It’s No Joke (w/ Orny Adams - S1, E6)

Coach Bobby Finstock is in the den! He reveals how he was discovered doing stand-up comedy and admits to a major lack of preparation when it came to filming of the show. 

Plus, wait until you hear what Orny thinks he did that affected his story lines in a negative way.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is holler Back Now with me Holland Roden and
I Hunt Radio Podcast. Hey everybody, welcome to Hellerback Now.
I'm Holland Roden and today we are going to be
discussing episode six from season one called Heart Monitor, and
it is none other than Bobby Finstock coach himself. Ornie

(00:24):
Adams and his beautiful Yeddie Microphone are both joining us today.
I feel I feel like we were just talking. Why
would we feel that way? Why welcome? Thank you for
joining us than you? Are you aware of what the
show teen Wolf is? I believe Teen Wolf the TV

(00:46):
show ran on MTV for one hundred episodes. It was
then on Netflix, It's been on Hulu. I think it's
been all over the world. The people in Brazil love
it more than probably any other country. It's a show
that defines my life. It's a show I can't go
anywhere without being recognized. Drives me nuts. More people know
me from Teen Wolf than from my stand up comedy.

(01:07):
I know. It's what's brought us together today. Oh, we
appreciate you coming on. So the reason I was having
you on for Heart Monitor this episode is because, if
you'll remember correctly, this was your heart monitor that Styles
takes and your phone. But we'll get into that right now.
I want to take you back to the beginning, to Lexington, Massachusetts.

(01:28):
When is the last time you were in Lexington? I
go all the time, you go all the time. Is
a town or a city? What is it? Yeah, it's
a town. It's thirty thousand people. It's the birthplace of
American liberty. It's where the shot was heard around the world.
It's where the Revolutionary War started. And we would every
year in April go down to the town green and
they would recreate it. And unfortunately we lost. The Americans

(01:51):
lost in Lexington, but went on to win the war
and we ended up breaking away from it was our Brexit,
we left England. And you have two sisters both Norman's
not not in program or the business. Wow, Holland, you
did your research. I had you on my podcast. I said,
I know nothing about her. I've known nothing about her
for the twelve fourteen years we've worked together. I'm gonna

(02:13):
keep it that way. And look at you out researching me. Yeah,
have two sisters. I didn't even know you were from Dallas.
Two sisters. They're normal. What do they do? They have kids,
are they funny? They they're like administrative teachers in school.
They're administrators, very private. One sister doesn't like me to
talk about her or family. The other sisters more okay

(02:35):
with it, okay, and they both have kids. And you
are absolutely crazy on Corney. The kids don't really like me.
I mean, we'll be on. My niece calls me all
the time. She's in college, and she'll call me when
she runs into teen Wolf fans. I was gonna say
she had teen Wolf. She had teen Wolf error, No,
I don't think so. Okay, Yeah, how old is she?

(02:55):
She's a freshman in college. She's a little little old.
Maybe you know, not that there's not fans in college,
but but but yeah, usually it was like a high
school heart of high school kind of thing. Sometimes I'm
doing shows, like in Sarasota last week, and there was
a guy older than me, a Team Wolf fan, and
I just looked at him. I said, you're pathetic, oh
or any that's not our demographic you. I once had

(03:17):
a really big tated guy come up to me in
like a dark corner at like one o'clock in the
morning at Lebray in Hollywood, and I was eating fuh
in this little shopping center and he came out of
like the interesting massage parlor at the end of the
strip away and it was it was ironically not I
in O and uh and yeah. He was like, I'm
a big Team Wolf fan. You're like, you never know,

(03:38):
you never know. Yeah, I'll say this, and I bet
you agree with me. One hundred percent of the time,
somebody at TSA recognizes you. Yes, the workers not one
hundred percent, but you. You You travel almost every week for
for comedy. How has Team Wolve ever made it into
your comedic sets? It is now? It is now, it
is now. What was your last Team Wolf joke? Do

(03:58):
you remember? I know what I do it? It's on
stage about getting an oil change at Valvoline Oil and
what happened? You got to pay to see the joke?
Oh you don't even give teasers. No, okay, it's a
fun joke about being recognized without What I don't like
is when comedians get up there and they make it

(04:19):
about themselves. So you you went to Emery, you were
in philosophy and polysy major. Why why comedy? Like, how
did that happen? Did a deep dive Wikipedia on me?
Deep dive Wikipedia. I was able to rehole four whole paragraphs.
I was doing stand up comedy in college in Atlanta.
In Atlanta, and then when I graduated, I just I

(04:43):
couldn't find a job. I had a degree in the
economy was really bad and I ended up. I was
doing stand up. I was making more doing stand up
than if I had a full time job. And uh,
we're getting an amber Amber alert. Let me just it's
a flash flood. My mom my mom texts. She said,
I hope you have a flashlight and a shovel and

(05:04):
and I thought, I, when do you talk? I think?
I thought, did I murder somebody? And she said, no,
they're expecting snow out there. Oh I don't think. Well, actually,
you're kind of in the Hollywood sign like elevation wise,
you might you might snow. This is the podcast where
it's snowed in LA. That's If that's not a memorable moment,
I don't know what it is. We had sleep yesterday

(05:24):
with this just full on hail hitting hitting my front,
my friend's front already. Yeah, isn't there somebody on teen
Wolf with the last name Hale? There was there was
People say, I don't know the show. I know the show.
You got there quicker than I did. There was more
multiple hailes on the show, multiples, And we learned on
my podcast, I have no clue what your character's last name.

(05:47):
We're gonna debut Lydia. He thinks it's McIntyre mccowski, but
it's Martin. Okay, that sort of not even a sheer
ounce of recognition. Yeah, if I never yelled Martin, shut it,
then why would I know exactly exactly? So, you were

(06:08):
making more money doing stand up still am, and then
that's so you just kind of kept going with it.
It was like something that you just tried out and
kept going. Well, I want to say this. You know,
I knew I was going to be in show business
from a young age. I knew I was going to
be expressing myself in a comedic way. And when I
started doing stand up, it wasn't like it is now.

