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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is holler Back Now with me Holland Rowden and
I Hunt Radio Podcast. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Hallerback Now.
This is Holland Road and your host. And today we
have the first director of teen Wolf on this podcast,
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that is Timmy Andrew. We are going to be recapping
season one, episode nine, Wolf Spain. Welcome to the show. Holland.
I am honored to be here. Is delightful to see you.
You are always wonderful on teen Wolf, and I'm thrilled
that we get to chat again about it. Well, your
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whole family grew up on teen Wolf. I love Clarion Lily.
Claria is here today as well, guys, and I'm just
so excited to chat with you. Guys. So as does
homework for this podcast. We watched that episode. You did
not this is this is the Andrew family for everybody.
You might have been one of the first in defensive
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the other guests. They said, it's fine if you don't
watch the episode. Either way works, and so I'm not
surprised you know, of course, of course you watched. But
it was a fun episode, right, It's a great episode.
I was amazed how much happened. I was like good god,
how did we get all that done? But it looks fantastic.
But what reminded me that one of the things we're
looking at the scenes and you just sort of get
flashbacks of shooting them. It was one scene and I
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was it was it's it's um. You know when there
was a hallway in that school that you're very familiar with,
the had glass windows on one side, and I guess
it's Tyler and dill and walking down the hallway. And
I remember the reason that we did this dramatic low angle,
you know, because the show was obviously very dramatic, and
the way we shot it, um, it was basically because
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it was snow outside and I was just trying not
to see the snow all over the ground. Remember that
year it was freezing. We were all, yeah, yeah, this
season one, I think we've had like two actors with
almost hypothermia. Are they entered hype? Don't think it was
Jackson and it was Colton, Colton and Crystal and then
poor Tyler was shirtless and so many would see would
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have seen that that season. Colton in the river, Yeah,
I remember that beautiful shot of him coming out these cameras.
You guys were whipping out and these shots you were
setting up, especially at that time, it felt like more
of a movie than it did a TV show. Um
for all the different angles you guys like to set up.
Was was really quite a lot of fun to watch
as an actor. Well, the great thing with that was Russell. Okay,
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It's one of the things I was excited about with
the show was to meet him, really because of that
and other movies of his that he had done and
I knew, so I was a fan of his before
I ever met him. And I remember, I remember very
clearly the very first time I met him on on
Team Wolf, you know, because I'd almost met him several times,
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you know, I'll pause, had almost crossed and done. I
was working in London and he had done a he
did a thing for the BBC in London, and I
was excited to meet him and didn't get to meet
him on that. I went to the set and he
wasn't there. And then here in or there in California,
he did a show for this company and uh and
I was doing their next one, so we sort of overlapped.
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He was shooting and as I was prepping the next
It was a company that did miniseries and stuff, and
I got his trailer, but I never got to meet him. No,
so I never never, I can never get to meet
us this guy. And then I found out he was
doing Team Wolf and I was like, yes, that's this.
I'm finally going to meet Russell Mook because I was
a fan. And uh, this is why I do the podcast.
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I find out information. This is so fun. I had
no idea that you had been a big beer and
you would let that many like you know, happy missages
that yeah, near messages exactly. Yeah, oh that's interesting. So
that's why you know he said he's such a great
visual artists and that's a great director, you know he
he um set the tone for that show. And so
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for me, Um, I would watch his episode. So it
is so it was why are you signed on a
teen Wolf because Russell? Not because of him, but but
I was very excited that I was going to, you know,
work on the show with him. And for me, how
did you get involved? Yeah, well for me as a
director with Russell Um. You know when people say how
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like you know, you get better at something if you
play tennis against somebody who's better than you, you know
it raises your game. And that's how I felt with Russell.
You know, I felt that I'd watched his episodes and
I'd be like, oh my god, how did you do that?
That's so cool? And so then I would be like,
I've got to up my game. I've got to make
my next episode has got to be you know, I've
got to try and be as good as that, you know.
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And so it was fantastic because it really made me
a better director. And Jeff was so awesome because he's
such a he has an encyclopedic knowledge of cinema. You know.
He would come up to me and say, hey, you
remember this obscure Japanese movie? Do you remember that shot
about and two hours into it? Um, you know, in
the in the barn at the back of this lit
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with this one lamp. And I'm like, I'm like, may
I've seen that film? If I did see that film,
I don't remember what you were talking about. But that
I would have to be. I can't seem like I'm
an idiot. So I got to go, of course, yes, yes, yes,
you know, yeah, I can find this film, find this shot.
What's he talking about? And you know, just because they
were both so knowledgeable and so good and talented that
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it really made me better. And there were no rules
like we would you know sometimes you work on our
show and they're rules like, oh, we don't do that,
we don't do this, we need to you know, light
it a certain way or shoot it a certain way.
And for us, we were like, okay, so that was great,
but we don't want to keep doing the same thing.
So what can we do that's interesting? Now? How can
you make the show as cinematic and dramatic and cool
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um with no money? With no money, well, I would
say that's why I wanted to interview you for this episode,
which was nine Wolf Spain, because this is an action
packed episode. And first of all, there's a lot of
upper angles and there's a lot of lower angles, but
the upper angles in this particular episode of starting like
on that slant with Adrian Harris and then following him
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through the room on the slant, this was a very heavy,
I feel like shot episode. In addition to the action,
you've got the police chases, you've got the on foot chases,
then you've got the car chase between Kate and Scott
and styles. So do you remember how long this episode
took did we shoot this past the eight days and
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sort of bled into other days as far as the
block shooting went. Because because we were so loosey goosey
with our schedule we only had two series directors. We
would shoot sometimes things out of way, out of order
in the sense of like it's shot in another episode
because that episode was too big to shoot in the
allotted days we had for you know, episode nine. I
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just was so impressed going back and watching this episode.
I was like, Tim crushed all this action and you know,
you're saying, you know, you're such a big fan of Russell,
and Russell was this big action director, but I really
was like, I loved this episode. The pacing and the
amount of shots you guys, uh guys got will go
through the scene by scene, but do you remember what
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made you guys start with that slanted upward angle throughout
the room that that I went to the list where
it was like Adrian Harris and that was the one
pain that was the alpha was after well, that was
one of the things that I've always been a big
Hitchcock fan, right, so I would all, um, you know,
people say, oh, it's you know, it's an homage to
this movie or that movie. Blatantly would steal stuff from
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from different movies that I thought were cool, and uh
so that's sort of rip off of of Alfred Hitchcock
and the reason we we always birds. I'm trying to
remember the particular I think that one. Actually there's a
there's a movie called The Wrong Man um, and I
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think I think I was there was of those film
noir movies. Everything shot through very dramatic lighting because if
you remember whoever else is in the scenes with him,
like the later on there's a scene with the sheriff.
