November 24, 2025 • 25 mins
You remember him as Paris’ first boyfriend Jamie, Brandon Barash joins Scott to recap Season 3 E6 “Take the Deviled Eggs...”
Brandon reveals why he thinks Christopher and Lorelai didn’t work out, and Sherry seems to be the perfect match for him.
Plus, Brandon explains he loved seeing a different side of Luke in his relationship with Jess.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh, let's you. I Am all in again with Scott
Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast. Want
to eleve the productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast. We are at
season three, Episode six, Take the Deviled Eggs air date
November five, So yesterday was the what the twenty third
anniversary of this episode? November five, two thousand and two,
(00:45):
And by the time you're hearing this, it'll be even older.
Jess confesses to getting a new job to pay for
his car, but the town is upset because the incident
with Rory's car and that the accident, Rory and Lorie
ten cherries Baby Shore and find out way too much
information about Christopher and the town. Lonner stages a podcast
(01:08):
a protest, not a.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Podcast, but a podcastiled into the future.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
He tiled in the podcast a Protest, A protest Director
Daniel Babbitt, writer Daniel Palladino, and I am joined today
yet again by Brandon Brash. Hello Brandon, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What's happening? Scott? I'm great?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Good? Good? You're from Saint Louis. You're best known for
your daytime soap operas eight hundred episodes, Hospital, five hundred
episodes Days of Our Lives? Did you have something against
Days of Our Lives? You did three hundred less. We'll
get into that. You might recognize him as Jamie who
dates Paris Geller for the first three episodes of Gilmore Girls.
(01:55):
Now Brandon. We start off the Shenanigan's here with Gilmore
Girls town meeting, Taylor's holding a town meeting, and Miss
Patty's date with Jesus keeps interrupting it, which is kind
of funny. I discussed the town Loader and him holding
a protest in the square. He doesn't want him to
(02:17):
do it. Taylor does. The reverend and the Rabbi, which
was a very funny scene with Taylor allowing the town
Loader to protest in front of the church. I really
enjoyed that banter between the Rabbi, the priest, and Taylor, and.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It was great. The Rabbi's hot dog line was just
was pretty spot on. Yeah. Classic.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So this episode definitely shows the quirkiness of Stars Hollow, Brandon,
who's your favorite Stars Hallow resident in this episode?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
In this aside from Jesus, you mean aside aside from
hey zeus my favorite stars Hollow resident. Gosh, that's a
great question. It would have to be. I don't know.
I enjoyed. I enjoyed the bit at the end with
the deviled eggs in the car and Rory and Lorelai
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getting getting some revenge on Jess, poor Jess, by the way.
But uh, I would have to say, because I think
it was Rory's idea.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Maybe Rory Okay, after the town, meaning Okay, just gets
the Brandon just got a car, just got a cart
car after the town, just pulls up to Luke's in
a car. It's a beater, you know it's it's a
real beater. But but Luke wants to know where he
got money, where he bought it?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
What grown man though, did not dream of doing what
Jess did right, just saving up and buying a beater
of a car and having the wherewithal to fix it.
God knows, I don't, but I've always wanted to be
that guy. It's like, yeah, I need to, Uh, I
need to. I can't even think of a car park,
that's how terrible I am at fixing cars.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I Yeah, continues to be skeptical. Yeah, there was always
that guy in high school that pulled up in a
car that was like emitting so much smog that it
was like people would run away from it. And he
was very proud of that car.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He was. Yeah, jeez.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So Luke continues to be skeptical and asked Gypsy about
the car and how he paid. How Jess Payton even
goes through Jess things to find out more. Yeah, letting
Ury get into an argument with just about his new car.
Uh what do you think about that little that little
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argument with oh the.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
One that uh yeah, that they that they kind of
pick with Jesse.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I was so curious because obviously it's been over two
decades since I've watched an episode of The Gilmore Girls
and been on The Gilmore Girls, so a lot of
stuff has fallen by the wayside. But so Jess, Jess
and Rory were a couple before this, right, And did
Jess cheat on her? Did he must wronged her in
some way? To dress the response, it was the car
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accident with her car.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
The car the Dean built for Rory.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh see that hurts. See now I like the deviled
eggs scene even more. Yeah, was it warranted? So did
did just take responsibility for the accident or was he like,
not my circus, not my monkey.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't know. Yeah, I still can't get that image
out of my head. Does it really matter if he
took her responsibility?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, I'm just I'm trying to justify the anger, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Uh, well, you know it's like teenage girl anger.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's teenage girl anger, and it's TV.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So this guy, this guy is making out with this
blonde chick right in front of me, right in my face,
seemingly every day. Yeah, and then he destroys my car
and then has the nerve to park this thing, just
piece of junk, in front of front of Luke's Ever.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That's that's pretty brutal. Yeah, that's that's pretty brutal. I'm
not gonna lie, right. You know, I did a lot
of crappy things in my twenties, and I don't know
if I would have done that, So shame on you.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think I think I think that Jess definitely loses
the car game, yeah to Dean and Dean. Dean wins
the car gaming, he wins the boyfriend game. Jess seems
to be, you know, distracting Rory so much with his
looks and his coolness and his brain and now this
(06:35):
junkie Now, now he comes up with this junkie car. Really,
I don't know, he kind of he kind of really
gets kind of lambasted.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
In this episode, Jess knows Luke went through his stuff.
