October 6, 2025 • 43 mins
Happy Anniversary Gilmore Girls! From Milo Ventimiglia, to Yanic Truesdale, Sean Gunn, and Jared Padalecki. Celebrate with us as we take a look back at our most memorable guests!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all in again.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh let us you.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hi Am all in Again with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The date is October fifth, two thousand. The WB is
turned on and you hear of the song. There she
goes with a beautiful brunette walking down a quaint little
town street of stars hollow, popping into a diner and
begging for more coffee from a guy in a backwards
hat and flannel shirt. This was the beginning of Gilmour Girls,
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the show that twenty five years ago led into our
hearts with its fast talking mother daughter duo relationships and friendships,
and a small, quirky town that felt like home. What
do you want to celebrate with you by taking a
look back at some of our most memorable guests of
the podcast. Let's dive into the behind the scenes stories
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of how it all came together. Was some of your
favorite stars my Low vent Emilia as Jess Mariano. How
did we meet? Well? Do you remember the first time
we met?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Oh? Man, I don't remember the first moment, I think
I very much, just remember that first day of filming.
What I remember is just diving right in like like,
no pleasantries, no bullsht, to be like this is Scott,
this is mine, Like this is we're gonna find this
is gonna work, you know, and too what was always
funny to me was, dude, you and I were always
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like really cool and engaged and had a lot to
talk about. But of course we're playing these characters that
you know, Jess was. He was a punk kid who
didn't want to hear it from anybody. And you know,
Luke was losing his mind with this kid that he
got saddled with from his sister. And and you know,
could who you and I were could not have been
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more opposite than who Jess and Luke were. But also
where Jess and Luke kind of got to, I think
ultimately was closer to who you and I were in
terms of like like relationship and whatnot, you know, because
I think I think, you know, Jess grew up, just
learned some lessons, and Luke had been through some stuff
and that's all fascinating.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Would you do it again if they wanted to do
some more episodes You're in life part sure?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I mean, the thing the thing is this is like
I can't ever get away from it. You know, It's
it's for me knowing that like you and Lauren and
Alexis and probably just about everybody else in the show
would show up, and on top of it, it'd probably
be Dan and Amy there writing their asses off. It's like, yeah,
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why wouldn't I if it would feel like it's there
for the right reason versus the wrong reason, like and
we all know those wrong reasons where shows think that
the show is bigger than the characters, so they'll try
and bring it back just to get more money. And
it's like, yeah, but are you are there really more
stories to tell? That's that's where I always kind of
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go back to the nostalgia of the past, of stories
that we were a part of. Is are there still
more stories to tell? Have these characters grown to a
point where we actually really want to see more of them,
We want to understand where they've been, We're going to
discover something new. So I think if they did want
to bring it back, and if it was it was
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Amy and dam at the Helm and you guys are
all showing up, I'd be a jerk to not show up.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Chad Michael Murray is Tristan? Do you think Tristan had
true feelings for Rory.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Understate?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Not even questions, not even questions.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
What would you have liked to see them explore more
on the relationship or would you have liked to explore
that relationship with her more? Because I think that's one
of the things that I mean, it left me wanting
so much more. When you exited that series, you were
no longer there, So that relationship, to me, had the
most It was so fraught with potential.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, and well they built it. They built it, and
you know, I will take responsibility.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's on me that you know.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I don't think the true depth of that relationship ever
came to fruition. It's on me.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
There was an episode in season two where Tristan goes
off to military school in North Carolina, i e. Being
Dawson's Creek, i e. Being One Tree Hill where we
shot in North Carolina. That was military school, my friend.
As an actor, you know this, trying on different clothes,
different costumes, different walks, different talks, different fields, getting up
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in the morning and having a fresh shirt. It's different, right,
And sitting in the same character for too long can
get stagnant, and we always forget how blessed we are
when we're in those moments, right, because creatively, you can
get stifled. Not that the character was stifling. They did
a great job. But I was so young that I
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needed to find out who Chad is, Who is Chad
is an actor? Where can I go? What can I do?
And you know, it led to me discovering so much
about myself that I genuinely wouldn't be the man I
was today. Without making that decision, you know, I could
have stayed there and spent six seasons on.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh so they offered you a full deal.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
But yeah, we had the discussion, and for me it
was I had at the time, I had a deal
with Warner Brooks. When the opportunity came through to stay
on Gilmore and really see, I just wanted to know
more about me, and I said, you know, I'd love
the opportunity to continue to look and find out what
that thing is that is And One Tree Hill came
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around and there was the choice between Lucas and Nathan,
and I remember that decision I had to make, and
Nathan had a lot of trysting qualities in him on
the One Tree Hill. On One Tree Hill, Lucas was
the moral compass and I hadn't played that. Yet at
that point in my career, I was always playing the
bad way, whether it was Dawson's Creek Kilmore Girls, whatever
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it was. And so I chose the moral compass and
I wanted to go a different round discover more about myself.
And that's that's that's the truth, Scott. I laid it
out for you, and you're like sitting in the barber's chair.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I just unveiled my seating Keiko againa as Lane Kim.
So what did you like most about Lane and what
did you like least about Lane?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I liked that she.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Had to.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Care about two things. One she cared deeply about her
mother and the other one she would care deeply about
her own obsessions and her own independence. And I like
characters that have that want two things that don't easily
fit together. That's just fun to play off of, to
play those two wants off of each other.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
The thing that I like.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Least about her is that you know, you have all
of this build up in that character, and I don't
think that she ever got to fly. You put so
much pressure on this character, which is fun and what
you need in comedy. But I wish that she had
had more moments of.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Fulfillment.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think I think there's a lot there's there's a
lot of frustration I have with that character as a
fan too, or and as someone who got to play her,
I would say that's the thing I like least about her,
that there.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Was more potential to flesh out that character and and
and you know, with augmented storylines and and and conclusions.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah more uh uh. I think she just had a
hard life, which is fun for comedy. But I I
don't know, And maybe this wouldn't make a better show,
but I think selfishly I wish that she had had
maybe more fulfillment. It's at least with the music side
and the independent side of her, because we get to,
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you know, touch base with her ten years later in
the in.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The what about a spin off show you and.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
Let's do that?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
There's so much more story to hell people, let's uh,
let's uh, let's spin her off, right.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And it's like, who's going to write it?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Right?
Speaker 10 (08:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Sebastian Bach as Gill going from being on stage in
front of millions to acting in front of a crew,
What was that transition like for you?
Speaker 11 (08:53):
Well, I think about filming The Gilmore Girls and I
think about like each episode was one hour long, and
there's not a lot of the TV shows like that
anymore that I can think of. And what I enjoyed
about it was.
Speaker 12 (09:10):
We all got along like as a cast and a crew.
We all I mean I wasn't there as long as you,
but in my experience, everybody was like having fun together
and we all were like on a mission to make
something cool that everybody was on a team, and I
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missed that. I loved the feeling of, like you know,
it was a big cast, it was a big crew,
but we.
Speaker 11 (09:39):
Were all on the same page as far as making
something that we were all proud of and getting paid
every Thursday.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Was the original plan to have you on for more
than one episode or did that grow as times that grew? Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 11 (09:55):
I became friends with Amy and Dan. We would go
to the Rainbow couple of times, and me and Dan
bonded over old Judas Priest and Rush and he's a
real rocker, Dan, he and as arguing with your band my.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Band indeed indeed ariel Kebble as Lindsay, did you remember
reading the script and seeing that you were getting cheated
on with Rory? Do you remember how it felt.
Speaker 13 (10:24):
Yeah, you want to know how messed up this is.
I remember reading the script. I actually thought the cheating
made more sense than us getting married. I remember reading
the script where we got married.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
And I was like, what.
Speaker 13 (10:39):
That was harder for me to wrap my head around.
I don't know if that just means I'm really messed up,
but I because we were just so young and we
were so fresh in this relationship. I was really trying
to wrap my head around, Okay, we just took this
jump to marriage. So I guess by the time the
cheating came, I was like, yeah, of course, you know,
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like what else was going to happen?
Speaker 14 (11:04):
Right?
Speaker 10 (11:05):
So, yeah, I don't know what that says about me.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
But why do you think Lindsey didn't directly confront Rory
after she found the note?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
That's a great question.
Speaker 13 (11:19):
I think.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Deep down she always knew.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
You know.
