to not shy away from stories that might piss
off important, big people, because those are probably some of
the most important stories to tell.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I've had the experience of having stories shelves. I have
had the experience of.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Not being able to report stories that are actually super important,
and it made me want to quit the industry as well.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I didn't have the balls to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So my hat's off to Bill Owens to have the
wherewithal to say I'm quitting. And just for perspective, in
almost sixty years the show has been on the air,
there have only been three executive producers. The point being,
when you get a job like that at sixty minutes.
You don't leave, you don't quit. It's what you've worked
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your entire career for. So for him to do that,
that is a huge statement.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You've been in the business long enough. We've all been there.
A story has been shelved, it has been changed, something
has been edited. Someone comes in after the fact, oftentimes
after the reporter us gets done with it. It's happened plenty
of times and does something because they're trying to protect
this interest or that interest. Look for us to act
like that doesn't happen day in, day out, every single morning,
(22:59):
it absolutely does. My thing that scared me here is
that this show is too if enough hands. I'm sure
he's used to executives here and there saying tweak this,
or do this, or can't you suggest this? But he's
had some degree of autonomy. If it is that bad
that he quit, then I think there's some part of
something going on behind the scenes that we haven't heard yet.
(23:23):
This is too important of a show, This is too
big of a deal to where it's that bad that
he had to quit. I'm not talking I've had stories
moved to different days because it goes with this lead
in better We're talking about that's not what we're talking.
But still those are decisions based on business, and that's fine.
I've had story. Nope, we're not gonna do that because
the audience that's work watching at this time is an
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audience between this age and this age and this demograph.
That's fine, that's a business decision, good story, but for business,
we're not gonna do it. That's still I've never I'm
gonna quit my job.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well, critical stories about people who need to be examined
and need to be questioned. When those stories are shelves,
When those types of people who have incredible power and
we aren't allowed to have critical stories about them that
actually need to be told, that's scary.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
See, I just don't know. I would love to hear
from this guy to know what really prompted. And this
couldn't have been overnight. Has had to be boiling for
a little while. So the last story that really got
us this week, if you haven't seen the twenty nineteen
massacre to Walmart and El Paso, that racist massacre. Man
went in and shot up that Walmart.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Twenty three, twenty four people were killed.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I believe in that. Well, he has been found guilty
down in Texas and this week for a couple of
days they had victim impact statements. Family members got to
get up and speak. But what got us Robes about
this story and had us in tears one morning as
we were reporting it was that one of the people
that got up she lost her brother. This killer shot
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and killed her brother. And Yolanda Tina Harrow is her name.
She asked the judge if she could go hug the
guy who killed her brother, and the judge said, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know, the phrase killing someone with kindness kind of
popped into my head. And she had the best of intentions.
But to have a heart so big that she was
able and knew the power of her love and the
power of her forgiveness might be and I'm not saying
the biggest punishment, but perhaps made this guy. We can
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only hope this killer feel the weight of his decisions
and instead show him that there is so much good
in the world, there is so much love in the world,
that someone like Yolanda could rise above the pain and
the anger she has to have inside of her for
what this man took away from her family and from
her and to be able to rise above that and
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hug him so that he could feel the love of her, her,
the love from the Hispanic community. She talked about how
if he had just given the Hispanic community a chance,
they would have opened their doors to him, they would
have made a meal for him, just to show him
how wrong he was about a community that, for whatever reason,
he chose to target.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
What was it, she said, Well, and the scene went
on for a while, it was like a full minute.
But he wasn't stand office. She by all reports, kind
of leaned into her, put his head even down on her,
and she was whispering to her to him. Don't know
what she said. I just she said, pain and forgiveness.
She wanted him to feel both of those things in
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her physical body. I want you to feel both of those.
And I don't know how she did it, but she
set such an example for all of us about kind.
That's just not something I think I'm capable of.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I think when I think about someone taking the life
of a family member of mine, I think of wanting
to do the opposite. I think of wanting to punch them,
tackle them, hit them, shoot them, like that's the kind
of anger you feel. So for her to be able
to harness that pain and turn it into something loving.