He finally tells him he's been working at Walmart. Luke
is impressed, and he just then he just rides him.
He just he just seizes them.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So I have a question for you about that, if
you don't mind, yes, please, And I mean I don't
remember what I have for breakfast on Saturday, so I
don't know if I expect you to remember this. But
my favorite scene of that whole episode was the reveal
of just working at Walmart and the banter between you two.
I thought it was brilliant. I thought it was fun,
it was natural, it was it was effortless. So my
(07:20):
question is, was any of that improvised? Oh no, how
you were? You were letter perfect on that?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh no, you don't improvise in this show.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, okay, see I did. I only did. I only
did three three episodes, so I don't know. But it
was so good. It was like I want I would
have watched an hour of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Oh when have you ever seen Luke having so much fun?
That guy didn't have a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, so that was it.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
He was either like very stelic and kind of like
you know, down, not down, but just shut off, cut off. Yeah, yeah,
and intense looking, or he was you know, ranting about something.
But he was rarely happy, right and this is this
is and that it shocked me too because it's like, hey,
you know, he looks really happy. Yeah, because he's having
(08:11):
a good time totally. And I think it was just
a great opportunity for Luke to I don't know, deep
in the relationship somehow. I think he was so thrilled
that Jess wasn't you know, hadn't committed a crime to
get the money, and he was actually like maybe his
influence was working and he was gaining some responsibility and
(08:35):
he got a second job and maybe this for just
so it was all relieved and happiness and you know,
now I've got you know, like my little sort of
you know, rent to son here. Yeah, but it was
it's nice to see him light and lighthearted.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And yeah, it was a great scene.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, thank you. On the way home, from Sherry's Ror
and Laurli obviously devil egg yesh car. Right, should Luke
trust Jess Moore at this point? Do you think I think?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah? I think I think after the whole you know,
I'm working two jobs and I save to get this car.
I didn't do anything illegal under the table, didn't win it,
you know, didn't win money gambling. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, And.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Just at the point that he appears to be turning
his life around a little bit, this is when he
is the least attractive to to Rory.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, you know, girls love the bad boy.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I mean, he's a lot of he's a conformist now
with a car.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, so he's boring all of a sudden to
Rory Brandon.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Do you remember your first car? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It was a Ford Probe. What a name for a car, right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Robe, Rob, Yeah, yeah, not a verb?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
What was your first car?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
My first car that I that I purchased, Oh, that
I purchased her?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That okay.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
My first car that I purchased was a Volkswagen Beetle.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
What color it was?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It was baby blue? Beautiful and I should have painted it,
but but I just I don't know. It was like
a perfect car. Yeah, perfect air, you know. Yeah, And
it's just you know, stick shift. I drove the hell
out of that thing, man, and it just never broke down,
(10:33):
and it just it was just you know, it's just
my little car.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Love it. Yeah, better than my Ford Probe let me
tell you. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I didn't really have a choice of the color because
I bought it used obviously, but man, it was it
was a it was a honey. That thing just was
like in perfect condition. Nice all right. Rory gets invited
to Sherry's baby shower. She admits that she's been in
contact with Christopher apologize Laurel I think she doesn't need
(11:10):
to go, and she felt like she was betraying laurrele
I to begin with. So Rory decides to go to Sherry's,
but as Laura's dropping her off, Sherry's these Laurel and
invites her in. She's being very persuasive and Laura I
reluctantly agrees.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
To participate in the festivities.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
They're in Christopher's apartment. Cherry basically remodeled the entire apartment
away from Chris style. Laurrela has been awkward playing games,
and they find out a lot about Sharon Christopher, he
has been unbelievably supportive, and then she thanks him for
convincing She thanks Laurai for convincing Christopher to be involved
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during Suki's wedding weekend, involved in their relationship. So Morrela
has a meltdown in the bathroom because she hates hearing
how great Chris is.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So was she still hung up on Christopher?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know, did you find this to be a little awkward?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Right, I think for the same reasons I found it
a bit awkward. It's like, this is a stretch, you know,
rehabilitating a guy who has, you know, consistently let down
these two. Yeah, and then here he's in a completely
different situation that we're not really involved in it all.