Speaker 13 (11:26):
It's like I remember that episode where she's like baking
him cupcakes with gummy bears on top. You know, it's
like she's doing all these things to just these acts
of service, to just show her.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
Love and this commitment to.
Speaker 13 (11:40):
Him, And you can feel, even if someone's not saying it,
you can feel when someone's not all in right, and
so I think I think she felt like dang, I
wish I was wrong, but.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I was right.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Grantly Phillips as the town Troubadour? Did it all begin
with Gilmore Girls and you being cast as a town troubadour?
Speaker 15 (12:06):
Oh goodness, well this would have been about.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Two thousand, right, five years ago? Yeah, yes, yes, okay, right.
Speaker 15 (12:15):
You know I had been with Grantly Buffalo vocalist, you know,
in the band Grantly Buffalo and all that, and and
around this time I was kind of starting to go
out on my own, working on my first solo album,
and that was about the time that I got this
this invitation. Do I want to come on this show,
this new show and portray the town Troubadour? And so
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it was it was great timing because you know, all
of a sudden, I wasn't on the road all the
time I was recording. I was kind of just wide
open to whatever the future wanted to throw at me.
And there it was. Gilmore Girls. Had no idea that,
you know, beyond one appearance, that it would you know,
involve you know, so many seasons and there's this incredible lifetime.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
How many how many episodes did you end up doing.
Speaker 15 (13:03):
Do you remember there might have been like I'm going
to say maybe twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's pretty good. Did you notice a hike and album
sales or record sales? Uh? More people showing up at
your on tour when you were touring well as a
result of the show.
Speaker 15 (13:20):
Well, you know what, I Uh, it's interesting some and
this it still occurs. The ripples continue to this day.
You know when I when I go out and play,
I typically meet people to come to the show.
Speaker 16 (13:32):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (13:33):
Some people that know Grantly Buffalo, some people that have
followed my solo stuff, and then a whole other group
of people that it's because of this program, right that
they come to the show.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I can't walk down the street in Amsterdam, ken you anymore?
I can't. You can't you know, it's like crazy. You
have to jump into the canal just I do. Swim away?
Don't you make you? Amic As Sherry, you played Christopher's
girl friend, eventually became his wife and mother to Gigi.
Tell us about how the audition process and all that.
Speaker 17 (13:59):
How you get the.
Speaker 18 (13:59):
Wrong Actually I tested a whole bunch of times and
got really really close to getting.
Speaker 19 (14:09):
Loralai and and just at the end of the day,
like the Studio Network, they're like, oh, it just doesn't
feel right for whatever reason.
Speaker 18 (14:19):
Right, It's like who knows why.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
People, But I was just I was like, I was
so excited.
Speaker 18 (14:23):
I was like, oh, I love this script and I
love Amy. So I was heartbroken, not gonna lie, But
then I was really excited that Amy just invited me.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Back to play.
Speaker 19 (14:36):
You know, this kind of kooky character that came in
and I guess tortured everybody.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
She was.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
She was interesting.
Speaker 18 (14:46):
What I liked about her is that she was innocent
in it all.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
She was very.
Speaker 19 (14:52):
Hi, I'm you know, so good to meet you, having
no idea that that the entire.
Speaker 18 (15:00):
Town and social.
Speaker 19 (15:02):
Group, you know, looked at that character as a getting
in the way. You know, how dare.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
She Jackson Douglas as Jackson Belleville. How would you describe
Jackson in your own words or Arnold Swayt Schwarzenegger's words
or yeah.
Speaker 20 (15:27):
I don't know, you know, it was it was an
interesting It was really an interesting role because I think
it was just kind of a I mean, the best
way that I can describe it, at least the way
I feel about it, is just a hyperboleized version of me.
You know, it's funny how you would live life, and
they would all of a sudden end up in a script.
(15:47):
I got named the president of the Homos Association, and
a month later later we were doing I was being
elected the town selectman, you know, because I don't know,
Amy just seemed to think that my life was hilarious
and just needed to use that for something. It was
so easy, I mean, the character was just so much fun,
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and I got along with everybody so well that it
just it really did become effortless. The hardest thing was
just to use somebody else's words, you know, try to
It's like, oh, I wouldn't speak that way, but I've
got to try and force my mouth to, you know,
say it a certain way.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Or and plus you get to, you know, work with
Melissa McCarthy Forgod's Well, yeah, was out.
Speaker 10 (16:37):
It didn't.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
It didn't feel like.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Right exactly because we've said on the show, on the podcast,
you know we could I could see because I haven't
seen the episodes, right, so I'm watching for the first time.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
It's a whole thesis of the podcast, and you.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Know, the talent on her from the very first moment
you see her is so glaring and apparent, and.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
Just like, wow, did you see it too?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You must have seen it, right.
Speaker 20 (17:05):
I guess I felt it, you know, And I guess
I'm really really fortunate that I felt such a wonderful
personal connection with her that I think if I were
to oh my god, I mean now that you mention it,
I kind of just got shivers. How if I looked
at it the way that you described it, I think
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I would have been really intimidated, and I don't think
I would have been able to come even close.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Jared Pedlicky as Dean Forrester, was Gilmour your first acting
gig that you got hired for?
Speaker 17 (17:40):
Not technically so when I was a senior in high school. Well, okay,
I'll go back a little bit further. Between my junior
and senior year of high school. I want a nationwide
contest to be a trophy presenter at the first annual
Teen Choice Awards.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And that meant stood there on stage, I.
Speaker 17 (17:56):
Held onto a surfboard, and when Freddy Prince Junior would
win Best Kiss for sheet all that, I'd give it
to him and I'd you know, usher them off stage.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And at the after party, I met a manager.
Speaker 17 (18:06):
Who I'm still with to this day, Dan Spielo, who's
also a producing partner, and he's like, hey, you know,
do you act or what's I was like, yeah, you know,
I'm acted in school, done speech and debate and plays
and this, and then I love acting, and so well,
here's my card, you know, let's keep in touch. And
so I went back to San Antonio to do my
senior high school. I flew out during spring break of
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my senior year, so February during pilot season, thank god,
and I got a pilot called Silent Witness, which was
for NBC and it didn't get picked up, and so
you know, my parents were like, well, okay, you know,
you did it. You gave it a shot. And then
the check came in for the pilot and they were like,
following your dream, son.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I used money.
Speaker 17 (18:53):
I used that money to road trip out. I put
some aside for student loans and whatnot, and I drove
out to California with my papall my mom's dad, stayed
with my manager at his house and did some auditions
and I think that first week or two weeks or whatever,
and these are back. You remember two thousand like if
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you were if you were a teenage white dude, there
was a role for you in every single project that
was being made. And so I got tons of auditions
that they're like, hey, this new kid in town.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
He has acted all throughout school.
Speaker 17 (19:27):
And so I booked a guest spot on Er, I
booked in a movie called A Little Inside, and I
booked a four episode guest star stint on Gilmore Girls,
this show that hadn't aired yet. And funny enough, when
I booked the re recast of Dean Forrester, you know,
the show hadn't been picked up yet. I was just
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a co star, I think at the time. And I'd
also been offered this independent movie I Forget then that
Boys on the Run I think it was called, which
was like ten times the money, and I got offered
another that was like six times the money. And then
I got off with Gilmore Girls, which hadn't even aired yet,
and I was, you know, this this kid who grew
up in a seven here s Griffet house in San Antonio,
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going like money, money, money. My my agent and manager
were like no, no, no, no, you know we think that
the show, which I hadn't read yet, I hadn't seen obviously,
it hadn't aired.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
They're like, we think the show has has legs. It's
a great show.
Speaker 17 (20:26):
It's super intelligent, it's funny, it's charming, it's heartwarming.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
We think you should do that.
Speaker 17 (20:32):
And so thank god they convinced me, I was still
seventeen at the time, to shoot four episodes on the
whole show called Gilmore Girls that hadn't aired yet.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
You know, a couple of independent movies.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Paul Anka as himself, a bunch of first hear about
Lorelized Dog being named after you.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
I think it was right from the inception, you know,
artbeat later, I want to get out there, obviously, and
you know, I became a huge fan of the show.
Obviously it was a great show, well written, et cetera,
et cetera. But from the inception, you know, probably what
after the first couple of weeks, everybody came around and
I heard about it, and I thought it was cool
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because it's so international. I've been an international creature, but
I was ultimately hearing from everybody all over the world.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And so you were aware of the show before you
found out about it.
