April 17, 2023 • 42 mins
The final episode of the first season is upon us and who better to join Holland than the “scariest mom on TV!”
Find out why Eaddy once made Crystal cry in a scene and how Eaddy is continuing the Teen Wolf stories…including a return from the dead for her character!
Like any season finale this episode has got its fair share of cliffhangers…but this time they’re being answered.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Helerback Now with me Holland Roden and I
Huart Radio podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to Hallerback Now.
This is Holland Roden and we have made it to
the end of season one. On this podcast of the
teen Wolf Rewatch podcast, we are on episode twelve called Codebreaker.
(00:22):
It aired August fifteenth, twenty eleven, a long time ago.
The synopsis is that Scott is caught in the middle
of a war between hunters and werewolves, and he enlists
the help of both of his friends and enemies to
stop the mysterious killings and win back Alison. The writer
none other than Jeff Davis, with the director Russell Mooka,
(00:43):
and we have a very lovely guest. Now technically she's
on three seasons of teen Wolf, but we couldn't pass
season one without having her on. Welcome Edie Mays, how
are you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm excellent. I'm most excellent.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
So how exciting that you have this great podcas cast
and iHeart radio is awesome. So here you are, like, yeah,
and I saw I think it started earlier this year
and uh yeah, I've been keeping tabs on that and
that's really I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I love it. That's one of my favorite things about.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Teen Wolf is the availability that this cast as a
whole and the crew have done to connect with.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The fans, you know, And yeah, that's one of the
best things about it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, I uh, you know, I've said it before. I
like off grid like lifestyles, and that's kind of my thing.
And and I've followed a few people that in that
sort of medium had started podcast and I thought, oh, interesting,
maybe people that have had their fill of teen Wolf
but they want more or another way to connect to
teen Wolf. This could be an outlet for them.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And so it's based on what I've read and the
comments I've read and folks so and yeah, I don't.
I think there's a whole vast group of folks that
will not have their full fill of Team Wolf.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So we're done bad for which.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I I wanted to have you on for the finale
because you're such a big part of season one. Obviously
you continue into the next couple of seasons. Alison has
a lot of heartbreak, uh and this episode was no
short of it. How did you find teen Wolf and
how were you casting? What's what's the story? Because I
actually don't think I know this so.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
In my opinion, for what that's worth, there are several
good stories behind it. First of all, Melissa and I
auditioned both for the role of Melissa call.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's right, yes, And I did learn this this year.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yes, yes, she's a good body of mine, and so
so it was fascinating to audition for that and then
end up. I mean that happens all the time, as
you know, and get it, get a different role. But
the disparity at the time, this is me being politic.
Let me see if I can put this properly. It's
not my strength to be subtle. There's a big before
(02:59):
COVID especially, there was a big disparity between Los Angeles
and any other market, and really that's where the decisions
get made. People are like, oh, but Atlanta's great. Is
it great for Yeah, if you're a gripper, an electric
or you do hair makeup or something, you know, But
as an as an actor, it's that's the rules that
(03:19):
come there are usually last and there or you know,
way down there. So so too at the end of
season one, I still I remember at one point during
season one, I won't say which actor it was, but
somebody said to me on set we were sitting in
(03:40):
a break and they were resetting behind us, and there's
all this action, and there was there were a whole
bunch of cast members and somebody was laughingly playing over
here and there and said.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
To me, do you even have a first name?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And and I went, it's yeah, and and of course
to me, I did, but in the script I didn't.
So season one, when that the in the finale, it
was that was in Atlanta and it was freezing cold,
and Jeff Davis, who was obviously worked, you know, if
(04:16):
there were more than twenty four hours a day, he
would work them all. But he happened to be there
and he wasn't feeling great, and it was late. We'd
run way over and me I was fine. I was,
you know, I'm sitting in my trailer, I'm taking a nap,
I'm dressed right, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
How it right right?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And so I'm the last scene and it's this scene
where they're going to shoot through the closet at me
and I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
At clothes and and it was this huge.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Monologue basically that I that I had with Crystal with Allison,
where where I very demurely was telling her and again
demure not my not playing to my strength. But where
I said to her, I was, you know, will your
dad will have to do this?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And your dad will you have talk to your dad?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
And so but we were way over and tempers were
stretched thin, and I come.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Out all fresh and bubbly. Hey you, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I've been sitting in my trailer drinking lacroix. I'm good
and and and so I think Jeff said, are you
ready to do this? I said, it's it's a long
it's a long bit. I said, but I'll nail it
for you in one if you give me a first name.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And he laughed out loud and funny.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He said, yeah right. And he said, well, what name
did you have in mind?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And I told him Caroline and I said he said, uhh,
which is yeah, so and it's what I always wanted
to be named. And uh and he said to me,
that's great. But I had a different one in mind.
I'm thinking Victoria. And I said, okay, I love it.
I love it very real there was it still had
(05:55):
that same feminine yet powerful feel, you know. So so
I went and I and I nailed this scene and
and and so I'm a mother of three in in
I r L in real life, and so my and
I'm I guess I'm kind of strict sometimes and so
and I'm and my children, I've always made them say
(06:16):
yes ma'am and no ma'am to me, like, hey, do
you clean your room?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, it's not okay, you know, it's yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And not from not not so that I had them
under my control, but that I'm a better parent because
if somebody goes yeah to me, I just.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Want to right.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So, so the lines in the in the finale, in
this big scene and I'm, you know, and I'm in
this tight little black dress and I'm you know, looking
at the closet and it's this dark thing, and you know,
and and and everything has just been revealed that Alison
now knows.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I just saw my boyfriend turn into a work right.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Right right right now, and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And so I did the scene, nailed it in one
and but now obviously we have to do multip takes
and you get it from different angles. And so at
point they have the camera on her, I guess they
turned and they were doing the reverse and and so
I'm just doing doing the scene again, and I said
(07:12):
and I turned her and I kept.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Saying, do you understand No, I need you to say it,
because she was.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Just nodding okay and just making me a little crazy.
And so at this point, so I turned around during
one of the takes and.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I go say it, and.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It began, and she burst into tears during the scene
on camera, and like tears sort of come there and
and I stayed there until they said cut and and
I went, I'm so sorry, Crystal.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So sorry about you know what.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I felt so bad, and She's like no, no, no, fine,
and plane and fine, and everybody there on set, every
crew member that were like, what did.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You just do to her?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And no, no, no, no, and then ended up being what
they kept and they what what Jeff told me later
was that he wanted to see a character arc for her,
for Allison from season one into more like a Buffy
the Vampire Slayer feel. Hello, anybody's seen the movie lady
and uh and and get her more into into that feel.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And they were gonna use me to help precipitate that
in to.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You certainly earned the name Victoria. That was. That's amazing.
I didn't know that story. We're gonna we're gonna take
you through the episode and then I have more questions
about that scene. But that was an amazing introduction to uh,
to the scene because I was gonna say, do you
remember the scene? Of course you remember the scene. I
love it well. So we start outside the school on
the bus is where we left off in episode eleven
(08:41):
where Scott jumps on the car. He turns into a
whrewolf Alison season for the first time, and he runs away.
Then we're at the lacrosse field. I'm laying there in
the field Lydia and Styles saying, you know, over my
dead body, you're gonna have to kill me, Peter, I'm
not leaving you. Yeah, yeah, and uh, and so he's
you know what, you can call Jackson. Jackson can can
(09:03):
come get Lydia, but you're coming with me. And Alison
at this point isn't shocked by the school buses and
her dad catches her before she falls and says she's okay.
I love the wood scenes because the camera work on
this show is incredible. I've been interviewing, you know, dp's
Jonathan Hall and directors. To watch an episode from that perspective,
(09:26):
I start noticing I've always noticed that the wood shots,
but the camera angles in particular, I've I've been more
hyper aware.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Of, especially at night. And and you know in.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Those Atlanta tree.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
In California, the way they I guess it was near
Griffin Park. I can't think anyway, but so the way
they would light the trees, you know, and then or
creating rain, like yeah, they it was masterful. It's a
big part.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think it's a character of teen Wolf essentially.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I agree, agreed, It definitely has an essence of feel.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Britt in with that comedy exactly, which I have many
questions for you of the comedy drama tipping point, which
you're so good at. But at this point we cut
back to the formal. Jackson's running out with Lyddy in
his arms saying someone help please, and Styles and Peter
had a lot of back and forth in this episode.
