August 21, 2024 • 39 mins
Have you heard the latest gossip?! Kathy Santoni is like totally on the podcast this week! AnneMarie McEvoy, known to you as the infamous Kathy Santoni, is joining us for an interview this week and it's bringing us back to those early seasons of Full House, when Kathy Santoni was THE topic of conversation.
You'll be surprised to know that AnneMarie isn't too similar to her character, Kathy, who took shop class because she thought it took place at the mall... But, we love Kathy and AnneMarie all the same. This is a reunion you do not want to miss!!
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hey there, Fana Ritos. Welcome to an all new episode
of How Rude Tanner Ritos. Our guests today played a
character who was always a hot topic between Kimmy and DJ,
whether she's bragging about her moped, giving the girls a
crash course on Junior High, or taking shop class because
she thought it took place at the mall. Kathy Santoni
(00:38):
is always a topic of conversation. We are so excited
to have Anne Marie McAvoy on the podcast with us
today to talk about her iconic role. Welcome and Marie.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I put on mass scara.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
As long as you assume the position, the position terribly right.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, yeah for mascara guys for makeup.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
What you said, assume the position, assume.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The position, and then you open your mouth. Yeah, this
is a terrible out of context. That sounds terrible, But.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Hopefully they don't use that as the snippet for this episode.
You know what is happenings.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Kathy s Antoni shows up in a crop top and
this is what happens. We're We're so glad to have
you on the show though today, Amory, it's I mean,
we hadn't seen you from the original show until we
did Fuller House, so it has been slightly more recently,
but still Kathy Santoni is a fan favorite.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Just so you know, people are very excited.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well I'm a favorite. Oh no, no, yeah, yeah, you
guys favorite. So you know how long it took? So
I remember it was something like nine months, maybe longer
than that, like like you could grow a person in
a length of time between when they asked me about
Fuller House and when like a very very bigrudged, not begrudgingly,
(02:03):
that's not the great word. I was not going to
say Yes'm not going to say it's not going to Oh,
Jeff called, Jeff left messages you there were we talked
on the phone. I was still not sold. And this
is like nine months, right that this toll period. I
think you'd reach out here. And then finally my my
now nineteen year old, said I do I think, mom,
(02:23):
I think kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
That's like, you know what when your nineteen year old
was like that would be cool, You're like that never happens.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Okay, I'm doing it right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You have to do like I better do that like
lightning shell strike. So that was that was that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm so glad that you did, because, oh my goodness,
what a great, what a great cameo from Kathy Santoni.
But let's go back to nineteen eighty nine where it
all began with the Back to School Blues episode, which
we were just referring to with the Meskara.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, yes, what a great I mean, what just such
a classic episode. I mean, that's one of the ones
I think of very often. I mean, you know now
that I've seen it, but no, it's one of the
ones that I that I like, is such is so
indicative of like Kimmy and DJ's relationship, and and again
(03:14):
like meeting the the only the in name only person
that we've heard of Kathy Santoni, Like that was a
big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
What do you remember about your audition?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Like?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I have so many questions? What was what? What was
this your first acting job? What was your audition? Like?
How did you feel when you said audition?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm like, what, I barely remember most of the weeks
of relatable shit, So but I don't remember more more
than you guys do. I'm sure like you weren't watching
the episodes. I was, but I listened to your podcast
episode yesterday, like full on the whole thing, because we're like,
right now we have dogs, we like legos.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
So yeah, do you remember auditioning?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I mean I remember the latest memory of that in
any way shape.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Or had you seen like that you've seen before you
came door set? Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You know, so I started acting when I was six,
So you started acting at six, which is obviously Kathy.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
What did you you were at the audition?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I was at your audition read like No, there was
like a.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You were a third callback or something like that.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Oh maybe like a like a chemistry reading.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's what I remember. That's possible.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, of course it's possible. Kathy's Antonio. This was a
big deal. So they had to get it right, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right, you know, they knew so much then they knew
like they really It's almost like they had a vision
for a show.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So what did they tell you about the character of
Kathy Santoni, like in your sides or in the character description?
Did they say, you know, she's like yes.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So I played two types of characters at that time, uh,
because I was short, so you know, because like us
all and so I did DumbLand, you know, ditzy and
sarcasm right, like, oh really sarcastic. So I had a
Family Ties episode that was like I chewed up the
(05:08):
inside of my cheek just trying not to laugh, like
during this like Michael Keaton scene. So I'd done a
lot of like girl scout things and that was so
funny in my But that was like that was a
lot like the catchy Santoni character, I think, which was
just like innocence but like so like naive but like
(05:29):
an accidental I'm wearing that red top and that little
black skirt and I just kind of accidentally showed up
and like that was the thing to do. And I
have no idea what your question was. I'm really bad
at that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, what what did you know about Kathy Santoni before
you went into the audition? Did they say she's a
she's a ditsy character? Is she you know? Did they
talk about the crop top? Like what did they.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
She's Like, I have no idea other than I gave
the social Security number and possibly kidney away.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I don't know what happened in your vision.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Talked about my upper body tour, So yeah, well but
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Then, Okay, we will Will. We reviewed this episode of
like a month or two ago, and I my cheeks
got so hot watching rewatching that scene where I had
to stuff my As a thirteen, I was so mortified,
mortified to wear the crop top or I.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Was mortified because my belly, Oh my, I would never
very Yeah, I went to Catholic school, like this was
not so I was super uncomfortable and I thought it
was just the baddest thing ever. Oh I know.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I know, but that's I mean, that's what it was.
And then that is very much what this business really
makes you feel or think about. And even then when
you are then you're like super skinny and you're like, oh,
I don't look like that, Like there's no you know
again what we do ourselves as women.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And sort of but like I am right. But for
watching it, it was it was a very eye opening thing.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
We went, oh, this is I don't know for like
this now this feels this hits a little different in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, you're like, I don't know anyway, but.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Moving out. Look, we all stopped at the same time.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
As a horror fan, I have to say this. You
you were Sarah and children born. Yes, I love. Sorry,
I love horror movie.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I like, Okay, I was gonna that was what I
was gonna ask. Was you were in a horror movie?
Are you one of those people? That's because there are
some people that are in them and it are like,
I would never watch it.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'm terrified of this right now.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I I love watching it, but AV knows that terrify me.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I'm then You're like, I'm interested.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So no, yeah, I'm terrified.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
No. Not.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
How old were you when you did that movie? And
do you remember much about that?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I turned eight on the set of that one, so
I looked like I was six, But so I start out,
it came off from Ireland and I was six. I
did like our chie bunker was my first.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
In the family. Oh my god, yeah, wow, you got
to be the.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Question this episode. Oh I had a thick accent?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Classic.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Did I punched him? I might have punched him in
the stomach or maybe that was somebody else him. I'm
not actually sure. We have to ask, you know, we
should ask them stuff? Is my mom? So I know, right,
our moms know we're your stage parents. It was you know,
stage guardian, stage person. How do we be inclusive now
(08:24):
they and she had to that was that was her job.
We need more from Ireland and she's like, I can
go work, or we can do this together and try it.
And as it turned out, we had we had a
week a week where we're back to back. She was
doing full out with two different kids.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Oh wow, as a as like a set guardian.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
For my brother, for my latest brother.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
He was in, Oh for your brother.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh, this is deep guy he was because you don't know,
because he was an extra.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
What episode did he get a credit? Was he credited?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't think so, because you would know that that
is not as an extra. Probably, yeah he was. It
was kindergarten classrooms he was in.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
With Oh my god, we am there are well we haven't,
we haven't gotten there.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know, Kathy Santoni's younger brother would be in Michelle's
class because you know they're all sort of at the
same school going through things. So that that tracks right
actually yeah right, But we had no idea we had generations.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yes, we have the Nackavoy slash Santoni's.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yes, yes you did, right, Yeah, it's uh what a lineage. Well,
I mean that was the time bring up. I mean
I think we were in this like protected time where
if we were older, we it was it was dangerous.
