January 31, 2021 • 65 mins
Bachelor fan favorite Dr. Joe Park is answering your medical questions and your questions about love. What better combo than a Bachelor stud and an anesthesiologist!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This
is how men thick and I heard radio podcast, so yes,
this is how men think, even though you hear the
voice of the ladies right now. This is Amy and
Daniels here too, and we have all the ladies here today,
but we are turning the show over today to Dr
(00:25):
Joe Park. Now we call you Joe because I'm the bachelor.
You were Joe, but your zoom, says Joseph, So what
do you go by at the hospital? At the hospital,
I go by Dr Park, So none of the above.
But you called whatever you want, Joe, Dr Joe. What
did Tisha call you? What did call you? She called
(00:47):
me Joe. You know, we're there. We got there. It
was fine. So how many of your patients now are like, uh, Houstasia.
You know people ask you that, But if you really
think when I'm an anthologist, do you think about the
people who need surgery that generally, like, you know, for
the most part, in the fifties, sixties, seventies, sometimes eighties,
(01:07):
like barely anybody's asking me that so very rarely, which
I kind of like, I don't want to be known
as um. They didn't know I played trip Dodgeball National Television.
That would be okay to me. Yeah, you don't know
this yet because the world is so weird right now
that you're not going to like concerts or events. But
(01:27):
soon enough you will be are you that guy from
the Bachelorette? Or you'll get did we go to high
school together? I've gotten that a couple of times. You know,
I live in New York City. You know there's still
after dining at times, and sometimes I'll be riding, um
my bike and people will stop me. I'm super impressed
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by because I'm wearing a mask and it's really cold
now I'm wearing a hat, so I've gotta do they
have ego eyes, they will spot you. I guess it's
the weirdest thing because it is weird. I always tell
them it's weirder for me. Like when if I'm going
for a run outside, I'm like someone stopped. I'm like,
this is so weird for me, Like what do you
want to know? It's like it's just normal, you know,
(02:13):
It's like it's such a buddy. Let's catch everybody up.
So Dr Joe Park started on Claire's season, right, you
were one of the men that was originally there for Claire.
So tell everybody why, Like you're a hot doctor, which
doctors now we're always hot, but now doctors are like
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way hot. So why did you want to go on
the Bachelorette? Like it is a little bit like why
is this guy need to go? That's fair? Um, yeah,
so you know, so it was. I got asked in
the toward the end of spring and the pandemic in
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New York City, you know, it hit here first. Obviously
it was kind of slowing down and at that time,
I was, you know, going to work, you know, and
it was like a war zone. Everyone was just dinning
the pte and keeping their distance and it was just
a very scary time. And you know, unfortunately it's a
lot of people. I'm not doing well, and I would
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come home, you know, to my shoe box on an apartment,
you know, I live in New York City and now
would be the routine, and I wouldn't see friends, obviously,
I wouldn't see my family. And so when I got
this this message, Um, I you know, I've never seen
the show, and I just said that you like what
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I have to do. I was open minded about it,
and they said, you have to sit where you're sitting
and do a couple of zoom interviews and and I
asked to do enough to wear pants and like, no,
don't wear pants, It's fine. And uh, I did like
four or five ho interviews and one thing left another
and I was out in uh in the desert, in
the palm desert with a bunch of strangers and again
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at that in quarantine living like That's what people listening
may not realize, is you know, from we have a
lot of friends that are either on the show or
work on the show, and because of the way they
did it, they were extremely safe with a lot of
protocols and put everybody into a bubble and so you
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guys basically got to sort of live a normal life.
It was such like such a dark contrast. I can't
tell you how it was going from the hospital, where
I was wearing like not just through masks, but I
was wearing the face shield and the gloves all the time,
and the gown, and to just being in a place
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where I could like like hug somebody. Um. And I
know it's gotten a little bit normal now, but like
at the time, it was like really really really the
heightened again of such a scary thing, especially in New York.
In New York was insane during that time. So that
leads me to my question is how did you even
get the time off? Like you went to you know,
your boss and you're like, hey, I know it's the
(05:05):
middle of a pandemic, but I just got offered to
go on The Bachelor, Like how did that come there?
So it was a few It was like it was
a couple of months before they said, hey, the Game
of the green Light. You know, it was a bunch
of zoom interviews. And at the height of the pandemic,
which is early April UM, the cases were about six
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thousand a day, and that was when testing wasn't really available,
so it was actually much much worse than that UM.
But by the time I left, which was you know,
early early summer UM, the case has actually gone down.
I'm not sure if I want the day, but they
left it the case were down at about three hundreds.
So it was just it was actually a perfect time
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where there weren't an elected surgeries going on because people
obviously were very afraid to be in a hospital, and
they were still taking care of a lot of COVID patients.
But it wasn't that that peak had gone way way
way down. And I told my my boss that I
needed between four and six weeks off, which is all
my week. And he asked. He's a very old and
(06:08):
very nice, old Indian man, and he was like, why
do you need this? And I was like, you know,
there's a show come back threat. He's like, what is
this show? And I tried to sound like, so there's
thirty guys and there's one girl, and you do a
lot of weird challenges, um, you know, like you know,
like dodgeball, you rustle each other and all that will
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help this girl find find us. And after eight weeks,
the whole prison. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous saying it now.
But to him, we never heard of He was like
it was like, he's like what I told him, It's
gonna be on television and it's a crazy opportunity. And
eventually like yeah, sure, like you know, it's actually perfect time,
so go for it. I hope he watched did that
guy watch? Definitely not? That's okay. I hope he doesn't. Well,
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there's so much just there's so much just sort of breakdown.
So first before to get into kind of what we're
doing and how you're taking over the show today. Can
you just give us a little bit. I'm like, where
are you from, Where do you go to college, where
do you get Where did you go to medical school?
And then why did you choose anatsiology, which for people listening,
that is a quite challenging area of medicine. Yeah, it is. Um.
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So I'm from New York. I grew up born and
raised in in Long Island. UM in New York. I
went to high college at Georgetown University in d C.
And Um, I just insulting there um for two years
or not there but DC for two years, and then
I thought medicine might be my route. Um, I didn't
really love consulting, and I did some clinical research at
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Sloane Kettering, which is a cancer center in New York.
And from there I really loved working with patients mentally,
super simulating, super like you're always learning in medicine. And
then pot of med school, went to med school in
Stony Brook out in Long Island. Also from there, UM
incide to pursue as physiology, which, as you said, it's
a very very challenging feel I mean literally, you are
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like keeping this person alive while they're going through their
their surgeries. So there's definitely and you don't get a
lot of the glory because you're not the heart surgeon
that came in or the doctor grouped a brain surgeon
that Kate comes in for those that are listening Dr
sanjayes on Ci and and he still goes and performs
brain surgery. But then is so important. But you're like
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the man behind the scenes that no one ever sees. Yeah,
there's um. I like to consider. I like to think
of enthusiologists as the basis of a group and a
friend's uncle random but he told me once, Uh, it's
meant to be felt but not heard. Um. But obviously
you need that person there and it really creates that
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that sets the tone for the band, the music that's playing.
And so I feel that way about anesthesia and I'm
happy to do that. And it is really really interesting
to deal with physiology and all these medications were pushing
in to see like all these monitors and again just
to control from the physiology. I think, is such a
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do you because of your expertise as an antistusiologists, does
that give you um insight into the vaccine in a
different way than maybe even you know, just a general
physician would, where you're able to sort of explain it's
safety and efficacy and why it's important. Um. Does the
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antistusiology back front that you have give you that knowledge
more so than other doctors? More so than other some
other doctors, Yes, I mean there are immunologists, UM allergists
who probably have a better understanding. But that said, UM
dealing with a lot of drugs and formal kinetics, form
dynamics and from a college in general, UM, it is
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important for us to know how the body processes medications. UM,
different things that introduced for a body so, and also
the reaction that happened thereafter, clampatary reactions that can happen afterwards,
that can happen during surgery or two medications that we give.
SO in that respect, yeah, I mean, we definitely have
a better understanding of human physiology and how medications, especially
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strange ones. So like So's people are getting the first
dose of the vaccine, and and the common side effect
is like arm pain. So is the arm pain because
it's where a shot went in? Or is the arm
pain because it's starting to like affect the body in
that area, Like why the arm pain? Sure, that's a
(10:41):
good question. So most people when they get this vaccine,
similar to the flu shot, it's an intramuscular injection, and
every intramuscular injection is gonna have arm pain just because
you're introducing um, a fluid, a substance into the muscle.
So there's gonna be a flampwary reaction and it's gonna
feel like someone punched you really harder the next day.
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And that's not really the systemic and the reaction that
you're getting in from the va vacccene, which also happened,
which can happen, which puts a lot of people. Um,
that's just a local reaction and that's completely normal and uh,
completely yeah, and it goes away very quickly. And then
after the second dose, people are having some symptoms like
a sighte fever or chills or more flu like symptoms.
(11:25):
Can you explain why that is and let people know
like that's not COVID, You don't have COVID. You know,
I'll let you explain, But it's your immune system. So
can you explain why that happens and why people don't
need to panic? Absolutely? So, Um, first of all, Yeah,
so even after the first dose, it's possible that the
day after, or or two days after, up to two
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days after, you can have some reaction. And these reactions
include um, generalized fatigue, generalized muscle pain. Some people will
have fever, some people will have some chills, um, some
people have some GI symptoms, it's some knowledges and diarrhea.
All these are very normal and generally last between one
and two days, and by the third day you're pretty
much action. Now, why that happens is because your body
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is ramping up its immune system. Your body is practicing
for and creating the antibodies that will be necessary to
fight off the coronavirus. If you ever actually encount of
the real thing, um, and so it means it's working,
you know. It means that our body is revving it
up for a real infection in the future. And again
to your point, in no way can you get coronavirus
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from the vaccine. It is merely a very small component
of the vaccine that creates that's kind of like a
trigger for for our immune system to respond. But in
no way can you get coronavirus. And I I want to
be very clear with that now, how many years into
medical school was it before you were able to say
diarrhea without laughing? Machel in diarrhea, all of it. It's
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still very funny to me. You delivered that like it
was like no problem. Yeah, you know, I think I
enjoyed the topic of diarrhea and it's grown to be comfortable.
But I know that you can really shut a room
down if you say diarrhea. Here's a medical school is
(13:22):
such a journey, perhaps more than the best and the
faces to say, you don't want to know where this
finger has been. All right, it's it's stories, but I'm
telling you it's it's a right, it's a trick. Did
you ever have to utter the word diarrhea when you
filmed The Bachelorette? Um? I don't recall a time I
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had to um, but I was ready to bust it
out if I had to question. How many medical questions
were those dudes asking you like was it constant or yeah?
You know a lot of them asking about like showing
me rashes and I'm like, WHOA, I do not want
to see that. I'm joking. I'm joking. Everyone was Actually,
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I know, we know you're you're all pretty safe in
there because you're you're COVID tested and tested testing exactly.
I was gonna say testing anyways. So, so Amy, should
we go into kind of the premise of the episode
and what we have planned. We've been sort of pulling
our audience and as much as people want to have relationships,
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love date sets, all the normal things that we always
talk about on the show, they also have a lot
of medical questions right now. People want to know it all.
So you're the perfect person to talk about love, relationships
and doctor stuff. So we will let some people into
our podcast with their questions. But my last question before
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we start that is who were your three besties that
you made during your claritatious season of The Bachelorette. You
have to pick three, and we know because saw the
instagram that you went over to Bennett's house for dinner.
So is he one of your best ties? I know
he's gonna be her. He's gonna be her. If you
don't say him, think I'm gonna say um so the
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time on the show and after the show. Um, Brendan,
I've got really close to Brendon. He is turn like poppy. Actually,
I think it's the correct term. Turn like poppy. Um.
But but yeah, he is such a kind, thoughtful um
and actually super funny. He's got this this really subtle
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humor UM that I love and that a lot of
people love UM. And that's just a good human being overall.