You know they're are just in silhouette in the background
and only the person is lit in the front with
a little lamp on the desk and stuff. And you
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always have those blinds that like cost really dramatic stripes
on the walls and stuff like that. Um. It was
just I always want to have, as far as I can,
a really interesting shot to start an episode, to go
out on an act break, to come in on a
new act. Um. I just think you you set the tone,
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you know, for the for the show if you can
be as cinematic as possible and having and having a
Tyler Hecklin who is such a great stunt guy, such
a physical guy, and in running down those hallways and
doing the slide into it. Do you remember what I
love about Tim is he is so incredibly organized. He
comes in with a shot list which rustles a bit
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more on the fly. And so networks love when you
make your days, and so to make your day means
to get all of your your scenes in. And the
network loves him because he would make his days. And
you were you were just very organized, and they remember
if it was a Tim episode, I knew that it
was going to be incredibly organized, thank you. So I
mean that the actually organization that action sequence as a
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scene in at the beginning when um Hecklin has been
chased by cop cars and and and then they go
in this Iron Works thing. So I remember on that day,
um that location had like the road that had that
Tyler was driving his car one was one road and
that was behind me. The road that Hecklin was running
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to to go into that factory was um U joined that.
So there was like this sort of triang We had
three different groups of crew, like three different units units
units working that. Yeah, so I had had and I'm
standing in the middle, and then the factory was was
next to me on my on my right side, and
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so basically I would just run into each unit, so
your next shot is this, and I'd run out. They'd
set the cameras and I'd run into the next one
and I'd be like, Okay, we're gonna get this right now,
and we and we should. We'd shoot something in there
and I would tell them that your next shot is this,
and I would just run back. So I must have
got my steps in that night. I was gonna say
that was a lot of shots to get for an episode.
I was like, wait, Tim shooting a mini movie over here,
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like what is happening? Shot in one night? And as
an example, like reason Team Wolf we were able to
make it as cinematics as we did. Was that you know,
other shows you work on, you worked on plenty of
plenty of things, and they would maybe get twenty five
thirty setups camera setups in a day. So on that
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night we would shoot, We shot like one hundred and
thirty setups. Wow, we just shooting non stop, no doubt time,
just prince, Prince, print, go, go go. And Tyler was
so good. Hecklin in that scene because you know that
he was running that's no double, that's him running in
front of cop cars. Right, So we've got these old cars.
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They're driving around him, and if he slipped and fell
or if their brakes went out, that's dangerous, you know that.
I would talk to him like, are you comfortable doing this?
And he said yeah, yeah, And so he's running all
held in front of those cars and they're not hanging around.
And then he wanted to do that slide. He used
to be, uh, you know, baseball player, but that's a
baseball slide because he would tell you, you you know, he
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was he was so good at it, and he said,
look I could do this, and I'm like, oh my god,
all right, So like we did that and we did
that baseball slide. But he's got cars flying at him
while he's doing it. You know, it's crazy. Yeah, I remember,
it's such it's such an amazing opening. It was. I
think it's part of my favorite opening this season watching
season and one, and so yeah, the piecing was incredible.
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Part of our budget with that. Yeah, cars in it
were rentals right from like yeah, yeah Enterprise or whatever
company it was, and so when we would rent those cars,
we would take out the extra insurance so that you know,
you could just we have to do that's how you all,
we're doing it. And they went back. You know, we
were firing when the when the Dylan and Tyler Posey
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drive in to rescue Hecklin in that car, they're being
shot at. They are really being shot at. That car
is being hammered with pellets. Blinks and uh and so
I just I just you know, I'm saying to them, Okay,
just get in and get out as fast as you
can and don't put your head out of the windows.
And those we had stunt guys firing, special effects guys
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firing at that car. And when we handed those cars back,
they were destroyed. Did the extra insurance work? I never
heard anything about it, So I'm assuming everything would do
the PERTSI being the director, you don't really hear about
the logistics after the facts. Sometimes that was the Karen
and Joe thing. I'm sure Karen Karen was dealing with that.
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That's funny. And you also worked with pyrotechnic site mate
when he like slid in in front of the cars
Tyler Hecklin. Uh, you know you had sparks going off
in the background squibs and explosions and it's all live.
None of its CG. It's all real. And uh, you know,
you guys were all brave, you were doing all that stuff.
You were there from the beginning to the end obviously.
So what was your favorite episode or scene? Um, and
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you know from this episode or another episode, is there
something that stuck out your mind for you? Well, in
this episode, I really did enjoy that that opening sequence
because it was quite a challenge and it all came
together and I think everybody did a great job. It
looked it looked good. Um, there's a latest scene. I
always felt bad for Coulton because we seemed to torture
him often. And I did enjoy the scene where we pulled, oh,
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the wolves spain out of his neck. Neck and that's
you know, that's John Posey, that's Tyler's dad doing that.
You know, Oh, absolutely absolutely, yeah, we get to that scene.
So that was one of your favorites. Yeah, it just
just because I think it looked really cool, and Calton
did agree. It was disgusting. It actually made me a
little queasy, like have you like it pulled out and
then the purple flowers falling that were magically not bloody,
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but but of course it was the dream, so you
could play with the suspended reality of like the bloody
strand with the bloodied flowers from the like pretty purple
falling to the ground, and it had a very like
American beauty kind of effect for me. M yeah, I
like that. I like that a lot, and we spent
so those sort of scenes. Bizarrely, you spend a long
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time on like even though there's not much dialogue, you know,
they take a long time to get all those shots,
all the technical ones with the blood or if there's
something before and after effect within a scene. Yeah. Yeah,
like at the end when um Ian you know, changes
back all his scars go away. You know, you have
to shoot that over two different days but exactly the
same setups so that it all matches, so it looks
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like it's, you know, he's magically healed in that moment.
Had do you shot lacrosse scenes before? I didn't even
know what lacrosse walls as a brit Where in England
were you born? It was outside of London. Yeah, what
spawned sort of your interest in film? I'm assuming from
a young age though, Yeah, so I used to drive
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past the Pinewood Film Studios when I was a kid,
and I always wanted to work there and make a
James Bond movie. Director, James, you're doing a version of
it every day now with the amount of action on
the current show, which we'll get to what you're working
on now, as well as on teen Wolf. Thank you. Yes,
it's been lucky. And and for for the audience members
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that are curious, did you you knew I think I
know this answer. You knew Joe and Karen prior to
Teen Wolf. Yes, that's how you guys all met came together. Yeah,
we had worked together for Roger Corman, who was um
King of the b movies. He had this studio that
made really, really bad films and they were great fun
to make. You know, because this is where you met
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Jo Janier. Yes, Joe, I'm our producer and Karen I
met Joe. UM's probably one of the first people I
met in America. And we're great. Yeah. Um, you've been
great friends ever since. I talked to him every week
still and uh yeah, yeah. He calls me when he's
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walking his dog in so we chat and he's walking
his dog called Kevin, and uh yeah, and we chat
but yeah, he brought me on. And because when I
was first, when this was first mentioned to me, I
didn't think the films, the Team Wolf films that had
been made were very good. I didn't like them. Um,
So I was like, hm, hmmm, so what do you
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get yourself into? And then I met but then I
met Jeff and then oh my god. And as soon
as I met Jeff and he started talking about his
vision for the series and what it was going to
be like and what it was going to be about,
I was I was immediately all in. I was very excited.
