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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hey, fan Dorito's and welcome to a very very special
episode of How Rude Tanertos. Now, normally I would do
this intro just you know, improv, but because this is
such an important interview to me, I've written a little
something from the heart to introduce our next two guests.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is a big deal. AB has been preparing for this, so.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Today we are doing an interview that I have been
preparing literally for thirty six years. As a precocious thirteen
year old girl, my first loves were none other than
the five hardest working kids in show business, New Kids
on the Block and today Deep Breath we have Jordan
and Jonathan Knight on the podcast. They were young te
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teenagers when NKOTB was created in nineteen eighty four and
went on to sell over eighty million records, paving the
way for all those other boy bands that followed in
their footsteps.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
After breaking up.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
In nineteen ninety four, the band reunited in two thousand
and eight and have since done four albums, twelve headlining tours,
and twelve chartered fan cruises.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I've done five.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was going to say eleven out of twelve, eleve
only five, Okay, I got to catch up. Their twenty
twenty four full length studio album, Still Kids, debuted at
number four on the Billboard Top Album Sales chart this
May and landed the group's first Billboard Top thirty single
in thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Super impressive.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Jordan, who is one of the most dynamic performers I
have ever seen on stage, has had a successful career
as a solo artist and is now a restauranteer off stage.
And John, who has the biggest heart of anyone I know,
is currently starring in several successful renovation shows on HGTV,
including Farmhouse Fixer and Camp Revamp. This week, NKOTB announced
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that they will host their first Las Vegas residency in
twenty twenty five at the Dolby Live at Park. MGM,
I am so stoked. You're so excited. I am so
excitedly awesome. I love these guys for so many reasons.
I fell in love with them originally in nineteen eighty
eight because they were cute and they had dance moves
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that made me swoon. But today I love them because
their hearts are even bigger than their extraordinary talents. I
said I wasn't going to cry, and here we are.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
No, I'm so excited for this, so big, great for me.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
We Blockheads, as their fans are affectionately known, are the
luckiest fans in the world. What an indescribable joy to
discover that the boys you worshiped as teenagers grew up
to be outstanding humans who love their fans just as
much as we love them. There is a phrase five
Brothers and a Million Sisters which so perfectly encapsulates the
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closeness between the fandom and the band fans. It is
my absolute pleasure and honor to welcome Jonathan and Jordan Knight.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Are you going to pass out? If you pass out,
can I catch you?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Just hold me up.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We're here.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Come in and hai, that was so loud.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So excited to have Please have a seat on the couch.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Welcome couch.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Look at you as.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You do?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I have wait why you goose bumps?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
See?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I told you they were just well, I know, I
did an intro and cried, what's wrong with me? I
will let them, but I know them like why because
it's very emotion.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
New kids on the block are here. Well, two of
them to be clear. Can we get like a little
preview of what you like? Can you just do a performance?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Okay I want to ask that.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
I'm sorry, but no, we'll get to the podcast first
and then we'll get to all that.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But I got questions, so many questions.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Jonathan Jordan, we are so glad you guys are here
with us today.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Thank you for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You know.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
We drove to Vegas yesterday in a Hyundai Ionic, which
was so much fun, and Abe put on quite the
new kids playlist.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But yeah, I had to brief her.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Here's what, just do a deep dive and yeah, so
it was so it was the deep deep cut the block.
Well that's a deep cut.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Now it's the block, right, but a little a little
hanging tough in there, a little still kids, your new
album comes out?