(06:29):
There weren't so many avenues. You were doing it because
you felt a sense of it was who you were
and not sort of to get somewhere. And now it's
very sort of I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna get
a show, I'm gonna start a YouTube channel. I'm gonna
I'm gonna sell merchu. Yeah, I wasn't the pioneer that

(06:50):
Lenny Bruce or even Jay Leno in that generation which
didn't have comedy clubs. They were performing at strip clubs.
Really yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, I had comedy
club but like we all knew each other. It was
a small, small community. How much fun was it back?
And like what we what years are we talking? Nineties? Yeah,
I gotta tell you something. It was so pure, so

(07:12):
fun comedy in Boston and in New York. You didn't
think about what do you wear, You didn't think about
a development deal. You were just getting up there being funny.
You weren't worried about being canceled or saying something well recorded,
Yeah we're being recorded. It was different times, and I mean,
would you guys be up to like five o'clock in
the morning, like it's some what's the place you went

(07:33):
to in Boston or what's the restaurant you went to
in New York? Like what where do you remember? No?
I mean I did show Like in New York, I
would do some weekends. I did twenty two shows in
a weekend on a weekend. That's crazy. I go stand
up New York Comic Strip Seller. You're not doing a
like a come down at the end of the night.
It's some diner we would usually my last show would

(07:53):
be at the Comedy Seller. I'd have to go on
after Dave's Chappelle No Walk every night. Yeah, and David
tell you know, really strong comics, which made me stronger.
And then we'd eat upstairs. They paid me in food.
I was paid in food in those days. And you know,
much like Teen Wolf, I didn't really hang out. I
didn't hang out. I never hung out with comics and

(08:15):
I never really hung out with the Teen Wolf cast.
I know you guys went out, but I can't. If
I stay out, my eyes will look worse than they look.
If I have a drink, I'll look worse than I look,
you know, and I'm too vain. Then the vanity, the
vanity keeps you pure and locked up in your apartment. Well,
you travel, what would you say, fifty times a year?

(08:38):
Forty times a year? Yeah, I mean easily sometimes. You know,
when I was shooting Teen Wolf, and I think this
was very generous of Jeff and the producers. They would
allow me to leave shoots and go do shows. So
I remember season one when we were doing that prom
scene or dance. Yeah, yeah, I remember when all Russell
was directing it. Yeah, went all night was something you

(09:01):
kept saying, I gotta go, I haven't light to catch Yeah,
and then I would. I left. I flew to Seattle,
did a private show, and then flew back and continued
shoot it. And it was at the point where if
somebody wasn't at the airport holding a sign that said
Ornie Adams or coach, I didn't know where. I didn't
know what city I was in. I didn't know what
hotels I was staying in. But if you favorite, do

(09:23):
you have a favorite comedy club? I love so many
I love. I was in Chicago last month and that
seats about six hundred people, and I've been going there
for so many years, and I see the same faces
over and over. You know, Like a couple came up
to me one year and they were on a blind date,
and then a few years later they came back and
they were married, and then a few years after that

(09:44):
they had a kid, then another kid, and it just
made me realize how little I got done in that
exact time frame. Well, I think that there's a there's
different ways of looking at it. There's different perspectives of
how much you're getting quote unquote done, you know what
I mean. And Moore is not always better. It's just different.
That's what I've learned. I'm thirty six and barren and childless.

(10:07):
I'm actually I'm not barren, but I'm child You're actually
very young. And I did learn something about you, Miss Martin.
I know nothing about you, but you're an outdoorsy person.
You're an adventurer. Yes, unlike Lydia. Yes. Yeah, I guess
I probably thought you were more like your character. No,

(10:35):
I have a question. Ornie Adams takes the third Comedy
Central special. He had one or two prayer to that.
I had Path of Most Resistance was my first one
to twin and then takes the third and now and
more than I was in seventeen, but takes the third
was in twenty I'm wondering if that's where Jeff saw you,

(10:56):
because that was the same year we did the Team
Wolf pilot. Yeah, he had seen me. Jeff can tell
the story. He tells the story differently than when he
told it to me. Initially I believe, but he had
seen me in a documentary and this is the sign
fund one. He wasn't sure if I was funny or not,
and he thought he probably he probably thought it wasn't funny.
So he saw my name on the marque at the

(11:16):
improv in Los Angeles on Melrose, and he went in
to watch me suck and I was funny. I was
remarkably funny. And he would come over and over again
with his friends. Oh, he just became a fan of
yours as a comic. Yeah, and then he ended up
hiring me. He said he wrote the character of Coach

(11:37):
based on my stand up. I believe that it's seamlessly
the way you yell at Greenberg seamlessly fits in there.
Green We should we should tell everybody who Greenberg is today.
Finally it is discussed in the movie. Is it by me? Yeah? Yeah?
Oh yeah, Do I say who it is? I think
you do? Well? You're Greenberg? You know? Is he got

(11:59):
held back a number of years because Greenberg is still
on the little cross Field. Oh okay, so we're going
to take you through the episode. So just strap in. Yeah, um,
I will say this. We know what my reputation is
with reading the scripts and for the lack thereof Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(12:20):
I'm not the best student of this show. That's where
I'm going to give you story time and we're gonna
gather around. Let's do it. So this was called Heart Monitor,
and we brought you on because you are the center
of this episode as far as maybe not presence on screen,
but you actually have a very serious monologue in this episode.
Do yeah, you do. It's it's You're almost always funny,
and you still managed to be funny in this episode,

(12:42):
but it's it's one of your more intense episodes. Wow,
you know you in the classroom beading Scott about the
reading the reading assignment. Oh yeah. So it starts with
running through the parking lot and Scott's jumping from car
to car to car, and he's someone you know, there's
a creature that's after him. This is a werewolf show,
by the way, I'm not sure you're you are aware.
Well let's start there, because I thought it was. But

