August 6, 2025 • 35 mins
Finally… a freshie! We’re done with bestie episodes for the summer and are excited to sit down and fill everyone in on what we’ve been up to for the past six weeks. We recount how lucky and blessed we are to be able to take a break from our 9-5, share some of our favorite ways we saved money while traveling (somehow in our first episode back we managed to discuss Aldi and Costco for those playing HTM bingo at home), and we only begin to touch on some of the lessons and takeaways from our time off. Active volcanoes, beef tongue, regenerative braking, EVs, lunchables, and padcrashing all make an appearance!
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
I mean, I'm probably with us even to start starting
to talk. Now, let's do it. Then, I didn't even
change out of my names, mean neither. We're both.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I wouldn't say sopping wet because the walk back from
the beach definitely dried us off a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
But we're gonna start like this, Yeah, all right, welcome
to how to Money? I get to say it this time, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
And we're back, we're back from sabbatical.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
What's what's funny is I don't I don't even know
how to do it because you're the one who always says,
welcome to how the money? You know, and I only say,
and I am.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That it's easier than you might imagine. It's actually not
the toughest part of my job. You're incredibly talented, my friend.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Uh No, this is an episode where we wanted to
just ease listeners back into It's.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Not like worries and back into it. It's honestly us. Yes,
it's it's weirder for you.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And me to sit down because we haven't hoarded in
six seven weeks or something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I was like, Matt, remind me how to talk into
a microphone again.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It is a little bit different though, because we are
at a beach house that our families so have rented.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We do this every summer. And what's crazy is that
in the I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The kids are older, they're out at the beach, and
I mean Kate's out there with them, but they're.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Kind of autonomous more and more. Granted, the little.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Dudes are still young.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
They need less help than they.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We are entering a new phase of game playing and
we're like way past the phase of digging typools for
the baby's kind of thing as opposed to like hitting
the volleyball, playing some spike ball, swimming across the what's
it the inlet, Yes, that's your favorite thing that you
like to do.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I was gonna say, I think our kids are staying
up later than we are now, which is like for
this is the first year ever where we've crossed that
threshold and so like adult gameplay, that's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's been most noticeable in the fact that we have
not played one game of a choir. Yeah, which it's
funny because we're sitting at the quote unquote game table
and there's a game of Clue here that the kids
left out because that's what they're playing, they're getting into
the board games on their own. But how you been?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I've been great.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I mean, does it feel weird for you to get
back on the mic a little bit?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
A little bit because it does feel like it's been
a while. And I'm sure to our own answer, like
we've heard you talking, but not fresh stuff, and so
what have you been up to? And I feel like
there is probably a lot for us to relay and
as we've come back from our sabbaticals, our trips, and
we'll share I think a lot here, but we'll also
share more in the months to come about where we will.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We'll have a lot of stories to regale. We're still probably.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Know I'm still processing having taken a break more of
a break, a summer break, honestly, like more in line
with the kids.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But how you there's actually a Facebook argument about sabbatical
many retirement, the words that you use, Oh yeah, what
can you call it? And so I totally would have
been interested in in that argument because and I mentioned
this at some point on one of the episodes, because
Katie North and whoever else they're talking about sabbaticals typically
being at least, you know, three months or plus like
(02:51):
three to nine is at least at least a many retirement, right,
So people were saying, if you're going to call it
a many retirement, needs to be kind of longer like that.
Sabbatical Sure, six eight weeks. Fine, So I guess that's
probably what you and I really par took in. Was
a sabbatical, not I call it a summer break.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Was a summer break.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Man. You want to share a little bit about your trip,
because y'all took some of your time, and so that's
the most recent thing, the most recent thing. Right before this,
y'all came back from your trip. We came back for
our trip. Maybe we'll share a little bit. Let's do
that or adventures.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And then maybe we'll get into kind of some bigger,
deeper stuff that we've we've kind of been thinking about.
But yeah, what's the most fun thing you did in
the past two weeks? So I just want to say this.
At the outset, we the first part of our sabbatical,
we stayed home. It was staycation, yeah, and the second
part was travels. And I was shocked at how much
I enjoyed the staycation.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I was like, Oh, the travel is.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Gonna be the best part, and the travel is awesome.
Thoroughly enjoyed it. But I really really enjoyed just kind
of rhythms.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
At home, living in your own house, in your own town,
doing the cool like stuff that you get to now
participate in because you're not yeah, completely slammed booked.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, so it was just like, oh, three pm, let's
go to the pools of family whatever it is. Yeah,
that kind of stuff. So I really enjoyed that. But yeah,
in regards to the trip, it was awesome. We were
in Seattle for my cousin's wife, and I was reminded
of how Seattle is one of the great cities, not
just in the US but.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
In the world. It is.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's a beautiful one.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's a beautiful town and chock full of craft beer
of course too, which which makes me love it even more.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, so do you have what was the best brewery
that you went to when you were out in Seattle?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So did you do well?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
You were only there for a couple of days, only
there for a couple of days, pick them up at
the grocery store. But it didn't even make it even
though I was in Ballard, which like you can't even
turn around and not see a brewery your smack dab
in the midst It's insane.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Is that what the kids used to call the hipster
part of town pretty much twenty years ago?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, And so like I think, Ballard had all these
old warehouses, and so breweries just moved in and so
I ran. I ran past at least like six of them,
but didn't actually step foot in any of them. But
I had a couple of good beers while I was there.
But actually the best beers I had well when we
went to Hawaii, which was our next stop on it.
And one travel tip to save money, go travel someplace
(04:53):
where one of your friends lives so you can stay
with them.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Ooh yeah, so hey, you don't mind if we crashed.
So this is this is the it's not horseshoe theory.
This is full circle for you. You went from crawd
uh pad crashing to hostels to airbnb's, and now you
took your family back to pad crash. Right.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So, Emily's best friend lives just outside of Honolulu, and
we stayed with them for four nights and we hit
up a brewery. I'm blanking on the name. It's right
there in downtown Honolulu. We had that beer just last night,
the oh Han Mari or something like that. Yeah, gosh,
they made some excellent beers that those were definitely the
best beers.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I had on the whole train.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Nice and just Hawaii so wonderful. Of course.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So I was up in the northeast, which is home
to all the hazy New England I pas, of course,
so I got some PARTI I mean, oh my gosh, dude.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I had your sending me picks.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was all the greats of course, Trillium, of course,
Bistol Brothers two. Okay, so two standouts that I was
not expecting that we literally stumbled upon were Hudson Valley Brewing,
which was in Beacon, New York. That's in the Hudson Valley.
Of course, phenomenal, so good them, as well as Bellflower,
which was I think it's a newer brewery in Portland, Maine. Okay,
(06:06):
both of the of course, we had some Maine Beer
Company beers while we're up in Maine up in Acadia.
But those other two breweries though, were total standouts.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Portland's one of those hip towns too, where they've got
a plethora of good beer up there.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
In the same part of town. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That was huge for us for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm curious for you and we can get into a
bunch of different stuff here, But what was maybe your
did you have like a favorite part of your trip,
like the best favorite.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Leg is your best day?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh see, you're putting all this pressure on one singular day.
I don't think I can narrow it down to a
specific day because I feel like we took our I
don't know, we did a whole lot in two weeks. Yeah,
it was a road trip, which let me just share
with folks too that man, and we knew this going
into it. But a road trip is not a vacation.
(06:56):
A road trip is an adventure and every waking moment
and I feel like, was Kate and I talking about
our next steps. We had plans, we had itineries, we
had tickets booked, but then it's us saying, oh man,
we really went hard yesterday though, like are we actually
going to do everything we had planned? And kind of
making decisions on the fly, trying to figure out where
are the bathrooms, where.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Can we refill their water bottles.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's just constant, You're just constantly on edge, which means
don't come back. No.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No, it was a ton of fun, but just a
lot of on the go.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So I'm not going to pinpoint it to a specific day,
but I feel like a theme, I'll say a theme
something that we just consistently did with the kids was
that they were regularly trying new foods and being exposed
to different things.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So, whether it's like.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Lobster what do you call the lobster rolls, whether it's
that that we stumbled upon that we learned about this
beach a few let's see, maybe at the beginning of
summer York Maine, so we just were like, oh, maybe
we'll swing swing by up there, and we ended up
spending way more time up there, stumbled upon the awesome
crab shack. I think it was Foxes actually, okay, beautiful
(08:04):
lighthouse right there.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was just I don't know this.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It was amazing. Kids all tried lobster for the first time, Yes, oysters.