Speaker 9 (21:30):
Friends were watching it. I think my kids were watching it. Right,
you know the show. I mean, we're not talking about
something obscure. This show was like everybody loved it, So
I was very much aware of the show. Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And and then you made a cameo in the cold
open of season six, episode eighteen. Tell us how that
came about that black and White.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Well, I got the call and I said, yeah, let's
do it. I think we did a couple. When I
first got the call, I was very happy to do it,
you know, I thought, yeah, natural for me. And they
were great to work with. They were just a fun
group of people and great bright knew what they were doing,
and that was very comforting to me.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Right, do do fans approach you about your appearances on
cal Morn Girls.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
I'm still do fans. I got friends, I got people
who did at parties. He always comes up and you know,
I hate the phrase, it is what it is, but
it is what it is and it was great to
be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Kathleen Wilhoyt as Luke's sister lives.
Speaker 21 (22:34):
Working with Michael was great fun when we did the
wedding scene and his brother came on the show. Then
I got to see the Delawise kind of family dynamic,
which is just full of love and light and silliness
and laughter. I mean that is quite a family and anyway,
so I really enjoyed that. But I remember the highlights
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for me were King was on the set once and
Sebastian Bach and Carol King were on a golf cart driving.
I don't know where they were going, and I was
about one hundred yards away and Sebastian Bach says.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Kathleen and I turn around.
Speaker 21 (23:19):
I might have been with a friend or something. And
I turned around and I was like, he goes, come
in here.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I said, hold on a second.
Speaker 21 (23:27):
Oh, he says, Carol wants to meet you or something.
So I'm just like swirly eyes. You know, I've been
a huge Carol King fan my whole life. I run
to the golf cart and then he looks at me
and he sort of blinks and he was like and
then who like looks And then I said, Hi, I'm Kathleen.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He goes, no, not you.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
The pa.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
I was like.
Speaker 21 (23:54):
And then the pa who I was with or something,
she was like, oh, Carol, that's Kathleen. Sebastian, this is
Kathleen too. She's in the.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Cast or whatever.
Speaker 21 (24:03):
It was, but getting to meet Carol King was huge highlight.
I've been a huge fan of my whole life.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So did so you met she was on the Uh? Well,
it was that during the series of the reboot because
I met her on the reboot. I never met her
on the series.
Speaker 21 (24:19):
Oh, she was at the she was on the lot.
I don't know if she was on, but I didn't
get to be on the reboot. And my agent called
me and she said, you need to call Amy and
say you should be on the reboot. And I'm like,
I'm not going to call her, and like, if she's
not putting me on, then she doesn't want me on. Gross,
I'm not that guy.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
That's what it needed. It needed, it needed Lizen TJ.
It needed. It really did well.
Speaker 21 (24:44):
It turns out I'm available.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I think Truesdale is Michelle. Do you consider Michelle to
be rude or just honest?
Speaker 10 (24:56):
I think honest, honest, but in a context of different culture,
you know, because Michelle, Michelle in Paris is not rude.
They're they're all on, they're all like him. They put
him in the context of an America.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
Rude because people don't speak their mind right right right.
When they do, it's because they're being rude. He's just
and the French love to have an argument, right, you
would think they're fighting, but it's just they love the
conversation and the benter.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
And arguing about the objective, just.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
Taking on purpose the opposite side of absolutely like dissect.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I mean, you just can't sit there and eat the dinner,
you know, you gotta.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
Yeah, so yeah, I don't think he is rude.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, okay, all right, So here's a little bit of
a personal question. Do you think people think that you
are prickly in real life?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yes? They do. They do.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
Yeah, they do because well they think because when you
do something well in this business, as you know, people
think you are that person. Right, So they're always first
of all shocked that when I open my mouth when
they've never seen me in anything else that I don't
speak like Michelle.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I was like, well, no, this is a character I'm not.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
But and then they're like, oh, you're so nice, You're
so sick.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I was afraid to say hi to you, right right, right,
right right right.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
So there's a little bit of that perception that you
are that character. But quickly they realize how charm me, I.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Am Sally Strugglers as Bebett. If you could jump back
in time to filming any episode or season, what would
it be?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Oh Gilmore?
Speaker 16 (26:57):
Any episode or season of the Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Oh Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
Oh M.
Speaker 16 (27:05):
When did I have the most fun? Probably when we
did what was it called A Year in the Life?
Speaker 5 (27:10):
What was it a?
Speaker 12 (27:11):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (27:12):
We came back.
Speaker 16 (27:13):
We all hadn't seen each other in several years, and
then we did those four ninety minute movies, and I
felt so lucky. I felt like I hadn't been invited
to my high school reunion. And the reunion went on
for you know, a month. I was like a kid
at Christmas, dancing around the Warner Brothers lot, and Rose
Abdu said to me one day, Oh, here comes one
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of their their trolley's what do you call those caravan
things where they drive people around to take a tour
in the studio bus the tram right right? And she says,
let's just stand here and give them a thrill. We
were on our way to the steppe uppy truck where
you could get snacks, right, and we were admonishing one
(27:54):
another about how we didn't need snacks, but we were
getting them anyway, and then we stopped and kind of
poe so to give the group on the Trama thrill.
They didn't recognize either one of us.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
We both felt so awful.
Speaker 16 (28:08):
We got more snacks than we even originally wanted.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Sean Gunn as Kirk, how do you even explain the
character of Kirk?
Speaker 22 (28:20):
Well, I'm I'm fortunate that I I read this great
piece in The Atlantic. I should be I should shout
out to the writer's name, but I don't remember her
name the top of my head. But it explained it
way better than I ever could. Where they were. She
talked about Kirk as a man child, And you know,
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I always looked at him as being a guy who
who who like obeyed the rules at all costs, but
would would also would also duck them when necessary.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Like I don't I don't know how I thought.
Speaker 22 (29:04):
Of it, but but when you think of Kurt as
like a nine year old and a grown man's body,
it all adds up, right, you know. It's like when
you think of him as it's like, oh, this is
like a little kid.
Speaker 23 (29:16):
Who both he's like he'll he'll lie if he needs to,
but not in a bad way, only because maybe he
thinks he's not going to get caught.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
And uh.
Speaker 22 (29:31):
And yeah, I think Kirk is you know, a grown
man who lives alone in his mother's basement.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Like what, he.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Very very entrepreneurial.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, it words everything like.
Speaker 22 (29:47):
Him all the time, you know, like what, whatever you
expect of me, like, I will do it, and also
I have to do it or I'll get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Rose Abdu is Gypsy. You got to do some pretty
pretty intense scenes with Milo. Tell us what it was
like working with him.
Speaker 24 (30:13):
I just remember he bugged Gypsy so much like Gypsy
has no love for Jess as you well know. So
of course, because I'm such a method actor, I have
no love for myla. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I actually
I remember saying to him, you really have like a
young James Dean quality. And he was like, God, everybody
says that to me.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
What a horrible somebody.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
How could you do that?
Speaker 12 (30:33):
I yelled at him.
Speaker 24 (30:34):
I yelled at him and said, you should be thankful,
you should be thankful that people compare you to James d.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
He was terrific.
Speaker 24 (30:40):
I mean, he was so I felt like he was
so in character all the time. You know, he really
was fantastic. And I love the one where you you
come to ask My favorite episode is you come to
ask me about the car, and that's where that guys
are stupid lying and I go, no, but he had
a bag with a dollar sign on it or something
like that, right, and that scene, I had to a
nineteen marks to come out on the underneath the car
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and take the wrench and go over to the thing.
And you were so nice to me. But we really
got it done fast. But that was one of those ones,
like you said, with him, that could have gone horribly
wrong where we really like.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
This cast is so gifted and really it's like colored tape.
Speaker 24 (31:17):
On Oh my god, you guys, there's so much tape
on the floor. You have no like and everybody, every
character is a different color. So you have to hit
your mark because if you're like, if you're standing with
the wrench here when you should be here, the whole
thing has to go do.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It doesn't matter how good your performance is. It's like, uh, Scott,
you missed your mom about four feet, so we're gonna
have to go again. Janet Hubert is Michelle's mom, Giselle,
So you were Michelle's mom. What do you remember about Yanik?
Speaker 25 (31:45):
I remember that it was very lovely, very lovely young man,
very handsome. I said, oh, I have such a hands
on nun, and so I had to do this sim
you know. So it was, it was, it was. It
was something that we learned to do, truly odd and
so I was. I have a knack for accents. I
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remember the set being very well run, very professional, but
I don't remember much about it, to take the truth.