And that was evident on the show, UM because such
a such a tense pressure field situation, and he kept
a real throughout, which also I appreciated. You know a
lot of people you know, who know there's a lot
of reason why people will want and beyond the Bachelor,
(15:57):
why be on TV? But he kept it one d
the whole time, and I respected him, like we would
have great chats, we would do this because always was
Mike's to do this thing and we tap my mics
like is this are you scared right now? Like ok
And I was just like, you know, it's not okay,
I'm real. This guy's like okay, good me too. I
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would have picked him like he was my number one,
like I to this day and like ta you missed
the boat on that one. You know he was my
he was and is my number one. But he lit
he limited himself so she didn't even have the chance.
And and I respect him for why he did it
and he kept a real number. Two is a spice surprise.
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But Kenny um, Kenny, okay, Kenny looks how he looks,
and he has the job that he has. But one
of the most also subtly funny is um most honest,
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genuine um and yeah, just like real people on the show.
And you could tell that from the show. He's like,
you know, at a certain points like what the hell
is going on here? And that's just how it was
all the time. And I really I love the reverence.
What boy bands he manages, but we can figure that
out very quickly. I would say he has a bunch
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of cover bands that he manages at A has a
bunch of cover bands, like one's a motown band. One
was like a like a boy band cover band. So um,
he does it always a model, you know, manager events
space manager is a man of many times cover band.
It's actually sort of a legit idea. He was getting
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fights with the other who was he brawling with? He
was having the I think everyone didn't like Yeah, no,
I don't think anyone like Noah, but especially Bennett. Well
you know what the mustache, the mustache. He was a
mustache man, formerly must he had a pretty must stache
phase in a post mustache pase, so he eras on
the bechelor gave us your number three, And I'm nervous
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for Bennett because I know it's not Bennett. Number three
is Bennett? Actually, I will say Bennett and I have
gotten much closer. I mean, he lives in New York.
Were the about the same age or one of your part,
And he's super intelligent, and he's really thoughtful, and he's
just got interesting perspectives. And when he's your friend, he's
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your friend, like a good friend. He's with you, you know,
the car wreck you can't look away from. Like I
find myself like on his Instagram watching the whole thing,
but going why am I watching this? Like like this
guy so cheesy, but yet like tell me more, you know,
like he's that guy. Bennett is the classic case of
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you either die a hero or you live yourself, or
you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
And he just, for some reason skewed that way towards
the end um because I don't remember the beginning that
Bennett was like, yo, it was all up for Bennett,
and for me, it's still all up for Bennett. You
just a little bit of that Harvard guy, and he
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kind of like became that so fast. He's sort of handsome.
He's sort of handsome in a like are you handsome?
Or am I going to vomit in my mouth kind
of a way. But I mean Superman the Clark. Can't
you like you're not into the big jaw and big muscle,
and he's handsome. He's like, by the book handsome, but
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he has sort of like this underlying cheese where you're like,
is that gonna herritate me dinner? You know, You're like,
are you gonna like I don't know. It's like a
Disney character where they're like always looking in the mirror
or something. I can't remember which one that is. But anyway,
this is your show. Only one more, last one honorary
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also okay, fourth best and that's it. Sorry, no, no,
we like it. We like it. We hope you're all
in paradise to get so. We do have a bunch
of people that are excited to talk to you. So fast. Yeah,
let's go ahead and take a break and when we
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come back, we'll get to some of our questions. Hey guys,
it's Dr Joe, I've taken over for Gavinet Brooks on
the Holm and Think podcast. Um, they'll be back. I'm sorry,
don't worry, but for right now, you're stuck with me.
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So let's bring on the questions. Okay. So first up
we have Crystal. Hello. Hi, Okay, So first question, UM,
we would love to know I know you recently got
vaccinated and UM, a lot of us are a little
nervous about the vaccines. So could you kind of tell
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us your experience about getting it and what we might
need to know about it? Um? Absolutely, Um. Crystal love
your style also, so UM, I just want to say
that in the just out front. Um, so sure. So
the vaccine, you know, initially, like a lot of people, UM,
when it first came out, I was a bit curious
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about it. I was. I was a bit apprehensive about it. UM.
I wasn't sure about it either, because it did come
out pretty quickly, and I think that's the kind of
concern everyone had. But the more I read about it,
and the more I learned about how the vaccine actually works, um,
how the study was conducted, and read about how safe
it was, I actually completely changed. I got really excited
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about it. And when the time came for me to
actually get the vaccine, I was super happy, uh and hopeful,
um that this tiny, really innocuous injection. It's really you know,
take about all half a second at this tiny injection
would potentially and likely save millions of lives and get
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us back two you know, eating in restaurants with friends,
to traveling um and just getting back to life um
as we knew it. Um. And again just go procedurally
to go through how how it works, because I know
a lot of people aren't in the phase where they
can get the vaccine yet, but they will be very soon. Um.
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You sign up, you show up at the appointed time
with your idea, and you get the vaccine, which literally
takes literally a half second, a little wipe a alcoal
and a little a very small needle, and you know,
and get the injection. And you stick around for fifteen
or twenty minutes after just a monitor to make sure
that there's no immediate reaction afterwards. And there have been some,
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but they are exceptionally rare thus far um, And so
you stay him on heard and then from there um
likely the day after, as we talked about earlier, you'll
have a little muster streness in the shoulder that you've
got the injection, and it's possible you'll have some fatigue.
It's possible you'll have some generalized body pain. UM. It's
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possible that you could have a little bit of fever,
a little bit of chills. UH, it's possibly could have
some GI symptoms, maybe a little diarrhea and UM. But
those symptoms generally will go away in two days. By
the third day you'll be back to normal, if not
sooner than that. With those symptoms, you know, if you
do have the fever, you have the chills, and even
if that arm pain is bothering you, it's completely okay
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to take tonal, it's completely okay to take add bill UM.
And again that reaction that you're having UM. I look
at it like when you're working out or practicing something
like an instrument, no pain, no gain, And when you
get that injection and you get that and you get
that that reaction where you can you don't feel great
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next day, that's your body just like work it out
and make it pumping out those antibodies so that you
are stronger UM afterwards. And you know, trust me from
the first hand account that day or our day and
a half of this comfort you have is much better
than actually having COVID. Okay, So, um, even if again
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people are not so thrilled about how they might feel
the day or two after again, it's it's nothing compared
to the risk of potentially getting the disease and potentially
spreading it to your loved ones, maybe even higher risk.
So so that brings me to our next person, because um,
it has a really good course for those playing the
at home drinking game. We just had another diarrhea, so um, okay,
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I'm gonna bring in Danny because Danny has something very
much related to that same same topic. So Danny, if
you can come in. Hi. So, Danny, Hi, I was
just wondering, once you are all vaccinated, would we still
need to be wearing masks and social distance? Um, just
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what are your thoughts on that. That's a really really
good question, and I'm glad you you asked that. Um.
So the answer is yes, and the reasons are one,
the vaccines we have the maderna and the fires of
vaccines are about effective as far as we know. That
means one in twenty people will still be able to
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potentially get moderate or severe COVID you might develop that disease.
And so because we don't know obviously who that one
and twenty is gonna be, you still should wear that
mask because again you don't want to potentially contract it
and you don't. And again the second reason is because
we're not sure that even if you are vaccinated and
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you are UM you do have the antibodies, if you
can't spread it. Because it's still possible if you have
the antibodies that while you're finding the infection, you might
still be able to spread to other people. That's something
I do. You know how long you think or medical
community thinks it will be before we start to realize
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if that is in fact true that you can still
spread it. I did a deep dive on the Google
the other night to try to figure that out, and
I saw that they've been testing it in rats and
some sort of other primate and they still don't have
definitive answers. So what are you hearing on that? How
long will that take? UM? So that's also good question
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that definitely deserves more investigation, And unfortunately that question will
only be answered with time, and that's gonna be unfortunately,
more people to get vaccinated, and the time frame with
the people who aren't evactually have to be much longer. Um,
so it's hard to say, to be honest when and
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join me on that deep dive on the Google, there's
a lot of episode like I did, Yeah, I did,
and I because I was searching like how long does
the actual vaccine like how you know how long is
it effective for in your body? Is a yearly? Is
it like a yearly flu shot or anything like that?
And it's the same thing. It's one of those things
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that time will tell you, don't you can't really put
an answer on it right now from what I googled.
That's another good point. So right now, there are a
couple of things that are percolating in the news also
percolating with the disease. There these variants that are coming
um kind of light. There's a there's a the UK variant,
which is the most prominent right now. Um. There's a
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variant which just means a mutated form of the virus,
a variant from South Africa. There's a there's a rescila
varian I believe, And so a lot of these little
variants that may also affect even that number that was
quoted in the studies, that's a little lower than that.
And again, you know, as far as what the nail
was saying, um, if you may need it, you know,
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a booster kind of like a flu shot every year
that is also to be determined. Like remember a year
chasing you're chasing your tail. Because imagine so some people
started getting the vaccine. Let's say whatever it was December.
It takes us eight months a year to get everybody vaccinated,
and then you're just starting over again. It's like, although
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I will say, I'm not a doctor, you can answer this,
but as we get it down in the communities, it'll
get easier. I assume I'm not a scientist. But no,
but that I think honestly is true. Right now we
have the like the production is the issue, and the
distribution too, and that's just growing paint. That's like when
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this campaign to vaccinate every American like and also not
it's not like people Amazon, It's nothing like Amazon. This
is a medical treatment. Still you still need a monitor people,
you still need to know about the medical history, um
and any reactions they've had to Like, it's a medical
thing that we're doing, and it's not like dropping up
a pack. So there's gonna be some growing pains and
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that's just normal. And we have to vaccinate the rest
of the world, and it is our responsibility to help
do that. Um, it's coming upon all of us because
this is one of those things where if you don't
get vaccinated, you could harm your mom, your dad, your grandma,
your grandpa, you know, your teacher, you know fellow student
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who might be me. No compromise, Like, this is a
responsibility that we all have. And this may be a
this might be a dumb question, but it's just actually
one that I have and I think about often. Where
do these variants come from? Like how do they just
like pop out of nowhere? You know, Like how is
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there the South African variant? And then also you know
one in the UK, Like where do they come from?
Like I don't understand how that works. Sure, that's some
that's a good question. Um that you do a little
deeper into virology, but not that much. Cheaper viruses replicate
very very rapidly and in very high numbers. And UM,
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a lot of times with these vocations, there's gonna be
mistakes that are made. And these mistakes are our mutations
are varyings. The vast vast majority. I can't give a number,
but a vast majority of variants are are go unnoticed
because they do nothing to affect the effect the virus itself.
So there's been lots and lots and lots of variants
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thus far, the ones that we know of now in
the UK um in South Africa, these variants made changes
that were significant. They made the spike protein a little different.
And thus the ones, unfortunately that survived, the ones that
become prominent, like the ones in the UK, are the
ones that tap the immune systems. Unfortunately, the more viry
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forms of these mutations are the ones that survived. Because
so I have I have a terrifying and on that.
I have a terrifying question on that, and then Danielle
and Crystal, we want to know if you guys have
any follow up questions too. But I had this like
dark thought today. So as they say the virus is
getting more virulent, virulent, virulent, as thank you. Okay, So
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I finally have calmed myself down a little bit, not
completely on my like door handle and my cell phone
and my like all that that like I'm not gonna
get it as likely from surface. So and we're kind
of like, if it's a respiratory it's passed from person person.
If it gets more virulent, am I gonna get it
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off my grocery car? Like could that change it? And
I know that's like might be a tough question. We
don't mean maybe don't know, but what are you what
do you think on that? Like? Now do I need
to be like stressed out about my wife's again? Sorry
diarrhea diarrhea, gosh, darning diarrhea. Um. So, that is a
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good question, and it to to put it to make
an answer short. The answer is, you need less virus
to infect when it becomes with these variants. And when
you say that it's coming more vari it's the same thing.