(10:20):
They were quite the duo. But Peter Hale is telling
Styles not to feel bad because if she loves to
become a were wolf, and He's like, oh great, once
a month I have to deal with her. And Peter's like, no, actually,
she's a woman twice a month. So I love that.
I don't know if they age well, but I actually
think they're fine personally. Jeff always has felt like a
big brother. And whenever he just like throws in some comedy.
(10:45):
You know, he is an hourly gay man, and and
he doesn't he has a lot of he doesn't have
a lot of girlfriends. He's like he loves women, but
he's not that I'm aware of, you know, he has
more guy friends and girlfriends. And so whenever he throws
like a woman joke in there, I always just like,
he feels like my big brother, and I'm just like
(11:06):
laughing at him, right, and how he's able, Like there's
such a closeness, like you said in our cast, And
I think that spilled over even as soon as season
one into the writer's room where and I.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Remember we were all in on the joke. I remember
we were going to lunch.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It was again like two in the morning, and it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was right so so, and it was just.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Me and Jeff sitting in the van driving driving over
to base camp from from the location and again season one,
and I hadn't, you know, seen him a lot, so
I it's just the two.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Of us in the van.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, yeah, And so I said, listen, I don't I
don't know how appropriate this is. But this show is
really smart, but I think it's really funny too, And
he said, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Thank you so much. I'm so much.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
He said that was something that he I've told him
that he's and I've told him that directly since then,
and that that that was something that was important to him,
and that that because there's tension and then release and
tension and release. And I think that that's important in
any project because if it's all tension and all the
then you know, and but it's what separates it. It's
(12:21):
what it's it's part of the team of Mark and
that's a result of Jeff Davis and and you know,
and and and Angela or or will you know people
that later later came along as writers maintained that, you know,
so I have a lot of respect for that. But uh, anyway,
I interrupted.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But yeah, no, the Jeff Davis moments is outstanding. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, we all all have that moment in the in
the van with the creator and you're like, oh, do
I say do I not say it? But Jeff, Jeff's
a special one. And I obviously I am a biased opinion,
but I would have that opinion if I had done
one episode. So I have questions for you, Kate and
(13:06):
Chris Argent. I'm taking this opportunity. In this scene where
they're at you know your house and they're arguing about that,
Kate tells, you know, Alison, the family, the family history
of the family business, and where do you think because
it wasn't played necessarily on camera, it wasn't bits, but
just where were you in the should we have told her?
(13:31):
Should we have not told her? Debate between Chris and Kate?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So I always read the whole script. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I didn't ever go through and just just read my
scenes or work on my stuff. So I read the
whole thing. That was always important to me to get
a full understanding in the show perspective. But particularly this
I found so I as victorious. When I say I,
I mean Victoria in this context. I found it offensive.
(14:00):
But she was a little nuts and not my side
of the family, so Kate, but fans, but it translated
on camera, fans thought.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
That that that Kate was Chris's wife.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And funny, really I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That that professionally speaking and show arc wise, that that
I found troubling. But more directly to your question, I
found it entirely inappropriate that her aunt would be the
one to tell her these things. She was she was
too young to know, this was something her father should do.
(14:36):
Her father and I had already in my mind, had
already talked about how it was going to happen. But
circumstances precipitated that her necessity to know. But I think
one of the lines and the thing is there are
things out there you're not ready to know yet.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And and because it put her in.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Danger, so I made I made the decision that that
for for Kate to have revealed things, you know. And
then there was the you know, the lighthearted the condom
stuff or the webbends or the you know whatever that
it was none of that was appropriate for her to do.
She was overstepping her bounds. And it was because she
(15:13):
was she was, you know, a little nuts. So but
you know, it's I think we all have that in
our family.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well so was that one family member.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
So so that was sort of how I resolved it.
But I never liked it. And and and then there
was so there was personal in real life stuff that
I was able to sort of translate to the screen.
I want tell my kids, there's stuff I wanted to
tell my kids specifically, and you know, I'd have been pissed.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And I know, Victoria, No, there was a way this
was going to be handled.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And Victoria, you know, in my mind Victoria Argent as
Victoria Argent, I had a thing, a way this was
supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Things were supposed to work.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Did not go down the way it was supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh, interesting, that's you got the real life mom perspective
on that. That's yeah, that's definitely a question that uh,
you know what bleeds into real life and you take it,
you take that on screen.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I didn't let my kids because of their age at
the time. I didn't the team watch a lot of.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
The a lot of this stuff. I didn't let them
watch a lot of teams. I was selective about what
they got to watch. But when I played for them
to scene, for example, where I said say it like
I like, you know, like I said, or where I
was angry or wherever I did that, my kids were
I was like, yeah, but they never thought I was scary,
like whatever, that's just.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Mom when you know. So, it's it's funny to me
that the rest of the world of the fandom thinks.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Like, you know, the scariest mom on TV or the
scariest moment.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Anyone not my monitor.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Somebody else dubbed me that, and I thought, really, because
I'm kind of like that in real life too, but
maybe okay, not like slicing myself open or hitting people
with cars.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
No, I haven't done that in real life.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But so well, you carry a lot of power with Victoria,
and that's what I loved how you played her, and
especially the scene in Allison's room. I love that you
picked out Red the sweater read as like, you know,
sort of a foreshadowing moment in teen Wolf. But I
do love how you say it doesn't matter what she wants,
it's what she needs. And to stay quiet? Did you
(17:28):
to stay quiet? I feel like how much of a
traditional mindset to Victoria have and how much of the
modern feminist mindset do you think Victoria brought into the
family or what? What? What was your perspective on her character?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
So my perspective is that I, as Victoria, knew things
that I I wanted to bring my daughter about, and
I had already had conversations with my husband and I
wanted to bring her to this reality that because it
was that she wasn't aware of in a in a
(18:05):
timely way, age appropriate is what I use in real life,
and and and what I wanted to do for the show,
so I wouldn't even say that. Ah, like it was.
It was such a departure from you know, wanting her
to know there are things you're you know, you're you're
(18:27):
not ready to know yet.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And and I didn't I didn't want her. I didn't
want her to know that because because of what it
would mean. But and then she had to. But but
even then I try to control. You know, it's like
holding sand in your hands, you know, it's it just
keeps slipping through your hands.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You can feel the man in the later in the
episode absolutely of like this is all unraveling from me,
you know, But for Victoria, I totally, I totally felt
that I love you know, I had no idea say it.
And in the way in which you said it was
improved and it completely changes the scene because you go
(19:09):
from this like sweet to the to the spicy. Like
the way you go back and forth is a little
psycho lovely though it's so lovely, and you know you do,
I mean, you married into a family of werewolf hunters. Things.
You know, things get a little dicey mentally when you
have a lot to take on. Yeah, and you and
(19:30):
you chose to. I mean, did you have any backstory
into marrying into a wearable family?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yes, so so that that was an arranged to me,
not an arranged marriage, per Sae, but one we knew
was coming. It was prepared my my in fact that
it's I wrote some fanfic about about that.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, so it's about I mean, because if you're going
to do all that backstory, it makes for great fan
fake you know, so I do on AO four, I
have some and fick.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It was good enough to get an invite from a
fan to do.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Fiction for those of you who you know for Kimberly
and Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
All right, right right, yes so fan fiction, yes, so
and every like even on like I never used aliases
like a lot of people do on fanfic and or
on social media and stuff, and I just don't because
you know me, and so so it's just it's just
my name eat on that step yeah, the on you know,
(20:32):
on on AO four if you're looking for fan thick
and stuff. But it's to me, it was keep a
facade for Victoria as Victoria keep a facade in the
real world. But the code and the the idea that
we protect those that cannot protect themselves. That was I
believed that before I ever met Chris. But so I
(20:55):
met a story. I wrote a story about meeting about
meeting Chris so in fan fake Yeah, and so, so
I knew that before I married him. I knew I
would marry and I knew about that world before him.
