October 27, 2025 • 21 mins
He plays Babette’s lovable husband Morey… Ted Rooney is back to recap Season 3, Episode 2 with Scott!
Ted shares a heart pounding moment that made him relate to Kirk in this episode.
Let’s agree to disagree; Ted and Scott debate Jess and Rory’s Doose’s face-off. Was it a risk or just real talk?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh that's you.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast one
eleven Productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast very special guest with
us today. I'm gonna tell you about him. In a minute,
we are gonna break down Haunted Leg Season three, Episode two.
Mister moriy Dell himself is here, Ted Rooney, Ted, Hi,
(00:40):
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are things doing great? Loving in the Northwest autumn?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's beautiful right the leaves are turning and it is
Gilmore time for sure. Christopher has a heated discussion with Lorelei.
Emily intervenes, Franccene or Francie initiates a power struggle on
the student council. Meanwhile, Rory and Jess have it out
about their hurt feelings. Kirk asks someone out there's your
(01:11):
synopsis Directed by Chris Long, written by Amy Sherman Paladino.
Things are very awkward down between Emily and Laura I
Friday night dinner because she walked out if dropping the bomb.
Her and Christopher won't work out, and YadA, YadA, YadA,
All right, Ted all I meets up with her mother.
(01:32):
Right that goes against every rule in the Gilmour Survival
gud number one, no running with sister's number two, no
page boy haircuts, number three, never have lunch alone with
the mother. What do you think any rules for yourself
with family or in laws?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
My rules is definitely meet them one on one. You
get my whole family in the room, and you get
you know, one phrase out at a time. I have
eight brothers and sisters and we're wow each other. We
have a talking over culture. Actually meeting one on one
is the best solution.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Right. Well, they have lunch at Luke's mom, mother and daughter.
She tells you to talk to Christopher. She thinks she
would be rather she he would rather be with her
and Rory than Shelley, And she thinks Shelley is trying
to trap Christopher and encourages her to call him. Larel
gets upset, Yeah, and she runs out. What is ted?
(02:29):
She continues to shame her own daughter for not wanting
to work it out with Christopher. After witnessing the fight
she switched aside. So is she finally seeing what Laurela
has been talking about this entire time? Read Christopher by.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
The end of this episode, I think I think Emily
is seeing something. But right now at Luke Steiner when
she's having this talk which she says, Hey, we're just meeting.
I'm just meeting to hang out with you, there's no
way at the moment the conversation starts, it's right in
with Christopher and he thinks she's doing out of love right,
(03:03):
love right troll means love right right.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And now Laura and Rory are back at Friday night dinner.
Christopher storms in, asking to talk to Laura l I.
They get into a huge yelling match. Christopher says Rory
hasn't called back either. This is totally inappropriate for Christopher
to storm in like this, But we don't expect anything else, right,
Why is Christopher so desperate?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know, he still loves her and he doesn't like
how things are. Life gets messy when you mess around, right,
and this girl's pregnant. He doesn't like how things are.
I want things to work out with everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Right, right, And so that's statement when he said that,
I just I don't like how things are. No, he
sounded like a toddler, didn't He totally we boys, it
can be like boys. Sometimes yeah, but yeah, well, Rory
interrupts and she starts yelling at him that she hasn't
called him back because she doesn't want to, not anymore.
(04:11):
He promised her at the wedding that it was going
to work, and there then you got to deal with
this guy yet again. So Rory maybe finally sees Christopher
for who he really is. Should this ted? Should this
change her relationship with him?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, you know, at the end of the At the end,
uh Lorali talks about how you're gonna make up with
him eventually. See, it's a good mom seeing the big
picture instead of that right now. Yes, he sucks. Right now,
he's your dad and she's she's being a good mom.
She's not talking bad about him. He's being a jerk
(04:52):
and he doesn't understand what he's talking about. But eventually
I see that they're going to be friends, you know.
But for now she's being smart by shutting him out.
He's got to teach him a lesson. This is real life, man,
right all right?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Now we have Kirk asking Laurel I out on an
actual date. All right. This storyline obviously brought levity to
the episode. Did anyone did you ever think that's what
makes it funny. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Uh, we love guys like Kirk. You know, we find
it so hard to ask a girl out that we like.