I am blown.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Away, you know, and it's They've had several years to heal,
but it has it's not done because this was a
big part of some finality to this story. So I'm
sure she's that the family has had time to heal
in a certain way, but going through this trial, all
those wounds open back up.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And to see his face, Yeah, I was just thinking,
like to see him, to see his face.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
The anger you would feel.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I cannot, for the life of me, I don't know
that I could get to where she is, but man,
that is something to aspire to. And just you know
what I was thinking, in the ways, in the little
ways that life irritates you, that people irritate you, that
someone a stranger or a loved one annoys you. If
you can just take a little bit of what Yolanda
had in her heart and think about that and change
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your brain and choose love and acceptance and tolerance at
least at the very least above that anger or that frustration,
that's something to take with all of us into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So with that, I want to say thank you to
Yolanda Tinnehero. It's been a rough news week in a
lot of ways, but she gave us absolute hope or
reason to smile and had us shedding a few tears.
But that feels good sometimes too, So we always appreciate
you all running with us, hanging with us, listening to us.
We sure thank you. And again, we're putting this up
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because there has been interests we have seen on weekend,
so we decided to maybe we'll give you something fresh
and some new fresh perspectives on something we've been reporting
on this week. So we're going to try it out
for now.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
But I'm DJ and I'm Amy Roebock.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Have a wonderful weekend, everybody,
Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey there, folks, and welcome. We are trying something new.
We are a bit of a weekend edition of Morning Run.
If you listen to our Morning Run, there's so many
stories that we do report, but there's so much about
them that we don't get to talk about. So we're
calling this what got Us. So essentially, Robe was going
to tell people what got us about a lot of
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stories that we end up reporting. You and I oftentimes
get into debates behind the scenes that people don't get
to hear.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So once we're wrapped with Morning Run, sometimes we continue
the conversation, going back and forth about what we thought
about what happened. And so the idea then came to us,
what if we did a little weekly recap on the
weekends about what got us? And so here we are
and we'll just have to see if you all like
to hear what we have to say. So there's a
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little bit of a test, a little bit of an
experiment to see how many of you are interested in
what got us?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And we'll go from there.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And some of these things got us going, got us
worked up. Today we got nine stories we're going to
blaze through for you. Up. First, the pope died, Yes,
everybody's been watching that, but Robes. What got us about
the story and continues to get us about it is
the way the Vatican has really performed the past two
and a half months.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Really, I've been impressed because we can remember when we
were getting the daily updates and we joked that sometimes
they were only nine words with the update, and there
was a lot of accusations out there and distrust and
mistrust in the Catholic Church, saying they weren't being transparent,
they were hiding things the pope was already dead. Turns
out the Vatican was being extremely transparent, and in fact,
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we got really detailed information from the Pope's doctors afterwards.
And I've just been impressed watching them deal with and
handle the incredible amount of support that folks want to
give the Pope. They've you know, this is an organization
that's thought of being mysterious and following the rules it
all costs. They've kept Saint Peter's Basilica open throughout the night,
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extending hours really and truly being incredibly accommodating to let
people honor this pope and I've just been impressed given
what people typically think of the Church and the accusations
levied against it, and then seeing how they're really extending
and reaching out to the people in these times.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I wonder if some of that is in honor of him,
Maybe some of this is a part of the plans
he put in place. Who knows, but for two and
a half months it's been for an organization that's considered secretive.
I mean, they make movies, blockbusters about how secretive the
Vatican can be, and look, this is openly. I think
you were the one that brought to my attention. Originally
the guys who were trying to break into the hospital
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because they thought the pope was dead. And then after
they put out an audio, Vatican put out audio of
his voice, people still said, nope, still don't believe you.
