So Rich

Country artist Tyler Rich joins in to answer your personal and pressing questions and reveal HOW MEN THINK.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is How Men Think with Broths and Gavin to
Grab and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another episode
of How Men Think. My name is Brooks Like and
this is the show where we dive into the male
mind and we give you the male perspective on all
things life. And we have a very special co host.

(00:22):
We do not have our good buddy Gavin to Ground
with us today, but we have a much more handsome,
much more rugged Hey, we have another fantastic musician to
sit in Gavin's chair and carry the load for Gab
while he's not here. We have the country music star
Mr Tyler Rich with us today. Tyler my brother. Welcome

(00:45):
to the show. What's up man? Happy to be here, dude.
I love One, I just want to say thank you
for coming on the show. And two, I love having artists.
I love like doing this show with gav artists in
my I have a lot of artist friends, and you guys,
sem to have just a real depth and interesting perspective
on so many things in life, and you just come

(01:06):
at things from a different angle. Um. So I always
appreciate when artists come on the show and I just
sit back and I listen, and we have producer Danielle
and producer Tor with us as well. And sometimes artists
will say stuff and we're just like damn, no wonder
they can write songs and like, just so well, I've
got I've got big shoes to fill because Gavin is

(01:27):
one of the best. You don't you have. I've only
met Gavin a couple of times in passing. Um, he
lives in Nashville, I believe most of the time or
all the time. So you know, we got some mutual
friends and stuff. Um, I'm uh. I know Brett Young
fairly well. We've toured together and stuff, and him and
bred are super tight. Um. But Gavin man one of
one of my big influences growing up. And so that's

(01:48):
really cool to phillip spot for a day. Man. Yeah,
you got, you get you get a cote with like
in a couple of days in the mail, you'll get
a co host, a co host like Sheriff's badge. You
can wear that around town if you want. Perfect Brett
was on the on the show. I know Brett well
as well, and I know you toured with Brett. I
think right, you toured with Brett, was it? Yeah, we

(02:09):
did the samet on tour is what it's called. Uh.
And that was yeah, the end of God Man, time's flying.
It was the end. It feels like it was yesterday.
It's crazy. So I want to talk to you first.
I want to get into what you're doing, Tyler, because
you're doing something super cool. Um. And it seems to
me that you have taken this quarantine time, this unique

(02:29):
and crazy, chaotic time, and spun it into an amazing opportunity.
UM because as an artist, you're not touring, you're not
performing concerts and venues. And so then it seems like
you said, Okay, I still love music. I have a
passion for music. I need to get it to people
people now more than ever. I know I'm consuming more

(02:50):
music than ever before. Um, during this time. And so
you've done something really unique where you go instant ground live.
What is it every you do Sunday, but you also
do it? Is it Wednesdays? What's the other one you do?
It kind of depends on my schedule, but anywhere towards
like the mid to the end of the week of

(03:11):
the work week, Thursdays, Friday's depends, and you put on
a live concert from your home. Yeah, man, this's couch trailer.
Live from home, so cool, live at home, so you
put on a live concert for fans for people to
tune in for free and watch. Um, and have been

(03:33):
creative with this? Has this been? I just want to
ask you, like, how what has been your mentality and
how have you turned this quarantine time into an opportunity
to be more creative? Is it? Are you finding yourself
more creative? Are you finding more time to write? Like?
How how does this work for you as an artist? Yeah?
I mean we've got we for sure have more time

(03:53):
to write, you know, We've got all the time in
the world. Um. It was. It was kind of crazy
when it first went down because I was on tour
with this band called Lanka Country bandon he got canceled
and then all of a sudden, within one day, we
were just everybody was home with no end in sight,
and then I had a headlining It was gonna be
my first sever headlining tour. I was so pumped. Um,

(04:14):
We're kicking off at the Troubadoor, which I lived between
Nashville and l a and so our place in the
l A is I could walk to the Troubador, you know,
and it's uh The coolest part though, still all through
this in really quick, is that on the Troubadoor window
still it says Tyler Rich sold out because it was
a week before the show. So I've claimed to my
steak at the Troubador. But you know, it was all

(04:34):
of a sudden, we're all stuck at home and we've
gotta figure out how do we maximize a brand new
business model we know nothing about. And so and that
is the Internet, right, We've all we're all toyed with it.
We've all had Instagram Live for so long. We've had
all these things for so long, but we've never fully
at least my perspective of a lot of artists, I know,
we would jump on in strogram Live for just a

(04:56):
few minutes be like heay, what's up, I'm on a
roller coaster. Look at me now. It's like, hey, I've
got this staying at my fingertips. Where I could have
created these relationships just for months and months and months
and years with these fans that I've never fully connected
with yet. And so immediately I was like, man, I
see some people that are some fellow artists that are

(05:16):
just jumping on and playing songs. I was like, I
want to create a structure. I want to create a
virtual tour. So every Tuesday I did the thing called
sing behind the Scene Tyler and Friends sing behind the Scenes.
So what that was is I would invite these songwriters
that I've worked with before, people have written songs with before.
You're just the best of the best in Nashville. And
they've come on and they tell a story and play

(05:38):
one of their hits, and then I would play a
song that we've written together. Um, and then I would
take a stab at covering one of their songs, and
then they would afterwards do the same thing, play another song,
telling story, et cetera. M Friday's Thursdays and Fridays and
give I feel like it feels like Home the Couch series.

(05:58):
And then that one is you know, at first it
gets a little weird, man, because you're just playing music
and you're used to interaction, you know, you used to
hearing people and now the claps are just hoping. They say, man,
I loved that song. You know, I didn't see this
watching it kind of go down and um. And then
Sunday's is my favorite. We do this. My wife is

(06:19):
she's wild. It's crazy. She's fun, she's the life of
any party she's at, always um. And we wrote a
song called Leave Her Wild. It's about Sabina's wonderful thanks
man I wonderful, crazy personality and my goal of I
met her that way and it was my goal to
leave her that way, and so I wrote that song

(06:39):
about it. And it's kind of been this beacon we've
realized for just you know, so many women and little
girls man at concerts will jump on their dad's shoulders,
you know, and they're like, this is my anthem with
my dad, leave me Wild. And uh, it's been really cool.
It's we're like, well, Sundays, if Sabina can't go out
on a rooftop and day drink and do normal brunch,
you know, and I can't go and do that with her,
why don't we take brunch tome. And so we created