And along comes Kirk and just the cajones to ask
out like Mount everest of all, you know, date possibilities
and just deadpan like he always is. You know, I
think we're the most beautiful people I've ever you know,
(05:47):
known she said something.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like that about her.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You got to you gotta love that, right, you love
it right? Well, you have no chance in help.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Luke is certainly having a good time teasing her about it.
You sell you, Yeah, wait for the big day and
all the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No matter if I don't know if at you Luke
at this point have some thoughts about you know, dreams
or anything like that about a Laura I. But you
don't feel threatened by Kirk, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well, yeah, if he did, that would be very odd,
wouldn't it. Yeah, Yeah, that would be very odd. We
would take him out of the running for her heart.
I would say those sweep steaks would be over for Luke.
Luke tells Laurai he convinced Kirk to ask her out,
and continues to tease her ted, would you go out
(06:46):
with someone just because they asked you out knowing how
hard it is as a as a as a fella.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That's there's two kinds of people, right, the ones that
just say yeah, no way, sorry, not going out, and
the ones are like, well, you know, okay, and but
they know it's not right. I think I waiver depending
on how much confidence I have between one or the other.
Do you know what I'm saying? I mean, I can
do either. I can I can bend over backwards and
(07:15):
make something happen. It just wasn't right right right, Well,
I can put my foot down sometimes when I'm feeling
good about who I am.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Right right, Well, laurl I conveniently runs into Kirk in
front of Luke's after the debacle with Christopher and she
tells him she can't go out with him. He takes
it well. I thought she was extraordinarily polite and kind
about it. I mean, she says, you know, I like
you and I don't want to hurt you, and yeah,
(07:45):
have you ever had And I already know the answer
the question, because we all have as men and former boys.
Have you ever had in at least I asked a
moment like.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's a good question. And again, two camps of people
are the ones that are have no fear about asking
and the ones that it's a big deal. For one time,
I can say one time I walked up with this
woman in LA when I was shopping for plants. Actually,
I walked up to her, and then I walked past
(08:18):
her and I walked to my car and I sat
there for five minutes. I got out of my car
back and went back into the store and said, hey,
I just wanted to say this is awkward, but I
thought you're kind of cool looking and I'd love to
go out to coffee.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I did it. What you say?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
She said, you know, I got a boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's a good well, that's a good way. You know,
that's a good way to say it, right, I did it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, my heart was pounding. Oh, Ted, you got to
be the man, You got to step up to the plate.
This is I'm learning that. I was learning that in
my forties. But oh, the woman who I eventually married,
I also then put it out there.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So yeah, I approached a girl of DMV once since
she saw me comment and she turned and she just
like hit me with a face full of shotgun shells
out of my have been face. I just I didn't
even get a word out. I just did a U turn.
(09:18):
Like everybody in the DMV stared at me, and I
just did a U turn and walked right out the door.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Never asked your gard in a DMV.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Well I learned that day. Yeah, I didn't know that,
but every time I passed the DMV. Now I shut
her all right, now, Rory on the student council, this
is getting interesting. Things are getting really political at children.
Rory gets sworn in for student Council. They have their
(09:47):
first meeting, but Paris doesn't allow anyone to talk. There
are no ideas being exchanged. It's just Paris dominating. Rory
points us out. Supposed to get to know everybody at
the meeting, but nobody did that. Francene threatens Rory over
Paris's behavior and tells her, since she is the head
of the Puffs and the most powerful organization at Chiltern,
she'll make her life a living hell if Rory doesn't
(10:10):
play the politics of this, because Francene wants things done
on the student council. Uh, all right, so they're getting political.
Whose side do you take Francine or Paris Head.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well who loves politics, but it's got you gotta do
what you gotta do, you know what I'm saying, you
gotta do. And so Rory gets it talking to and
she she plays politics and the Inmlene goes up. Yeah, yeah,
so you gotta do it, you gotta, you gotta grease palms,
(10:43):
make friends.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's like, do we expect anything else from Paris? Is
she too overbearing and controlling her? Is this an endearing
quality of hers? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, that's the way the writing is tricky because we
grow to like Paris in spite of her, you know,
obstinates and note all this and all that stuff. Yeah,
it takes all kinds of people, right.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Right, Yeah, I really I like that scene in the
bathroom and she's getting she's getting to talking to from
Saw with the shakedown, Rory shakedown. It's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That was a great little speech that Redhead did.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah she's good, right, Yeah, she nailed that. She really
owned that part. I wish that was a bigger role.