Wasn't like, oh I felt you know, I felt guy,
and was like, wait, what, No, I knew.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
About it beforehand. What is what? I decided that they're
almost like royal families.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
They are families that right, And so then it's okay,
you know, and I and I think that's what makes
it so nice to have.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's why Dylan O'Brien, why why.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
As styles is is the sort of the voice of
the real world where the audience member can really relate
through of Wait, is that is this a real thing?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
This is the thing right right? I love that I
didn't know that. Guys, go check out fan fiction Edie
May's backstory and the arranged marriage that are were wolf hunters.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, and the so that scene where I went from, oh,
you know, you really need to talk to your father,
and then when I just unloaded on her. While that
was improv that big, big speech was a lot longer
than what ended up getting used. And they cut and added.
They cut lines that made me as Victoria more demure mate,
(22:16):
you know, more passive. They cut those and left in
the listen to me kind of attitude. And because, like
I said, at that point, I think they had decided.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, Victoria is in the house.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah exactly, you know, it's like, uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So, and and I really would have I would have
liked to have seen And this is another thick I
wrote with a ficklet maybe, which is a tiny fiction.
Victoria argent back as a werewolf and people are like, oh,
it's too bad you died, and I'm like, hold.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
On a second, Well that'll that'll have We'll have to
bring you back for the second second episode hopefully, well
we will die.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It is not necessarily actually happened to.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
The sliding door effect. Yeah yeah. Well, so we cut
to outside of Alison's house and Alison or Anna in
the car they're about to leave. Kate says she can't
find the off on his own, and Alison's dad tells
Alison that they're going to talk about everything, and he
promises as they drive off, and Alison's mother, Victoria asked
Chris Argent if he can find the Alpha, and Chris
(23:21):
says nope, but Scott can, and we kept to the
parking lot. Another styles in Peter hales scene and he
asks whose car this is and Peter says his nurse.
He says he got better because the nurse is in
the trunk and the animal clinic. Scott starts to hear everything.
These dogs start barking, and Kate is driving Alison to
(23:45):
tends out to be the hospital, so she sees Lydia
and sees that there are these flashbacks of bloody Lydia
coming to fruition, and Kate's basically trying to convince her
that this is all real. These people kill, these were
wolves kill, and it's not to be taken lightly right
despite love, and so at that point Peter wants Styles
(24:07):
to track Scott and I love that the user name
and password Alison Alison again the humor between like the
stakes are high, like you say, and then it's just
showered with comedy it's definitely what makes teen wolf tein
wolf and gets into the crevices of people's hearts. We
then cut back to the hospital and Jackson is asking
(24:29):
where Lydia is and Sheriff has a great scene when
Jackson's like, hey, your son took him to the formal
not not ny right, And at that point in the
parking lot, Styles tells Peter if he does this, he
needs to promise that to leave Scott out of it,
and Peter says he needs Scott and Derek to do
(24:51):
it because it will save Alison, and that Styles will
do this because he has to save Scott. So cut
to the woods. Scott's on the top of a mountain. He
has this werewolf howl, and Derek answers that howl, and
everybody in town sort of here's that Derek reverberating howl,
right right right. I love that Scott takes upon himself
(25:12):
in the series finale of season one to start really
taking on the werewolf duties, so to speak, and and saying, hey,
I'm going to go and help Derek. Usually so all
I'm going to help Style them and help my friends,
but he really comes to the table with Derek and
unleashing him so that the hunter doesn't get another whack
and him with the bat. One thing I do love
about the next hospital scene is that, for just a
(25:33):
split second, sheriff thinks, oh, gosh, is my son something?
Is my son at at faults? Like why isn't he here?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
He?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
What is his role in this?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
He?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Exactly if all this other potty exists? What what is
what's happened to my son? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Have you ever had that suspicion with one of your
kids of like that moment of oh who could do that?
Oh no, could it be my kid?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Have I have?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I not? I mean today or like yeah, since I
haven't spoken to them yet today, Yeah, uh no, but
yeah yesterday and so and and again that my youngest
just graduated to high school last year, and they came
to the set and they again taking real life parenting
into into the show and being a parent there.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Who wants their daughter to have sex with a wolf?
You know? I don't think so. I don't know why
people got so mad at me for trying to kill
a were wolf.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I mean, like, would you want your daughter having you know,
relations with a were wolf? No?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You know, and all.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Of a sudden, you know, but but which is what
was always my defense. But yeah, there there have been.
It still happens where I still get phone calls with
my kids today again not today today, but you know,
uh at this at this point in life where they're like,
uh so and I have to try and figure out
all right, uh who were scenes just like that between
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the sheriff and like a second, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, that definitely still happens.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's so funny. Yeah, it's always fun to get the
in real life our imitates life moments. Well, what I
love is is that, Yeah, that exchange in the hospital
and then finally Styles shows up, and I love that
Styles is trying to get more information out of his dad,
but his dad says that a girl and his potentially
(27:26):
late twenties, not a young young ish girl. And I
think that's the first time that Styles starts to think Kate.
I think there was something a you know, that that
crosses his face that says Kate could have been this person?
Is it is?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Is it Alison with the pendant necklace but then late
twenties potentially.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Kate, right right? That was that was another really the
coin drop there.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, exactly exactly. So back to the hospital and Styles
and Jackson have this lovely showdown with your husband Chris Sargent. Uh,
do you feel like he's roughed up a few teenagers
before or is this his first?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Go?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No, plenty, it's such and which is which is so
phenomenal and another and another great example of of because
Colton is probably one of the kindest, gentlest souls and
to this day. And I just you know, when I
saw him back in January, when I like, I just
there's something when I see that that makes like I
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get tingly in my tea.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
He's just such a good man, just a good dude,
and then such a jackass.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
He totally and and and and even in the film
working in the humor, it's the the fact that he
it's and those are always my favorite.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It's the the villain that you hate.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
That you love and he did that and so yeah,
has he done had he roughed up folks before yet?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Plenty? Okay, but you know, yeah, absolutely? But which is
and and and to your credit.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
That the the lore, the pull between the honesty and
the humor and the integrity of Styles and and and
that loyalty there, but you know the strength and the
the sexiness and the excitement and intelligence of of Jackson.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You know that that Lydia had to face, you.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Know, un I love well, I just I mean when
when Bush comes to shove, Styles is the one that
really steps in when even with Chrissy goes your sister,
you know, he was the one that really takes him
to tasks. So Styles will walk in the face of fury,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
So Scott and Derek are now in the woods and
Derek says that something doesn't feel right. It feels just
too easy, and Scott says, well, when someone says it's
too easy, that's when something bad happens. I love like
the bell, like.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
What else could happens? It's not raining?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And were you a have you ever we were an
archery fan prior to Teen Wolf, because this is when
Alison starts shooting at Derek and shoots the tree, fire
blows up, and they had this moment where Kate's going
to be this psychopathic killer and one do you have
archery experience? And I too? Did you just love you
(30:23):
know Argent showing up and almost supporting the family in
that sense because you were already mad at Kate and
then pointing the gun right at Kate.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Right. So so yes, I have had archery experience every
like since summer camp and and taught it to my.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Kids as well.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I have about five acres of land and horses and stuff,
and so we were able to so we set up targets.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You know, I bought targets.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
But but longbows, like a hand carved long bow, which
is stupid hard and way.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, well the accuracies really aren't.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But but yeah, but that and and like because I'm
tall and I'm big and I'm loud when people you
used to joke with me about such an Amazon, which
I think they mentioned an insult which I took.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I did some research and I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Like, yeah, and the except the Amazon women always cut
off one bosom so that when they shot, they especially
in the shirt I.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Look at them.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
The facts we learned on holler back. Now Amazon Amazonian
women had had one bosom severed, well, it.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Would cut one off, so this string would it wouldn't
interfere with the string.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's that's something that I don't know if if if
if Crystal would have been comfortable with at any point.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
If she's if she was quite that committed to the
committed to.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
The role, would either goddamn Lewis is not playing Uh right,
that's crazy. What were your thoughts on Peter severing Kate's
(32:06):
Kate's neck, well, scratching at killing her.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It was a classic example of why that whole realm
is more dangerous. It's not romantic, it's not sexy, and
I and I know that's the point of the show.