(07:01):
a show called Leave Her Wild Sunday Brunched, and we
just we sit right here in this exact spot and
we get super drunk um and we we have guests,
you know, surprise surprise guests pop on and catch us
up with what they're doing, and then we do a
little bit of drinking trivia where we challenge them to

(07:22):
this card trivia card game and losers have to take
shots back and forth. Um, and we closed the show
almost like a talk show man. We closed the show
with the musical guests every week and somebody comes on
and plays their new single and then it's over. Um,
it's kind of created this whole. It really sucks, but
we don't get out there man, in front of people,
but it just creates created such an incredible and unique

(07:45):
bond with my fans that I've never even remotely had before.
I mean, you can get meat and greets, you can
run into a fan of the bar exchange, you know,
a little dialogue and whatnot. But there's been such because
it's the same people every week, you know, same people
tune in and to hang out and uh, it's it's
been cool, man. It's been a extremely inspiring and from

(08:06):
the fan perspective, they probably feel more than ever like
they know you, like they're friends with you, even though
they've never physically met you or something, or maybe they
haven't yet been to one of your concerts. Maybe they
were going to come to the headlining tour. But um,
even digitally, I'm finding it more myself as well. People,
people find ways. It's kind of the new It's kind

(08:29):
of the new normal. People are finding ways to connect digitally,
and friendships are forming that way and connections are forming
that way. I think it's super cool that you involve
your wife and your music. I think that's just like
what atribute to her. And I think the Difference was
was the Difference inspired by your wife as well? Yeah,
so the Difference is actually one of the few one

(08:50):
of the only songs I've put out. I didn't write
um and so, but when I was in that song
meeting and that song got pitched me and I heard
the lyrics of it'sunny because Sabina would always text me,
especially like that first year. If I would quickly be like, hey,
I'm going to the store, I love you, she'd always say,
I love you. There's a difference feeding me this song.

(09:12):
I didn't even know needing to exist for like a
year's time. And then we had a bunch of music ready,
and I had got my record deal and we were
getting ready to put out the first single. And it's
that first single has to make a splash, you know
what I mean, and what's gonna be And so we
did these songwriting meetings, and it was four hours into
a pitch meeting and the different started playing. And as
soon as I heard that hook in that course, there's

(09:35):
a difference between love you and I love you, and
I don't want to be the difference. I was like,
So I texted, I text I was like, yo, babe,
I'm sorry. You've been feeding me this song for a
year and I didn't take the bait. But I think
I found the hit song. Uh, and I'm gonna record
it and you're gonna love it. Ah. That's awesome, just
that encoded energy. Man, that's so awesome. I love it.

(09:56):
I love that you bring your love, that you bring
your heart into your passion. And I've always wondered that,
Like I have such a That's why I love doing
the show with Gavin. I have such a respect and
appreciation for artists one the ability to sing, the ability
to create music, the ability to to express themselves through
so much of myself. I find comfort and like a

(10:19):
companionship in music, you know, But I've never been able
to create it. I've never don't really creating. I played
different instruments and stuff, but I've never tried to like
express my heart through music and you guys, uh men
and women that are artists. I just have such an
appreciation for what you do. Somehow when you write songs,

(10:39):
they speak to me in my life and I'm like,
how it's it's almost like I was like, oh my god,
I couldn't have wrote this any better, you know, and
it was it's something that you're going through. So from
a fan perspective, like, I just want you to know
that what you guys do is so important. You know,
it's so vital and important, and especially now when the
world is running high on emotions and not all the

(11:02):
ones to have that kind of an outlet. Um. I
just commend you for one bringing your music to people
because you could have very easily. You don't have to
do any of that stuff. You don't have to make
yourself available or perform songs for people. You do it
because you love it and it helps people. So I
just want to commend you, man. I think it's really
noble what you're doing. Thanks man, Thanks man, I appreciate it. Yeah.

(11:23):
I mean, you know, obviously, all all artists, all musicians
are music fans. You know, that's where it starts. And uh,
you know, as an artist. I feed off that exact
same energy from people, and uh, you know, songs that
inspire me, I feel the exact same way. How the
hell did this person get that on paper make me
feel this way? And why can't I write songs like that?
So it's this content, Uh cons Evan flow for sure. Well, UM,

(11:46):
my schedule is pretty open. So like Gavin was gonna
feature me on his new record, you know, so you
need can come in years. I can probably do that.
You know, I've been man, I know nothing about ice skating,
and we can, we can, we can swift. Well, dude,

(12:08):
I love what you're doing. We'll get back. We'll get
more into that at the end of the show. But UM,
I want to I want to ask you some questions.
We have some listener questions and we want you know.
You're a married man, You're a very successful person. UM.
I also love that you are a dreamer and an
achiever of dreams. You didn't just end up as a
country music star like you said. You are a fan

(12:29):
of music. You created a life in music, um, and
are literally living your dreams. So um a great role
model for our community. So our community has some questions. Uh.
Producer Tor is gonna read them and then you and
I are just going to rip through them, uh and
see if we serve our community the best from the
male perspective, because the show is called Hell many things.

(12:49):
So producer to fire away with question number one, please
and thank you all right? Question number one? Moving in together?
What is it a good time? Is it a quicker
process us when you're older? Oh? How does this work
to you? Go first? You and your wife? How long

(13:10):
was it when you guys moved in? How long do
you know each other? Uh? It's hard because we're we
are still back and forth is an actors, and so
I'm gonna so we go back and forth still in
the same two places we lived when we met. Um.
That being said, had we been in the same city,
I feel like we would have steadily been staying together,
probably within like five weeks. I think when you're older,

(13:33):
it's easier. I think, Oh, no, I guess the full
move is harder. When you're younger. I'm gonna say younger,
it's easier. You've got less stuff stuff. I think the opposite.
I think the older is easier because you're like I
think you just have a better grasp on where you
are and where the relationship might be. When you're young,
it's like you want your space and this one and

(13:55):
like I'm like, what what did it stay out of
my space? What did you stay there? Stay here? But
as you're older, I think just the composure within a
relationship changes, and so all the all the interactions like
a moving in change. And I also think you get
to the point when you're a little bit older of
like is this real or just is this just kind
of a facetious relationship. So when you're younger, I think

(14:19):
you can be in a relationship longer without really knowing
what it is. When you're older, I think you get
down to the nitty gritty, like, yes, I'm invested in
this person, they're invested in me, and so maybe you
move in quicker. Um, that would be my answer. Yeah,
I could get that. That makes sense. The one is
from Shannon What do men think about dating woman with