(13:05):
then there's ban cheese and low keys and there's no Loki's.
That's just the bracelet that we got in a Paramount
plus gift basket that on Ornie's podcast, What's Wrong with Ornie?
Adams that you guys need to go check out with myself.
He was saying that this bracelet we got in this
gift basket. He goes, I thought Loki l O k
Ai was a creature and a character in the show

(13:28):
The Branches. The bracelet, that's just a hippie name for
this bracelet. No, I thought it was like a gift
because there were teen Wolf, Like I'm wearing the socks
and I just thought it was another teen Wolf gift. Wait,
are you in your socks right now? I am wearing
can you show them on on the on screen? This
is how flexible Ornie Adams is. Boom right there? How
great is that? Right? And then they ships, No, they

(13:51):
say teen Wolf lacrosse, Beacon Hills Lacrosse. It was either
this or a knapsack. Hold on, I'll take it off
that every gift basket is a backpack, and it is true.
That's so great. We're thinking on the bottom. They have
this stuff because I have hardwood floors so I don't
slip around. I love it. Oh have you won those

(14:11):
at a show yet? No? No, these are around the
house flying Internationally, these would be worn. But it's the
best gift. The low key bracelet. I don't I don't
need I was not. I'm more of a socks girl. Um,
I ronically don't like socks, but when it comes to
like cold weather and walk around the house, I love socks.
So in this particular episode, he's jumping from Cardo car

(14:32):
and he gets trapped by Derek, and Derek was testing him.
So the werewolves, you know, if you're sort of the
more superior werewolf or any you will test the younger
werewolf and he's scared. Derek is scared that Scott is
gonna have trouble turning. I don't mean to interrupt it.
I do feel like we should maybe have a moment
of silence for Derek. Who yeah you this You've mentioned

(14:56):
this several times today, Arnie. No, I just can't believe
they killed Derek. Believe it's yeah for you are the
most passionate about this storyline for someone who did not
watch the movie. Why would they kill Derek? Why would
they kill Derek? Scheduling? Derek held held Beacon Hills to

(15:17):
get scheduling. I don't know fee you know he scheduling?
You know reason you keep your feel low, You're gonna
stick around Beacon Hills a lot longer. Ry Rny are
still here. Yea, that's exactly what. No, my love for
Derek is that the fans were outraged that he was
killed and they're gonna they're never gonna watch this show again.

(15:40):
That they hate Jeff Davis like Jeff got a lot
of unnecessary hate for how much Jeff Jeff really cares
about what he writes. Yeah, and what you don't understand
is if certain characters don't return to the show, it
might be because they were unavailable, or they didn't want to,
or they couldn't afford them, or for whatever reasons. It's

(16:01):
a business. It's a business, and you can't say, Jeff Davis,
I hate you for killing Derek or Crystal or whatever,
like there's he's not just killing out a spite. And
also that you know it's not. It is a business,
and you know it's it's a really tough situation when
you love something. I don't feel like it's fair to
to to go after the writer or go after the

(16:22):
to the actors either. I mean, you have to understand
that those are human beings that have their reasons of
wanting to do something in their life, and we don't
live in their shoes every day. You know, the guys
teach their own. I always teach their own. So now
what you should be upset about is why Coach wasn't
in more episodes and have more of a storyline. That's
something you should be outraged by. I'll bring Derek back.

(16:45):
Y'all are upset Derek died in a movie where we
brought a character back that died in season three. The
guys are a little you know, we'll bring them back
like if all of a sudden, Derek has no career,
And trust me, Derek, I'm what I'm talking to you.
Heckling right now, it can end like that. He'll be
reborn in Beacon Ill. I was always fascinated when we

(17:11):
did fun stuff with cars, like when there's car crashes
or running on top of cars. Did you know the
stunt double of Tyler Posey was this guy named Spider.
Do you remember Spider? Yes? I do, he didn't, Okay,
So Spider was I don't know if we've ever talked
about on this podcast. So Spider is definitely worth mentioning.
He went on to be like one of the number

(17:31):
one stunt doubles in the business. He was Spider Man.
He did like a lot of those Marvel movies. He
really blew up after Teen Wolf. But he was the
only guy that I knew that would jump two and
three stories high with no patting and he would just
stick these spider type werewolf stances and look up. And

(17:52):
I remember Russell was fascinated with him, and he spoke
very little English but Portuguese. He's Brazilian. And he showed
up and he just holds his phone out to me
and he was like, look, look, and he's just park
hooring all over the hotel room where it was staying.
He was like park hooring, like like jumping off the
walls and the ceilings and then triple flipping from the

(18:12):
corner of the ceiling to the to the floor. And
he was like, it was hilarious that he was like
legitimately a spider and that's why they nicked in him Spiders.
So I don't know if he was the one stunt
doubling for Scott. I think he was. Think he did
it all season for the first season and then we
lost him to the huge tent pole movies. But rightfully so,
he's an incredible it stunt double. But yeah, so I

(18:33):
think Spider might be the one that actually jumping from
car to car, but I would be curious to see
if Tyler was the one doing it. Um. So, yeah,
Derek pens them. He's like, you're dead. Have you ever
been have you ever gotten a fight? Have we been
pinned by a guy? You know? When I was like
in elementary school, you would get in like physical brawls.
Not really, I'm not a physical guy. Not a physical guy.
I used comedy to get out of fire. I was

(18:53):
gonna say the comics. The comics have different chtities. Yeah, run,
I'm a runner. I've never been in a physical fight.
Tackle Jeff Davis one time you did? Yeah, I did,
like to the ground. Yeah, I took him down. I
took him down. Was he was? He like laughing? You know?
But we did have a push up contest one one
he definitely won. No, we didn't. What you won? He

(19:14):
has got He is a worker, outer man, m all
for show. I'm og it's all show. Those big muscles
that he has are all show. He Um, do you
know he wears pants? He pants his pants and stuff
like that. The rear end and yeah, I think that's
just called successful Pomp Springs writer. I think he. I