It's a variant of it that are more virulent. That again,
they just stick to our cells a little bit stronger,
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um to our receptors that introduce the cells into our
body a little stronger. And because of that, less is
needed to infect us, which which is what it means
to be more virulent. And because of that, um, we
still need to be fastidious with our social distancing, with
wearing masks and our hand hygiene for those reasons, because
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less is needed with these variances to effect well diarrhea.
That's great diarrhea. We have some non actually related question
before we do that, Danielle Crystal, we can jump in there.
Do you guys have any follow up questions based on
what Dr Joe I'm just gonna call you. Dr Joe
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just just explained there not a question, but just I
love the kind of metaphors you gave and I think,
unfortunately we may have to done this down just because
it is so, you know, based in medicine. Not everyone
understands that. So I would love to hear more of
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those metaphors if you have any, just on your Instagram
in the future. I've got a couple of videos that
made about the vaccine that has a couple of easy
metaphors with like I used Bob the building in there.
So that's just to give you an idea of how
how simple UM it is and then UM with a variant.
They also made a quick video also because I do
think a lot of people are curious and UM I appreciate.
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I appreciate that. So thanks, Danielle Crystal, thanks for your questions.
So we're gonna switch gears a little bit and have
a little bit of fun. So I'm gonna bring no
but like a little more lighthearted, not so much. We're
in a pandemic. Everyone scared, um from the mutating virus. Okay,
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let's breaking nia Nia. Where are you at? Hi? Hi? Yeah,
I have a question for you. This is a little juicy.
So I'm not sure if you tuned into the most
recent season of the Bachelor with Matt James. But if
you have seen, you know a few of the episodes.
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Are there any of the girls that caught your odd
you think are cute? We want to know we were
really Swiss gears. We went from like trying to save
the world to like just yeah, reality television. I mean, um,
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but that's a good question. I'll be honest with you.
I I I've never watched the show before, and um,
I think it's a long show. It's I can't believe
people watched this thing for two hours of a week.
I mean, listen, it's it's it's great programming and producers
are great and film the filming. Everyone works really hard.
(35:25):
But the answers, I don't really know them well enough.
Two parts one, Um, I don't know that the people
well enough to answer unfortunately know the people will not
only watched part of the first episode, really, and I
know who gets eliminated because I'm curious, like who lasts
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based on that first episode, so I just google like
who who's out? Um? And two I also know the
process kind of and how you know there's no script,
No one makes you say anything, but there is you know,
like you just see fasts of people you don't see
you know, you see It's it's like you have a
big painting. Are you just trying to light on the
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more interesting parts, more colorful parts? So, UM, there's more
to people than um what's shown on TV. Like for
me example, for example, you know, you know, people seem
to really like, um, some of the things they saw
from the show, but they cut up the part where
I punched been in the face. And if people have
seen that, they would have thought of a completely different
(36:29):
idea of what was Um. I'm still trying to make
it up to him. Um. Yeah, okay, so Dr Joe,
I don't I'm not a hundred percent sure you're gonna
like Nandy's question next because it is another bottom of
the barrel, But we're gonna go this is amazing And um,
I love it. I loved it and I love to
answer a question because it's it is fun and the
(36:51):
whole thing is doctors been on The Bachelor? Dr Joe,
Dr Travis dork Or Yeah. I met a friend A
friend of mine mentioned it was another emergency room doctor
on there is like Nick and Carroll was a nurse?
(37:11):
Was Andy Baldwin a doctor? He's like, I'm going way back, Well,
he was like a marine or a maybe something. I
have to google that, Okay, Mandy, Hi, thanks good. I'm
gonna stick with the name here, Dr Joe. I have
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a question for you, Dr Joe. I was looking at
your Thanksgiving post and when you're saying how grateful you
were for the show, and I was super heart warmed. Um.
So my question is, having had what seems to have
been such a great and positive experience on the Bachelor,
would you ever be interested in continuing your journey and
(37:55):
maybe going on the Bachelor in Paradise And do you
think that would be something you could even get time
away from work for? Um. First of all, I'm surprised
anybody read that thing. It's about a thousand pages, so, um,
thank you for that. Mandy did take time to write it,
so you're the one person who read it, so thank
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you for that. As far as b I p um
I I that's what car I p that's what the
kids are calling these days. Um. I would say again,
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I'm still out there trying to you know, to find
Mrs Park but if if there's nothing out there trying
m R Jo Basler, and that means yes, he wants
to go, but they haven't officially asked him yet, but
if they do, he'll say yes, it's like partly it's flat.
It's like partly flat because the Bachelor All Star like
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hard act like I might do it, maybe dangle it. Um,
But I don't know the answer to that question. If
we don't know, I don't know if it's happened, but
no one knows if it's happening. But I will say
it was an amazing experience. And while I was there,
it's it's kind of a deep dive. But while you're there,
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it's kind of like, um, I've had this conversation with people.
It's almost like interrogated, Yes, yes it is. You don't
have your your removed from all your contacts, don't have
your phone, no TV, no internet. Um, you're staying in
this one confined area. Um, you stay, they make you
(39:43):
stay up pretty late doing these fun things, but late
at night, and then when you're done with it, they're
trying to really bright light in your face and ask
you a bunch of questions like do you love her?
And I'm like yeah, I Like it's like, really, do
you think did you think Dale and Claire wouldn't make
it longer than they did? Man? That is so hard.
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I mean they really. I mean, listen, we've all been there.
You know, we we know what that honeymoon phases, like,
we know what it's like to like fall head over
heels for somebody. Um, I just you know, when you're
going to a commitment like engaging, engagement and getting married somebody,
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I think twelve days and however many hours I've spoken
that day, can you really hash out, Hey, what do
you do with your career? Where do you what do
you want to do when you move? And how many
kids do you want? And do you want to raise
your kids? And you know, like all these important questions,
these minor details that kind of fall but felt might
have fallen by the wayside and their short time they
had together, so you know, it's well. I appreciate how
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fair you're being with that question, Dr Joe, But let's
try it one more time. Were you shocked if they
broke up? I was not shocked that they broke up.
I mean I was hoping that they did. They wouldn't um,
and I was rooting for them as as as America was,
you know, all vascination was. But I'm not shocked that
they broke up. So I agree with you. Do you
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think Claire messed up? I don't know the right words. Uh,
sort of sabotaged herself by not being open to the
process and all the other men, because the odds were
not with her that this was going to work out
with the one guy she met three times? Did she
blow it? Should she have gone through the process even
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if she was in the und ultimately going to end
up with Dale. I felt like she screwed herself by
just being like I like that guy from the second
he got out of her limo. UM. I will say
this is easy to say now that that they've broken up.
What if she had gone through the process and ended
up with Blake, Let's say Blake Moyn's and they said
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together for three months. You know he lived in Canada, Like,
who knows what could have happened, So it's easy to
say now that's looking back and playing Monday morning quarterback saying, oh, yeah,
you know, it could have been somebody else. But I don't,
you know, with these things, you never like there like
another version, like my parents dated for six months before
they got engaged, and you know, not in nine months.
They were married from the time they met each other.
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And then there are couples who know each other for
eight years, they get married and then they divorced after
Like you know, my parents still have been married after
four years, right, And there are people who go out
for eight years and then they divorced after a year marriter,
So it's so hard to say, like what would have happened? Crap.
But I still think she kind of blew it because look,
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this is just my opinion. If you're gonna buy into
it doing it, you gotta buy into it and kind
of do it right. And she really like turned it
on its side. Although I loved Tasia, so I was
super stoked that we got Tasia. Yeah, here's my perspective
on it. So I agree. I feel like she should
have given a little bit of more time, and you know,
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I don't know how long that was, but it was
probably just a few weeks um. And but then I
look back on it, and I'm like, if she just
kept going with it, it would have been almost like
a loser situation because she would have been that girl
that would have disrespected the rest of the guys because
she only had her eye on one of them. And
so it was kind of like I thought she might
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have been in a losing situation either way. Does that
make sense? I think that's fair. Yeah, And not only that,
looking it the other way, I mean, for her she
felt so strongly for somebody, you know, for whatever reason,
it would be almost like, you know, it's it's almost
like she's like cheating on him by like kissing these
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guys continuously and holding their hands and go through that
process too. So I don't blame her for making that
decisions if she felt that what she did, Like, once
you feel it, can we control how we feel? You know?
We can't unfeel, you know, That's how we work. I mean,
I agree with you all, but still a smart person
knows it was not the odds were not with her.
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It was so chancey. And then she's sort of I
don't know. I mean, we could do a whole episode
on that. Well, we'll move on alright, so many other things.
We'll have to dive on Claire because I think she
screwed up, but that's all right. Now she's and then
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now she's all heartbroken and it sucks. Whereas like maybe
I don't know, one of those other dudes was really
her soul mate. We've all screwed up. She went to
the shiny object. That's what it is. Okay, let's talk
about this really fast. She went for the shiny object,
which I've been told I go for the shiny object,
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and sometimes you're not supposed to go for the shiny object.
So Joe, why do ladies go for the shiny object
instead of like, I don't know, the the metaphor the
night at that or like right, the solid piece of
metal if I'm going with the metaphor, Like, why are women,
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in your opinion as a man, so attracted to the
shiny object? The male model? Dale? You know whatever, um
I would say in fairness and Dale, he's not just
a tiny Dale was actually very well spoken, very intelligent.
You know, he's like he's like I've said this before,
(45:33):
and I said on the show multiple times interviews, like
when we're going that through that transition phase on a
first date or like in three dates, which is what
the Bachelor is. If I went on the same date,
the same amount of time with the girl and like
Dale and I had like three hours with there at
the same restaurant, you know, the same food, same drinks,
(45:54):
the same everything. The girl Big Dale like under times
and that's just a fact. And that okay with me,
Like he's he's a stud, like and that's like but
you know, you know, but that's why we're so dumb,
because yes, Joe, yes, because I think that's like you're
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you're only like thinking about the thing right in front
of your face. But if you're thinking about like a
happy life and like true love, like Dr Joe could
be your man. I don't know. I've got like just
probably trash behind me too, kidding. Were talked about a donation,
So yes, tell everybody, Tell everybody what you're doing with
(46:38):
your which if people see this on our social that's
not garbage. Behind Dr Joe, what are you doing? Yeah,
I'm just gonna co drive And um I just was
saying how um I posted on Instagram, I would love
if people donate the coats. They recorded themselves and then
just posted it this Sunday, you know, January. So I
(47:00):
just you know, it's getting really cold right now New
York and a lot of parts of the US, and
I figured I had some extra coats that I was
gonna donate, and I asked my friends, and they have
some extra coats there that they could donate. I figured
fascination is such a loving community that maybe they would
have coats too, So I just made a post saying,
if you have any coasts to donate, donate it, record
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yourself donating it, and on Sunday, January one, post a
story of be donating it, you know, show people like, yeah,
you're like, I don't need this anymore. I hope somebody
get used out of it and just tag me, And
I would love to just repost it and be like yo,
like we all did this together as a community, um,
and just help, like just to show other people, you know,
show ourselves and other people like which she brings us
(47:43):
right back to being at the dinner table with you
and Dale and God bless Dale. But ladies, stop with
the shiny objects or he's very shiny though he's very
I mean he like he's like very burned. My eyes
when I looked at him. Dart to Joe, Amy is
hyping you up to a new level. And I'm here
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because doctor doctors are the brad Pitt. I don't get
near you, but doctors are the new brad Pitt because
it's like, holy crap, Like if you're like, yeah, this
is my dude and he's a doctor, everybody's like what
so okay before but yes, but I need to know
(48:29):
what is happening with Dr Joe and his I know
it's hard dating in a pandemic. I don't really like
advocate for it. It's a little, but it's hard. Like
what are the ladies d M ing you? Like? What's happening?
Obviously they're m a lot of inappropriate things. Please save
that the inappropriate. I'm just kidding. No, it's actually very
(48:50):
nice and uh there's some thirsty ladies, but then there's
also some quality. There's some quality. Yeah, I honestly don't
really respond to DM. I I don't know. I'm like
I'm a millennial but just barely and I just quite understanding. Yeah,
(49:15):
I'm gonna set you up very sick, very six? Yes,
and what's your ideal ad? Rings like thirty to forty? Um? Yeah,
I think thirty to forty is great. You know, someone
more like mature. It was kind of like, you know,
knows himself. I think that's what everyone wants to some degree. Right,
So I need to think this through, but we'll make
it happen. Anybody you need to be in New York?
