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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Holler Back Now with me Hollen rod In
and I Hunt radio podcast. Hi Ja, where are we
right now? We're sitting in Moe's bedroom, which is really odd,
but it's this is also your bedroom, Mow, not your bedroom, Mow. Okay,
(00:22):
this is his studio with Sean, and we're about to
sens At Boulevard, right down the street from where I
used to take Fightful to daycare when I would go
to Team Wolf every day. I remember that. Yeah, But anyway,
we're next door to that, so weirdly it's attached to
teen Wolf everything and I do it is almost attached
to teen wold in somewhere. I asked j R. I said,
(00:45):
would you like coffee and alcoholic beverage? She goes water?
Please water. That's why he looks amazing. One of the
reasons I love water, and you've got I always triple faced.
I have a carbonated water, a flat waterind of coffee
from Butcher and the Baker. Oh no, Butcher and the Bakery.
(01:06):
You know I don't drink coffee, right, I do know that.
Oh yes, I actually do know that. And I asked
you for coffee. Well I knew you'd say tea, but
I always it's a weird thing to to what made
you not drink coffee? Um, I think it really sunk
in when my mother was first diagnosed in seven and
(01:27):
she read someone that caffeine was horrible, so for yeah,
so caffeine and chocolate were the things that she was
like when she was first diagnosed to cut out. So
she went to Green Tea because the caffeine is cleaner
and it's pure, and it's just doesn't it doesn't have
the same And that just stuck in my brain. And
(01:48):
you never said you never drink coffee then as your
entire adult life. No, I went through a phase when
I was loving frappuccinos and I am I stupidly just
ignored that there was caffeine into until my partner was like, caffeine.
How old were you at this point? Is this Canada? Yeah, No,
I haven't. I haven't drank you guys even try to
(02:09):
get me to try it, like just try this, try this.
Let me guess that was Tyler Heckling or everybody. Everybody Okay,
tried to get me to Ian tries to everybody try
a lot of things. The coffee, no interest, What are
we doing here? Why did you ask me why you
put headphones on my head. So we are here for
a teen wolf rewatch podcast. I like to think it's
(02:31):
a loose rewatch podcast because we don't get to each
other a lot um. Jared I actually se each other,
you know, relatively frequently. But we just did a show together.
I was going to say, we'll get to that. We'll
get to that, but you are episode two, and we're
going to go through episode two. But at first I
want to talk about how did you find the team
(02:52):
of script and why did you want to be a
part of the show. Actually originally originally read for Deacon,
did you Yeah, see I I learned things on this podcast. Yeah,
And then Jeff was the one that said I think
he's argent and uh and then proposed that and I
was like, yeah, and did you test for? For those
(03:14):
in not in the business, it's you know, you go
to the audition, you go to a call back, you
had a second round, and then then then the test,
it's like you're very close to the part. Usually like
maybe three or four people. Yes, familiar with tests. I
do not test. I um. Just after I read for Deacon,
met Jeff read for Deacon and then caught word about
Argent and I think it then just happened. Was he
(03:35):
a fan of your previous work? I don't know. I
actually I've never asked him that. It's a great question.
Should we text him right now? Sure? He's writing right now,
he's literally writing. The team will script as we speaking. Excited.
I am excited. We are filming this, recording this podcast
before we start shooting. We might be doing some recordings
(03:57):
during shooting for this podcast. But so you're going to
get to see sort of the the progression of of
the pre during and post through this podcast. It's it's
sort of art imitates life. We're talking about it while
doing the next chapter. Well, we're getting ready to it's yeah,
I'm very excited. So you're here for a second chance
(04:17):
at first line? All right, that's the second episode. Was
the title of our second episode. That was the title
of the second episode, second chance, first line, first line.
That's our theme as an actor in life, we're always
trying to get a second chance. But this was at
the point where you've already shot Scott. Well, I mean
(04:41):
I didn't kill him, Derek at least, Yeah, you took
a shot at the bow though, and Derek has bitten Scott. Yeah,
and one came first. I didn't try to shoot him
before Derek bad him. Derek bad him, then you had
the hunch. Yeah. And also I didn't know that my
daughter was freaking I didn't know any of that. Argent
(05:03):
didn't know any of that, right, You didn't know that
they were starting to sort of like, you know, I
didn't even know I was a banshee until the second season. Yeah,
I think everyone thought it was a banshee for the
amount of word per minute that I speak. I figured
it out in the air in makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and then go on. Yeah. So at that point then
(05:25):
you realize that the world hunder from the Pilot is
actually Scott's crush Allison's dad. And uh yeah, what about
that first impression when you met Crystal and you guys
were going to play father daughter. Do you remember where
you were met, like, where what you were doing? Were
you eating? Yeah, we were actually shooting in the school.
(05:45):
That was our first time meeting. We were in Atlanta,
and I just remember sitting next to her, and I
think we obviously had been introduced prior to that that
night of that day, but I sat next to her
and we're talking. I just remember a moment of really
being taken back by how beautiful her face. She just
(06:07):
and she you know, there's a lovely energy that she
knows how to put out there. And and so I
just remember looking at the chair and going, wow, you're
my daughter, Like this is were you flattered? We're like
they cast this girl is my is my is my daughter?
Like I got taken the look in the mirror. Maybe
I'm not that ugly. I call the crap I made that. Um.
(06:28):
I only asked because I had the same reaction with
Susan when when when Susan played My Mother, I was like,
you guys think I look like this. I could have
come from this womb. I'm very fun generally what I thought.
But we had fun. We had fun as we got
into it through the whole season. I mean it was
I loved working with with with Chris. Had you played
(06:50):
a dad before? Hm, that's a great question. Had I
played a dad before Teen Wolf? I don't know that,
I head it's a great question before Teen Wolf? Yes
I do. I actually do remember one where I had
a kid. Yeah, so that's the easiest answer is yes,
of course I have. But nothing like this, nothing like
(07:13):
the you know, ongoing relationship, not only the ongoing, but
the relationship where uh, she's not a child, she she
you know, she's a young adult. And the span of
that time that a father and a daughter spend together
and that they have the relation that they have. He
then realizes that what he can learn from her, and
that ultimately ended up I think being the biggest arc
(07:34):
for us is what was it that he learned from Alison?
And and what did he need to learn from Alice?
And I don't think he was fully aware of how
dysfunctional his family really was, father, sister, you know what
I mean? And Alison was this kind of Um I
think so that relationship you've never had, No, I never
played that. What's the biggest takeaway that you took from
(07:57):
Argent into other jobs after offended as being a father?
Big part of it? Great question? Yes, I think so,
Um there was. Um. I think it's I think it
was looking at the characters because I play a lot
of bad characters, and and I think that it it
gave me the time six seasons, you know, to really
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sort of explore what I think is of very human condition. Um.
You know, we were kind of talking about this earlier.
You know that everything isn't black and white. So he
hunts werewolves? Does that make him a bad man? Um?
And I think that there's a gray scale in there
because listen, are werewolves? Are Scott and Derek and you
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know what I mean, Um, these are people that also
have a moral compass, that are also sort of so
that I think has bled into everything that I've done,
which is like, oh right, so I know that this
is who this guy is on the surface, but let's
let's take a little deeper, like you know, um, is
he you know, just is it just across the board
(09:07):
an evil human being? Um, it's more interesting to play,
I guess. Yeah, that was the biggest takeaway I think.
So yeah, yeah, great question, Holland, all right, thanks for
having me. I'm gonna go I I find it fascinating
(09:27):
of sort of what's behind the curtain? Um, because you
guys have seen all the episodes if you're watching a
team of podcast, and so I always like to, uh
to know what's going on mhm, what was going on
behind you know, upstairs in and that shifted and changed
over the six seasons. I think for both of us,
(09:48):
all of our characters. Yeah, um, I never knew what
was coming. You know, we never knew, we never knew.
I mean people I think assume and I am also
guilty of this with my fa at shows, thinking the
mastermind has it all figured out and they don't. They
I think that. I think the best masterminds have an
(10:08):
amazing blueprint, but then they you know, the best ones
are appliable where life happens, and that's just that they're
the best ones are the ones that are going we'll
hold on a second, like let's see what unravels, and
and they're they're very present, you know what I mean,
instead of being rigid, and you know, they let it unfold.
They let unfold. And I also think, you know, logistically,
(10:29):
I always try to remind peopleho have the business that
is behind these shows, including teen Wolf, and when you've
got nine cooks in the kitchen that you know, at
different network levels that all want to discuss changes, you definitely.
I remember there was a time where, um, it was
in the Vets office and there was a scene change
and it was like an eight page scene and it
(10:54):
was Derek, it was Styles, it was myself, it was
Allison Scott um no I'm sorry it wasn't it was
Malia and so it's more recent of the seasons. But yeah,
we were sitting there spitballing, cold reading you know, you
think that's never gonna happen, and big chunks of dialogue
and we're like, we all had, you know, five actors
(11:15):
together to like rehearse it, but brand new seen coming
in and that happened, you know, um, more than anybody
would have liked. But it's it's not necessarily the writer's problem.
It's it's it's you know, when you hire writers, what
can they afford to bring in before the show starts,
you know, before each season. So um, I always just
like to remind people of, you know, is there one
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person to blame or is there a mastermind? Like, nope,
there is not. It is a team. What else happened
in that episode one? Uh Scott's mom andtions she's going
to attend his lacrosse game on Saturday. Scott's very nervous
about being on the lacrosse team, and Uh, Derek shows
(11:58):
up to this lacrosse game. We all did deny it.