And if we were younger, like like thinking like Nickelodeon
was aft kind of after us, Yeah, dangerous and if
we were maybe certainly we were in a different place,
(09:47):
like a different production company, a different alright, well we
would have been da We know.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
We were very lucky on Miller Boyette in our on
that little bubble.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I mean, we've had Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
On the show, and she talked about her experiencing step
by steps same thing where it was like the producers
and it came from the top like loved and nurtured
the kids on their show.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And we were we were We always.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Talked about we were very very lucky because we did
have kind of a nice little bubble of normalcy. Dare
I say amongst amongst those shows like we there were
so many kids on them, and we knew it was
just it was a it was a good safe environment.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We had wonderful studio teachers, we.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Had wonderful set parents, we had amazing producers like it
just nobody would have gotten away with I think anything,
you know what I mean, It was it was a
it was a family. So yeah, that was very was
it like that on like bigger like the movies you did,
like Children of the.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Corners because he liked these kids. So there was a
lot of us were also like kind of that cohort
was in who was in movies, Danny Cantaro who I dated.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Ah, he came back and I was gonna say, I
was like back in the day, back in.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
The day, I'm watching the Lisa Show and like she
wow spills the news and I'm like, uh huh right.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
We're all like we were all like right and yeah, yeah,
dat is right right right.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Such a sweetheart. Here's what I'll tell you. There is
no rhyme or reason of this. We don't make sense.
It's my little ADHD neurodivergent brain is all over the map.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So here we are.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's why we would hang out.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
There we go, let's see. This is why, this is
why it makes sense because was going to have a point.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Place at the time. Well, this is It's just we're
going through points q, R and X and like flipping
into another dimension and then like back and then we'll
land the plane exactly. Yes, you and I would hang out.
You remember this, But you and I would hang out,
just like when we weren't filming, because that was in downtime.
I remember hanging out with Jody and then so but
(12:09):
that's our memory. That's why I didn't say no the
first time was because of you too. So as soon
as it was like podcasts, I'm like, yeah, that's the
reason I didn't because you guys. I remember Jody as
being the did you have a big wheel?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That was the little one.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But I was always hanging out with Ashley and Mary
Kate like I was very close to them. So yeah,
I'm sure at some point I was riding around on
it because I would write as an adult, so I remember.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I remember like it was a little bit borderline whether
you should actually be on it, but you were on it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
There's I get on it today, Like I said, no,
there's no borderline, there's no there's no rules I can fit.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's a good clip. I think maybe that would. So
I remember you and your cool beans. I said cool beans.
For longest time, you were just such personality. Your personally
was huge. So I remember that from like downtime from
class and because I get my homework done like in
five seconds and then you'd already be done with school,
and so we get to hang out. I remember Andrea is.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Said, right, absolute, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Andrea, not Andrea. So you're good and well.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm not offended either way, but I say, and.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Or you can just call.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
We're close enough, you can call me a b oh rude.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Okay, oh yay, thank you very much. I'm staring at
your little dont.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's a purse. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I have some scripts. I have some uh huh, I
have some video behind the scenes and picture.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Got to send them to us, will you.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, yeah, you are pretty well.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Get in touch with you. And she's yeah, a lot
younger than us, so she knows how to work with
the technologies.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, she actually knows, right right, She's like, We're like, well,
I don't know. I have a home Incligion somewhere. Hold on,
let me dig it out.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
We'll send a messenger over.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
We send you a fact. I'll send you a fact.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I'm like, no, I expect people like show up with
with changes at my door in Cypress. Oh, now that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You lived in Cypress too, and so we were. We
also lived in Cypress, and so we were. No, it's fine, I.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Don't live there. Anymore. But yeah, I grew on Cypress. Yeah,
so it's fine.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I'm if someone wants to go searching Cypress for us,
we're not there, yes, but yeah Cypress. I mean it
was where I went to elementary school. I went to
and we lived in the same neighborhood. And Andrew was
also an Orange County I so the three of us
had slips, you know, we were definitely we were.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
We were leaving at the same time.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, hitting the same like doughnut chop or call right. Yeah,
oh my goodness. Oh, paper chase was the first one
I remember. So I have to do paper chase with John.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Oh okay, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And they wanted me to not have a shirt on.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay, what did your mom say about that? What did
your guardian say?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
She did not think that that was no, it was
my mom all the time. And she how how old
were you, mama clause Yeah seven? Oh, so it's a
second year of paper Chase, not right. And they wanted
me to change change pajamas. So who was and I
was the mom? I was? I was the mom in
a strange, strange form right at like age seventh. It
(15:37):
was June Lockhart and it was Anne Lockhart who June Lockhart.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
June Lockhart was the actress.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So was Anne?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Oh was it? Oh that's right? There was the daughter
right right, right, right, right right?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think I can't think of who's the one who
played my mom in it? So she was a law
student and she had to get childcare. I mean it's
super relevant now, like where are you going to? And
I had I think I had to come to class
or it's amazing, right and just you know they're so
close though, right, so much progress has been made in.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Right, But so you got so you did that at seven?
What was that like? Was that like your first big.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yes? Sorry, I'm not sure what you want me to change? Sick? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Everything, everything, change everything, sirih do it please?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Who know?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
That's all we had to do was just ask Siri like, hey, Siri,
can we have childcare and healthcare?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And you'd be like, yeah, I'm on it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Why I've just been waiting age income equality? You know
it's coming up. Women's Equality Day is coming up.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It is, and we still don't have the era A pass.
But we'll leave that for another time.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Uh, well we should we should do something on that. Okay,
I wrote something so I'll send it to your.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Fantastic so so you did it, go paper Chase. Then
Children of the Corn.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
They have no idea. I was on Magnum P.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I was Magnum PI and his mustache, Tom Selleck, Hardcastle, McCormick,
that one I do remember, Yes, Invitation to Hell.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, that was the mini serious era.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yes, the mini series era, and the era of like
TV movies that they'd give you thirty days to movie
the week, movie the week.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, thirty days.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
That's ridiculously generous.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well no, but then it would be at least now
you get twelve.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But you know you we filmed Children of the Corn
in thirty days.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean I yeah, we filmed in like eleven or twelve. Now,
so for these some of these, yeah, so I would
I'd love thirty days.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Twenty yeah, I dig, but no, so let's get stuff
done in five days. The sitcom can we follow that model? Right?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Sitcoms are a nice little machine though you kind of
jump in. It's got a grind.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh I didn't finish selling what I remember? I remember
Andrew for doing that's we would.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Not always think of me with you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I get to practice my craft, so as a kid
to be able to bounce stuff back and forth and
to practice and to get better and to practice timings,
and you're.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Ran lines together. I remember and worked on.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
By and absolutely and it was fun. You know, as
a kid. I didn't do it because I wanted to
be an actress at all. I did it was a job.
I'm going to college money all that. But when you
do something, you want to do it well. And I
took it pretty seriously. I didn't know there was another
roommate to take it. You go in, you do your
(18:41):
best right, sometimes they pick you, and then you really
want to get better at it. And the feedback, especially
from the audience and the it's just going getting so excited,
like you know, ready to walk out on Friday night
or Friday whenever we did it, Yeah, Friday, Yeah, yeah,
that's right. Oh that was. And so that's what I'm
remember about you is really getting to have that time
(19:02):
because Candice is you know the rady else is busier,
and you were on, but you were you were on
so much every week and then at the end, you know, yeah,
that's what I remember, and you were that was really fun.