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Are you open to like long distance? Um? I think
you know relationships are so hard as as it is
to make something work really meaningful. One. I was just
looking for. Um, I think you know distance is important.
You know proximity is pretty pretty. Can't we take into
Connecticut or do they need to be like I think
(50:02):
we could think it to try state? No? Maybe is good?
All right? All right, um, Becky, let's go to Becky.
Hi Joe, how are you, Becky? How are you good? Okay?
So you are obviously very busy. Um, so I wanted
to know, especially right now it's so stressful. What do
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you one doing for fun outside of work? In two?
How are you staying healthy during these times? Um? Yeah,
good question. Um, definitely have had to improvise with the fun.
I'll see what I'm not doing. I'm not eating in
big groups and restaurants. I'm not traveling to you know,
(50:45):
like Central America. I'm not going to big concerts with
groups of friends. All things that I would love to do,
you know during normal times. Um. But you know, really
for fun, I just I like to I do like running,
um when you like working out. I do like reading. Um,
I do like watching like nature documentaries and um my
(51:08):
Active Teacher is actually great when I just watch, it's
really good, really fun. Um. I like, you know, I'm
just going to the internet, going on a weird like
Wikipedia YouTube kind of loops. Um. And yeah, and and
most of all, I just it's such a gift now,
you know. So we do have some outdoor dining. It's
really cool. But there's outdoor dining and maybe once a week,
(51:30):
you know, with appropriate distance. And again in the outdoor setting,
it's still worth meeting um somebody um and just talking
with somebody um. And this thing that we took for granted,
you know, seeing a loved one, a friend, just sharing
a meal and experience with this person and spending time
with them. Ah, it's such a it's such an event.
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It's such a beautiful thing now And I think that's
something we can all take away that all the things
that we had that were surrounded by, like for twenty
four hours a day, you know, working from home and
just being at home all the time, like none of
it made us happy. Like it's all. It's all yes,
you know, like that watch that ring, you know, the
TV maybe we needed, but you know, all the things
(52:13):
just were meant nothing. I mean nothing. And the most
important things, obviously are you know, sharing time, shared experiences
with your loved ones um and obviously UM, doing the
things that makes us happy UM and traveling and just
experiencing things, experiences and people, things that I think obviously
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more important. And I try to do that as much
as I can. So you're obviously not watching Bachelor, But
are you watching any other TV shows? Like what do
you do at night to relax? Is that the bubble bath?
Is it? Oh? Jeez? Nothing, I don't want. I barely
(52:54):
watched TV. I mean that, like the like I watched
sports sometimes, um, because it's dramatic and we all need
some drama in our lives. And that's what I realized,
Like humans are Like I don't watch The Bachelor or
the Bachelor, Um, even though they are great shows Monday
Monday MS, I don't care, but um and an institution.
(53:19):
Some would consider the Bachelor Bach institution of television. But um,
that is like a relationship drama, and that's something I
really just don't care for in the real sense. So
I don't know. I wouldn't go and seek it out
on TV. But what I realized is as a man,
a lot of men like drama too. They just get
a de form. It's like drama is a drug that
we all crave, and I just before my life is
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last minute shots and game any touchdowns and some and
and maybe some people love it in the form of
relationship like where she won't she? That's somehow men think
Intel Ladies like, yeah, listen up, that's how many things intel.
They like it too, but they just get it from sports. Yeah,
do you go or play tennis or pickle ball, which
(54:04):
is the fastest growing sport in America. I just learned,
what's what do you got going? I pickle I gotta
get onto the pickle ball ground. Huh jeez. I heard
pickle ball is very hot, hot hot. I ordered the cattles.
I haven't used them, But what what's your sports, Joe,
or is it just I love surfing. I've got a
(54:27):
couple of I got two boards right here, like looking
at me in the face right here. Unfortunately they stayed
pretty dry. Um. I have surved in the winter, but
it's a little hard. Um, it's not the most enjoyable.
And normally I will travel, but obviously that's not of thing,
so surfing would be the other thing. Um. I do
like to run, um and just again just go to gym. Um.
I do like basketball when it's available. I don't play
(54:47):
as much, um, but yeah, I just I think movement
in any form it gets those en doorphins out and
I really think it is a key. One of the
keys to promote people from to happiness is just we
cannot set up Dr Joe like either. I am going
to find you your girl. I'm really good at it,
(55:08):
really good. So we have one more question um that
I think a lot of people really relate to you
right now. UM. So I'm gonna bring in Riley um
to ask her question. Hi, Dr Joe. Um. So, I
(55:33):
don't know what's been going on, but I am at
a peak high anxiety right now and I just want
to know if you had any tips to help me
out anything I can do? Oh man, Um, first, sorry
to hear that, Riley. Um, but I think I think
we all have anxiety right now. Mine right mine is
(55:53):
I don't know what's going on besides the world. I
don't you know anything I can control. Um. I Again,
I don't think there's a good answer to that. To
be honest, Um, I think it's really natural and normal
at this time in life to have some anxiety. I
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think it'd be weird not to have anxiety. So I think, well,
I'm just recognizing that, you know, it's okay. You know,
like you how feeling how you're feeling is is justified
and honor that feeling. You know, it's it's normal. Like
as a as a female, Like what I like to
do to do that or like to kind of settle
(56:35):
my anxiety is a hot bath or working out or
Um I've recently got into see the d um like
what do guys do? Like what what are guys? You know?
Like what do guys do to kind of relieve some
of their anxiety? Yeah, that's a good question. So I think, um,
(56:57):
like a lot of guys and again in different forms
will just like to really exert themselves, like like you
gotta like get out that pent up And I think
anxiety is this part of it is. And again this
is just you know, one man's opinion, but it's this nervousness,
this energy that you have pent up that's towards something
that you can't control, like depending on like the situation
(57:18):
that's going around us. And and so it's just this
nervous part of this is the nervous energy, as almost
some anxiety is. And so two one you expanded energy. Men.
I think I love to lift weights and to run
and to you know, play sports because this thing, again,
it's all of this just using that some of that
energy that we all have that kind of when we
sit still could just have these outlets where you know,
(57:41):
we create tension. If we don't create tension by moving,
by by like running faster or or straining our muscles,
then that tension kind of goes somewhere and maybe that
goes to our psyche. And so I think movement is
a big thing. And and again doubly good is that
movement not only releases that pent up energy that I
think could feed some anxiety, you also also obviously release
(58:02):
releases endorphins, so it's like it's doubly good. So, um,
I do think it. It approaches that anxiety in multiple ways.
And I just think for men, movement and physical activity
in whatever form that may be, is a good Why
you men? And I'm being general because I think there's exceptions,
(58:25):
but as a rule, men do not enjoy a bath,
not a guy move That's a really good question. And
uh and and and obviously Danny said that's one of
the things, like one of our go choose. And I
was just thinking, like I don't know the answer to
that question, because it seems great, you know, just to
(58:47):
soak in something and smell good so you run hot
and it's too sweaty in there or something. I don't
think that's it. Let me give it a second to think.
Why don't Could it just be the connotation like what
if they made like they could be a market here
like bubble bath it feels too soft, feels girly. There
(59:13):
could be something to that again just by association, like
why do you why do you women like um not women?
Why why is pink associated with women? Like don't I
don't know, It's like it's just society kind of decided
at some point movies, it was Julia Roberts in the
bubble bath, not Richard Richard gear. Did she pull him
in at some point though? Wasn't he kind of in there? Yeah,
(59:35):
kind of like she's going to make all that money
and she's like cut her headphones on and she's like
classic movie. But yeah, I don't know this bubble. I'm
gonna I'm gonna do a deep dive int the bubble baths.
And because I'm curious about that too, because it does
sound great. It does sound very relaxing the muscles and
(59:57):
kind of chill a bath in that New York apartment. Um,
I do, but again as a man, it's gone unused. Unfortunately,
we need to send Dr Joe a little thank you
basket for hosting how many things that has some bath bombs,
some candles, like a whole little thing. You're pretty much
(01:00:17):
sending me a big paperweight then, because they will never
do Riley, I'm not sure if that answered your question,
but but hanging there, and I do hope that's you know,
as society gets back to normal, that I hope and
I think that anxiety, Um, we'll get better. And again
(01:00:39):
you're not alone. We're all feeling it and uh yeah,
good luck and you're gonna it's gonna be okay, I promised.
Thank you all hanging there. I think Dr Joe needs
his and I think you're doing great already seriously, like
Dr So yeah, Doctor, I can't think of like the
(01:01:03):
if I say Dr Doug Ross, it's too it's too
archaic of a reference for our young ladies listening, because
that's George Clooney from e R. But like you're like
the TV doctor, like you're pretty smooth. Would you ever
like be the Doctor Gupta or the Doctor Oz or
the I think you're doing it now? No, I don't
(01:01:27):
think so not not in there for him um and
not because they don't well, I think those three are different,
um in what they their their mission is as a
doctor on TV Dr Gupta, I have a lot of
respect for um just semate great information, very fact based information,
and I'll leave it that um. But I really like this.
(01:01:51):
I like talking to individuals. I like seeing patients. I
like talking to them, and uh, I don't think I
would ever want to not do that because it is
such a sacred bond that you form and it's such
a so weird. It's just it's interesting to me and
play on the surgeries or are you ever in the
(01:02:11):
e er where suddenly they're like, I don't know, some
dramas happening and you have to like put somebody under
a real fast dat like that. Yeah, there's definitely some
of that, especially during COVID there's a lot of that.
You know, we we were putting in the breathing tubes,
which I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, we did all
(01:02:32):
these in debasions the majority of divisions, and so it
was it was pretty it's pretty hairy, um and it
was pretty scary. And yeah, there's definitely times where there's
scheduled surgeries, for sure, but there's definitely times where even
the scheduled surgeries, a lot of weird things happen. And
(01:02:53):
and then my set my hospital work as a trauma centers,
there's always somebody rolling in, who if my car felt?
Our story is so, yeah, you're speaking a little bit
of crazy here and there are either are either mom
or Dad park a doctor? No, No, you're just you
(01:03:13):
have older brothers are radiologists. Oh no, okay, so that's
interesting to your older brother is also a doctor. Yeah,
he's a really elogist. Yeah, in New York. Also in
New York. Also, Yeah, he works out on the Alloland.
Do I have to find him a wife or does
he have a wife? Yeah? I know he's good. He
(01:03:34):
asked one. He's fine. Yeah, So we'll focus on you guys.
Thanks so much for having me. There's a lot of fun,
and thanks to everyone who called in and asked the question. Um,
they're a really good questions. That's super informative, and uh,
I hope everyone learned something. Um, you know, we're all
going through a really tough time right now. Um, it's
(01:03:56):
been hard. There isn't a single person that hasn't been
affected by the pandemic personally, economically, you know, like psychologically, socially,
and so in every way we could possibly think of.
But this vaccine does offer hope, and it is going
to save millions of lives. And the sooner we can
(01:04:19):
all get it, you know, part of that's not a
lot of that's not not control. But the sooner we
can all get it, the sooner we'll all go back
to life as we knew it before. But that path there,
you know, we see that light at the end of
the tunnel. But the way they're still you know, right now,
we're in very dark times that that that tunnel is
still very dark and scary before we reached that light.
(01:04:42):
So it's important to keep social distancing, keep wearing the mask,
keep washing the hands, and and stay strong. And we're
all gonna get through this together. We just gotta stay
strong for the time being and and yeah, and then
we'll appreciate it even more once once it's over, and
it will end
We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This
is how men thick and I heard radio podcast, so yes,
this is how men think, even though you hear the
voice of the ladies right now. This is Amy and
Daniels here too, and we have all the ladies here today,
but we are turning the show over today to Dr
(00:25):
Joe Park. Now we call you Joe because I'm the bachelor.