We haven't seen any of this. We're just hearing this
(12:29):
through dialogue. We haven't had the experience of it yet
to sort of forgive him, right, And yeah, that's why
I thought it was. It was difficult, Right, it was
difficult scene, I.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Thought, Yeah, I thought it was. And again, I don't
have a lot of the backstory because you know, I
came out in season three, so didn't I don't know
anything that went on before that.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I here's some thoughts to artists for you, as if
we need any. Harry's to be saying all the right
things about Christopher. But Laurel and Road know another side
of him, which I think we've been trying to explain
to our audience, who already knows far more than we do.
Do you think Laureli is jealous because she didn't get
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Sherry's version of Christopher when she was pregnant.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
That was my first thought, absolutely, that's yeah, she did
not get that Christopher.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
What does she have that I don't?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Nice for one alphabetized CDs?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, what does she have?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It was like a neat thing. It was orderly, she's orderly.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It could have been you know, he could be Christopher
could have been one of those you know man children, right,
and you know, can't pick up his toys, and so
Sherry's right behind him, you know, just picking up making
him some banana brea, you know, come by.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Maybe Christopher just needed a mom.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He needed and that's who that's who Sherry is to him.
Whereas Loralai was not ready willing or able to play
that role, probably not willing to play that role because
who wants who wants to be their partner's parent? You know,
it's a whole other podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, you know, how hard really would it be to
attend the NeXT's baby shower? How would you handle this?
Like the male male version? How would you handle that?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
What is the male version of a baby show?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't think it's a bachelor party?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I guess you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You wouldn't go to the bachelor party? Would you?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Would you be close enough to that dude his circle
of friends to be invited to the party? No?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, And even if I were, I don't know that
I would want like why why? Yeah? She should have gone,
she should have gone shopping.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Right, you know what goes on with those things? And
then you go back to her and say that now
I have the AMMO to get you back because guess
what mm hmm, Mayor Dinkle, guess what, mayor the mayor?
Did you know?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Right? Nothing good comes from nothing good? Nothing good can
come of that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, So you think you think Sherry's being too pushy
when it comes to forcing a family with Rory and
Laurel Iman. Did you hear all it? Did?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It did seem forced when she said that, you know, oh,
I've already. Yeah, I mapped it. You know, I know
how long it'll take for Rory to to walk the
two point six miles or whatever it is. Yeah, that
was That was a little much. That was a little like,
I'm trying to be your mommy and and uh as
someone who was. It was interesting watching this because I
(16:02):
last time I watched an episode of Goo More Girls,
I was in my twenties and now I'm in my
forties and I'm remarried, but was a single father. So
imagining myself in Lorelei's shoes with some dude right flipping
the role, reversing the roles, some dude just stepping in
(16:22):
newly wanted to be my daughter's father, I'd be like, no, man, yeah,
and I'm not coming to your bachelor party.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Right exactly, yeah, right, the protest, I believe that was
Dan Paladino as a birth that was Okay, I think
it was Dan. I think it was.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And do we ever see him again?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Does he in the you know, he was in the
pilot episode walking out of the diner the very first scene, okay,
or the second scene, the first scene inside the diner.
We see him leaving the diner as as Laurel eyes
walking in Okay, and Dan has been in I hang
a couple maybe several Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So it's like the Larry David Easter eggs on Seinfeld.
The damn Palladino's of Okay makes sense. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He's creating lore. The the protest is about to start.
The crowd gathers in front of the church. That's a
nice little towny thing. The town owner tries to hang
the sign up, but it rips in half. We can't
see what's on the side, and they wonder what the
hecks he's he's shouting about apparently starts with an arm right,
(17:36):
and Jesse sees. This is where Jess sees someone that
egged his car. Luke points out that that's Paprika, So
that's gotta be double X.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That's that's a good observation.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
By the way, is a very as the person who cooks. Yes,
the protest fails. I thought that was pretty funny Rory
and Laurel I walking by just and telling them they
were they were home all night.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So many alibis, yeah, just unprompted. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Overall, what did you think of the episode.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I enjoyed it very much.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I had.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I had several laugh out loud moments again, that scene
with you and Milor you Jess in the in the apartment,
with the Walmart conversation. It was great. I would have
watched again. I would have watched an hour of that.