Oh well, yeah, now we basically are at that scene
of the Wolf Spain when they I loved about Jackson is.
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I love that you start with that close up and
his head in that strap. Um and John Posey, who
is Tyler Posey's father, Um is our is our resident
doctor and Beacon Hills are creepy slash friendly doctor to
any hospital in Beacon Hills. We always used to joke
on the show, it's just like like this, the writings
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for this hospital must be one review and for Melissa,
Melissa ba calls trying to try to hold up the episode.
I'm just gonna say, letting Jackson on the computer come
on and then seeing the summary of charges and she's like,
oh okay, moving on. It's like suspend the reality of
what of parenting and Beacon Hills and uh authority authority figures. Yeah,
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it was quite funny. Um but uh yeah that scene
actually made me squeamish when you're taking the wolf's bad
out of the neck and uh, this is a really big,
big episode for Jackson as well. I really liked all
the different bits um that you played with the voiceover
throughout the episode of of of Jackson talking to McCall
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I thought that was really fun as well. What I
love I love about it is I think it's really,
I finally as really funny. I just think it's there's
so much humor between everybody and like Jet, you know,
Calton's really funny, Dylan's really funny. You know, Tyler Hecklin's
really funny in it. You know, like there's so much
humor in it. It's fantastic. Yeah, watching the showback, I
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think episode nine, there's something about that two thirds of
the way through the season bit for me that you felt,
um Dylan's character, you felt the funny on him. But
in episode nine. It just it was a hook line
and sinker of like, wow, how talented is this man? Um?
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How many bits that he came up with that were
non you know, so they were vocal, but they were
non scripted of the sounds and the movements, And he
just really came alive for me. Um, and I obviously
you know see why why he is the fan favorite.
He comes alive and and and this episode for me
was was really where watching the show back now, um,
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I am able to see that, and so it's it's
been really fun to watch to watch him in this episode.
What's your favorite scene in the episode? Man, I really
like the opening. I just I honestly did not realize
you guys got that one in one night. Because when
you know, for Kimberly and Michigan, when the actors aren't
on set, we don't know what's going on. We find
out when the audience finds out of watching it episodes.
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So it's always, um when you read the scripts, you
it's always interesting to go, oh, are they gonna shoot that?
What's that gonna look like? When you're not in the scene.
So my favorite I'll never forget watching that. I'm pretty
sure we were at Jeff's house for that one. Yeah,
we always got it. Yeah, when we watched back the episodes, Yeah,
we'd order basset of a pizza and he'd have a
whole get up. It was really fun, and I remember
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everyone cheering through that. I'm almost positive that's where where
we were. And I'm not imagining this that they were
cheering throughout that almost entire opening sequence. I'm sure that
had to feel good. It was definitely one of my favorites.
I also liked the pool scene, which we'll get to
it a second. I have I have some questions about
the pool scene, um of when Alison and Jackson are swimming,
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because I thought that's such a fun way to set
up a the scene as a director. Um and obviously
it was scripted, but getting a pool was probably not easy.
But well, we'll get to that. Um how long. Yeah,
would you say that it took up the most of
the day When you're saying it's such a detailed part
to film, the wolf's been coming out of the neck, Yeah,
things like that. You know, often some scenes are you know,
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a bunch of people chat talking enough for pages and
pages dollar and uh so that's that's um. One thing.
But but you can normally get through that quite quickly.
But when it's when it's something like that where it's
very specific and weird shots, you know, because we're like
underneath him when he's got his strap thing, and then
you know, I like the shots of his eyes, you
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know that all those all the different kinds of ways
to poke him, like so many insert shots in this episode. Yeah,
it takes time because getting that those things in focus.
And then on our you know, obviously on our show
we always played with focus and stuff, so you wanted
like some of the time but not all the time,
you know, just getting it all you would you make
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a shot list of like get this out of focus,
in focus, out of focus, so these nes three I
don't need out of focus. Like how detailed were you
pre and then on the day how much would you improvise? Um,
it's like fifty fifty. You have to plan, so you know,
basically I do the I do a shot list so
that the everybody else knows how long a scene's gonna take,
you know, because every setup takes time. So even though
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like that scene with him being tortured or whatever it may,
I can't remember, but in the script perhaps it was
just like a quarter of a page. Maybe it wasn't
very long. Um, you know, if I've got twenty shots
to get, that's going to take time. You know, every
shot takes fifteen minutes, you know, so that's four hours. Yeah,
so it takes. So that just shows you like, oh,
that's going to take a while. Whereas Eve, you know,
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you might have had a dialogue scene with somebody else.
Whe was just you and you know, Alison talking something,
and it might have We can shoot it because it's
just two of you talking, you know. Yeah. Absolutely. For
the narrative sense of the podcast, there's uh this idea
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that Tyler is going to having to ultimately steal the
necklace because he is unable to have Alison give him
the necklace, and so styles of course i'd play into
the background, Okay, we can't get we can't get get
her to give us the necklace. We're gonna have to
steal it. And so I love the lunchroom scene. My
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favorite part about that scene is when he bites the apple,
the apple and the crunch and the like the way
he bites the apple and using the audio of the
apple that's still in Scott's head, whose idea was the apple?
That's that was all Jeff. That was Jeff. Yeah, okay,
that was all Jeff. I was trying to remember the
apples in the script or not if he like the script.
I've got the script. I don't know, and I'm gonna
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look it up right now while you're u The most
organized guest of all podcasts is Tim Andrews. Not just
this podcast. I love it. It's amazing. The thing with
Jeff is that he's so cinematic in his mind. You know,
when he when he writes the scenes, he really you know,
he's he's, you know, directing on on wolf Pack. Now
he took the finale of wolf Pack. Yeah, so he
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um or he writes like a director as well. So
in the script, let me read it to you. Um,
it says Jackson takes a bite of an apple. It
was scripted the crunch, and it's in capitals. The crunch
of teeth into pulp soars towards the room, the sound
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slamming again in capitals at Scott, causing him to WinCE.
When he looks up again, Jackson has set down the apple,
now gazing at Scott with interest. Wow, it was it
was scripted this. I have not read that script. It's
been twelve years, a lot longer for years. Yeah, wow,
it was scripted. Yeah, that's wild anyway, So Jeff is
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so great because you know, whenever we could, we you know,
we everybody was just working so hard to make the
show because like there was no days off there, it
was just h you know. I'd meet him on the
weekends and we walked through the sets and we would
talk talk about the scenes and he was like, I
thought it maybe that there, you know, there would be
here and we could just like so he had he
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had very clear, you know, visual sense of the scenes.