And it's a very Romeo Juliet love story. And and
I am a Scalson you know fan. It is my
ot female one true parent. It's that it's still not
(32:30):
as a fan, but it's not okay. And and for
him to do that it did not bother me in
the slightest because it was I mean, uh, it was
like having to put an animal to sleep. And to me,
both as Victoria Argent and as eating like, uh yeah, no, sorry, lady,
(32:51):
that's what happens when you know and this is these
are dangerous things we dwell in and you don't mess around.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And and and Jill did such a great job. I
thought she was so fun. And also like you know, say,
similar to Peter, that Peter would have these really comical
moments and then just do these death define you know,
I mean just exactly just purely evil things. And I
(33:19):
feel like, you know, Jill's character, Jill had to do that,
had to play with that same balance, but almost less funny,
like she really had to had a hard line to
to scale as as the actor. And she was so
sexy and so fun but so scary at the same time.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Right right, well, and there's something about having that that
dichotomy or you know, were that many sort of opposing
senses that that that make it even even scarier, you know,
that that she is that funny and sexy and then
being able to twist like that like, oh but you
were not what I thought yet it that it is
(34:00):
off putting.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
And that's and that was the thing. She always kept
you off balance. And I you know, and I and.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
And I have not watched the podcast that you did
with Jill, but and and and I hope she talked
about this. But I remember on set one time we
were looking at the script and uh and Jeff was there,
and there were several other people and it was open
on a table, you know, and the crew was setting
up lights and doing all the hard work while we're,
(34:27):
you know, just reviewing the script and she and she
read something she went uh oh, oh oh, I don't
want to say too much right now, and she went,
oh wait I did that, and I was like, okay,
so yes, I don't know because she was worried, like
she would fly in for like five minutes, fly back
out for five minutes because she was doing you know,
(34:49):
other work.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So I get it, but she she hadn't had the
chance to read the whole.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Thing, so it was well, sometimes script would come out
quite late too, so you just didn't know, you know,
and so I.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Write and changing the day you'd walk into your trailer
and be like, oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Interesting, right right right. I do remember that. I just
was so sad to lose her because I just love
love Jill, such a fun, fun woman. But to round
out the episode, Chris says he isn't the only one
Scott has to worry about now, And there's this moment
(35:23):
obviously on the roof with Scott and Allison that the
werewolf hunter and the werewolf can be kind of one
for and she also knows that Scott has good intentions
although he's a werewolf and can kill and I love
that there's this bigger battle to go fight after season one.
But I thought that was a fun way to end
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the season, was we're kind of together, opposing sides are
kind of together about to go fight a bigger battle.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
That it that it becomes less about what your your
name is, you know, the whole Romeo Juliet thing, and
more about And that's why the code came to be
updated later, you know, the code, the code breaking, and
that both learned from each other and there was this
sort of symbiosis there that was really nice and and
(36:16):
and that's and that's I think a large part of
what made the show work so well and what resonated
with with people is that my enemy is my friend
when you know, when you have a common enemy.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Right, well, and that's good.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Somebody correct that in the comments, you know, right, the
enemy of my enemy is.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
My friend, exactly right. You're making sense, You're making sense,
you're making sense.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
That.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
That's why I love that that that Jeff took there,
uh took it there for the end of season one. Now,
quick question of the necklace. You said, I knew we
should have, you know, sort of developed this necklace or
passed down the necklace to Alison, do you have any
special pendance in your real life? Do you have any
favorite keeps akes that you wear on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
That so that I wear no other than my wedding ring.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
No, I wear spin I'm not wearing it now because
I knew I would do it during the show. But
I wear spinner rings and I've worn them for years
before they were a thing before, like fidget rings and
fidgeting fidget. Yeah, and I do that, you know, And
I would spend Spence Smith Smith It's been so I'm
not doing it acause I don't want to be distracted.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
But so other than that, No, I think.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
That if you barbecue those those those rings won't spend
as much or like a lot of like you know, salt.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Right, if you get certain kind of soap in there.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Right right, yeah, exactly right, if they kind.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Of grind to a yes. But it's I absolutely feel
like because I'm old now, is that being.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Things are far less important And what I get to
do and is is the show you my little pillow
hold on in search of adventures experiences. It really is,
it is, and it's right and I get it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
But you know, I'm sorry, I didn't make it tright.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But that's like I liked seeing the hail storm yesterday,
hail storm.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I oh, hail.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
That was one joke that I then, I don't think
I used in teen wolfin but I'm a big fan
of puns and which is the lowest sense of humor.
But but yeah, but no, So I don't think I
have anything like that, except there were so going to conventions,
as you know, because I remember seeing it happen with
you at at at cons and such. So going to
(38:45):
live appearances and having fans. I still have, like I
have a button that says I support Jeff Davis, and
I have I have a bracelet that's that's got very
it's got an arrow on it, it's got an anchor
on it. So I would go through the vendors and
buy stuff from from folks that that made fan art.
(39:08):
And so I have a little tiny vial of wolf Spain.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's in it.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
It's you know, it's it's small, it's like half the
size of my little finger, and it's it's got poppy
seeds in it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I hope they'rebbs that.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Somebody gave me that corked, you know, And and used
to where it is a necklace. So so those things
I keep an eye treasure. But but but really in
real life, there's.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, next, you know what you mean? I have a
there was a there was a cross stitch of Fiful
that a fan did for me once and it is, Oh,
you can bet your bottom it's hanging up in my
my TV room where I next to her food.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And yeah, and let me say, I haven't asked. I
haven't asked about Fightful because.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I know she's alive. She's good. You know, she has
arthritis and and a whole lot of other problems right now,
but she's she's currently asleep over she's good, she's good.
She's old, but she's okay. I know season two I
got my dog.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And I didn't want to ask because you know, but
but but I remember Fightful and Fightful.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Oh you're so sweet. I want to get it out there.
What's next for you? What's going on? What what would
you like everyone know about?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So next for me?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
So just before COVID, I had so one of the
things that I love, even though Christian Taylor said to
me in the lovely British accent, what would you want
to do that you know, and and and Russell looked
at me, like, what is directing and producing? So ever
since I was a kid, I've known. I remember sitting
and watching TV, you know, and back when they had
(40:44):
tubes in them back in the day, and watching cable
and watching watching stuff I should never have been allowed
to watch, and steering at it like this and thinking
I want to be I want.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
To grow up and be part of making things like that.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
That. Yeah, yeah, be the story. I'll be writing the
story or helping write the story as an.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Every after, as the screenplay and you know, in the drawer.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
But I've got fifteen projects just before COVID that are
ready to be released independent, I mean all independent things
ready to sell from television shows, reality TV shows, a documentary,
a really meaningful documentary called Driving Magic and uh and
so I've got fifteen projects that and COVID again threw
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that off track.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
A little bit, but it's getting back there. It's getting well.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
If you're if you're doing any of this out of Atlanta,
there's so much production heading to Atlanta as far as
the companies go and setting up financing and building studios.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Brand Studio saw that, Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, that's really exciting. Then I'll have a great outlet. Then,
oh I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Listen, You've been wonderful and I missed seeing you at
the comer because I didn't go to the party afterwards,
you know, but I'm glad I got to see you here,
and I'm really glad to know you when you walk
down on screen. When I saw you in the film,
my jaw dropped. In that white suit, I thought I
got to look like that and where I go.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
You've always been insane shape. You're known for that, so
so anyway, you look beautiful, obviously inside and out. Thank
you so much for coming. Thanks Byean, Thanks for listening. Y'all.