I am in the I am in the yes, I
am in the stands. No, no, no, I'm with Allison,
and what I love about what I remember about all
thet Across scenes in Atlanta was we shot in the winter,
and our ward of department at the time. Um, you
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have people that are in the trailer and then you
have people that are actually physically on set with you,
and those are usually uh different people. And the people
that are on set with us had done a lot
of Tyler Perry's productions, which happens to be on a
sound stage, so there's a c and heat on a
sound stage, so there were no under layers putting our trailers.
And I was wearing a miniskirt and it was freezing
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and I just remember calling, you know, they were called
cut and no warming jackets for running and so Crystal
and I just spent so much of Season one freezing.
But look at Posey he was he was shirtless. I
think Colton caught hypothermia. Yeah, but they never I ran
up to Heck and Posey a couple of times with
(13:04):
a warm me and they were like, Nope, don't eat it.
And I was like, Posey loved rejecting the warming jacket.
Loved it. I did he really they didn't, But they
also I genuinely. I mean, I can't speak for them,
but you know they were a kids. As a kid,
I don't I don't know that I would have taken
the warm and jacket either. I would have been like,
screw you, like way cooler without it. I think that
(13:35):
the energy on set was an interesting thing that I
had not experienced before that that young kid Dylan and
Tyler posey energy. UM, what can you speak to that
from your first experiences UM on set on Teen Wolf
in comparison to everything else you had worked on because
you came in seasoned. Yeah, listen, you know in regards
(13:58):
to just teen Wolf, it it was from the get go.
You know, that first season, y'all were so excited to
be there. It was it was a you could feel
that more so than than most jobs, because I could,
I can say in retrospect, absolutely the energy was much higher. Listen,
I have felt that for sure throughout my career, but specifically, yes,
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with teen Wolf that first season, that first day of
showing up, you know, there just was a um. Everyone
was excited. And as it built and it continued, listen,
it went through shifts and changes. We all do, that's life,
but UM on a whole. We all enjoyed working together,
absolutely genuinely. There were there were rumors um on cruise
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when we had gone to Los Angeles that we worked
long hours, like we had average day hours, which is
about the average day is usually twelve to thirteen, So
we were working several hours more than the average show.
It was us in True Blood apparently do you know
about this? And a lot of the crew the camera department,
in the crypt department would say, you guys are the
(15:09):
most fun show to work on, even though we're one
of the hardest shows to work on because the hours
and we had more night shoots than almost any other
show except for True Blood, and it was just the
two of us shooting in Los Angeles, and that was
several years into the show. Uh that there was something
about fart jokes right up until action between Dylan and
(15:30):
Tyler would run up on the first I can't remember
being in the house and you know, very early on
and he'd run in and jump in the thing and
be like, I gotta poop And I was like, then
you should go, and he said, we don't have time.
But it was had any other actor told you that before? No? Never, never,
fresh smile on his face, and it was just everybody
(15:52):
loved being there. We really did. Um. It was it
was definitely a young show though it was if you
had a family, that would have been a really tough go.
And we had directors you know, that had families like
Tim and making them you know, work it's what's called
a split where you work half night, half half day,
and then you go in a half night. And we
(16:14):
were usually on a split by like a Tuesday, and
most shows go onto a split by like Thursday. And
we were on splits most of the week. And we
were a night show, So I remember weeks where we'd
be on. We were on the night schedule, and that's
you know, if you shoot a horror movie four weeks
and you're on nights, people get off that month shoot
and they're just dying. And we're doing this for years,
(16:34):
and so you know, off and on with night shoots.
So it's something that I look at now as an
adult and I look back and go, wow, Teen Wolf
was such a young man's game and anybody that had
a family. Um, and I don't mean a young man's
game chronologically necessarily, Like I'm in my mid thirties and
I'm still looking like I'm um, but anyone that had,
(16:56):
you know, other responsibilities outside the show, Um, dependence would
have been tough to to shoot to shoot Team Wolf.
But I did hear that it was it was more
on the on the fun side, and I can now
concur after working on other shows. I do feel like
the energy was different and it did translate to Uh,
perhaps the fans did pick up some of that energy. Yeah,
I like that. That's a great one. I hadn't heard that. Ye,
(17:19):
that's what happens next in the episode. We just went
on a commercial break. Now we're back. That's what we're back. Uh.
So at this point, Um, Styles ask Scott if you
can hear what the police are saying to the principle,
because obviously Styles and Scott Scott has told Styles that
something happened. Um, and he says they mentioned that they
(17:39):
want to set a curfew because of the recently discovered
dead body, and Lydia threatened Scott because she claims she
can't date the captain of the losing team. Uh, Lydia
can't date losers. I think Lydia this was before her
her arc um. She was she was painted as a
popular girl, but she was really just a smart girl
that had no friends. Yeah, but she would would you
say that she was painted a smart from the from
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the get go? Pretty much? Yeah, pretty much. She's getting well.
You know why that was? They wanted a beer to
be a model, and I went out for Allison. Initially,
did you really? I did? I didn't know that I
would have almost been your daughter. You read for Allison
originally I did. Yeah, yeah, And November of two thousand
(18:23):
nine I read four. You know, it's hilarious. There's a
very strong possibility that some fans in Spain or somewhere
where we've been is like correcting me that you told
me this story on stage somewhere and I forgot. Oh,
probably probably. I mean, the one thing about genre shows
is we we almost go on like a campaign tour,
like we've actually physically met so many of our of
(18:45):
our fans. It's it's one of my favorite part. It
is amazing our industry. Of of my career is meeting
the fans. I genuinely, Oh, the drawings are incredible. It's insane.
You know, I have still a sketch artist that these
things that they will draw your of your significant others
or your your pets are your you know, you considered
(19:07):
prefer baby like I have I have fan art of Fightful,
like needle Point, like I have a needle point. I
have the dot uh sketch pictures. Um, so oh yeah,
they're all my walls. I mean, it's it's incredible that
these people care that much and are all our studio.
Remember one wall with all the portraits. Oh yeah, because
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they said that to Jeff and that's when I was
doing on the Verge. They rented our studio. So I
walked in and I was like wait a second, and
then there were the pictures and then we shot in
the library. So we shot the scene, this one particular scene,
and there was the staircase with the big window, which
was also Derek's loft l this season. Derek had a
(19:49):
beautiful set. But that was originally the library, wasn't it
It was the originally library. No, no, it was it
was derek set first changed into the library. Seriously, Oh
I had that the other way around. Yeah. So for
those of you that caught the I don't know if
um we're able to hide it that well, but yeah,
I wonder if any fans caught that big window. Well
that's what I did. I did a picture, you know,
over my shoulder, the staircase and the and the and
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the window, the big huge picture window, and I was like, hey,
you know, shout out to all the team with fans.
Is well, I'm shooting a scene for you know, that's
cool on another show. So was it so a library
when he shot there? Or was it a store? I
was doing a reading of the character had written a
book on minimalism, so he was doing a reading from
the book and his newish maybe girlfriend was was there listening.
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What happens next in episode two, Episode two. I don't
know if you guys this is this is fairly earlier
in our podcast days, so let us know. Hit me
up on social if you want to hear more about
episodes or less about I was so excited. I thought
you were opening it up to like a call in.
I thought, all of a sudden, I wish so excited.
I wish we could be I've got a call from
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we grew up with ratings? Do you listen to a
radio show on the way to score? And but that
I would love to kid kiss FM. That's my shout out. Okay,
so it happens next? Is that Scott sneaks into the
Morrigan finds Jane Doe the body that was killed, and
he notices a partial body with painted toad nails. And
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as soon as Derek leaves leaves his home, Scott and
Styles arrived to snoop around. They started digging in search
of the other half of the body at Derek's Uh. Yes,
they do right, right, right, And this was I feel
like this is when Styles kind of really starts to pop.
Um was in season two, I mean episode two of
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season one, when you know he's sort of the sleuth,
he's the town investigator, and really establish his roots in
uh sticking his nose where it doesn't belong um. And
I had a friend, a co worker, a former co
worker that had worked with Dylan on a webisode before
he did Teen Wolf UM. So she was like, let me, oh,
(22:03):
you're working with Ditta Brian. He's so fun and and uh.
But this was Dylan's like first job that was on
a television outside of that webisode, so he didn't have
a ton of experience when when he had started. Um
seeing him blossom over the course of Team I'm talking
about a natural talent. Yeah, his his physical comedy is incredible,
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and I feel like it really hurt it. I mean,
there's that that infamous scene where he falls from the
nut falls but he drops his body with his legs
hanging up on the Everyone remembers this one shot that's
on the show. But his a lot of his physical
comedy started coming out in this episode. Um they find
a dead wolfs body, styles notices wolf spain. He starts
(22:48):
pulling out a giant rebo wolf Spain around the whole
They dug, yes, there's a dead woman's body now. Um
so at nact three that cops arrive at Derek's home
arrest him. I love by the way Derek all episode two. Yeah,
and and Derek by the way, he was like younger
than me. Derek's sister, Who is it that's buried there? No?
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Is it the sister? Did I just give it that away? No? No,
they're rewatching fair game, fair game. Um but um, I
love talking about the fact that Tyler Hecklin it was
somehow growing a five o'clock shadow at like five, because
he was younger than a lot of the quote good
high schoolers on set, and he was playing this brooding
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young adults living in his layer. He was twenty two,
two or twenty one. Yeah, I was twenty three when
we started. I'm thirty five. Now you're younger than Hecker.
I am older than Heck Yes, Heck was early twenties.