They put out a picture of him, said nope, can't
see his face well enough. Right along the way, they
were doing the best they could, and look, turns out
they got it right in a lot of ways. And
you have to give them credit. And I never think
(03:03):
of them ropes to your point of them being warm
and fuzzy, correct, right, the Vaticans seeing them. You know what,
We're gonna stay open all night so everybody can come
through and see them. That was a that was a
warmth to that gesture that I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, and they didn't get once they had set the
hours and decided, wow, look there are so many more
people who have been waiting in line and want to
see and pay their respects to the pope's body. I
was so I thought it was so cool. They said,
we're gonna stay open as long as there are people
in line, and if we have to close it, it's just
literally to clean it and we'll open the doors back
up again.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That was really cool to see.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
All Right. Our second story we got on this weekend
rap now is the h has to do with the
pope as well. Conclave. You might have seen Mike could
assume that, yes, it makes sense. Conclave the movie that
was just all the buzz anyway, because it had the
big oscar run. It was nominated like eight or nine nominations,
but it was a darling during this whole season, right
(04:00):
of the award season. So sure enough, the Pontiff gets sick,
no surprise, people started watching it more and more so
the viewership went up after his death. But Robes what
got us was just how much it went up.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, what was the number? Two hundred and something.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Percent and eighty three percent.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But again, and I think it's cool because people are interested.
They're interested in the process, they're interested in the inner
workings of the Catholic Church, and we are going to
be seeing a conclave, and for some people it might
be the first time they've actually paid attention to it
because of the movie. So I think it's pretty cool
when you have and this is a phenomenal movie. It's
done so well, it's written so well, the acting is incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Have we watched it in the past couple of days?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Think, well, we've had it in the background, But it's
played at least three.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Times, perhaps since the pote passed, and.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We keep seeing things we haven't seen before and have
been we I like it even more now than I
did the first time I watched it.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
But part of this my fast nation goes up about
the conclave. It's such a secretive vote, might be the
most secretive thing that goes on as far as voting
in the world. But my fascination now is after watching
the movie and they kind of humanize the cardinals because
initially or in the years past, of course they're men.
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They're flawed people, but you still think of them in
some place as a this is a higher calling that
they could be above pettiness. But the movie kind of
shows they're just a bunch of high school girls fighting
over popularity, almost and it gets vicious.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, or a bunch of there's that one way to
put it. Or a bunch of US politicians vying for
the top job of president might not get that ugly.
But certainly there's wheeling and dealing behind the scenes, and
people are creating voting blocks and pitching themselves. I mean,
that's all going on because you're right, these are men.
They aren't deities. They aren't above human flaws, and so yeah,
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they're there is the same kind of politicking going on
behind the scenes that we see oftentimes in politics.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Why wouldn't they want this job. It's got to be
the most impossible job to get. I mean, it's easier.
I know we've had fewer presidents in the US, we're
a younger country anyway, but I'm saying it seems like
it would be more difficult. Your chances of getting that
job are less than becoming president of the United States.
So all these they know they're in there. They want it.
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If they say it or not, it's just in us all.
Wouldn't you want to of course you want it? Don't
They say that in the movie when you say it
to the guy, don't you want to be pope? He
says no. He said, Look, every single one of us
had already picked out a name.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yes, Stanley Tucci said that. Stanley Tucci's character says that, yes,
that has.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Been fascinating about why but yes, up two hundred and
eighty three percent. The conclave viewership story number three here,
also in line with this having to do with the conclave,
there is one if you saw the headline, there is
one cardinal who says he has a vote. To write
he has the right to vote for pope. The Vatican
says he doesn't. Giovanni Angelo Bechu is the name. And
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what got us about this story is that this is
even possible that there is a cardinal who could be
banging on the door saying let me in. And there's
an argument public now about whether or not he has
access and has the right.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
To vote for pope, and publicly he has said he
is going to because he doesn't see anywhere in Vatican
doctrine or laws that he cannot vote. Look, he was
convicted of a financial crime. He was sentenced to five
years in jail, So this is serious and it's on appeal.
So there's the asterisk, and so yes, or he has
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continued to live in the Vatican. He's been able to
keep his apartment while his case is still on appeal.
So while his case is still on appeal, does he
get to vote for pope? The Vatican says no. Cardinal
Bechu says yes, can't wait for this showdown, Like, honestly,
this will be something we will continue to follow because
we're fascinated by who wins in this one.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
This kind of plays out in Conclave as well. If
you've seen the movie, you know. But there's one point
the guy comes to ray Fines, who was running the conclave,
and says, hey, we got a problem. And ray Fines thought,
oh my god, did one of them die. We've lost
a cardinal. And the guy says, no, we've actually gained
one that.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
We didn't know we had.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We didn't know we had so he said, no, we
must have been left off the list. He said no,
he was never supposed to be on the list. We
don't know to think that something like that is actually
playing out to where there's an argument over whether or
not you're supposed to be let in the room. I
loved it. I would love to see him fight for this.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I think he's going to at least it sounds like
he was going.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
To the Cardinal bets you we'll see that plays out.