Speaker 8 (04:57):
Yeah, yeah, I was like, just you hate me, tell me,
tell me what I need to do on this sounds fun.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It was so fun, it was. We stopped it.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
We stopped at Alien Jerky to charge the car, which
took like fifteen minutes to charge it, which was amazing,
very fast. We got some Alien Jerky not made it, really,
I said.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We went to.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Calico Ghost Town. We saw our performance.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, that was a performance.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
In a dry lake bed that was entirely powered by
the electric cars. Speakers, Yeah, a smoothie thing everything.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's like a reverse. It's a reverse. It's like a boost.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
Yeah, it's a boost, and you can actually power things
from the car.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So it was really cool. Anyway, it was It was
really cool. It was fun. We went to Calico ghost Town.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
I brought some ghost home for Andrea and yeah, and
then we made it here.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh yeah, barely stressed. I was stressed because I was like,
the New Kids have a launch party at seven and
our ETA is like seven to twelve. So yeah, yeah,
I gotta get that.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
I got us here in time. She I was like,
I will have you there by such. She's like, yeah,
we just kind of just you know.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I made it.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I made it.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I saw you guys. That was an incredible entrance. You
drove in on a double decker bus and announced your
first Las Vegas tour next year at the Dolby Live
at the Park. MGM, congratulations, you guys are crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That is are you excitable?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know we've been talking about it for so long, right,
and it really it wasn't until last night that the
billboard went up that it was real, you did this,
this is happening.
Speaker 9 (06:34):
Yeah, we've always like this for a long time. Twenty
years talked about Vegas and it always seemed like Vegas
always seemed like, you know, where artists go to just
retire basically, you know, that's what was the perception of Vegas, right.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
But now it's changed.
Speaker 9 (06:53):
Yeah, you have people like Usher and Lady Gaga and stuff.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
It's like it's the idea of a residency is no
longer like where you go to you know, so about
your years, it's like, oh, you have a residency now,
Like that's like a huge thing.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
So it's a cool thing.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
So it's like and it became cool and cool as
we went on, and we were always thinking, you know,
what do we do next?
Speaker 7 (07:17):
As as the new kids, what are we going to
do next?
Speaker 9 (07:20):
And Vegas has always been on our mind And finally
the time the time came and it was like last
night was it became real and it was like, wow,
we're actually we're here.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
We're here now.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, it went viral like people my phone was blowing up,
Oh oh my gosh, should you hear? And I'm like, yeah,
I kind.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
Of knew about, but it was you were so excited
about it, and like you know, Andrew and I were
talking to and it's such an interesting experience that we
kind of share in a weird way of like being
known for something that we did when we were really
young and kind of going away for a little while,
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like you know, taking a break and then getting this
like amazing resurgence that comes back in a whole new way,
and like you said, like the the emotions of.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It and being so.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
You're just like, we get to do this again, like
when we when we saw the Times Square billboards and
the billboards in La for full our House, same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Cry. It's all of a.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Sudden, That's when it feels real. Is that now other
people know they're advertising for it.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
It's not something that's going to.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Be like well, actually we're not going to do that now,
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So it's more than a job like these this is
these were our childhoods, These are our lives, you know,
and so it is it's I as an adult, I
appreciate it so much more. The perspective is.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Different for you.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Just even you think how many times in your life
do you get a second chance at some thing, and
you know, all.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
Four of us like, how lucky you, particularly in this
business where it's like once you've done a thing, it's
like okay bye.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
To have.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Fans that like are so loyal and connected to like
what we've what you guys have done, what we've done,
Like it's really it's it's so cool. But yeah, I
just wondered, like, what is that like to come back
for you guys?
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Well, no, I think and you guys probably feel the
same way as kind of like when you have a
hot show when you're when you're a hot artist, and
then it kind of fades away.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
You you start to question, you know, was that real?
Was that cool? Was that like right? You like have
self doubt, you know, and then when and then other
trends and stuff start coming in, like maybe like TV
shows started being different.
Speaker 10 (09:44):
And you're like, oh, we were on those like eighties cornah,
I mean, and then and then it comes back around
and the public wants that again, you know what I mean,
and inside of you it like goes like, no, we
were we were cool, Like.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
We did do something, we did do something that made
an impact and that was meaningful. So it's not like
you don't you don't want to go through life looking
for like that kind of external validation, but it is
real and it does feel amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, and I think as.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
An artist too, like particularly when you when you did
do something when you were young, or you're like, I'm
so I've changed now, I've changed, fans have changed this
and that that you kind of feel like, oh, yeah,
like maybe it maybe it wasn't that great, Maybe I
wasn't that talent, maybe it was just the zeitgeist of
the moment or whatever. But yeah, when you get to
come back and you're like, no, actually we got to
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create something, and whether it was comedy or music or whatever,
it was like that creative spirit is so.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Much fun to get to come back to. And I
did you guys have.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
A different perspective like coming back now as adults, well,
like having kind of taken a little break.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Or definitely but but but also I'm going back a
little bit. You know at twenty five was when my
career ended with the New Kids, And you know, I
don't think a lot of people talk about that, like
the pressure that was on me as a twenty five
year old to still you know, you got to you know,
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support everything that I had, you know, so that was crazy.