That's something I would have enjoyed seeing, you know, on
a on a regular basis. Those puffs. Yeah. See, now
(11:46):
we have Rory and Lorelei are backing stars hollow. All right,
Rory runs into Jests at Josie's Market, and you know,
it seems like the chemistry is still there. Do you
think there are they both denying their feelings for each
(12:06):
other still And why would Jess take such a chance like.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
That too by you know, confronting, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I mean he really kind of got in her face.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh yeah, Well I think this is like the reverse
of the other scene between Christopher and Lurlai. Lor and
Rory set him straight about this is the way things are,
and Jess is like, what are you talking about? You
are with somebody. I am with somebody. You know, it
doesn't mean that just clearly doesn't. He does have feelings
(12:40):
for Rory, but this this game playing, or this weird
kind of you know, I'm jealous or angry. I mean,
it's like you didn't write me, you didn't communicate with me.
You have a boyfriend, I have a girlfriend the way
this is the way things are. Rory doesn't like the
way things are. She would say, okay, can eat it too, right.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
There you go, there you go, good observation. You think
Jess was justified and listing all of that, right, in
front of her face. I mean, she was being a
little bit disagreeable, there wasn't she.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I don't know those episodes and how true what he
said was. But if it's true, then it's.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
True, you know, right, right, right right?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
What is he supposed to do with that information? You know? Obviously,
you know, he's free to do what he wants, and
they didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But that's but that's a real risk he was taking
losing her in that wh you know what I mean,
like really sort of confronting her in that way, in
such a firm way with the truth, you know, and
you know, throwing it back in her face. And you know,
people don't like that. They do not like to be
(13:51):
spoken to that way. They don't like to be called
out in that way in a public you know, in
a in a grocery store.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But I mean, it's the hard even.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
If she was asking for it, you know, wow, I
mean he really just unloaded on it, right.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I think That's why I AerR on the side of
being a nice guy sometimes and I admire people that
can do that in love to set the record straight
and now you see their relationship is right, you're dating someone.
Now they can be friends. They can they can communicate
with each other without that weird hm. So I feel
like he's rebooting their relationship. And in the long run,
(14:28):
you know, people break up and then you have that
main you've maintained that integrity in the relationship. So I
really admire the honesty. As much as it's hard for
me to say things like that to a person, I
don't know that what you don't seem to like it,
tell me why, I.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Say it just shows how arrogant he is.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Oh, you find it to be arrogant.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I found that to be extremely arrogant, and not somebody
who loved her. I just wanted to play games with
her to gain a psychological advantage, which that kind of
a tongue lashing is going to get you. It'll get
you the upper hand, it will free you from this
burden of feeling this way all the time. I think
(15:10):
it was almost a way of freeing him from the
from his feelings for Rory. Interesting, you know, and because man,
once you unload like that, there's a very big risk
that she's just gonna walk and the door is closing,
you know. That was that was a door slam.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So did you think he's dating that Marilyn Moreau in
order to just make Rory jealous because he was making
out in front of her and everything.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I think it's a fine line, yes and no. I
think it's a really fine line. I just thought he
went over the top with it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, you know, I don't know he's I guess he's
that guy, right, Yeah, he's that guy he is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah. So you're are you basically not a fan of
Jesse Jess and you've never been, or you just don't
you don't find him to be a.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Integrity Yes, and yes, it's it's interesting. What's the word
I'm looking for. He's just so damn full of himself.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I get it. I get why, right, he's over
compensating on so many levels. He's got some great qualities though,
you know, he's got some great qualities, and he is
blood and all that, but boy, he's just so full
of himself. Real risk there, anyway. We can debate that
till the cows come home. But I just think somebody
who's in love and really wants to move forward with
(16:35):
a relationship, and maybe I'm asking somebody who's you know,
sixteen or seventeen to be a lot more mature than
they possibly could be. But wow, that was But I
guess that's that's a sign of youth, right. They're just
reckless with each other. Everything's reckless. But wow, if it's
supposed to be such a special relationship, it's supposed to
be so you know, written in the stars as they
(16:59):
both wanted to. Then you know, of course that is
not how you would behave in my opinion. Anyway, Ted,
tell us about what you're doing now, what's going on
in your life?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, I think I mentioned before. I'm in charge of
a small theater in town twenty one to ten in Portland, Oregon,
and we're on our fourth season now, and we have
a play coming up at the first of the month,
Madonna of the Cat its original play by a local playwright,
Siue mac and it takes place within the world of
(17:30):
Winter's Tale, so it's fanciful and it's outdoor mostly and fun.