So that's why you too.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You were on some some pretty heavy episodes too that
you were. You did thirteen Candles, which was a spin
the bottle, Spin the Bottle episode, and you did the
just Say No Way Drinking episode episode and Santoni's there
for what was mister i Q? You were in season
three and season four mister i Q, which I don't
remember at all.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
So there was a that was it was a Connie Chunk.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, Stephanie loved Connie Chunk. Connie Chunk as a joke.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Oh yeah, but again with the Connie Chunk, well, she was,
you know, it was a role model, was very important woman.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
He was like a school yes, but that was I
didn't understandn't know who she was or why they were
making those jokes. But we were in a classroom and
I said, I had a couple of lines. I said
a dumb thing because you know, I just filled out
the people who were in the university. Oh yeah, there
was There was to be a fifth one and I
(20:16):
it was the exit of my acting career.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Oh oh, I want to talk about this because you
and I have a very similar trajectory of leaving Hollywood
after Full House, because I did too. At eighteen, I
left Hollywood. I was like bye and I went to
college and I got my master's degree after that too,
And I know it's very similar. We're all like big
on education. So tell me about that decision, because I
(20:39):
want to compare stories about which one about about when
you decide? Did you decide to leave Hollywood? Was that
a conscious choice a deliberate choice? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Always?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I was always going to It was like I'm going
to college by Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It was for college. It was to get money for college. Okay,
I did it. So I never thought of thought that
I was going to stand so people would and people
would look at me like, she's got to be pulling
my leg. There's no, she's not. Actually, everybody wants to
be like famous, don't they like when we're in the bubble,
and and I just I that's not what I wanted.
(21:11):
I really wanted. I wanted to be a mom. I
wanted to be I have a PhD. I wanted to
be a professor. Those are the things. Yeah, But you
know what, sometimes my husbands don't like.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Don't they don't like that you were a former child actor,
that you were driven.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Oh okay, so we have that similarity. We have that
story too.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I heard I don't know anything you mentioned that, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, jo can't really, Yes, Jody can't relate to that, right,
because really you just exist in the television set. When
they turn it off, you disappear.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
So did you when you went to college? Was that?
Did you get recognized? Did you feel famous? Or did
you just feel like you fit right in?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I mean as much as anybody can feel like they
fit right in in college, which is not really but
I feel like I fit in more than they're than all.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay, okay, that's a great statement because I felt the
same way. I was like, this is where I'm supposed
to be. It just felt like a very natural progression.
And I people weren't like kids are nicer in college,
Like they're a little more mature at least than high
schoolers who just want to make fun of you and
call your names. Oh in college, you didn't have that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Oh god, no, you were so noticeable.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Well so was so so was the a B.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I feel like, oh yeah, no, when I like moving
into the dorms, I would come down the hall and
someone would start playing.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
The full house. No, or they write.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like notes on my like the outside of one to
ever think of that?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right, Oh, that sucks. Yeah yeah no, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, I mean there's probably creepy stuff too, just like
I get weird more of just six year old version
of me, Like that's not okay, right, however old I am.
Now you think that I'm that little girl in the
movie and that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, No, you.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Went to school for psychology and got your and education education. Okay,
so yes, what drew you to undergrad? What drew you
to psychology and education? Of what was your life plan?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
My life plan was to be the first female pope
for the first okay president of it. That's what I
would plan. Is like a thing that I remember thinking
that was like the thing to say. But I knew
I wanted to go to college. I knew I went
to my PhD. And along the way I and that
was my fourth grade. That's what I decided. Wow, I
(23:29):
have the nose. That doesn't even tell you that I can't.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You need you need to blow your nose. That's to
assume the position.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And no, no, I need to go. I need to.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Do you need a netty pot? We can take a five.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And because I have that, right, I could do that.
I could demonstrate for you on.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
This that this is a very special episode of Tannerto's.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Ya this week on a special episode.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yes, so you were always very very driven. You knew
what you wanted and you went after it. I mean,
it's so afforable that you weren't. You weren't just like, oh,
I'm just want to be you know, I want to
be famous and I want to be you know, it's
so easy to get stuck in that Hollywood trap.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I didn't want to be seen. I wanted to be
able to be seen, and I think people don't realize
that about kids these days, like to. I mean, I'm
actually without words as I try to describe how it
is to go about the world thinking that you, you know,
always you had to be on these If somebody saw
(24:33):
you doing such and such, then you know, then it
was over or then it was the price. That was
kind of message that I heard. I don't know want
you know my mom actually said.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And this was pretty internet too, this was I'm sure
you cell phones pre social media.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Goodness, Yah, goodness you've always been because I don't think.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Would you call yourself an introvert or an extrovert? And
have you always been that way?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Were you an extrovert that needs time alone to reach.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yes, that's why good distinction. Are you that too, me?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes, joys that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I can go out and I can go do things,
but then like don't talk and then I need like
like then I have over peopled myself.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Does that work for you?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Depends on what I do during the downtime.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
If I do something sort of meditative, if I'm like
I don't know, building legos or writing, or even if
I'm just kind of like zoned out like in my
hammock for a couple hours reading a book or something,
it does recharge me a little bit.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, So do you have kids?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Both of us do. Yeah together, but we have kids.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, yeah, we we do. We we have pleasing together.
It's we co parent.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Zoe and Felicity looked alike a lot like for a
long time, but.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yes they did. Wait are you the are you the
father of my children? Yeah? Our kids sixteen and fourteen almost.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Fortunate minor twenty and I was seventeen. So we all
have we all have older kids.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I have a nineteen and then I have it almost
I have thirteen almost fourteen, and uh, we're in it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
This is like a support emotional support group form.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Can we have that? We have like a whole podcast
on being being a chest actresses were growing up to
be parents of.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, just parents in general.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I feel like, what do you think so especially this
is the hardest age to parent, Like, is it the
the younger the early teen years, the later teen years,
or the adult child who which I call the baby
adult in the house.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Okay, well, okay, so tell me what is how old
is it?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
My baby adult is twenty years old and he's great.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
He's that's a baby. That's a that's not a baby
baby adult. So there's some thinking and here's the science
for you that this period of emerging adulthood you can
be considered an emerging adult, not yet an adult, up
through age thirty five. While that's five, Wait.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So thirty I feel like I'm still an emerging adult
forty eight.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So I'd like to go back to the I don't
think I'm in personally right, that would be great.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Quite enough of this emerging I would like to go back.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I would like to I would like to emerge re emergemges.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So was your nineteen year old emerging as an adult? Is?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Oh? He's dude, he's been a night. He's also nervous.
Oh I should not say that, No, I can't. Yeah,
we're we're we have we have some ADHD tendencies.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Solid yeah yeah, yeah yeah. My house is yeah, everyone
except my poor husband. So he's just like.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Wow, yeah yeah, but you still have.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
The well the newest one. Yes, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Sorry, how did you manage to figure it out? Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, I got divorced three times.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I wouldn't say that, you know, it's say I'd say
that it finally figured it out in there.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
That's the key word, that finally than.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Ever do here you heard here first, Kathy Santoni will
it's more likely that I will become enough.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Actually, I would like, I'm and you got to you
got to start somewhere. If you want to become the
first female pope.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
You don't just go taking over the.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh. I would not want that job. I would just
know to say masks. Oh god, no, right.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I mean maybe mainly for the hats and the capes
everything else not so yeah, no, I'm not so s.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, just pull out, pull out the red crop top.