And then um so or sometimes we would walk around
a set and he hadn't written a scene yet and
we would say, okay, we could do this bit here
and this bit here, and then he would write it
so specifically to do that location. Um that that's why
it um it works so well and looks so good
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because often you work on a scripts are written by
somebody who's never seen that location. So in Eric And
and that wasn't the case with Teen Wolf, Like we
didn't have we had a teeny tiny budget, but we
had a group of passionate people making it absolutely. Yeah,
that's what I mean. It was so apparent from just
even the pilot presentation into season one that that was
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the case, and we were just, um, I felt very
lucky to be a part of it. And that's why
I'm overjoyed to be a part of this podcast of
taking everybody down memory Lane, and it's uh, it was
a special show. I've we've both gone on to work
on other projects and I've had the immense amount of fun,
as I'm sure you have as well. But there was
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something about this little engine that could on teen Wolf. Yeah,
and everybody, like you said, there was just such blurred
lines of collaboration and I had no idea that I
guess it would make sense for later seasons, but even
in the season one, of being able to scout a
location and write to that location, yeah, I don't think
that's ever been said it on this podcast before. So
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that it's you asked me earlier and I didn't answer
about the schedule and everything. So what we were very
lucky about was because Russell and I were flip flopping episodes,
so prapping, shooting, prepping, shooting, no brakes, no brakes, but
it but it was great, because I would like, oh
my god, I need to I gotta get the scene
that's you know, at the location you're going to morow
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so I would be able to go and shoot a
scene there for my episode and then he and then
he carry on and what Really that really just saved
us so much money. And in terms of the schedules
for the episodes, you know, they did expand and contract
depending on what was going on, because we never we
never compromised. There was no scene. Sometimes you work on
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shows and you know, you and I bothiness you know,
where people are like, this show is super important. Sorry,
this scene is super important. This scene maybe not so much,
you know, so we'll just sort of get through this
one really quickly. But we none of no scenes were unimportant.
Team Wolf everything. We did everything to the best of
our abilities, you know, and MTV let us do it too.
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It's also a network decision that they were pretty hands
off because they weren't a network that had a lot
of narrative options. I don't know if it was just
not a I don't know what it was. I mean,
justin Levy, he would doubtlessly give notes at the network,
but he's a very cinematically driven person as well. And um,
I think he was a kind of our babysitter and
(27:22):
he kind of let let the kids run loose. Best
kind of babysitting was great. I hope to have him
on this podcast. Yeah, because he was the babysitting that
would say, uh, yeah, you're fine. Right, I'm gonna go
out and see my friends. You're good, You're good for you,
You're gonna be good, right right, shake your head, yes, Okay,
I'll be I'll be I'll be back. Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah.
(27:43):
We were left alone. We were in Atlanta, so that
nobody visited much, if at all, I don't remember now,
just justin and then justin like and I think, you know,
he was really excited. You could really feel his passion
for the show. Um, he felt much more like a
creative producer on the show versus somebody that worked at
(28:03):
the network who was more business oriented. Um. He was
a real creative, a real He was also a collaborator. YEA.
My next question this is the pool. How do we
find the pool? Like, there's that certain smell, there's a
certain look to it. It's just it feels very otherworldly
to me, very submarine esque. And so I love that
(28:24):
you guys shot Alison and Jackson swimming. What was your
goal for that scene? I love how you did it
coming forward. UM, yeah, yeah, we're talking. It was we
shot it several times. Okay, we shot it for this
scene and we also shot it. Do you remember when
um other episodes, right, yeah, when he's a Canama and
he's in like that like that lizard suit thing, and
(28:50):
so my actually a bit of a tangent. I don't
know what episode this was, but by my memory of
that pool was that it's so humid in there, you
know what, like any school pool or whatever. It's this
big box, you know, this this massive swimming pool in it.
And and we've got every department in a boat in
the pool, so like they're all around the edges, so
that you know it was it was this. The number
(29:13):
remembering is when they're in the Colton as the Canamera
is in this plast it was rubber suit and Hecklin
and Dylan I think UM are in the middle of
in the water and they're trying to like stay safe
in the water. UM and and Hecklin I think it
is paralyzed, and Dylan was keeping him afloat. Do you
(29:33):
remember this, Yeah, yeah, but anyway, so I just remember
that because of the humidity, the suit kept getting bigger.
It was like expanding, and um, it wasn't actually Colton
in it at one point because he was lud so
we had somebody else in it, and I was like,
(29:53):
it looks so weird, what's going on with the suit?
And it was just like it was so humid that
it was sort of stretching and getting it was like
melting this guy, I guess, I don't know, but it
had a lot of problems and we were It was
the longest shoot day on Team Wolf history. Really. She
was the Tanima suit in the pool, that pool thing
that we literally I don't know, I don't even want
(30:13):
to remember. I think it was like sixteen hours of
shooting or something even longer, you know, just endless to
get all the shots because and say, we've got everybody
in little boats, so like you know, makeup with her hair, wardrobe,
and everybody had their own. But they would paddle out
to the metal out to them that is funny to
the actors and do something and then they would paddle
back out of the shot. And we had a crane
(30:35):
in there and the crane broke. But then the crane
broke in such a way that actually I thought it
made it cooler, so that I said, I told not
to fix it because the head of the crane like jammed.
I think again, because of the humidity is something expected
it And so it was at this weird angle and
I was like, I think that looks cooler, that looks better.
Let's leave it like that, and so we did. So anyway,
(30:57):
it was filming and swimming pools is easy, but it
looks cool, it looks amazing. Yeah, yeah, you don't see
a lot of pools for high school shows. So I
thought that was fun. That's because every time you filmed
in water, you know, it takes trip all the time
that you know a dry land scene takes to shoot.
Every time you see something wet and teen wolf, there
you go. You can have much more appreciation of what
(31:19):
you're watching. Um. I love that. Um there's there's Scott
obviously looking in the bedroom for it for Alison's necklace.
But what I loved was we cut back to Styles's bedroom.
In the previous Style's bedroom scene, we already had Derek
Hiting and he has the quite funny exchange with his
dad about you know, being at the lacrosse game and
(31:40):
he's so proud of him and he's like, I'm proud
of me too. Um. I think, like I said, I
just Dylan was really fun to watch, um especially and
this was when I think the fandom of Derek and
Styles is truly born. Is Miguel. Um. It was that
just a fun scene to shoot. Overall that, Yeah, it
(32:01):
was fantastic and you know, you know Dylan very well.
So like that. There were many versions of that scene.
