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November 7, 2025 18 mins

We come to you with this special edition of Gazette to dissect the shocking end of the Netflix film A House of Dynamite. 
Was the film worth the end? 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Let's Kiss You Gilmore Girls Gazette with Amy Sugarman and
Danielle Romo, an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
This is a special edition of the Gilmore Girls Gazette.
Here's Why. Here is Why. Number one the big announcement.
I cannot wait till December eighteenth. This shows my anxiety.
I'm so nervous I'm gonna get like, oh winter cold.
Like I just am like, I do not want to
be sick on December eighteenth because I'm so excited about it.

(00:44):
That's why I'm gonna lock it down. You're gonna start
December fifteenth, Yes, Like, I'm just gonna not go near
anybody until the eighteenth and then I'm gonna letter writ
I think also because I have trauma from last year
because the neurovirus was going around. My niece's friend got
it and then my niece got it, and I was like,

(01:05):
oh my gosh, but I never got it because I
googled how do you avoid the neurovirus? And I followed
it to the tea.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
I for sure thought you were going to get it.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
And I did not. Yeah, I was like, I'm absolutely
going to follow all the guidelines. So much to talk about,
mostly House of Dynamite. This is a special edition. I
don't even know that we can get a tie into
Gilmore Girls. Is there any way to connect House of
Dynamite to Gilmore Girls. We will work on that while
I tell start which is fine, all right, Jackie perfect.

(01:41):
Nobody wants this is picked up for season three. That
has happened since we all last spoke. So that was cute.
I saw a little cute little instagram about that. Yeah,
Christian's calling the whole cast and telling her calling the
whole cast and that Aaron Foster is quite funny. Oh yes,
I know. I think I told you. It's a funny
little instagram.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
The way I did, we knew this was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Right, Hello, Like, thanks for the most obvious breaday news ever.
In other breaking news, I ordered the Gilmor Girl's crocs.
I don't know if they're officially crocs. They might be
fake crocs, but I ordered those. I think I'll wear them.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Oh, there you go, They're so cute.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
My son has little baseball crocs and those are only shoes.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
He knows how to like prop the Gilmor.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Girls crocs fake crocs. I don't know if their crocks
are fake crocks, but.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Are they real? I don't think they're crocs.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
And I'm hoping that what I ordered and I will
send somebody the receiptle me dollars. So I hope the
gibbets come with them.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah, I hope.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
That it's not like, buy the gibbets separately. That's going
to be a bummer for me. I sort of tried
to figure it out, and I bought it through Instagram.
I'm not gonna lie, so I was not on any
kind of a legitimate site.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
When I first saw this picture, and when I'm looking
at it now, I thought it was an AI generated.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well I bought something like did I just do my
credit card?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I mean there's no comments on this Instagram?

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh no? Did I just get totally hoodwinked?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Oh my gosh, you might have gotten hoodwinked.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
It went through the shop pay thing, you know that
shop pay you guys? Did I buy a fake thing?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I don't even want to open the link?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Do it? It seemed real? I fully did it?

Speaker 4 (03:33):
I get a virus?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
No, you're not gonna get a virus. It's just my
credit card's probably stolen. But that's why I thought it
was safe. It didn't ask for my credit card. It
did it through the shop pay, so my credit cards.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Say, oh yeah, if you did it shot pay, you're fine.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'm pretty sure. Let me make sure. But that's I
think I'm good. But hold on, I'm going back to
last night so much. I thought they looked fake too,
but I was like, I think they're real. Oh my gosh, Emma,
now I'm scared. You have to everyone now, this is
now the focus. Let me go back here. Hold on,
I know I did it last night.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
I think you could be right.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Thank you for your purchase. We're getting your order ready
to ship. Okay, GMG Premium clogs forty nine ninety five. Well,
we'll see.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well, do I need to cancel my credit card? No,
it says view your order or visit our store. I'm
forwarding this.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Yeah, I think if you had shot pay, you're okay.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I think it was. I think you're right. I'm so.
I think it's real.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
I'm excited to see if you get these card me too.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Oh my god. I'm more just worried about my credit card.
But I think, I mean, it's very legit. I have
an order number, the whole thing. But maybe they're just
very clever. But it felt real, felt real, and I
think I did it through shop I can. Can you
just see what I did? Anyway, Okay, let's talk about
what we're here to talk about. House of Dynamite. You

(04:57):
finished it?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
I finished it this morning, so I had my partner was.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
Out of town, so I'm just like, you know, single
parenting for a few days, and so my only time
to myself to watch these shows is after my son
goes to bed, and he was having a little trouble
going to bed. So then I was like, okay, when
am I going to have time to watch this? Because
I also had to watch other Bravo shows and things
like that too.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I know it's a busy life we have. It's very busy.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Watching this at eight o'clock in the morning. First thing
was something.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Strange. Time to watch it?