I don't know where I'm going with.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Hesitant to come back in two thousand and eight because.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Well, oh so, you know, I think us taking time
away from each other really helped. You know, we were
probably like you guys, we were young kids. You guys
were girls that we were boys. There was probably no
like fists being thrown at each other when.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
I don't think so, no, no, I tried to punch
me once, but yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Just just being around each other for you know, every
minute of the day.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
You just you get to a point where's just like family.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
You like you're feeling like for better or worse, like
real family, love each other like a family, and you
drive each other crazy like a family. And sometimes families
need time to part, and sometimes families go in great
vacations together.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And there, you know, getting getting back together, I mean,
we really talked about how, you know, what, what's going
to change, how it's going to be. You know, I
was definitely on board, but I was a little guarded,
like are we going to fall right back into the
same routine? And it worked out.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
It was, it worked out, and I feel like everyone
when we got back together, everyone was like it was
kind of like we're trying to figure out our roles again,
but we really didn't have to. Like it's settled and
everyone was in the same role.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah yeah, and totally understand. But that's exactly what that means.
We're like we're now, but we're still the same.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
Like everyone was like, who's the you know, this is
like everything settled, and it's just like, yeah, we went
fell into our same rules. That's how it worked, right,
That's how it worked in the past, That's how it
was working now. Yeah, So that's what happened when we
got back together.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
I was the same way I was, like, I was
kind of anxious about like will will we like have.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
The same you know, any kind of dysfunctions we had
in the past. And we did go through that like
friction period when we came back together and and it
did settle and then we started growing, right, and our
relationships are a lot better now than they've ever been.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Well, you get to come back to it again with
that like adult perspective, and when again, when you've done
something like as kids, you do weirdly fall into that
same behavior dynamic relationship, you know, And I mean we
all did it on the show too, whatever, and Dave
and John Lurid would come around. We were like kids
get you know, wait wait we are the adults now
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we got to you know. But you sort of fall
back into that and like it is nice when you
get to grow up together and be like, oh wait,
we don't have to be those people anymore. And that
was fine when we were you know, eighteen, but now
like now who are we now?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
How do we get along?
Speaker 8 (14:23):
But what what keeps you guys like inspired to keep
making music? Because that's like I just love watching artists
develop and change over time and like go from doing
something in one space and like continue to create and
change it. And I just would love to hear, like
what inspires you guys to keep writing and making music?
Speaker 7 (14:45):
I mean, you're artists, but yeah, it's just uh, making
new music is just fun. It's just like.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
It brings new life to the shows that we do.
It brings new life to us as a group. And
music is music. It just feels great, you know when
you're doing something new or you like, you know, you
hear stuff on the radio or you get ideas and
then you just like I want to do something like
that or something like this, or do something like that,
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and do something like this and put it together. It's
just the creative process is fun, and it's like it
keeps us alive as a band, and it keeps our
fans interested to do new things. It's it's it's the
fuel that keeps us going. I would say, just to
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do new music.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, Well you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Don't feel like you're stuck, you know, like.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Right like you and you know, we love saying our
hatphrases and we love doing our full house stuff. But
it is it's nice when you get to like expand
a little bit as an artist and like have the
gratitude for what people love, but also be like, but
I'm also still an artist and creative, been like doing
new stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
And I'm not you know, I'm not stuck. Thirty seven
years ago, Yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Remember in like nineteen ninety one or two or something
like that.
Speaker 9 (16:09):
Yeah, something like that, we were on a tour and
it was just like we kept touring and touring and
touring and singing the same song, same songs, doing the
same routines, and I was in their places were packed
and everything was great you know on paper, but I
was like I.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Was getting so depressed.