That was in Boston where we're like, all right, all
y'all are gonna try raw oysters, and just doing some
of those experiences with the kids. Aside from I think
a lot of folks would think, oh was it seen
the Declaration of Independence. Yes, that was awesome. So was
seeing George Washington's copy in the what was that I
(08:28):
guess that was the Library of Congress.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So you were singing the praises about Abraham Lincoln's pocket knife.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We oh, we got to see well, yeah, the contents
in his pocket. That's also there in the in the library,
the Congressional lib what's it called, the Congresstional libraries, especially
attached to.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The Capitol building. That was super cool.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That was really cool for me personally, going, oh, we
got tickets you reach Oh hey, so here's a tip
for folks. Reach out to your local representative, local senator
in your state, and you get tickets to a lot
of places in DC for free. You just have to
get on the radar. So obviously the Sithsonian and all
those different places they're free. But the ability to go
(09:05):
tour the capital, you know, like not as a rioter,
like where you're walking through, I mean, when.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
You're actually allowed to be there. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's it's all inspiring because it's I think it's like
the closest thing I think we have in the US too,
like a cathedral, like a Gothic can get mean it's massive,
it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Did your congress person asked if you voted for them before?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
They said yes, no, you know, it's just one of
their one of their interns that they were just like,
oh yeah, we actually have a few passes that we
can give you. That's cool. So that was a ton
of fun that specific day there. DC also just a
cheap place to visit. Oh yeah, a plethora of awesome
stuff for very little money. Also in DC, we went
to Kate's just amazing when it comes to food and
planning trips out. We went to jose Gosh what's his
(09:47):
last name?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
We talked and Andrece.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yes, he's got this taco place in DC that's like
right between it's like right off the mall. Had an
awesome time there with the kids. It was just it
was fun because it was slightly more refined food that
Kate and I could both enjoy, but the kids were
digging it as well. They tried beef tongue there for
their first time, so they're like, what's is that an
actual tongue of a cow.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
We're like, yeah, and it's really good.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
They know what they're doing here. Uh. Some of those
culinary experiences really stand out, but obviously just being able
to learn a whole lot about our country because it
was kind of a quasi US history sort of road trip, which.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Is taking them up, taking them to World Schooling during the.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Summer, and taking them up to Acadia, which is the
place that Kate and I have been to before, having
prosecco and popovers at Jordan Pond like that, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But yeah, it was. It was a great trip for us.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But like you, so I wanted to lude back to
what you were saying as far as living kind of
like quasi normal life at home and having just more
time in your hands.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm totally with you, man, It's great. It's so nice
to be able to have downtime.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And for us Kate and I, I mean, we love
working on projects at home, and so I spent a
lot of that time, like doing stuff around the house
that I normally don't.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Have time to do. Or you were in the yard
a ton too.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I was in the yard a ton. Well you know,
you know the problem is that Kate ordered a chip drop,
which is free, and you know this because you were
actually you you pitched in a little bit. You're like, hey,
I'll shovel af you not more than a few shoveled
several wheelbarrows full of moulsh and hauled them to far
corners of our of our Backyardeah. Yeah, just doing stuff
(11:19):
like that, being able to hang with the kids at home,
that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
The one thing I didn't get checked off my to
do list was to clean out our garage.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well, I was on your list. It's still on my list.
I'll get to it at some point.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Your garage isn't really messy, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Not too bad, but like, I really want to organize
my tools and stuff, and I just look at you. Yeah,
getting tired of not being able to find stuff when
I need it. So I say the cool I think
maybe if I was to pick one of the coolest things.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Oh yeah, what it was.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We went to.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Volcanoes National Park and there are episodic eruptions right now,
you got to talk about that volcano there, and so
it's uh, we actually got to see a live lava flow.
It's literally lava erupting into the sky and it was crazy.
It was one of those things where we kind of
got in earlier than we thought. The airbnb we're going
to stay out wasn't ready and see, let's just National
Parks two miles up the road.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Let's go blessing in disguise.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It was totally was because we got to see it
and it cut off before dark that night, so we
got to see it for a couple hours from different angles.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Literally not even interrupt the rest of the time you're there.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And the rest of the shutout.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, So it was serendipitous and it's one of those
cool things that none of us will ever forget.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well, that's the thing. You can't necessarily plan on that.
Like you can plan a trip to Hawaii, but you
can't plan on there being a lava flow because that's
up to mother nature. Man. Yeah, and okay, so the
time that we're recording this, there was also like more
action going down there in Hawaii or I.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Guess it was the Warner tsunami warning. Yeah, like it
seems like why I avoided the worst there for sure,
and and everybody else to it sounds like minimal impact anywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But that still would have been crazy, like a tsunami siren.
It's got the alliteration. So I know you love it,
but you probably would have been a little frightening there
with the kids. Yeah right, oh, my kids will have.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Been freaking out.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
The biggest money saving tip on what you got the island,
either the Big Island or Owahu, but especially the Big
Island is have a costcome membership. Really yeah, so not
only just to breeze and get a hot dog if
you're hungry or whatever, which you can do for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know. Still our family still has not had a Costco. H.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I'm trying not to judge you for that. So breeze
in there and get that. But the biggest thing is
everything on Hawaii is significantly more expensive. Sure, so you
want to drop in and get a beer, a single
beer X you think, maybe not two X, but it's
definitely more expensive. And Costco keeps their prices the same
on the island of Hawaii as they do on the mainland.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I bet it's so popular there.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So like my cold brew the two pac same prices
when I get it, the Stoke Stoke cold Brew, same
exact price, same with like loaves of bread or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Impressive.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
They have certain other things that they sell only in Hawaii,
which is cool, so you can get some local stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Local flavor. Yeah, but I really appreciate that, and so.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I was like, thank god, I don't have to drink
some local like Hawaiian coffee.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I can get my stoke cold brew.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
We were trying to do, especially in on the Big Island,
we were trying to do more of our eating at home,
and so we're.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Like, let's that's played some groceries.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
We landed, went straight to Costco and got a bunch
of stuff so we could cook meals.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
All right, okay, so our I'll share a travel money
saving tip. So this is so predictable people are gonna say.
Of course, Joel talked about Costco and Matt talked about Aldie.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Because look, get this, guess we're not sponsored by them,
so sadly we.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Just love it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
We were just out on the beach, so literally, you
don't have a shirt on. My trunks are soaking wet.
We just jumped back in here to record a little bit.
Just before we came in, we looked over and there's
a couple and he had an Aldie bag. Looked like
they had all the beach chairs and maybe it seemed
like one of them had an Aldie bathing suit.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Does that even exist? It was all like the Aldie Rainbow.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I wonder if they worked for Aldi Corporate or something.
We need to go ask them when they go back Aldie.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Schwag, Yeah, what was Oh so mine is Aldi related?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I was gonna say, guess how many times we ate
because we'd love eating at Chick fil A?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Like, if we're going to drive to the beach, that's
probably going to be our stop for lunch, right, like
we're gonna put our order in.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Guess so many times we ate Chick fil A on
the road trip?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Twice?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Zero, baby, oh zero.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And it wasn't even something that we were trying to do.
I wasn't like this is going to be great fodder
for the show. It literally didn't cross our minds because
we had planned on and we did this earlier in
the summer. We went up to Michigan Lake Michigan for
some time with family, but we stopped at Aldi on
the way back and not only bought groceries that we
knew that we needed for back home, like eggs and milk, right,
(15:21):
like just some basics, but we said, wait a minute,
let's just stop in there and we'll get food for
dinner as well, and put together kind of a meal
on the road, and we're so much more food, better
quality stuff than fast food, you know then stuff that's
that's deep fried, and you're saving just a ton of money. Yeah,
I mean our typical Chick fil a order, there's six
of us. Our typical order is like fifty bucks. Yeah,
(15:42):
and that's just for fast food, and it's not well rounded.
There's not whole, not granted, there's protein, right, And so
we took that mindset, and so for the road trip,
Kate brought a big baking tray to be able to
load up these little lunch boxes, like these little they're plastic.
They look like tupperware their subdivide lunchibles, yeah basically, but
like homemade lunchables. Yeah, and I filled with all the
(16:05):
worst things that So we would stop at ald and
get a block of cheese.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
We would get gosh, what else would we do?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Nuts, cured meats, like vegetables, chopped like clean uh. We
got bottled water right, like kind of clean off like cucumbers,
slice that up. And so we did that a ton
on the road and say, I know, we saved a
ton of money. We're we're eating so much better, so
much less expensive, I know, than Chick fil a. Again,
I don't even know, because Kate's the one that calls ahead,
(16:33):
you know, she uses the app and places with the
Chick fil A order. But it's at least I'm certain
it's at least fifty bucks, if not more.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I'm sure a pop. Yeah, that's not We did that
a ton and for us.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That was in addition to Oh, one of the AMA
questions I think was about, hey, are you gonna rent
a car or are you going to take the old man?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Let's let's talk about your car rental. Yep, let's do
it right after this. All right, we're back, Matt. We
left off you were a car rental talk about your
car rental. I dropped you off at the car rental place. Yeah,
and it turns out, Oh, it was a nightmare. You
did not end up running your car there.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean, I don't even though you had one booked.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't know if I want to throw the company
under the bus, because maybe they're decent, but this particular location,
they took my car rental reservation, but they couldn't hold it.