I remember the discussions that we had. I remember the wig,
I remember the hair, I remember the look. I was
trying to find it on Hulu, but I was going,
where is it when you do one episode? And I
(32:33):
saw where somebody wrote Janet Hubrett was a queen of
one episode. I was hoping that they would bring her back.
You know. I know that she didn't know enough about
her son as much as she thought she did, or
she wasn't as attentive of a mother as she should be,
which my son accuses me of all the time.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
So I'm like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Scott Cohens, Max Medina, Scott, what Scott, Scott, what's with touching? Well,
so there was a lot of touching.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
What what.
Speaker 26 (33:09):
This is twenty years ago, man, a different time for me.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's been forever. I never saw it. It even wasn't
even aware. But you you, my friend, you know, we
got to talk about the touching because the touching, I
mean you were like you were rubbing her elbow with
your thumb.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
This is this is with Loralai.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 26 (33:35):
This is this Maxi Medina's charmed I mean, you know,
he was in love with Lourai. He was, you know,
any any way he can get close to her, he
would get close to her.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Man, boy, did you ever I mean talk about a
full court bress nice man, you were going and you
were going to the hoop strong.
Speaker 17 (33:56):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I don't don't think you'd be allowed to do that
these days.
Speaker 26 (34:01):
I mean I think you you would need permission to,
you know, to kind of create that. But I think that,
I mean, I do think that that. I don't think
it was manipulation. I think that it was you know,
you know Max's honest feelings about Laurel I, and you
know he really fell deeply in love with her and
(34:23):
just really wanted to be close with her in any way.
That again, and if she accepted it, then you know
it was all good. It was not you know, there
was not an issue.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And she defended very well. I mean she she denied
you denied, you denied you. This is not a good idea,
my daughters. You know, she she you know, she she
walked the high road, if you will. But man, you
just the rubbing thumb on. You just kept you, just
kept kept going.
Speaker 26 (34:52):
I said, there is there is no high road.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
There's what's what's am I talking about Vanessa Morano as
April and Nardini? So you kind of did realize the
impact of your character would have on the show at
the time before you when you were auditioning.
Speaker 14 (35:09):
Yeah, I knew. I don't think I knew how how
hated she was going to be right right. I knew
it was going to be an upsetting storyline. But like,
I don't know, Jess broke up Dean and Rory and
no one seemed to hate him.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So tell us about the blowback you got from fans
when you were out in public. I mean, tell us
about the most severe cases, good or bad.
Speaker 14 (35:38):
I mean, it wasn't good, it wasn't great. You know,
when I was out in public, I don't know that
anyone said anything too horrible, Like I think when you
do see a person in person and they're a child,
you have a little bit more of a filter. But
people would say like very veiled things like oh, well,
(35:58):
you're more okay than I thought you would be, that
sort of thing. But the online backlash, oh yeah, crazy.
And you know, thankfully this was before Instagram and Twitter
and all that stuff, but there were still like blogs
and like television without pity and and really actually like
publications too that were reviewing TV shows that were just
(36:23):
horrible and like hating me, hating my performance, hating my voice,
hating the way I looked.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
It was just.
Speaker 14 (36:29):
Awful, awful, awful, awful. However, I'm very grateful for it
because it made me at that time, especially because it
was my favorite show. So I was like, oh, well,
the creators of this show, Amy and Dan, who I
like value and like look up to think I'm good
and keep using me. But the rest of the world doesn't,
(36:52):
So like what opinion matters more in this moment and
really kind of put into perspective like you can't please everybody,
and like, are you just proud of the work that
you're doing? Years and years later when I ended up
on a show called Switched at Birth, which was a
show that I was a lead of, and I was
like one of the youngest people on that show. And
that was right when Twitter and Instagram were starting to happen.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I ended up being the.
Speaker 14 (37:16):
Person who was like, hey, guys, don't look at the comments.
It will drive you crazy, like all of a sudden,
an eighteen year old telling people who are like in
their late twenties being like, no, trust me on this one.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
From personal experience.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
About yeah, so as it softened over the years or
oh no.
Speaker 14 (37:34):
You know about two years ago, I opened up my
phone and you know there's news articles, things that are
going on in the world. Two years ago there was
a pandemic. There was a BuzzFeed article that came up
that said most hated television characters ever.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Oh no, my face, Oh my face.
Speaker 14 (37:53):
Scott I beat Joffrey from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Ted Rooney as Morey Dell. So listen, Mary Dell husband,
Okay to Sally Struthers, Bebbett or Babbitt, whatever you want
to call her. Did you love working with Sally?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
What was it like?
Speaker 8 (38:12):
Oh, first day, little hint, I know who Sally Struthers is.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Very well.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
We're sitting on the set together next to each other.
It's first time. I'm just I haven't even officially met her.
We're just sitting right next to each other. And she goes,
huh so hot, and I said, yeah, not like the
Portland days, huh. And she did one little double take
and looked at me and said, are you Ed Rooney's son?
And she totally got it right away.
Speaker 12 (38:43):
My dad was.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
One of her favorite teachers in high school here in Portland,
Grant High School.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
Yeah, and we always had it all in the family
picture up in his office that was signed by Sally Struthers.
So we were very well acquainted with who Sally Struthers was.
He was Grant's rock star. And so to sit next
to her, I just couldn't I was like a kidne
the candy store. I couldn't wait to, you know, let
her know. And her reaction was priceless. She just one breath.
(39:12):
You're in Rudy's said, aren't you. Yeah, So of course we're,
you know, fast friends after that. Yeah, And she comes
up to Portland once in a while, and so she
we've had her over for tea and she's she's my
son Abes fairy godmother. Yeah, she agreed to do that
for us. Yeah, great, she's great.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Scout Taylor Compton as Dean's little sister, Clara. What was
it like working with Jared? Did you guys click right away?
Speaker 12 (39:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (39:44):
We did.
Speaker 13 (39:45):
Jared So, Jared's such a.
Speaker 11 (39:46):
Special human, he really is.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
He made me feel like I was actually like his sister,
you know. He made me feel like very welcomed. And
he knows how to you know, he knew how to
work with younger people. I almost worked on Supernatural with him,
which would have been really cool reunion, but that didn't happen.
But yeah, it's he was such a good guy to
(40:09):
work with, really good. As much as I'd like to
say I was team I was probably Team Jess because
I had a big crush of Milea at the time.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Oh you were the one, oh, I said, because I
couldn't figure out who it was because nobody really likes him. Yeah,
that was me, That was you. Okay, now we go.
What were you?
Speaker 14 (40:32):
What team were you?
Speaker 7 (40:33):
I'm sure you've said it so many times.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, I was always Jess and then I said team
when when when Jared came out with this campaign. Uh,
because he suffers from a little depression and he was
helping other people that suffered from depression when he came
out with that, you know that that very thoughtful and
very effective campaign to help other people. That then I
sort of became in twenty fifteen, I at at X
(40:57):
I I said I was team Jess. I mean team Dan. Sorry, okay,
because I just I just wanted him to feel a
little better that, you know, he had my support, not
that it really mattered to him.
Speaker 16 (41:07):
Yeah, ok so an f y.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
I I was always team Luke, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I was always and I was always team Clara too.
I was always like, you know, that's you can have.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Adam Wiley as Brad Langford. What was it like working
with Liza?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Oh gosh, she's I think as as you as you
were aware of the audience may may or may not be.
She's like the nicest person in the world, which made
it so much more fun because I felt so safe
in the environment. She was so wonderful. I remember accidentally,
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one time, I think it was the season three wrap party,
I accidentally smacked her across the face. It was an accident, like, okay,
so here's here's the story. There were abetat just being
passed around and I grabbed one and I went to
turn and she happened to turn around at the same time,
and I accidentally like.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Ran into her with my end and I was like, oh,
I'm so sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
And she's and I think she said, no, it's okay.
I think I deserve it, and then she smacked me
back in such a funny really and it was so
it was such like a great moment that I only
think her and I shared and no one else saw.
That was just perfect.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That is That's a wonderful story. Thanks for joining us
to celebrate the twenty fifth anniversary of Gilmour Girls, and remember,
no matter how much time goes by, we're always all in.
(43:11):
Hey everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at
I Am All In podcast and email us at Gilmore
at iHeartRadio dot com.