(14:39):
a child? What are the drawbacks? Um, so, either you
wanted to if I met a woman with a child,
It kind of goes back to what you're saying with
you know pretty quick if that's something you're in a
fully invest in when you're um, at least my age
if I met somebody you know and she had a kid,

(15:02):
I mean that's a question. Uh okay, this is this
is this is the show Man because it's we try
and be honest. But also it's like so like I'll
say it like I would, I would probably prefer to
meet somebody who didn't have a kid, just in honesty
that there's nothing wrong than having a kid. But just

(15:23):
like I would prefer to meet somebody and and start
my family fresh and new with them. Um to, people
are gonna, you know, say what they want to say,
but um, it just is I'd love to start a
life and build a life together. Um you don't know
what the history is of the other partner or if
it's been good or bad. There's nothing wrong with a

(15:45):
woman having a child, but um, just being honest to
this show, I would prefer to meet somebody without a child,
you know, just to start fresh new history. I don't know,
I think yeah, I think the pre the preference is
there for sure because you want that first it to
be yours. You wanted to be that bond of you know,
you and her and then the child. Whereas in a

(16:06):
kid Man you nailed it with the ex thing you
know who knows what you're dealing with with the other parent. Um,
I travel a ton. I have to travel for work
or seven. So my specific situation would be I would
need um, a mobile partner and a kid, you know,
with the X in another place, I can pose a
lot of issues. So it kind of comes down to

(16:27):
career and but preferably without. But yeah, not a game,
not a not a deal breaker. I have one of
my best buddies has four kids and met somebody with
four kids, so now they have eight. And uh, I
was like, I was like, you guys, gotta have one
together just so you have nine. Then you have a
full ball team. Yeah, you're good to good man. Um

(16:52):
oh man, I think once you have for though, man,
I think if you have four and you meet somebody before,
you're like, oh, yeah, that's what it is here we are, right, Tory.
Next one. Next one is from Jessica, how to respect
your boyfriend's relationship with his mother. She is so overbearing?
Oh interesting questions. Thank you for that with Jessica. Interesting

(17:13):
question because overbearing is a very general term. I'd like
to know more in depth on what she meant by overbearing,
like injects in their relationship or is still so motherly
to the boyfriend, Like what kind of overbearing is it?
But like looking at it from the opposite, you know,

(17:37):
you also have to carve out your boundaries, you know,
for Jessica, like if if I was looking at a
father in law, if the father because like if I
was dating a girl the father in law it was overbearing,
I don't think I'd have to have a discussion and
carve out some boundaries with both of them, one with
with the woman and one with the dad. So maybe

(18:00):
that's the conversation with the boyfriend and be like what's
going on here? This is just what I see? Or
maybe maybe a conversation with the mom too, I don't know. Yeah,
I think you for sure have to. You have to
immediately signal that you of the respect issue there you
and you know you have to compliment sandwich it. You've

(18:22):
gotta hit her immediately with like, I understand, this is
your little boy, this is who you raised, and I
understand that you raised in a certain way that you've
been in control of his life, his entire life, and
you know you're his mom. There's nothing to'll ever change that,
replace that um and then figure out the nicest way
to possibly say it's my turn and then end it
with we love your input at the right time. But

(18:44):
you are so good. I have a wonderful father mother
in law, so I don't deal with that, but I
have in the past to an ungodly extent. That's why
you're so good at this. But how did you do
the how did you do the middle of this? And
which where you were like hey, bar pump your brakes,
you know like that? I was no. I was terrified

(19:07):
of her. I never had the talk and just let
the relationship and I was no. She was a scary
as well. What was the following up? Um, do you
guys value the dad's input more or moms? As a son?
I don't think you value one more than the other.

(19:28):
I don't think you value one more than the other.
What do you mean, like, oh from our parents? Yeah?
As a as a son? Yeah. Whose opinions do you
value more? Is it the moms or is it dad's speaking?
Just from my perspective, I don't value one more than
the other. Um, they're very different, but they they're very
they're both very um influential and necessary and loving and

(19:53):
kind um in their own ways. Um, I've always said
this about my hockey career. My dad was very constructively,
gave constructive criticism, always helping me to be better, wanting
me to improve and be better. And my mom was
always just like, you played your heart out, I'm so
proud of you, Like I could never play a bad
game with my mom. So they're both are very They're

(20:16):
very different, but they're very important and the same as
kind of in life, Like they show up different ways
in life. But I don't put more stock or value.
I respect my parents equally just how my life has
turned out, but it might be different for somebody else, Tyler,
what about you? Yeah, definitely. And I think in the
perspective of if it's um the mom that's overbearing or

(20:38):
the dad, and if you had to look at it
that way. On that other side, I feel like an
overbearing dad is a protective dad more than controlling. And
I feel like every dad i've ever you know, other
every girlfriend's dad that I've experienced, in their protective state.
They also were a guy our age dating a girl

(21:00):
at one point, you know, and a lot of the
way they might be treating their daughter's boyfriend might be
based off the way they treated girls when they were
growing up for things experience with friends and UM, you
just have Yeah, you have to. You've got to earn
trust with with parents, you know, and their little girl

(21:21):
might have been hurt. They might have been hurt. And
every action is always there's always weight behind in action,
you know. And if somebody is extremely overbearing, there's something
deeper usually involved there. There's a fear there, and you've
got to crack the fear and earn the trust, um
and then compliment sandwich sandwiches all day every day. Okay.

(21:45):
The next question is from t SI. What do you
guys think about infertility slash help issues while dating? Okay, Um,
I'll say health issue was um, just because I have
very personal experience with that with with an x amount. Um,

(22:05):
she had a really bad health issue for a few
years that we dealt with together. UM. I did not
know about it until about a year in or so,
and I won't get deep into details, but UM, at
that point we were super love and happy and everything,
and so it was like it was an easy battle
for me to fight with her. Um. It is definitely

(22:27):
infertility and health issues are two completely different, you know,
that could be two completely different topics. But um, I
mean it all comes down to the bond, right. I
would never drop something like that on somebody right away,
but as soon as you do feel like it might
be turning to serious because some people you know, prefer
to adopt you know. I mean, it's not gonna be

(22:47):
necessarily a deal breaker for somebody. You never know that. Um,
I don't know, having having experienced with that as well.
It's it's not an issue for me because you choose
the person. Ultimately, if you are in a relationship, you
are choosing the person, So you don't just choose parts
of them. You choose them as a whole, and they

(23:09):
choose you as a whole. And so if it is
an issue for you, you know, get out of the relationship.
It's not that's that's you're actually not choosing the person.
You're choosing circumstance, you know. So, Um, for me, in
my past and my history, UM, neither of those have
scared me because I chose the person. So I would

(23:33):
encourage guys to to look at that, and then women
to look at that, like, I choose this person, and
I'd have many friends who have I have a friend
that just got married um recently whose partner has some
health issues and they aren't concerned about it. They're like, yeah,
we know this, we were transparent about this. This is
our life. I love this person. Um, life will continue

(23:56):
with this person, and that's just part of our journey.
You know, you accept that versus trying to change it.
So if you choose the person, you accept that and
you move forward with life. I find no issue. Yeah,
I feel like if you're looking when you're looking at
a dating pool, very figuratively speech like speaking, if you're
staring at a dating pool, you're not necessarily looking around.