He was early. Told you five o'clock shadow that boy
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he grew here. Um, fun story because I'm telling the
story with j R. Because they're good friends in real life.
And I don't think you know this. I was you
read for Derek as they had. They said, you're close,
but no cigar coming for Allison, and then they read
for Lydia. Jeff was like, that's really good. Try it
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with red hair, and uh yeah. So so Tyler had
already been hired, and I saw him at the gym
um the night before he was going to leave for Atlanta,
and I made fun of him, you know, sort of nicely,
because we were set up on a blind date. Our
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best friends dated. What did you not know this? Yes,
there's so many things going in my mind right now.
So before Team All started, Tyler Hecklin and I went
on a blind date like two years before. Let me
clear the first thing out of my mind. Y'all shot
the pilot first, right, and then there was a chunk
of time. Yes, before we went to Serious shot in
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February of ten, and we went to series in October
and we re shot some of the stuff from the pilot.
So y'all had met back then? Oh no, we met
two years before teen Wolf. Okay, okay, okay, when on
a blind date. Um, our best friends were dating, so
they set us up on that blind date. It was
very quickly realized we're not for each other. And I
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introduced him to a coworker of mine and he ended
up dating her for a couple of years. So we
kind of became friends because of this funny blind date.
And then I kind of offloaded him, this very handsome man.
I don't know offloading would be the word that she
wanted to us to to um, it was mutual. He
then ran to this this this he you know, tried
(25:47):
it out with my friend and it worked out for
a while and a couple of years they dated. And
and so when I see him at the gym, I'm
sort of poked fun of him at him, uh, joyfully
saying you're the perfect werewolf because you you grow hair
so quickly. There's no one else that can play a werewolf.
And it wasn't until I didn't even tell him. I
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read for Team Wolf because I just thought it was
done and gone for Lydia and I think we it
was like five o'clock, and by eight o'clock after I
left the gym, I got the call. But I was
also heading to Atlanta with him the next morning, and
I texted him saying, You're not going to believe this,
but I'm heading to Atlanta to By the way, I
read for Tea Wolf and I didn't tell you it
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was it was private season, so you know, you don't
really bank on anything, and uh yeah, So that's that's
how I knew Tyler Hecklin and also new Ryan Kelly
at many many young twenties parties at Ryan Kelly's house.
No no, no, who else did you date on the show? Ian? No, no, no, no,
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I mean just just Tyler Hecklin was the blind date.
But so, yeah, a few of us knew each other
before we started. I did not know that, yeah, and
then ironically, but the funny thing was, Derek was playing
this brooding, weird adult and I was the child on
the show, and so Hecklin kept making fun of me,
being like, I'm younger than you. How is this possible? Um? So,
I love that Derek the Eilish loved his relationship like
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to the rest of Beacon Hills, and that was established
in an episode two. Yeah, but he did it well,
very well. Remember I mean yeah, I think of him
as like seven. While we were shooting that first time,
you know what I mean, he was a baby, yes, baby,
baby baby heck uh? Act four. Here we go. Scott
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notices Allison and Lydia holding Jackson's number one sign. That
was the first day I really had gotten to no Crystal,
and we kept talking about clothes. That was like our
our common ground because that was in the original pilot
of February two, thou shooting all those Now we're in
the audience and y'all holding up at number one side.
I remember that. I remember that, and he thought it
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was all so hard it burns through little across Dick.
This is Scott. His eyes turned yellow for the first time.
I know if it's for the first time. Actually, was
I sitting I feel like I was there with Kate
or was that later in in in the first season?
Was it? I think it was later? All right, I
trust you more than mine, um, Scott here's Allison say
you can do it, Scott from the stands. Scott runs
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back to the boy's locker room. Alison follows. She noticed
his broken glass and Scott's climbing on the ceiling full wolf.
She finds Scott and apologizes for acting weird, and the
sexual tension is very high Allison's dad. They finally kissed
and the episode two and Styles runs in and watches
and Scott decides he can be a wolf because she
(28:38):
handled his urges during the kiss. So thus the puberty. Uh,
you know, analogy begins of teen Wolf. Yeah. Uh. And
then Styles mentions Derek is out of jail, and uh,
the dead person's death was determined to be from an animal,
and we also realize it's Derek's sister who died. I remember, hm,
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that was the second episode, very very brief. Just wow,
there was a lot going on already in this second
I know, I didn't realize that that much had been
established by episode two. Yeah. Someone said, when was the
first time Alison and and and Scott kissed? I don't
know there are something like that. Yeah, did you guys
(29:23):
know the first time that they we have one? We
have one Team Wolf fan in the room, Sean, what
do you think did you watch the show, Sean? Watch nice? Yeah, Sean,
Sean Johnson Van Wow, alright, holy crap, we got rolling
fast and then that first season a lot. Yeah amazing.
(29:48):
And do you think tin Wolf should have been set
in the eighties because there was so much John Hughes
in influence. There was Lost Boys influence. Um, I felt
like we always had the buddy comedy eighties vibe between
especially the two boys of Tyler and Dylan. But yeah, no,
I think I think that's part of what was. So
(30:11):
how do we set it back? I? Oh you do?
Oh no, I think I think because you know, everything
goes in cycles, right, and so to to sort of
repeat that chemistry or that sort of feeling, but set
in a present world, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
I know the nostalgia, but presently because then if you
(30:32):
said it back in the eighties, then I think, because
it was already known, it's to show everything too on
the nose. Yeah, And I don't know. I don't know
that we would have gotten the I have a theory.
What is it that is true about the audience? You
know what I mean? However, however, stranger things I'll never
(30:54):
forget watching a couple episodes of Stranger Things and it
was the monsters in the Wall and I did this
about face like that in my tracks. This is a
Team Wolf episode. They had the same cadence, It had
the same buddy feel, It had the same innocence, but
with a dark underbelly. And we were a bit more
(31:15):
intense because we were teenagers versus middle schoolers. Um being
being the kid's age age range, what is the age?
What is the demographic of Stranger Things? Adults? Adults huge,
but it's it's nostalgia that's getting them back there. So
this is this is my point we have I see it.
So I don't know if we would have the same demographic.
(31:36):
I do believe it would have because Styles and Scott
I think would have evoked that same feeling for for
people young people watching Team Wolf. But I think we
would have potentially garnered a bigger demographic going back to
the eighties. I'll that's great and I'm with you. Have
(32:03):
I ever shared with you one of my favorite sort
of fan encounters. I was going to ask you, so,
I think it was Bobo's um did we take him
sailing for one of his birthdays, we charter a boat.
So it was that day and I got down to
the marina and I couldn't find the slip where the
boat was, and so I was kind of roaming around
and I finally I asked a couple of people. Nobody
(32:26):
knew it. Then I saw this this older gentleman, probably
in his sixties maybe older. Uh, beautiful white head, head
of hair and beard and a mustache. I mean, looked
like a captain, you know what I mean, looked like
a sailor. So It's like, excuse me, do you know
where this slip so and so you know this boat?
Didn't He goes, oh, yeah, that's back that way and that.
(32:46):
And when he goes, you look familiar to me, and
I was like a duo and he goes, yeah, he goes,
I know you. He goes, you're an actor. He goes,
what is it that I know you from? So I
was like, oh, Stargate because I'm thinking the demographic. He
was like, no, I've never said show. And I was like, oh,
and I didn't, you know, it's it's such an when
(33:06):
you get asked it. It's so I just kind of
stammered and stuffled and looked at him, and I was thinking,
I don't know what and then he went argent and
he said t when I went nope, nope, nope, nope,
you are not our Democrat. I was like, what is happening?
You never know? Here's the story he told me. He
said he got his grandkids on weekends and they were addicted,
(33:32):
so he started watching it to spend more time with them,
and he totally got He broke down the seat, he
was into it, talked about when my wife died, He
talked about Melissa, geared towards other you know what I mean.
But he talked about what Scott went through and Allison
like he was a fan that came from when he
(33:55):
spend more time with his Yeah, didn't that great? That's
an answer reason of why I love the people. It
can bring them closer together in their families. I wish
we had music to Q in right now. That would
have been a great moment. Really, post that's all about post.
This is a professional shop around here that I don't
act very professional. There was a there was a Ramen moment.
(34:18):
Max Carver and I were eating Ramen and a big
tatted guy came out of Labraya in Hollywood, and uh,
just headed straight for us, and I thought maybe we
like parked in the wrong spot, or you know, we
were kind of were parked in front of the shop,
and yeah, big old team will fan. So you know,
you never knew who was going to show up. I
(34:39):
want to ask you if you could play any other
character on the show. We've done this in conventions before,
but I want to ask you on a podcast, what
would you like to play? Do I have to say
that there's one no, you could say whatever you want
to say. I don't know that I would want it.
I mean, listen, I know that I have answered in
the past. Um, God, I think I may have even
(35:03):
said you once. I've said Kate. I definitely throughout our
conventions we've been asked that question, and whenever I get
asked it in that moment, I sort of kind of
go like, who you know what I mean? Um, they're
all great freaking characters. They all would have been to
explore and to play with and genuinely, um, but right
(35:23):
now sitting here across from Argent, I mean, I just
you know what I mean? Um, I would do it
for the sake of experience, but I I I love
what Jeff wrote for him. I love the journey that
Argent went on. Um, we had a we had a
darn good writer. Um. He knows how to write the
whole freaking room and unless everybody there, it's just great.
(35:45):
So I can't wait to step back into his shoes
and see what's happened. I'm excited. And when did you
know Team was a hit? When did I know? Well?