I Am all in again.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh let us you.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hi Am all in Again with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The date is October fifth, two thousand. The WB is
turned on and you hear of the song. There she
goes with a beautiful brunette walking down a quaint little
town street of stars hollow, popping into a diner and
begging for more coffee from a guy in a backwards
hat and flannel shirt. This was the beginning of Gilmour Girls,
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the show that twenty five years ago led into our
hearts with its fast talking mother daughter duo relationships and friendships,
and a small, quirky town that felt like home. What
do you want to celebrate with you by taking a
look back at some of our most memorable guests of
the podcast. Let's dive into the behind the scenes stories
(01:09):
of how it all came together. Was some of your
favorite stars my Low vent Emilia as Jess Mariano. How
did we meet? Well? Do you remember the first time
we met?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Oh? Man, I don't remember the first moment, I think
I very much, just remember that first day of filming.
What I remember is just diving right in like like,
no pleasantries, no bullsht, to be like this is Scott,
this is mine, Like this is we're gonna find this
is gonna work, you know, and too what was always
funny to me was, dude, you and I were always
(01:44):
like really cool and engaged and had a lot to
talk about. But of course we're playing these characters that
you know, Jess was. He was a punk kid who
didn't want to hear it from anybody. And you know,
Luke was losing his mind with this kid that he
got saddled with from his sister. And and you know,
could who you and I were could not have been
(02:07):
more opposite than who Jess and Luke were. But also
where Jess and Luke kind of got to, I think
ultimately was closer to who you and I were in
terms of like like relationship and whatnot, you know, because
I think I think, you know, Jess grew up, just
learned some lessons, and Luke had been through some stuff
and that's all fascinating.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Would you do it again if they wanted to do
some more episodes You're in life part sure?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I mean, the thing the thing is this is like
I can't ever get away from it. You know, It's
it's for me knowing that like you and Lauren and
Alexis and probably just about everybody else in the show
would show up, and on top of it, it'd probably
be Dan and Amy there writing their asses off. It's like, yeah,
(02:57):
why wouldn't I if it would feel like it's there
for the right reason versus the wrong reason, like and
we all know those wrong reasons where shows think that
the show is bigger than the characters, so they'll try
and bring it back just to get more money. And
it's like, yeah, but are you are there really more
stories to tell? That's that's where I always kind of
(03:19):
go back to the nostalgia of the past, of stories
that we were a part of. Is are there still
more stories to tell? Have these characters grown to a
point where we actually really want to see more of them,
We want to understand where they've been, We're going to
discover something new. So I think if they did want
to bring it back, and if it was it was
(03:40):
Amy and dam at the Helm and you guys are
all showing up, I'd be a jerk to not show up.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Chad Michael Murray is Tristan? Do you think Tristan had
true feelings for Rory.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Understate?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Not even questions, not even questions.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
What would you have liked to see them explore more
on the relationship or would you have liked to explore
that relationship with her more? Because I think that's one
of the things that I mean, it left me wanting
so much more. When you exited that series, you were
no longer there, So that relationship, to me, had the
most It was so fraught with potential.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, and well they built it. They built it, and
you know, I will take responsibility.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's on me that you know.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I don't think the true depth of that relationship ever
came to fruition. It's on me.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
There was an episode in season two where Tristan goes
off to military school in North Carolina, i e. Being
Dawson's Creek, i e. Being One Tree Hill where we
shot in North Carolina. That was military school, my friend.
As an actor, you know this, trying on different clothes,
different costumes, different walks, different talks, different fields, getting up
(04:55):
in the morning and having a fresh shirt. It's different, right,
And sitting in the same character for too long can
get stagnant, and we always forget how blessed we are
when we're in those moments, right, because creatively, you can
get stifled. Not that the character was stifling. They did
a great job. But I was so young that I
(05:16):
needed to find out who Chad is, Who is Chad
is an actor? Where can I go? What can I do?
And you know, it led to me discovering so much
about myself that I genuinely wouldn't be the man I
was today. Without making that decision, you know, I could
have stayed there and spent six seasons on.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh so they offered you a full deal.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
But yeah, we had the discussion, and for me it
was I had at the time, I had a deal
with Warner Brooks. When the opportunity came through to stay
on Gilmore and really see, I just wanted to know
more about me, and I said, you know, I'd love
the opportunity to continue to look and find out what
that thing is that is And One Tree Hill came
(06:02):
around and there was the choice between Lucas and Nathan,
and I remember that decision I had to make, and
Nathan had a lot of trysting qualities in him on
the One Tree Hill. On One Tree Hill, Lucas was
the moral compass and I hadn't played that. Yet at
that point in my career, I was always playing the
bad way, whether it was Dawson's Creek Kilmore Girls, whatever
(06:22):
it was. And so I chose the moral compass and
I wanted to go a different round discover more about myself.
And that's that's that's the truth, Scott. I laid it
out for you, and you're like sitting in the barber's chair.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I just unveiled my seating Keiko againa as Lane Kim.
So what did you like most about Lane and what
did you like least about Lane?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I liked that she.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Had to.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Care about two things. One she cared deeply about her
mother and the other one she would care deeply about
her own obsessions and her own independence. And I like
characters that have that want two things that don't easily
fit together. That's just fun to play off of, to
play those two wants off of each other.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
The thing that I like.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Least about her is that you know, you have all
of this build up in that character, and I don't
think that she ever got to fly. You put so
much pressure on this character, which is fun and what
you need in comedy. But I wish that she had
had more moments of.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Fulfillment.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think I think there's a lot there's there's a
lot of frustration I have with that character as a
fan too, or and as someone who got to play her,
I would say that's the thing I like least about her,
that there.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Was more potential to flesh out that character and and
and you know, with augmented storylines and and and conclusions.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah more uh uh. I think she just had a
hard life, which is fun for comedy. But I I
don't know, And maybe this wouldn't make a better show,
but I think selfishly I wish that she had had
maybe more fulfillment. It's at least with the music side
and the independent side of her, because we get to,
(08:20):
you know, touch base with her ten years later in
the in.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The what about a spin off show you and.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
Let's do that?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
There's so much more story to hell people, let's uh,
let's uh, let's spin her off, right.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And it's like, who's going to write it?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Right?
Speaker 10 (08:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Sebastian Bach as Gill going from being on stage in
front of millions to acting in front of a crew,
What was that transition like for you?
Speaker 11 (08:53):
Well, I think about filming The Gilmore Girls and I
think about like each episode was one hour long, and
there's not a lot of the TV shows like that
anymore that I can think of. And what I enjoyed
about it was.
Speaker 12 (09:10):
We all got along like as a cast and a crew.
We all I mean I wasn't there as long as you,
but in my experience, everybody was like having fun together
and we all were like on a mission to make
something cool that everybody was on a team, and I
(09:32):
missed that. I loved the feeling of, like you know,
it was a big cast, it was a big crew,
but we.
Speaker 11 (09:39):
Were all on the same page as far as making
something that we were all proud of and getting paid
every Thursday.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Was the original plan to have you on for more
than one episode or did that grow as times that grew? Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 11 (09:55):
I became friends with Amy and Dan. We would go
to the Rainbow couple of times, and me and Dan
bonded over old Judas Priest and Rush and he's a
real rocker, Dan, he and as arguing with your band my.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Band indeed indeed ariel Kebble as Lindsay, did you remember
reading the script and seeing that you were getting cheated
on with Rory? Do you remember how it felt.
Speaker 13 (10:24):
Yeah, you want to know how messed up this is.
I remember reading the script. I actually thought the cheating
made more sense than us getting married. I remember reading
the script where we got married.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
And I was like, what.
Speaker 13 (10:39):
That was harder for me to wrap my head around.
I don't know if that just means I'm really messed up,
but I because we were just so young and we
were so fresh in this relationship. I was really trying
to wrap my head around, Okay, we just took this
jump to marriage. So I guess by the time the
cheating came, I was like, yeah, of course, you know,
(11:02):
like what else was going to happen?
Speaker 14 (11:04):
Right?
Speaker 10 (11:05):
So, yeah, I don't know what that says about me.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
But why do you think Lindsey didn't directly confront Rory
after she found the note?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
That's a great question.
Speaker 13 (11:19):
I think.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Deep down she always knew.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
You know.
Speaker 13 (11:26):
It's like I remember that episode where she's like baking
him cupcakes with gummy bears on top. You know, it's
like she's doing all these things to just these acts
of service, to just show her.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
Love and this commitment to.