We shot many, many takes and everybody the worst who
many shooting like comedy stuff is that takes get ruined
by people laughing like me. You know, everybody behind you'll
hear that you're here here us laughing, and then it
(32:21):
makes the actors laugh. And UM. So that those scenes
there was those were really really really find the edit
maybe hard choosing which, you know, which joke lands the best,
or which you know, sound he's making lands the best. Continuity.
That's the problem because you would do such physical comedy
(32:42):
and you would love it in one shot, but then
when you would cut back to him or somebody else,
I'm not reacting properly to that they're doing a different version.
You know, you can't do the same thing over and
over and every piece of coverage in a scene. So
I think for some of the um the editors, they
would struggle with that, but but it was so it
(33:04):
was it was so good and uh and for Tyler,
you know, for Hecklan um all the different shirts and
we tried on many different shirts, you know in that scene,
you know, like not tired enough, not not not the stripe.
The stripes was great. Barbara will obviously be on this podcast,
but yeah, the striped, the striped, not your color. As
Danny said, it's really funny, It's really great. I loved it.
(33:27):
I think Heckland really enjoyed it because up until then
he just remember him at the beginning was just you know,
you know, he's always just like under a tree in
the woods, right, And so these later episodes was as
the show sort of discovered itself, you know, he um uh,
you know, he got to do this comedy stuff, and
I think he really enjoyed it. Yeah. I love that.
(33:51):
You know, of course you work you worked that comedy
back into the scene of tempting Danny to get information
or to get him to trace the IP address is
a fun a fun narrative, uh, you know, sort of
loop in with with that kind of comedy. Um, now,
I loved. I will ever forget seeing Derek's house for
(34:11):
the first time in the woods and that burned down
set um. From what I remember, was there a different
house and we switched to this house. So they built
something like I remember there was a story what was
behind Derek the backstory behind Derek's house. I think we
saw a certain location and Jeff's like, no build it
or were you always planning on building that? Said? We
(34:33):
were struggling to find um, and so we would go.
We would say to people, we got off on the
wrong foot at the beginning because we would say to people, OK,
we need to find like an abandoned house in the woods.
And I was going off scouting for these these places.
And I remember going one day with like a park
ranger and they would take us into the you know,
(34:57):
into the wilderness to look for these places. And I
was like, I don't know if we can get a
crew all the way out here where there's no roads
and like and then um, you know, we would I
remember standing at one point, We're looking at this derelict
house in the woods, and I look down at my
feet and we're in these like weird like puddles, and
I'm like, what are all these like? Then you look around,
it's like in Jurassic Park when they find the footprint
(35:18):
of a dinosaur, looking around, like, what are these big puddles?
There's like a whole like, um, like ten or twenty
of the same size puddles all around. Oh, that's where
wild boar come. And I'm done. And they roll and
they make these poddies so they're legal and they're very
you know, they're dangerous yea. And I was like, I
don't know if the crew is gonna like that, that's
gonna be that's not gonna be nice for everybody working
(35:41):
if they suddenly they get attacked wild boar attacks of
teen will we changed, we changed tactics and that house
so we ended on which I love. Yeah. Actually, um,
it was a costly mill, right, remember that? Oh? I
remember costly But if you saw Costly Mill on the
on the on the Culte sheet, you just sort of
held your breath because it was a very long drive
(36:02):
and it's gonna be a night shoot and it was
gonna be hard and we would be adding Ryan and
it would be called and it was just gonna be
like and anybody who wasn't at Costly Mill often me
was like, I have fun, you know in those first seasons,
especially though you actually were sad you were not a
part of it, UM, but as a visit that was
a nice thing even you, well you would come on
(36:23):
days that you were about filming me. Yeah, such a
such a great little family that everybody's would just come
to hang out and be there with everybody else. And
as an actor in the beginning, it's like and you know,
as you know with Claire and Lily that you know
their directors and writers and any day that you just
got to go on a set on a Hollywood movie set,
(36:43):
you know, it just was something that was this fantasy
that you know as a as a check a check
from Texas. UM. I had done one show prior to
teen Wolf UM as a series regular and it we
only did six episodes. It didn't go forward. It was
for HBO. UM. It was like a dark comedy. We
were not allowed in video village. UM. It was very
(37:05):
corporately run. I was only a recurring in the beginning.
They could have given two shits about me, and so
you know, I couldn't ask anybody anything. I couldn't step
one foot out of place. Um. So it was a
very different vibe. Um. A great show, um, but but
a very differently run set. So oh to go to set,
(37:26):
I might wait, you're not I can just do to
come on set with me at Video Village every Yeah,
it was fun. I I would like to get more
into producing and where I want to be parked at
Video Village. And I know that's also got to be
a bit stifling sometimes too, though, to be sitting in
a chair. I mean, I know you're up and down,
up and down, but um, you know, it's it's a
(37:46):
lot of looking at a monitor. You guys don't get
enough credit of how much you have to look at
a monitor all day long and then go home and
look at another monitor on a computer to plan for
the next day. Um that's now, you know what, it's
a dream. We're lucky. Yeah, yeah, but it was yeah,
but yeah, so Costly Mill was that where we anyway,
So the reason we landed there was that it had woods,
(38:07):
but it had roads, so that literally we shot all
the woods in the first couple of seasons are there,
and you know, you look at you you know, you
look at a bunch of trees in one direction and
then you just turn a little bit. You could be
in another bottle of the woods. You don't know the
road and it was all just like this big chunk.
This is one chunk there. And they had a barn
(38:27):
on the top of the hill and we created we
added the halehouse to that barn, so the barn held
it up and it was only on the you could
only see it from one angle. Yeah, because if if
you're familiar with Psycho, the Hitchcock film Psycho, um, that's
what they did with that house that you know, you
could only see it when you when you look up
(38:48):
at that house, you can only see it from one
angle because it's got like the front and one side
and there's nothing behind it. And that was the same
as the Halehouse. You know, had this hero angle that
looked fantastic. But um, the side was obviously on stages,
you know, yeah, yeah, it was you know, narratively, it
was fun to watch you take bargein on on Alison
and scare her, and Alison talks about how week she
(39:10):
felt in the school. Um, from Night School a couple
episodes back, and she says, I want to feel powerful.
She starts to question her family a little bit, and
we cut back to Alison's house. Where have you ever
had to question a boy like Argent had to question
Scott with your daughters? Have you had maybe not about werewolves,
but do you have you ever been in that position
(39:32):
of having to um talk to a young man that
your daughter had been dating. I have channeled my inner
Argent on Ah and thought back to that those sort
of scenes, and I've joked I've worked with Jasons on
other shows. Oh which one was a hundred no I
We did a show um in Toronto together called Falling
(39:55):
Water No Way. I didn't know that. And so so
with I'm Walking down. This is years after Team Wolf
has um ended, and he and I we went out
for lunch and we were walking in the streets of
Toronto and this bunch of kids run up to us.