I knew in the first season, the first season out
myself from my back when it was airing, or when
you were shooting it. When we were shooting it. Okay,
I don't know why, but I was like, and what
was your favorite thing to eat at Jeff's pizza parties
when we would have episode screenings at his house from
(36:08):
bossa Nova? Did you remember what you would eat? I
think I eat everything. What didn't? I had the barbecue
chicken pizza is my favorite? Such good, Okay, I think
so I had one once. I had a piece of
I don't think that went down well, So I never
went back to that one. But I do remember. Yeah,
(36:28):
he started having to probably carry vegan pizzas, probably because
of you know, Tyler Posey was a healthy eater on set.
Man now I'm just kidding that boy had abs despite science,
single one of them. Oh and then, what was your
first memory of Russell? Because he's a he is a
(36:50):
funny character. Man, what was my first memory? Yeah, memory
or impression? I have mine Russell. I think unconsciously I
built a space within my head for only Russell. I've
never I've never worked with anyone like that. I've never
(37:12):
sat and had lunch. There's no one. Russell is um
a serious director on the show. For that, I don't know,
I mean it is, Yeah, can we just see him
as well? There's something special the way he speaks, the
energy that he has. But yet we all, uh you
can barely understand him half the time, barely understand, but
(37:35):
we know what he's call him Australian Ozzy Osbourne. It's
I mean, it's that's great, that is great. That's a
great way to put it. Australian Ozzy Osbourne. That just
says blood a lot more than even Ozzy Osbourne says blood.
So quick fire questions. This is where we're gonna have
to hit the bleep button. I'm not good with censoring. Okay,
(37:55):
here we go. Who is your favorite teacher? Throwing up Harper,
What great and what subject Harper was? Well, this was
like fourth grade, fifth grade, sixth grade, fifth and six. Um,
she was my home room teacher, so I started there.
This was in Calgary actually, and Mrs Harper was just yeah,
(38:18):
she was all of that sort of sweet, good, genuine
loved what she was doing, wrapped up in Did you
ever get to write her or tell her? I went
back very early on in my career and swung by
the school and she was still Wow. How many years later, oh,
holland it was quite a while she passed and not
(38:42):
too long, maybe eight years, Mrs Harper, good memories of
miss Harper. I had the same theater teacher as Frey
back in Dallas, Texas. And he rejected me and rejected
Frey and for I realized this sitting in the in
the cash chairs between the scene. Um, and he rejected
(39:06):
us for all the wrong reasons, like we didn't have
siblings in the program, so it really didn't behoove him
to really take us in. And and uh, this is
in high school. Oh yeah, yeah, the theater program and
and uh we just had a good chuckle because we
were sitting here doing it professionally, and so many of
those theater kids, you know, for for better or for worse,
(39:29):
just moved on and and we're in a part of
you know, didn't carry on professionally. So maybe him rejecting
did something something to fraud and I seriously, yeah, yeah,
but Mr Lindsay was was my saving grace and he
and his husband, uh, he was my ap English teacher.
And I cheated on a vocabulary test and I have
(39:49):
yet to write him to let him know I cheated,
and he knew I cheated, and he made me get
in front of the whole class and say the hell
and why don't you tell everybody how you did so well?
That yeah he did because he knew it, but I
never admitted it. And he and his husband were the
only ones to show up to my play outside of school,
and he brought flowers and the whole thing before I
had cheated on the test, before he knew that you
(40:10):
cheated before the test even happened. So the fact that
I did that under the peer pressure of this hard
vocabulary test, it's something I like, it's like a regretted
carry with it for the rest of my life. That like,
he and his husband had the the kindness and the
patience and the wherewithal to show up to because he
knew I didn't get into theater program. And he he
showed up to my on a weekend with his husband.
(40:32):
And so months later cut to this, you know, notoriously
hard into the year test and I took the cheat
uh packet and he knew and I and I plan
on writing him a letter to apologize to podcast. I know,
I know, but he was the coolest guy. Mr. Mr
Lindsey Man. Um Mary kill, Mary kill? Jackson, Derek Styles Jackson?
(41:06):
Who is the who's the middle of Jackson? Derek Styles Jackson,
Derek Styles Styles? Mary kill? Oh? Good lord, Um, I'd
probably Mary, I'd marry Derek. Um can kill. Oh that's
(41:30):
a tough one. Do I have to I have to
have to kill one? I mean, it could be a
very it could be love making session. Doesn't have to
be mean. Uh oh jeesus, Wow, that's unbelievably hard. That
really is them both? And then kill them both, okay,
and then last but not least. Oh. Um. I was like, yep,
(41:58):
that's the answer. There you go. I hope Derek doesn't
feel hurt that I didn't say, well, if we get married,
of course, we're gonna you have a very platonic relationship.
Um not if we're married, we're not going to I
think the last one. What's your favorite color? We'll start
willing with. Wow, Well I'm wearing blue pants. I'm gonna
say blue. Okay, Yeah, I think it's been blue for
(42:20):
a while. I gave you some relatively easy ones. I
think Jeff had some hard ones. Oh, here we go.
Last meal on Earth? Oh wow, yeah, my last meal. Boy,
with that one, that's maybe better than the color. Wow,
my last meal. I would love it to be Scargo
to start. Really. Yeah, I got a whole story there
(42:41):
with my mom and everything, and I love it. No idea.
You and I always eating that when we're overseason. We
have a tradition. We go to this one hotel and
we eat as cargo where in Paris? Why have I never?
I don't know. You can come with us next time.
Are you serious? Apera was like Aprile, Yes, and we
(43:02):
both are and those fields. Yeah, yeah, come on over,
we both are. If you're listening, Bobo, wow, I did
not really. Yeah, So I will start with Escargo and
then this is going to be a horrible combination, but
it's it's got to be. I love lasagna, but I
(43:24):
mean like like you know, cheaper like no, no, no,
like like you know, you know, my my when I
was living in Vancouver before I left Toronto, my partner
had a restaurant and and um, when the chef from
Toronto came out to Bancouver to visit, Uh, he stayed
(43:46):
with us and he was in He's an incredible chef,
and so he was like, what's you grad adition? Want
to make you something for it, you know, And and
we were like lasagna. So he freshen me pasta, and
I mean and what was inside of this thing was
it was a master still a restaurant in Vancouver. No, no no,
was your friend. She just made this. He was like,
you know, think of let me crash with you, like
(44:07):
of course, and he made lasagna and it was like
nothing I've ever And I always loved lasagna. You didn't
get the recipe. No, I would never try to duplicate that,
but I think it's put it into a category from
me where it's like it always was a fave. And
then that experience of what was between the noodles, I
was just like, yeah, lasagna is a it's a thing.
(44:28):
For me like I love it, so last me on
this scargo lasagna and then that's to some sort of
ice cream. I just love you love ice cream? Do
you like Jenny's ice cream filled dairy? I mean, yeah,
you're pretty healthy now with ice cream, but if it's
my last Yeah, have you been to Jenny's Splendid ice creams?
(44:49):
Jenny Splendid? Yeah, ice cream kind of s? You know this? No?
I did not what this? Have we ever met? What good? Lord?
Jenny splend ice creams man? And they've got really the
good dairy free ones. But Jenny's put ice creams there's
no air. So the thing that makes good ice cream
is a lot of like the butter fat and no air,
like for instance, thrifty or dryers or briers. A lot
(45:12):
of air not good ice cream. The thick ice cream
is Jenny's great, even salt and straw. I hate to
break to you guys, there's a little bit too much
are in there. But if you want really thick, good
ice cream, Jenny's. Where is this? I forget how arch
Mont get this stuff? That Hurst stuff comes out of
your mouth that's up there in the head. And I'm
just like, because I'm a Yelp kind of story. Even
(45:34):
I got a fight with the CEO of Yelp listen
on Twitter. I'm not surprised. I knows that you've gotten into.
Um where's Jenny's. You got hill Hurst, you got, you
got Larch month hopefully a sponsor of this podcast soon
to be uh and then you've also got Calabasas. You've
got where's the one on hill Hurst? Hill Hurst is
(45:58):
kind of near Maru. Okay, I think I've been. It's great.
It's great. Palmon Brittle, Texas chi k. I think I've
been there and it's kind I've had. It is delicious,
it's beautiful. Um, should we go there before we leave
two Atlanta? Wait? You're going to go before Jenny's is
in Atlanta? Stop? Seriously, absolutely remember, because I absolutely I
(46:21):
met Jenney's like twice a month. Well, so there's my
last meal, that's it. And then maybe something after the
ice cream, you know, like right before alcohol and alcohol,
I mean neither frozen margarita. Maybe maybe grony with bobo
if you're all there there. He turned me on too negronies,
that man in his NEGRONI. Um, yeah, okay, yeah, Well
(46:42):
we're signing off with Jenny's ice cream, which is a
way I don't mind a signing off. Thanks for coming
for episode two. Hopefully you'll come back. We did not
talk about my ins on FX. That's not the team.
This isn't the mind. I know, I know, but we
did my ins last we did mine glasses together and
then I would love to I think we might actually
win the award for the most people in the same
(47:04):
acting class from the same show, and it's because of you.
J are Born, Michelle. Are you well? Um um, I
think that's an interesting thing to bring up. We were
all in an acting class for a short period. But
um but I would say it was fun acting behind
the scenes and on screen together. I couldn't agree more.