(19:37):
think I noticed Jeff Will often in the FX trailer
getting you know, made Up and pext On, and it's
part of his contract that that Eric Horn and Chris
that the special effects guys they can't they can't give
away the secrets. But Orney knows. This is why he's
on the podcast. I'd love to tackle Jeff though. I
think that'd be funny. I don't know what he would do.
I think he should go. I'm not sure how I

(19:59):
want to take that sentence. This is probably what Jeff
would say. I am profoundly upset that you tackled me. Ornie. Yeah,
he'd be like, didn't see that coming. Yeah, He's just
such a funny guy. So Derek's really worried that Scott
is going to have a hard time turning or he
can't control the turning, like like when you turn in

(20:20):
a supernatural show, you go from human to werewolf or
human to creature. Yeah, yeah, you were never you never
had prostetex once on the show, did you? Yes? I did? Oh,
we win think about it. Oh my gosh, were you burned?
Were you owe the stone? Did you turn a stone
or shot with an arrow good for you? Yes, see,
you do remember the show? And then in between I

(20:43):
remember that and I had an arrow coming out of me,
like out of my chest, and it was really they
really put it in there and it was very sturdy.
And so at lunch I took the paper towels and
I put it on my arrow, and I let people
I became a paper towelarg dis Spencer, Oh my god. Yeah,
anything to try and get fired on that show. Where
do you remember the chocolate chip cookies they were so good? Well,

(21:06):
I remember Joe the producer. I was gonna say Joe
ordered a whole platter of chocolate chip cookies during say
he does. It's bizarre. He eats a lot of sugar
for being as then as he is. Yes, I'd like
to tackle Joe too. We're gonna line them up. This
is gonna football team. By the end. I'll let them know.
I think Joe and Carret will hopefully be on sooner
than later. I will let them know. There's a tackle

(21:27):
invitation for Edorney Adams House. So the next scene is
Scott Nowison making out and Jill. Do you remember Joe Wagner, Yeah,
she was great, Hey, Argent yeah, so, she she interrupts
the makeout session. You've never had to kiss anybody on
screen before. I have no storyline. I just yell at people.
That's all I do. This is the only narrative job.
I think it goes without saying. I don't think i've

(21:48):
mentioned this technically on record, is that this is the
only narrative job you've done outside of being a comic.
I mean, the only acting I've done, the only acting. Yeah,
well I wasn't funny people the movie? Did you played yourself? Yeah,
it doesn't count. Doesn't count. Character? Huh, Bobby's the only
one that lives with you in your head. It's very

(22:08):
sad now that I think about it, and yet I
want to tackle the person that hired me. Well, Ornie,
you have enough personalities living in your head that you
don't need more characters. That's how that works. Um. Did
you ever have a scene with Jill without with Kate Argent?
I don't think I did. With Jill. I don't think
you did. You guys did either? That would have been
such a fun face off because you both are so sassy.

(22:29):
Yeah that was I finally had a scene with Derek
and then they killed them you're very You're very protective
of Derek kle I love you. It really upsets me.
You don't care. He's too good looking to die. He's
a good looking guy. He's a good looking guy. It's
not a sweetheart, really, he really. Yeah, we are best friends.
Dated for two and a half years in college. So
they set us up on a blind date. And who

(22:50):
want to blind date? Tyler Hecklin and I what I've
told the story so many times, but I don't think
I've ever told this to you. Why, but why wouldn't
you say this on my podcast? You're saving all the
good You're so calculated, you're very loquacious on your own,
you have great questions. Loquacious sponsor. I have never even
heard this a word before. Loquacious. That's a good word. Um,

(23:12):
we're talking about you at all my good stuff. I
got to talk about like rock climbing in the van,
my my qualm with corporations. Yeah, yeah, this is just
ten wolf over here. So during that scene there was

(23:34):
Labette Dan that, um, they were learning about their history
and so you know, this is like mid makeout session.
Alison pushes him in the closet and God's learning through
the eyes of the audience by peering in through the closet,
you know, slats, seeing that Kate Argent is talking about
the family history and argentan I was gonna say, and

(23:57):
then what kills were wolves? Ornie I read like there's
a there was a silver bullet at one point, too right,
and that's you get. You're given one silver bullet in
the Argent family and then something has to happen with it.
But you know it's interesting is I thought that this
was real and that the real myth because there is
a real myth in French mythology about you know, silver

(24:19):
killing werewolves and the silver bullets, you know mythology. And
Jeff when they named them Argent, He's like, oh, because
it was the family that killed the werewolves and Argent
means silver. I thought that was like real. I thought
he had taken it from like mythological French books, and
you know, no, he he made it up. The Argent

(24:40):
part of like, okay, the family that kills werewolves. His
name Argent and that means silver. He's the one that
connected that. It wasn't like silver killing werewolves was already
out there. I mean, it's not a big stretch but
they mean name them Argent. I know, but I thought
that was such a creative writing aspect because I was like, oh,

(25:01):
I thought that was just the real history. He's like, well,
I mean to me, it sounds like Jeff did one
Google search and just stole a bunch of facts and
made a ton of money off from my back, That's
what it sounds like to me. That's getting part of
the tackle invitation. M m. That's gonna be before three
year post tackle. And he'll deny that he lost the

(25:21):
Porshaw contest, but he lost the porschew contest. We I
think we have it on video somewhere. We're gonna just
add him when this podcast comes out of who won
the pushup contest? He knows I probably have it on
my iPhone three that you still owe. Yeah. Probably. So
at that point, you know Scott's scared list because he's like, oh, great,
my girlfriend, her nass name is Argent. The reason it

(25:44):
is Argent is because she kills werewolves. And there's a
long history of the Argent's killing werewolves, and that's what
Kate's telling Allison. So at that point, cut to Scott
running in the woods. Derek's Derek's always showing up at
the most awkward times. We're like Scott's you know, free
get out, and Derek's always showing up. You know, he
deserved to die, just jump scaring everybody or dump scaring