I enjoyed it very much. I enjoyed watching Gilmore Girls
knowing I wasn't gonna be on the episode. Do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, So let's talk a little bit about you.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You're in three episodes MS boyfriend, Jamie. Do you have
any idea what you were in for? Is Paris Love
Love interesting? I mean, I know you read the scripts, but.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I that first day on set.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oh it was. It was terrifying. It was absolutely terrifying.
So I went to I graduated with a batchel of
fine arts in theater, and so I you know, I
could have moved to New York and been on a
Broadway show that day and known exactly what to do,
how to do it. I was not prepared to hit
(19:16):
a mark. I was not prepared for any any of
the process of filmmaking, none of it. And so I
show up to set and they tell me to get
settled in my dressing room, and to come out when
I'm settled in. I didn't know that meant like put
your stuff down and go to makeup. So forty five
minutes later, I hear a knock at the door, like
(19:36):
what are you doing, dude? I was like, Oh, you
told me to settle in, So yeah, so I drifted
over to makeup and got eventually got on set, and
I mean, not my finest acting moment, for sure. I
was terrified.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I was.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I was like, I nailed the audition because auditioning was
easy for me, and then getting on set was like
all of these things that I had never heard about
or seen before. Really as far as like in the
eyes and the shoes of an actor, it was. It
was intimidating, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, okay, what was it like doing your scenes with
Lisa Will? Did they do my chemistry? Did you guys
do a chemistry check for the audition?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
No? There was there was no chemistry test. No there was.
I think there was just an audition and then a
producer's session and that was it. I booked the job. Uh,
And no, we didn't meet until we showed up for work.
And yeah, Liza and I hit it off. Immediately. I
really enjoyed working with her. There was a natural kind
of banter there and it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Had you watched any episodes with her before? Did you
know what you were walking into?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I had no idea what I was walking into. This
was before I think YouTube, This was before streaming, so
it wasn't like I could be like, Okay, I'm gonna
pull that up and watch an episode, right. So I
was told to speak quickly and I basically just applied
all the notes that I got in the audition for
the day.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well, you know, Paris and Joyle are divorce. Now on
the revival, you think you got a shot something else?
You're coming back?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I would I would love nothing more than to come back.
So whoever was listening, yeah, I would love that. I
would love that. It would be great.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So you have over.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
This.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This is thirteen hundred episodes that you did on General
Hospital and Days of Our Lives. Did the quickness of
Gilmore Girls? Now? I know I already know the answer
this question. I believe that you thrived on the Gilmore Girls.
That in correct. Stop me if I'm wrong, Because you
were such a veteran on soap operas, Because soap operas
(21:42):
they do ten pages a day, minimum, don't they. They
do even more than that.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So it's like it's like coming on to Gilmore Girls
was probably relaxing for you, given the schedule that you
have to deal with every day on a soap opera. Correct.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, yes, but uh, this was my first job. Gilmore
Girls was my first job.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You had, you had, you hadn't, Oh, this is no job.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
The daytime didn't come till five years after Gilmore Wow.
So no, it actually it was great because Gilmore Girls
as a first job is kind of like a baptism
by fire right. Oh, there's everything moves very quickly. It
moves quicker than any other primetime show I've ever done.
And it was great because, yeah, you have to show
up and commit and know your lines backwards, forwards, upside down,
(22:29):
and so yeah, it's it definitely paved the way for
a much easier foray into daytime. And I mean there
were days where I just myself would have thirty forty
pages of dialogue, no joke on Days or on General Hospital. Yeah,
because those shows shoot about a show and a half
(22:50):
a day, showing a third to a show and a half,
so it's over one hundred page either day.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They do one hundred pages a day, yes, oh, good gosh, yes,
oh and most of the time, Scott, you get one shot,
one shot if the words come out and they make
sense and no one fumbles.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Egregiously, you're moving on.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm just this is stunning.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It's crazy, dude, it is. There's nothing that prepares you
better for any other role than a daytime show.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Having okay, now, having gone through twelve hundred episodes, you
think you would have walked on the Gilmour set salty, seasoned,
ready to rock, no big deal, like, just go ahead,
hit me with your best shot.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, yeah, oh I got eight pages today, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, all right, Wow what a bummer, you know, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Wake me when it's over, you know it's yeah, it's
my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Oh man. You know your problem is you're not You're
not very much fun.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You're really I know, I get that a lot. I
have no friends none.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's been it's been wonderful catching it up with your Brandon.