You were Joe, but your zoom, says Joseph, So what
do you go by at the hospital? At the hospital,
I go by Dr Park, So none of the above.
But you called whatever you want, Joe, Dr Joe. What
did Tisha call you? What did call you? She called
(00:47):
me Joe. You know, we're there. We got there. It
was fine. So how many of your patients now are like, uh, Houstasia.
You know people ask you that, But if you really
think when I'm an anthologist, do you think about the
people who need surgery that generally, like, you know, for
the most part, in the fifties, sixties, seventies, sometimes eighties,
(01:07):
like barely anybody's asking me that so very rarely, which
I kind of like, I don't want to be known
as um. They didn't know I played trip Dodgeball National Television.
That would be okay to me. Yeah, you don't know
this yet because the world is so weird right now
that you're not going to like concerts or events. But
(01:27):
soon enough you will be are you that guy from
the Bachelorette? Or you'll get did we go to high
school together? I've gotten that a couple of times. You know,
I live in New York City. You know there's still
after dining at times, and sometimes I'll be riding, um
my bike and people will stop me. I'm super impressed
(01:49):
by because I'm wearing a mask and it's really cold
now I'm wearing a hat, so I've gotta do they
have ego eyes, they will spot you. I guess it's
the weirdest thing because it is weird. I always tell
them it's weirder for me. Like when if I'm going
for a run outside, I'm like someone stopped. I'm like,
this is so weird for me, Like what do you
want to know? It's like it's just normal, you know,
(02:13):
It's like it's such a buddy. Let's catch everybody up.
So Dr Joe Park started on Claire's season, right, you
were one of the men that was originally there for Claire.
So tell everybody why, Like you're a hot doctor, which
doctors now we're always hot, but now doctors are like
(02:33):
way hot. So why did you want to go on
the Bachelorette? Like it is a little bit like why
is this guy need to go? That's fair? Um, yeah,
so you know, so it was. I got asked in
the toward the end of spring and the pandemic in
(02:54):
New York City, you know, it hit here first. Obviously
it was kind of slowing down and at that time,
I was, you know, going to work, you know, and
it was like a war zone. Everyone was just dinning
the pte and keeping their distance and it was just
a very scary time. And you know, unfortunately it's a
lot of people. I'm not doing well, and I would
(03:16):
come home, you know, to my shoe box on an apartment,
you know, I live in New York City and now
would be the routine, and I wouldn't see friends, obviously,
I wouldn't see my family. And so when I got
this this message, Um, I you know, I've never seen
the show, and I just said that you like what
(03:37):
I have to do. I was open minded about it,
and they said, you have to sit where you're sitting
and do a couple of zoom interviews and and I
asked to do enough to wear pants and like, no,
don't wear pants, It's fine. And uh, I did like
four or five ho interviews and one thing left another
and I was out in uh in the desert, in
the palm desert with a bunch of strangers and again
(04:00):
at that in quarantine living like That's what people listening
may not realize, is you know, from we have a
lot of friends that are either on the show or
work on the show, and because of the way they
did it, they were extremely safe with a lot of
protocols and put everybody into a bubble and so you
(04:22):
guys basically got to sort of live a normal life.
It was such like such a dark contrast. I can't
tell you how it was going from the hospital, where
I was wearing like not just through masks, but I
was wearing the face shield and the gloves all the time,
and the gown, and to just being in a place
(04:44):
where I could like like hug somebody. Um. And I
know it's gotten a little bit normal now, but like
at the time, it was like really really really the
heightened again of such a scary thing, especially in New York.
In New York was insane during that time. So that
leads me to my question is how did you even
get the time off? Like you went to you know,
your boss and you're like, hey, I know it's the
(05:05):
middle of a pandemic, but I just got offered to
go on The Bachelor, Like how did that come there?
So it was a few It was like it was
a couple of months before they said, hey, the Game
of the green Light. You know, it was a bunch
of zoom interviews. And at the height of the pandemic,
which is early April UM, the cases were about six
(05:26):
thousand a day, and that was when testing wasn't really available,
so it was actually much much worse than that UM.
But by the time I left, which was you know,
early early summer UM, the case has actually gone down.
I'm not sure if I want the day, but they
left it the case were down at about three hundreds.
So it was just it was actually a perfect time
(05:47):
where there weren't an elected surgeries going on because people
obviously were very afraid to be in a hospital, and
they were still taking care of a lot of COVID patients.
But it wasn't that that peak had gone way way
way down. And I told my my boss that I
needed between four and six weeks off, which is all
my week. And he asked. He's a very old and
(06:08):
very nice, old Indian man, and he was like, why
do you need this? And I was like, you know,
there's a show come back threat. He's like, what is
this show? And I tried to sound like, so there's
thirty guys and there's one girl, and you do a
lot of weird challenges, um, you know, like you know,
like dodgeball, you rustle each other and all that will
(06:30):
help this girl find find us. And after eight weeks,
the whole prison. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous saying it now.
But to him, we never heard of He was like
it was like, he's like what I told him, It's
gonna be on television and it's a crazy opportunity. And
eventually like yeah, sure, like you know, it's actually perfect time,
so go for it. I hope he watched did that
guy watch? Definitely not? That's okay. I hope he doesn't. Well,
(06:56):
there's so much just there's so much just sort of breakdown.
So first before to get into kind of what we're
doing and how you're taking over the show today. Can
you just give us a little bit. I'm like, where
are you from, Where do you go to college, where
do you get Where did you go to medical school?
And then why did you choose anatsiology, which for people listening,
that is a quite challenging area of medicine. Yeah, it is. Um.
(07:19):
So I'm from New York. I grew up born and
raised in in Long Island. UM in New York. I
went to high college at Georgetown University in d C.
And Um, I just insulting there um for two years
or not there but DC for two years, and then
I thought medicine might be my route. Um, I didn't
really love consulting, and I did some clinical research at
(07:44):
Sloane Kettering, which is a cancer center in New York.
And from there I really loved working with patients mentally,
super simulating, super like you're always learning in medicine. And
then pot of med school, went to med school in
Stony Brook out in Long Island. Also from there, UM
incide to pursue as physiology, which, as you said, it's
a very very challenging feel I mean literally, you are
(08:07):
like keeping this person alive while they're going through their
their surgeries. So there's definitely and you don't get a
lot of the glory because you're not the heart surgeon
that came in or the doctor grouped a brain surgeon
that Kate comes in for those that are listening Dr
sanjayes on Ci and and he still goes and performs
brain surgery. But then is so important. But you're like
(08:32):
the man behind the scenes that no one ever sees. Yeah,
there's um. I like to consider. I like to think
of enthusiologists as the basis of a group and a
friend's uncle random but he told me once, Uh, it's
meant to be felt but not heard. Um. But obviously
you need that person there and it really creates that
(08:53):
that sets the tone for the band, the music that's playing.
And so I feel that way about anesthesia and I'm
happy to do that. And it is really really interesting
to deal with physiology and all these medications were pushing
in to see like all these monitors and again just
to control from the physiology. I think, is such a
(09:13):
do you because of your expertise as an antistusiologists, does
that give you um insight into the vaccine in a
different way than maybe even you know, just a general
physician would, where you're able to sort of explain it's
safety and efficacy and why it's important. Um. Does the
(09:34):
antistusiology back front that you have give you that knowledge
more so than other doctors? More so than other some
other doctors, Yes, I mean there are immunologists, UM allergists
who probably have a better understanding. But that said, UM
dealing with a lot of drugs and formal kinetics, form
dynamics and from a college in general, UM, it is
(09:55):
important for us to know how the body processes medications. UM,
different things that introduced for a body so, and also
the reaction that happened thereafter, clampatary reactions that can happen afterwards,
that can happen during surgery or two medications that we give.
SO in that respect, yeah, I mean, we definitely have
a better understanding of human physiology and how medications, especially
(10:19):
strange ones. So like So's people are getting the first
dose of the vaccine, and and the common side effect
is like arm pain. So is the arm pain because
it's where a shot went in? Or is the arm
pain because it's starting to like affect the body in
that area, Like why the arm pain? Sure, that's a
(10:41):
good question. So most people when they get this vaccine,
similar to the flu shot, it's an intramuscular injection, and
every intramuscular injection is gonna have arm pain just because
you're introducing um, a fluid, a substance into the muscle.
So there's gonna be a flampwary reaction and it's gonna
feel like someone punched you really harder the next day.
(11:02):
And that's not really the systemic and the reaction that
you're getting in from the va vacccene, which also happened,
which can happen, which puts a lot of people. Um,
that's just a local reaction and that's completely normal and uh,
completely yeah, and it goes away very quickly. And then
after the second dose, people are having some symptoms like
a sighte fever or chills or more flu like symptoms.
(11:25):
Can you explain why that is and let people know
like that's not COVID, You don't have COVID. You know,
I'll let you explain, But it's your immune system. So
can you explain why that happens and why people don't
need to panic? Absolutely? So, Um, first of all, Yeah,
so even after the first dose, it's possible that the
day after, or or two days after, up to two
(11:46):
days after, you can have some reaction. And these reactions
include um, generalized fatigue, generalized muscle pain. Some people will
have fever, some people will have some chills, um, some
people have some GI symptoms, it's some knowledges and diarrhea.
All these are very normal and generally last between one
and two days, and by the third day you're pretty
much action. Now, why that happens is because your body
(12:11):
is ramping up its immune system. Your body is practicing
for and creating the antibodies that will be necessary to
fight off the coronavirus. If you ever actually encount of
the real thing, um, and so it means it's working,
you know. It means that our body is revving it
up for a real infection in the future. And again
to your point, in no way can you get coronavirus
(12:35):
from the vaccine. It is merely a very small component
of the vaccine that creates that's kind of like a
trigger for for our immune system to respond. But in
no way can you get coronavirus. And I I want to
be very clear with that now, how many years into
medical school was it before you were able to say
diarrhea without laughing? Machel in diarrhea, all of it. It's
(13:01):
still very funny to me. You delivered that like it
was like no problem. Yeah, you know, I think I
enjoyed the topic of diarrhea and it's grown to be comfortable.
But I know that you can really shut a room
down if you say diarrhea. Here's a medical school is
(13:22):
such a journey, perhaps more than the best and the
faces to say, you don't want to know where this
finger has been. All right, it's it's stories, but I'm
telling you it's it's a right, it's a trick. Did
you ever have to utter the word diarrhea when you
filmed The Bachelorette? Um? I don't recall a time I
(13:46):
had to um, but I was ready to bust it
out if I had to question. How many medical questions
were those dudes asking you like was it constant or yeah?
You know a lot of them asking about like showing
me rashes and I'm like, WHOA, I do not want
to see that. I'm joking. I'm joking. Everyone was Actually,
(14:07):
I know, we know you're you're all pretty safe in
there because you're you're COVID tested and tested testing exactly.
I was gonna say testing anyways. So, so Amy, should
we go into kind of the premise of the episode
and what we have planned. We've been sort of pulling
our audience and as much as people want to have relationships,
(14:27):
love date sets, all the normal things that we always
talk about on the show, they also have a lot
of medical questions right now. People want to know it all.
So you're the perfect person to talk about love, relationships
and doctor stuff. So we will let some people into
our podcast with their questions. But my last question before
(14:48):
we start that is who were your three besties that
you made during your claritatious season of The Bachelorette. You
have to pick three, and we know because saw the
instagram that you went over to Bennett's house for dinner.
So is he one of your best ties? I know
he's gonna be her. He's gonna be her. If you
don't say him, think I'm gonna say um so the
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time on the show and after the show. Um, Brendan,
I've got really close to Brendon. He is turn like poppy. Actually,
I think it's the correct term. Turn like poppy. Um.
But but yeah, he is such a kind, thoughtful um
and actually super funny. He's got this this really subtle
(15:36):
humor UM that I love and that a lot of
people love UM. And that's just a good human being overall.