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This is Helerback Now with me Holland Roden and I
Huart Radio podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to Hallerback Now.
This is Holland Roden and we have made it to
the end of season one. On this podcast of the
teen Wolf Rewatch podcast, we are on episode twelve called Codebreaker.
(00:22):
It aired August fifteenth, twenty eleven, a long time ago.
The synopsis is that Scott is caught in the middle
of a war between hunters and werewolves, and he enlists
the help of both of his friends and enemies to
stop the mysterious killings and win back Alison. The writer
none other than Jeff Davis, with the director Russell Mooka,
(00:43):
and we have a very lovely guest. Now technically she's
on three seasons of teen Wolf, but we couldn't pass
season one without having her on. Welcome Edie Mays, how
are you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm excellent. I'm most excellent.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
So how exciting that you have this great podcas cast
and iHeart radio is awesome. So here you are, like, yeah,
and I saw I think it started earlier this year
and uh yeah, I've been keeping tabs on that and
that's really I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I love it. That's one of my favorite things about.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Teen Wolf is the availability that this cast as a
whole and the crew have done to connect with.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The fans, you know, And yeah, that's one of the
best things about it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, I uh, you know, I've said it before. I
like off grid like lifestyles, and that's kind of my thing.
And and I've followed a few people that in that
sort of medium had started podcast and I thought, oh, interesting,
maybe people that have had their fill of teen Wolf
but they want more or another way to connect to
teen Wolf. This could be an outlet for them.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And so it's based on what I've read and the
comments I've read and folks so and yeah, I don't.
I think there's a whole vast group of folks that
will not have their full fill of Team Wolf.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So we're done bad for which.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I I wanted to have you on for the finale
because you're such a big part of season one. Obviously
you continue into the next couple of seasons. Alison has
a lot of heartbreak, uh and this episode was no
short of it. How did you find teen Wolf and
how were you casting? What's what's the story? Because I
actually don't think I know this so.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
In my opinion, for what that's worth, there are several
good stories behind it. First of all, Melissa and I
auditioned both for the role of Melissa call.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's right, yes, And I did learn this this year.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yes, yes, she's a good body of mine, and so
so it was fascinating to audition for that and then
end up. I mean that happens all the time, as
you know, and get it, get a different role. But
the disparity at the time, this is me being politic.
Let me see if I can put this properly. It's
not my strength to be subtle. There's a big before
(02:59):
COVID especially, there was a big disparity between Los Angeles
and any other market, and really that's where the decisions
get made. People are like, oh, but Atlanta's great. Is
it great for Yeah, if you're a gripper, an electric
or you do hair makeup or something, you know, But
as an as an actor, it's that's the rules that
(03:19):
come there are usually last and there or you know,
way down there. So so too at the end of
season one, I still I remember at one point during
season one, I won't say which actor it was, but
somebody said to me on set we were sitting in
(03:40):
a break and they were resetting behind us, and there's
all this action, and there was there were a whole
bunch of cast members and somebody was laughingly playing over
here and there and said.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
To me, do you even have a first name?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And and I went, it's yeah, and and of course
to me, I did, but in the script I didn't.
So season one, when that the in the finale, it
was that was in Atlanta and it was freezing cold,
and Jeff Davis, who was obviously worked, you know, if
(04:16):
there were more than twenty four hours a day, he
would work them all. But he happened to be there
and he wasn't feeling great, and it was late. We'd
run way over and me I was fine. I was,
you know, I'm sitting in my trailer, I'm taking a nap,
I'm dressed right, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
How it right right?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And so I'm the last scene and it's this scene
where they're going to shoot through the closet at me
and I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
At clothes and and it was this huge.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Monologue basically that I that I had with Crystal with Allison,
where where I very demurely was telling her and again
demure not my not playing to my strength. But where
I said to her, I was, you know, will your
dad will have to do this?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And your dad will you have talk to your dad?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
And so but we were way over and tempers were
stretched thin, and I come.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Out all fresh and bubbly. Hey you, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I've been sitting in my trailer drinking lacroix. I'm good
and and and so I think Jeff said, are you
ready to do this? I said, it's it's a long
it's a long bit. I said, but I'll nail it
for you in one if you give me a first name.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And he laughed out loud and funny.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He said, yeah right. And he said, well, what name
did you have in mind?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And I told him Caroline and I said he said, uhh,
which is yeah, so and it's what I always wanted
to be named. And uh and he said to me,
that's great. But I had a different one in mind.
I'm thinking Victoria. And I said, okay, I love it.
I love it very real there was it still had
(05:55):
that same feminine yet powerful feel, you know. So so
I went and I and I nailed this scene and
and and so I'm a mother of three in in
I r L in real life, and so my and
I'm I guess I'm kind of strict sometimes and so
and I'm and my children, I've always made them say
(06:16):
yes ma'am and no ma'am to me, like, hey, do
you clean your room?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, it's not okay, you know, it's yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And not from not not so that I had them
under my control, but that I'm a better parent because
if somebody goes yeah to me, I just.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Want to right.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So, so the lines in the in the finale, in
this big scene and I'm, you know, and I'm in
this tight little black dress and I'm you know, looking
at the closet and it's this dark thing, and you know,
and and and everything has just been revealed that Alison
now knows.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I just saw my boyfriend turn into a work right.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Right right right now, and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And so I did the scene, nailed it in one
and but now obviously we have to do multip takes
and you get it from different angles. And so at
point they have the camera on her, I guess they
turned and they were doing the reverse and and so
I'm just doing doing the scene again, and I said
(07:12):
and I turned her and I kept.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Saying, do you understand No, I need you to say it,
because she was.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Just nodding okay and just making me a little crazy.
And so at this point, so I turned around during
one of the takes and.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I go say it, and.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It began, and she burst into tears during the scene
on camera, and like tears sort of come there and
and I stayed there until they said cut and and
I went, I'm so sorry, Crystal.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So sorry about you know what.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I felt so bad, and She's like no, no, no, fine,
and plane and fine, and everybody there on set, every
crew member that were like, what did.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You just do to her?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And no, no, no, no, and then ended up being what
they kept and they what what Jeff told me later
was that he wanted to see a character arc for her,
for Allison from season one into more like a Buffy
the Vampire Slayer feel. Hello, anybody's seen the movie lady
and uh and and get her more into into that feel.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And they were gonna use me to help precipitate that
in to.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You certainly earned the name Victoria. That was. That's amazing.
I didn't know that story. We're gonna we're gonna take
you through the episode and then I have more questions
about that scene. But that was an amazing introduction to uh,
to the scene because I was gonna say, do you
remember the scene? Of course you remember the scene. I
love it well. So we start outside the school on
the bus is where we left off in episode eleven
(08:41):
where Scott jumps on the car. He turns into a
whrewolf Alison season for the first time, and he runs away.
Then we're at the lacrosse field. I'm laying there in
the field Lydia and Styles saying, you know, over my
dead body, you're gonna have to kill me, Peter, I'm
not leaving you. Yeah, yeah, and uh, and so he's
you know what, you can call Jackson. Jackson can can
(09:03):
come get Lydia, but you're coming with me. And Alison
at this point isn't shocked by the school buses and
her dad catches her before she falls and says she's okay.
I love the wood scenes because the camera work on
this show is incredible. I've been interviewing, you know, dp's
Jonathan Hall and directors. To watch an episode from that perspective,
(09:26):
I start noticing I've always noticed that the wood shots,
but the camera angles in particular, I've I've been more
hyper aware.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Of, especially at night. And and you know in.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Those Atlanta tree.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
In California, the way they I guess it was near
Griffin Park. I can't think anyway, but so the way
they would light the trees, you know, and then or
creating rain, like yeah, they it was masterful. It's a
big part.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think it's a character of teen Wolf essentially.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I agree, agreed, It definitely has an essence of feel.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Britt in with that comedy exactly, which I have many
questions for you of the comedy drama tipping point, which
you're so good at. But at this point we cut
back to the formal. Jackson's running out with Lyddy in
his arms saying someone help please, and Styles and Peter
had a lot of back and forth in this episode.