Can't wait to do it again all Annie, thanks for coming,
(47:25):
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This is Holler Back Now with me Hollen rod In
and I Hunt radio podcast. Hi Ja, where are we
right now? We're sitting in Moe's bedroom, which is really odd,
but it's this is also your bedroom, Mow, not your bedroom, Mow. Okay,
(00:22):
this is his studio with Sean, and we're about to
sens At Boulevard, right down the street from where I
used to take Fightful to daycare when I would go
to Team Wolf every day. I remember that. Yeah, But anyway,
we're next door to that, so weirdly it's attached to
teen Wolf everything and I do it is almost attached
to teen wold in somewhere. I asked j R. I said,
(00:45):
would you like coffee and alcoholic beverage? She goes water?
Please water. That's why he looks amazing. One of the
reasons I love water, and you've got I always triple faced.
I have a carbonated water, a flat waterind of coffee
from Butcher and the Baker. Oh no, Butcher and the Bakery.
(01:06):
You know I don't drink coffee, right, I do know that.
Oh yes, I actually do know that. And I asked
you for coffee. Well I knew you'd say tea, but
I always it's a weird thing to to what made
you not drink coffee? Um, I think it really sunk
in when my mother was first diagnosed in seven and
(01:27):
she read someone that caffeine was horrible, so for yeah,
so caffeine and chocolate were the things that she was
like when she was first diagnosed to cut out. So
she went to Green Tea because the caffeine is cleaner
and it's pure, and it's just doesn't it doesn't have
the same And that just stuck in my brain. And
(01:48):
you never said you never drink coffee then as your
entire adult life. No, I went through a phase when
I was loving frappuccinos and I am I stupidly just
ignored that there was caffeine into until my partner was like, caffeine.
How old were you at this point? Is this Canada? Yeah, No,
I haven't. I haven't drank you guys even try to
(02:09):
get me to try it, like just try this, try this.
Let me guess that was Tyler Heckling or everybody. Everybody Okay,
tried to get me to Ian tries to everybody try
a lot of things. The coffee, no interest, What are
we doing here? Why did you ask me why you
put headphones on my head. So we are here for
a teen wolf rewatch podcast. I like to think it's
(02:31):
a loose rewatch podcast because we don't get to each
other a lot um. Jared I actually se each other,
you know, relatively frequently. But we just did a show together.
I was going to say, we'll get to that. We'll
get to that, but you are episode two, and we're
going to go through episode two. But at first I
want to talk about how did you find the team
(02:52):
of script and why did you want to be a
part of the show. Actually originally originally read for Deacon,
did you Yeah, see I I learned things on this podcast. Yeah,
And then Jeff was the one that said I think
he's argent and uh and then proposed that and I
was like, yeah, and did you test for? For those
(03:14):
in not in the business, it's you know, you go
to the audition, you go to a call back, you
had a second round, and then then then the test,
it's like you're very close to the part. Usually like
maybe three or four people. Yes, familiar with tests. I
do not test. I um. Just after I read for Deacon,
met Jeff read for Deacon and then caught word about
Argent and I think it then just happened. Was he
(03:35):
a fan of your previous work? I don't know. I
actually I've never asked him that. It's a great question.
Should we text him right now? Sure? He's writing right now,
he's literally writing. The team will script as we speaking. Excited.
I am excited. We are filming this, recording this podcast
before we start shooting. We might be doing some recordings
(03:57):
during shooting for this podcast. But so you're going to
get to see sort of the the progression of of
the pre during and post through this podcast. It's it's
sort of art imitates life. We're talking about it while
doing the next chapter. Well, we're getting ready to it's yeah,
I'm very excited. So you're here for a second chance
(04:17):
at first line? All right, that's the second episode. Was
the title of our second episode. That was the title
of the second episode, second chance, first line, first line.
That's our theme as an actor in life, we're always
trying to get a second chance. But this was at
the point where you've already shot Scott. Well, I mean
(04:41):
I didn't kill him, Derek at least, Yeah, you took
a shot at the bow though, and Derek has bitten Scott. Yeah,
and one came first. I didn't try to shoot him
before Derek bad him. Derek bad him, then you had
the hunch. Yeah. And also I didn't know that my
daughter was freaking I didn't know any of that. Argent
(05:03):
didn't know any of that, right, You didn't know that
they were starting to sort of like, you know, I
didn't even know I was a banshee until the second season. Yeah,
I think everyone thought it was a banshee for the
amount of word per minute that I speak. I figured
it out in the air in makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and then go on. Yeah. So at that point then
(05:25):
you realize that the world hunder from the Pilot is
actually Scott's crush Allison's dad. And uh yeah, what about
that first impression when you met Crystal and you guys
were going to play father daughter. Do you remember where
you were met, like, where what you were doing? Were
you eating? Yeah, we were actually shooting in the school.
(05:45):
That was our first time meeting. We were in Atlanta,
and I just remember sitting next to her, and I
think we obviously had been introduced prior to that that
night of that day, but I sat next to her
and we're talking. I just remember a moment of really
being taken back by how beautiful her face. She just
(06:07):
and she you know, there's a lovely energy that she
knows how to put out there. And and so I
just remember looking at the chair and going, wow, you're
my daughter, Like this is were you flattered? We're like
they cast this girl is my is my is my daughter?
Like I got taken the look in the mirror. Maybe
I'm not that ugly. I call the crap I made that. Um.
(06:28):
I only asked because I had the same reaction with
Susan when when when Susan played My Mother, I was like,
you guys think I look like this. I could have
come from this womb. I'm very fun generally what I thought.
But we had fun. We had fun as we got
into it through the whole season. I mean it was
I loved working with with with Chris. Had you played
(06:50):
a dad before? Hm, that's a great question. Had I
played a dad before Teen Wolf? I don't know that,
I head it's a great question before Teen Wolf? Yes
I do. I actually do remember one where I had
a kid. Yeah, so that's the easiest answer is yes,
of course I have. But nothing like this, nothing like
(07:13):
the you know, ongoing relationship, not only the ongoing, but
the relationship where uh, she's not a child, she she
you know, she's a young adult. And the span of
that time that a father and a daughter spend together
and that they have the relation that they have. He
then realizes that what he can learn from her, and
that ultimately ended up I think being the biggest arc
(07:34):
for us is what was it that he learned from Alison?
And and what did he need to learn from Alice?
And I don't think he was fully aware of how
dysfunctional his family really was, father, sister, you know what
I mean? And Alison was this kind of Um I
think so that relationship you've never had, No, I never
played that. What's the biggest takeaway that you took from
(07:57):
Argent into other jobs after offended as being a father?
Big part of it? Great question? Yes, I think so,
Um there was. Um. I think it's I think it
was looking at the characters because I play a lot
of bad characters, and and I think that it it
gave me the time six seasons, you know, to really
(08:20):
sort of explore what I think is of very human condition. Um.
You know, we were kind of talking about this earlier.
You know that everything isn't black and white. So he
hunts werewolves? Does that make him a bad man? Um?
And I think that there's a gray scale in there
because listen, are werewolves? Are Scott and Derek and you
(08:46):
know what I mean, Um, these are people that also
have a moral compass, that are also sort of so
that I think has bled into everything that I've done,
which is like, oh right, so I know that this
is who this guy is on the surface, but let's
let's take a little deeper, like you know, um, is
he you know, just is it just across the board
(09:07):
an evil human being? Um, it's more interesting to play,
I guess. Yeah, that was the biggest takeaway I think.
So yeah, yeah, great question, Holland, all right, thanks for
having me. I'm gonna go I I find it fascinating
(09:27):
of sort of what's behind the curtain? Um, because you
guys have seen all the episodes if you're watching a
team of podcast, and so I always like to, uh
to know what's going on mhm, what was going on
behind you know, upstairs in and that shifted and changed
over the six seasons. I think for both of us,
(09:48):
all of our characters. Yeah, um, I never knew what
was coming. You know, we never knew, we never knew.
I mean people I think assume and I am also
guilty of this with my fa at shows, thinking the
mastermind has it all figured out and they don't. They
I think that. I think the best masterminds have an
(10:08):
amazing blueprint, but then they you know, the best ones
are appliable where life happens, and that's just that they're
the best ones are the ones that are going we'll
hold on a second, like let's see what unravels, and
and they're they're very present, you know what I mean,
instead of being rigid, and you know, they let it unfold.
They let unfold. And I also think, you know, logistically,
(10:29):
I always try to remind peopleho have the business that
is behind these shows, including teen Wolf, and when you've
got nine cooks in the kitchen that you know, at
different network levels that all want to discuss changes, you definitely.
I remember there was a time where, um, it was
in the Vets office and there was a scene change
and it was like an eight page scene and it
(10:54):
was Derek, it was Styles, it was myself, it was
Allison Scott um no I'm sorry it wasn't it was
Malia and so it's more recent of the seasons. But yeah,
we were sitting there spitballing, cold reading you know, you
think that's never gonna happen, and big chunks of dialogue
and we're like, we all had, you know, five actors
(11:15):
together to like rehearse it, but brand new seen coming
in and that happened, you know, um, more than anybody
would have liked. But it's it's not necessarily the writer's problem.
It's it's it's you know, when you hire writers, what
can they afford to bring in before the show starts,
you know, before each season. So um, I always just
like to remind people of, you know, is there one
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person to blame or is there a mastermind? Like, nope,
there is not. It is a team. What else happened
in that episode one? Uh Scott's mom andtions she's going
to attend his lacrosse game on Saturday. Scott's very nervous
about being on the lacrosse team, and Uh, Derek shows
(11:58):
up to this lacrosse game. We all did deny it.