(26:06):
our protagonists. Yeah. Yeah, Well basically there's a spiral underneath
his Do you remember Laura Hale since you're so close
to the Hale clan, Laura Hale is Oh, oh, I
know her. She's very nice. What was her name, Well,
that's that's Adelaide. That was a different one. Oh, Laura Hale.
That was a cousin. Laura Hale was a sister, and

(26:29):
she was buried underneath the spiral. Remember the triscala that
like swirly thing. No, no, nothing, Oh whoa. Some people
have a tattoo of that thing, Yes they do. Yeah,
so that's the swirly thing that that she's buried under.
I hope they don't grow to regret getting that tattoo.
I often wonder when people get tattoos, ever, do they
regret them? And Posy loves it. He wants to be

(26:50):
fully tatted. I mean you can change them if you
regret them. You can kind of morph tattoos Sometimes but
the triscala. I wonder what you can morph too, maybe
a snail um. So yeah, they're trying to kind of
decipher what's this like swirly thing me And that's what
Scot's trying to figure out. And here's where you come in, Ornie,
because I know we're losing you slowly. Finally Ornie enters

(27:10):
in the sense that when Scott and Styles are catching
up and Scott's like, yeah, Derek wants to change me,
and He's like, no, I want to change you. And
it becomes this weird bromance triangle thing where Styles is like, no,
I'm going to help you control your changing and I
stole du Da da da coaches iPhone and coaches heart monitor.
But why does coach of a heart monitor? I'm young,

(27:32):
I'm healthy, I'm vigrant. That's another qualm, you know what?
This is becoming quite the therapy session for you and Jeff, No,
you need to bring up why you apparently run with
a heart monitor. I was like, that's what I kind
of thought. I was like, wait, does is there an
underlying health condition with with Coachman's dock. I finally have
a semi storyline and it just shows Jeff and the
writer's hatred from me, the ageism that's going on in

(27:56):
teen Wolf. Yeah, I mean for store, Can I tell
you what happened? I beat Jeff Davis in a push
off contest and to get back at me, he decides
to write in a heart monitor there. Yeah. Yeah, And
that's literally the whole It's named heart monitor because Styles
puts the heart monitor in the lacrosse field on Scott
and he goes, how are we gonna, you know, know

(28:17):
what it's reading? And he goes, why I have the phone?
He goes, he took coaches phone too. He's like, yeah,
to coach his phone. So somewhere in this episode, you
have no phone, no heart monitor. You're completely naked and
raw and vulnerable. You're not aware of that. I don't
notice that my phone is missing. This isn't addressed. And
multiple scenes and you Scott Styles, he even has your

(28:37):
phone in a scene with you, and you don't know
the phone's missing. Feels like sloppy writing to me, Oh
my gosh, you are Yeah, this is uh. This is
at the beginning of social media. We talk the most
hyper vigilant cast member or like character on the show.
Nothing gets by finn Stock knows everything, but the own's missing.

(29:01):
Like I'm not you know what I mean, Like I'm
not all of a sudden, I'm going three hours without
checking my Tinder account. It's more like it's more like
a half day. Yeah, half day without tender. Yeah, I
know a lot of holes, a lot of the holes.
So at that point, Jackson sees it. This isn't really
pertain to you, but Jackson has this is the episode.

(29:22):
I doubt you would know about this. But when his
mouth opens and a claw comes out, you remember this? Yeah, okay,
because Russell was really excited about this stunt, so to speak,
special effect. Yeah, and uh and so that was that
episode where it crawls out of him. And uh, I
mean I kind of feel like, as a comic you
metaphorically have a claw coming out of your mouth all

(29:42):
the time. No, Jackson does not me Jackson really. By
the way, here's a little trivia. I bet your fans
don't know this. I would love to know this. Jackson
drove a Porsche, yes, dials a Jeep. That was good. Yeah, people,
I know the shouldn't um And oh here's a fun

(30:05):
fact for you. Do you know whose Porsche that was
in real life, I would say it's Russell's yes, yes,
a plus yes uh Russell, Yeah, yeah Russell. You know,
I call him the Australian Ozzy Osbourne. He's just the sweetest,
the sweetest, coolest and he's always just giving some random

(30:28):
you know, just stinger, just hilarious. This is any acting, uh,
because they know not to. They had one director. I
used to try and talk, you know, give me direction,
who Toby, Tim Tim, because Toby directed this episode. But Tim, yeah, Tim.
He was much more methodical than than Russell was in

(30:49):
his approach. Russell would give the best because Russell would
come up to me and he just say he got
if he got all over there and then when you're coming,
you're coming like and you're doing and then this sky
comes in like and then you know a little lower
lower and they go Ornie right right, it's good, it's good, right,

(31:09):
right right. You know, he's just he's just it's such
a technical director and his episodes are beautiful. I mean
he did Highlander in the eighties, you know that. Yeah,
he's a legend and his brain he could come up
with no shot list and just he did a big
prom night scene like any of these big, kind of
big fight scenes that that was usually Russell's forte. I

(31:31):
don't know how they do that. I really don't how
they see it. They see what it's going to turn
into it, and Russell really can't. He he came in
with very little notes from what I understood. He's lazy
a lot of people, but I'll say he's lazy. Russell's
little cunning. He could also take a joke. That's why
I think you love Russell. Russell, I'm saying, has been
two more shows than anybody else associated with this show. Yep, yep.