Our story number four back here in the US had
to do with the presidents suggesting he was in support
of the idea of giving women who have babies a
five thousand dollars baby bonus. That was the headline. What
got me Robes about this story is how much against it.
Initially he were at the sound of it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Because yes, I thought it was I What got me
was how gross that seemed that I'm going to get
a presidential push present.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I was like, that is just weird to me.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So, you know, incentivizing women or families to have more babies. Look,
I understand that there's a reason why he wants to
get the nation's declining birth rate up, but I think
there's a huge argument to be made that population control
also is an important part of moving forward. We are
you know, already exhausting Earth's resources? Do we really want
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to start paying people to have more babies so we
can have more Americans.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
In the world. There's just a part of me that
just is you to the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Okay, we don't know if this is going to happen
or not, but at least he didn't poopoo it, and
that's going to get a lot of people. I initially heard,
I wasn't thinking in the way you do as a woman,
and I didn't even know what a push present was.
But when I first heard, I'm like, oh, well, yes,
after going through that, why wouldn't you get that would
be nice, wouldn't it to just a nice little something
for having a baby? That's okay? And you turned me
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around pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well yeah, and by the way, I've never received a
push present. I've just I know other people who have
gotten one. So and it is a thing, and it's
become a bigger thing. And the husband's typically or the
baby daddy like that is traditionally what would.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Be not from a friend or family, specifically from the.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, thanks thanks sweetheart for pushing out this baby. Yeah, like,
actually that is what it's supposed to be and and
a lot of women are very excited to get one,
like we're talking jewelry, uh.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
The whole thing seems a little strange to me, but
to each there.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Out Okay, story number five here as I do with
the Defense Secretary Pete Hexth, it came to light this
week that he actually was texting war plans in a
second group text we didn't know about, but this one
included his brother and his wife. That was the headline.
What got us about this story is the debate about relationships.
(11:01):
How much are you supposed to tell your spouse now
when it comes to top secret information. I would assume
it's supposed to stop there. But don't people always if
your best friend tells you something, don't they assume you
would go home and probably tell your spouse or no?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yes, I always assume that whoever I tell something to,
especially if it's a woman, that she's going to tell
her husband. Now, if there is something that is very
sacred between us that I don't want her to tell
her husband or her partner, I will say, please, please,
please don't. I'm sorry to ask you this because I
know it's really hard not to tell your partner, but
i'd really ask you not to tell him. Can you
(11:40):
trust that because my mom told me this, and I
believe this is true. Everybody always tells one person. You
can say, oh, I swear I won't tell anyone, and
everybody always tells one person. And with that in mind,
about twenty people end up knowing because everybody, especially if.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's juicy and topsycred information.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Look, I get it why you would want to include
your wife, just she's your partner, but maybe don't text it, like,
maybe just talk about it when you get home.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
My next question is that still wrong? Though? If you're
in possession of that type of sensitive information, should it
not be understood that Okay, maybe you don't have clearance.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yes, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But I even think maybe if he waited until he
got home and said, man, you wouldn't believe what happened today.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know, we bombed.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
But that's after the fact, whenever exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So that was my point.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
So it's after the fact that he could talk about
what it was like and how it felt and YadA, YadA, YadA.
But to give real time sensitive war plan information to
your spouse on a text, I just think, I don't.
I don't think that's defensible, well defendable.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Defending it, of course, saying there was nothing that was
top secret in that blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
But that was you get home.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But that was the first thing that jumped out at me, like, Wow,
I guess I don't know what I would not tell you.