I am in the I am in the yes, I
am in the stands. No, no, no, I'm with Allison,
and what I love about what I remember about all
thet Across scenes in Atlanta was we shot in the winter,
and our ward of department at the time. Um, you
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have people that are in the trailer and then you
have people that are actually physically on set with you,
and those are usually uh different people. And the people
that are on set with us had done a lot
of Tyler Perry's productions, which happens to be on a
sound stage, so there's a c and heat on a
sound stage, so there were no under layers putting our trailers.
And I was wearing a miniskirt and it was freezing
(12:43):
and I just remember calling, you know, they were called
cut and no warming jackets for running and so Crystal
and I just spent so much of Season one freezing.
But look at Posey he was he was shirtless. I
think Colton caught hypothermia. Yeah, but they never I ran
up to Heck and Posey a couple of times with
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a warm me and they were like, Nope, don't eat it.
And I was like, Posey loved rejecting the warming jacket.
Loved it. I did he really they didn't, But they
also I genuinely. I mean, I can't speak for them,
but you know they were a kids. As a kid,
I don't I don't know that I would have taken
the warm and jacket either. I would have been like,
screw you, like way cooler without it. I think that
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the energy on set was an interesting thing that I
had not experienced before that that young kid Dylan and
Tyler posey energy. UM, what can you speak to that
from your first experiences UM on set on Teen Wolf
in comparison to everything else you had worked on because
you came in seasoned. Yeah, listen, you know in regards
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to just teen Wolf, it it was from the get go.
You know, that first season, y'all were so excited to
be there. It was it was a you could feel
that more so than than most jobs, because I could,
I can say in retrospect, absolutely the energy was much higher. Listen,
I have felt that for sure throughout my career, but specifically, yes,
(14:23):
with teen Wolf that first season, that first day of
showing up, you know, there just was a um. Everyone
was excited. And as it built and it continued, listen,
it went through shifts and changes. We all do, that's life,
but UM on a whole. We all enjoyed working together,
absolutely genuinely. There were there were rumors um on cruise
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when we had gone to Los Angeles that we worked
long hours, like we had average day hours, which is
about the average day is usually twelve to thirteen, So
we were working several hours more than the average show.
It was us in True Blood apparently do you know
about this? And a lot of the crew the camera department,
in the crypt department would say, you guys are the
(15:09):
most fun show to work on, even though we're one
of the hardest shows to work on because the hours
and we had more night shoots than almost any other
show except for True Blood, and it was just the
two of us shooting in Los Angeles, and that was
several years into the show. Uh that there was something
about fart jokes right up until action between Dylan and
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Tyler would run up on the first I can't remember
being in the house and you know, very early on
and he'd run in and jump in the thing and
be like, I gotta poop And I was like, then
you should go, and he said, we don't have time.
But it was had any other actor told you that before? No? Never, never,
fresh smile on his face, and it was just everybody
(15:52):
loved being there. We really did. Um. It was it
was definitely a young show though it was if you
had a family, that would have been a really tough go.
And we had directors you know, that had families like
Tim and making them you know, work it's what's called
a split where you work half night, half half day,
and then you go in a half night. And we
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were usually on a split by like a Tuesday, and
most shows go onto a split by like Thursday. And
we were on splits most of the week. And we
were a night show, So I remember weeks where we'd
be on. We were on the night schedule, and that's
you know, if you shoot a horror movie four weeks
and you're on nights, people get off that month shoot
and they're just dying. And we're doing this for years,
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and so you know, off and on with night shoots.
So it's something that I look at now as an
adult and I look back and go, wow, Teen Wolf
was such a young man's game and anybody that had
a family. Um, and I don't mean a young man's
game chronologically necessarily, Like I'm in my mid thirties and
I'm still looking like I'm um, but anyone that had,
(16:56):
you know, other responsibilities outside the show, Um, dependence would
have been tough to to shoot to shoot Team Wolf.
But I did hear that it was it was more
on the on the fun side, and I can now
concur after working on other shows. I do feel like
the energy was different and it did translate to Uh,
perhaps the fans did pick up some of that energy. Yeah,
I like that. That's a great one. I hadn't heard that. Ye,
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that's what happens next in the episode. We just went
on a commercial break. Now we're back. That's what we're back. Uh.
So at this point, Um, Styles ask Scott if you
can hear what the police are saying to the principle,
because obviously Styles and Scott Scott has told Styles that
something happened. Um, and he says they mentioned that they
(17:39):
want to set a curfew because of the recently discovered
dead body, and Lydia threatened Scott because she claims she
can't date the captain of the losing team. Uh, Lydia
can't date losers. I think Lydia this was before her
her arc um. She was she was painted as a
popular girl, but she was really just a smart girl
that had no friends. Yeah, but she would would you
say that she was painted a smart from the from
(18:01):
the get go? Pretty much? Yeah, pretty much. She's getting well.
You know why that was? They wanted a beer to
be a model, and I went out for Allison. Initially,
did you really? I did? I didn't know that I
would have almost been your daughter. You read for Allison
originally I did. Yeah, yeah, And November of two thousand
(18:23):
nine I read four. You know, it's hilarious. There's a
very strong possibility that some fans in Spain or somewhere
where we've been is like correcting me that you told
me this story on stage somewhere and I forgot. Oh,
probably probably. I mean, the one thing about genre shows
is we we almost go on like a campaign tour,
like we've actually physically met so many of our of
(18:45):
our fans. It's it's one of my favorite part. It
is amazing our industry. Of of my career is meeting
the fans. I genuinely, Oh, the drawings are incredible. It's insane.
You know, I have still a sketch artist that these
things that they will draw your of your significant others
or your your pets are your you know, you considered
(19:07):
prefer baby like I have I have fan art of Fightful,
like needle Point, like I have a needle point. I
have the dot uh sketch pictures. Um, so oh yeah,
they're all my walls. I mean, it's it's incredible that
these people care that much and are all our studio.
Remember one wall with all the portraits. Oh yeah, because
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they said that to Jeff and that's when I was
doing on the Verge. They rented our studio. So I
walked in and I was like wait a second, and
then there were the pictures and then we shot in
the library. So we shot the scene, this one particular scene,
and there was the staircase with the big window, which
was also Derek's loft l this season. Derek had a
(19:49):
beautiful set. But that was originally the library, wasn't it
It was the originally library. No, no, it was it
was derek set first changed into the library. Seriously, Oh
I had that the other way around. Yeah. So for
those of you that caught the I don't know if
um we're able to hide it that well, but yeah,
I wonder if any fans caught that big window. Well
that's what I did. I did a picture, you know,
over my shoulder, the staircase and the and the and
(20:11):
the window, the big huge picture window, and I was like, hey,
you know, shout out to all the team with fans.
Is well, I'm shooting a scene for you know, that's
cool on another show. So was it so a library
when he shot there? Or was it a store? I
was doing a reading of the character had written a
book on minimalism, so he was doing a reading from
the book and his newish maybe girlfriend was was there listening.
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What happens next in episode two, Episode two. I don't
know if you guys this is this is fairly earlier
in our podcast days, so let us know. Hit me
up on social if you want to hear more about
episodes or less about I was so excited. I thought
you were opening it up to like a call in.
I thought, all of a sudden, I wish so excited.
I wish we could be I've got a call from
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we grew up with ratings? Do you listen to a
radio show on the way to score? And but that
I would love to kid kiss FM. That's my shout out. Okay,
so it happens next? Is that Scott sneaks into the
Morrigan finds Jane Doe the body that was killed, and
he notices a partial body with painted toad nails. And
(21:19):
as soon as Derek leaves leaves his home, Scott and
Styles arrived to snoop around. They started digging in search
of the other half of the body at Derek's Uh. Yes,
they do right, right, right, And this was I feel
like this is when Styles kind of really starts to pop.
Um was in season two, I mean episode two of
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season one, when you know he's sort of the sleuth,
he's the town investigator, and really establish his roots in
uh sticking his nose where it doesn't belong um. And
I had a friend, a co worker, a former co
worker that had worked with Dylan on a webisode before
he did Teen Wolf UM. So she was like, let me, oh,
(22:03):
you're working with Ditta Brian. He's so fun and and uh.
But this was Dylan's like first job that was on
a television outside of that webisode, so he didn't have
a ton of experience when when he had started. Um
seeing him blossom over the course of Team I'm talking
about a natural talent. Yeah, his his physical comedy is incredible,
(22:26):
and I feel like it really hurt it. I mean,
there's that that infamous scene where he falls from the
nut falls but he drops his body with his legs
hanging up on the Everyone remembers this one shot that's
on the show. But his a lot of his physical
comedy started coming out in this episode. Um they find
a dead wolfs body, styles notices wolf spain. He starts
(22:48):
pulling out a giant rebo wolf Spain around the whole
They dug, yes, there's a dead woman's body now. Um
so at nact three that cops arrive at Derek's home
arrest him. I love by the way Derek all episode two. Yeah,
and and Derek by the way, he was like younger
than me. Derek's sister, Who is it that's buried there? No?
(23:11):
Is it the sister? Did I just give it that away? No? No,
they're rewatching fair game, fair game. Um but um, I
love talking about the fact that Tyler Hecklin it was
somehow growing a five o'clock shadow at like five, because
he was younger than a lot of the quote good
high schoolers on set, and he was playing this brooding
(23:35):
young adults living in his layer. He was twenty two,
two or twenty one. Yeah, I was twenty three when
we started. I'm thirty five. Now you're younger than Hecker.
I am older than Heck Yes, Heck was early twenties.
He was early. Told you five o'clock shadow that boy
(23:58):
he grew here. Um, fun story because I'm telling the
story with j R. Because they're good friends in real life.