(31:54):
My shows are my stand up shows. Yeah, your stand
up shows? Um? Are you mad that Benstock didn't get
a comedy scene like that? He didn't. He didn't like
Moonlight as a as a as a comedian. He should
have hosted a talent show. I suggested that one year.
I suggested that Lydia being a hip hop contest, so
you could hiphop contest on my Talente Coach exactly. There

(32:14):
should have been one episode where all the actors write
an episode, like could we collectively wrote an episode together
and to see how that goes down? Yeah, that would
have been funny. That had been fun I wrote mine
write my head. Well, I wrote I wrote it in
my head. No, it was like a mister McGoo. Well,
I know it's never gonna be done, so why would
I put the time to put it on paper. But
I called it the mister Magoo episode where it starts

(32:37):
with me sitting on my couch or something watching TV
in my house, and the camera pulls back out out
the window and then goes into my basement and styles
is tied up. No, that would be a funny short film.
And it's all underneath me, this whole world. And I

(32:58):
go out and I miss everything by like two seconds,
meaning like if somebody's being uh, you know, there's a
fight scene or something happens, I miss everything. I'm just
mister McGough wandering through Beacon Hills, completely unaware. Well that's
kind of who you were, Yeah, yeah, you were always
it was Finn Stock has been around longer than any

(33:20):
other character. That's how I wrote it in my head.
You know, I've seen it all. I've seen how many
generations of you kids coming through tons. I didn't caress.
I just want to win the FFing lacrosse. We played lacrosse, right, Yeah,
I was gonna say, well, you taught me the name.
I mean I remember the name when you said it,
but I had not initially remember the name of the

(33:43):
lacrosse team. Yes, which is one season. It was never
in any scripts. And then we show up and on
the field it says cyclones everywhere with like you know
soft sir. You know Jeff probably yeah, he probably went
to Darry Queen and goes, you know what where the cyclos.
That's the way his brain works. I bet you anything.

(34:04):
And I'm going out on a limb here. I don't
think Jeff named it. I think it would be a
staff writer, another writer in the room. I bet you maybe,
and everyone went with it. It was great, but he
would have had to approve it. You've ever prove it.
But I think he had probably bigger things going on
in his head at the time and he just was
like CycL No, No, he doesn't. He doesn't rustle it.

(34:25):
He's he doesn't rustle it. But I think no. I
think somebody probably came up with the concept, but he
had to modify it so he got credit. So I
would I would think they were like, you know what,
where the Beacon Hills soft serves and it had an
ice cream and Jeff goes no, no, no no, no cyclones.
Where the cyclones? Because we show up once there's just

(34:46):
soft serve ice cream emblems all over the place, saying cyclones.
I think of Parker Posey and Best in Show? Or
is it no Waiting for Goffman Waiting up for Gofman
and she's like doing the dairy queen thing and has
that monologue about about officer Um. That's funny, what a
great movie. We should do an entire spoof of Waiting
for Goffman with Beacon Hills. That would be if Waiting

(35:09):
for Guffman and Beacon Hills had a baby, that would
be an odd baby. I don't know why why we
can't put on our talent show and we're waiting for
Goffman in Beacon Hills. For anybody that is a fan
of Christopher Guest, if you haven't seen Waiting for Goffman,
it's one of his first movies. If it's his, is
it his final tap? I think what's didn't final tap? Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(35:31):
yeah yeah, stars Christopher Guest, there you go Ornie can't
we can't out somewhorrew Erney Adams. Well, it's just it's
such genius. Those movies. It's just comedic absolute reliance that
probably spawned um, you know, Gary Shandling's shows, the Larry
Sanders shows in the Office. These are all babies of that.

(35:53):
You know, we need to get a list from you
of all your favorite movies. I think the Team Wolf
crowd would appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Paramount can't get
enough of that team. So at this point, the reason
this episode is named this is Diles is just pummeling
these lacrosse balls at Scott, trying to get his heart

(36:14):
rate to rise and get mad so that then he
could then control it and not turn and try to
coerce himself into only turning when he wants to turn.
And now we know definition of term. So these people
don't turn on. They can't just cause themselves to turn. Well,
when you get good at you can, but when you're
a babywere wolf or a teen wolf, it's a little

(36:35):
it's a little unhinged. Yeah, so your heart monitor device
is the one that harnesses the whole episode together. But
this is the first scene that you say, who read
the reading assignment? And then Greenberg. This is the first
time that Greenberg's faceless and you just see a hand
in the back and you're like, shut up, Greenberg. We
know you read the assignment. Do you remember this line?
I do, and it's only because it's problematic. Again, would

(36:59):
really yes, because you can see everybody in that classroom,
so they all believe you couldn't. Though, when I watched
it today, when you raise the hand, the fans faceless
of Greenberg, it just was the hand coming up and
there were people in front of this person, so you
couldn't see. That's a re edit. That's a re edit.
In the original, they went back to save Jeff's does

(37:20):
save Jeff? You already said this is when I did
what's wrong with Ronny Adams? However, about that you did
not improv? Because I thought you'd improv quite a bit
in the show throughout the seasons. I think I did,
But you know, I don't want to take away from
the writing. I think that you know, he wrote really
fun stuff for you. I think we discussed it on

(37:43):
my podcast and I said that, you know, one of
my gripes is that my character wasn't on it more
or wasn't didn't have a storyline. But I've said this
to Jeff and I do believe it. I think it
was in there enough that it made the character really pop.
And I oh, absolutely, the fans really enjoy Coach because

(38:04):
they know you can sort of take a deep breath,
nothing really is going to happen when Coaches on the screen.
I've said it before, I will continue saying it at
every convention where it's like Coach is my favorite character.
It's just you just get to have fun and you
get to, like you said, it's like take a load off, yeah,
and just get randomly screamed out for like you're like,
what's happening now? Yeah, the way life should be. You

(38:26):
should be able to yeah, like spray paint It's just
he spray paints the words at you. It's like and
you're like, what just happened? You cover a lot of
ground very quickly, and some and I did listen. I
for sure it took liberties. And even in the movie
there are certain people that you know it would drive
them nuts because they don't know what's going to come
at them. Wait, do you know how to play lacrosse? Though? No,

(38:52):
don't talk about like when I'm supposed to say something, okay, okay, okay,
if if I feel like I can say something else
and get the same reaction and then get into it.
I do. I may be frustrating some people to work
with because I do like to mess around a little bit.
So you when you were told you're gonna be at