You know, we'll get we'll get a great.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Right, oh it wasn't even mine. Like you know, how
you bring wordrom with you, that's not something I had to.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, you were like, I do not own this.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh the black skirt I had, but I would never
have worn of me really, crops. We were thirteen.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, we're so smarter now I'm thirteen. Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But also yeah, but it also like then I see
how kids dressed today and I'm like, they're all like,
it's sort of but it was. It was more the
like miniaturized version of like a like a white Snake video,
is what, you know what I mean? It was like
the fans that weld see like a Motley Crue concert,
except they.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Were Sha Chandra Chandra. Shanda, the other one in the episode,
thought she was the coolest. She's like, look at them,
they're like.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Like the the mean girl in the mea the mean girl.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
She was like their Brian shrimp.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh yeah, what was it?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
See we watched this a month ago and we've already forgotten.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Uppies, guppies, Amieba's guppies, something like that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Guppies.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I don't know. Well, yeah, our fans are so devoted
they they're writing on our Instagram right now what it is.
Because they're like they know everything, we know nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, I'd like to see a discord chat like alongside,
because if we did this, they would be like answering.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
We've had several Fancy, there'll be a I could I
could expectin it if I wasn't so.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Distracted by how pasty and round my face looks.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You look gorgeous. You look gorgeous, say gorgeous. Contour while contour.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Now it's now the podcast is becoming get Ready. We're
getting ready with Kathy Santoni today.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Here we go, get yours, get out your crop tops
and your hair crympt. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, do you remember crimped hair?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, this episode that we just watched for the next
recap episode that we're going to do, Canvas has un
ironically crimped hair the whole episode, like not like, oh
my god, it's a throwback, but like that was right
were they was the triangle shaped barrel or the little
Yeah do you remember they.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Have different attachments, like the different plates that that popped
into it. Yep.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Oh, the eighties just fried all of our Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Mine still has oh.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
A little wispy, But do you have great hair? You've
always had that great curly hair. Tony from your first
appearance right now, look at that hairy face.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
That great Irish hair is what it is? Great Irish.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, we don't. I don't have a thin hair. Prom
my kids hair is I they are. They're like they
mastered like ringlets like their hair and I have the
same hair curly and we did not have those products.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
That's what I'm saying. They don't. Yeah, all of these
kids now they got to skip out.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
On the on the awkward phase, right, we got to
live ours in front of everyone, you know, and now
they just skipped it over entirely.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And yeah, here's the thing, because I'm a researcher who
studies this y, they feel just as awkward in their
awesomeness now as we felt in what other people thought
was awesome. You know, I wanted to be Shawna Whipple.
I think that's what Shawna Whipples. She was the right
the white snake girl.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So you're you're an assistant professor at U c IRV.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I'm not. I was an assistant I was a tenured
professor and as a hot news as of just a
couple of days ago, since I am no longer I
left you.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Did, oh breaking news.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I didn't here on how right.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, there goes all the questions I was going to
ask about that. Well, that means another door is waiting
for you to open. And there are so many doors, yes,
so many doors, so many, so many.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Doors for them. The fifth episode that didn't exist is
when I was I was, I was done. I wanted
to be a normal kid. I didn't want to. I
wanted to be able to cut my hair or like
paint right with markers so that I got a hand
modeling gig. You were, you know, And I wanted to
go to birthday parties and I wanted to There was
(32:53):
a ski trip planned and we're ready to go on
a ski trip. And I got called to work and
I went, oh my god, I don't want to do it.
I don't want to do it. I don't And that
happened on other ones too, and I remember her saying,
so you know in this tone too, so you know
that if you don't do it, probably your last one.
And I said, I know, oh, and you should. You're
(33:15):
okay with that, I am.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
That's great that you had the forethought to know yourself confident.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Now I was terrified. I was terrified that I wasn't
going to exist as anything outside. You know, I was
the kid who did commercials and was on the random
and you couldn't be sure if people liked you for
that or or for you, and you know, self esteem
is such I study Adolyst development. As I research on it,
I teach classes. I taught a whole uh version of
(33:47):
the course, like a whole quarter of the course of
Adelst development around Full House. You I used examples from
Full House because the quarter before I was out it
at the end of the core. So I people would
find out, like at the end of of you know,
ten weeks or sixteen weeks of taking classes, they'd go, like, professor,
(34:11):
come up like really quietly after class, like and they said, so,
I was watching TV last night and I saw I
saw you. It was that you on Full House. I go,
You've an exam tomorrow. What are you doing watching?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
This is not what you need to be doing. Crack
op in a book, but yeah, right right. But they
were there were kauds. They were really good students, and
I mean, how sweet is that? And they'd like come
up quietly and like privately, until finally it was like
really close in the beginning of the semester, like close
to the beginning of the semester that I was outed
and then everybody finds out and it's like, oh, and
(34:51):
you can't really talk about myself. So then I just
leaned into it and did examples. So we had examples.
You teach about, I love these sexuality, you teach about, drinking,
about family, about peers about so that like, it's the
best show. I mean, it's a fantastic show.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Full house hit on all of those topics.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, very well, yeah, all right, all the biggies and
the identity, your sense of who you are and trying
on makeup and being his friends and fighting with your friends,
and I mean it really that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Was yeah, yeah, wow, that's brilliant. That's brilliant. And then
I got pre into it, and then you got pregnant.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
That had three found out later that the episode that no, No,
Scathy's Antoni got pregnant episode, the one right is the
one where she so it was talking about the show
was talking yeah about, but I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah that's so that was the one you were supposed
to be in, but you were just like, Nope, I'm
not doing another one.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I wasn't supposed to be in it. I was called
we had plans to go skiing. Oh oh, I know,
I'll say it anyway. I think my mom said she
made up an excuse like a broken leg or something
like that. Broken. I don't remember how this went down.
We'd have to ask them. I don't want to get
her in trouble. But she was. She knows, you know,
(36:14):
she was around. She We did it. We were a team.
We were in Africa from the for five months. I
turned twelve in Kenya. In Kenya, they decorated my tent
with lights.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So what an eclectic life you have lived, a child
actor to professor to whatever is on the horizon for
you next. This is just been a wonderful conversation about
your life and your memories.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
We are so glad that we got to have the infamous,
well deserved infamy. Uh Kathy Santoni on the show with us,
And it was so fun to have you on Fuller
and to now get to talk to you on Howard
dan Rito's. We've just we've loved having you as a guest.
Thank you so much for coming on, and.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, it was so great to catch up.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
But we have Dog episode that we need to have
some questions for you know you if you funs take
a look at them, I just think, yeah, I don't
want another wait millionaires, brace you guys again.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh no, no, no, no, we will have these reunions
more often.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
So great to see.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
And well then you know, the next time Kathy Santoni
comes up, we'll have to we have.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
There's a lot more episodes, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
All right, thank you so much and it's been a
pleasure you Well. That concludes our interview with Anne Marie McAvoy,
known to many of you as Kathy Santoni. Of course,
I mean she has so many fun memories, like you said,
an eclectic career from you know, a twelfth birthday in
Kenya to working on Full House and then Fuller and
(37:54):
Children of the Corn all.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Sorts of stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But we had such a blast talking to her, so
much fun to bring back some of these these ogs
from the original Full House.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
But thank you so much for listening, you guys.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And remember, if you want to find us on Instagram,
you can check us out at how Rude Podcast. You
can also send us an email at Howard Podcast at
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Speaker 4 (38:19):
As soon as they are released, which you know you want.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
You know you're justly to hear this.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh yeah absolutely, But anyway, thanks for joining us for
another fun episode. You guys, we love you, and remember
the world is small. No, yeah, yeah, the world is small.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
The world is small. But the world is small.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
But the cornfield is full, yes, yes, but the cornfield.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Is well done. Yeah, I'm glad you didn't say the
crop top is full.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
No no, well no, that's actually but yeah, yeah, whether
the world the world? Oh how did I miss this?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
The world is small.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
The world is small, and so is Kathy Santoni's Crompton.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I good, just kissed, see better the second
Hey there, Fana Ritos. Welcome to an all new episode
of How Rude Tanner Ritos. Our guests today played a
character who was always a hot topic between Kimmy and DJ,
whether she's bragging about her moped, giving the girls a
crash course on Junior High, or taking shop class because
she thought it took place at the mall. Kathy Santoni
(00:38):
is always a topic of conversation. We are so excited
to have Anne Marie McAvoy on the podcast with us
today to talk about her iconic role. Welcome and Marie.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I put on mass scara.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
As long as you assume the position, the position terribly right.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, yeah for mascara guys for makeup.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
What you said, assume the position, assume.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The position, and then you open your mouth. Yeah, this
is a terrible out of context. That sounds terrible, But.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Hopefully they don't use that as the snippet for this episode.