Our big ambition is to try to squeeze the huge
musical Man of La Mancha in our forty seat house
in May. So we're going to inpect you that and
that'll be my chance to get on stage again. And
don Quixote currently I'm in the big theater in Portland.
(17:52):
We have one regional theater in Portland, Portland Center Stage,
and we have two more weeks in the run of
Primary Trust, which is the first play of the season
at portm Center Stage. And so I'm on the big
stage using my training, supporting and shouting to the you know, twentieth, thirtieth, fortieth.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Row nice, great, great stuff, great.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Stuff, Gillmore gans out there, Gilmore fans out there, can
you come see the show?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Absolutely? And speaking of that, what's your experience been, like
twenty five year anniversary at Gilmore Girls or people approaching
you or people wanting to talk about it. Are you
noticing that there's this sort of ground swell of fandom
and never stopped growing. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't stop growing.
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The next generation kicks in, The next generation kicks in.
You know, I'm waiting for my daughter to have a
girl so that we can all three watch it together.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh, that'd be beautiful, amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
There's a there's an event up here in southern Washington
that I've been invited to because there's a group of
fans up there that you know, having me come up
right it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, these are cropping up all over the United States. Yeah,
I mean there's literally thousands of these festivals going on,
these celebrations, town takeovers, people converting their diners. It's it's amazing.
I mean, my assistant tracks all this stuff. She didn't
used to look for it very hard. It's like there's
thousands of them, and we're getting all kinds of invitations
(19:20):
to show up and if you happen to be in
the area and we'd like to bring in incredible this
this fandom is celebrating like like like it's just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
We're gonna have a theater. I advented the theater just
to take you know, take advantage of it draws people
into the theater that haven't been into it. So we'll
definitely do that. But yeah, it's it's insane and I
was gonna say something I forgot, so we just cut
that part out.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It's insane. Ted appreciate you coming on, love spending time.
They will see you soon, hopefully one.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Once again, we did this out of order. Last time
we went right in order down the episode.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It is second time around. You got to change it up, man.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Oh, I see right out change it up.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, cool expeck to fastball, you throw, you take, you
take about ten miles an hour off it and change
it up. Man.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, thanks for I mean, I watched the episode. I've
watched more since the season, you know, the show got
went off the air than when it was on. And
but I start to get a little hooked. And this
one in particular, it is an emotional episode that Christopher
and Laurel I had. It's like, this is real life
stuff and I'm starting to get kind of pulled into
(20:36):
the Gilmore magic and the whole thing. The acting again,
it's just I never see a weak moment.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Hi, buddy, be well, Good luck with the play. Thanks Scott,
we'll talk soon, and thanks for coming. I remember best
fans on the planet. Keep those cards and letters coming,
and remember where you lead, we will follow.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Stay safe, everyone, everybody'll forget.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh that's you.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast one
eleven Productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast very special guest with
us today. I'm gonna tell you about him. In a minute,
we are gonna break down Haunted Leg Season three, Episode two.
Mister moriy Dell himself is here, Ted Rooney, Ted, Hi,
(00:40):
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are things doing great? Loving in the Northwest autumn?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's beautiful right the leaves are turning and it is
Gilmore time for sure. Christopher has a heated discussion with Lorelei.