Speaker 9 (16:27):
I was like, oh my god, like we're just we're
robots right now, right, And I was just like, man,
we need to get off the road and do something
new or refresh this thing. So that's what new music
does for us.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I mean this past tour, the Magic Summer Tour, it
was so nice to like open the show with the
two brand new songs. Yes, it felt so good.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think I think we did a lot of new
music this tour, and this was probably one of my
favorite tours really, just I think doing a lot of
new stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, well you sang the closing song Better Days, Yes,
you were.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
The lead vocalist.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Was that this was like your first time being lead
vocalist seeing a full song like, well, could you imagine
nineteen year old Jonathan Knight see lead vocalist.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Could have done it back then easier than I could
have done it now?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, I don't know. I think I think my nerves
got worse as I got old.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh okay, I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I just didn't give it mentality.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You're like, I'll be the idiot, and then you're like.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Then it just got in my head.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, it was so special for not just the John
girls out there, but all of the blockheads. Like we
were just crying. We were like this is it, Like
this is it John? It was so special. It is
the best way to end to and the concert. And
so it's a great song. Yeah, but you both sing
on it. It's just the brothers. Brothers are singing together.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Love hearing though, like so many artists. And I think now,
like you know, I've talked about it, Andrew's talked about
like anxiety and that thing that you get, like it
is when you're a young person and it's just kind
of you're like you don't even think about it. You're
just that's just what you do when you're playing, and
you're like whatever, And then you start getting like this
perspective of like, wait, people are talking about me. Wait
what are people that you know? And you start like
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like tripping yourself out. And when social media hasn't.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Helped my nieces and you know, my nephews, but especially
my nieces, they you know, they are so insecure because
of you know what everybody you they post a picture
and then you know people are like, don't read the
comment the comments.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Yes, Number one up social media good for you.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Yeah, And honestly, when I stopped, I was like, what
do I do with myself?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
What I've got seven hours today that I killed, Like, I.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Just realized how much I was like.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Just mindless girl, mindless grolling.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
And then you get used to it and.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
It's like, oh my gosh, like I don't want to
do that again. Yeah, and all the fans are like,
come back to social media.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Social media, and I understand that, and it is fun.
It is fun to do. It's fun to create posts
and post them and everything else.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
But for me, it's I really like it not being
on social media.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
You get bombarded with so much shit, and.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
I mean you guys in particular, but all of it.
We grew up in a boundaryless world. We grew up
in a world where we didn't there was no we
didn't get to be like no, you know, it was
fan interaction and a lot, you know, from a young age.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yes, and so like you finally get to a point.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
In your life where you're like, I love my fans,
but I have to live in my skin, so I'm
going to have to need to take a break. And
I think if anything like hearing people that they've grown
up with talking about this and talking about like, yeah,
it's it's not even it's a lot for us sometimes too,
that humanity of it. Like I think people are starting
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to understand it a little more, like just the the
demand of growing up in a business where you don't
get to turn off.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Right a lot. Well, you can start to think like
I can't do that, like I can't put boundaries up,
I can't do they they deserve it, or like I
don't deserve to say right right right.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
So I could see that coming in, and yeah, you do.
When you start from a young age, you do get
brainwashed into thinking that that who you are, that's what
you have to do, right.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Yeah, I can understand.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
And you know, you have so many amazing loyal fans,
like you want to give back to them and you
want to do stuff. But it's yeah, it's like learning
how to find that balance. And I think it makes
it a lot more fun to come back as an
adult when you can find that balance. And I know,
for me, when I like, don't spend time on social media,
I'm almuch more creative. I'll be writing, I'll be like
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just so much more creative.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And I'm like Oh yeah. It kind of just sucks
all the brain power out of me, you know.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
But yeah, I'm not a big social media person anymore either.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I hate to interrupt this, but Jodie has a flight
to catch.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I have a flight.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, you're kicking her out and then you guys mylan.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
It this way I am and now I leave you alone.
I'm so glad I got to see you guys though.
It was wonderful to see you again. Spent since what
since Fuller.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that next. Okay, you
got this, you go. I'm gonna send you off on
a way y'all have fun.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I'm gonna seek.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Out here the Brothers podcast, Barber.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I got you guys all to myself now now that
Jokey's out of the way. So I am just so
excited about this, this conversation. Uh, let's go back to
when you guys appeared on Fuller House in season two.