(10:20):
They were quite the duo. But Peter Hale is telling
Styles not to feel bad because if she loves to
become a were wolf, and He's like, oh great, once
a month I have to deal with her. And Peter's like, no, actually,
she's a woman twice a month. So I love that.
I don't know if they age well, but I actually
think they're fine personally. Jeff always has felt like a
big brother. And whenever he just like throws in some comedy.
(10:45):
You know, he is an hourly gay man, and and
he doesn't he has a lot of he doesn't have
a lot of girlfriends. He's like he loves women, but
he's not that I'm aware of, you know, he has
more guy friends and girlfriends. And so whenever he throws
like a woman joke in there, I always just like,
he feels like my big brother, and I'm just like
(11:06):
laughing at him, right, and how he's able, Like there's
such a closeness, like you said in our cast, And
I think that spilled over even as soon as season
one into the writer's room where and I.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Remember we were all in on the joke. I remember
we were going to lunch.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It was again like two in the morning, and it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was right so so, and it was just.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Me and Jeff sitting in the van driving driving over
to base camp from from the location and again season one,
and I hadn't, you know, seen him a lot, so
I it's just the two.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Of us in the van.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, yeah, And so I said, listen, I don't I
don't know how appropriate this is. But this show is
really smart, but I think it's really funny too, And
he said, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Thank you so much. I'm so much.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
He said that was something that he I've told him
that he's and I've told him that directly since then,
and that that that was something that was important to him,
and that that because there's tension and then release and
tension and release. And I think that that's important in
any project because if it's all tension and all the
then you know, and but it's what separates it. It's
(12:21):
what it's it's part of the team of Mark and
that's a result of Jeff Davis and and you know,
and and and Angela or or will you know people
that later later came along as writers maintained that, you know,
so I have a lot of respect for that. But uh, anyway,
I interrupted.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But yeah, no, the Jeff Davis moments is outstanding. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, we all all have that moment in the in
the van with the creator and you're like, oh, do
I say do I not say it? But Jeff, Jeff's
a special one. And I obviously I am a biased opinion,
but I would have that opinion if I had done
one episode. So I have questions for you, Kate and
(13:06):
Chris Argent. I'm taking this opportunity. In this scene where
they're at you know your house and they're arguing about that,
Kate tells, you know, Alison, the family, the family history
of the family business, and where do you think because
it wasn't played necessarily on camera, it wasn't bits, but
just where were you in the should we have told her?
(13:31):
Should we have not told her? Debate between Chris and Kate?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So I always read the whole script. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I didn't ever go through and just just read my
scenes or work on my stuff. So I read the
whole thing. That was always important to me to get
a full understanding in the show perspective. But particularly this
I found so I as victorious. When I say I,
I mean Victoria in this context. I found it offensive.
(14:00):
But she was a little nuts and not my side
of the family, so Kate, but fans, but it translated
on camera, fans thought.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
That that that Kate was Chris's wife.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And funny, really I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That that professionally speaking and show arc wise, that that
I found troubling. But more directly to your question, I
found it entirely inappropriate that her aunt would be the
one to tell her these things. She was she was
too young to know, this was something her father should do.
(14:36):
Her father and I had already in my mind, had
already talked about how it was going to happen. But
circumstances precipitated that her necessity to know. But I think
one of the lines and the thing is there are
things out there you're not ready to know yet.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And and because it put her in.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Danger, so I made I made the decision that that
for for Kate to have revealed things, you know. And
then there was the you know, the lighthearted the condom
stuff or the webbends or the you know whatever that
it was none of that was appropriate for her to do.
She was overstepping her bounds. And it was because she
(15:13):
was she was, you know, a little nuts. So but
you know, it's I think we all have that in
our family.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well so was that one family member.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
So so that was sort of how I resolved it.
But I never liked it. And and and then there
was so there was personal in real life stuff that
I was able to sort of translate to the screen.
I want tell my kids, there's stuff I wanted to
tell my kids specifically, and you know, I'd have been pissed.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And I know, Victoria, No, there was a way this
was going to be handled.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And Victoria, you know, in my mind Victoria Argent as
Victoria Argent, I had a thing, a way this was
supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Things were supposed to work.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Did not go down the way it was supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh, interesting, that's you got the real life mom perspective
on that. That's yeah, that's definitely a question that uh,
you know what bleeds into real life and you take it,
you take that on screen.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I didn't let my kids because of their age at
the time. I didn't the team watch a lot of.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
The a lot of this stuff. I didn't let them
watch a lot of teams. I was selective about what
they got to watch. But when I played for them
to scene, for example, where I said say it like
I like, you know, like I said, or where I
was angry or wherever I did that, my kids were
I was like, yeah, but they never thought I was scary,
like whatever, that's just.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Mom when you know. So, it's it's funny to me
that the rest of the world of the fandom thinks.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Like, you know, the scariest mom on TV or the
scariest moment.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Anyone not my monitor.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Somebody else dubbed me that, and I thought, really, because
I'm kind of like that in real life too, but
maybe okay, not like slicing myself open or hitting people
with cars.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
No, I haven't done that in real life.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But so well, you carry a lot of power with Victoria,
and that's what I loved how you played her, and
especially the scene in Allison's room. I love that you
picked out Red the sweater read as like, you know,
sort of a foreshadowing moment in teen Wolf. But I
do love how you say it doesn't matter what she wants,
it's what she needs. And to stay quiet? Did you
(17:28):
to stay quiet? I feel like how much of a
traditional mindset to Victoria have and how much of the
modern feminist mindset do you think Victoria brought into the
family or what? What? What was your perspective on her character?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
So my perspective is that I, as Victoria, knew things
that I I wanted to bring my daughter about, and
I had already had conversations with my husband and I
wanted to bring her to this reality that because it
was that she wasn't aware of in a in a
(18:05):
timely way, age appropriate is what I use in real life,
and and and what I wanted to do for the show,
so I wouldn't even say that. Ah, like it was.
It was such a departure from you know, wanting her
to know there are things you're you know, you're you're
(18:27):
not ready to know yet.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And and I didn't I didn't want her. I didn't
want her to know that because because of what it
would mean. But and then she had to. But but
even then I try to control. You know, it's like
holding sand in your hands, you know, it's it just
keeps slipping through your hands.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You can feel the man in the later in the
episode absolutely of like this is all unraveling from me,
you know, But for Victoria, I totally, I totally felt
that I love you know, I had no idea say it.
And in the way in which you said it was
improved and it completely changes the scene because you go
(19:09):
from this like sweet to the to the spicy. Like
the way you go back and forth is a little
psycho lovely though it's so lovely, and you know you do,
I mean, you married into a family of werewolf hunters. Things.
You know, things get a little dicey mentally when you
have a lot to take on. Yeah, and you and
(19:30):
you chose to. I mean, did you have any backstory
into marrying into a wearable family?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yes, so so that that was an arranged to me,
not an arranged marriage, per Sae, but one we knew
was coming. It was prepared my my in fact that
it's I wrote some fanfic about about that.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, so it's about I mean, because if you're going
to do all that backstory, it makes for great fan
fake you know, so I do on AO four, I
have some and fick.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It was good enough to get an invite from a
fan to do.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Fiction for those of you who you know for Kimberly
and Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
All right, right right, yes so fan fiction, yes, so
and every like even on like I never used aliases
like a lot of people do on fanfic and or
on social media and stuff, and I just don't because
you know me, and so so it's just it's just
my name eat on that step yeah, the on you know,
(20:32):
on on AO four if you're looking for fan thick
and stuff. But it's to me, it was keep a
facade for Victoria as Victoria keep a facade in the
real world. But the code and the the idea that
we protect those that cannot protect themselves. That was I
believed that before I ever met Chris. But so I
(20:55):
met a story. I wrote a story about meeting about
meeting Chris so in fan fake Yeah, and so, so
I knew that before I married him. I knew I
would marry and I knew about that world before him.