You know what is happenings.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Kathy s Antoni shows up in a crop top and
this is what happens. We're We're so glad to have
you on the show though today, Amory, it's I mean,
we hadn't seen you from the original show until we
did Fuller House, so it has been slightly more recently,
but still Kathy Santoni is a fan favorite.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Just so you know, people are very excited.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well I'm a favorite. Oh no, no, yeah, yeah, you
guys favorite. So you know how long it took? So
I remember it was something like nine months, maybe longer
than that, like like you could grow a person in
a length of time between when they asked me about
Fuller House and when like a very very bigrudged, not begrudgingly,
(02:03):
that's not the great word. I was not going to
say Yes'm not going to say it's not going to Oh,
Jeff called, Jeff left messages you there were we talked
on the phone. I was still not sold. And this
is like nine months, right that this toll period. I
think you'd reach out here. And then finally my my
now nineteen year old, said I do I think, mom,
(02:23):
I think kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
That's like, you know what when your nineteen year old
was like that would be cool, You're like that never happens.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Okay, I'm doing it right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You have to do like I better do that like
lightning shell strike. So that was that was that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm so glad that you did, because, oh my goodness,
what a great, what a great cameo from Kathy Santoni.
But let's go back to nineteen eighty nine where it
all began with the Back to School Blues episode, which
we were just referring to with the Meskara.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, yes, what a great I mean, what just such
a classic episode. I mean, that's one of the ones
I think of very often. I mean, you know now
that I've seen it, but no, it's one of the
ones that I that I like, is such is so
indicative of like Kimmy and DJ's relationship, and and again
(03:14):
like meeting the the only the in name only person
that we've heard of Kathy Santoni, Like that was a
big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
What do you remember about your audition?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Like?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I have so many questions? What was what? What was
this your first acting job? What was your audition? Like?
How did you feel when you said audition?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm like, what, I barely remember most of the weeks
of relatable shit, So but I don't remember more more
than you guys do. I'm sure like you weren't watching
the episodes. I was, but I listened to your podcast
episode yesterday, like full on the whole thing, because we're like,
right now we have dogs, we like legos.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
So yeah, do you remember auditioning?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I mean I remember the latest memory of that in
any way shape.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Or had you seen like that you've seen before you
came door set? Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You know, so I started acting when I was six,
So you started acting at six, which is obviously Kathy.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
What did you you were at the audition?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I was at your audition read like No, there was
like a.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You were a third callback or something like that.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Oh maybe like a like a chemistry reading.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's what I remember. That's possible.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, of course it's possible. Kathy's Antonio. This was a
big deal. So they had to get it right, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right, you know, they knew so much then they knew
like they really It's almost like they had a vision
for a show.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So what did they tell you about the character of
Kathy Santoni, like in your sides or in the character description?
Did they say, you know, she's like yes.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So I played two types of characters at that time, uh,
because I was short, so you know, because like us
all and so I did DumbLand, you know, ditzy and
sarcasm right, like, oh really sarcastic. So I had a
Family Ties episode that was like I chewed up the
(05:08):
inside of my cheek just trying not to laugh, like
during this like Michael Keaton scene. So I'd done a
lot of like girl scout things and that was so
funny in my But that was like that was a
lot like the catchy Santoni character, I think, which was
just like innocence but like so like naive but like
(05:29):
an accidental I'm wearing that red top and that little
black skirt and I just kind of accidentally showed up
and like that was the thing to do. And I
have no idea what your question was. I'm really bad
at that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, what what did you know about Kathy Santoni before
you went into the audition? Did they say she's a
she's a ditsy character? Is she you know? Did they
talk about the crop top? Like what did they.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
She's Like, I have no idea other than I gave
the social Security number and possibly kidney away.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I don't know what happened in your vision.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Talked about my upper body tour, So yeah, well but
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Then, Okay, we will Will. We reviewed this episode of
like a month or two ago, and I my cheeks
got so hot watching rewatching that scene where I had
to stuff my As a thirteen, I was so mortified,
mortified to wear the crop top or I.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Was mortified because my belly, Oh my, I would never
very Yeah, I went to Catholic school, like this was
not so I was super uncomfortable and I thought it
was just the baddest thing ever. Oh I know.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I know, but that's I mean, that's what it was.
And then that is very much what this business really
makes you feel or think about. And even then when
you are then you're like super skinny and you're like, oh,
I don't look like that, Like there's no you know
again what we do ourselves as women.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And sort of but like I am right. But for
watching it, it was it was a very eye opening thing.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
We went, oh, this is I don't know for like
this now this feels this hits a little different in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, you're like, I don't know anyway, but.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Moving out. Look, we all stopped at the same time.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
As a horror fan, I have to say this. You
you were Sarah and children born. Yes, I love. Sorry,
I love horror movie.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I like, Okay, I was gonna that was what I
was gonna ask. Was you were in a horror movie?
Are you one of those people? That's because there are
some people that are in them and it are like,
I would never watch it.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'm terrified of this right now.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I I love watching it, but AV knows that terrify me.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I'm then You're like, I'm interested.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So no, yeah, I'm terrified.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
No. Not.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
How old were you when you did that movie? And
do you remember much about that?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I turned eight on the set of that one, so
I looked like I was six, But so I start out,
it came off from Ireland and I was six. I
did like our chie bunker was my first.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
In the family. Oh my god, yeah, wow, you got
to be the.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Question this episode. Oh I had a thick accent?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Classic.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Did I punched him? I might have punched him in
the stomach or maybe that was somebody else him. I'm
not actually sure. We have to ask, you know, we
should ask them stuff? Is my mom? So I know, right,
our moms know we're your stage parents. It was you know,
stage guardian, stage person. How do we be inclusive now
(08:24):
they and she had to that was that was her job.
We need more from Ireland and she's like, I can
go work, or we can do this together and try it.
And as it turned out, we had we had a
week a week where we're back to back. She was
doing full out with two different kids.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Oh wow, as a as like a set guardian.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
For my brother, for my latest brother.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
He was in, Oh for your brother.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh, this is deep guy he was because you don't know,
because he was an extra.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
What episode did he get a credit? Was he credited?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't think so, because you would know that that
is not as an extra. Probably, yeah he was. It
was kindergarten classrooms he was in.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
With Oh my god, we am there are well we haven't,
we haven't gotten there.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know, Kathy Santoni's younger brother would be in Michelle's
class because you know they're all sort of at the
same school going through things. So that that tracks right
actually yeah right, But we had no idea we had generations.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yes, we have the Nackavoy slash Santoni's.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yes, yes you did, right, Yeah, it's uh what a lineage. Well,
I mean that was the time bring up. I mean
I think we were in this like protected time where
if we were older, we it was it was dangerous.