What was it like when you got that phone call
and they were like, hey, let's have new kids on
the block on Fuller House. What were your first thoughts?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
I was like, I'm not an actor, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, okay, okay, So you're a little nervous mate.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Yeah, okay, I was nervous, but I was also excited
about doing the show.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
I never I was never on a sitcom set till.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Then first sitcom.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Yeah, live audience, it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It was so did you enjoy it? Okay?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It was funny for me because I watched the show. Okay, yes,
I watched the original, you know, and then when when
we were asked to be on, all of a sudden,
we were like super cool with our nieces in their fews.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Oh yes, it's so funny.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Yeah about our audience like expanding, like the demographic of
our audience.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Expanding, and just being on that show. It's like, you
guys have such a big audience, like.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Loyal fans just like you guys do ye.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Seriously, like neighbors of mine, like their kids, they were
like they are We were like we were famous now yeah,
Like it was.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Like, yeah, we know, we know who you are, We
know you guys. I think Danny was a little offended
because someone came up to him once and was like, oh,
you're a real band, and he's like, yeah, we're a
real band. Like this wasn't created for Fuller House. So yeah,
sorry sorry to Danny, but I'm glad that you guys
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you know, have street red with your neighbors andieces.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
Yeah, that was fun to do and definitely uh an
honor and uh definitely thank you. Thank you guys, I know,
because you guys got us on this.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
We did, but thank you, no, thank you. And I
have to say Jordan, I mean, you were both so
dynamic on the show. But Jordan, you were a really
good actor. Like I did not expect that from you
because you're you're a little shy in real life, and
so I was just like, oh, he's into this. You
and I were like doing bits. We're like, okay, I'm
gonna steal the microphone from you and then like we're
gonna have to tell over the microphone. And I'm like, oh,
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he's into this, like he is on you know. It
was it was so good. Would you consider acting in
the future?
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Would I consider acting? I've never maybe once or twice
I've considered it. And then I was like, I don't
want to be an actor. I can't remember lines. Oh
I'm no good. I remember Maybe I could. I didn't try.
Maybe I didn't try that.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No, No, you were you were word perfect as we.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Say it was word perfect because I had like little
one liners. Okay, I think.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
That's what I'm good at because like I don't have
to do this long you know, you don't have to
have But people have asked me about acting, and I've
never had the just the passion for it, uh to
really go out there.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
And if there was like a.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Like a role that really fit me and was easy
and just fell on my lap, I'd be like, okay,
but I don't have the motivation to go out there
and you know, pound the pavement and try to get
roles and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Is it different memorizing lyrics versus lines, because it seems
like the lyrics come so easily to you.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, I mean the lyrics, well I should talk because
I can remember lyrics. But you know, I think you know,
you go to chorography, you're in the studio, you sing
the song and then you sing it so many other times,
where you know, maybe acting it's they're different lines all
the time.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Yeah, it's all new words every scene.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
So yeah, it would.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
That would be tough.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
And the writers don't kind of do they let you
like veer off the script right, because they're like they're
they write the lines like specifically, like that's their line, Like.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's their words.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Yes, that's their words. I don't want you to mess
them up.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Every word has meaning to them and like so in
that sense, like you can't just go off the feeling
of what you should be saying.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
You have to hit all the words.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Yeah, it's tough, Like, I don't know how you guys
do it.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, there's the there was the line where I had
to memorize a social Security number as a joke, like hey,
Joey McIntyre, I know your social Security number. That that
five five five, But they couldn't use a real social
Security number, and so they kept changing the numbers on me,
and I had to memorize a new a new set
of numbers every time, and I'm.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Like every time, scroll going down every time.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
Use.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
That was hard. Remembering the numbers was hard. But now
I think that when you do something as a kid,
you're singers, I was, you know, I was an actor,
it just becomes like muscle memory, you know. It's like
you get back into it and you're just like, Okay,
I've been doing this my whole life. It's like riding
a bike. I know how to do it, you know,
how to do it, and so you're you're the reality
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TV guy. Now, Yes, you have very successful shows on
hg TV. I love Farmhouse, Fixer, Camp Revamp was incredible.