Speaker 13 (11:40):
Him, And you can feel, even if someone's not saying it,
you can feel when someone's not all in right, and
so I think I think she felt like dang, I
wish I was wrong, but.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I was right.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Grantly Phillips as the town Troubadour? Did it all begin
with Gilmore Girls and you being cast as a town troubadour?
Speaker 15 (12:06):
Oh goodness, well this would have been about.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Two thousand, right, five years ago? Yeah, yes, yes, okay, right.
Speaker 15 (12:15):
You know I had been with Grantly Buffalo vocalist, you know,
in the band Grantly Buffalo and all that, and and
around this time I was kind of starting to go
out on my own, working on my first solo album,
and that was about the time that I got this
this invitation. Do I want to come on this show,
this new show and portray the town Troubadour? And so
(12:39):
it was it was great timing because you know, all
of a sudden, I wasn't on the road all the
time I was recording. I was kind of just wide
open to whatever the future wanted to throw at me.
And there it was. Gilmore Girls. Had no idea that,
you know, beyond one appearance, that it would you know,
involve you know, so many seasons and there's this incredible lifetime.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
How many how many episodes did you end up doing.
Speaker 15 (13:03):
Do you remember there might have been like I'm going
to say maybe twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's pretty good. Did you notice a hike and album
sales or record sales? Uh? More people showing up at
your on tour when you were touring well as a
result of the show.
Speaker 15 (13:20):
Well, you know what, I Uh, it's interesting some and
this it still occurs. The ripples continue to this day.
You know when I when I go out and play,
I typically meet people to come to the show.
Speaker 16 (13:32):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (13:33):
Some people that know Grantly Buffalo, some people that have
followed my solo stuff, and then a whole other group
of people that it's because of this program, right that
they come to the show.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I can't walk down the street in Amsterdam, ken you anymore?
I can't. You can't you know, it's like crazy. You
have to jump into the canal just I do. Swim away?
Don't you make you? Amic As Sherry, you played Christopher's
girl friend, eventually became his wife and mother to Gigi.
Tell us about how the audition process and all that.
Speaker 17 (13:59):
How you get the.
Speaker 18 (13:59):
Wrong Actually I tested a whole bunch of times and
got really really close to getting.
Speaker 19 (14:09):
Loralai and and just at the end of the day,
like the Studio Network, they're like, oh, it just doesn't
feel right for whatever reason.
Speaker 18 (14:19):
Right, It's like who knows why.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
People, But I was just I was like, I was
so excited.
Speaker 18 (14:23):
I was like, oh, I love this script and I
love Amy. So I was heartbroken, not gonna lie, But
then I was really excited that Amy just invited me.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Back to play.
Speaker 19 (14:36):
You know, this kind of kooky character that came in
and I guess tortured everybody.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
She was.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
She was interesting.
Speaker 18 (14:46):
What I liked about her is that she was innocent
in it all.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
She was very.
Speaker 19 (14:52):
Hi, I'm you know, so good to meet you, having
no idea that that the entire.
Speaker 18 (15:00):
Town and social.
Speaker 19 (15:02):
Group, you know, looked at that character as a getting
in the way. You know, how dare.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
She Jackson Douglas as Jackson Belleville. How would you describe
Jackson in your own words or Arnold Swayt Schwarzenegger's words
or yeah.
Speaker 20 (15:27):
I don't know, you know, it was it was an
interesting It was really an interesting role because I think
it was just kind of a I mean, the best
way that I can describe it, at least the way
I feel about it, is just a hyperboleized version of me.
You know, it's funny how you would live life, and
they would all of a sudden end up in a script.
(15:47):
I got named the president of the Homos Association, and
a month later later we were doing I was being
elected the town selectman, you know, because I don't know,
Amy just seemed to think that my life was hilarious
and just needed to use that for something. It was
so easy, I mean, the character was just so much fun,
(16:11):
and I got along with everybody so well that it
just it really did become effortless. The hardest thing was
just to use somebody else's words, you know, try to
It's like, oh, I wouldn't speak that way, but I've
got to try and force my mouth to, you know,
say it a certain way.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Or and plus you get to, you know, work with
Melissa McCarthy Forgod's Well, yeah, was out.
Speaker 10 (16:37):
It didn't.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
It didn't feel like.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Right exactly because we've said on the show, on the podcast,
you know we could I could see because I haven't
seen the episodes, right, so I'm watching for the first time.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
It's a whole thesis of the podcast, and you.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Know, the talent on her from the very first moment
you see her is so glaring and apparent, and.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
Just like, wow, did you see it too?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You must have seen it, right.
Speaker 20 (17:05):
I guess I felt it, you know, And I guess
I'm really really fortunate that I felt such a wonderful
personal connection with her that I think if I were
to oh my god, I mean now that you mention it,
I kind of just got shivers. How if I looked
at it the way that you described it, I think
(17:26):
I would have been really intimidated, and I don't think
I would have been able to come even close.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Jared Pedlicky as Dean Forrester, was Gilmour your first acting
gig that you got hired for?
Speaker 17 (17:40):
Not technically so when I was a senior in high school. Well, okay,
I'll go back a little bit further. Between my junior
and senior year of high school. I want a nationwide
contest to be a trophy presenter at the first annual
Teen Choice Awards.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And that meant stood there on stage, I.
Speaker 17 (17:56):
Held onto a surfboard, and when Freddy Prince Junior would
win Best Kiss for sheet all that, I'd give it
to him and I'd you know, usher them off stage.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And at the after party, I met a manager.
Speaker 17 (18:06):
Who I'm still with to this day, Dan Spielo, who's
also a producing partner, and he's like, hey, you know,
do you act or what's I was like, yeah, you know,
I'm acted in school, done speech and debate and plays
and this, and then I love acting, and so well,
here's my card, you know, let's keep in touch. And
so I went back to San Antonio to do my
senior high school. I flew out during spring break of
(18:28):
my senior year, so February during pilot season, thank god,
and I got a pilot called Silent Witness, which was
for NBC and it didn't get picked up, and so
you know, my parents were like, well, okay, you know,
you did it. You gave it a shot. And then
the check came in for the pilot and they were like,
following your dream, son.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I used money.
Speaker 17 (18:53):
I used that money to road trip out. I put
some aside for student loans and whatnot, and I drove
out to California with my papall my mom's dad, stayed
with my manager at his house and did some auditions
and I think that first week or two weeks or whatever,
and these are back. You remember two thousand like if
(19:14):
you were if you were a teenage white dude, there
was a role for you in every single project that
was being made. And so I got tons of auditions
that they're like, hey, this new kid in town.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
He has acted all throughout school.
Speaker 17 (19:27):
And so I booked a guest spot on Er, I
booked in a movie called A Little Inside, and I
booked a four episode guest star stint on Gilmore Girls,
this show that hadn't aired yet. And funny enough, when
I booked the re recast of Dean Forrester, you know,
the show hadn't been picked up yet. I was just
(19:49):
a co star, I think at the time. And I'd
also been offered this independent movie I Forget then that
Boys on the Run I think it was called, which
was like ten times the money, and I got offered
another that was like six times the money. And then
I got off with Gilmore Girls, which hadn't even aired yet,
and I was, you know, this this kid who grew
up in a seven here s Griffet house in San Antonio,
(20:10):
going like money, money, money. My my agent and manager
were like no, no, no, no, you know we think that
the show, which I hadn't read yet, I hadn't seen obviously,
it hadn't aired.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
They're like, we think the show has has legs. It's
a great show.
Speaker 17 (20:26):
It's super intelligent, it's funny, it's charming, it's heartwarming.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
We think you should do that.
Speaker 17 (20:32):
And so thank god they convinced me, I was still
seventeen at the time, to shoot four episodes on the
whole show called Gilmore Girls that hadn't aired yet.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
You know, a couple of independent movies.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Paul Anka as himself, a bunch of first hear about
Lorelized Dog being named after you.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
I think it was right from the inception, you know,
artbeat later, I want to get out there, obviously, and
you know, I became a huge fan of the show.
Obviously it was a great show, well written, et cetera,
et cetera. But from the inception, you know, probably what
after the first couple of weeks, everybody came around and
I heard about it, and I thought it was cool
(21:16):
because it's so international. I've been an international creature, but
I was ultimately hearing from everybody all over the world.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And so you were aware of the show before you
found out about it.