And if we were younger, like like thinking like Nickelodeon
was aft kind of after us, Yeah, dangerous and if
we were maybe certainly we were in a different place,
(09:47):
like a different production company, a different alright, well we
would have been da We know.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
We were very lucky on Miller Boyette in our on
that little bubble.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I mean, we've had Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
On the show, and she talked about her experiencing step
by steps same thing where it was like the producers
and it came from the top like loved and nurtured
the kids on their show.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And we were we were We always.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Talked about we were very very lucky because we did
have kind of a nice little bubble of normalcy. Dare
I say amongst amongst those shows like we there were
so many kids on them, and we knew it was
just it was a it was a good safe environment.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We had wonderful studio teachers, we.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Had wonderful set parents, we had amazing producers like it
just nobody would have gotten away with I think anything,
you know what I mean, It was it was a
it was a family. So yeah, that was very was
it like that on like bigger like the movies you did,
like Children of the.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Corners because he liked these kids. So there was a
lot of us were also like kind of that cohort
was in who was in movies, Danny Cantaro who I dated.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Ah, he came back and I was gonna say, I
was like back in the day, back in.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
The day, I'm watching the Lisa Show and like she
wow spills the news and I'm like, uh huh right.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
We're all like we were all like right and yeah, yeah,
dat is right right right.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Such a sweetheart. Here's what I'll tell you. There is
no rhyme or reason of this. We don't make sense.
It's my little ADHD neurodivergent brain is all over the map.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So here we are.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's why we would hang out.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
There we go, let's see. This is why, this is
why it makes sense because was going to have a point.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Place at the time. Well, this is It's just we're
going through points q, R and X and like flipping
into another dimension and then like back and then we'll
land the plane exactly. Yes, you and I would hang out.
You remember this, But you and I would hang out,
just like when we weren't filming, because that was in downtime.
I remember hanging out with Jody and then so but
(12:09):
that's our memory. That's why I didn't say no the
first time was because of you too. So as soon
as it was like podcasts, I'm like, yeah, that's the
reason I didn't because you guys. I remember Jody as
being the did you have a big wheel?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That was the little one.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But I was always hanging out with Ashley and Mary
Kate like I was very close to them. So yeah,
I'm sure at some point I was riding around on
it because I would write as an adult, so I remember.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I remember like it was a little bit borderline whether
you should actually be on it, but you were on it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
There's I get on it today, Like I said, no,
there's no borderline, there's no there's no rules I can fit.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's a good clip. I think maybe that would. So
I remember you and your cool beans. I said cool beans.
For longest time, you were just such personality. Your personally
was huge. So I remember that from like downtime from
class and because I get my homework done like in
five seconds and then you'd already be done with school,
and so we get to hang out. I remember Andrea is.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Said, right, absolute, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Andrea, not Andrea. So you're good and well.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm not offended either way, but I say, and.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Or you can just call.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
We're close enough, you can call me a b oh rude.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Okay, oh yay, thank you very much. I'm staring at
your little dont.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's a purse. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I have some scripts. I have some uh huh, I
have some video behind the scenes and picture.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Got to send them to us, will you.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, yeah, you are pretty well.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Get in touch with you. And she's yeah, a lot
younger than us, so she knows how to work with
the technologies.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, she actually knows, right right, She's like, We're like, well,
I don't know. I have a home Incligion somewhere. Hold on,
let me dig it out.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
We'll send a messenger over.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
We send you a fact. I'll send you a fact.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I'm like, no, I expect people like show up with
with changes at my door in Cypress. Oh, now that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You lived in Cypress too, and so we were. We
also lived in Cypress, and so we were. No, it's fine, I.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Don't live there. Anymore. But yeah, I grew on Cypress. Yeah,
so it's fine.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I'm if someone wants to go searching Cypress for us,
we're not there, yes, but yeah Cypress. I mean it
was where I went to elementary school. I went to
and we lived in the same neighborhood. And Andrew was
also an Orange County I so the three of us
had slips, you know, we were definitely we were.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
We were leaving at the same time.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, hitting the same like doughnut chop or call right. Yeah,
oh my goodness. Oh, paper chase was the first one
I remember. So I have to do paper chase with John.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Oh okay, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And they wanted me to not have a shirt on.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay, what did your mom say about that? What did
your guardian say?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
She did not think that that was no, it was
my mom all the time. And she how how old
were you, mama clause Yeah seven? Oh, so it's a
second year of paper Chase, not right. And they wanted
me to change change pajamas. So who was and I
was the mom? I was? I was the mom in
a strange, strange form right at like age seventh. It
(15:37):
was June Lockhart and it was Anne Lockhart who June Lockhart.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
June Lockhart was the actress.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So was Anne?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Oh was it? Oh that's right? There was the daughter
right right, right, right, right right?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think I can't think of who's the one who
played my mom in it? So she was a law
student and she had to get childcare. I mean it's
super relevant now, like where are you going to? And
I had I think I had to come to class
or it's amazing, right and just you know they're so
close though, right, so much progress has been made in.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Right, But so you got so you did that at seven?
What was that like? Was that like your first big.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yes? Sorry, I'm not sure what you want me to change? Sick? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Everything, everything, change everything, sirih do it please?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Who know?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
That's all we had to do was just ask Siri like, hey, Siri,
can we have childcare and healthcare?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And you'd be like, yeah, I'm on it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Why I've just been waiting age income equality? You know
it's coming up. Women's Equality Day is coming up.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It is, and we still don't have the era A pass.
But we'll leave that for another time.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Uh, well we should we should do something on that. Okay,
I wrote something so I'll send it to your.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Fantastic so so you did it, go paper Chase. Then
Children of the Corn.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
They have no idea. I was on Magnum P.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I was Magnum PI and his mustache, Tom Selleck, Hardcastle, McCormick,
that one I do remember, Yes, Invitation to Hell.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, that was the mini serious era.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yes, the mini series era, and the era of like
TV movies that they'd give you thirty days to movie
the week, movie the week.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, thirty days.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
That's ridiculously generous.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well no, but then it would be at least now
you get twelve.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But you know you we filmed Children of the Corn
in thirty days.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean I yeah, we filmed in like eleven or twelve. Now,
so for these some of these, yeah, so I would
I'd love thirty days.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Twenty yeah, I dig, but no, so let's get stuff
done in five days. The sitcom can we follow that model? Right?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Sitcoms are a nice little machine though you kind of
jump in. It's got a grind.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh I didn't finish selling what I remember? I remember
Andrew for doing that's we would.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Not always think of me with you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I get to practice my craft, so as a kid
to be able to bounce stuff back and forth and
to practice and to get better and to practice timings,
and you're.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Ran lines together. I remember and worked on.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
By and absolutely and it was fun. You know, as
a kid. I didn't do it because I wanted to
be an actress at all. I did it was a job.
I'm going to college money all that. But when you
do something, you want to do it well. And I
took it pretty seriously. I didn't know there was another
roommate to take it. You go in, you do your
(18:41):
best right, sometimes they pick you, and then you really
want to get better at it. And the feedback, especially
from the audience and the it's just going getting so excited,
like you know, ready to walk out on Friday night
or Friday whenever we did it, Yeah, Friday, Yeah, yeah,
that's right. Oh that was. And so that's what I'm
remember about you is really getting to have that time
(19:02):
because Candice is you know the rady else is busier,
and you were on, but you were you were on
so much every week and then at the end, you know, yeah,
that's what I remember, and you were that was really fun.