Oh my gosh, do you love reality TV? Do you
prefer scripted television? Would you ever do scripted television?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You know, well, when we say reality TV, like I
like my reality TV show, I wouldn't want to be
one of the Housewives of Boston or Below Deck or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Understood same same, But no.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I think you know we're kind of soft scripted. We
we we out have to make our points. What was
the question?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
The question the questions would you ever do a scripted show?
Did do you prefer reality your type of reality TV?
Or do you prefer like the full house experience that you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Say you have to go you have to use the
dialogue that's given you to you. No, I like I
like it the other way where that's just kind of
go and say what I want to say. But I mean,
I I it's funny enough. I have thought recently that
I wouldn't mind doing like a holiday like like like.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
The Christmas movie. Yeah you should. You could be the
strapping the strapping lad on a farm somewhere. Oh yeah,
JORDI come on.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Like I like a Hallmark movie.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That's okay, it's not. You don't have only you only
do like four to six pages a day, so it's
not as much dialogue we could do. We could totally
do this, you guys. Let's do Okay, let's everybody, let's
do it. Let's set it up. We'll do Yeah, we
can all do it together.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You could be like, I'll be.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
The lost Yeah, I'll be the lost woman that is
mourning her her first love and has lost her way
and needs to find her way back to her strapping
young man and believe we'll leave.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Again and tie it in with like like like the
new kids. When you were young, you know, you were,
we were your prince Charming and you know, and now
we're back together like all out. We were in our
separate ways and and now here we are.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
It's pitch perfect.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay. You guys have been such a refuge for so
many people, like as young, hormonal teenage girls that were
struggling with whatever body image or family troubles. You know,
you were our happy place. Yeah, and then when you
guys came back and restarted the band again, we all
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grew up and but it was different, so you became
that refuge again. Like I went through a painful divorce
and depression and anxiety and you guys got me through that,
Like you were my refuge. And I'm not alone when
I say that that that is the that is Blockheads.
You know you are you are that for us, and
it's just it's such a wonderful escape from any problems
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that you're going through.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
It's what is that like?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Being that? And is there anyone like that for you?
Do you have a refuge? What's it is that pressure
to be a refuge for other people?
Speaker 7 (30:42):
No, No, it's not, it's not pressure.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
We do hear that a lot, and like I understand it,
like everyone has their happy.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Place, you know, we do hear that a lot, and.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
It's it brings like a lot of meaning to what
we do. You know, don't feel pressure, like I think,
as long as we try to just be as real
as we can and be genuine and uh just have
fun like we do.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Uh yeah, stay close.
Speaker 9 (31:21):
I mean that'll that'll that'll keep coming out and people
will keep getting that feeling from us, that good feeling.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Well, that's just the beauty of what we do too,
is to bring joy to people. And you know, I
love that, you know, I think both my careers are
like that. If are renovating a family's house and they're
walk in and they're happy, and you know they love it,
and you know, walk out on stage and you see,
you know, people just smiling and happy. You know, I
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really think happiness is what keeps me going in both
of my my businesses.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
And it really the fans say that to us, but
like it's also true, like being on the road is
a grind, you know, it's tough.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
Madousness is tough. And then do you know, there's a
lot of pressure and everything else. And when we go
on stage we get that reception from the fans, it
makes us feel good, you know what I mean, Like
we feel great going out there doing it.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
We feel like kids. You know, a lot of fans
are like, you know, I felt like I was twelve again.
That's how we feel.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
We feel when we go on stage, we feel like
we're fourteen, fifteen years old, like just having fun and
goofing around with each other, you know, and it brings
us back too.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Something about the eighties and nineties that urge for nostalgia.