I wish we had time. Thanks for the laughs, thanks
for the injury, appreciate it anytime.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Thank you for having me. Really is you got it?
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Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast. Want
to eleve the productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast. We are at
season three, Episode six, Take the Deviled Eggs air date
November five, So yesterday was the what the twenty third
anniversary of this episode? November five, two thousand and two,
(00:45):
And by the time you're hearing this, it'll be even older.
Jess confesses to getting a new job to pay for
his car, but the town is upset because the incident
with Rory's car and that the accident, Rory and Lorie
ten cherries Baby Shore and find out way too much
information about Christopher and the town. Lonner stages a podcast
(01:08):
a protest, not a.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Podcast, but a podcastiled into the future.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
He tiled in the podcast a Protest, A protest Director
Daniel Babbitt, writer Daniel Palladino, and I am joined today
yet again by Brandon Brash. Hello Brandon, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What's happening? Scott? I'm great?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Good? Good? You're from Saint Louis. You're best known for
your daytime soap operas eight hundred episodes, Hospital, five hundred
episodes Days of Our Lives? Did you have something against
Days of Our Lives? You did three hundred less. We'll
get into that. You might recognize him as Jamie who
dates Paris Geller for the first three episodes of Gilmore Girls.
(01:55):
Now Brandon. We start off the Shenanigan's here with Gilmore
Girls town meeting, Taylor's holding a town meeting, and Miss
Patty's date with Jesus keeps interrupting it, which is kind
of funny. I discussed the town Loader and him holding
a protest in the square. He doesn't want him to
(02:17):
do it. Taylor does. The reverend and the Rabbi, which
was a very funny scene with Taylor allowing the town
Loader to protest in front of the church. I really
enjoyed that banter between the Rabbi, the priest, and Taylor, and.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It was great. The Rabbi's hot dog line was just
was pretty spot on. Yeah. Classic.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So this episode definitely shows the quirkiness of Stars Hollow, Brandon,
who's your favorite Stars Hallow resident in this episode?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
In this aside from Jesus, you mean aside aside from
hey zeus my favorite stars Hollow resident. Gosh, that's a
great question. It would have to be. I don't know.
I enjoyed. I enjoyed the bit at the end with
the deviled eggs in the car and Rory and Lorelai
(03:11):
getting getting some revenge on Jess, poor Jess, by the way.
But uh, I would have to say, because I think
it was Rory's idea.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Maybe Rory Okay, after the town, meaning Okay, just gets
the Brandon just got a car, just got a cart
car after the town, just pulls up to Luke's in
a car. It's a beater, you know it's it's a
real beater. But but Luke wants to know where he
got money, where he bought it?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
What grown man though, did not dream of doing what
Jess did right, just saving up and buying a beater
of a car and having the wherewithal to fix it.
God knows, I don't, but I've always wanted to be
that guy. It's like, yeah, I need to, Uh, I
need to. I can't even think of a car park,
that's how terrible I am at fixing cars.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I Yeah, continues to be skeptical. Yeah, there was always
that guy in high school that pulled up in a
car that was like emitting so much smog that it
was like people would run away from it. And he
was very proud of that car.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He was. Yeah, jeez.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So Luke continues to be skeptical and asked Gypsy about
the car and how he paid. How Jess Payton even
goes through Jess things to find out more. Yeah, letting
Ury get into an argument with just about his new car.
Uh what do you think about that little that little
(04:34):
argument with oh the.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
One that uh yeah, that they that they kind of
pick with Jesse.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I was so curious because obviously it's been over two
decades since I've watched an episode of The Gilmore Girls
and been on The Gilmore Girls, so a lot of
stuff has fallen by the wayside. But so Jess, Jess
and Rory were a couple before this, right, And did
Jess cheat on her? Did he must wronged her in
some way? To dress the response, it was the car
(05:05):
accident with her car.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
The car the Dean built for Rory.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh see that hurts. See now I like the deviled
eggs scene even more. Yeah, was it warranted? So did
did just take responsibility for the accident or was he like,
not my circus, not my monkey.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't know. Yeah, I still can't get that image
out of my head. Does it really matter if he
took her responsibility?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, I'm just I'm trying to justify the anger, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Uh, well, you know it's like teenage girl anger.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's teenage girl anger, and it's TV.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So this guy, this guy is making out with this
blonde chick right in front of me, right in my face,
seemingly every day. Yeah, and then he destroys my car
and then has the nerve to park this thing, just
piece of junk, in front of front of Luke's Ever.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That's that's pretty brutal. Yeah, that's that's pretty brutal. I'm
not gonna lie, right. You know, I did a lot
of crappy things in my twenties, and I don't know
if I would have done that, So shame on you.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think I think I think that Jess definitely loses
the car game, yeah to Dean and Dean. Dean wins
the car gaming, he wins the boyfriend game. Jess seems
to be, you know, distracting Rory so much with his
looks and his coolness and his brain and now this
(06:35):
junkie Now, now he comes up with this junkie car. Really,
I don't know, he kind of he kind of really
gets kind of lambasted.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
In this episode, Jess knows Luke went through his stuff.