As Jerry Seinfeld would would say, right, is that how
it goes?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It's one of the classic episodes.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, and so they're like, well, we can offer you
a nicer vehicle, this grand It was a Grand Highlander,
I will say, and it looked nice. I was even
tempted because I thought, I'm never going to have the
opportunity to drive over long distance in a leather It
was just really nice. But I was like, no, there's
no luggage space, the ability to move around in the vehicle.
So anyway, we ended up going with a van, a
(17:53):
Chrysler pacifica rental with Avis. It was great, and specifically
we got a hybrid, which was also very nice. To
talk about some savings.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Driving that many miles, yeah, I will.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Say, though I did some quick math, we save some money,
but it wasn't a tremendous amount. I don't think we
saved much more than too much.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Do you think you saved on that?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I think we said around two hundred bucks tw hundred
bucks and gas, which isn't nothing. Yeah, but you know
you're you're dropping like around one thousand bucks on a rental,
Like I wouldn't go out of my way to go
to get extra, to pay extra in order to get
a hybrid. When it's like, all right, if we were
driving our vehicle, maybe I'm getting like twenty miles per
gallon in an old traditional you know, mini van as
(18:32):
opposed to something closer to thirty in a hybrid, because
the hybrid doesn't work so well when you're driving higher
speeds on the interestate, it's great for driving around town
because when you're driving around town, that's when the that's true,
that's when the little low power motor kind of thing
kicks on and you're getting like thirty five miles thirty
five to thirty seven miles per gallon.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
But it was nice.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I loved watching that little power meter thing there on
the I would I think I would get addicted to that.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But if I had a hybrid, I would always be like, dude,
I want to get the leave.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I want to be in the green.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I want to constantly be regenerative, breaking like you're hyper
miling it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yes, I will say, getting back into traditional vehicle like
standard disc brakes seem so antiquated. Yeah, I'm like, why
not use this stored energy that is in the mass
of our vehicle trying to slow down to generate power.
Sure doesn't that seem like a no brainer?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It does.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I feel like all cars should be equipped with regenitative braking.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I rented one of those new Jeeps on hawaii'se Jeps
are the way to get around.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Come on, if you're in Hawaii, yeah, you should be
driving a jeep around.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And so it's got a little like a little battery
in there that they I guess you can drive it
in just electric mode or in hybrid mode, but it's
like kind of pathetic, Like the battery is so tiny.
It's it lasts like about two minutes.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
In electric road was literally in two minutes.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's it's not long at all. It's it's yeah, probably
close to that, and then hybrid mode it maybe lasts
like thirty five to forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So okay, it's kind of pathetic.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But if you had it at home, though, do you
think it would be enough for you to run an erran.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Let's say you're going to the grocery store back. Maybe
it's not that kind of like what it's geared for.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I think so, But I don't think it's even as
robust as like the the plug in hybrids that Toyota offers,
for instance, like the rap those be more like forty
miles worth.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
That's the difference between jeeps and toyotas man toyota like
they've been perfecting the hybrid, yeah, for and now they
prime right, like the plug in evs or whatever, the
plug in hybrids. They've been perfecting that for twenty plus
years now. As opposed to some of these newer guys
that were like, oh, yeah, maybe we'll take advantage of
the EV taxings, you know, all the incentives that are
getting poured into green vehicles.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
My question for you, yeah, how much did you miss
talking about personal finance? And did you find yourself maybe
talking about roth iras as you were going.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
To sleep, just just.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
A nobody, just to yourself, just a random guy waiting
in line on this methoda calling your.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Random friends to give them finance tips or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, I never feel myself tempted tempted to do that.
I will say, though, I'm trying to unpack as to
because we were trying to treat this as this abbatical,
not just as a time to take some bigger trips,
but within that and.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You say that, what do you mean, what's the difference, Well.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Well, having more time to take trips is fun, right,
as opposed to like, all right, going on a three
day silent retreat where you're just really getting a lot
more introspective. I don't know. Maybe I was just too
ambitious with the time to be able to do absolutely nothing,
because even the time where I was supposed to do
absolutely nothing at home, I'm like, oh, I could use
the time to put a laundry room sync in our
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laundry room, which is something I did, and it was
a ton of fun. It was a little frustrating at times,
almost electricated to myself. Maybe I'll say that for say
that start for some other time. But claud you're still here.
I'm still here. I didn't. Yeah, it's all good. It
was a two twenty line too. It was too the dryer,
so it was like higher voltage. I think it could
have been bad. But I can safely say that I
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definitely miss recording. I missed doing what it is that
you and I get to do here. It's and obviously
it's a blessing to be able to a be our
own bosses, but then be within that framework to have
the ability to step away from our work for the
summer and say, all right, let's spend some time, you know,
for you like training a little bit more, maybe going
for more runs, spending more time with friends, spending time
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with family, just chilling out, reading more. Yeah, the ability
to take some of these bigger trips that you otherwise wouldn't, right,
like as opposed to going out to Seattle and just
kind of flying back real quick.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You're like, hey, we're already out.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Here on the West coast, baby, let's let's fly it
down to Hawaii. The ability and the blessing, it is
a blessing for I think our ability to do something
like that same thing with taking a two week long
road trip and to not feel confbited up right to
the very start of it and the very end of it, right,
to be able to say, all right, we can kind
of think about this well, prepare for it, and then
when you come home, it's like you can also, all right,
(22:38):
let's take some time to kind of reacclimate to home life,
and like, all right, let's just sleep in tomorrow, just
all the kind of you'll come back on a Sunday
and get back to real life on a Monday, exactly.
And that's hard and so man that I certainly most
definitely appreciate and within that sort of within thinking about that,
certainly missed being able to talk into the microphone with
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you about the things that we love care about and
the ability to bring money saving information and money investing
information and all the things that we love to talk
about here on the podcast to our listeners.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, yeah, what about you. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was like, I thought I was going to have
like withdrawal symptoms or something like that, shake something away,
like three weeks not talking me into a microphone about
personal finance with my buddy.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
The going's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
The good news is that, babe, we're on vacation. The
bad news is I started smoking.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I had had to find a habit to take over
my other habit, which is my day job. But no, like,
I'm actually super stoked about getting back into a rhythm
of kids in school, going into work and recording and
talking about personal I do love it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I was.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I will say I was still reading a similar amount
to maybe what I read on a daily basis, just
because I'm it's a passive subject. I'm not just passionate,
you know, I don't just get paid to do. I'm
also passionate about it. Yeah, but I just I feel
like I was able to get away to such an
extent that I wasn't missing it. I was like I
was glad to be away, but also the looking forward
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to being back when the time came.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I get that, which I shit, that felt great.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I definitely wasn't reading as Oh, I'll be honest, I
wasn't not reading as much. I was reading as much
total perhaps or maybe more. I'm still in the I'm
in the middle of The Brother's Cameras Off, which is
a really long It's a freaking yeah it is. It's
like over a thousand pages, and so I'm like, I
feel like I've been reading this for a month. Uh,
and I'm maybe halfway through. Wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Wasn't it Laura Vandercamp that told us she read war
in Peace or in Piece daily Emails?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I think that's even longer. Actually, that's crazy, which.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Which, by the way, what are you reading? Are you
in the middle of anything?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I'm reading Rick Rubin's book on creativity Nice, which is
super super interesting and it makes me Last year you yeah,
and you and I have actually been talking about do
we love what we do? But like, hey, can we
come back to this podcast with fresh eyes with it
with a different approach? And I think we will, like
I think we will continue. I think in a fresh passion.
(24:54):
Even I'm like, yeah, actually super stoked to get away
from it, and I'll come back to it and be like,
all right, what can we do to improve this thing
that we love that it's been around for seven plus years.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
It's fun to take breaks, yeah, I mean, I think
that's part of it too. It's I mean, it's fun
from the sense of like you get to do fun
things while you're taking time off. But it's also fun
to kind of look at it with fresh eyes, being
able to take a break from it and being like, oh,
wait a minute, no this And I think that's kind
of where I guess where I'm at right now as
I think about it, I'm just like, this is awesome,
like what we get to do on.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
A on a you know, day in and day out,
and even if you're thankful and you know you love it,
sometimes when you're in the weeds of day to day
stuff and then it's harder to see totally.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Can it can be tougher to be appreciative, I will say,
taking more time to appreciate other things in life. Does
I still obviously, I still want to be able to
do what we do. It does also make me want
to make sure I'm setting aside enough time to do
other things that I have been able to expose myself to,
like art, for instance. Like I was like talking with
(25:53):
Kate about this, I'm like, you.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Know, entering into your George Bush era.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I see, but I mean maybe, but like literally like
we spent way more time in galleries and appreciating art
and learning about artists like gosh, the Farnsworth Art Museum
has this incredible Andrew Wyath collection and somewhat familiar with
him before, but really like diving into I'm like, I
recently started a book that was this six day interview
(26:18):
of him. This was actually a book that's that was
in Kate's family that an uncle gave her Kate's grandmother,
and she was just like, well, don't take this one
out to the beach. She's like, make sure this one
kind of was like a family not a family heirloom,
but it means something more but art, right, So the
ability to I don't know, carve more and I don't
know what exactly that looks like, but does it look
(26:40):
like more of an appreciation for I certainly have that.