(24:18):
I never looked around cool. Who can I make a
baby with? Who's completely healthy to have a life with.
You look for somebody you connect with, right. You look
for somebody that you know you're physically you're attracted to,
and you love the personality and you love this about him,
and you go through this cycle of dating and dating
until you find the person that connects the most with
you and you know your soul like your partner, and

(24:39):
then everything else that comes on top of that. You know,
I'm not married to Sabina for the baby we might
have one day. I'm married to Sabina because it's Sabina. Yeah, yeah,
that's a that's a great point. That's a great lasting point. Wow,
excellent Tori from Anna or Anna not too sure? What's
the longest acceptable time to not have sex with the
spouse or partner and it be okay? Whole depends on it,

(25:07):
put a caveat on it depends if you are traveling,
you know, like your your career. You said you you
and Sabina live in different places back and forth, like
especially when you would be touring or something. When I
was playing hockey, Um, I was traveling a lot of
let's just take that out of it. But if you
are living in the same house, it's gotta be tough
if you go over a month, Yeah, for sure. I

(25:30):
mean life gets crazy, right, I mean we Sabine and
I we haven't these two dogs, one dog I've had
a fifteen years and then one dog that we just adopted.
He's fifteen, found him for eight ten weeks. He's like
a rehab project, trying to get him back up to
a healthy anyways, and he's a lot of work, and
there are a lot of work and we just candidly
we just had to talk, like two nights ago, we're

(25:51):
talking about when is the last time we had sex,
and we guys like, is this what it's like to
have toddlers? It's like, we have these kids that were
taking care of the senior citizen dogs. And I think
as long as yeah, as long as it's not something
where you guys are one person is upset about it,
you know, as long as it's not if it's something
where you're so busy that you don't realize it, I
think it's okay. But as soon as one person is like,

(26:12):
why does this person not want to then it becomes
an issue. Yeah. I also think you can prioritize it,
like because I everybody talks about a work life balance
or whatever, but there it's kind of just an integration
of a back and forth. Like sometimes you might swing
more into work, or like you said, it might be
a busy time you're really writing a lot, you've got
a couple or one new dog that you're really trying

(26:32):
to rehabilitate, maybe some of your priority and your resources
go there. But then it can also swing back to like, Okay,
I now really want to connect with my wife, you know,
and I want to focus on that and make at
home date nights or your Sunday brunch thing and turn
that into a romance or something like that. So I
think I think sexuality is something that gets pushed down

(26:54):
on the priority list on the totem pull for people.
They're like work, kids, job, would ever got a clean house,
get the groceries one of it. It's something that people,
at least in my experience I have like pushed down
versus holding up at the top, almost like living, eating, breathing. Um.

(27:14):
So I think at some point you just have to realize, Okay,
our connection has dissipated a little bit, Let's intentionally move
back into this space, and even if we aren't feeling it,
let's create even if it's not just naturally a pull
like oh my god, we're all over each other, Let's
create an atmosphere and environment or something where we are
making time to be intentional about this and that can

(27:35):
spark the natural poll too. Yeah. Absolutely, I would say
you said a month, I'm saying two weeks. But I'm yeah,
I'm gonna say two weeks a month. A month in
the same house, in the same you know, constant, constant
next to each other for a month without sex might
seem like a long time to me. But I've also

(27:57):
Spade and I the longest we've ever been together in
the same in the house, it's just like three weeks
around Christmas. Um, we're usually like on a on a
five day rotation, you know, like give her take um.
Whereas now we've been in the house for five months together, uh,
for the first time ever. And but yeah, I'm gonna
go two weeks, brooks aging. I agree with your two weeks.

(28:19):
I think it's like alarms are sounded in a month,
like we we But I agree with your two weeks.
Two weeks. It's like, yeah, we should probably do something
like I'd like some a month. It's like, oh, what's
going on here? State of the Union? Okay? Next story.
Next one is meg Montiana. How did men really feel

(28:41):
about therapy? I'll talk about this one because I said
this on the show. I've recently recently, like six eight
months ago, I went to therapy, and call it what
you want, therapy, counseling, um, you know, life counseling, whatever,
life coach, whatever you want, Put any title you want
on it. The stigma of therapy, I think shocks people.

(29:03):
But after I saw this, I saw a woman I
saw a guy and I saw a woman. UM to
walk through trying to release hockey and some of the resentment, bitterness, anger,
and and move through the the retirement process of hockey. UM.
It was wonderful tool. It was amazing and every time
I left, I was like, God, that was just an

(29:24):
amazing conversation. I was able to express myself to somebody
with an unbiased perspective. They asked me really unique questions.
They had tools to try and pull more expression or
emotion out of me that that maybe I had suppressed
or it wasn't even aware that I was feeling. And
so they were just equipped to have a very high
level conversation with what I was going through. So I

(29:47):
actually really enjoyed my my experience there and would be
an advocate for it for anybody. Prior to that, I
was like, I don't need therapy. I don't need this.
I could deal with it. I deal with my own stuff.
But after having gone to it, be advocate for it. Mhmm, Yeah,
there is such a stigma about therapy. UM. I don't

(30:07):
have the stigma about therapy personally. UM. I have never
done an official like sit down therapy session. UM. But
I'm completely not opposed to it, it just hasn't happened. Um,
I yeah, I think therapy is incredible. Yeah, a couple
of therapy, individual therapy, career therapy, whatever. People need to talk.
Mental health is important, very important, and it's like, um,

(30:29):
you know, if you want to improve your diet, you
go to a dietitian or nutritionist. You know, if you
want to get in better shape, you go to a
physical train like a fitness trainer. You know, we don't
do that for our emotions or our thoughts very much.
And that's just what a therapist or counselor somebody is.
There's somebody to help you move through what's going on
in your heart and your mind. And I think, um,