He finally tells him he's been working at Walmart. Luke
is impressed, and he just then he just rides him.
He just he just seizes them.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So I have a question for you about that, if
you don't mind, yes, please, And I mean I don't
remember what I have for breakfast on Saturday, so I
don't know if I expect you to remember this. But
my favorite scene of that whole episode was the reveal
of just working at Walmart and the banter between you two.
I thought it was brilliant. I thought it was fun,
it was natural, it was it was effortless. So my
(07:20):
question is, was any of that improvised? Oh no, how
you were? You were letter perfect on that?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh no, you don't improvise in this show.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, okay, see I did. I only did. I only
did three three episodes, so I don't know. But it
was so good. It was like I want I would
have watched an hour of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Oh when have you ever seen Luke having so much fun?
That guy didn't have a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, so that was it.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
He was either like very stelic and kind of like
you know, down, not down, but just shut off, cut off. Yeah, yeah,
and intense looking, or he was you know, ranting about something.
But he was rarely happy, right and this is this
is and that it shocked me too because it's like, hey,
you know, he looks really happy. Yeah, because he's having
(08:11):
a good time totally. And I think it was just
a great opportunity for Luke to I don't know, deep
in the relationship somehow. I think he was so thrilled
that Jess wasn't you know, hadn't committed a crime to
get the money, and he was actually like maybe his
influence was working and he was gaining some responsibility and
(08:35):
he got a second job and maybe this for just
so it was all relieved and happiness and you know,
now I've got you know, like my little sort of
you know, rent to son here. Yeah, but it was
it's nice to see him light and lighthearted.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And yeah, it was a great scene.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, thank you. On the way home, from Sherry's Ror
and Laurli obviously devil egg yesh car. Right, should Luke
trust Jess Moore at this point? Do you think I think?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah? I think I think after the whole you know,
I'm working two jobs and I save to get this car.
I didn't do anything illegal under the table, didn't win it,
you know, didn't win money gambling. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, And.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Just at the point that he appears to be turning
his life around a little bit, this is when he
is the least attractive to to Rory.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, you know, girls love the bad boy.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I mean, he's a lot of he's a conformist now
with a car.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, so he's boring all of a sudden to
Rory Brandon.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Do you remember your first car? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It was a Ford Probe. What a name for a car, right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Robe, Rob, Yeah, yeah, not a verb?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
What was your first car?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
My first car that I that I purchased, Oh, that
I purchased her?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That okay.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
My first car that I purchased was a Volkswagen Beetle.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
What color it was?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It was baby blue? Beautiful and I should have painted it,
but but I just I don't know. It was like
a perfect car. Yeah, perfect air, you know. Yeah, And
it's just you know, stick shift. I drove the hell
out of that thing, man, and it just never broke down,
(10:33):
and it just it was just you know, it's just
my little car.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Love it. Yeah, better than my Ford Probe let me
tell you. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I didn't really have a choice of the color because
I bought it used obviously, but man, it was it
was a it was a honey. That thing just was
like in perfect condition. Nice all right. Rory gets invited
to Sherry's baby shower. She admits that she's been in
contact with Christopher apologize Laurel I think she doesn't need
(11:10):
to go, and she felt like she was betraying laurrele
I to begin with. So Rory decides to go to Sherry's,
but as Laura's dropping her off, Sherry's these Laurel and
invites her in. She's being very persuasive and Laura I
reluctantly agrees.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
To participate in the festivities.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
They're in Christopher's apartment. Cherry basically remodeled the entire apartment
away from Chris style. Laurrela has been awkward playing games,
and they find out a lot about Sharon Christopher, he
has been unbelievably supportive, and then she thanks him for
convincing She thanks Laurai for convincing Christopher to be involved
(11:51):
during Suki's wedding weekend, involved in their relationship. So Morrela
has a meltdown in the bathroom because she hates hearing
how great Chris is.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So was she still hung up on Christopher?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know, did you find this to be a little awkward?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Right, I think for the same reasons I found it
a bit awkward. It's like, this is a stretch, you know,
rehabilitating a guy who has, you know, consistently let down
these two. Yeah, and then here he's in a completely
different situation that we're not really involved in it all.