So how can I continue that does it look like
thinking through Oh, I kind of started out my career
basically as a visual artist, as a graphic designer, then
moving into photography. Well, what does it look like another
stage of that, even where I am incorporating more of
that into my life. These are questions I'm like asking
myself now where I'm like, man, I don't know, there's
(27:01):
something that there's Maybe life is too short to not
appreciate some of the beauty, like the most beautiful things
that that's out there, that are out there in the world,
and certainly going to the Smithsonian, the National Gallery of Art,
going to different sponsor along the East Coast has allowed
me to realize how much is out there. Gosh, the
Isabella Stewart Gardner, Like Kate and I were talking to
(27:21):
you and sounds amazing you and Emily about that an
amazing place. The if you've never been there and you're
in Boston, I would highly recommend it if you want
an incredible story with this private collection of art that
you get to tour. But it does make me want to.
I think the break has allowed me to see that
as well, that like what you do like from nine
to five, like that's good, but also this there's a
(27:43):
lot of other stuff in life that is also good.
And as we are, we've been talking a little bit
about the kids with ramping back up for school and
they're taking on additional pursuits, whether it's sports or different
clubs and things that they want to do, and it's like, heck, yeah,
I want you to do all these things, like this
is awesome. How can I support you? Like I'm thinking
(28:04):
about them from a development standpoint, because like, you know,
that's what you do as parents, right, Like we've had
our parents who have poured into us and that has
led to our own development. And obviously we do that
by like taking care of our kids and feeding them,
taking them to school and stuff like that, but finding
a way to kind of partner with them broad their
horizon their own development. Yeah, Like I think I've got
(28:26):
a renewed passion for that as well, especially as I
think about them launching. You know, they're all starting new
grades now, so it's like, oh, man, you're gonna get
to start learning about this.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh you're playing this sport.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Oh you are entering school for the first time, buddy,
Like that's something that's totally new, Like yeah, both for
our little dudes are entering into kindergarten, which is a
ton of fun.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I think one of the things traveled does for you too,
and this is something we kept talking about with our kids,
is it helps you to realize that there are so
many different ways to live this life, right, And like
we took surfing lessons one day when we were in
a hot that was like our big explurage item. It
was Sama's birthday and we're like, all right, go surfing
and it was super cool. And of course the guy
John who does our surfing lessons, the stereotypical Hawaiian surfer dude,
(29:08):
and he was so fun to hang out with and
he used all the lino not because I think he
was trying to imitate one, but because he legit is
a surfer dude. And you just realize, like that he's
got this small business taking people out surfing. That's what
he does, and he does decently well for himself, but
he gets to do the thing he enjoins every single
day and that is pretty magical too. He's living the
(29:29):
dream and there are just so many ways to live
this life. And I love when I travel seeing the
different kinds of ways people have chosen to live life,
and it makes me want to reconsider too, not like
shake things up completely, because I'm pretty happy with the
way my life looks, but it's also one of those
things where it's a good reminder that it's not the
only way, or it's not the way that it has
to look forever. Yeah, shaking things up, iterating are all
(29:51):
a part of what it looks like to think to
live a meaningful life, and experiencing that through other people
is one of the great benefits of travel.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Well you speak.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You talking about surfing has got me thinking about a
recurring theme with this beach trip, which I would call
the beach trip where we learned about tides, because like,
ties are like this mystery, right, and now every day
you and I are like, oh.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Well, how long before high tide before low tide?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Because we found out we started playing with our garment
watches that there's a tide feature that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You can turn on and put on the watch phase
or whatever. So I'm like a tide pro now. Oh
and one other thing that I think we should remark
about this trip. We talk a lot about on the
show about livestock creep and how kind of once you
incorporate a new method of spending intr like, it's truly
hard to dial it back down. Hey, you start hiring
someone to your lawn service, really hard to fire them
(30:45):
and start mowing your lawn again. Well, we actually on
the house and we downgraded significantly this year, maybe not significantly,
but price wise significantly almost half price, almost half the price.
But we found a great place. It's like, literally three
house is down from the one we stayed at. And
so I think that's one of those things too. It
doesn't have the amenities, it doesn't it's not as fancified,
(31:07):
but it's one of those things where it's like we kind.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Of it's great, we're so good. We're sitting here and
it did what do we want from a beach house?
And we're like, yeah, that place was over the top,
let's get this one instead.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And it's it's a reconsidering and just kind of talking
it through, just be like do we want to keep
doing that? Like can we sure we could afford it?
We could plunk down the change, we could splurge, but yeah,
this I honestly, there are certain aspects about this house,
even though it is literally half the price.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Of the one that we've gotten in the past. There
are certain aspects of it that are better, yeah than
the functional.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yes, yeah, it's more functional.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It's it's more suited for two families like ours to
get together and hang out at the beach. But the
other crazy thing, too, is that it's like, like you said,
three houses down and I guess I'll share this part.
And I told you that when we that. I guess
it was the night that we arrived here that I
didn't want to walk the same way to pass the
big fancy house because we're probably going to be like, oh, okay,
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to feel like a.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Stab in our heart.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Except that the first day we did walk past it,
and it's Nina, how would you say it? It's under
reconni It is not habitable at the moment because I
guess when it was built they didn't seal it property.
So there's like scaffolding all around this house and it
looks like a total dump. And this total dump doesn't
bother me. But what bothers me is the fact that
had we booked it, we would have likely gotten kicked
(32:24):
out of there. Sure we would have gotten our money back,
but we likely wouldn't have found I mean this place
probably would have been snatched up by that point.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I felt bad too, just because there's a lot of
good memories in that house and you're like, oh man,
it'll sucks to that house.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, it's clear that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
They're going to return it to its former glory. Yeah,
but it's like this, Yeah, it's a fancy house.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
We'll just leave it at that. All that to be said,
we are back. We are looking forward to resuming regular content.
We got many emails people like, what did the Friday
Flights return? So I think I don't know if that's
like the most desire.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
What happened to the Friday Flights?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well, well that'll come out two days from now, is
coming out on Wednesday, and we'll be back here on Friday.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
The problem with the Friday Flights is just the fact that,
I mean, when we are running Besties, you can run
an old interview episode, you can run a topic that
we you know, where we dove deep. No one, I
don't think anybody wants to hear yesterday's news from a
year ago from us.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
That doesn't fly as much.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
So even though all the episodes say Bestie after them,
there at the end, I think maybe I wonder if
a lot of folks missed that and they're thinking, oh sweet,
this is a great episode, which makes me feel good
about some of the older content that we put out there,
very evergreen for folks.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I started to listen to the most recent one that
we re released with Chad Carson, and I was shocked
at how relevant it still was great because interest rates
had spiked, you know, and interest rates remained incredibly high.