(30:51):
I think the stigma of therapy met people feel like
they're broken or the you know, you're not broken. We
all have doubts or concerns or is shoes that we
want to process. This is just somebody to help you
do that. So big, but develop on that. Why do
you think men don't are as open to going to
therapy in a generalized way because we think we're tough. Yeah, absolutely,

(31:16):
while we can handle it. I'll deal with it, don't worry,
I'll deal with. Like, we think we're tough. We UM
guys are for the most part, very independent, guys want
to solve issues themselves. There. For myself speaking, I'm very
much an introvert um. You know, it's tougher for most
men to express their actual truth and their feelings and

(31:37):
be vulnerable and open up and cry and like let
out their heart. It's tougher for men. UM. I don't
know why. Truthfully, I don't know why. It wasn't something
that my my dad told me you need to be
this way or this is how a man acts. I
don't know. We just it's just tougher for men. Yeah,

(31:59):
uh yeah, there's the I mean yeah, I mean every
man is right, and it's I don't really have many
friends that open up about anything that's going on with them.
You know, you gotta like, you gotta pride details out
of you know, abuddy that's upset usually And yeah, to
go and talk to a stranger sounds terrifying, but once

(32:22):
you do it, everybody says it's incredible. It's um. Like
you just said, Tyler, like, guys will get together, we'll
talk about things, talk about the game, we'll talking about
the new guitar. You guys, we're talking about the truck
you're looking at getting or like what's going on? And
talking about things we won't talk about, like how are
you doing? Brother? Like how are you? How are you
feeling with the uncertainty of losing the headlining tour and

(32:46):
now having to perform from your couch? Like how is
your heart doing? You know that guys don't generally do.
I think females are far more advanced at that than males,
you know, for sure. And it changes like an entire dynamic.
You know, it's like anytime you're hanging out with the guys,
it's always like a loud, rowdy, fun kind of experience.
And then m as soon as somebody says something like that,

(33:08):
like hey, how are how are you feeling? How's everything
going on? You know, it's the whole mood. Everything's changes
right away. And I think that's a change a lot
of guys aren't comfortable with yet. Yes, great point. Well,
this speeds in perfectly with Stacy. She asks how do
I get my husband to open up more? He refuses
to talk about his feelings. I really want to answer

(33:31):
this question, Well, ty, do you have anything on it.
I really want to honor this question. Yeah, honor the question.
Sabina wants to get something out of it, like actually
get me to open up and talk. She will. It's

(33:53):
hard because I'm kind of a closed book a lot
of the times, especially, and like even with her, like
I'm not supposed to so, you know, be open with
her about I'm feeling about everything. Um it's ah, it
just goes back to the tough thing. Man. It goes
back to the I've got this, I can handle anything.
But when I do kind of break down and actually
start talking to about stuff, it's usually um, I don't know.

(34:19):
I mean, she forces it out of me. So come
and sit down and she'll be like you're talking to me,
um or I'm not getting up. And but she can
definitely tell like when a full mood changes, like if
if someone's really bothering me. Mm hmm. It's that's a

(34:40):
great question. It's hard, all right. So as a as
a man, I wish I hadn't way more emotional capacity
and emotional intelligence earlier in my life. And I really
didn't really find it until um Tyler, we had two
dogs and our dogs passed away, and once they passed

(35:01):
my heart just broke open and it's the they just
gave me such a gift, and it's a lasting gift
that they gave me. There and that after that we
had our our pastors say a prayer for him and said,
I pray that this softens hearts, not harden's hearts. And
it completely did that. The passing a Lexi and Harley

(35:21):
completely softened my heart where now I am completely open
to sharing everything inside of it. And it actually makes
me proud to fully truly wear my heart on my
sleeve that what you see is what you get. That
I don't have to put on a facade or don't
choose to hide anything or have to be protective or

(35:42):
manly or macho like. Trust me, I can do that.
I spent fifteen years on the ice with lions at
the top level. I can do that. I don't need
to prove that anymore. So for me, it's actually been
amazing to like lower drop the armor and actually share
my heart. Um. And I felt so much more alive,

(36:03):
so much more expressed. Uh, so much less tension, so
much less hate or anger or any anxiety. UM. I
feel congruent, feel honest, and actually feel like you're honoring
your partner. The person you're having that doesn't even have
to be your spouse, could be just the person you're

(36:23):
having that conversation with, you know. And I don't think
anything has ever felt better than truly fully feeling fully
expressed through my heart. UM. So I hope maybe Stacy
play that clip for for your husband. But man, there's
just so much greatness that comes. And I wish I
didn't learn it until our our girls passed away, And

(36:45):
I wish I was a better man and could have
personally learned what that felt like. And that's why I'm
just so grateful for the gift that they gave me
and what I learned through that experience. But UM, I
would say that a way to get a way to
get a guy to open up, way to get your
husband to open up, is exactly what just happened to

(37:06):
have one of his friends another guy talk to him
about how they've opened up and how it has helped
their lives. Because hearing you just say that makes me
want to open up more. It makes me want to
go to therapy, It makes me want to talk to
see more about stuff that's bothering. UM. Hearing how liberating
it is to you and how it's uh, clearly just changed.

(37:26):
You know, your mindset, your mental health, you're likely your
physical health because I believe it's all you know intertwined. Um. So,
if you can't get your husband to open up about stuff,
you know, get one of your friends to inspire him
to great answer. Wow, I hope that helps, Stacy from Clara.
How do I create that spark in a marriage again?

(37:48):
I've lost my spontaneous sexiness and he's lost his romance.
Mm hmmm, mm hmm. Great question. I'm curious how long
they've been married one. There's no no insight to that
is there is Tori, there is not? Okay. Um And
I think I think the same with anything, the same

(38:10):
with if if you want a result in something, you
have to put resources into it. You have to. Um.
Let's be like, as an artist, you're probably not always creative,
Like seven years on end? Are you always just creative?
All songs come easy? They just come out of me,
like all the time. No, it it leaves you and

(38:31):
it finds you again. And and also like artists I
think are exceptional that like I want to go here
and write, I want to create an atmosphere and go
to a place where I'm I just feel creative and
creativity will come through me. Then, Um, I do that
with my gym. You know, I'm I'm an artist in

(38:51):
a different way. I create an atmosphere within the gym,
And so when I show up into my gym, I'm
not always just on fire ready to go, but like
I create this space. I'll put on some music, I'll
do some mobile and put resources into it and then
that energy will come through me. So the same I
think with marriage, within physicality and the marriage that you