Speaker 9 (21:30):
Friends were watching it. I think my kids were watching it. Right,
you know the show. I mean, we're not talking about
something obscure. This show was like everybody loved it, So
I was very much aware of the show. Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And and then you made a cameo in the cold
open of season six, episode eighteen. Tell us how that
came about that black and White.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Well, I got the call and I said, yeah, let's
do it. I think we did a couple. When I
first got the call, I was very happy to do it,
you know, I thought, yeah, natural for me. And they
were great to work with. They were just a fun
group of people and great bright knew what they were doing,
and that was very comforting to me.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Right, do do fans approach you about your appearances on
cal Morn Girls.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
I'm still do fans. I got friends, I got people
who did at parties. He always comes up and you know,
I hate the phrase, it is what it is, but
it is what it is and it was great to
be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Kathleen Wilhoyt as Luke's sister lives.
Speaker 21 (22:34):
Working with Michael was great fun when we did the
wedding scene and his brother came on the show. Then
I got to see the Delawise kind of family dynamic,
which is just full of love and light and silliness
and laughter. I mean that is quite a family and anyway,
so I really enjoyed that. But I remember the highlights
(22:58):
for me were King was on the set once and
Sebastian Bach and Carol King were on a golf cart driving.
I don't know where they were going, and I was
about one hundred yards away and Sebastian Bach says.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Kathleen and I turn around.
Speaker 21 (23:19):
I might have been with a friend or something. And
I turned around and I was like, he goes, come
in here.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I said, hold on a second.
Speaker 21 (23:27):
Oh, he says, Carol wants to meet you or something.
So I'm just like swirly eyes. You know, I've been
a huge Carol King fan my whole life. I run
to the golf cart and then he looks at me
and he sort of blinks and he was like and
then who like looks And then I said, Hi, I'm Kathleen.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He goes, no, not you.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
The pa.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
I was like.
Speaker 21 (23:54):
And then the pa who I was with or something,
she was like, oh, Carol, that's Kathleen. Sebastian, this is
Kathleen too. She's in the.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Cast or whatever.
Speaker 21 (24:03):
It was, but getting to meet Carol King was huge highlight.
I've been a huge fan of my whole life.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So did so you met she was on the Uh? Well,
it was that during the series of the reboot because
I met her on the reboot. I never met her
on the series.
Speaker 21 (24:19):
Oh, she was at the she was on the lot.
I don't know if she was on, but I didn't
get to be on the reboot. And my agent called
me and she said, you need to call Amy and
say you should be on the reboot. And I'm like,
I'm not going to call her, and like, if she's
not putting me on, then she doesn't want me on. Gross,
I'm not that guy.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
That's what it needed. It needed, it needed Lizen TJ.
It needed. It really did well.
Speaker 21 (24:44):
It turns out I'm available.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I think Truesdale is Michelle. Do you consider Michelle to
be rude or just honest?
Speaker 10 (24:56):
I think honest, honest, but in a context of different culture,
you know, because Michelle, Michelle in Paris is not rude.
They're they're all on, they're all like him. They put
him in the context of an America.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
Rude because people don't speak their mind right right right.
When they do, it's because they're being rude. He's just
and the French love to have an argument, right, you
would think they're fighting, but it's just they love the
conversation and the benter.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
And arguing about the objective, just.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
Taking on purpose the opposite side of absolutely like dissect.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I mean, you just can't sit there and eat the dinner,
you know, you gotta.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
Yeah, so yeah, I don't think he is rude.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, okay, all right, So here's a little bit of
a personal question. Do you think people think that you
are prickly in real life?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yes? They do. They do.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
Yeah, they do because well they think because when you
do something well in this business, as you know, people
think you are that person. Right, So they're always first
of all shocked that when I open my mouth when
they've never seen me in anything else that I don't
speak like Michelle.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I was like, well, no, this is a character I'm not.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
But and then they're like, oh, you're so nice, You're
so sick.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I was afraid to say hi to you, right right, right,
right right right.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
So there's a little bit of that perception that you
are that character. But quickly they realize how charm me, I.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Am Sally Strugglers as Bebett. If you could jump back
in time to filming any episode or season, what would
it be?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Oh Gilmore?
Speaker 16 (26:57):
Any episode or season of the Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Oh Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
Oh M.
Speaker 16 (27:05):
When did I have the most fun? Probably when we
did what was it called A Year in the Life?
Speaker 5 (27:10):
What was it a?
Speaker 12 (27:11):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (27:12):
We came back.
Speaker 16 (27:13):
We all hadn't seen each other in several years, and
then we did those four ninety minute movies, and I
felt so lucky. I felt like I hadn't been invited
to my high school reunion. And the reunion went on
for you know, a month. I was like a kid
at Christmas, dancing around the Warner Brothers lot, and Rose
Abdu said to me one day, Oh, here comes one
(27:34):
of their their trolley's what do you call those caravan
things where they drive people around to take a tour
in the studio bus the tram right right? And she says,
let's just stand here and give them a thrill. We
were on our way to the steppe uppy truck where
you could get snacks, right, and we were admonishing one
(27:54):
another about how we didn't need snacks, but we were
getting them anyway, and then we stopped and kind of
poe so to give the group on the Trama thrill.
They didn't recognize either one of us.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
We both felt so awful.
Speaker 16 (28:08):
We got more snacks than we even originally wanted.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Sean Gunn as Kirk, how do you even explain the
character of Kirk?
Speaker 22 (28:20):
Well, I'm I'm fortunate that I I read this great
piece in The Atlantic. I should be I should shout
out to the writer's name, but I don't remember her
name the top of my head. But it explained it
way better than I ever could. Where they were. She
talked about Kirk as a man child, And you know,
(28:44):
I always looked at him as being a guy who
who who like obeyed the rules at all costs, but
would would also would also duck them when necessary.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Like I don't I don't know how I thought.
Speaker 22 (29:04):
Of it, but but when you think of Kurt as
like a nine year old and a grown man's body,
it all adds up, right, you know. It's like when
you think of him as it's like, oh, this is
like a little kid.
Speaker 23 (29:16):
Who both he's like he'll he'll lie if he needs to,
but not in a bad way, only because maybe he
thinks he's not going to get caught.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
And uh.
Speaker 22 (29:31):
And yeah, I think Kirk is you know, a grown
man who lives alone in his mother's basement.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Like what, he.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Very very entrepreneurial.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, it words everything like.
Speaker 22 (29:47):
Him all the time, you know, like what, whatever you
expect of me, like, I will do it, and also
I have to do it or I'll get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Rose Abdu is Gypsy. You got to do some pretty
pretty intense scenes with Milo. Tell us what it was
like working with him.
Speaker 24 (30:13):
I just remember he bugged Gypsy so much like Gypsy
has no love for Jess as you well know. So
of course, because I'm such a method actor, I have
no love for myla. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I actually
I remember saying to him, you really have like a
young James Dean quality. And he was like, God, everybody
says that to me.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
What a horrible somebody.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
How could you do that?
Speaker 12 (30:33):
I yelled at him.
Speaker 24 (30:34):
I yelled at him and said, you should be thankful,
you should be thankful that people compare you to James d.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
He was terrific.
Speaker 24 (30:40):
I mean, he was so I felt like he was
so in character all the time. You know, he really
was fantastic. And I love the one where you you
come to ask My favorite episode is you come to
ask me about the car, and that's where that guys
are stupid lying and I go, no, but he had
a bag with a dollar sign on it or something
like that, right, and that scene, I had to a
nineteen marks to come out on the underneath the car
(31:04):
and take the wrench and go over to the thing.
And you were so nice to me. But we really
got it done fast. But that was one of those ones,
like you said, with him, that could have gone horribly
wrong where we really like.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
This cast is so gifted and really it's like colored tape.
Speaker 24 (31:17):
On Oh my god, you guys, there's so much tape
on the floor. You have no like and everybody, every
character is a different color. So you have to hit
your mark because if you're like, if you're standing with
the wrench here when you should be here, the whole
thing has to go do.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It doesn't matter how good your performance is. It's like, uh, Scott,
you missed your mom about four feet, so we're gonna
have to go again. Janet Hubert is Michelle's mom, Giselle,
So you were Michelle's mom. What do you remember about Yanik?
Speaker 25 (31:45):
I remember that it was very lovely, very lovely young man,
very handsome. I said, oh, I have such a hands
on nun, and so I had to do this sim
you know. So it was, it was, it was. It
was something that we learned to do, truly odd and
so I was. I have a knack for accents. I
(32:08):
remember the set being very well run, very professional, but
I don't remember much about it, to take the truth.