Although we're still there and we'll talk about this, i'm
sure in the coming weeks, but the pressure of the
FED might be feeling well, the housing market boom seems
to be officially over, and so what happens with housing
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prices moving forward? That's something I'm I'm fascinated by the
housing market, and I'm sure we'll continue to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
We'll see, but that's I think that could change pretty
quickly though, because like, if the FED does feel a
little pressure, and once races do start ticking down, it's
saying okay, and market trade starts start ticking down as well,
and then home prices what do they do in response
as that demand increases, Well, you tend to see prices
go up. That is not guaranteed, and this is also
going to get played out.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I'm sure over like eighteen months, you know, months and years. Well,
you've still got money, your chops.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I can tell as you start talking about I can
see the fire in your eyes light up while talking
about the housing market.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
If you first time I have talked about the housing
market in two months, Which is fun because okay, doesn't
I mean we chat about actually we do talk about
I bet we do talk more about personal finance stuff,
just on a personal level, right just between between her
and I for our family as we are navigating the waters.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Sure, but yeah, and we want to help you navigate
your personal finance waters.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
We'll continue that. We'll be back on Friday. Thank you
guys so much for listening.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
And hopefully maybe some folks took a break as well,
right Like, maybe some folks are thinking, yeah, I tuned
out because hey, Joe and Matt took a break. I'm
going to take a break too. And hopefully you saw
from the title of this episode that we back. Yeah,
and it's time to get back on the horse, as uh,
you know, the famous fashion designer said and Zoo Lander
so
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Most step all right, appreciate you guys, Matt until next time,
best friends out, best friends out
I mean, I'm probably with us even to start starting
to talk. Now, let's do it. Then, I didn't even
change out of my names, mean neither. We're both.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I wouldn't say sopping wet because the walk back from
the beach definitely dried us off a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
But we're gonna start like this, Yeah, all right, welcome
to how to Money? I get to say it this time, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
And we're back, we're back from sabbatical.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
What's what's funny is I don't I don't even know
how to do it because you're the one who always says,
welcome to how the money? You know, and I only say,
and I am.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That it's easier than you might imagine. It's actually not
the toughest part of my job. You're incredibly talented, my friend.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Uh No, this is an episode where we wanted to
just ease listeners back into It's.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Not like worries and back into it. It's honestly us. Yes,
it's it's weirder for you.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And me to sit down because we haven't hoarded in
six seven weeks or something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I was like, Matt, remind me how to talk into
a microphone again.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It is a little bit different though, because we are
at a beach house that our families so have rented.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We do this every summer. And what's crazy is that
in the I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The kids are older, they're out at the beach, and
I mean Kate's out there with them, but they're.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Kind of autonomous more and more. Granted, the little.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Dudes are still young.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
They need less help than they.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We are entering a new phase of game playing and
we're like way past the phase of digging typools for
the baby's kind of thing as opposed to like hitting
the volleyball, playing some spike ball, swimming across the what's
it the inlet, Yes, that's your favorite thing that you
like to do.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I was gonna say, I think our kids are staying
up later than we are now, which is like for
this is the first year ever where we've crossed that
threshold and so like adult gameplay, that's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's been most noticeable in the fact that we have
not played one game of a choir. Yeah, which it's
funny because we're sitting at the quote unquote game table
and there's a game of Clue here that the kids
left out because that's what they're playing, they're getting into
the board games on their own. But how you been?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I've been great.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I mean, does it feel weird for you to get
back on the mic a little bit?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
A little bit because it does feel like it's been
a while. And I'm sure to our own answer, like
we've heard you talking, but not fresh stuff, and so
what have you been up to? And I feel like
there is probably a lot for us to relay and
as we've come back from our sabbaticals, our trips, and
we'll share I think a lot here, but we'll also
share more in the months to come about where we will.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We'll have a lot of stories to regale. We're still probably.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Know I'm still processing having taken a break more of
a break, a summer break, honestly, like more in line
with the kids.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But how you there's actually a Facebook argument about sabbatical
many retirement, the words that you use, Oh yeah, what
can you call it? And so I totally would have
been interested in in that argument because and I mentioned
this at some point on one of the episodes, because
Katie North and whoever else they're talking about sabbaticals typically
being at least, you know, three months or plus like
(02:51):
three to nine is at least at least a many retirement, right,
So people were saying, if you're going to call it
a many retirement, needs to be kind of longer like that.
Sabbatical Sure, six eight weeks. Fine, So I guess that's
probably what you and I really par took in. Was
a sabbatical, not I call it a summer break.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Was a summer break.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Man. You want to share a little bit about your trip,
because y'all took some of your time, and so that's
the most recent thing, the most recent thing. Right before this,
y'all came back from your trip. We came back for
our trip. Maybe we'll share a little bit. Let's do
that or adventures.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And then maybe we'll get into kind of some bigger,
deeper stuff that we've we've kind of been thinking about.
But yeah, what's the most fun thing you did in
the past two weeks? So I just want to say this.
At the outset, we the first part of our sabbatical,
we stayed home. It was staycation, yeah, and the second
part was travels. And I was shocked at how much
I enjoyed the staycation.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I was like, Oh, the travel is.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Gonna be the best part, and the travel is awesome.
Thoroughly enjoyed it. But I really really enjoyed just kind
of rhythms.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
At home, living in your own house, in your own town,
doing the cool like stuff that you get to now
participate in because you're not yeah, completely slammed booked.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, so it was just like, oh, three pm, let's
go to the pools of family whatever it is. Yeah,
that kind of stuff. So I really enjoyed that. But yeah,
in regards to the trip, it was awesome. We were
in Seattle for my cousin's wife, and I was reminded
of how Seattle is one of the great cities, not
just in the US but.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
In the world. It is.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's a beautiful one.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's a beautiful town and chock full of craft beer
of course too, which which makes me love it even more.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, so do you have what was the best brewery
that you went to when you were out in Seattle?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So did you do well?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
You were only there for a couple of days, only
there for a couple of days, pick them up at
the grocery store. But it didn't even make it even
though I was in Ballard, which like you can't even
turn around and not see a brewery your smack dab
in the midst It's insane.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Is that what the kids used to call the hipster
part of town pretty much twenty years ago?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, And so like I think, Ballard had all these
old warehouses, and so breweries just moved in and so
I ran. I ran past at least like six of them,
but didn't actually step foot in any of them. But
I had a couple of good beers while I was there.
But actually the best beers I had well when we
went to Hawaii, which was our next stop on it.
And one travel tip to save money, go travel someplace
(04:53):
where one of your friends lives so you can stay
with them.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Ooh yeah, so hey, you don't mind if we crashed.
So this is this is the it's not horseshoe theory.
This is full circle for you. You went from crawd
uh pad crashing to hostels to airbnb's, and now you
took your family back to pad crash. Right.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So, Emily's best friend lives just outside of Honolulu, and
we stayed with them for four nights and we hit
up a brewery. I'm blanking on the name. It's right
there in downtown Honolulu. We had that beer just last night,
the oh Han Mari or something like that. Yeah, gosh,
they made some excellent beers that those were definitely the
best beers.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I had on the whole train.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Nice and just Hawaii so wonderful. Of course.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So I was up in the northeast, which is home
to all the hazy New England I pas, of course,
so I got some PARTI I mean, oh my gosh, dude.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I had your sending me picks.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was all the greats of course, Trillium, of course,
Bistol Brothers two. Okay, so two standouts that I was
not expecting that we literally stumbled upon were Hudson Valley Brewing,
which was in Beacon, New York. That's in the Hudson Valley.
Of course, phenomenal, so good them, as well as Bellflower,
which was I think it's a newer brewery in Portland, Maine. Okay,
(06:06):
both of the of course, we had some Maine Beer
Company beers while we're up in Maine up in Acadia.
But those other two breweries though, were total standouts.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Portland's one of those hip towns too, where they've got
a plethora of good beer up there.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
In the same part of town. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That was huge for us for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm curious for you and we can get into a
bunch of different stuff here, But what was maybe your
did you have like a favorite part of your trip,
like the best favorite.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Leg is your best day?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh see, you're putting all this pressure on one singular day.
I don't think I can narrow it down to a
specific day because I feel like we took our I
don't know, we did a whole lot in two weeks. Yeah,
it was a road trip, which let me just share
with folks too that man, and we knew this going
into it. But a road trip is not a vacation.
(06:56):
A road trip is an adventure and every waking moment
and I feel like, was Kate and I talking about
our next steps. We had plans, we had itineries, we
had tickets booked, but then it's us saying, oh man,
we really went hard yesterday though, like are we actually
going to do everything we had planned? And kind of
making decisions on the fly, trying to figure out where
are the bathrooms, where.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Can we refill their water bottles.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's just constant, You're just constantly on edge, which means
don't come back. No.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No, it was a ton of fun, but just a
lot of on the go.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So I'm not going to pinpoint it to a specific day,
but I feel like a theme, I'll say a theme
something that we just consistently did with the kids was
that they were regularly trying new foods and being exposed
to different things.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So, whether it's like.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Lobster what do you call the lobster rolls, whether it's
that that we stumbled upon that we learned about this
beach a few let's see, maybe at the beginning of
summer York Maine, so we just were like, oh, maybe
we'll swing swing by up there, and we ended up
spending way more time up there, stumbled upon the awesome
crab shack. I think it was Foxes actually, okay, beautiful
(08:04):
lighthouse right there.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was just I don't know this.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It was amazing. Kids all tried lobster for the first time, Yes, oysters.