And I don't think you know this. I was you
read for Derek as they had. They said, you're close,
but no cigar coming for Allison, and then they read
for Lydia. Jeff was like, that's really good. Try it
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with red hair, and uh yeah. So so Tyler had
already been hired, and I saw him at the gym
um the night before he was going to leave for Atlanta,
and I made fun of him, you know, sort of nicely,
because we were set up on a blind date. Our
(24:42):
best friends dated. What did you not know this? Yes,
there's so many things going in my mind right now.
So before Team All started, Tyler Hecklin and I went
on a blind date like two years before. Let me
clear the first thing out of my mind. Y'all shot
the pilot first, right, and then there was a chunk
of time. Yes, before we went to Serious shot in
(25:04):
February of ten, and we went to series in October
and we re shot some of the stuff from the pilot.
So y'all had met back then? Oh no, we met
two years before teen Wolf. Okay, okay, okay, when on
a blind date. Um, our best friends were dating, so
they set us up on that blind date. It was
very quickly realized we're not for each other. And I
(25:27):
introduced him to a coworker of mine and he ended
up dating her for a couple of years. So we
kind of became friends because of this funny blind date.
And then I kind of offloaded him, this very handsome man.
I don't know offloading would be the word that she
wanted to us to to um, it was mutual. He
then ran to this this this he you know, tried
(25:47):
it out with my friend and it worked out for
a while and a couple of years they dated. And
and so when I see him at the gym, I'm
sort of poked fun of him at him, uh, joyfully
saying you're the perfect werewolf because you you grow hair
so quickly. There's no one else that can play a werewolf.
And it wasn't until I didn't even tell him. I
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read for Team Wolf because I just thought it was
done and gone for Lydia and I think we it
was like five o'clock, and by eight o'clock after I
left the gym, I got the call. But I was
also heading to Atlanta with him the next morning, and
I texted him saying, You're not going to believe this,
but I'm heading to Atlanta to By the way, I
read for Tea Wolf and I didn't tell you it
(26:30):
was it was private season, so you know, you don't
really bank on anything, and uh yeah, So that's that's
how I knew Tyler Hecklin and also new Ryan Kelly
at many many young twenties parties at Ryan Kelly's house.
No no, no, who else did you date on the show? Ian? No, no, no, no,
(26:51):
I mean just just Tyler Hecklin was the blind date.
But so, yeah, a few of us knew each other
before we started. I did not know that, yeah, and
then ironically, but the funny thing was, Derek was playing
this brooding, weird adult and I was the child on
the show, and so Hecklin kept making fun of me,
being like, I'm younger than you. How is this possible? Um? So,
I love that Derek the Eilish loved his relationship like
(27:15):
to the rest of Beacon Hills, and that was established
in an episode two. Yeah, but he did it well,
very well. Remember I mean yeah, I think of him
as like seven. While we were shooting that first time,
you know what I mean, he was a baby, yes, baby,
baby baby heck uh? Act four. Here we go. Scott
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notices Allison and Lydia holding Jackson's number one sign. That
was the first day I really had gotten to no Crystal,
and we kept talking about clothes. That was like our
our common ground because that was in the original pilot
of February two, thou shooting all those Now we're in
the audience and y'all holding up at number one side.
I remember that. I remember that, and he thought it
(27:56):
was all so hard it burns through little across Dick.
This is Scott. His eyes turned yellow for the first time.
I know if it's for the first time. Actually, was
I sitting I feel like I was there with Kate
or was that later in in in the first season?
Was it? I think it was later? All right, I
trust you more than mine, um, Scott here's Allison say
you can do it, Scott from the stands. Scott runs
(28:16):
back to the boy's locker room. Alison follows. She noticed
his broken glass and Scott's climbing on the ceiling full wolf.
She finds Scott and apologizes for acting weird, and the
sexual tension is very high Allison's dad. They finally kissed
and the episode two and Styles runs in and watches
and Scott decides he can be a wolf because she
(28:38):
handled his urges during the kiss. So thus the puberty. Uh,
you know, analogy begins of teen Wolf. Yeah. Uh. And
then Styles mentions Derek is out of jail, and uh,
the dead person's death was determined to be from an animal,
and we also realize it's Derek's sister who died. I remember, hm,
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that was the second episode, very very brief. Just wow,
there was a lot going on already in this second
I know, I didn't realize that that much had been
established by episode two. Yeah. Someone said, when was the
first time Alison and and and Scott kissed? I don't
know there are something like that. Yeah, did you guys
(29:23):
know the first time that they we have one? We
have one Team Wolf fan in the room, Sean, what
do you think did you watch the show, Sean? Watch nice? Yeah, Sean,
Sean Johnson Van Wow, alright, holy crap, we got rolling
fast and then that first season a lot. Yeah amazing.
(29:48):
And do you think tin Wolf should have been set
in the eighties because there was so much John Hughes
in influence. There was Lost Boys influence. Um, I felt
like we always had the buddy comedy eighties vibe between
especially the two boys of Tyler and Dylan. But yeah, no,
I think I think that's part of what was. So
(30:11):
how do we set it back? I? Oh you do?
Oh no, I think I think because you know, everything
goes in cycles, right, and so to to sort of
repeat that chemistry or that sort of feeling, but set
in a present world, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
I know the nostalgia, but presently because then if you
(30:32):
said it back in the eighties, then I think, because
it was already known, it's to show everything too on
the nose. Yeah, And I don't know. I don't know
that we would have gotten the I have a theory.
What is it that is true about the audience? You
know what I mean? However, however, stranger things I'll never
(30:54):
forget watching a couple episodes of Stranger Things and it
was the monsters in the Wall and I did this
about face like that in my tracks. This is a
Team Wolf episode. They had the same cadence, It had
the same buddy feel, It had the same innocence, but
with a dark underbelly. And we were a bit more
(31:15):
intense because we were teenagers versus middle schoolers. Um being
being the kid's age age range, what is the age?
What is the demographic of Stranger Things? Adults? Adults huge,
but it's it's nostalgia that's getting them back there. So
this is this is my point we have I see it.
So I don't know if we would have the same demographic.
(31:36):
I do believe it would have because Styles and Scott
I think would have evoked that same feeling for for
people young people watching Team Wolf. But I think we
would have potentially garnered a bigger demographic going back to
the eighties. I'll that's great and I'm with you. Have
(32:03):
I ever shared with you one of my favorite sort
of fan encounters. I was going to ask you, so,
I think it was Bobo's um did we take him
sailing for one of his birthdays, we charter a boat.
So it was that day and I got down to
the marina and I couldn't find the slip where the
boat was, and so I was kind of roaming around
and I finally I asked a couple of people. Nobody
(32:26):
knew it. Then I saw this this older gentleman, probably
in his sixties maybe older. Uh, beautiful white head, head
of hair and beard and a mustache. I mean, looked
like a captain, you know what I mean, looked like
a sailor. So It's like, excuse me, do you know
where this slip so and so you know this boat?
Didn't He goes, oh, yeah, that's back that way and that.
(32:46):
And when he goes, you look familiar to me, and
I was like a duo and he goes, yeah, he goes,
I know you. He goes, you're an actor. He goes,
what is it that I know you from? So I
was like, oh, Stargate because I'm thinking the demographic. He
was like, no, I've never said show. And I was like, oh,
and I didn't, you know, it's it's such an when
(33:06):
you get asked it. It's so I just kind of
stammered and stuffled and looked at him, and I was thinking,
I don't know what and then he went argent and
he said t when I went nope, nope, nope, nope,
you are not our Democrat. I was like, what is happening?
You never know? Here's the story he told me. He
said he got his grandkids on weekends and they were addicted,
(33:32):
so he started watching it to spend more time with them,
and he totally got He broke down the seat, he
was into it, talked about when my wife died, He
talked about Melissa, geared towards other you know what I mean.
But he talked about what Scott went through and Allison
like he was a fan that came from when he
(33:55):
spend more time with his Yeah, didn't that great? That's
an answer reason of why I love the people. It
can bring them closer together in their families. I wish
we had music to Q in right now. That would
have been a great moment. Really, post that's all about post.
This is a professional shop around here that I don't
act very professional. There was a there was a Ramen moment.
(34:18):
Max Carver and I were eating Ramen and a big
tatted guy came out of Labraya in Hollywood, and uh,
just headed straight for us, and I thought maybe we
like parked in the wrong spot, or you know, we
were kind of were parked in front of the shop,
and yeah, big old team will fan. So you know,
you never knew who was going to show up. I
(34:39):
want to ask you if you could play any other
character on the show. We've done this in conventions before,
but I want to ask you on a podcast, what
would you like to play? Do I have to say
that there's one no, you could say whatever you want
to say. I don't know that I would want it.
I mean, listen, I know that I have answered in
the past. Um, God, I think I may have even
(35:03):
said you once. I've said Kate. I definitely throughout our
conventions we've been asked that question, and whenever I get
asked it in that moment, I sort of kind of
go like, who you know what I mean? Um, they're
all great freaking characters. They all would have been to
explore and to play with and genuinely, um, but right
(35:23):
now sitting here across from Argent, I mean, I just
you know what I mean? Um, I would do it
for the sake of experience, but I I I love
what Jeff wrote for him. I love the journey that
Argent went on. Um, we had a we had a
darn good writer. Um. He knows how to write the
whole freaking room and unless everybody there, it's just great.
(35:45):
So I can't wait to step back into his shoes
and see what's happened. I'm excited. And when did you
know Team was a hit? When did I know? Well?