We haven't seen any of this. We're just hearing this
(12:29):
through dialogue. We haven't had the experience of it yet
to sort of forgive him, right, And yeah, that's why
I thought it was. It was difficult, Right, it was
difficult scene, I.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Thought, Yeah, I thought it was. And again, I don't
have a lot of the backstory because you know, I
came out in season three, so didn't I don't know
anything that went on before that.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I here's some thoughts to artists for you, as if
we need any. Harry's to be saying all the right
things about Christopher. But Laurel and Road know another side
of him, which I think we've been trying to explain
to our audience, who already knows far more than we do.
Do you think Laureli is jealous because she didn't get
(13:19):
Sherry's version of Christopher when she was pregnant.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
That was my first thought, absolutely, that's yeah, she did
not get that Christopher.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
What does she have that I don't?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Nice for one alphabetized CDs?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, what does she have?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It was like a neat thing. It was orderly, she's orderly.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It could have been you know, he could be Christopher
could have been one of those you know man children, right,
and you know, can't pick up his toys, and so
Sherry's right behind him, you know, just picking up making
him some banana brea, you know, come by.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Maybe Christopher just needed a mom.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He needed and that's who that's who Sherry is to him.
Whereas Loralai was not ready willing or able to play
that role, probably not willing to play that role because
who wants who wants to be their partner's parent? You know,
it's a whole other podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, you know, how hard really would it be to
attend the NeXT's baby shower? How would you handle this?
Like the male male version? How would you handle that?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
What is the male version of a baby show?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't think it's a bachelor party?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I guess you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You wouldn't go to the bachelor party? Would you?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Would you be close enough to that dude his circle
of friends to be invited to the party? No?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, And even if I were, I don't know that
I would want like why why? Yeah? She should have gone,
she should have gone shopping.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Right, you know what goes on with those things? And
then you go back to her and say that now
I have the AMMO to get you back because guess
what mm hmm, Mayor Dinkle, guess what, mayor the mayor?
Did you know?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Right? Nothing good comes from nothing good? Nothing good can
come of that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, So you think you think Sherry's being too pushy
when it comes to forcing a family with Rory and
Laurel Iman. Did you hear all it? Did?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It did seem forced when she said that, you know, oh,
I've already. Yeah, I mapped it. You know, I know
how long it'll take for Rory to to walk the
two point six miles or whatever it is. Yeah, that
was That was a little much. That was a little like,
I'm trying to be your mommy and and uh as
someone who was. It was interesting watching this because I
(16:02):
last time I watched an episode of Goo More Girls,
I was in my twenties and now I'm in my
forties and I'm remarried, but was a single father. So
imagining myself in Lorelei's shoes with some dude right flipping
the role, reversing the roles, some dude just stepping in
(16:22):
newly wanted to be my daughter's father, I'd be like, no, man, yeah,
and I'm not coming to your bachelor party.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Right exactly, yeah, right, the protest, I believe that was
Dan Paladino as a birth that was Okay, I think
it was Dan. I think it was.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And do we ever see him again?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Does he in the you know, he was in the
pilot episode walking out of the diner the very first scene, okay,
or the second scene, the first scene inside the diner.
We see him leaving the diner as as Laurel eyes
walking in Okay, and Dan has been in I hang
a couple maybe several Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So it's like the Larry David Easter eggs on Seinfeld.
The damn Palladino's of Okay makes sense. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He's creating lore. The the protest is about to start.
The crowd gathers in front of the church. That's a
nice little towny thing. The town owner tries to hang
the sign up, but it rips in half. We can't
see what's on the side, and they wonder what the
hecks he's he's shouting about apparently starts with an arm right,
(17:36):
and Jesse sees. This is where Jess sees someone that
egged his car. Luke points out that that's Paprika, So
that's gotta be double X.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That's that's a good observation.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
By the way, is a very as the person who cooks. Yes,
the protest fails. I thought that was pretty funny Rory
and Laurel I walking by just and telling them they
were they were home all night.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So many alibis, yeah, just unprompted. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Overall, what did you think of the episode.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I enjoyed it very much.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I had.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I had several laugh out loud moments again, that scene
with you and Milor you Jess in the in the apartment,
with the Walmart conversation. It was great. I would have
watched again. I would have watched an hour of that.