That was in Boston where we're like, all right, all
y'all are gonna try raw oysters, and just doing some
of those experiences with the kids. Aside from I think
a lot of folks would think, oh was it seen
the Declaration of Independence. Yes, that was awesome. So was
seeing George Washington's copy in the what was that I
(08:28):
guess that was the Library of Congress.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So you were singing the praises about Abraham Lincoln's pocket knife.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We oh, we got to see well, yeah, the contents
in his pocket. That's also there in the in the library,
the Congressional lib what's it called, the Congresstional libraries, especially
attached to.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The Capitol building. That was super cool.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That was really cool for me personally, going, oh, we
got tickets you reach Oh hey, so here's a tip
for folks. Reach out to your local representative, local senator
in your state, and you get tickets to a lot
of places in DC for free. You just have to
get on the radar. So obviously the Sithsonian and all
those different places they're free. But the ability to go
(09:05):
tour the capital, you know, like not as a rioter,
like where you're walking through, I mean, when.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
You're actually allowed to be there. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's it's all inspiring because it's I think it's like
the closest thing I think we have in the US too,
like a cathedral, like a Gothic can get mean it's massive,
it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Did your congress person asked if you voted for them before?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
They said yes, no, you know, it's just one of
their one of their interns that they were just like,
oh yeah, we actually have a few passes that we
can give you. That's cool. So that was a ton
of fun that specific day there. DC also just a
cheap place to visit. Oh yeah, a plethora of awesome
stuff for very little money. Also in DC, we went
to Kate's just amazing when it comes to food and
planning trips out. We went to jose Gosh what's his
(09:47):
last name?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
We talked and Andrece.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yes, he's got this taco place in DC that's like
right between it's like right off the mall. Had an
awesome time there with the kids. It was just it
was fun because it was slightly more refined food that
Kate and I could both enjoy, but the kids were
digging it as well. They tried beef tongue there for
their first time, so they're like, what's is that an
actual tongue of a cow.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
We're like, yeah, and it's really good.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
They know what they're doing here. Uh. Some of those
culinary experiences really stand out, but obviously just being able
to learn a whole lot about our country because it
was kind of a quasi US history sort of road trip, which.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Is taking them up, taking them to World Schooling during the.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Summer, and taking them up to Acadia, which is the
place that Kate and I have been to before, having
prosecco and popovers at Jordan Pond like that, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But yeah, it was. It was a great trip for us.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But like you, so I wanted to lude back to
what you were saying as far as living kind of
like quasi normal life at home and having just more
time in your hands.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm totally with you, man, It's great. It's so nice
to be able to have downtime.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And for us Kate and I, I mean, we love
working on projects at home, and so I spent a
lot of that time, like doing stuff around the house
that I normally don't.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Have time to do. Or you were in the yard
a ton too.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I was in the yard a ton. Well you know,
you know the problem is that Kate ordered a chip drop,
which is free, and you know this because you were
actually you you pitched in a little bit. You're like, hey,
I'll shovel af you not more than a few shoveled
several wheelbarrows full of moulsh and hauled them to far
corners of our of our Backyardeah. Yeah, just doing stuff
(11:19):
like that, being able to hang with the kids at home,
that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
The one thing I didn't get checked off my to
do list was to clean out our garage.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well, I was on your list. It's still on my list.
I'll get to it at some point.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Your garage isn't really messy, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Not too bad, but like, I really want to organize
my tools and stuff, and I just look at you. Yeah,
getting tired of not being able to find stuff when
I need it. So I say the cool I think
maybe if I was to pick one of the coolest things.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Oh yeah, what it was.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We went to.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Volcanoes National Park and there are episodic eruptions right now,
you got to talk about that volcano there, and so
it's uh, we actually got to see a live lava flow.
It's literally lava erupting into the sky and it was crazy.
It was one of those things where we kind of
got in earlier than we thought. The airbnb we're going
to stay out wasn't ready and see, let's just National
Parks two miles up the road.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Let's go blessing in disguise.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It was totally was because we got to see it
and it cut off before dark that night, so we
got to see it for a couple hours from different angles.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Literally not even interrupt the rest of the time you're there.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And the rest of the shutout.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, So it was serendipitous and it's one of those
cool things that none of us will ever forget.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well, that's the thing. You can't necessarily plan on that.
Like you can plan a trip to Hawaii, but you
can't plan on there being a lava flow because that's
up to mother nature. Man. Yeah, and okay, so the
time that we're recording this, there was also like more
action going down there in Hawaii or I.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Guess it was the Warner tsunami warning. Yeah, like it
seems like why I avoided the worst there for sure,
and and everybody else to it sounds like minimal impact anywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But that still would have been crazy, like a tsunami siren.
It's got the alliteration. So I know you love it,
but you probably would have been a little frightening there
with the kids. Yeah right, oh, my kids will have.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Been freaking out.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
The biggest money saving tip on what you got the island,
either the Big Island or Owahu, but especially the Big
Island is have a costcome membership. Really yeah, so not
only just to breeze and get a hot dog if
you're hungry or whatever, which you can do for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know. Still our family still has not had a Costco. H.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I'm trying not to judge you for that. So breeze
in there and get that. But the biggest thing is
everything on Hawaii is significantly more expensive. Sure, so you
want to drop in and get a beer, a single
beer X you think, maybe not two X, but it's
definitely more expensive. And Costco keeps their prices the same
on the island of Hawaii as they do on the mainland.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I bet it's so popular there.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So like my cold brew the two pac same prices
when I get it, the Stoke Stoke cold Brew, same
exact price, same with like loaves of bread or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Impressive.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
They have certain other things that they sell only in Hawaii,
which is cool, so you can get some local stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Local flavor. Yeah, but I really appreciate that, and so.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I was like, thank god, I don't have to drink
some local like Hawaiian coffee.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I can get my stoke cold brew.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
We were trying to do, especially in on the Big Island,
we were trying to do more of our eating at home,
and so we're.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Like, let's that's played some groceries.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
We landed, went straight to Costco and got a bunch
of stuff so we could cook meals.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
All right, okay, so our I'll share a travel money
saving tip. So this is so predictable people are gonna say.
Of course, Joel talked about Costco and Matt talked about Aldie.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Because look, get this, guess we're not sponsored by them,
so sadly we.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Just love it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
We were just out on the beach, so literally, you
don't have a shirt on. My trunks are soaking wet.
We just jumped back in here to record a little bit.
Just before we came in, we looked over and there's
a couple and he had an Aldie bag. Looked like
they had all the beach chairs and maybe it seemed
like one of them had an Aldie bathing suit.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Does that even exist? It was all like the Aldie Rainbow.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I wonder if they worked for Aldi Corporate or something.
We need to go ask them when they go back Aldie.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Schwag, Yeah, what was Oh so mine is Aldi related?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I was gonna say, guess how many times we ate
because we'd love eating at Chick fil A?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Like, if we're going to drive to the beach, that's
probably going to be our stop for lunch, right, like
we're gonna put our order in.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Guess so many times we ate Chick fil A on
the road trip?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Twice?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Zero, baby, oh zero.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And it wasn't even something that we were trying to do.
I wasn't like this is going to be great fodder
for the show. It literally didn't cross our minds because
we had planned on and we did this earlier in
the summer. We went up to Michigan Lake Michigan for
some time with family, but we stopped at Aldi on
the way back and not only bought groceries that we
knew that we needed for back home, like eggs and milk, right,
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like just some basics, but we said, wait a minute,
let's just stop in there and we'll get food for
dinner as well, and put together kind of a meal
on the road, and we're so much more food, better
quality stuff than fast food, you know then stuff that's
that's deep fried, and you're saving just a ton of money. Yeah,
I mean our typical Chick fil a order, there's six
of us. Our typical order is like fifty bucks. Yeah,
(15:42):
and that's just for fast food, and it's not well rounded.
There's not whole, not granted, there's protein, right, And so
we took that mindset, and so for the road trip,
Kate brought a big baking tray to be able to
load up these little lunch boxes, like these little they're plastic.
They look like tupperware their subdivide lunchibles, yeah basically, but
like homemade lunchables. Yeah, and I filled with all the
(16:05):
worst things that So we would stop at ald and
get a block of cheese.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
We would get gosh, what else would we do?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Nuts, cured meats, like vegetables, chopped like clean uh. We
got bottled water right, like kind of clean off like cucumbers,
slice that up. And so we did that a ton
on the road and say, I know, we saved a
ton of money. We're we're eating so much better, so
much less expensive, I know, than Chick fil a. Again,
I don't even know, because Kate's the one that calls ahead,
(16:33):
you know, she uses the app and places with the
Chick fil A order. But it's at least I'm certain
it's at least fifty bucks, if not more.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I'm sure a pop. Yeah, that's not We did that
a ton and for us.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That was in addition to Oh, one of the AMA
questions I think was about, hey, are you gonna rent
a car or are you going to take the old man?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Let's let's talk about your car rental. Yep, let's do
it right after this. All right, we're back, Matt. We
left off you were a car rental talk about your
car rental. I dropped you off at the car rental place. Yeah,
and it turns out, Oh, it was a nightmare. You
did not end up running your car there.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean, I don't even though you had one booked.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't know if I want to throw the company
under the bus, because maybe they're decent, but this particular location,
they took my car rental reservation, but they couldn't hold it.