It's very soothing and people want people want these pre
social media days. They want the connection the Yeah, just
when it was real, we had cassette tapes, you know,
like that was that was that was my jam. So yeah,
like Pagold Page, I can relate to that because fans
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tell me a lot that Full House was the family
that they wished they had, or Bob Saggett was the
dad that they wished they had, And so yeah, there's
something very healing about getting to relive your childhood and
feel like kids again. But it's it's like healing our
inner trauma.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It's much bigger than just entertainment. You know, it's it's
very meaningful. I agree with you guys with that. You
just finished the Magic Summer Tour, which was amazing. I
caught three shows in southern California. It's a hot tour
outdoors a lot like kudos to you guys for wearing
pants and jackets in that.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You have a lot of new.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Like new younger fans. We call them baby blockheads. Where
have they been? Like, I'm like what people are asking
questions just you know, just like did you know that
John is gay? And I'm like, where have you been, Like,
come on, take a seat, take a seat and do
some debriefing.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, they're still in training.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, they have to earn their wings before they can
graduate to like a regular blockhead.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I think it's it's great. You know that our fan
base has expanded. You know, the baby blockheads they were,
they were in diapers when we first yeah, you know,
you know, they probably were hearing new kids music in
the background from you know, mom, And now they've grown
up and they're kind of like, you know, wait a minute, mom,
(34:26):
I want to go see you know what this is
all about. So it's been it's been really cool, like,
you know, seeing our demographics change. It's it's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's job security too, right, just birthing new generations of
blockheads and yeah, we'll bring our kids and then they'll
bring their kids to concerts. So you guys have you
have a lot of work ahead of you. I hope
that's you rest taking nap.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
It's been amazing to see the change in in the crowd.
Like I was saying earlier, like when we first reunited,
it seemed like it was girls night out, like get
your girlfriends going to the New Kids Show. And I
think now everybody's even more grown up now, like everybody
has families and it's like, I'm not calling my girlfriend,
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I'm gonna bring my kids that have been listening to
the music all along, and they're like they're into it now.
And even there's even older folks that are coming to
this show. Yeah, people are bringing their parents. Yeah, And
it's so it's.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Kind of like.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
We've we've went from like a girl's night out event
to kind of like a family show, a family event.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
So it's it's wild over the years to see the change.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's awesome. So you guys go out into the audience
during the song tonight, is it a little scary?
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What is that? You're very brave to do that. So
I feel like the fans were a little bit more
like excited this year or a little more aggressive with
that selfies or you know, wanting to touch you guys,
Like what's I don't that was a heat stroke. I
don't know how it was going on with the Magic
Summer Tour, but yeah, what is that like? Is that
is it nerve wracking?
Speaker 9 (36:07):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
You feed off the excitement?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
No? I mean I love it. So people can get
a little aggressive at terms. But you know, I think
I think it's just it's just a way to be
involved in. I don't know where I'm going with this,
you know. I personally I like when like we walk
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out and there's somebody that's in the you know, the
back row, they get to be that much closer to you.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, I love.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
So I love that that aspect.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, it's cool. It's great. The fans love it. It's
they're always like angling, like I want the aisle seats
so I can get next to Jordan. It's it's pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
No, I think it's just another way to connect with
the crowd and show that we care about everybody.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Not just the people in the front.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
And uh, it's funny.
Speaker 9 (37:04):
It's weird that like certain areas, certain crowds are more
aggressive than others. Really, yeah, like certain parts of the country,
Like it's so weird.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Like I know in Jersey, like it was it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Was aggressive, Oh wow, those Jersey people. There's like, yeah,
your mind.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
In New Hampshire and it was like how you doing
not grabbing and not doing it.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
It's just so it's so wild to see the difference
in the country.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
But Yeah, it's it's just it's just a way to
show that we you know, we care about everybody. We
want to touch everybody.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, the fans, the fans love it. It's it's great.
It's a great thing to witness, even if I'm not
on the aisle seat. It's great just to see you guys,
to see you guys up there. If you could retire
any one song from the set list forever, what would
it be. That's a hard one to be honest, be honest.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Uh hmmm, Tonight the one that was.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
In the crowd.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Take note, Jordan's Jared, take note.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
What it is about? The song is just goes the
same thing?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, and then it keeps going and Donnie KEI
it's just one more time and so like you guys
can get back.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
To the stage.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah you got it. There's a lot of a lot
of dead time you gotta fill there. So okay, okay,
so tonight got it?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Maybe tonight maybe I would.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Say, would you do you want my opinion? And no
offense to like any any of you guys, But yeah,
I think cover Girl has been sung enough. Really, Yeah,
I think we're okay, just speaking from the Block. Oh wait, seriously,
cover girl, did I did I fit?