I remember the discussions that we had. I remember the wig,
I remember the hair, I remember the look. I was
trying to find it on Hulu, but I was going,
where is it when you do one episode? And I
(32:33):
saw where somebody wrote Janet Hubrett was a queen of
one episode. I was hoping that they would bring her back.
You know. I know that she didn't know enough about
her son as much as she thought she did, or
she wasn't as attentive of a mother as she should be,
which my son accuses me of all the time.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
So I'm like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Scott Cohens, Max Medina, Scott, what Scott, Scott, what's with touching? Well,
so there was a lot of touching.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
What what.
Speaker 26 (33:09):
This is twenty years ago, man, a different time for me.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's been forever. I never saw it. It even wasn't
even aware. But you you, my friend, you know, we
got to talk about the touching because the touching, I
mean you were like you were rubbing her elbow with
your thumb.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
This is this is with Loralai.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 26 (33:35):
This is this Maxi Medina's charmed I mean, you know,
he was in love with Lourai. He was, you know,
any any way he can get close to her, he
would get close to her.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Man, boy, did you ever I mean talk about a
full court bress nice man, you were going and you
were going to the hoop strong.
Speaker 17 (33:56):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I don't don't think you'd be allowed to do that
these days.
Speaker 26 (34:01):
I mean I think you you would need permission to,
you know, to kind of create that. But I think that,
I mean, I do think that that. I don't think
it was manipulation. I think that it was you know,
you know Max's honest feelings about Laurel I, and you
know he really fell deeply in love with her and
(34:23):
just really wanted to be close with her in any way.
That again, and if she accepted it, then you know
it was all good. It was not you know, there
was not an issue.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And she defended very well. I mean she she denied
you denied, you denied you. This is not a good idea,
my daughters. You know, she she you know, she she
walked the high road, if you will. But man, you
just the rubbing thumb on. You just kept you, just
kept kept going.
Speaker 26 (34:52):
I said, there is there is no high road.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
There's what's what's am I talking about Vanessa Morano as
April and Nardini? So you kind of did realize the
impact of your character would have on the show at
the time before you when you were auditioning.
Speaker 14 (35:09):
Yeah, I knew. I don't think I knew how how
hated she was going to be right right. I knew
it was going to be an upsetting storyline. But like,
I don't know, Jess broke up Dean and Rory and
no one seemed to hate him.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So tell us about the blowback you got from fans
when you were out in public. I mean, tell us
about the most severe cases, good or bad.
Speaker 14 (35:38):
I mean, it wasn't good, it wasn't great. You know,
when I was out in public, I don't know that
anyone said anything too horrible, Like I think when you
do see a person in person and they're a child,
you have a little bit more of a filter. But
people would say like very veiled things like oh, well,
(35:58):
you're more okay than I thought you would be, that
sort of thing. But the online backlash, oh yeah, crazy.
And you know, thankfully this was before Instagram and Twitter
and all that stuff, but there were still like blogs
and like television without pity and and really actually like
publications too that were reviewing TV shows that were just
(36:23):
horrible and like hating me, hating my performance, hating my voice,
hating the way I looked.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
It was just.
Speaker 14 (36:29):
Awful, awful, awful, awful. However, I'm very grateful for it
because it made me at that time, especially because it
was my favorite show. So I was like, oh, well,
the creators of this show, Amy and Dan, who I
like value and like look up to think I'm good
and keep using me. But the rest of the world doesn't,
(36:52):
So like what opinion matters more in this moment and
really kind of put into perspective like you can't please everybody,
and like, are you just proud of the work that
you're doing? Years and years later when I ended up
on a show called Switched at Birth, which was a
show that I was a lead of, and I was
like one of the youngest people on that show. And
that was right when Twitter and Instagram were starting to happen.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I ended up being the.
Speaker 14 (37:16):
Person who was like, hey, guys, don't look at the comments.
It will drive you crazy, like all of a sudden,
an eighteen year old telling people who are like in
their late twenties being like, no, trust me on this one.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
From personal experience.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
About yeah, so as it softened over the years or
oh no.
Speaker 14 (37:34):
You know about two years ago, I opened up my
phone and you know there's news articles, things that are
going on in the world. Two years ago there was
a pandemic. There was a BuzzFeed article that came up
that said most hated television characters ever.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Oh no, my face, Oh my face.
Speaker 14 (37:53):
Scott I beat Joffrey from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Ted Rooney as Morey Dell. So listen, Mary Dell husband,
Okay to Sally Struthers, Bebbett or Babbitt, whatever you want
to call her. Did you love working with Sally?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
What was it like?
Speaker 8 (38:12):
Oh, first day, little hint, I know who Sally Struthers is.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Very well.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
We're sitting on the set together next to each other.
It's first time. I'm just I haven't even officially met her.
We're just sitting right next to each other. And she goes,
huh so hot, and I said, yeah, not like the
Portland days, huh. And she did one little double take
and looked at me and said, are you Ed Rooney's son?
And she totally got it right away.
Speaker 12 (38:43):
My dad was.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
One of her favorite teachers in high school here in Portland,
Grant High School.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
Yeah, and we always had it all in the family
picture up in his office that was signed by Sally Struthers.
So we were very well acquainted with who Sally Struthers was.
He was Grant's rock star. And so to sit next
to her, I just couldn't I was like a kidne
the candy store. I couldn't wait to, you know, let
her know. And her reaction was priceless. She just one breath.
(39:12):
You're in Rudy's said, aren't you. Yeah, So of course we're,
you know, fast friends after that. Yeah, And she comes
up to Portland once in a while, and so she
we've had her over for tea and she's she's my
son Abes fairy godmother. Yeah, she agreed to do that
for us. Yeah, great, she's great.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Scout Taylor Compton as Dean's little sister, Clara. What was
it like working with Jared? Did you guys click right away?
Speaker 12 (39:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (39:44):
We did.
Speaker 13 (39:45):
Jared So, Jared's such a.
Speaker 11 (39:46):
Special human, he really is.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
He made me feel like I was actually like his sister,
you know. He made me feel like very welcomed. And
he knows how to you know, he knew how to
work with younger people. I almost worked on Supernatural with him,
which would have been really cool reunion, but that didn't happen.
But yeah, it's he was such a good guy to
(40:09):
work with, really good. As much as I'd like to
say I was team I was probably Team Jess because
I had a big crush of Milea at the time.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Oh you were the one, oh, I said, because I
couldn't figure out who it was because nobody really likes him. Yeah,
that was me, That was you. Okay, now we go.
What were you?
Speaker 14 (40:32):
What team were you?
Speaker 7 (40:33):
I'm sure you've said it so many times.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, I was always Jess and then I said team
when when when Jared came out with this campaign. Uh,
because he suffers from a little depression and he was
helping other people that suffered from depression when he came
out with that, you know that that very thoughtful and
very effective campaign to help other people. That then I
sort of became in twenty fifteen, I at at X
(40:57):
I I said I was team Jess. I mean team Dan. Sorry, okay,
because I just I just wanted him to feel a
little better that, you know, he had my support, not
that it really mattered to him.
Speaker 16 (41:07):
Yeah, ok so an f y.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
I I was always team Luke, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I was always and I was always team Clara too.
I was always like, you know, that's you can have.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Adam Wiley as Brad Langford. What was it like working
with Liza?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Oh gosh, she's I think as as you as you
were aware of the audience may may or may not be.
She's like the nicest person in the world, which made
it so much more fun because I felt so safe
in the environment. She was so wonderful. I remember accidentally,
(41:48):
one time, I think it was the season three wrap party,
I accidentally smacked her across the face. It was an accident, like, okay,
so here's here's the story. There were abetat just being
passed around and I grabbed one and I went to
turn and she happened to turn around at the same time,
and I accidentally like.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Ran into her with my end and I was like, oh,
I'm so sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
And she's and I think she said, no, it's okay.
I think I deserve it, and then she smacked me
back in such a funny really and it was so
it was such like a great moment that I only
think her and I shared and no one else saw.
That was just perfect.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That is That's a wonderful story. Thanks for joining us
to celebrate the twenty fifth anniversary of Gilmour Girls, and remember,
no matter how much time goes by, we're always all in.
(43:11):
Hey everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at
I Am All In podcast and email us at Gilmore
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