(39:11):
can create an environment, whether it's lower the lights, put
on some light music, maybe get some flowers, maybe a
cent in the house, maybe a bath, whatever it is,
speak the love language of your partner, whatever that is,
and actually put resources into creating this environment. Will be
very intentful with it. Yeah. Um, and revisit, you know,

(39:33):
like revisit old pictures, old videos. Um. Sometimes I'll go
through my calendar and just look at random trips or
like what we're to being and I doing this day.
You know four years ago, what was going on in
either your computer or your phone. You've got you know,
you've got memories on there. Go back and revisit it
and kind of what you're saying, where I don't just

(39:54):
write songs all day, you know, it's gotta creativity comes
from other creativity and stuff. And it's like, I've got
to revisit if I'm feeling uninspired, if I just pick
up my guitar and I just start playing it, or
I start playing one of my favorite songs, or I'm like,
I want to learn how to play this song on
the radio. As soon as I start playing my own
creative juices and ideas start coming um slowly but surely.

(40:16):
And so if you sit on the outside and you
look at yourself as a couple and you think, man,
how do I get this spark back? What do I do?
And you just sit there, it's never gonna happen, you know,
Like it's it's slowly, it's it's little moves, it's a
little revisiting things, it's a little dates again, and it's
it's not gonna change overnight. You know, it's gotta you

(40:37):
just kind of gotta enter your way back in, I guess,
and then it's gonna explode. It's gonna go crazy. But
I have like two thoughts to two other things upop
my brain. I think one um is appreciation. I think
sometimes appreciation is lost, and I think that can dimmer romance.

(40:59):
And when you actually look at a person and and
not for what they do for you, not for what,
just like appreciating who that person is, um, loving that person,
loving the way they are in the world, loving what
they give to the world. Um. Just like full on
appreciation I think can bring back that that romantic look

(41:22):
at somebody. And then the other thing that I think
that just popped in my brain is just like a
little bit of a little bit of surprise and and
spontaneity of like maybe you leave a little note here,
you play a little sex game or something, or you
make a little sex bed on something, or like just
get playful again, right, like get playful again and whatever
way that is for you for the couple, Like get

(41:44):
playful in a way that actually brings some spontaneity, some
laughter and some like just joy and connection back to
one other. And then hopefully from that will stand more
romance and more spontaneity and more connection. Yeah, absolutely all right.

(42:06):
Next is from Carol. Do you guys care if a
wedding is postponed due to coronavirus just like us girls care.
I would say, yeah, I mean we just got married
September of last year, and um, I'm assuming this question
means does the groom care as much as the bride

(42:26):
does that their their wedding got postponed. Um, I would
say it's I mean, the wedding is supposed to be,
you know, as exciting on both sides, um, And a
lot of planning, you know, a lot of hard work
and very strategic planning and very seasonal planning, and you know,
it's a lot goes into a wedding. And I just

(42:49):
I've thought about it so many times that if we
would have got married this year and had to postpone
everything we put into that wedding, it would be OK. Yeah.
I have friends that had to postpone their wedding in
my heart absolutely breaks for them because reflecting on my
wedding and how that was just the greatest time of
my life, I just want everybody to have that experience

(43:13):
and that memory of your world, her world, both worldwiding,
the people you love the most in the world coming
together to celebrate love. UM. I just want that for people,
and it breaks my heart to hear weddings being postponed,
and so my perspective would be, yeah, from the guy's standpoint,
is as disappointing or saddening if the wedding has to

(43:36):
be postponed. How much were you guys involved in your wedding?
Did you guys have any groom duties? Like, I feel
like I need to be honest. Men are as passionate
about what the food is, what what song you walk
down the aisle too. There's a lot of details women
do that men aren't involved in. So if you're excited
about it, what were you excited about for your wedding? Well,

(43:58):
the involvement level went like it's like to me what
There's also like a recognition like who's better at this?
You know, like who's better at picking flowers or picking
design of something or color matching or palette or like,
let's be honest, I spent my life in a freaking
hockey rink, right, like somebody better at that. Somebody's better

(44:18):
at that than I am. Um. But then where I
was helpful, where I was like, Okay, if you're stuck
on a decision, full faith in you in what you're decided.
But if you're stuck on a decision. Bring me two options,
and I will help us hammer out a decision. Yeah. Man,
So well, your wedding was one of my wife's favorite

(44:40):
things she's ever seen, and so she bookmarked and pictured
all these things, and she's like, I want this, you know.
And then but choices and planning stresses to being out
to the like the full extent of stress. And so
she told me everything she wanted and we got, you know,
an incredible wedding planner. H And I have been performing

(45:02):
obviously my whole life, but I've been putting on events
my whole life, you know. So planning and structuring and
stuff has been part of my my whole existence. And
so um, I actually found a lot of fun in
the fact that I pretty much planned our entire wedding.
It was super stressful, but I also, you know, it's
a sli ish I'm looking around cause I'm afraid she's listening.

(45:24):
If she looks at all of these choices, she would
stare at him for hours, hours and hours and hours
maybe days. Whereas and I can make an executive decision
pretty quick. And if she didn't like it, you know,
she wasn't she wasn't at the meeting. But the wedding
was perfect. It was everything we could have ever imagined.
And yeah, my heart goes out to everybody that has
had to postpone, extremely sad. Yeah, this is the last

(45:49):
question going out to all the men who are looking
for their future bride. Some days from Heartbeak in two
and one, advice on how to get out of the
friend zone. Oh so this is a I is from
a guy. I mean it goes either way to go
for anybody stuck in the friend zone. Oh tailor as

(46:10):
old as time. Um, honestly ringe when we get asked that, Tyler.
Just the coldest, hardest, bitter truth is if you're in
the friend zone, you're supposed to be personally my experience,
it's and it's like and that doesn't mean friends can't
eventually you know, phone of or that one person isn't

(46:32):
you know. But I would say in most cases, if
that person that you like is asking you for about
other people because they're you know, dating other people, and
you don't get that vibe at all, that like maybe
they're shy to talk to you about it about you guys,

(46:53):
then that means there's probably just not that same spark
they're Unfortunately, I could be wrong. I'm just thinking of
what what's his name in the movie The Ugly Truth?
Where you did you ever see that? With Truth? It's
kind of like perfect for this how men think um?
With Gerard Butler? Correct Gerard Butler. Oh my god, Gerard Butler.