I don't. I really don't. Just I don't know. I
don't have necessarily friends. We are telling me big enough
secrets that I think I think you would know.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, I mean what I'm talking about is a girlfriend
of mine will want to say something about her husband
or her don't tell your partner because then your partner
might tell my partner that I'm talking like. It's that
kind of a thing. We're not talking about highly sensitive information.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
All right, folks, We're gonna get to the last four
stories when we come back. Stay with us, because up
next another one that got us going on a kind
of a relationship front christin nom how does her purse
get stolen from a restaurant? She is the head of
homeland Security. Also coming up, Wendy's tried to smooth things
over with Katy Perry sixty minutes guy he quit. That
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just doesn't happen. And then there was a hug in
Texas that had us crying all morning this week Welcome back, folks.
Story number six for us on this weekend rap has
to do with Christian Yes, the Homeland Security Secretary was
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out at dinner this week, had her purse stolen. That's
the headline, including her badge, her house keys, checks. They
said three thousand dollars in cash. That was the headline.
What got us robes about this was pretty clear and
maybe this was yes everybody. This should have gotten everybody
going yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I mean, how so when we got the details because
we weren't sure how a masked white man was able
to get her purse. It was under her chair. Now
my mind is blown because you and I I mean,
you are a stickler. Your head is on a swivel,
as you like to say. You're always kind of looking
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and it's not your job. You're not a secret service agent.
You're just my partner, and you're always looking after my purse,
my phone, moving it closer. And we even had a
situation in Rome where we and you saw a woman
with her foot sit next to us and try to
take her toe and pull our bags and steal them,
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and we watched it happen because you were being observant,
and again we were out having fun on vacation.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
If your sole job as a secret.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Service agent is to protect the director of Homeland Security
and her have her in a safe bubble, how does
this happen? If that's your one job when you're there
at that restaurant, to be observing and making sure that
she is safe, and I would imagine her belongings are safe,
especially when you have a top clearance badge in that purse.
(15:34):
How in the world does that happen?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You just maybe think of something else now, the other
part of it, for somebody to get that close. I
didn't realize that the head of Homeland Security would be
in a restaurant, a public restaurant, and someone is sitting
physically close enough to her that they can slide their
foot under her table. I didn't think about that until
this moment. I mean, to everything you said that was
the thing she protects the homeland. I can't protect her purse.
(16:02):
That's that seems I mean, maybe clearly missing something, some
little detail. Not trying to get These secret surface guys
do heroic work. Every single day. Obviously, it's just bizarre
that nobody in that group noticed anything like that.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I think it's above bizarre.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I think it's alarming and concerning, and I know that.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I hope that lessons were learned.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I guess at this point, like, if it happens to
you once, I've had it happen to me. Actually in
DC at a restaurant, I happened to be reading The
New York Times and saw something underneath my foot and
there was a woman on all fours literally she had
my wallet in her hand.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
She was lifting it out of my purse. So it happens.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What did did Joe make eye contact them?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I said, each other.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Wall drop my wallet. Now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
She threw it at me and ran out of the
restaurant as fast as she could.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, wouldn't it happen if I were I know? All right,
I'm the next door here at number seven. Wendy's and
Katie What the hell? The headline said that Wendy's was
trying to smooth things over with Katy Perry. Of course,
she went to Space Blue Origin that celebrity ride with
those other women, and she came back down. Everything was fine,
But then Wendy's responding to somebody's tweet about Katy Perry
(17:16):
being back on Earth. They responded, can we send her back?
Everybody looked like, what is your beef with Katy Perry?
But they came back later and put out a statement
saying that they very much respect her and her talents.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I don't think you can say that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
They didn't apologize it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
They didn't apologize, but I don't think you can say
that and have tweeted what they did, or at least
put the comments that they did, because it wasn't just one.
There were two others that were equally I'm sorry, mean spirited.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, and I kissed the ground and I liked it,
and the other one was meaner.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I kissed the ground and I liked it, wasn't terrible,
but the other one was. It was something also equally mean,
And I just feel like I maybe i'm and we
are more sensitive to it, having been in a space
where we had negative headlines and have obviously lots of
negative comments. I just don't understand, and I don't like
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the idea that they're capitalizing or getting free publicity by
being mean spirited or by being snarky to the point
that it's just completely unnecessary, Like, what did Katy Perry
ever do to Wendy's Probably nothing, and so it's just
to me, it's an attempt. It's a deliberate attempt to
get attention, to get people talking about your brand, which
we are, but at the expense of another human being.