Wasn't like, oh I felt you know, I felt guy,
and was like, wait, what, No, I knew.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
About it beforehand. What is what? I decided that they're
almost like royal families.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
They are families that right, And so then it's okay,
you know, and I and I think that's what makes
it so nice to have.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's why Dylan O'Brien, why why.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
As styles is is the sort of the voice of
the real world where the audience member can really relate
through of Wait, is that is this a real thing?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
This is the thing right right? I love that I
didn't know that. Guys, go check out fan fiction Edie
May's backstory and the arranged marriage that are were wolf hunters.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, and the so that scene where I went from, oh,
you know, you really need to talk to your father,
and then when I just unloaded on her. While that
was improv that big, big speech was a lot longer
than what ended up getting used. And they cut and added.
They cut lines that made me as Victoria more demure mate,
(22:16):
you know, more passive. They cut those and left in
the listen to me kind of attitude. And because, like
I said, at that point, I think they had decided.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, Victoria is in the house.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah exactly, you know, it's like, uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So, and and I really would have I would have
liked to have seen And this is another thick I
wrote with a ficklet maybe, which is a tiny fiction.
Victoria argent back as a werewolf and people are like, oh,
it's too bad you died, and I'm like, hold.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
On a second, Well that'll that'll have We'll have to
bring you back for the second second episode hopefully, well
we will die.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It is not necessarily actually happened to.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
The sliding door effect. Yeah yeah. Well, so we cut
to outside of Alison's house and Alison or Anna in
the car they're about to leave. Kate says she can't
find the off on his own, and Alison's dad tells
Alison that they're going to talk about everything, and he
promises as they drive off, and Alison's mother, Victoria asked
Chris Argent if he can find the Alpha, and Chris
(23:21):
says nope, but Scott can, and we kept to the
parking lot. Another styles in Peter hales scene and he
asks whose car this is and Peter says his nurse.
He says he got better because the nurse is in
the trunk and the animal clinic. Scott starts to hear everything.
These dogs start barking, and Kate is driving Alison to
(23:45):
tends out to be the hospital, so she sees Lydia
and sees that there are these flashbacks of bloody Lydia
coming to fruition, and Kate's basically trying to convince her
that this is all real. These people kill, these were
wolves kill, and it's not to be taken lightly right
despite love, and so at that point Peter wants Styles
(24:07):
to track Scott and I love that the user name
and password Alison Alison again the humor between like the
stakes are high, like you say, and then it's just
showered with comedy it's definitely what makes teen wolf tein
wolf and gets into the crevices of people's hearts. We
then cut back to the hospital and Jackson is asking
(24:29):
where Lydia is and Sheriff has a great scene when
Jackson's like, hey, your son took him to the formal
not not ny right, And at that point in the
parking lot, Styles tells Peter if he does this, he
needs to promise that to leave Scott out of it,
and Peter says he needs Scott and Derek to do
(24:51):
it because it will save Alison, and that Styles will
do this because he has to save Scott. So cut
to the woods. Scott's on the top of a mountain. He
has this werewolf howl, and Derek answers that howl, and
everybody in town sort of here's that Derek reverberating howl,
right right right. I love that Scott takes upon himself
(25:12):
in the series finale of season one to start really
taking on the werewolf duties, so to speak, and and saying, hey,
I'm going to go and help Derek. Usually so all
I'm going to help Style them and help my friends,
but he really comes to the table with Derek and
unleashing him so that the hunter doesn't get another whack
and him with the bat. One thing I do love
about the next hospital scene is that, for just a
(25:33):
split second, sheriff thinks, oh, gosh, is my son something?
Is my son at at faults? Like why isn't he here?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
He?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
What is his role in this?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
He?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Exactly if all this other potty exists? What what is
what's happened to my son? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Have you ever had that suspicion with one of your
kids of like that moment of oh who could do that?
Oh no, could it be my kid?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Have I have?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I not? I mean today or like yeah, since I
haven't spoken to them yet today, Yeah, uh no, but
yeah yesterday and so and and again that my youngest
just graduated to high school last year, and they came
to the set and they again taking real life parenting
into into the show and being a parent there.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Who wants their daughter to have sex with a wolf?
You know? I don't think so. I don't know why
people got so mad at me for trying to kill
a were wolf.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I mean, like, would you want your daughter having you know,
relations with a were wolf? No?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You know, and all.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Of a sudden, you know, but but which is what
was always my defense. But yeah, there there have been.
It still happens where I still get phone calls with
my kids today again not today today, but you know,
uh at this at this point in life where they're like,
uh so and I have to try and figure out
all right, uh who were scenes just like that between
(26:58):
the sheriff and like a second, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, that definitely still happens.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's so funny. Yeah, it's always fun to get the
in real life our imitates life moments. Well, what I
love is is that, Yeah, that exchange in the hospital
and then finally Styles shows up, and I love that
Styles is trying to get more information out of his dad,
but his dad says that a girl and his potentially
(27:26):
late twenties, not a young young ish girl. And I
think that's the first time that Styles starts to think Kate.
I think there was something a you know, that that
crosses his face that says Kate could have been this person?
Is it is?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Is it Alison with the pendant necklace but then late
twenties potentially.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Kate, right right? That was that was another really the
coin drop there.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, exactly exactly. So back to the hospital and Styles
and Jackson have this lovely showdown with your husband Chris Sargent. Uh,
do you feel like he's roughed up a few teenagers
before or is this his first?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Go?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No, plenty, it's such and which is which is so
phenomenal and another and another great example of of because
Colton is probably one of the kindest, gentlest souls and
to this day. And I just you know, when I
saw him back in January, when I like, I just
there's something when I see that that makes like I
(28:29):
get tingly in my tea.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
He's just such a good man, just a good dude,
and then such a jackass.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
He totally and and and and even in the film
working in the humor, it's the the fact that he
it's and those are always my favorite.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It's the the villain that you hate.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
That you love and he did that and so yeah,
has he done had he roughed up folks before yet?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Plenty? Okay, but you know, yeah, absolutely? But which is
and and and to your credit.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
That the the lore, the pull between the honesty and
the humor and the integrity of Styles and and and
that loyalty there, but you know the strength and the
the sexiness and the excitement and intelligence of of Jackson.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You know that that Lydia had to face, you.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Know, un I love well, I just I mean when
when Bush comes to shove, Styles is the one that
really steps in when even with Chrissy goes your sister,
you know, he was the one that really takes him
to tasks. So Styles will walk in the face of fury,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
So Scott and Derek are now in the woods and
Derek says that something doesn't feel right. It feels just
too easy, and Scott says, well, when someone says it's
too easy, that's when something bad happens. I love like
the bell, like.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
What else could happens? It's not raining?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And were you a have you ever we were an
archery fan prior to Teen Wolf, because this is when
Alison starts shooting at Derek and shoots the tree, fire
blows up, and they had this moment where Kate's going
to be this psychopathic killer and one do you have
archery experience? And I too? Did you just love you
(30:23):
know Argent showing up and almost supporting the family in
that sense because you were already mad at Kate and
then pointing the gun right at Kate.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Right. So so yes, I have had archery experience every
like since summer camp and and taught it to my.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Kids as well.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I have about five acres of land and horses and stuff,
and so we were able to so we set up targets.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You know, I bought targets.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
But but longbows, like a hand carved long bow, which
is stupid hard and way.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, well the accuracies really aren't.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But but yeah, but that and and like because I'm
tall and I'm big and I'm loud when people you
used to joke with me about such an Amazon, which
I think they mentioned an insult which I took.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I did some research and I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Like, yeah, and the except the Amazon women always cut
off one bosom so that when they shot, they especially
in the shirt I.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Look at them.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
The facts we learned on holler back. Now Amazon Amazonian
women had had one bosom severed, well, it.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Would cut one off, so this string would it wouldn't
interfere with the string.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's that's something that I don't know if if if
if Crystal would have been comfortable with at any point.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
If she's if she was quite that committed to the
committed to.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
The role, would either goddamn Lewis is not playing Uh right,
that's crazy. What were your thoughts on Peter severing Kate's
(32:06):
Kate's neck, well, scratching at killing her.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It was a classic example of why that whole realm
is more dangerous. It's not romantic, it's not sexy, and
I and I know that's the point of the show.