(39:13):
a cross coach though, you just you just walked in
and said great. I have known nothing about lacrosse, and
I'm just gonna yell stuff. But I like it. You
would even not even use like proper terms. Sometimes I
thought that was funny. I was carrying a baseball glove
put in the goalpost or something like that. Yeah, Like,
I like that you did not have proper terminology and
you'd yell at sometimes. I think when I got cast

(39:33):
in it, most people, I'm sure most actors on the
show would research lacrosse and know everything about it. I'm
happy to say after a hundred episodes in one movie,
I still know nothing about lacrosse. Do you know what
you score till luck? It's gonna be a clock, But
I couldn't tell you if the clock goes up like
soccer or down like football and basketball or interesting? Yeah,

(39:55):
I don't know. Have you thought about that? Yeah? I
know some sticks will longer than other sticks. You learned
that from the show. I saw it. I was very observant. Oh,
I do have one line. You had a line that
you were like, did you read the assignment, Scott? Did
you read the asignment? Scott? And you said like you
read X, like you read WYE, and you're like, like like
you read every adult website when you go home at night.

(40:16):
Was that that wasn't that was an oly line? I don't.
I don't remember. I don't know. It might have been. Yeah.
I was like, I kept trying to find your improv
moments and I would ask, Yeah, I got away with
a lot more earlier on before, like when MTV wasn't
taken us seriously, before it was a hit. We're just
in the corner over here being broadcast. Really listen when

(40:38):
all of a sudden one episode they delivered us pizza
and then there was a coffee truck. I go, oh shit,
we must be hitting some ratings because the network's taken
us seriously. Um So, at this point in the episode,
there's a bunch of guys that they're still trying to
confine styles and Scott are still on their you know,
uh Yoda esque mission to control all his powers and

(41:01):
a bunch of guys beat him up. Do you did
you remember Adrian Harris, because Adrian Harris is the character
that came in as the chemistry teacher and he almost
looks like a David Lynch character with like his like
guy he's in the movie. Yeah, he's he's We actually
you you, me, and um we all sat when where
we were sat I'm trying to think it was at

(41:21):
the stadium in Atlanta where we sat there and we
were doing behind the scenes. And he and his wife
have a theater company. Yeah, he has one, the compani
He lives in Atlanta. Yes, he's the lovely guy. Um.
You didn't have a lot of scenes together though, No Forbritter,
everybody forbid. Peter Hales also in a coma in this episode.

(41:42):
Peter Hale is Ian, right, yeah, yes, yes, so he's
in a coma. So he does appear sort of in
the Oh no, this isn't the pilot yeah six episode? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you see that. You see him in the coma. And
then do you remember Jonathan Hollard ever seen Peter? Have
you Ian's impersonation of me? I don't think I ever had. Oh,

(42:05):
I have to ask him. He pulls it out at
a conventions. Yeah, it's just you know, all of a sudden,
he's wearing his hair like mine. You know he actually
did for a while. You are not you are not wrong.
Oh I'm never wrong. Or and he sees everything everything
you're funny. Um. So at that point, the boys that

(42:29):
you're beating up on Scott and Adrian Haris comes in
and saves him. He now can control because of your
heart monitor. And you know, Styles still has your phone,
had it in your had it in your class during
the reading assignment, had it before in the La Crosse Fields.
Still has your phone. We cut to Peter Hale and
and our director photography. Do you remember who that was?
Jonathan Hall. His wife made an appearance in this episode

(42:51):
as the nurse tending to Ian Bowen. Yeah, nepotism ran
deep on our show. She was great. She great desert
he was great. Um. But yeah, so Scott and Styles
and detention, you had some detention scenes that you ran
in later seasons. I think you did. Adrian Harris was
running this detention scene, but detention session, but you had

(43:13):
other detention wasn't I think an economics teacher you were
for some reason there was a reading assignment in your
economics class in this scene in this in this episode,
and uh and then this this scene kind of the
episode ends with they break into um the school on
an announcement and he lets out these like baby howls
for trying to call in the alpha. And who was

(43:35):
the alpha at the time? And I kept trying to remember.
I think it was Ian Bowen pretending he was in
a coma. So was Ian the Who's the original alpha?
Who started this whole thing? Ian Bowen? Really? I think
he was. He's so cocky. I thought it was like
Derek was the original. No, Derek was a BATA in

(43:58):
the beginning and then he became the alpha. Yeah, huh. Yeah.
I gotta say, you have excellent cliff Notes. Excellent cliff
notes that did you run school? Pretend you read the
assignment by going in on the cliff notes version? Yeah,
why would you read the whole book? I was always
able to like spin an entire paragraph off of like
the cliff Notes sentence, and they're like, hall and read

(44:19):
the assignment. Yeah, I mean I can see, I see
the essence. There's a lot of like, I mean, let's
be honest, this series could have been twenty four episodes.
Instead they stretch it to one hundred. You know, writers
fascinate me. I have no idea how they can take.
In my mind everything would be a movie. TV writers
have a gift unlike a gift I could ever imagine. Yeah,

(44:41):
I don't know how they're sending story, how they write
these episodes. I don't it is. It is fascinating me.
So that's episode six, season one, Heart Monitor and see
you light the fireside story You're like, you just can't
make hin in there. He has his baby howl that
he go everyon kind of makes fun of. This is
sloppy ending, no, because then he has a deep howl

(45:02):
at the very end. And there's this moment though that
Derek almost dies. There's like a cliffhanger because Derek has
been threatening to die every episode. Derek walks out and goes, um,
hey everybody, I'm kind of too hot to be here, Okay,
so I might leave any time. Funny man, you're a
funny funny man. Let me ask the viewers a question.