As Jerry Seinfeld would would say, right, is that how
it goes?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It's one of the classic episodes.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, and so they're like, well, we can offer you
a nicer vehicle, this grand It was a Grand Highlander,
I will say, and it looked nice. I was even
tempted because I thought, I'm never going to have the
opportunity to drive over long distance in a leather It
was just really nice. But I was like, no, there's
no luggage space, the ability to move around in the vehicle.
So anyway, we ended up going with a van, a
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Chrysler pacifica rental with Avis. It was great, and specifically
we got a hybrid, which was also very nice. To
talk about some savings.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Driving that many miles, yeah, I will.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Say, though I did some quick math, we save some money,
but it wasn't a tremendous amount. I don't think we
saved much more than too much.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Do you think you saved on that?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I think we said around two hundred bucks tw hundred
bucks and gas, which isn't nothing. Yeah, but you know
you're you're dropping like around one thousand bucks on a rental,
Like I wouldn't go out of my way to go
to get extra, to pay extra in order to get
a hybrid. When it's like, all right, if we were
driving our vehicle, maybe I'm getting like twenty miles per
gallon in an old traditional you know, mini van as
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opposed to something closer to thirty in a hybrid, because
the hybrid doesn't work so well when you're driving higher
speeds on the interestate, it's great for driving around town
because when you're driving around town, that's when the that's true,
that's when the little low power motor kind of thing
kicks on and you're getting like thirty five miles thirty
five to thirty seven miles per gallon.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
But it was nice.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I loved watching that little power meter thing there on
the I would I think I would get addicted to that.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But if I had a hybrid, I would always be like, dude,
I want to get the leave.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I want to be in the green.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I want to constantly be regenerative, breaking like you're hyper
miling it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yes, I will say, getting back into traditional vehicle like
standard disc brakes seem so antiquated. Yeah, I'm like, why
not use this stored energy that is in the mass
of our vehicle trying to slow down to generate power.
Sure doesn't that seem like a no brainer?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It does.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I feel like all cars should be equipped with regenitative braking.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I rented one of those new Jeeps on hawaii'se Jeps
are the way to get around.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Come on, if you're in Hawaii, yeah, you should be
driving a jeep around.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And so it's got a little like a little battery
in there that they I guess you can drive it
in just electric mode or in hybrid mode, but it's
like kind of pathetic, Like the battery is so tiny.
It's it lasts like about two minutes.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
In electric road was literally in two minutes.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's it's not long at all. It's it's yeah, probably
close to that, and then hybrid mode it maybe lasts
like thirty five to forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So okay, it's kind of pathetic.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But if you had it at home, though, do you
think it would be enough for you to run an erran.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Let's say you're going to the grocery store back. Maybe
it's not that kind of like what it's geared for.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I think so, But I don't think it's even as
robust as like the the plug in hybrids that Toyota offers,
for instance, like the rap those be more like forty
miles worth.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
That's the difference between jeeps and toyotas man toyota like
they've been perfecting the hybrid, yeah, for and now they
prime right, like the plug in evs or whatever, the
plug in hybrids. They've been perfecting that for twenty plus
years now. As opposed to some of these newer guys
that were like, oh, yeah, maybe we'll take advantage of
the EV taxings, you know, all the incentives that are
getting poured into green vehicles.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
My question for you, yeah, how much did you miss
talking about personal finance? And did you find yourself maybe
talking about roth iras as you were going.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
To sleep, just just.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
A nobody, just to yourself, just a random guy waiting
in line on this methoda calling your.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Random friends to give them finance tips or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, I never feel myself tempted tempted to do that.
I will say, though, I'm trying to unpack as to
because we were trying to treat this as this abbatical,
not just as a time to take some bigger trips,
but within that and.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You say that, what do you mean, what's the difference, Well.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Well, having more time to take trips is fun, right,
as opposed to like, all right, going on a three
day silent retreat where you're just really getting a lot
more introspective. I don't know. Maybe I was just too
ambitious with the time to be able to do absolutely nothing,
because even the time where I was supposed to do
absolutely nothing at home, I'm like, oh, I could use
the time to put a laundry room sync in our
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laundry room, which is something I did, and it was
a ton of fun. It was a little frustrating at times,
almost electricated to myself. Maybe I'll say that for say
that start for some other time. But claud you're still here.
I'm still here. I didn't. Yeah, it's all good. It
was a two twenty line too. It was too the dryer,
so it was like higher voltage. I think it could
have been bad. But I can safely say that I
(21:41):
definitely miss recording. I missed doing what it is that
you and I get to do here. It's and obviously
it's a blessing to be able to a be our
own bosses, but then be within that framework to have
the ability to step away from our work for the
summer and say, all right, let's spend some time, you know,
for you like training a little bit more, maybe going
for more runs, spending more time with friends, spending time
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with family, just chilling out, reading more. Yeah, the ability
to take some of these bigger trips that you otherwise wouldn't, right,
like as opposed to going out to Seattle and just
kind of flying back real quick.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You're like, hey, we're already out.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Here on the West coast, baby, let's let's fly it
down to Hawaii. The ability and the blessing, it is
a blessing for I think our ability to do something
like that same thing with taking a two week long
road trip and to not feel confbited up right to
the very start of it and the very end of it, right,
to be able to say, all right, we can kind
of think about this well, prepare for it, and then
when you come home, it's like you can also, all right,
(22:38):
let's take some time to kind of reacclimate to home life,
and like, all right, let's just sleep in tomorrow, just
all the kind of you'll come back on a Sunday
and get back to real life on a Monday, exactly.
And that's hard and so man that I certainly most
definitely appreciate and within that sort of within thinking about that,
certainly missed being able to talk into the microphone with
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you about the things that we love care about and
the ability to bring money saving information and money investing
information and all the things that we love to talk
about here on the podcast to our listeners.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, yeah, what about you. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was like, I thought I was going to have
like withdrawal symptoms or something like that, shake something away,
like three weeks not talking me into a microphone about
personal finance with my buddy.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
The going's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
The good news is that, babe, we're on vacation. The
bad news is I started smoking.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I had had to find a habit to take over
my other habit, which is my day job. But no, like,
I'm actually super stoked about getting back into a rhythm
of kids in school, going into work and recording and
talking about personal I do love it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I was.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I will say I was still reading a similar amount
to maybe what I read on a daily basis, just
because I'm it's a passive subject. I'm not just passionate,
you know, I don't just get paid to do. I'm
also passionate about it. Yeah, but I just I feel
like I was able to get away to such an
extent that I wasn't missing it. I was like I
was glad to be away, but also the looking forward
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to being back when the time came.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I get that, which I shit, that felt great.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I definitely wasn't reading as Oh, I'll be honest, I
wasn't not reading as much. I was reading as much
total perhaps or maybe more. I'm still in the I'm
in the middle of The Brother's Cameras Off, which is
a really long It's a freaking yeah it is. It's
like over a thousand pages, and so I'm like, I
feel like I've been reading this for a month. Uh,
and I'm maybe halfway through. Wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Wasn't it Laura Vandercamp that told us she read war
in Peace or in Piece daily Emails?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I think that's even longer. Actually, that's crazy, which.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Which, by the way, what are you reading? Are you
in the middle of anything?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I'm reading Rick Rubin's book on creativity Nice, which is
super super interesting and it makes me Last year you yeah,
and you and I have actually been talking about do
we love what we do? But like, hey, can we
come back to this podcast with fresh eyes with it
with a different approach? And I think we will, like
I think we will continue. I think in a fresh passion.
(24:54):
Even I'm like, yeah, actually super stoked to get away
from it, and I'll come back to it and be like,
all right, what can we do to improve this thing
that we love that it's been around for seven plus years.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
It's fun to take breaks, yeah, I mean, I think
that's part of it too. It's I mean, it's fun
from the sense of like you get to do fun
things while you're taking time off. But it's also fun
to kind of look at it with fresh eyes, being
able to take a break from it and being like, oh,
wait a minute, no this And I think that's kind
of where I guess where I'm at right now as
I think about it, I'm just like, this is awesome,
like what we get to do on.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
A on a you know, day in and day out,
and even if you're thankful and you know you love it,
sometimes when you're in the weeds of day to day
stuff and then it's harder to see totally.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Can it can be tougher to be appreciative, I will say,
taking more time to appreciate other things in life. Does
I still obviously, I still want to be able to
do what we do. It does also make me want
to make sure I'm setting aside enough time to do
other things that I have been able to expose myself to,
like art, for instance. Like I was like talking with
(25:53):
Kate about this, I'm like, you.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Know, entering into your George Bush era.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I see, but I mean maybe, but like literally like
we spent way more time in galleries and appreciating art
and learning about artists like gosh, the Farnsworth Art Museum
has this incredible Andrew Wyath collection and somewhat familiar with
him before, but really like diving into I'm like, I
recently started a book that was this six day interview
(26:18):
of him. This was actually a book that's that was
in Kate's family that an uncle gave her Kate's grandmother,
and she was just like, well, don't take this one
out to the beach. She's like, make sure this one
kind of was like a family not a family heirloom,
but it means something more but art, right, So the
ability to I don't know, carve more and I don't
know what exactly that looks like, but does it look
(26:40):
like more of an appreciation for I certainly have that.