(47:15):
It's so funny. And he literally just like he does
this and he says something along those lines of you know,
he's just not that into um. But let's say that
there is something that could be there. But you're in
the friend zone? Do you risk at all to try
not to be um? Have you? Brooks's question for you?

(47:37):
Have you ever been in that situation where somebody want
to be more than friends with you and you blew
them off or vice versa. Oh what a great question. No, man,
I gotta go back into the drives because if we
take are, if we take personal accountability for this, you
might be able to give a better response. Um. I
So I do agree with you. I think you're right.

(48:00):
If you are in the friend zone, it means you're
probably where you're supposed to be. But if it's a
new friend, if it's an old friend you grew up with,
that could change. But I feel like, if it's somebody
new in your life, right, I actually think that way.
I think if it's an old friend, you're probably there
because you're supposed to be there. If it's a new one,
you might have a chance to like switch it up.

(48:20):
But I don't know, but I will say you agree
with you. I do agree with you that if you're
in the friend zone, it's probably where you're supposed to be.
But as there's an exception to all rules, as they
say or whatever. I know two people. I know somebody
who was in the friend zone for twelve years, knew
this girl for twelve years, was in the friend zone,
saw countless boyfriends whatever, and ended up um proposing to her.

(48:45):
They ended up dating. They ended up dating, ended up
getting engaged. They're not Verry Corona and stuff. But they
are now engaged. And he was in the friend zone
for a decade plus. He this is what I would
say to people. If you yeah, that's a question, how
do you get out? He shot a shot, He shot

(49:05):
He shot a shot multiple times. Actually tried once like
five years ago and it didn't work, And then he
tried again. She was single again a couple of years
ago or something, and He's like, listen, I'm not just
your friend, like I see you as more than that
in my life, Like, why do you think I'm around you?
Why do you think I'm invested in you? Like I

(49:26):
I love you. I don't know if you said that
on the first on that conversation, but like that was
the intention. I see you as more than a friend. Um,
And so he shot a shot. Man, I think, listen,
if you never shoot your shot, it's never going to change.
And at least you just got to shoot. And yeah,
at least if you shoot your shot, you know, and
you'd be like and you can be adults about you, like, hey,

(49:49):
I tried. I had to try. I had to try,
otherwise I maybe live with regret the rest of my life.
The fact that I tried shouldn't make shouldn't end our friendship,
you know, So you're not that kind of thing. If
that did work to like that kind of a long
friendship and then you guys start dating, that's uh, that's
one of those probably moving quick situations. I would guess

(50:11):
if you've got all that history, right, Uh, Tori, what
about you? What about me? How would you answer that?
If you are if you are a woman, and you
are in a friend zone, and but you like this,
if you if you are a woman, if I am
being a woman hypothetically speaking very PC of you, um,

(50:38):
I I am guilty of friend zoning a lot, friend
zwing yourself or friend zwing guys, probably both ways. Um.
But if I were a girl in a situation where
I wanted to kind of like put myself back out there,
I would just start asking for a lot of one
on one time with that person, besides doing like group situations,
just being like, hey, like the game's on, want to

(51:00):
bring a beer over and watch or kind of whatever,
just to ease my way in there. And then if
you guys are like on the couch and maybe he
sits closer to you, like, there's ways to inch that,
but you have to get your alone time in their
strategy and you gotta be you gotta be extremely strategic.
And if they like that thing comes through that text
comes through a friend of mine and says, hey, you
want to come over and grab a beer and watch

(51:21):
this game, I'm immediately going to think maybe this is
maybe this is a is this like a subtle date
kind of a solo hang And then you can easily
say oh, I've got something going on to be busy
and never even have to cross that road of having
an awkward friendship moving forward, because none of us are dumb.
We've been through this so many times. Uhumb just used lightly.

(51:45):
Men are kind of oblivious. Let's just point that out there.
I could be like, hey, leaning in for a kiss
and they're like, all right, so you know later like
she's not enemy, and it's like I gave you all
the signs, all right, are you trying to smell my face?
I would probably because I think I would. I think
I'd be like terribly oblivious. Yeah, like truthfully, like I

(52:06):
think i'd be terribly oblivious. Oh I didn't. Maybe now
I'm better as I've gotten older, but like, oh when
I was younger, for sure, like in my twenties, I
probably didn't even have a clue what was going on.
Yeah it's twenties. Is that's like a whole another lifetime though, right,
All these answers, all these answers for me are coming
from a thirty four year old male perspective, so different

(52:29):
than in the twenties. What was our conversation the other day, Tory,
we we're talking about like for a man if he's
thirty four, you have to for a man, you have
Oh yeah, so for when you date a man, maturity wise,
you subtract four years. So I'm twenty five. If I
date someone who's twenty five, I subtract four years, so
I'm really dating ad Yeah, got it, got it. It's

(52:51):
pretty accurate. Thank you. Yeah. Research and they say girls
are more mature. You have to add before correct. It's well,
we're just perfect. So we just come perfectly package. We
just run around it. Yeah. Um yeah, so that's I

(53:14):
don't know, just shoot your shot. If anybody stuck in
the friend zone, you have to. You just have to
at least for one on one time, ask for one
on one time. Yeah. I love that approach. I really
love that approach. Um. And you know what, throwing it
back again one of the other questions, and so we're
talking about, Uh, ask them real, real questions, you know,
not surface Get them to open up a little bit too.

(53:37):
Hey how are you doing? Like, how is it this
affecting your career right now? Um? And uh, the more somebody,
the more I've opened up to people in the past,
the more emotionally connected I've felt to him, and I
think that's a pretty standard feeling. Uh So that's our
that's our couple of tips of how to lure them
in the friends Zone. I guess, well, the Vaughans and

(53:57):
Friends Zone. Maybe we should do a whole episode Tori
on the friend Zone. I love it. Everyone can relate.
Everyone's been there, right, I appreciate your brother. Dude, you're
great at this. You should like, no wonder you can
tell they've been on camera and you've been like can
You're fantastic? Like some people come on. You have to
like get them to say something like you actually enjoy

(54:20):
conversing and like being in front of an audience, and
so you're you're great at Thanks. Yeah, I was sick
of the whole time. I was like, I need better answers, teller,
think better, think for what they want to hear. It's old.
Then I'm like, they're relying on us right now. Think
it's kind of the fun, Like it's kind of That's
what I love doing the shows where our listeners send
in questions and we get to answer because it just

(54:41):
comes out organically, like and to try and honor the question,
like how can we serve this person? How can we
help this person see what like be inside a man's mind,
like this is how we see things, um so. But
it's also it keeps your knife sharp, you know when
you do it live versus like, Oh that's why I like,
I don't get the They send me the questions before,
but I don't like reading them because I'm like, I