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah, heart palpitations, look get that. But the ending I
did not appreciate.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
So I don't want to spoil it.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
It's been out for a minute, so it'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So spoiler alert, spoiler alert, are you going to watch
House of Dynamite? Past pause? Go watch it? Come back there?
Is no ending.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
There is no ending. You get no resolve, and you
don't know you're seeing.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
It's interesting because I read an article from the official
Netflix called to Doom, and Catherine Bigelow said that she
wanted to take us through like the major power players
of if this were to actually happen.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Which I appreciate it. That's what I'm right. I liked that.
I like that we get the president's side, we get
that lady's side, we get the guy from that other
show's side, we get nay, yeah, yeah, you get everybody yes,
And so it's like, what would this would be in
real life?

Speaker 6 (06:22):
And what like kind of eighteen minutes to make this decision.
The main plot, by the way, is if a nuclear
war has started. So there's there's a big nuclear coming
towards us.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Something's going to and then the two missiles that are
supposed to shoot it down are like failed, protective system
don't work.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Failed, and so it's a big like could this actually happen?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
How about the bunker where everybody goes? I was like,
can I get a ticket to that?

Speaker 5 (06:50):
I googled that exists?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
It was very The Day after Tomorrow, No, that movie
where Elijah Wood got the ticket into the bunker with
legally Sobsky, Like, what was that called? It was sort
of the Independence Day, the taileone version. I can't think
of it, but whatever, So I gave you enough for me.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
I live in San Diego and we have me or
mar we have you know, all these things going over
our head jets, I see.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Bright, I go on, were you around when they shut
down the five? I heard they shut down the five
for some.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
Exercise and it was a big mess side so it
was like fairy minutes. So I didn't go towards that anyways.
There's traffic always an ocean side, right.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
The five is brutal. Yeah, I'm just gonna shout that out.
I feel pretty safe.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Because we have multiple like military you know, people here
in camps. But there's always like something up there that
I'm like, there's like these cool I don't know if
they're drone planes.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Or whatever, right, they're cool looking, and I'm like, wow,
that's cool.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Once had a crazy thing. I was driving like north
of Santa Barbara and something crazy was going on in
the sky and I literally was like, are we okay?
And I think it turned out to be like Elon
Musk's testing something. It was weird that was like very
scary where you're like, h what is that? So do

(08:11):
you think the ending was good that they leave it hanging?
Here's my thing? How would she possibly? It's a whole
ten more movies if like, like when I went into it,
I was thinking I'm getting The Day After or you're
too young. There was this movie in the eighties called
The Day After. It was when like because I was

(08:31):
a kid and it was like the big sort of
like everybody was fearing nuclear war. And I remember having
from like my elementary school in the eighties, and I
remember having drills in my elementary school like get under
your desk, and it was like that's not gonna work. Remember,
my desk is not solving this situation. So there was
this movie called The Day After and it was Steve

(08:54):
I remember, Steve Gutenberg and John Lithgow and Joebeth Williams
and all Jason Robards, all these people, and it was
about the Day After and literally it was this huge
TV event and parents were told don't let your children
watch this because I was it was nineteen eighty three,
so I was like nine, right, So parents were literally

(09:14):
told do not let your children watch it. I don't
think I actually watched it until it was in my twenties,
and like I was like, I guess I can watch it.
And I think I watched it on some old time
like you two be type type of thing, like I
don't even know how I watched it.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
It's not too soon too close like the ninety it's
nineteen eighty three and it's nuclear war.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
That's why they did it to show like it was.
It was like groundbreaking. How accurate is it? I don't know.
It seemed accurate. It was so so terrifying, and it
was like gross, like it was very what's the word
for gross? Like you were concerned, like you're like, what
is that? And then there was a big like then

(09:55):
I think there was a sort of a after the
movie air there was sort of like a news thing
came on to talk about it, like I can remember
it all. So I thought, Okay, is this House of
Dynamite going to be just the day after where I'm
watching like the Destruction. I went into it not knowing it. Guys,
It isn't that. It's much more what Jackie's saying. It's

(10:15):
just a movie about the eighteen minutes and you see
the eighteen minutes from like five different perspectives or something. Yes,
But the thing that everyone's sort of like, oh, is
it just ends at zero and you don't know. You
don't know did it go off, did we fire, you
don't know anything.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
It ends on Adri's Alba, who plays the president, which
I appreciate it, and I appreciate that they didn't do
their reveal until halfway through the.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Movie that he's yeah, you only hear his voice. Very
cleverly done. The whole thing was clever.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
Yes, And I'm like, I would vote for him, but
a person, and it ends on him president, what's your decision?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Because and then it just ends and it just ends,
and it's.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
Like, either he's going to retaliate because this could be
like a big nogu or war because it's.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I was going to wait and see what happens, is
going towards Chicago or something.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Pago Chicago nine million?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
How about the guy who had the daughter in Chicago.
He doesn't tell her and then he's going to the helicopter.
Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I didn't want to say it trigger warning. It
was so that was gnarley, do you know what I'm
talking about? The guy that jumps off the building.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
I didn't see that part, did I was I looking down.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
You just if you if you looked away for a second,
you'd miss it. It was very quick. That was so gnarly. Oh,
listen to this. This is the day after. Not House
of Dynamite, but this show I'm talking about from nineteen
eighty three. The program originally aired in nineteen eighty three.
It remains the most watched TV movie in US history.
Guess how many people watched it?