So that's why you too.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You were on some some pretty heavy episodes too that
you were. You did thirteen Candles, which was a spin
the bottle, Spin the Bottle episode, and you did the
just Say No Way Drinking episode episode and Santoni's there
for what was mister i Q? You were in season
three and season four mister i Q, which I don't
remember at all.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
So there was a that was it was a Connie Chunk.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, Stephanie loved Connie Chunk. Connie Chunk as a joke.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Oh yeah, but again with the Connie Chunk, well, she was,
you know, it was a role model, was very important woman.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
He was like a school yes, but that was I
didn't understandn't know who she was or why they were
making those jokes. But we were in a classroom and
I said, I had a couple of lines. I said
a dumb thing because you know, I just filled out
the people who were in the university. Oh yeah, there
was There was to be a fifth one and I
(20:16):
it was the exit of my acting career.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Oh oh, I want to talk about this because you
and I have a very similar trajectory of leaving Hollywood
after Full House, because I did too. At eighteen, I
left Hollywood. I was like bye and I went to
college and I got my master's degree after that too,
And I know it's very similar. We're all like big
on education. So tell me about that decision, because I
(20:39):
want to compare stories about which one about about when
you decide? Did you decide to leave Hollywood? Was that
a conscious choice a deliberate choice? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Always?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I was always going to It was like I'm going
to college by Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It was for college. It was to get money for college. Okay,
I did it. So I never thought of thought that
I was going to stand so people would and people
would look at me like, she's got to be pulling
my leg. There's no, she's not. Actually, everybody wants to
be like famous, don't they like when we're in the bubble,
and and I just I that's not what I wanted.
(21:11):
I really wanted. I wanted to be a mom. I
wanted to be I have a PhD. I wanted to
be a professor. Those are the things. Yeah, But you
know what, sometimes my husbands don't like.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Don't they don't like that you were a former child actor,
that you were driven.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Oh okay, so we have that similarity. We have that
story too.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I heard I don't know anything you mentioned that, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, jo can't really, Yes, Jody can't relate to that, right,
because really you just exist in the television set. When
they turn it off, you disappear.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
So did you when you went to college? Was that?
Did you get recognized? Did you feel famous? Or did
you just feel like you fit right in?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I mean as much as anybody can feel like they
fit right in in college, which is not really but
I feel like I fit in more than they're than all.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay, okay, that's a great statement because I felt the
same way. I was like, this is where I'm supposed
to be. It just felt like a very natural progression.
And I people weren't like kids are nicer in college,
Like they're a little more mature at least than high
schoolers who just want to make fun of you and
call your names. Oh in college, you didn't have that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Oh god, no, you were so noticeable.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Well so was so so was the a B.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I feel like, oh yeah, no, when I like moving
into the dorms, I would come down the hall and
someone would start playing.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
The full house. No, or they write.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like notes on my like the outside of one to
ever think of that?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right, Oh, that sucks. Yeah yeah no, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, I mean there's probably creepy stuff too, just like
I get weird more of just six year old version
of me, Like that's not okay, right, however old I am.
Now you think that I'm that little girl in the
movie and that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, No, you.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Went to school for psychology and got your and education education. Okay,
so yes, what drew you to undergrad? What drew you
to psychology and education? Of what was your life plan?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
My life plan was to be the first female pope
for the first okay president of it. That's what I
would plan. Is like a thing that I remember thinking
that was like the thing to say. But I knew
I wanted to go to college. I knew I went
to my PhD. And along the way I and that
was my fourth grade. That's what I decided. Wow, I
(23:29):
have the nose. That doesn't even tell you that I can't.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You need you need to blow your nose. That's to
assume the position.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And no, no, I need to go. I need to.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Do you need a netty pot? We can take a five.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And because I have that, right, I could do that.
I could demonstrate for you on.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
This that this is a very special episode of Tannerto's.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Ya this week on a special episode.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yes, so you were always very very driven. You knew
what you wanted and you went after it. I mean,
it's so afforable that you weren't. You weren't just like, oh,
I'm just want to be you know, I want to
be famous and I want to be you know, it's
so easy to get stuck in that Hollywood trap.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I didn't want to be seen. I wanted to be
able to be seen, and I think people don't realize
that about kids these days, like to. I mean, I'm
actually without words as I try to describe how it
is to go about the world thinking that you, you know,
always you had to be on these If somebody saw
(24:33):
you doing such and such, then you know, then it
was over or then it was the price. That was
kind of message that I heard. I don't know want
you know my mom actually said.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And this was pretty internet too, this was I'm sure
you cell phones pre social media.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Goodness, Yah, goodness you've always been because I don't think.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Would you call yourself an introvert or an extrovert? And
have you always been that way?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Were you an extrovert that needs time alone to reach.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yes, that's why good distinction. Are you that too, me?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes, joys that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I can go out and I can go do things,
but then like don't talk and then I need like
like then I have over peopled myself.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Does that work for you?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Depends on what I do during the downtime.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
If I do something sort of meditative, if I'm like
I don't know, building legos or writing, or even if
I'm just kind of like zoned out like in my
hammock for a couple hours reading a book or something,
it does recharge me a little bit.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, So do you have kids?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Both of us do. Yeah together, but we have kids.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, yeah, we we do. We we have pleasing together.
It's we co parent.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Zoe and Felicity looked alike a lot like for a
long time, but.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yes they did. Wait are you the are you the
father of my children? Yeah? Our kids sixteen and fourteen almost.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Fortunate minor twenty and I was seventeen. So we all
have we all have older kids.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I have a nineteen and then I have it almost
I have thirteen almost fourteen, and uh, we're in it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
This is like a support emotional support group form.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Can we have that? We have like a whole podcast
on being being a chest actresses were growing up to
be parents of.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, just parents in general.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I feel like, what do you think so especially this
is the hardest age to parent, Like, is it the
the younger the early teen years, the later teen years,
or the adult child who which I call the baby
adult in the house.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Okay, well, okay, so tell me what is how old
is it?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
My baby adult is twenty years old and he's great.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
He's that's a baby. That's a that's not a baby
baby adult. So there's some thinking and here's the science
for you that this period of emerging adulthood you can
be considered an emerging adult, not yet an adult, up
through age thirty five. While that's five, Wait.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So thirty I feel like I'm still an emerging adult
forty eight.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So I'd like to go back to the I don't
think I'm in personally right, that would be great.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Quite enough of this emerging I would like to go back.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I would like to I would like to emerge re emergemges.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So was your nineteen year old emerging as an adult? Is?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Oh? He's dude, he's been a night. He's also nervous.
Oh I should not say that, No, I can't. Yeah,
we're we're we have we have some ADHD tendencies.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Solid yeah yeah, yeah yeah. My house is yeah, everyone
except my poor husband. So he's just like.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Wow, yeah yeah, but you still have.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
The well the newest one. Yes, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Sorry, how did you manage to figure it out? Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, I got divorced three times.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I wouldn't say that, you know, it's say I'd say
that it finally figured it out in there.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
That's the key word, that finally than.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Ever do here you heard here first, Kathy Santoni will
it's more likely that I will become enough.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Actually, I would like, I'm and you got to you
got to start somewhere. If you want to become the
first female pope.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
You don't just go taking over the.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh. I would not want that job. I would just
know to say masks. Oh god, no, right.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I mean maybe mainly for the hats and the capes
everything else not so yeah, no, I'm not so s.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, just pull out, pull out the red crop top.