I enjoyed it very much. I enjoyed watching Gilmore Girls
knowing I wasn't gonna be on the episode. Do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, So let's talk a little bit about you.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You're in three episodes MS boyfriend, Jamie. Do you have
any idea what you were in for? Is Paris Love
Love interesting? I mean, I know you read the scripts, but.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I that first day on set.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oh it was. It was terrifying. It was absolutely terrifying.
So I went to I graduated with a batchel of
fine arts in theater, and so I you know, I
could have moved to New York and been on a
Broadway show that day and known exactly what to do,
how to do it. I was not prepared to hit
(19:16):
a mark. I was not prepared for any any of
the process of filmmaking, none of it. And so I
show up to set and they tell me to get
settled in my dressing room, and to come out when
I'm settled in. I didn't know that meant like put
your stuff down and go to makeup. So forty five
minutes later, I hear a knock at the door, like
(19:36):
what are you doing, dude? I was like, Oh, you
told me to settle in, So yeah, so I drifted
over to makeup and got eventually got on set, and
I mean, not my finest acting moment, for sure. I
was terrified.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I was.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I was like, I nailed the audition because auditioning was
easy for me, and then getting on set was like
all of these things that I had never heard about
or seen before. Really as far as like in the
eyes and the shoes of an actor, it was. It
was intimidating, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, okay, what was it like doing your scenes with
Lisa Will? Did they do my chemistry? Did you guys
do a chemistry check for the audition?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
No? There was there was no chemistry test. No there was.
I think there was just an audition and then a
producer's session and that was it. I booked the job. Uh,
And no, we didn't meet until we showed up for work.
And yeah, Liza and I hit it off. Immediately. I
really enjoyed working with her. There was a natural kind
of banter there and it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Had you watched any episodes with her before? Did you
know what you were walking into?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I had no idea what I was walking into. This
was before I think YouTube, This was before streaming, so
it wasn't like I could be like, Okay, I'm gonna
pull that up and watch an episode, right. So I
was told to speak quickly and I basically just applied
all the notes that I got in the audition for
the day.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well, you know, Paris and Joyle are divorce. Now on
the revival, you think you got a shot something else?
You're coming back?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I would I would love nothing more than to come back.
So whoever was listening, yeah, I would love that. I
would love that. It would be great.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So you have over.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
This.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This is thirteen hundred episodes that you did on General
Hospital and Days of Our Lives. Did the quickness of
Gilmore Girls? Now? I know I already know the answer
this question. I believe that you thrived on the Gilmore Girls.
That in correct. Stop me if I'm wrong, Because you
were such a veteran on soap operas, Because soap operas
(21:42):
they do ten pages a day, minimum, don't they. They
do even more than that.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So it's like it's like coming on to Gilmore Girls
was probably relaxing for you, given the schedule that you
have to deal with every day on a soap opera. Correct.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, yes, but uh, this was my first job. Gilmore
Girls was my first job.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You had, you had, you hadn't, Oh, this is no job.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
The daytime didn't come till five years after Gilmore Wow.
So no, it actually it was great because Gilmore Girls
as a first job is kind of like a baptism
by fire right. Oh, there's everything moves very quickly. It
moves quicker than any other primetime show I've ever done.
And it was great because, yeah, you have to show
up and commit and know your lines backwards, forwards, upside down,
(22:29):
and so yeah, it's it definitely paved the way for
a much easier foray into daytime. And I mean there
were days where I just myself would have thirty forty
pages of dialogue, no joke on Days or on General Hospital. Yeah,
because those shows shoot about a show and a half
(22:50):
a day, showing a third to a show and a half,
so it's over one hundred page either day.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They do one hundred pages a day, yes, oh, good gosh, yes,
oh and most of the time, Scott, you get one shot,
one shot if the words come out and they make
sense and no one fumbles.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Egregiously, you're moving on.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm just this is stunning.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It's crazy, dude, it is. There's nothing that prepares you
better for any other role than a daytime show.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Having okay, now, having gone through twelve hundred episodes, you
think you would have walked on the Gilmour set salty, seasoned,
ready to rock, no big deal, like, just go ahead,
hit me with your best shot.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, yeah, oh I got eight pages today, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, all right, Wow what a bummer, you know, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Wake me when it's over, you know it's yeah, it's
my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Oh man. You know your problem is you're not You're
not very much fun.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You're really I know, I get that a lot. I
have no friends none.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's been it's been wonderful catching it up with your Brandon.
I wish we had time. Thanks for the laughs, thanks
for the injury, appreciate it anytime.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Thank you for having me. Really is you got it?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Buddy, and to everybody out there, remember Holidays Made Here.
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(24:30):
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Speaker 3 (24:48):
State see.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
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