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Fifty million?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
One hundred million people, one hundred million people. Like how
many of you watched the Super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (12:01):
I don't know, but Friends Friends season series finale got
forty million, So I just guessed.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
One hundred million people, And I'm like, whoa. ABC set
up one eight hundred hotlines to calm people down during
and after the original airing. It was gnarly like. I
didn't watch it for years later, and now it would
be interesting to rewatch it again because it wouldn't totally
like you would you would be like, oh it's a
bit dated, yeah, but you'd it was like, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
That are the fact that we're like dedicating an episode
to this film is what Catherine Bigelow wanted to achieve
total because she wanted to create conversation and wonder could
this really happen, and to make it as realistic with
like these government officials trying to decide the fate of
the world with.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
This right and you get like no answer, who knows
what to do? Like exactly, it's just like, well, very good. Yeah, No,
it was very It was good. And I had a
couple of friends who were like, I don't want to
watch it. I don't want to watch it. And I
would say to them, like, what they're worried about isn't
actually doesn't not You don't actually see that in the
in the show, Yeah, because they didn't want to watch

(13:11):
the day after part. Like I think people my age
are very triggered by like anything the day after because
it was so yeah, really, oh my god, little trivia.
In the FX show The Americans, they depicted the Spy
family watching the film with their FBI neighbor.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh cool.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
I need to try again on the Americans. I need
to like start from the beginning on that.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yeah, it was good.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
I need to watch it again. It was kind of
racy in parts too, there's like dirty stuff. So okay,
our next thing is all is Fair? So is it
called all is fair?

Speaker 5 (13:45):
All's fair, All's fair, like all's fair in love and war?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Right, right? Right?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
So there's Kim Kardashian, Sarah Paulson, Glenn Close, Nisi Nash. Yes,
the fact that it has a zero percent, and maybe
it's is it still have a zero percent? We should
see in as we're take this morning. It had a
zero percent, and we're taping this a couple days when
you're listening, We taped this a couple days ago. Okay,
so should I watch it for.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
The zero percent?

Speaker 6 (14:10):
You should watch because it is horrible, But yeah, I
love the fashions.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
It looks bad by the way it looks bad.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
I watched the first episode and it's so bad that
I just want to keep watching because Kim Kardashian is.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Horrible, horrible, it's really bad.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yeah, I love the fashions, but like.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
So, do you know how to look at rotten tomatoes?
How do you tell what its score is? The tomato
meter says six percent, Now, oh that's really bad, but
the popcorn meter says sixty four percent. That's just I
don't know how you read Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
The Tomato meter is with like critics like it collects
all the okay reviews and all that.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Okay, Well, I'm going to watch it and next week
we'll talk about or later this week. I don't know
what Dana is, how about it? How bad it is?
And maybe I'll like it. I don't know, we don't know.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah, I tell me.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Do you give it a zero?

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Zero?

Speaker 7 (14:58):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
My god? It is horrible, worse than the movie Cats.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
I never watched Cats because I was turned off by
all the zeros.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Can you think of another terrible show as bad as
this one?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
I can't right now. I watch Hallmark movies and love them.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
So Hallmark movies are not bad. They're fine for me.
If something's bad, if I don't continue, like if I
start ten minutes and then I go, I'm out. I
can't watch this.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Well yeah, yeah, I mean my meter for like bad
stuff and cheesy stuff is pretty like low because I
like Hallmark, I like rom coms.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I hate horror movies. So it's like, you know, I'm
not well.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
I'm excited to see if I give it a zero. Yeah,
I'm excited to see if I give it a zero, Okay,
maybe I won't. Maybe I'll give it a five.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Ten what is our score to ten?

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Ten?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
We go zero to ten. Maybe I'll give it a ten.
I don't know. We're gonna find out. I watched the opening.
There was something on Instagram that was like, the opening
scene with Kim Kardashian driving in a car going into
some mansion just was boring. I was like, I don't
she's peeking out a dress. Oh yeah, is that actually
the opening scene of the show.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
No, it's not, it's not.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Is there any cute guys in it?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
And that even didn't give it to a one.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Jim Kim's husband is very handsome, but he's a bad
actor too.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
So now do you think Ryan Murphy just did this intentionally?

Speaker 6 (16:20):
I think Ryan Murphy did this for the headlines of
Kim Kardashian of all this cast.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
It says, Hulu debuts Kim Kardashian's new series to bad reviews.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Kim Kardashian's new series, that's the headline. And because they're
using her popular you know image, WHOA So we're.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
All gonna just watch I believe it now has a
six percent. If I'm reading this correct, well, I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Great.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
What do you give? Let's give House of Dynamite a score.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
I would say a seven point five.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I was giving it a seven. We're right on same
page seven. It's not like amazing, but it's worth watching.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
It's worth the conversation and the one dream.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'll watch anything above a five or or a zero obviously.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Anyway, I talk to you guys.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Bye bye bye.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
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