(18:32):
And even though Katy Perry is a superstar, a pop
star and now yes an astronaut, whether people want to
debate that or not to use her and what she
just did for your gain by throwing your under the bus,
I'm never going to support that and it makes me
not want to go to Wendy.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Are we taking it too seriously? Were they just doing
what you said, getting a little attention, being a little
snarky and trying to do something a little edgy. And
some companies are doing this now, trying to have kind
of an edgy social media accounts. Fine, should we all
just take a joke?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, I think if everyone jumps on that bandwagon, we're
in a really ugly world at the expense of people's feelings,
and people still have feelings.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I don't care who you are, it's still hurts a
little and I get.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It is taking a joke. It's just a joke to
be able to take someone back, to send it back.
It didn't mean it for real. I mean, what is it?
Just a little joke, a little quip, and we should
not take it so serious. If it would me now,
I would hate it truly.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Off of course, I would feel sick to my stomach.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Actually, a brand that big getting that attention. Other question,
is it turning anybody off to Wendy's.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's turning me off to Wendy's.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Just wine, but you weren't. It's too hard.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I love Okay, I don't eat I don't eat best
food very often, but I do love a Wendy single
and they're.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Spicy, crispy chicken sandwich. I do and I have.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But honestly, the truth is, and people can disagree with me,
but if I have a choice, I will think about
that and I would make a decision not to choose
Wendy's because I just, especially with everything that we have
experienced in the last years, I am much more sensitive
to means spirited.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Uh, it's out there, it's marketing campaign this kind of.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Stuff, And I'm with you. You're more passionate and making
the argument here We've talked about it plenty, but it
just she had a nice moment. I mean, she put
herself out there for criticism with her music, with whatever
she does, and that is fine. We just it felt
it was too intentional to make a campaign that they've
made a mockery of her for the sake of getting attention.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Now that's what I don't like.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm asking if the attention for them. It doesn't work
for them because now people are talking about and that's
good enough. Maybe this is a huge success for them.
That scares the shit out of me because that means
they'll do it the next time. Exactly, they do it
the next time to the next person in the next person.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Okay, next up, all right, Story number eight here sixty minutes,
just lost as executive producer Bill Owen owens again bill
Owens quit. What got us about the story Robes is
that this is a scary direction we are going in
this industry that we have spent our entire career and
we love because it's this show, the most popular news
(21:07):
show on TV, the most respected probably on TV. If
the guy at the top just says I'm done because
too many maybe political hands and things are being done
and I can't do my job. That's scary at hell.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It is because I won't speak for you, TJ, but
I will speak for myself when I say that as
a journalist you get to a certain level. We understand
that television networks are businesses and they have to be
profitable and they have to be careful about being sued.
But it is still our jobs as journalists to be
(21:44):
able to tell stories in the way they're supposed to
be told, to tell stories that need to be told,
and to not shy away from stories that might piss
off important, big people, because those are probably some of
the most important stories to tell.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I've had the experience of having stories shelves. I have
had the experience of.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Not being able to report stories that are actually super important,
and it made me want to quit the industry as well.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I didn't have the balls to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So my hat's off to Bill Owens to have the
wherewithal to say I'm quitting. And just for perspective, in
almost sixty years the show has been on the air,
there have only been three executive producers. The point being,
when you get a job like that at sixty minutes.
You don't leave, you don't quit. It's what you've worked
(22:31):
your entire career for. So for him to do that,
that is a huge statement.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You've been in the business long enough. We've all been there.
A story has been shelved, it has been changed, something
has been edited. Someone comes in after the fact, oftentimes
after the reporter us gets done with it. It's happened plenty
of times and does something because they're trying to protect
this interest or that interest. Look for us to act
like that doesn't happen day in, day out, every single morning,
(22:59):
it absolutely does. My thing that scared me here is
that this show is too if enough hands. I'm sure
he's used to executives here and there saying tweak this,
or do this, or can't you suggest this? But he's
had some degree of autonomy. If it is that bad
that he quit, then I think there's some part of
something going on behind the scenes that we haven't heard yet.
(23:23):
This is too important of a show, This is too
big of a deal to where it's that bad that
he had to quit. I'm not talking I've had stories
moved to different days because it goes with this lead
in better We're talking about that's not what we're talking.