I knew in the first season, the first season out
myself from my back when it was airing, or when
you were shooting it. When we were shooting it. Okay,
I don't know why, but I was like, and what
was your favorite thing to eat at Jeff's pizza parties
when we would have episode screenings at his house from
(36:08):
bossa Nova? Did you remember what you would eat? I
think I eat everything. What didn't? I had the barbecue
chicken pizza is my favorite? Such good, Okay, I think
so I had one once. I had a piece of
I don't think that went down well, So I never
went back to that one. But I do remember. Yeah,
(36:28):
he started having to probably carry vegan pizzas, probably because
of you know, Tyler Posey was a healthy eater on set.
Man now I'm just kidding that boy had abs despite science,
single one of them. Oh and then, what was your
first memory of Russell? Because he's a he is a
(36:50):
funny character. Man, what was my first memory? Yeah, memory
or impression? I have mine Russell. I think unconsciously I
built a space within my head for only Russell. I've
never I've never worked with anyone like that. I've never
(37:12):
sat and had lunch. There's no one. Russell is um
a serious director on the show. For that, I don't know,
I mean it is, Yeah, can we just see him
as well? There's something special the way he speaks, the
energy that he has. But yet we all, uh you
can barely understand him half the time, barely understand, but
(37:35):
we know what he's call him Australian Ozzy Osbourne. It's
I mean, it's that's great, that is great. That's a
great way to put it. Australian Ozzy Osbourne. That just
says blood a lot more than even Ozzy Osbourne says blood.
So quick fire questions. This is where we're gonna have
to hit the bleep button. I'm not good with censoring. Okay,
(37:55):
here we go. Who is your favorite teacher? Throwing up Harper,
What great and what subject Harper was? Well, this was
like fourth grade, fifth grade, sixth grade, fifth and six. Um,
she was my home room teacher, so I started there.
This was in Calgary actually, and Mrs Harper was just yeah,
(38:18):
she was all of that sort of sweet, good, genuine
loved what she was doing, wrapped up in Did you
ever get to write her or tell her? I went
back very early on in my career and swung by
the school and she was still Wow. How many years later, oh,
holland it was quite a while she passed and not
(38:42):
too long, maybe eight years, Mrs Harper, good memories of
miss Harper. I had the same theater teacher as Frey
back in Dallas, Texas. And he rejected me and rejected
Frey and for I realized this sitting in the in
the cash chairs between the scene. Um, and he rejected
(39:06):
us for all the wrong reasons, like we didn't have
siblings in the program, so it really didn't behoove him
to really take us in. And and uh, this is
in high school. Oh yeah, yeah, the theater program and
and uh we just had a good chuckle because we
were sitting here doing it professionally, and so many of
those theater kids, you know, for for better or for worse,
(39:29):
just moved on and and we're in a part of
you know, didn't carry on professionally. So maybe him rejecting
did something something to fraud and I seriously, yeah, yeah,
but Mr Lindsay was was my saving grace and he
and his husband, uh, he was my ap English teacher.
And I cheated on a vocabulary test and I have
(39:49):
yet to write him to let him know I cheated,
and he knew I cheated, and he made me get
in front of the whole class and say the hell
and why don't you tell everybody how you did so well?
That yeah he did because he knew it, but I
never admitted it. And he and his husband were the
only ones to show up to my play outside of school,
and he brought flowers and the whole thing before I
had cheated on the test, before he knew that you
(40:10):
cheated before the test even happened. So the fact that
I did that under the peer pressure of this hard
vocabulary test, it's something I like, it's like a regretted
carry with it for the rest of my life. That like,
he and his husband had the the kindness and the
patience and the wherewithal to show up to because he
knew I didn't get into theater program. And he he
showed up to my on a weekend with his husband.
(40:32):
And so months later cut to this, you know, notoriously
hard into the year test and I took the cheat
uh packet and he knew and I and I plan
on writing him a letter to apologize to podcast. I know,
I know, but he was the coolest guy. Mr. Mr
Lindsey Man. Um Mary kill, Mary kill? Jackson, Derek Styles Jackson?
(41:06):
Who is the who's the middle of Jackson? Derek Styles Jackson,
Derek Styles Styles? Mary kill? Oh? Good lord, Um, I'd
probably Mary, I'd marry Derek. Um can kill. Oh that's
(41:30):
a tough one. Do I have to I have to
have to kill one? I mean, it could be a
very it could be love making session. Doesn't have to
be mean. Uh oh jeesus, Wow, that's unbelievably hard. That
really is them both? And then kill them both, okay,
and then last but not least. Oh. Um. I was like, yep,
(41:58):
that's the answer. There you go. I hope Derek doesn't
feel hurt that I didn't say, well, if we get married,
of course, we're gonna you have a very platonic relationship.
Um not if we're married, we're not going to I
think the last one. What's your favorite color? We'll start
willing with. Wow, Well I'm wearing blue pants. I'm gonna
say blue. Okay, Yeah, I think it's been blue for
(42:20):
a while. I gave you some relatively easy ones. I
think Jeff had some hard ones. Oh, here we go.
Last meal on Earth? Oh wow, yeah, my last meal. Boy,
with that one, that's maybe better than the color. Wow,
my last meal. I would love it to be Scargo
to start. Really. Yeah, I got a whole story there
(42:41):
with my mom and everything, and I love it. No idea.
You and I always eating that when we're overseason. We
have a tradition. We go to this one hotel and
we eat as cargo where in Paris? Why have I never?
I don't know. You can come with us next time.
Are you serious? Apera was like Aprile, Yes, and we
(43:02):
both are and those fields. Yeah, yeah, come on over,
we both are. If you're listening, Bobo, wow, I did
not really. Yeah, So I will start with Escargo and
then this is going to be a horrible combination, but
it's it's got to be. I love lasagna, but I
(43:24):
mean like like you know, cheaper like no, no, no,
like like you know, you know, my my when I
was living in Vancouver before I left Toronto, my partner
had a restaurant and and um, when the chef from
Toronto came out to Bancouver to visit, Uh, he stayed
(43:46):
with us and he was in He's an incredible chef,
and so he was like, what's you grad adition? Want
to make you something for it, you know, And and
we were like lasagna. So he freshen me pasta, and
I mean and what was inside of this thing was
it was a master still a restaurant in Vancouver. No, no no,
was your friend. She just made this. He was like,
you know, think of let me crash with you, like
(44:07):
of course, and he made lasagna and it was like
nothing I've ever And I always loved lasagna. You didn't
get the recipe. No, I would never try to duplicate that,
but I think it's put it into a category from
me where it's like it always was a fave. And
then that experience of what was between the noodles, I
was just like, yeah, lasagna is a it's a thing.
(44:28):
For me like I love it, so last me on
this scargo lasagna and then that's to some sort of
ice cream. I just love you love ice cream? Do
you like Jenny's ice cream filled dairy? I mean, yeah,
you're pretty healthy now with ice cream, but if it's
my last Yeah, have you been to Jenny's Splendid ice creams?
(44:49):
Jenny Splendid? Yeah, ice cream kind of s? You know this? No?
I did not what this? Have we ever met? What good? Lord?
Jenny splend ice creams man? And they've got really the
good dairy free ones. But Jenny's put ice creams there's
no air. So the thing that makes good ice cream
is a lot of like the butter fat and no air,
like for instance, thrifty or dryers or briers. A lot
(45:12):
of air not good ice cream. The thick ice cream
is Jenny's great, even salt and straw. I hate to
break to you guys, there's a little bit too much
are in there. But if you want really thick, good
ice cream, Jenny's. Where is this? I forget how arch
Mont get this stuff? That Hurst stuff comes out of
your mouth that's up there in the head. And I'm
just like, because I'm a Yelp kind of story. Even
(45:34):
I got a fight with the CEO of Yelp listen
on Twitter. I'm not surprised. I knows that you've gotten into.
Um where's Jenny's. You got hill Hurst, you got, you
got Larch month hopefully a sponsor of this podcast soon
to be uh and then you've also got Calabasas. You've
got where's the one on hill Hurst? Hill Hurst is
(45:58):
kind of near Maru. Okay, I think I've been. It's great.
It's great. Palmon Brittle, Texas chi k. I think I've
been there and it's kind I've had. It is delicious,
it's beautiful. Um, should we go there before we leave
two Atlanta? Wait? You're going to go before Jenny's is
in Atlanta? Stop? Seriously, absolutely remember, because I absolutely I
(46:21):
met Jenney's like twice a month. Well, so there's my
last meal, that's it. And then maybe something after the
ice cream, you know, like right before alcohol and alcohol,
I mean neither frozen margarita. Maybe maybe grony with bobo
if you're all there there. He turned me on too negronies,
that man in his NEGRONI. Um, yeah, okay, yeah, Well
(46:42):
we're signing off with Jenny's ice cream, which is a
way I don't mind a signing off. Thanks for coming
for episode two. Hopefully you'll come back. We did not
talk about my ins on FX. That's not the team.
This isn't the mind. I know, I know, but we
did my ins last we did mine glasses together and
then I would love to I think we might actually
win the award for the most people in the same
(47:04):
acting class from the same show, and it's because of you.
J are Born, Michelle. Are you well? Um um, I
think that's an interesting thing to bring up. We were
all in an acting class for a short period. But
um but I would say it was fun acting behind
the scenes and on screen together. I couldn't agree more.
Can't wait to do it again all Annie, thanks for coming,
(47:25):
Thanks for listening. Y'all. Follow us on Instagram at halliback
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