Obviously they recognize him and they're they're from France, and um,
(40:19):
they just was so excited. They just couldn't speak. I
knew that there was about Team Off they were they
were mentioned Team Wolf from who he was and and
they just stood in front of him and cried and
and I I was so loads of things like that
have happened. You know that I've witnessed um many times,
you know, and that's when I realized, you know, like God,
(40:40):
this show was so important, meaningful to so many people
around the world, to young people around the world, you know.
Um and and I love that, you know, Yeah, but
you've never had to you've had a Chiel the interrigin
though I've h Thank God they're smarter than me and
wiser than me. Thank God that you guys raised him. Man,
(41:01):
you guys do it. It just it amazes me that
your your family was the most present on Teen Wolf.
And so that's why it was so fun to watch
Claire and Lily grow up. Um and and like we
said earlier in this episode, they were homeschooled. So um,
I just really admire kids that are homeschooled and the
homeschool model, and Claire and Lily adore learning because of
(41:24):
the way, I believe, because of the way they were
brought up. Thank you very much. Yes, so's I can't.
I shouldn't take any credit for that. My wife Yeah
has did all last have you? So you kept in
touch with all the other cost you're you're old. Well,
(41:45):
So Colton and I lived together for oh my gosh,
almost two years after the show ended. Fantastic. Yeah yeah,
and we live like five minutes from each other now
made five ten minutes and we see each other, oh,
definitely weekly. Um, I'm so happy to hear that. Yeah,
Coulton's one of my best friends. He's I will, I'll
give him your love. It's he's I really do. I
(42:06):
loved all of it. I felt like a dad more
than undirect like that, but but in a great way,
you know, like, yeah, I just felt so protective of
you all because all of you and it was such
a lovely group. You know, I'm crying, you're reminding me
of this, and it's God's him. It was, I mean, Karen,
(42:28):
you know. Also you guys there were so many like
teen wolf moms and dads on set, you know, and um,
it was just the best time. I didn't really get
a traditional college experience as far as like partying goes
or hanging out with everybody. I was working like three jobs,
and Tyler and Dylan didn't even get a college experience,
so this was their college experience and it was just
(42:49):
this like suspended Peter Pan world. We got to go
hang out in for you know, the better half of
a decade, and it was just incredible. So we were
we were all so thankful for everybody, and that's why
the movie meant so much to us, just to come
back and be a part of something that meant so
much to us and so um, you know, I thought
the movie turned out lovely. But even if it does,
(43:11):
it you're like, I don't care. I get to go
hang out with everybody. Like, you know, there's there's what
you make and I've heard some actors talk about this
the podcasts. There's the product you make, and then there's
the experience you have doing it. And those sometimes aligned.
They're directly proportional and sometimes they're indirectly proportional. I've filmed
projects that didn't turn out well and I had such
(43:31):
a blastmaking it. I'd go make it again. I don't care,
And so um. I think I think we were also
really nervous in our twenties. There was a lot of
pressure I think we put on ourselves as individuals. Um
at least I'll speak for myself that that I think
was I wish I could have enjoyed it, maybe slightly
more um in the moment because I was surlivous. Yeah
(43:53):
you need to really, Yeah, I can enjoy it, enjoy it.
Did you know any of the other costs before you
worked on it? I can't remember most of them. I
knew hecklin not I see most of them. A couple
of them. I knew hecklin Um. We were to We've
known each other since when I was in college before
I started acting. Oh wow, uh huh. Yeah. Our best
friends dated for several years, so I knew him. Um.
He was on our kind of same friend group. Um.
(44:16):
And so I'll never forget when he was like on
my audition, forteen Wolf was like, you're auditioning, You're gonna
booke teen Wolf. I was like, you look like a werewolf.
And then he just I've never met anyone that looks
more like werewolf than Tyler hecklin Um. And then the
short of he books it and he uh, the night
before he's leaving, he sees me at the gym and
I said, I'll have fun in Atlanta, And the very
(44:38):
next morning I got the call. So I leave this
message being like, well, I guess I'm heading to Atlanta too. Um,
because I had tested for another show called Scoundrels and
I didn't book it. And when we got the call,
I thought it was four Scoundrels and then turns out
it was four. Um, well that was Scoundrels lost in
our game because you were fantastic. Oh well, and it
(44:58):
was my gaze scoundrels. Last said not even a season,
and and and then I you know, this was this
changed my life. So as a completely different situation, but
as far as the narrative goes or back in Styles
his car and they noticed that there's nothing else on
the necklace's side from the symbol. But so Styles says, okay,
I'm as lacrosse game and he tells them that, um,
(45:20):
he knows what it's for. So Styles gets out of
the car and walks into the hospital. We cut to
lit lacrosse game again. You said you would never even
you didn't didn't even know what lacrosse was before you
started shooting lacrosse. No, but then you would get We
get these lacrosse coaches to come and show us the
plays that the things happened, and it was always said
(45:41):
they were very nice and they were super helpful because
they would help set set everything up and you know
with the players and so forth. Um, but you know
I would always say them, Okay, so I know that's real,
but that's not quite exciting enough for what we need
to do here, you know, so I need people to
it needs to be a far more violent um and
game than you have. And also in addition, we're going
(46:03):
to have some horses riding through this scene too. Okay,
just so just bear with us. And I don't suppose
that the reaction of these lacrosse coaches being like they
were there. They were great. I mean, we had different
people in different places, but they were all thank goodness,
very um gung ho to just give us whatever we
needed because you know, they they understood like on TV
(46:24):
you always have to make everything or movies, um, just
more interesting life is. It's it's life without the boring bits,
you know exactly. Well, I just love the showdown at
the hospital to wrap out this scene. Um that Styles
shows up the hospital. He sees that Derek's uncle's hospital
that is empty, and now Derek is telling Styles to
(46:46):
get out now and that his uncle's the alpha. Styles
hangs up and he turns around and Derek's uncle says,
you must be styles. Uh. How much fun was it
working with Ian Bowen? Ian was great. We did so
like all that's scar stuff on him and that stuff,
and then in a later episode, I remember putting a
bucket of worms on his face, you know, and some
other thing and they're gonna be cg right, and I
(47:08):
was like, oh no, oh, Ian Bowen. I mean, he's
the most he and Jr. But maybe it supplies more
to Ian than Jr. They're such like gruff men, with
such gruff men hobbies, and at the same time they
are so prissy like, like I've never met anyone that
(47:29):
has such you know, you'll probably just be like scowling
at me if he hears me say this, But that's fine.
I don't care. Um, It's true. He's he's such a
just loves the finer things in life kind of guy.