And that was evident on the show, UM because such
a such a tense pressure field situation, and he kept
a real throughout, which also I appreciated. You know a
lot of people you know, who know there's a lot
of reason why people will want and beyond the Bachelor,
(15:57):
why be on TV? But he kept it one d
the whole time, and I respected him, like we would
have great chats, we would do this because always was
Mike's to do this thing and we tap my mics
like is this are you scared right now? Like ok
And I was just like, you know, it's not okay,
I'm real. This guy's like okay, good me too. I
(16:17):
would have picked him like he was my number one,
like I to this day and like ta you missed
the boat on that one. You know he was my
he was and is my number one. But he lit
he limited himself so she didn't even have the chance.
And and I respect him for why he did it
and he kept a real number. Two is a spice surprise.
(16:42):
But Kenny um, Kenny, okay, Kenny looks how he looks,
and he has the job that he has. But one
of the most also subtly funny is um most honest,
(17:04):
genuine um and yeah, just like real people on the show.
And you could tell that from the show. He's like,
you know, at a certain points like what the hell
is going on here? And that's just how it was
all the time. And I really I love the reverence.
What boy bands he manages, but we can figure that
out very quickly. I would say he has a bunch
(17:27):
of cover bands that he manages at A has a
bunch of cover bands, like one's a motown band. One
was like a like a boy band cover band. So um,
he does it always a model, you know, manager events
space manager is a man of many times cover band.
It's actually sort of a legit idea. He was getting
(17:47):
fights with the other who was he brawling with? He
was having the I think everyone didn't like Yeah, no,
I don't think anyone like Noah, but especially Bennett. Well
you know what the mustache, the mustache. He was a
mustache man, formerly must he had a pretty must stache
phase in a post mustache pase, so he eras on
the bechelor gave us your number three, And I'm nervous
(18:09):
for Bennett because I know it's not Bennett. Number three
is Bennett? Actually, I will say Bennett and I have
gotten much closer. I mean, he lives in New York.
Were the about the same age or one of your part,
And he's super intelligent, and he's really thoughtful, and he's
just got interesting perspectives. And when he's your friend, he's
(18:30):
your friend, like a good friend. He's with you, you know,
the car wreck you can't look away from. Like I
find myself like on his Instagram watching the whole thing,
but going why am I watching this? Like like this
guy so cheesy, but yet like tell me more, you know,
like he's that guy. Bennett is the classic case of
(18:54):
you either die a hero or you live yourself, or
you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
And he just, for some reason skewed that way towards
the end um because I don't remember the beginning that
Bennett was like, yo, it was all up for Bennett,
and for me, it's still all up for Bennett. You
just a little bit of that Harvard guy, and he
(19:15):
kind of like became that so fast. He's sort of handsome.
He's sort of handsome in a like are you handsome?
Or am I going to vomit in my mouth kind
of a way. But I mean Superman the Clark. Can't
you like you're not into the big jaw and big muscle,
and he's handsome. He's like, by the book handsome, but
(19:36):
he has sort of like this underlying cheese where you're like,
is that gonna herritate me dinner? You know, You're like,
are you gonna like I don't know. It's like a
Disney character where they're like always looking in the mirror
or something. I can't remember which one that is. But anyway,
this is your show. Only one more, last one honorary
(20:00):
also okay, fourth best and that's it. Sorry, no, no,
we like it. We like it. We hope you're all
in paradise to get so. We do have a bunch
of people that are excited to talk to you. So fast. Yeah,
let's go ahead and take a break and when we
(20:20):
come back, we'll get to some of our questions. Hey guys,
it's Dr Joe, I've taken over for Gavinet Brooks on
the Holm and Think podcast. Um, they'll be back. I'm sorry,
don't worry, but for right now, you're stuck with me.
(20:41):
So let's bring on the questions. Okay. So first up
we have Crystal. Hello. Hi, Okay, So first question, UM,
we would love to know I know you recently got
vaccinated and UM, a lot of us are a little
nervous about the vaccines. So could you kind of tell
(21:03):
us your experience about getting it and what we might
need to know about it? Um? Absolutely, Um. Crystal love
your style also, so UM, I just want to say
that in the just out front. Um, so sure. So
the vaccine, you know, initially, like a lot of people, UM,
when it first came out, I was a bit curious
(21:24):
about it. I was. I was a bit apprehensive about it. UM.
I wasn't sure about it either, because it did come
out pretty quickly, and I think that's the kind of
concern everyone had. But the more I read about it,
and the more I learned about how the vaccine actually works, um,
how the study was conducted, and read about how safe
it was, I actually completely changed. I got really excited
(21:45):
about it. And when the time came for me to
actually get the vaccine, I was super happy, uh and hopeful,
um that this tiny, really innocuous injection. It's really you know,
take about all half a second at this tiny injection
would potentially and likely save millions of lives and get
(22:09):
us back two you know, eating in restaurants with friends,
to traveling um and just getting back to life um
as we knew it. Um. And again just go procedurally
to go through how how it works, because I know
a lot of people aren't in the phase where they
can get the vaccine yet, but they will be very soon. Um.
(22:32):
You sign up, you show up at the appointed time
with your idea, and you get the vaccine, which literally
takes literally a half second, a little wipe a alcoal
and a little a very small needle, and you know,
and get the injection. And you stick around for fifteen
or twenty minutes after just a monitor to make sure
that there's no immediate reaction afterwards. And there have been some,
(22:55):
but they are exceptionally rare thus far um, And so
you stay him on heard and then from there um
likely the day after, as we talked about earlier, you'll
have a little muster streness in the shoulder that you've
got the injection, and it's possible you'll have some fatigue.
It's possible you'll have some generalized body pain. UM. It's
(23:16):
possible that you could have a little bit of fever,
a little bit of chills. UH, it's possibly could have
some GI symptoms, maybe a little diarrhea and UM. But
those symptoms generally will go away in two days. By
the third day you'll be back to normal, if not
sooner than that. With those symptoms, you know, if you
do have the fever, you have the chills, and even
if that arm pain is bothering you, it's completely okay
(23:37):
to take tonal, it's completely okay to take add bill UM.
And again that reaction that you're having UM. I look
at it like when you're working out or practicing something
like an instrument, no pain, no gain, And when you
get that injection and you get that and you get
that that reaction where you can you don't feel great
(23:57):
next day, that's your body just like work it out
and make it pumping out those antibodies so that you
are stronger UM afterwards. And you know, trust me from
the first hand account that day or our day and
a half of this comfort you have is much better
than actually having COVID. Okay, So, um, even if again
(24:21):
people are not so thrilled about how they might feel
the day or two after again, it's it's nothing compared
to the risk of potentially getting the disease and potentially
spreading it to your loved ones, maybe even higher risk.
So so that brings me to our next person, because um,
it has a really good course for those playing the
at home drinking game. We just had another diarrhea, so um, okay,
(24:46):
I'm gonna bring in Danny because Danny has something very
much related to that same same topic. So Danny, if
you can come in. Hi. So, Danny, Hi, I was
just wondering, once you are all vaccinated, would we still
need to be wearing masks and social distance? Um, just
(25:06):
what are your thoughts on that. That's a really really
good question, and I'm glad you you asked that. Um.
So the answer is yes, and the reasons are one,
the vaccines we have the maderna and the fires of
vaccines are about effective as far as we know. That
means one in twenty people will still be able to
(25:27):
potentially get moderate or severe COVID you might develop that disease.
And so because we don't know obviously who that one
and twenty is gonna be, you still should wear that
mask because again you don't want to potentially contract it
and you don't. And again the second reason is because
we're not sure that even if you are vaccinated and
(25:48):
you are UM you do have the antibodies, if you
can't spread it. Because it's still possible if you have
the antibodies that while you're finding the infection, you might
still be able to spread to other people. That's something
I do. You know how long you think or medical
community thinks it will be before we start to realize
(26:10):
if that is in fact true that you can still
spread it. I did a deep dive on the Google
the other night to try to figure that out, and
I saw that they've been testing it in rats and
some sort of other primate and they still don't have
definitive answers. So what are you hearing on that? How
long will that take? UM? So that's also good question
(26:33):
that definitely deserves more investigation, And unfortunately that question will
only be answered with time, and that's gonna be unfortunately,
more people to get vaccinated, and the time frame with
the people who aren't evactually have to be much longer. Um,
so it's hard to say, to be honest when and
(26:55):
join me on that deep dive on the Google, there's
a lot of episode like I did, Yeah, I did,
and I because I was searching like how long does
the actual vaccine like how you know how long is
it effective for in your body? Is a yearly? Is
it like a yearly flu shot or anything like that?
And it's the same thing. It's one of those things
(27:17):
that time will tell you, don't you can't really put
an answer on it right now from what I googled.
That's another good point. So right now, there are a
couple of things that are percolating in the news also
percolating with the disease. There these variants that are coming
um kind of light. There's a there's a the UK variant,
which is the most prominent right now. Um. There's a
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variant which just means a mutated form of the virus,
a variant from South Africa. There's a there's a rescila
varian I believe, And so a lot of these little
variants that may also affect even that number that was
quoted in the studies, that's a little lower than that.
And again, you know, as far as what the nail
was saying, um, if you may need it, you know,
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a booster kind of like a flu shot every year
that is also to be determined. Like remember a year
chasing you're chasing your tail. Because imagine so some people
started getting the vaccine. Let's say whatever it was December.
It takes us eight months a year to get everybody vaccinated,
and then you're just starting over again. It's like, although
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I will say, I'm not a doctor, you can answer this,
but as we get it down in the communities, it'll
get easier. I assume I'm not a scientist. But no,
but that I think honestly is true. Right now we
have the like the production is the issue, and the
distribution too, and that's just growing paint. That's like when
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this campaign to vaccinate every American like and also not
it's not like people Amazon, It's nothing like Amazon. This
is a medical treatment. Still you still need a monitor people,
you still need to know about the medical history, um
and any reactions they've had to Like, it's a medical
thing that we're doing, and it's not like dropping up
a pack. So there's gonna be some growing pains and
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that's just normal. And we have to vaccinate the rest
of the world, and it is our responsibility to help
do that. Um, it's coming upon all of us because
this is one of those things where if you don't
get vaccinated, you could harm your mom, your dad, your grandma,
your grandpa, you know, your teacher, you know fellow student
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who might be me. No compromise, Like, this is a
responsibility that we all have. And this may be a
this might be a dumb question, but it's just actually
one that I have and I think about often. Where
do these variants come from? Like how do they just
like pop out of nowhere? You know, Like how is
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there the South African variant? And then also you know
one in the UK, Like where do they come from?
Like I don't understand how that works. Sure, that's some
that's a good question. Um that you do a little
deeper into virology, but not that much. Cheaper viruses replicate
very very rapidly and in very high numbers. And UM,
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a lot of times with these vocations, there's gonna be
mistakes that are made. And these mistakes are our mutations
are varyings. The vast vast majority. I can't give a number,
but a vast majority of variants are are go unnoticed
because they do nothing to affect the effect the virus itself.
So there's been lots and lots and lots of variants
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thus far, the ones that we know of now in
the UK um in South Africa, these variants made changes
that were significant. They made the spike protein a little different.
And thus the ones, unfortunately that survived, the ones that
become prominent, like the ones in the UK, are the
ones that tap the immune systems. Unfortunately, the more viry
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forms of these mutations are the ones that survived. Because
so I have I have a terrifying and on that.
I have a terrifying question on that, and then Danielle
and Crystal, we want to know if you guys have
any follow up questions too. But I had this like
dark thought today. So as they say the virus is
getting more virulent, virulent, virulent, as thank you. Okay, So
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I finally have calmed myself down a little bit, not
completely on my like door handle and my cell phone
and my like all that that like I'm not gonna
get it as likely from surface. So and we're kind
of like, if it's a respiratory it's passed from person person.