(45:25):
Do you all agree that this should have been buttoned
up with Coach getting his phone back and his heart monitor.
Do you think gets safe that these kids are stealing
my health devices. I don't shout out this episode. That's
what we're going to start with. We've got a We've
got a lot of grievances. This is when our podcast
become one is what's wrong with Orney Adams and hallerback?
Now can end with where is coaches heart? Mutter? How

(45:49):
that should be? In the Beacon Hill Smithsonian with the
Porsche and the Jeep and and the arrow that went
through me. I mean, did you take anything from set? Yes?
I did? Oh would you take? Took a lot of things.
Oh and backpacks and I'm not kidding. Backpacks, the backpacks,
the gifts of the back I took a lot of

(46:09):
props and then I gave them away to fans on
social media, and then MTV sent me a letter, a
legal letter. No they did not, Yeah, like for real?
Yeah no, yeah, Oh that's funny. I didn't know that.
But here's the thing, and here's the thing about me.
I'm a rules player. I always played by the rules,

(46:31):
and I had permission to give away the props from
the props department. They were like doubles and stares. So
then so then you went back to MT said, yeah,
I have, you know, yeah, I'm actually helping promote this
show and then they and then they let it drop. Yeah,
I mean yeah, I mean I think promotions tend to
get a little confused by me because I promote my

(46:52):
own way, and uh, you know it's it's more like them.
I like the way you promote aside from being um,
you know teen Wolf Finnstock. Is you know that that
unfortunately didn't take off, like a bigger story for Finnstock.
Is there anything that you'd like to do in the
future with Teen Wolf? Is there anything that you would

(47:13):
like to not do with Team Wolf in the future.
What would be your look? What if Jeff writes another
role for you, would you take that? Jeff, Jeff and
I have talked about plenty of other roles. I would
work with Jeff anytime. And I hope that we continue
to make movies, teen Wolf movies and teen Wolf projects,
and I hope I'm always involved. Oh, Ornie's a big
heart at the end of the day. I've always seen

(47:34):
it always, Oh, don't tell them, Okay, that's going to
stay on the down low. By the way, I didn't
follow up in your show. I have I've always wanted
to be a good bartender and a good barista, and
I am neither because I like mix alogist cocktails and
proper cortados. So I I wish I would have gotten
more Bury's experience, and I still can. It's never too
late and too late, I'm feeling. Do you think that

(47:56):
your podcast went better than my podcast? The different podcast?
Because we're talking about my life and your life and
like the real business and and this. We we touch
on our lives, but it's more about like Team Wolf
and like your reaction with Team Wolf. Yeah, you know
you asked me like you're the first cast member to
come on. I'm not how many I would have on.

(48:17):
I do want to have Jeff on to explain what
he goes through with the fans and reacting and stuff
like that. Definitely need to, yeah, but I don't. I
keep it sort of separate. Teen Wolf is over there,
and I wanted to sort of talk not about Team
Wolf as much. On my part. Might have been a
mistake because look how more animated we are. It's all
like because it's like, uh, you know, it's it's just

(48:39):
Team Wolf. It's just a it's a wild ride. It's
just I can't believe it defines so much of my
life and legacy. You know it's weird well and and
and you know you have such a bigger legacy and
like your quote unquote normal regular career as a comic.
So it's pretty cool that you got to like pop
in and be a part of the story and then
also have a whole their life too. And it's also

(49:02):
as an actor, if you want to call me that
you get to say somebody else's words. So if I want,
I can just show up and say what's on this page?
And that's cool. When you're a stand up, I'm responsible
for everything I say. You get to just be lazy
as an actor, just show up, right, you can just
show up. Just show up, guys, just show up to

(49:24):
this episode and scared to sit outside in the freezing
cold for twelve hours losing your sixteen sixteen a lot
of times? Yeah, sixteen hours. Yeah, and that's a tough show.
Would people say, what is it? Give me some acting advice?
I say, go stand in a feel where it's freezing
with no heaters for sixteen hours and on the sixteenth hour,

(49:46):
in one minute, deliver your lines. Because we would start
a scene and I'd be like all amped up and
ready to go, and I got the coffee and they're
setting it up and I'm all excited. I still have
nightmares about them setting it up and we're ready to go,
and then all of a sudden, it takes two more hours.
Uh huh, because they're like, I go, you guys, you're
not Scorsese was shooting a show for MTV. I he is,

(50:09):
Russell is that's my team, will looks good? Was that's Russell?
Just knew those angles man Tim and Russell they would
take that extra time. So yeah, that's it. It's really simple.
Any any parting words, it's it's that you need your
heart monitor back. Yeah, I want my heart monitor back.
I hope that's addressed. If we have a sequel for
this movie, um, that's number one priority. Yeah. Now I've

(50:33):
learned more about this show in this episode, and uh,
I just I want to thank you for having me
on and and the fans, and I hope that you guys,
you know, watch my stand up and everything's on YouTube,
and I hope you come see shows that you know
people come. Here's here's what I wanted to ask on
my podcast, and I didn't have time when you see

(50:54):
somebody in public wearing a Beacon Hills T shirt? What
do you do? I yell at them before they even
I see them first. They like it. One on TikTok,
eleven point five million people have watched me yelling at this. What, yeah,
I have to see this? Here has no clue. She
thinks like, who's this old she's wearing. I'm like going,
look at there's a Storinsky behind me. Let's see if

(51:15):
you recognize me and I go Stinsky. Oh wait, I
have seen this. Yeah, yes, that went to eleven point
that went viral. Well on viral. Yeah, that's fun. I've
done it. I've fasted a bunch. Sometimes they've run away.
They think it's like an old crazy man yelling at them.
Oh my gosh, well you can't. Ornie and coach very
Beta you could do that. I've actually taken teen Wolf

(51:38):
fan pictures when I've been with Colton, often where they're like, hey,
can you take the picture, and they're so in awe
of Colton that they don't realize I'm on the show,
and so I'll take the fan pictures. That happens a lot,
a lot, huh, I think so, I mean he's you know,
very recognizable face shape. Yeah, so yeah, I know. I
would take so many fan pictures of teen Wolf. Well,

(51:58):
he tells, wear a shirt that says I was on
teen walf Oh, Colton Hornie, thank you so much for
doing this. This is so sweet of you to come on. Well,
thank you for having me on. Of course, thanks for listening. Y'all.
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(52:19):
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