(55:02):
just want to answer with like what's truthful and honest
to me, versus curating some sort of answer. So, um so,
I appreciate your willingness to answer them. Brother, Um, I
think it's fun. Man. I've never done anything quite like that,
so it's fun. So once again, where can people let's
touch on this, where can people find you so they
can tune into your your live at home Instagram? Yeah,

(55:26):
every everything is just always under my name. So my
Instagram is just Tylerer less m is rich uh spelled
like rich um and everything Tyler's just across the board
everywhere you can get music, all that good stuff beautiful.
And then you go Thursday Friday. Do you put it
out in advance or do you kind of just pop
on like, hey, I'm live now, or do you will
you say like akmorrow at this time, I'm going live? Um,

(55:50):
I will usually drop the fields like home one UM
a day before or the morning of UM. And then Sundays,
unless I'm out of town or doing something, you can
always pretty much count on our Sunday brunch happening UM,
and that's always at one o'clock and it's fun. But
if you're gonna watch our Sunday brunch, have liquor because
it's a or some type of drink. And if you

(56:10):
don't drink, that's fine. You know, you can drink whatever
you want. But if you do drink, feel free to
partake with us because even though we can't see you,
it becomes a hell of a lot more fun when like,
for instance, Brooks' I'm gonna drag you on. You're gonna
be my surprise guest one of these times now, But
so so you The deal is basically when we do
this drinking trivia and I'll say, hey, everybody at home,

(56:31):
it's watching. You're either team Brooks or your team Tabina.
And to be if we have to take a shot,
you have to take shot. If you have to take shot,
they have to take shot. UM. And it's funny, man.
People get people get hammered and they start like you're
trying to answer the triviae questions in the in the
commons threads, and um, it's a lot of fun. We
have a good time. Yeah. The other day, I was

(56:52):
at my lake house and I played a game with
some friends. Um, I don't drink. It's something I don't drink.
I haven't drank in a couple of years. Kind of things,
just personal choice. But um, the friends I was with
didn't drink. Um, I can't have a drink or not.
I just whatever. I just prefer not to. But they
don't drink. Um. But two of our friends really like

(57:12):
energy drinks, you know, like Monsters, rock stars, whatever, rain whatever,
like energy drinks. And we played this card game where
when you lost, you had to take a shot of
an energy drink. And I hate energy drinks. I never drink.
I don't need the energy. But they're also just like
not good for you. And we played this game where
you had to take this shot the energy drink if
you lost, and it was just a freaking nightmare. By

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the end of it. Everybody's just like fly, every just wired, wired,
And it kind of just made it a fun stupid
like it kind of elevated a stupid little experience, but
it was it was actually really really enjoyable. And I
haven't had a because I tried a red Bull when
I was like twenty four, when I was playing hockey.
I'm like, I'm tired and I might need a red Bull.
I tried on my heart just about blew out my

(57:55):
chest and I'm like, yeah, I can't drink that crap um.
So I hadn't had one in like thirteen years. And
then we tried like shots of an energy drink the
other day and I was just like, oh my god,
what was my life coming? Dude? Your body was probably
going crazy. And then we've got you know, we've had
guests on the show that you know, we've had musical
guests at the end that are nineteen years old, you know,

(58:17):
and like or just you know, some of my friends
that don't drink and they come on and uh, they'll
do you know, shots of iced tea or like thin.
It's it's you know, it's not necessarily the alcohol. It's
it's the engagement that's fun. Yeah, you should make them
do not something nice though, they should do like a
shot of vinegar or a shot of pickles or like
something where it's like, oh, God, pickle juice. Pickle juice

(58:40):
is the jam man our pickle juice like a pickleback
is our favorite thing. I could drink pickle juice out
of the jar. Oh my buddies. If somebody I was like, man,
you gotta drink pickle juice. The shot is punishment, like
as much as you want, man, jeez um. And then
can you tell us about when Live at Home the
EP is out on what is July thirty? Is this
coming out? Yeah? So my whole idea with Live at

(59:03):
Home was, I mean, obviously we don't have any end inside.
We don't know when quarantine is gonna be over, we
don't know when I'm gonna get to start touring again.
And um, just kind of like an ode to all
of the fans that have been tuning in every week
to watch me play guitar on my couch. Uh. And right,
a lot of people will go and they'll play the Rheman,
or they'll do a big show and they'll release a
live full band live from the Rieman. And I was like,

(59:27):
when all this is over, you know, say a year
from now, touring and stuff, there's gonna be a bunch
of fans like, man, remember when Tyler. We just just
watched Tyler hang out in couch play songs all the time.
So I wanted to give them that as something to keep.
So I recorded five songs at home. I don't know
what I'm doing. I have zero technological education as far
as recording. I just set up Mike's played five songs

(59:48):
acoustic within saying no production, no edit, is just me
and my guitar, quote unquote, live at home, and uh
it's that comes out next week thirty one, super super
a super stript. I love that because I think what
I love about that and why I appreciate and respect
that is I believe a musician should be able to

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sit there with their guitar and nothing else around them,
no lights, cameras, dancers, fire works, whatever, and play music.
You know, yeah, like that's otherwise you're just kind of
a performer, but not like like, give me a guitar,
let me sit here, and I can entertain you without
anything else around. That is an artist. That is true

(01:00:34):
like honoring of the craft and then you can build
the other stuff around you. But like, I just love
that you're able to sit and do that. So I
can't wait till it comes out. Anytime you want me
to come on the brunch, I am there and also,
like I have, I'm pretty busy, but I'm sure i'll
find in phase space to be featured on your next album.

(01:00:56):
Like we'll have to talk to Gav wanted me to
be exclude, so you know, so, um, it is what
it is. But we're all friends. And yeah, you know, Gavin,
well this arm wrestler or something you know, who could
take as many shots pickle juice. You know, we'll figure
out a competition to earn your ear to earn your due. Yeah,

(01:01:19):
Kyler rich my man, I appreciate you, wishing you and
Sabinea the best. Also, I love that you have uh
two dogs. I'm a husky owner myself, so amazing. Yeah,
they're the best. She's walking around back there right now.
Thanks for having me, man, this has been an absolute
blessed Thank you, buddy. I appreciate your insight and love
to have you back on the show and love to
meet you when this whole thing kind of blows over,

(01:01:40):
I come to Nashville or something hang out. Um and
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