And he bit of course, of course, but it's such
a rough and tumble camper. At the same time, he's
always down. He's very down guy. I mean. And if
(47:51):
you again remember with all those fights m we had doubles,
but we I always always pushed it so that we
had the real actors and as much of it as possible,
So a big, big, big chunk of that um of
that fight. I know he abviously gets the best the
better of it, um, you know, as the real actors
doing it, doing all that stuff. You know, I remember
(48:12):
that set we had. You know, you build these wolves
that are in a dry wall with nothing behind them
so that when they crush somebody into it, you know,
it all collapses. And yeah, yeah, my stunt double broke
her back doing one of those in season four if
you remember, I don't know if you remember Christine, yeah,
being pulled. She had fractured to her bat. Yeah, and
so um in in this insane asylum. Yeah, and I can, yeah,
(48:38):
I can house. Bad things happen there too, bad things
has hackmen and Nike and if that that was on
a set very easy to get to. Yeah, that was
to help I feel bad for her. I didn't I yeah, yeah,
as a director, you don't see some of the other
stuff that happens. I love. I think it's a moment
for for recognizing Adrian Harris and he had such a
big arc um And I love that they came back,
(49:01):
that Jeff brought him back for the movie, because he's
just a really fun guy. His wife has a theater
company UM in Atlanta. And I loved his character. He
was so creepy, like the creepiest chemist chemistry teacher you
could ever come up with. But that you know, he
was involved with the halehouse burning, and he said it
(49:21):
would have been in his teacher's teaching career, but he
knows the woman who did it. Then hands jeffs Lensky
UM a drawing with the same symbol as Alison's necklace. Um.
But I think what I do take away from this
is obviously Jackson saying, like you better, you have three days,
come back, come back with someone to bite me, come
(49:42):
back with your alpha. It's quite the to do list.
And and like you said, Um, I love I just
love Peter Hale. I loved how Ian played him with
such sass and comedy, um and the and he had
so many dynamics anybody he walked into a scene with,
whether it was Tyler Hecklin or myself or Colton, it
was it was always a really fun dynamic when when
(50:03):
he was around, you know, I mean, the dialogue is
so good, and he would he would get great lines,
you know, Jeff wrote great Peter Hale lines. You know,
well for everybody obviously, but but the villain really leaned
into it. Ian did too. He wasn't he didn't throw
them away. He really milked them and really leaned into them.
That's what I love about god best villains. You are
enjoying being a villain. They are they have no they're
(50:25):
not embarrassed about being the villain. They are just living
their life and in their own mind they're the hero
and they're having a good time. And then I think,
you know, the audience enjoys it a lot that way.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, do you have any um takeawaways
from Team Well, if we have a couple of questions
that fans have asked, who were your favorite characters? Which
I know you're not going to choose favorites as kids.
(50:48):
They're all my all my extended family favorite characters. Um wow, well, um,
I loved the comedy of it with you know, with
Dylan's physical comedy. And then you know you mentioned in
that like in that fight scene, you wouldn't normally cut
to the guy that's sort of hiding behind the cupboard
(51:08):
or whatever it is. That's also a good point. Yeah,
we cut to him because there's a moment where he
sticks his head out and it's one shot, and in
that shot you see every part of his body, right,
you see his head, and then his hands come in,
and then his back flips up and then he wriggles
upside down and suddenly his feet or in the in
the frame, and so you see every limb in about
(51:33):
three seconds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, made me a laugh on
the day, like, oh he could he just threw himself
and I'm sure it was painful. I'm sure he hid it,
bumped himself on things, bumby. That man could just bit
himself in a million directions, and he seemed to pop
right up. I don't know if I ever heard him
really complain about a lot of stuff. I mean, I
didn't see him a lot of the weekend, so maybe
he did, but but not that I could hear of.
(51:54):
And then there's a bit in that that I really
love the dynamic between him and Tyler Heckling the because
that's just a comedy. That's comedy gold when you have
a great guy and the funny guy. You know that.
Do you remember when they're in the car and he
hid his head on the on the windshield. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
so um Hecklin came to me and said, do you
(52:16):
think I could just try Walmer, I just you know,
bash his head on the thing. And I just said,
you know, and he I think that was actually his
line as well, you know what it's for, you know,
like they does you know? Why did you do that?
You know, you know why? And they get out of
the car and and and it was you know that
that was sort of an improv little moment there, and
(52:36):
and Dylan went with that and then he bashed his
head on the steering world. It looked so painful, um,
but so funny, you know. And and that was them.
Their little dynamic was great and I enjoyed that immensely.
And then we have another question. This is from Robin
browers One. She asked, did you watch the previous episode
before the one you direct? But really would be were
(52:58):
you put watching he cuts at that point where there
is anything edited? Or did you watch dailies from the
previous episode for your episode? Was there any sort of crossover?
I think is um what we could ask? So I
think the way, well, I wouldn't. I don't think I
would have seen the episode because it wouldn't have been
finished in editing. I think, you know, I would have
(53:21):
been around, so I would definitely been on set while
certain scenes were being shot, because we shot, you know,
I would say, if you're shooting at the school, I
would be going to the school to like scalp for yeah,
you know, the next episode. See where am I to shoot?
Is where I'm gonna put the cameras all that sort
of stuff. So I would have been on set and
I would see, you know, you working with Russell and uh,
(53:42):
and I'd be spying to see what he's up to,
so I can you know from that, that's where you
would get the little bits, so I would steal stuff
from ideas from him, yes, no, and uh. And then
if it was sometimes you get those episodes where like
one thing, you know, you end on a cliffhanger, like
you know, in the middle of a game or something
(54:02):
like that, you know, and then the next episode picks
up that game. So then I would definitely either be
there or watch dailies of that if I was picking
up like the second half of the scene, or I
was yeah, if I was picking up the second half, um,
you know, I mean, so I didn't watch the episode,
I would certainly do sort of you know, I'd make
sure I was aware of what had been shot so
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that it was seamless, so that you know, it will
work well. When we did all the bus stuff, I
don't remember, but we had two buses and literally we
cut them in half. Do you remember that, one together
and one crazy? Yeah, And they were next to each other,
so we used the same lights because we hadn't have
enough lights, so we like lit them next to each other.
And so Russell's directing in one bus and I'm in
(54:45):
another bus next to it right back. One would roar
with the other one setting up and fight something exactly,
and I'd be like, and then Russell's talking while I'm
shooting scenes, you know, with you or whatever, and I'm like, Russell,
shut up, Okay, we're filming. Yeah, I got I gotta
hear Hollands. Oh my gosh, how many times do we
have to hear guys were filming on the other side,
and and you had to be quiet, and your setups
and and and all of the grips having to move,
(55:09):
the governor, the grips having to move around. You know.
It was it was a lot on the crew. It
was a lot. It was fun, but it was just
it was fun chaos, you know, and and then it
was at ya, everybody ever here, come unto this bus
and did you get that bus? Now? You know? And
it was a lot of that sort of stuff, which
which uh, you know, at the time, seemed like Bedlin.