If it gets more virulent, am I gonna get it
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off my grocery car? Like could that change it? And
I know that's like might be a tough question. We
don't mean maybe don't know, but what are you what
do you think on that? Like? Now do I need
to be like stressed out about my wife's again? Sorry
diarrhea diarrhea, gosh, darning diarrhea. Um. So, that is a
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good question, and it to to put it to make
an answer short. The answer is, you need less virus
to infect when it becomes with these variants. And when
you say that it's coming more vari it's the same thing.
It's a variant of it that are more virulent. That again,
they just stick to our cells a little bit stronger,
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um to our receptors that introduce the cells into our
body a little stronger. And because of that, less is
needed to infect us, which which is what it means
to be more virulent. And because of that, um, we
still need to be fastidious with our social distancing, with
wearing masks and our hand hygiene for those reasons, because
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less is needed with these variances to effect well diarrhea.
That's great diarrhea. We have some non actually related question
before we do that, Danielle Crystal, we can jump in there.
Do you guys have any follow up questions based on
what Dr Joe I'm just gonna call you. Dr Joe
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just just explained there not a question, but just I
love the kind of metaphors you gave and I think,
unfortunately we may have to done this down just because
it is so, you know, based in medicine. Not everyone
understands that. So I would love to hear more of
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those metaphors if you have any, just on your Instagram
in the future. I've got a couple of videos that
made about the vaccine that has a couple of easy
metaphors with like I used Bob the building in there.
So that's just to give you an idea of how
how simple UM it is and then UM with a variant.
They also made a quick video also because I do
think a lot of people are curious and UM I appreciate.
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I appreciate that. So thanks, Danielle Crystal, thanks for your questions.
So we're gonna switch gears a little bit and have
a little bit of fun. So I'm gonna bring no
but like a little more lighthearted, not so much. We're
in a pandemic. Everyone scared, um from the mutating virus. Okay,
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let's breaking nia Nia. Where are you at? Hi? Hi? Yeah,
I have a question for you. This is a little juicy.
So I'm not sure if you tuned into the most
recent season of the Bachelor with Matt James. But if
you have seen, you know a few of the episodes.
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Are there any of the girls that caught your odd
you think are cute? We want to know we were
really Swiss gears. We went from like trying to save
the world to like just yeah, reality television. I mean, um,
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but that's a good question. I'll be honest with you.
I I I've never watched the show before, and um,
I think it's a long show. It's I can't believe
people watched this thing for two hours of a week.
I mean, listen, it's it's it's great programming and producers
are great and film the filming. Everyone works really hard.
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But the answers, I don't really know them well enough.
Two parts one, Um, I don't know that the people
well enough to answer unfortunately know the people will not
only watched part of the first episode, really, and I
know who gets eliminated because I'm curious, like who lasts
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based on that first episode, so I just google like
who who's out? Um? And two I also know the
process kind of and how you know there's no script,
No one makes you say anything, but there is you know,
like you just see fasts of people you don't see
you know, you see It's it's like you have a
big painting. Are you just trying to light on the
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more interesting parts, more colorful parts? So, UM, there's more
to people than um what's shown on TV. Like for
me example, for example, you know, you know, people seem
to really like, um, some of the things they saw
from the show, but they cut up the part where
I punched been in the face. And if people have
seen that, they would have thought of a completely different
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idea of what was Um. I'm still trying to make
it up to him. Um. Yeah, okay, so Dr Joe,
I don't I'm not a hundred percent sure you're gonna
like Nandy's question next because it is another bottom of
the barrel, But we're gonna go this is amazing And um,
I love it. I loved it and I love to
answer a question because it's it is fun and the
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whole thing is doctors been on The Bachelor? Dr Joe,
Dr Travis dork Or Yeah. I met a friend A
friend of mine mentioned it was another emergency room doctor
on there is like Nick and Carroll was a nurse?
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Was Andy Baldwin a doctor? He's like, I'm going way back, Well,
he was like a marine or a maybe something. I
have to google that, Okay, Mandy, Hi, thanks good. I'm
gonna stick with the name here, Dr Joe. I have
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a question for you, Dr Joe. I was looking at
your Thanksgiving post and when you're saying how grateful you
were for the show, and I was super heart warmed. Um.
So my question is, having had what seems to have
been such a great and positive experience on the Bachelor,
would you ever be interested in continuing your journey and
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maybe going on the Bachelor in Paradise And do you
think that would be something you could even get time
away from work for? Um. First of all, I'm surprised
anybody read that thing. It's about a thousand pages, so, um,
thank you for that. Mandy did take time to write it,
so you're the one person who read it, so thank
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you for that. As far as b I p um
I I that's what car I p that's what the
kids are calling these days. Um. I would say again,
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I'm still out there trying to you know, to find
Mrs Park but if if there's nothing out there trying
m R Jo Basler, and that means yes, he wants
to go, but they haven't officially asked him yet, but
if they do, he'll say yes, it's like partly it's flat.
It's like partly flat because the Bachelor All Star like
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hard act like I might do it, maybe dangle it. Um,
But I don't know the answer to that question. If
we don't know, I don't know if it's happened, but
no one knows if it's happening. But I will say
it was an amazing experience. And while I was there,
it's it's kind of a deep dive. But while you're there,
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it's kind of like, um, I've had this conversation with people.
It's almost like interrogated, Yes, yes it is. You don't
have your your removed from all your contacts, don't have
your phone, no TV, no internet. Um, you're staying in
this one confined area. Um, you stay, they make you
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stay up pretty late doing these fun things, but late
at night, and then when you're done with it, they're
trying to really bright light in your face and ask
you a bunch of questions like do you love her?
And I'm like yeah, I Like it's like, really, do
you think did you think Dale and Claire wouldn't make
it longer than they did? Man? That is so hard.
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I mean they really. I mean, listen, we've all been there.
You know, we we know what that honeymoon phases, like,
we know what it's like to like fall head over
heels for somebody. Um, I just you know, when you're
going to a commitment like engaging, engagement and getting married somebody,
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I think twelve days and however many hours I've spoken
that day, can you really hash out, Hey, what do
you do with your career? Where do you what do
you want to do when you move? And how many
kids do you want? And do you want to raise
your kids? And you know, like all these important questions,
these minor details that kind of fall but felt might
have fallen by the wayside and their short time they
had together, so you know, it's well. I appreciate how
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fair you're being with that question, Dr Joe, But let's
try it one more time. Were you shocked if they
broke up? I was not shocked that they broke up.
I mean I was hoping that they did. They wouldn't um,
and I was rooting for them as as as America was,
you know, all vascination was. But I'm not shocked that
they broke up. So I agree with you. Do you
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think Claire messed up? I don't know the right words. Uh,
sort of sabotaged herself by not being open to the
process and all the other men, because the odds were
not with her that this was going to work out
with the one guy she met three times? Did she
blow it? Should she have gone through the process even
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if she was in the und ultimately going to end
up with Dale. I felt like she screwed herself by
just being like I like that guy from the second
he got out of her limo. UM. I will say
this is easy to say now that that they've broken up.
What if she had gone through the process and ended
up with Blake, Let's say Blake Moyn's and they said
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together for three months. You know he lived in Canada, Like,
who knows what could have happened, So it's easy to
say now that's looking back and playing Monday morning quarterback saying, oh, yeah,
you know, it could have been somebody else. But I don't,
you know, with these things, you never like there like
another version, like my parents dated for six months before
they got engaged, and you know, not in nine months.
They were married from the time they met each other.
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And then there are couples who know each other for
eight years, they get married and then they divorced after
Like you know, my parents still have been married after
four years, right, And there are people who go out
for eight years and then they divorced after a year marriter,
So it's so hard to say, like what would have happened? Crap.
But I still think she kind of blew it because look,
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this is just my opinion. If you're gonna buy into
it doing it, you gotta buy into it and kind
of do it right. And she really like turned it
on its side. Although I loved Tasia, so I was
super stoked that we got Tasia. Yeah, here's my perspective
on it. So I agree. I feel like she should
have given a little bit of more time, and you know,
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I don't know how long that was, but it was
probably just a few weeks um. And but then I
look back on it, and I'm like, if she just
kept going with it, it would have been almost like
a loser situation because she would have been that girl
that would have disrespected the rest of the guys because
she only had her eye on one of them. And
so it was kind of like I thought she might
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have been in a losing situation either way. Does that
make sense? I think that's fair. Yeah, And not only that,
looking it the other way, I mean, for her she
felt so strongly for somebody, you know, for whatever reason,
it would be almost like, you know, it's it's almost
like she's like cheating on him by like kissing these
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guys continuously and holding their hands and go through that
process too. So I don't blame her for making that
decisions if she felt that what she did, Like, once
you feel it, can we control how we feel? You know?
We can't unfeel, you know, That's how we work. I mean,
I agree with you all, but still a smart person
knows it was not the odds were not with her.
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It was so chancey. And then she's sort of I
don't know. I mean, we could do a whole episode
on that. Well, we'll move on alright, so many other things.
We'll have to dive on Claire because I think she
screwed up, but that's all right. Now she's and then
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now she's all heartbroken and it sucks. Whereas like maybe
I don't know, one of those other dudes was really
her soul mate. We've all screwed up. She went to
the shiny object. That's what it is. Okay, let's talk
about this really fast. She went for the shiny object,
which I've been told I go for the shiny object,
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and sometimes you're not supposed to go for the shiny object.
So Joe, why do ladies go for the shiny object
instead of like, I don't know, the the metaphor the
night at that or like right, the solid piece of
metal if I'm going with the metaphor, Like, why are women,
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in your opinion as a man, so attracted to the
shiny object? The male model? Dale? You know whatever, um
I would say in fairness and Dale, he's not just
a tiny Dale was actually very well spoken, very intelligent.
You know, he's like he's like I've said this before,
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and I said on the show multiple times interviews, like
when we're going that through that transition phase on a
first date or like in three dates, which is what
the Bachelor is. If I went on the same date,
the same amount of time with the girl and like
Dale and I had like three hours with there at
the same restaurant, you know, the same food, same drinks,
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the same everything. The girl Big Dale like under times
and that's just a fact. And that okay with me,
Like he's he's a stud, like and that's like but
you know, you know, but that's why we're so dumb,
because yes, Joe, yes, because I think that's like you're
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you're only like thinking about the thing right in front
of your face. But if you're thinking about like a
happy life and like true love, like Dr Joe could
be your man. I don't know. I've got like just
probably trash behind me too, kidding. Were talked about a donation,
So yes, tell everybody, Tell everybody what you're doing with
(46:38):
your which if people see this on our social that's
not garbage. Behind Dr Joe, what are you doing? Yeah,
I'm just gonna co drive And um I just was
saying how um I posted on Instagram, I would love
if people donate the coats. They recorded themselves and then
just posted it this Sunday, you know, January. So I
(47:00):
just you know, it's getting really cold right now New
York and a lot of parts of the US, and
I figured I had some extra coats that I was
gonna donate, and I asked my friends, and they have
some extra coats there that they could donate. I figured
fascination is such a loving community that maybe they would
have coats too, So I just made a post saying,
if you have any coasts to donate, donate it, record
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yourself donating it, and on Sunday, January one, post a
story of be donating it, you know, show people like, yeah,
you're like, I don't need this anymore. I hope somebody
get used out of it and just tag me, And
I would love to just repost it and be like yo,
like we all did this together as a community, um,
and just help, like just to show other people, you know,
show ourselves and other people like which she brings us
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right back to being at the dinner table with you
and Dale and God bless Dale. But ladies, stop with
the shiny objects or he's very shiny though he's very
I mean he like he's like very burned. My eyes
when I looked at him. Dart to Joe, Amy is
hyping you up to a new level. And I'm here
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because doctor doctors are the brad Pitt. I don't get
near you, but doctors are the new brad Pitt because
it's like, holy crap, Like if you're like, yeah, this
is my dude and he's a doctor, everybody's like what
so okay before but yes, but I need to know
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what is happening with Dr Joe and his I know
it's hard dating in a pandemic. I don't really like
advocate for it. It's a little, but it's hard. Like
what are the ladies d M ing you? Like? What's happening?