You know, we'll get we'll get a great.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Right, oh it wasn't even mine. Like you know, how
you bring wordrom with you, that's not something I had to.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, you were like, I do not own this.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh the black skirt I had, but I would never
have worn of me really, crops. We were thirteen.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, we're so smarter now I'm thirteen. Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But also yeah, but it also like then I see
how kids dressed today and I'm like, they're all like,
it's sort of but it was. It was more the
like miniaturized version of like a like a white Snake video,
is what, you know what I mean? It was like
the fans that weld see like a Motley Crue concert,
except they.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Were Sha Chandra Chandra. Shanda, the other one in the episode,
thought she was the coolest. She's like, look at them,
they're like.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Like the the mean girl in the mea the mean girl.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
She was like their Brian shrimp.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh yeah, what was it?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
See we watched this a month ago and we've already forgotten.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Uppies, guppies, Amieba's guppies, something like that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Guppies.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I don't know. Well, yeah, our fans are so devoted
they they're writing on our Instagram right now what it is.
Because they're like they know everything, we know nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, I'd like to see a discord chat like alongside,
because if we did this, they would be like answering.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
We've had several Fancy, there'll be a I could I
could expectin it if I wasn't so.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Distracted by how pasty and round my face looks.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You look gorgeous. You look gorgeous, say gorgeous. Contour while contour.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Now it's now the podcast is becoming get Ready. We're
getting ready with Kathy Santoni today.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Here we go, get yours, get out your crop tops
and your hair crympt. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, do you remember crimped hair?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, this episode that we just watched for the next
recap episode that we're going to do, Canvas has un
ironically crimped hair the whole episode, like not like, oh
my god, it's a throwback, but like that was right
were they was the triangle shaped barrel or the little
Yeah do you remember they.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Have different attachments, like the different plates that that popped
into it. Yep.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Oh, the eighties just fried all of our Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Mine still has oh.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
A little wispy, But do you have great hair? You've
always had that great curly hair. Tony from your first
appearance right now, look at that hairy face.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
That great Irish hair is what it is? Great Irish.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, we don't. I don't have a thin hair. Prom
my kids hair is I they are. They're like they
mastered like ringlets like their hair and I have the
same hair curly and we did not have those products.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
That's what I'm saying. They don't. Yeah, all of these
kids now they got to skip out.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
On the on the awkward phase, right, we got to
live ours in front of everyone, you know, and now
they just skipped it over entirely.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And yeah, here's the thing, because I'm a researcher who
studies this y, they feel just as awkward in their
awesomeness now as we felt in what other people thought
was awesome. You know, I wanted to be Shawna Whipple.
I think that's what Shawna Whipples. She was the right
the white snake girl.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So you're you're an assistant professor at U c IRV.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I'm not. I was an assistant I was a tenured
professor and as a hot news as of just a
couple of days ago, since I am no longer I
left you.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Did, oh breaking news.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I didn't here on how right.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, there goes all the questions I was going to
ask about that. Well, that means another door is waiting
for you to open. And there are so many doors, yes,
so many doors, so many, so many.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Doors for them. The fifth episode that didn't exist is
when I was I was, I was done. I wanted
to be a normal kid. I didn't want to. I
wanted to be able to cut my hair or like
paint right with markers so that I got a hand
modeling gig. You were, you know, And I wanted to
go to birthday parties and I wanted to There was
(32:53):
a ski trip planned and we're ready to go on
a ski trip. And I got called to work and
I went, oh my god, I don't want to do it.
I don't want to do it. I don't And that
happened on other ones too, and I remember her saying,
so you know in this tone too, so you know
that if you don't do it, probably your last one.
And I said, I know, oh, and you should. You're
(33:15):
okay with that, I am.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
That's great that you had the forethought to know yourself confident.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Now I was terrified. I was terrified that I wasn't
going to exist as anything outside. You know, I was
the kid who did commercials and was on the random
and you couldn't be sure if people liked you for
that or or for you, and you know, self esteem
is such I study Adolyst development. As I research on it,
I teach classes. I taught a whole uh version of
(33:47):
the course, like a whole quarter of the course of
Adelst development around Full House. You I used examples from
Full House because the quarter before I was out it
at the end of the core. So I people would
find out, like at the end of of you know,
ten weeks or sixteen weeks of taking classes, they'd go, like, professor,
(34:11):
come up like really quietly after class, like and they said, so,
I was watching TV last night and I saw I
saw you. It was that you on Full House. I go,
You've an exam tomorrow. What are you doing watching?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
This is not what you need to be doing. Crack
op in a book, but yeah, right right. But they
were there were kauds. They were really good students, and
I mean, how sweet is that? And they'd like come
up quietly and like privately, until finally it was like
really close in the beginning of the semester, like close
to the beginning of the semester that I was outed
and then everybody finds out and it's like, oh, and
(34:51):
you can't really talk about myself. So then I just
leaned into it and did examples. So we had examples.
You teach about, I love these sexuality, you teach about, drinking,
about family, about peers about so that like, it's the
best show. I mean, it's a fantastic show.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Full house hit on all of those topics.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, very well, yeah, all right, all the biggies and
the identity, your sense of who you are and trying
on makeup and being his friends and fighting with your friends,
and I mean it really that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Was yeah, yeah, wow, that's brilliant. That's brilliant. And then
I got pre into it, and then you got pregnant.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
That had three found out later that the episode that no, No,
Scathy's Antoni got pregnant episode, the one right is the
one where she so it was talking about the show
was talking yeah about, but I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah that's so that was the one you were supposed
to be in, but you were just like, Nope, I'm
not doing another one.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I wasn't supposed to be in it. I was called
we had plans to go skiing. Oh oh, I know,
I'll say it anyway. I think my mom said she
made up an excuse like a broken leg or something
like that. Broken. I don't remember how this went down.
We'd have to ask them. I don't want to get
her in trouble. But she was. She knows, you know,
(36:14):
she was around. She We did it. We were a team.
We were in Africa from the for five months. I
turned twelve in Kenya. In Kenya, they decorated my tent
with lights.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So what an eclectic life you have lived, a child
actor to professor to whatever is on the horizon for
you next. This is just been a wonderful conversation about
your life and your memories.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
We are so glad that we got to have the infamous,
well deserved infamy. Uh Kathy Santoni on the show with us,
And it was so fun to have you on Fuller
and to now get to talk to you on Howard
dan Rito's. We've just we've loved having you as a guest.
Thank you so much for coming on, and.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, it was so great to catch up.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
But we have Dog episode that we need to have
some questions for you know you if you funs take
a look at them, I just think, yeah, I don't
want another wait millionaires, brace you guys again.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh no, no, no, no, we will have these reunions
more often.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
So great to see.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
And well then you know, the next time Kathy Santoni
comes up, we'll have to we have.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
There's a lot more episodes, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
All right, thank you so much and it's been a
pleasure you Well. That concludes our interview with Anne Marie McAvoy,
known to many of you as Kathy Santoni. Of course,
I mean she has so many fun memories, like you said,
an eclectic career from you know, a twelfth birthday in
Kenya to working on Full House and then Fuller and
(37:54):
Children of the Corn all.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Sorts of stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But we had such a blast talking to her, so
much fun to bring back some of these these ogs
from the original Full House.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
But thank you so much for listening, you guys.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
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Speaker 4 (38:19):
As soon as they are released, which you know you want.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
You know you're justly to hear this.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh yeah absolutely, But anyway, thanks for joining us for
another fun episode. You guys, we love you, and remember
the world is small. No, yeah, yeah, the world is small.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
The world is small. But the world is small.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
But the cornfield is full, yes, yes, but the cornfield.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Is well done. Yeah, I'm glad you didn't say the
crop top is full.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
No no, well no, that's actually but yeah, yeah, whether
the world the world? Oh how did I miss this?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
The world is small.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
The world is small, and so is Kathy Santoni's Crompton.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I good, just kissed, see better the second
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