(55:29):
But I look back on it very Every memory I
have from Team Wolf is very, very happy, and I'm
very uh grateful and proud of being a part of it.
Oh well, my last question for you, what is your
favorite experience? And this is coming from Leally La La
Zero's favorite experience when working with the cast members. I
(55:54):
think I love what I think, all right, So my
favorite thing was when you were all together. I think
I think you loved the Scooby Doo Gang. Yeah, okay,
there's always that you know, you're you're scared because you're
being you know, stalked or attacked or whatever. And then
there's something you know, there's funny dialogue in it, and
then there's the chemistry. I think that's why I love.
(56:16):
I love the chemistry between you lot you know, you
and the others, right, And I always remember one of
my favorite episodes was one when you it was called
night School and you were stuck in the school, you know,
And and that was just fun because literally it's just
this Scooby Doo gang running from one building to another
building or through the school and trying to get away
(56:37):
and trying to stay alive, and and just the dynamics
between all of you. Because what we got lucky with
on this show was the chemistry between the cast. You know,
like the shows that people talk about and that run
for a long time, like Friends or whatever. Um, when
people in the audience loves the cast, When when the
cast get along and love each other, you know, and
(56:58):
in real life, and and you were just such a
great team. I always used to look forward to the
scenes when all of you were together fighting something, fighting, snapping,
fighting each other, and just like comedics, sort of like
banter and the inner fighting, then the bigger fights we
had to go fight was was quite the conundrum in itself. Yeah,
(57:21):
or snapping in between each other. Yeah, that's lovely. Yeah
it was. And it's it's fun for you to say
that because those were not the easiest scenes to shoot,
but you definitely something else was then added to the
script with that that feat that the energy just lifted
off the page and you could feel that energy and yeah, yeah,
you were all having a good time, and I think
that translated to the audience. It's the first time I've
(57:44):
worked in Hawaii, so it's yeah, it's a spinoff of yeah,
previous NCIS shows that CBS makes. Yeah, that's the great thing, right,
we get to go to different places and working different
So you and I are lucky. Well, I'm excited that
(58:10):
we just got to chat and I got to see
you guys, and seeing clear and at the premiere was
such a delight. Oh my gosh. They were the exact same.
They're just fully, fully fledged like young women, and they've
always been so mature for their age, but there was
it was just really cool to see them, like Wit,
you're like an adult adults. Now, this is very strange,
(58:32):
but you guys are obviously such a close family. The
lines got so blurred. They really thought of you lot
as their older siblings. They were they because you know,
everybody's together every day, all day of years, so for them,
they were. And it made me laugh because they would
always go up to you know, all of you and
just ask They would just talk to you as if
(58:52):
you were their older brother or sister. Oh yeah, that's
the only classroom they ever attended with. That's funny. They're
high school diploma is from Beacon Hills High School and
it's signed by you know, like on that thing on
one of those diplomas it has like the principle and
yeah or whatever, and it's so Jeff Davis, Russell, Mulka,
(59:13):
joj the four of us signed that their high school diplomas,
and so they're the only kids that survived Beacon Hills
High School, the only kids in addition to us. Technically
jury is still out. That's funny. I had no idea
they even did that. That's hilarious. They got to be in,
they got to be actors in the show, so they
(59:34):
were let's give them a shout. What's their next moment?
So they had the first film that they made is
called Maximi and bought by Amazon so you can stream
it on They were telling you about that yet and
they shot it on the old Team Wolf stages, yes,
and you know, like it was amazing. So it was
kind of crazy being back and rebuilding Team Wolf. Fans
(59:57):
knew this. The diehards know about your poor family. Uh
but uh, but yes, I knew it was But I
don't know if everybody else did, and so I love
that they got to do that. Yeah, it was fantastic.
We when we uh, when we got had to evacuate
because of the fire into Panga and we stayed overnight
(01:00:18):
at the Team Wolf. No you did not. We had
all these animals and I was like, I don't know
where to take all these animals and and oh my god,
I can use the I can use them the cells
in the Iken House and put like, no you did not.
Are you serious? Do you have pictures of this tib um?
I don't literally really might have it. It was. It
(01:00:38):
was a very chaotic night and we so we we
would walk into the stages in the dark. I didn't
know where the lights were, and um, and we put
all the animals and the dogs and everything. Oh you
did that is hilarious. I had no idea. Yeah, and
we spent the night there. Um, we haven't sleep in
Iken house. I'm not just put the animals that we
(01:01:00):
can just shut him in there and and well we'll
sleep on couches summer and so, oh my gosh, I
had no idea. What's so crazy? It's a funny old night.
But you see, Team Wolf is saving lives. Even now. Literally,
Oh well, I hope you'll come back for season two
(01:01:20):
if you if you so care to and and chatter
about another episode. You're our most organized. I'm not shocked
by that. I was so happy. I was like, I
haven't seen you in so long, and it's so lovely
to see you. I know, such a such an important
televisionhow I mean, for all a lot of my family's life,
(01:01:43):
and for everybody in it, and for so many people
that I still meet, you know when just just walking
down the street, when I just bump into people and
they talk about it. It's uh. It was amazing how
important this show, this little show that we went off,
this little group of us went off to Atlanta to
make and well done do it. It was this your
idea to do this podcast? It was yeah, you get Jeff,
(01:02:06):
he's doing Oh yes, he was either the first episode.
Oh fantastic, Yeah, yeah he was. I had an idea.
He was an it guy for like six years that Fox. Yeah, yeah,
I had no idea. I was like, wait, what So
he's one of those genius guys that can do you
know that that just can do anything and their brains
work a level of mine does not. Oh you guys
(01:02:28):
are all really intelligent. We felt really in just good
hands with you guys. It was was quite a good time.
And and just knowing you know, uh like Kate um,
you know with Jill Jill Wackner, that character and her
being embodying that character came through Toby Wilkins, and she
had just done a movie with him, and so that's
why she was on teen Wolf, like just hearing everybody's backstory.
(01:02:49):
Um shell, I got to do the movie episode. Yeah, yeah,
that's how she came on. And then um, so it
wasn't for Toby Wilkins in the first season, we would
not have Kate. You know, Kate Argent as Joe Joe.
He was great. She had and she again somebody else
who was just like she just loved it. Such a
fun villain, right, she really she really does a great
(01:03:10):
job and being like that older, bigger sister. She's like
kind of a big sister slash aunt you know to
to Alison, and she she ran that line really well.
I thought. I remember shooting a scene with her when
she just had to shoot a shotgun through the roof
of a car that she was in another rent another
rental that we gave back, you know, step far to it.
(01:03:31):
Oh my god, above her. That was so funny, so funny.
Oh well, thank you so much for taking the time, Tim,
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