And it's a very Romeo Juliet love story. And and
I am a Scalson you know fan. It is my
ot female one true parent. It's that it's still not
(32:30):
as a fan, but it's not okay. And and for
him to do that it did not bother me in
the slightest because it was I mean, uh, it was
like having to put an animal to sleep. And to me,
both as Victoria Argent and as eating like, uh yeah, no, sorry, lady,
(32:51):
that's what happens when you know and this is these
are dangerous things we dwell in and you don't mess around.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And and and Jill did such a great job. I
thought she was so fun. And also like you know, say,
similar to Peter, that Peter would have these really comical
moments and then just do these death define you know,
I mean just exactly just purely evil things. And I
(33:19):
feel like, you know, Jill's character, Jill had to do that,
had to play with that same balance, but almost less funny,
like she really had to had a hard line to
to scale as as the actor. And she was so
sexy and so fun but so scary at the same time.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Right right, well, and there's something about having that that
dichotomy or you know, were that many sort of opposing
senses that that that make it even even scarier, you know,
that that she is that funny and sexy and then
being able to twist like that like, oh but you
were not what I thought yet it that it is
(34:00):
off putting.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
And that's and that was the thing. She always kept
you off balance. And I you know, and I and.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
And I have not watched the podcast that you did
with Jill, but and and and I hope she talked
about this. But I remember on set one time we
were looking at the script and uh and Jeff was there,
and there were several other people and it was open
on a table, you know, and the crew was setting
up lights and doing all the hard work while we're,
(34:27):
you know, just reviewing the script and she and she
read something she went uh oh, oh oh, I don't
want to say too much right now, and she went,
oh wait I did that, and I was like, okay,
so yes, I don't know because she was worried, like
she would fly in for like five minutes, fly back
out for five minutes because she was doing you know,
(34:49):
other work.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So I get it, but she she hadn't had the
chance to read the whole.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Thing, so it was well, sometimes script would come out
quite late too, so you just didn't know, you know,
and so I.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Write and changing the day you'd walk into your trailer
and be like, oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Interesting, right right right. I do remember that. I just
was so sad to lose her because I just love
love Jill, such a fun, fun woman. But to round
out the episode, Chris says he isn't the only one
Scott has to worry about now, And there's this moment
(35:23):
obviously on the roof with Scott and Allison that the
werewolf hunter and the werewolf can be kind of one
for and she also knows that Scott has good intentions
although he's a werewolf and can kill and I love
that there's this bigger battle to go fight after season one.
But I thought that was a fun way to end
(35:47):
the season, was we're kind of together, opposing sides are
kind of together about to go fight a bigger battle.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
That it that it becomes less about what your your
name is, you know, the whole Romeo Juliet thing, and
more about And that's why the code came to be
updated later, you know, the code, the code breaking, and
that both learned from each other and there was this
sort of symbiosis there that was really nice and and
(36:16):
and that's and that's I think a large part of
what made the show work so well and what resonated
with with people is that my enemy is my friend
when you know, when you have a common enemy.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Right, well, and that's good.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Somebody correct that in the comments, you know, right, the
enemy of my enemy is.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
My friend, exactly right. You're making sense, You're making sense,
you're making sense.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
That.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
That's why I love that that that Jeff took there,
uh took it there for the end of season one. Now,
quick question of the necklace. You said, I knew we
should have, you know, sort of developed this necklace or
passed down the necklace to Alison, do you have any
special pendance in your real life? Do you have any
favorite keeps akes that you wear on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
That so that I wear no other than my wedding ring.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
No, I wear spin I'm not wearing it now because
I knew I would do it during the show. But
I wear spinner rings and I've worn them for years
before they were a thing before, like fidget rings and
fidgeting fidget. Yeah, and I do that, you know, And
I would spend Spence Smith Smith It's been so I'm
not doing it acause I don't want to be distracted.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
But so other than that, No, I think.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
That if you barbecue those those those rings won't spend
as much or like a lot of like you know, salt.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Right, if you get certain kind of soap in there.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Right right, yeah, exactly right, if they kind.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Of grind to a yes. But it's I absolutely feel
like because I'm old now, is that being.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Things are far less important And what I get to
do and is is the show you my little pillow
hold on in search of adventures experiences. It really is,
it is, and it's right and I get it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
But you know, I'm sorry, I didn't make it tright.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But that's like I liked seeing the hail storm yesterday,
hail storm.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I oh, hail.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
That was one joke that I then, I don't think
I used in teen wolfin but I'm a big fan
of puns and which is the lowest sense of humor.
But but yeah, but no, So I don't think I
have anything like that, except there were so going to conventions,
as you know, because I remember seeing it happen with
you at at at cons and such. So going to
(38:45):
live appearances and having fans. I still have, like I
have a button that says I support Jeff Davis, and
I have I have a bracelet that's that's got very
it's got an arrow on it, it's got an anchor
on it. So I would go through the vendors and
buy stuff from from folks that that made fan art.
(39:08):
And so I have a little tiny vial of wolf Spain.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's in it.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
It's you know, it's it's small, it's like half the
size of my little finger, and it's it's got poppy
seeds in it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I hope they'rebbs that.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Somebody gave me that corked, you know, And and used
to where it is a necklace. So so those things
I keep an eye treasure. But but but really in
real life, there's.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, next, you know what you mean? I have a
there was a there was a cross stitch of Fiful
that a fan did for me once and it is, Oh,
you can bet your bottom it's hanging up in my
my TV room where I next to her food.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And yeah, and let me say, I haven't asked. I
haven't asked about Fightful because.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I know she's alive. She's good. You know, she has
arthritis and and a whole lot of other problems right now,
but she's she's currently asleep over she's good, she's good.
She's old, but she's okay. I know season two I
got my dog.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And I didn't want to ask because you know, but
but but I remember Fightful and Fightful.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Oh you're so sweet. I want to get it out there.
What's next for you? What's going on? What what would
you like everyone know about?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So next for me?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
So just before COVID, I had so one of the
things that I love, even though Christian Taylor said to
me in the lovely British accent, what would you want
to do that you know, and and and Russell looked
at me, like, what is directing and producing? So ever
since I was a kid, I've known. I remember sitting
and watching TV, you know, and back when they had
(40:44):
tubes in them back in the day, and watching cable
and watching watching stuff I should never have been allowed
to watch, and steering at it like this and thinking
I want to be I want.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
To grow up and be part of making things like that.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
That. Yeah, yeah, be the story. I'll be writing the
story or helping write the story as an.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Every after, as the screenplay and you know, in the drawer.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
But I've got fifteen projects just before COVID that are
ready to be released independent, I mean all independent things
ready to sell from television shows, reality TV shows, a documentary,
a really meaningful documentary called Driving Magic and uh and
so I've got fifteen projects that and COVID again threw
(41:31):
that off track.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
A little bit, but it's getting back there. It's getting well.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
If you're if you're doing any of this out of Atlanta,
there's so much production heading to Atlanta as far as
the companies go and setting up financing and building studios.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Brand Studio saw that, Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, that's really exciting. Then I'll have a great outlet. Then,
oh I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Listen, You've been wonderful and I missed seeing you at
the comer because I didn't go to the party afterwards,
you know, but I'm glad I got to see you here,
and I'm really glad to know you when you walk
down on screen. When I saw you in the film,
my jaw dropped. In that white suit, I thought I
got to look like that and where I go.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
You've always been insane shape. You're known for that, so
so anyway, you look beautiful, obviously inside and out. Thank
you so much for coming. Thanks Byean, Thanks for listening. Y'all.
Follow us on Instagram at Holler Back Now podcast and
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