But still those are decisions based on business, and that's fine.
I've had story. Nope, we're not gonna do that because
the audience that's work watching at this time is an
(23:43):
audience between this age and this age and this demograph.
That's fine, that's a business decision, good story, but for business,
we're not gonna do it. That's still I've never I'm
gonna quit my job.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well, critical stories about people who need to be examined
and need to be questioned. When those stories are shelves,
When those types of people who have incredible power and
we aren't allowed to have critical stories about them that
actually need to be told, that's scary.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
See, I just don't know. I would love to hear
from this guy to know what really prompted. And this
couldn't have been overnight. Has had to be boiling for
a little while. So the last story that really got
us this week, if you haven't seen the twenty nineteen
massacre to Walmart and El Paso, that racist massacre. Man
went in and shot up that Walmart.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Twenty three, twenty four people were killed.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I believe in that. Well, he has been found guilty
down in Texas and this week for a couple of
days they had victim impact statements. Family members got to
get up and speak. But what got us Robes about
this story and had us in tears one morning as
we were reporting it was that one of the people
that got up she lost her brother. This killer shot
(24:59):
and killed her brother. And Yolanda Tina Harrow is her name.
She asked the judge if she could go hug the
guy who killed her brother, and the judge said, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know, the phrase killing someone with kindness kind of
popped into my head. And she had the best of intentions.
But to have a heart so big that she was
able and knew the power of her love and the
power of her forgiveness might be and I'm not saying
the biggest punishment, but perhaps made this guy. We can
(25:34):
only hope this killer feel the weight of his decisions
and instead show him that there is so much good
in the world, there is so much love in the world,
that someone like Yolanda could rise above the pain and
the anger she has to have inside of her for
what this man took away from her family and from
her and to be able to rise above that and
(25:56):
hug him so that he could feel the love of her, her,
the love from the Hispanic community. She talked about how
if he had just given the Hispanic community a chance,
they would have opened their doors to him, they would
have made a meal for him, just to show him
how wrong he was about a community that, for whatever reason,
he chose to target.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
What was it, she said, Well, and the scene went
on for a while, it was like a full minute.
But he wasn't stand office. She by all reports, kind
of leaned into her, put his head even down on her,
and she was whispering to her to him. Don't know
what she said. I just she said, pain and forgiveness.
She wanted him to feel both of those things in
(26:39):
her physical body. I want you to feel both of those.
And I don't know how she did it, but she
set such an example for all of us about kind.
That's just not something I think I'm capable of.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I think when I think about someone taking the life
of a family member of mine, I think of wanting
to do the opposite. I think of wanting to punch them,
tackle them, hit them, shoot them, like that's the kind
of anger you feel. So for her to be able
to harness that pain and turn it into something loving.
I am blown.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Away, you know, and it's They've had several years to heal,
but it has it's not done because this was a
big part of some finality to this story. So I'm
sure she's that the family has had time to heal
in a certain way, but going through this trial, all
those wounds open back up.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And to see his face, Yeah, I was just thinking,
like to see him, to see his face.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
The anger you would feel.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I cannot, for the life of me, I don't know
that I could get to where she is, but man,
that is something to aspire to. And just you know
what I was thinking, in the ways, in the little
ways that life irritates you, that people irritate you, that
someone a stranger or a loved one annoys you. If
you can just take a little bit of what Yolanda
had in her heart and think about that and change
(27:59):
your brain and choose love and acceptance and tolerance at
least at the very least above that anger or that frustration,
that's something to take with all of us into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So with that, I want to say thank you to
Yolanda Tinnehero. It's been a rough news week in a
lot of ways, but she gave us absolute hope or
reason to smile and had us shedding a few tears.
But that feels good sometimes too, So we always appreciate
you all running with us, hanging with us, listening to us.
We sure thank you. And again, we're putting this up
(28:34):
because there has been interests we have seen on weekend,
so we decided to maybe we'll give you something fresh
and some new fresh perspectives on something we've been reporting
on this week. So we're going to try it out
for now.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
But I'm DJ and I'm Amy Roebock.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Have a wonderful weekend, everybody,
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