Obviously they're m a lot of inappropriate things. Please save
that the inappropriate. I'm just kidding. No, it's actually very
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nice and uh there's some thirsty ladies, but then there's
also some quality. There's some quality. Yeah, I honestly don't
really respond to DM. I I don't know. I'm like
I'm a millennial but just barely and I just quite understanding. Yeah,
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I'm gonna set you up very sick, very six? Yes,
and what's your ideal ad? Rings like thirty to forty? Um? Yeah,
I think thirty to forty is great. You know, someone
more like mature. It was kind of like, you know,
knows himself. I think that's what everyone wants to some degree. Right,
So I need to think this through, but we'll make
it happen. Anybody you need to be in New York?
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Are you open to like long distance? Um? I think
you know relationships are so hard as as it is
to make something work really meaningful. One. I was just
looking for. Um, I think you know distance is important.
You know proximity is pretty pretty. Can't we take into
Connecticut or do they need to be like I think
(50:02):
we could think it to try state? No? Maybe is good?
All right? All right, um, Becky, let's go to Becky.
Hi Joe, how are you, Becky? How are you good? Okay?
So you are obviously very busy. Um, so I wanted
to know, especially right now it's so stressful. What do
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you one doing for fun outside of work? In two?
How are you staying healthy during these times? Um? Yeah,
good question. Um, definitely have had to improvise with the fun.
I'll see what I'm not doing. I'm not eating in
big groups and restaurants. I'm not traveling to you know,
(50:45):
like Central America. I'm not going to big concerts with
groups of friends. All things that I would love to do,
you know during normal times. Um. But you know, really
for fun, I just I like to I do like running,
um when you like working out. I do like reading. Um,
I do like watching like nature documentaries and um my
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Active Teacher is actually great when I just watch, it's
really good, really fun. Um. I like, you know, I'm
just going to the internet, going on a weird like
Wikipedia YouTube kind of loops. Um. And yeah, and and
most of all, I just it's such a gift now,
you know. So we do have some outdoor dining. It's
really cool. But there's outdoor dining and maybe once a week,
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you know, with appropriate distance. And again in the outdoor setting,
it's still worth meeting um somebody um and just talking
with somebody um. And this thing that we took for granted,
you know, seeing a loved one, a friend, just sharing
a meal and experience with this person and spending time
with them. Ah, it's such a it's such an event.
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It's such a beautiful thing now And I think that's
something we can all take away that all the things
that we had that were surrounded by, like for twenty
four hours a day, you know, working from home and
just being at home all the time, like none of
it made us happy. Like it's all. It's all yes,
you know, like that watch that ring, you know, the
TV maybe we needed, but you know, all the things
(52:13):
just were meant nothing. I mean nothing. And the most
important things, obviously are you know, sharing time, shared experiences
with your loved ones um and obviously UM, doing the
things that makes us happy UM and traveling and just
experiencing things, experiences and people, things that I think obviously
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more important. And I try to do that as much
as I can. So you're obviously not watching Bachelor, But
are you watching any other TV shows? Like what do
you do at night to relax? Is that the bubble bath?
Is it? Oh? Jeez? Nothing, I don't want. I barely
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watched TV. I mean that, like the like I watched
sports sometimes, um, because it's dramatic and we all need
some drama in our lives. And that's what I realized,
Like humans are Like I don't watch The Bachelor or
the Bachelor, Um, even though they are great shows Monday
Monday MS, I don't care, but um and an institution.
(53:19):
Some would consider the Bachelor Bach institution of television. But um,
that is like a relationship drama, and that's something I
really just don't care for in the real sense. So
I don't know. I wouldn't go and seek it out
on TV. But what I realized is as a man,
a lot of men like drama too. They just get
a de form. It's like drama is a drug that
we all crave, and I just before my life is
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last minute shots and game any touchdowns and some and
and maybe some people love it in the form of
relationship like where she won't she? That's somehow men think
Intel Ladies like, yeah, listen up, that's how many things intel.
They like it too, but they just get it from sports. Yeah,
do you go or play tennis or pickle ball, which
(54:04):
is the fastest growing sport in America. I just learned,
what's what do you got going? I pickle I gotta
get onto the pickle ball ground. Huh jeez. I heard
pickle ball is very hot, hot hot. I ordered the cattles.
I haven't used them, But what what's your sports, Joe,
or is it just I love surfing. I've got a
(54:27):
couple of I got two boards right here, like looking
at me in the face right here. Unfortunately they stayed
pretty dry. Um. I have surved in the winter, but
it's a little hard. Um, it's not the most enjoyable.
And normally I will travel, but obviously that's not of thing,
so surfing would be the other thing. Um. I do
like to run, um and just again just go to gym. Um.
I do like basketball when it's available. I don't play
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as much, um, but yeah, I just I think movement
in any form it gets those en doorphins out and
I really think it is a key. One of the
keys to promote people from to happiness is just we
cannot set up Dr Joe like either. I am going
to find you your girl. I'm really good at it,
(55:08):
really good. So we have one more question um that
I think a lot of people really relate to you
right now. UM. So I'm gonna bring in Riley um
to ask her question. Hi, Dr Joe. Um. So, I
(55:33):
don't know what's been going on, but I am at
a peak high anxiety right now and I just want
to know if you had any tips to help me
out anything I can do? Oh man, Um, first, sorry
to hear that, Riley. Um, but I think I think
we all have anxiety right now. Mine right mine is
(55:53):
I don't know what's going on besides the world. I
don't you know anything I can control. Um. I Again,
I don't think there's a good answer to that. To
be honest, Um, I think it's really natural and normal
at this time in life to have some anxiety. I
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think it'd be weird not to have anxiety. So I think, well,
I'm just recognizing that, you know, it's okay. You know,
like you how feeling how you're feeling is is justified
and honor that feeling. You know, it's it's normal. Like
as a as a female, Like what I like to
do to do that or like to kind of settle
(56:35):
my anxiety is a hot bath or working out or
Um I've recently got into see the d um like
what do guys do? Like what what are guys? You know?
Like what do guys do to kind of relieve some
of their anxiety? Yeah, that's a good question. So I think, um,
(56:57):
like a lot of guys and again in different forms
will just like to really exert themselves, like like you
gotta like get out that pent up And I think
anxiety is this part of it is. And again this
is just you know, one man's opinion, but it's this nervousness,
this energy that you have pent up that's towards something
that you can't control, like depending on like the situation
(57:18):
that's going around us. And and so it's just this
nervous part of this is the nervous energy, as almost
some anxiety is. And so two one you expanded energy. Men.
I think I love to lift weights and to run
and to you know, play sports because this thing, again,
it's all of this just using that some of that
energy that we all have that kind of when we
sit still could just have these outlets where you know,
(57:41):
we create tension. If we don't create tension by moving,
by by like running faster or or straining our muscles,
then that tension kind of goes somewhere and maybe that
goes to our psyche. And so I think movement is
a big thing. And and again doubly good is that
movement not only releases that pent up energy that I
think could feed some anxiety, you also also obviously release
(58:02):
releases endorphins, so it's like it's doubly good. So, um,
I do think it. It approaches that anxiety in multiple ways.
And I just think for men, movement and physical activity
in whatever form that may be, is a good Why
you men? And I'm being general because I think there's exceptions,
(58:25):
but as a rule, men do not enjoy a bath,
not a guy move That's a really good question. And
uh and and and obviously Danny said that's one of
the things, like one of our go choose. And I
was just thinking, like I don't know the answer to
that question, because it seems great, you know, just to
(58:47):
soak in something and smell good so you run hot
and it's too sweaty in there or something. I don't
think that's it. Let me give it a second to think.
Why don't Could it just be the connotation like what
if they made like they could be a market here
like bubble bath it feels too soft, feels girly. There
(59:13):
could be something to that again just by association, like
why do you why do you women like um not women?
Why why is pink associated with women? Like don't I
don't know, It's like it's just society kind of decided
at some point movies, it was Julia Roberts in the
bubble bath, not Richard Richard gear. Did she pull him
in at some point though? Wasn't he kind of in there? Yeah,
(59:35):
kind of like she's going to make all that money
and she's like cut her headphones on and she's like
classic movie. But yeah, I don't know this bubble. I'm
gonna I'm gonna do a deep dive int the bubble baths.
And because I'm curious about that too, because it does
sound great. It does sound very relaxing the muscles and
(59:57):
kind of chill a bath in that New York apartment. Um,
I do, but again as a man, it's gone unused. Unfortunately,
we need to send Dr Joe a little thank you
basket for hosting how many things that has some bath bombs,
some candles, like a whole little thing. You're pretty much
(01:00:17):
sending me a big paperweight then, because they will never
do Riley, I'm not sure if that answered your question,
but but hanging there, and I do hope that's you know,
as society gets back to normal, that I hope and
I think that anxiety, Um, we'll get better. And again
(01:00:39):
you're not alone. We're all feeling it and uh yeah,
good luck and you're gonna it's gonna be okay, I promised.
Thank you all hanging there. I think Dr Joe needs
his and I think you're doing great already seriously, like
Dr So yeah, Doctor, I can't think of like the
(01:01:03):
if I say Dr Doug Ross, it's too it's too
archaic of a reference for our young ladies listening, because
that's George Clooney from e R. But like you're like
the TV doctor, like you're pretty smooth. Would you ever
like be the Doctor Gupta or the Doctor Oz or
the I think you're doing it now? No, I don't
(01:01:27):
think so not not in there for him um and
not because they don't well, I think those three are different,
um in what they their their mission is as a
doctor on TV Dr Gupta, I have a lot of
respect for um just semate great information, very fact based information,
and I'll leave it that um. But I really like this.
(01:01:51):
I like talking to individuals. I like seeing patients. I
like talking to them, and uh, I don't think I
would ever want to not do that because it is
such a sacred bond that you form and it's such
a so weird. It's just it's interesting to me and
play on the surgeries or are you ever in the
(01:02:11):
e er where suddenly they're like, I don't know, some
dramas happening and you have to like put somebody under
a real fast dat like that. Yeah, there's definitely some
of that, especially during COVID there's a lot of that.
You know, we we were putting in the breathing tubes,
which I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, we did all
(01:02:32):
these in debasions the majority of divisions, and so it
was it was pretty it's pretty hairy, um and it
was pretty scary. And yeah, there's definitely times where there's
scheduled surgeries, for sure, but there's definitely times where even
the scheduled surgeries, a lot of weird things happen. And
(01:02:53):
and then my set my hospital work as a trauma centers,
there's always somebody rolling in, who if my car felt?
Our story is so, yeah, you're speaking a little bit
of crazy here and there are either are either mom
or Dad park a doctor? No, No, you're just you
(01:03:13):
have older brothers are radiologists. Oh no, okay, so that's
interesting to your older brother is also a doctor. Yeah,
he's a really elogist. Yeah, in New York. Also in
New York. Also, Yeah, he works out on the Alloland.
Do I have to find him a wife or does
he have a wife? Yeah? I know he's good. He
(01:03:34):
asked one. He's fine. Yeah, So we'll focus on you guys.
Thanks so much for having me. There's a lot of fun,
and thanks to everyone who called in and asked the question. Um,
they're a really good questions. That's super informative, and uh,
I hope everyone learned something. Um, you know, we're all
going through a really tough time right now. Um, it's
(01:03:56):
been hard. There isn't a single person that hasn't been
affected by the pandemic personally, economically, you know, like psychologically, socially,
and so in every way we could possibly think of.
But this vaccine does offer hope, and it is going
to save millions of lives. And the sooner we can
(01:04:19):
all get it, you know, part of that's not a
lot of that's not not control. But the sooner we
can all get it, the sooner we'll all go back
to life as we knew it before. But that path there,
you know, we see that light at the end of
the tunnel. But the way they're still you know, right now,
we're in very dark times that that that tunnel is
still very dark and scary before we reached that light.
(01:04:42):
So it's important to keep social distancing, keep wearing the mask,
keep washing the hands, and and stay strong. And we're
all gonna get through this together. We just gotta stay
strong for the time being and and yeah, and then
we'll appreciate it even more once once it's over, and
it will end
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