Speaker 7 (39:00):
You know you do, You're just surprised.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
You're surprised.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Okay, And I would love if I can make a request.
I would love if you could sing one song from
the Block that is one of my favorite songs of yours.
So that's a request.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
These songs kind of come in and out, So one song.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, And I mean it's great. Now we're here in Vegas,
got the Residency coming up, so we'll you know, be
looking for a whole new set list. Yeah, well we
will take up take notes.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Okay, we're going to take take a pole from the fans.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
What can we expect from the residency that we haven't
seen before on your previous tours.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
You know, the theater is so huge. It is like
one of the biggest stages I've seen as a big
old So we have all that space where you know,
we have stuff planned out now, but it will tweak
it as we do. You know, I don't think there's
any surprises we should sharing.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Definitely keep it close to the best.
Speaker 9 (40:03):
Definitely some things that the fans have never seen before,
just because I mean, we try to do that every tour.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
But like production wise, like we're parked.
Speaker 9 (40:14):
In one theater and we can like really do special
things because when we're on the road, we have to
like put the stage together.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
In the morning, take it down, and then move it
to the next city.
Speaker 9 (40:29):
So now we can like really build something and just
leave it be so we can make we could do
more intricate.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
Things and do cooler things.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, that's exciting. Yeah, and you can sleep in real bed,
real shower a tour. But you got to share a
tour bus, right.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
Yeah, you know to gets the back room. I get
the little bunk.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Okay, okay, a little bit. I like the little bunk,
like a little I do.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
It doesn't like when you're in the back and you're
on a bus and you're going over bumps, you're like
bouncing up and down like this in the bank of
the bus, and I don't know, the bank of the
bus bounces more.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Oh, okay, when you're kind of a night oul, so
maybe that doesn't bother you as much.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Does like I'm actually sleeping in a bed during the residency.
Residency is probably like the number one thing for me
right now. You know, every time we tour, I can't
sleep on the bus, and then even when talks and
you fall asleep, you still feel like you're doing this.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Like it's like, yeah, just like walking off a boat.
Speaker 9 (41:33):
Yeah, like the New Kids cruise, like the cruising as
you walk off.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
And you're still still swaying.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I know the blockheads want me to ask if is
a cruise coming up, but I'm not going to ask
because like you got but you got exciting things coming
up with this residency. Yeah, and I know what you
always say to that question. So yeah, we're gonna we're
gonna ask that question and just focus on the residence.
I have amount of time, amount of time, but I
just want to say from my heart, like just thanks
for being you, Like you are outstanding performer, but it's
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your heart. It's your heart that I love and you
are like you're my heroes, but you are also just
good people that you are so good and you are
so good to your fans, like you you know them
by name, like you can recognize them in the audience
and just connect. You know, you've been so kind to
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our mutual friend who went through cancer ten years ago,
and just like I just love you guys for that.
There's so much that happens behind the scenes that Blockhead
don't even know about. You're just you're so generous with
your time and your love and that doesn't go unnoticed.
So thank you for thank you for being on this
podcast first of all, but just thanks for being awesome people.
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I love you guys. I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
All right, hiks, can we get these HIGs on tape?
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yeah, let's like get this on tape.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Well.
Speaker 8 (42:53):
I just want to say thank you so much to NKOTB,
to Jonathan and Jordan Night for coming on the podcast today.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Is absolutely amazing, and thank.
Speaker 8 (43:01):
You Hyundai for bringing us to Las Vegas for this
amazing interview for the iHeart Music Festival.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I have to say I.
Speaker 8 (43:09):
Have seen I have seen ab excited, but this, I
mean this was you really boosted my energy. I have
to say, I think you almost boosted enough energy you
could probably power the ionic Oh.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I think I could.
Speaker 8 (43:20):
I think you really could. So get out there and
we're charging the car. But thank you guys so much
for listening. We had so much fun with this episode.
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Speaker 5 (43:43):
They come out. And remember you guys.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
The world is small, but the NKOTB blockhead audience is huge.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Oh no, that was terrible.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
The world is small, but AB's heart is full. K see.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
The world is small, I feel small, but Aby's heart
is huge.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Thanks Jody, I love you.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
I love you too,