So how can I continue that does it look like
thinking through Oh, I kind of started out my career
basically as a visual artist, as a graphic designer, then
moving into photography. Well, what does it look like another
stage of that, even where I am incorporating more of
that into my life. These are questions I'm like asking
myself now where I'm like, man, I don't know, there's
(27:01):
something that there's Maybe life is too short to not
appreciate some of the beauty, like the most beautiful things
that that's out there, that are out there in the world,
and certainly going to the Smithsonian, the National Gallery of Art,
going to different sponsor along the East Coast has allowed
me to realize how much is out there. Gosh, the
Isabella Stewart Gardner, Like Kate and I were talking to
(27:21):
you and sounds amazing you and Emily about that an
amazing place. The if you've never been there and you're
in Boston, I would highly recommend it if you want
an incredible story with this private collection of art that
you get to tour. But it does make me want to.
I think the break has allowed me to see that
as well, that like what you do like from nine
to five, like that's good, but also this there's a
(27:43):
lot of other stuff in life that is also good.
And as we are, we've been talking a little bit
about the kids with ramping back up for school and
they're taking on additional pursuits, whether it's sports or different
clubs and things that they want to do, and it's like, heck, yeah,
I want you to do all these things, like this
is awesome. How can I support you? Like I'm thinking
(28:04):
about them from a development standpoint, because like, you know,
that's what you do as parents, right, Like we've had
our parents who have poured into us and that has
led to our own development. And obviously we do that
by like taking care of our kids and feeding them,
taking them to school and stuff like that, but finding
a way to kind of partner with them broad their
horizon their own development. Yeah, Like I think I've got
(28:26):
a renewed passion for that as well, especially as I
think about them launching. You know, they're all starting new
grades now, so it's like, oh, man, you're gonna get
to start learning about this.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh you're playing this sport.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Oh you are entering school for the first time, buddy,
Like that's something that's totally new, Like yeah, both for
our little dudes are entering into kindergarten, which is a
ton of fun.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I think one of the things traveled does for you too,
and this is something we kept talking about with our kids,
is it helps you to realize that there are so
many different ways to live this life, right, And like
we took surfing lessons one day when we were in
a hot that was like our big explurage item. It
was Sama's birthday and we're like, all right, go surfing
and it was super cool. And of course the guy
John who does our surfing lessons, the stereotypical Hawaiian surfer dude,
(29:08):
and he was so fun to hang out with and
he used all the lino not because I think he
was trying to imitate one, but because he legit is
a surfer dude. And you just realize, like that he's
got this small business taking people out surfing. That's what
he does, and he does decently well for himself, but
he gets to do the thing he enjoins every single
day and that is pretty magical too. He's living the
(29:29):
dream and there are just so many ways to live
this life. And I love when I travel seeing the
different kinds of ways people have chosen to live life,
and it makes me want to reconsider too, not like
shake things up completely, because I'm pretty happy with the
way my life looks, but it's also one of those
things where it's a good reminder that it's not the
only way, or it's not the way that it has
to look forever. Yeah, shaking things up, iterating are all
(29:51):
a part of what it looks like to think to
live a meaningful life, and experiencing that through other people
is one of the great benefits of travel.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Well you speak.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You talking about surfing has got me thinking about a
recurring theme with this beach trip, which I would call
the beach trip where we learned about tides, because like,
ties are like this mystery, right, and now every day
you and I are like, oh.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Well, how long before high tide before low tide?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Because we found out we started playing with our garment
watches that there's a tide feature that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You can turn on and put on the watch phase
or whatever. So I'm like a tide pro now. Oh
and one other thing that I think we should remark
about this trip. We talk a lot about on the
show about livestock creep and how kind of once you
incorporate a new method of spending intr like, it's truly
hard to dial it back down. Hey, you start hiring
someone to your lawn service, really hard to fire them
(30:45):
and start mowing your lawn again. Well, we actually on
the house and we downgraded significantly this year, maybe not significantly,
but price wise significantly almost half price, almost half the price.
But we found a great place. It's like, literally three
house is down from the one we stayed at. And
so I think that's one of those things too. It
doesn't have the amenities, it doesn't it's not as fancified,
(31:07):
but it's one of those things where it's like we kind.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Of it's great, we're so good. We're sitting here and
it did what do we want from a beach house?
And we're like, yeah, that place was over the top,
let's get this one instead.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And it's it's a reconsidering and just kind of talking
it through, just be like do we want to keep
doing that? Like can we sure we could afford it?
We could plunk down the change, we could splurge, but yeah,
this I honestly, there are certain aspects about this house,
even though it is literally half the price.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Of the one that we've gotten in the past. There
are certain aspects of it that are better, yeah than
the functional.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yes, yeah, it's more functional.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It's it's more suited for two families like ours to
get together and hang out at the beach. But the
other crazy thing, too, is that it's like, like you said,
three houses down and I guess I'll share this part.
And I told you that when we that. I guess
it was the night that we arrived here that I
didn't want to walk the same way to pass the
big fancy house because we're probably going to be like, oh, okay,
(32:00):
to feel like a.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Stab in our heart.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Except that the first day we did walk past it,
and it's Nina, how would you say it? It's under
reconni It is not habitable at the moment because I
guess when it was built they didn't seal it property.
So there's like scaffolding all around this house and it
looks like a total dump. And this total dump doesn't
bother me. But what bothers me is the fact that
had we booked it, we would have likely gotten kicked
(32:24):
out of there. Sure we would have gotten our money back,
but we likely wouldn't have found I mean this place
probably would have been snatched up by that point.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I felt bad too, just because there's a lot of
good memories in that house and you're like, oh man,
it'll sucks to that house.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, it's clear that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
They're going to return it to its former glory. Yeah,
but it's like this, Yeah, it's a fancy house.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
We'll just leave it at that. All that to be said,
we are back. We are looking forward to resuming regular content.
We got many emails people like, what did the Friday
Flights return? So I think I don't know if that's
like the most desire.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
What happened to the Friday Flights?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well, well that'll come out two days from now, is
coming out on Wednesday, and we'll be back here on Friday.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
The problem with the Friday Flights is just the fact that,
I mean, when we are running Besties, you can run
an old interview episode, you can run a topic that
we you know, where we dove deep. No one, I
don't think anybody wants to hear yesterday's news from a
year ago from us.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
That doesn't fly as much.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
So even though all the episodes say Bestie after them,
there at the end, I think maybe I wonder if
a lot of folks missed that and they're thinking, oh sweet,
this is a great episode, which makes me feel good
about some of the older content that we put out there,
very evergreen for folks.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I started to listen to the most recent one that
we re released with Chad Carson, and I was shocked
at how relevant it still was great because interest rates
had spiked, you know, and interest rates remained incredibly high.
Although we're still there and we'll talk about this, i'm
sure in the coming weeks, but the pressure of the
FED might be feeling well, the housing market boom seems
to be officially over, and so what happens with housing
(33:52):
prices moving forward? That's something I'm I'm fascinated by the
housing market, and I'm sure we'll continue to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
We'll see, but that's I think that could change pretty
quickly though, because like, if the FED does feel a
little pressure, and once races do start ticking down, it's
saying okay, and market trade starts start ticking down as well,
and then home prices what do they do in response
as that demand increases, Well, you tend to see prices
go up. That is not guaranteed, and this is also
going to get played out.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I'm sure over like eighteen months, you know, months and years. Well,
you've still got money, your chops.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I can tell as you start talking about I can
see the fire in your eyes light up while talking
about the housing market.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
If you first time I have talked about the housing
market in two months, Which is fun because okay, doesn't
I mean we chat about actually we do talk about
I bet we do talk more about personal finance stuff,
just on a personal level, right just between between her
and I for our family as we are navigating the waters.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Sure, but yeah, and we want to help you navigate
your personal finance waters.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
We'll continue that. We'll be back on Friday. Thank you
guys so much for listening.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
And hopefully maybe some folks took a break as well,
right Like, maybe some folks are thinking, yeah, I tuned
out because hey, Joe and Matt took a break. I'm
going to take a break too. And hopefully you saw
from the title of this episode that we back. Yeah,
and it's time to get back on the horse, as uh,
you know, the famous fashion designer said and Zoo Lander
so
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Most step all right, appreciate you guys, Matt until next time,
best friends out, best friends out
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Matthew Altmix
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