Emily intervenes, Franccene or Francie initiates a power struggle on
the student council. Meanwhile, Rory and Jess have it out
about their hurt feelings. Kirk asks someone out there's your
(01:11):
synopsis Directed by Chris Long, written by Amy Sherman Paladino.
Things are very awkward down between Emily and Laura I
Friday night dinner because she walked out if dropping the bomb.
Her and Christopher won't work out, and YadA, YadA, YadA,
All right, Ted all I meets up with her mother.
(01:32):
Right that goes against every rule in the Gilmour Survival
gud number one, no running with sister's number two, no
page boy haircuts, number three, never have lunch alone with
the mother. What do you think any rules for yourself
with family or in laws?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
My rules is definitely meet them one on one. You
get my whole family in the room, and you get
you know, one phrase out at a time. I have
eight brothers and sisters and we're wow each other. We
have a talking over culture. Actually meeting one on one
is the best solution.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Right. Well, they have lunch at Luke's mom, mother and daughter.
She tells you to talk to Christopher. She thinks she
would be rather she he would rather be with her
and Rory than Shelley, And she thinks Shelley is trying
to trap Christopher and encourages her to call him. Larel
gets upset, Yeah, and she runs out. What is ted?
(02:29):
She continues to shame her own daughter for not wanting
to work it out with Christopher. After witnessing the fight
she switched aside. So is she finally seeing what Laurela
has been talking about this entire time? Read Christopher by.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
The end of this episode, I think I think Emily
is seeing something. But right now at Luke Steiner when
she's having this talk which she says, Hey, we're just meeting.
I'm just meeting to hang out with you, there's no
way at the moment the conversation starts, it's right in
with Christopher and he thinks she's doing out of love right,
(03:03):
love right troll means love right right.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And now Laura and Rory are back at Friday night dinner.
Christopher storms in, asking to talk to Laura l I.
They get into a huge yelling match. Christopher says Rory
hasn't called back either. This is totally inappropriate for Christopher
to storm in like this, But we don't expect anything else, right,
Why is Christopher so desperate?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know, he still loves her and he doesn't like
how things are. Life gets messy when you mess around, right,
and this girl's pregnant. He doesn't like how things are.
I want things to work out with everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Right, right, And so that's statement when he said that,
I just I don't like how things are. No, he
sounded like a toddler, didn't He totally we boys, it
can be like boys. Sometimes yeah, but yeah, well, Rory
interrupts and she starts yelling at him that she hasn't
called him back because she doesn't want to, not anymore.
(04:11):
He promised her at the wedding that it was going
to work, and there then you got to deal with
this guy yet again. So Rory maybe finally sees Christopher
for who he really is. Should this ted? Should this
change her relationship with him?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, you know, at the end of the At the end,
uh Lorali talks about how you're gonna make up with
him eventually. See, it's a good mom seeing the big
picture instead of that right now. Yes, he sucks. Right now,
he's your dad and she's she's being a good mom.
She's not talking bad about him. He's being a jerk
(04:52):
and he doesn't understand what he's talking about. But eventually
I see that they're going to be friends, you know.
But for now she's being smart by shutting him out.
He's got to teach him a lesson. This is real life, man,
right all right?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Now we have Kirk asking Laurel I out on an
actual date. All right. This storyline obviously brought levity to
the episode. Did anyone did you ever think that's what
makes it funny. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Uh, we love guys like Kirk. You know, we find
it so hard to ask a girl out that we like.
And along comes Kirk and just the cajones to ask
out like Mount everest of all, you know, date possibilities
and just deadpan like he always is. You know, I
think we're the most beautiful people I've ever you know,
(05:47):
known she said something.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like that about her.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You got to you gotta love that, right, you love
it right? Well, you have no chance in help.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Luke is certainly having a good time teasing her about it.
You sell you, Yeah, wait for the big day and
all the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No matter if I don't know if at you Luke
at this point have some thoughts about you know, dreams
or anything like that about a Laura I. But you
don't feel threatened by Kirk, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well, yeah, if he did, that would be very odd,
wouldn't it. Yeah, Yeah, that would be very odd. We
would take him out of the running for her heart.
I would say those sweep steaks would be over for Luke.
Luke tells Laurai he convinced Kirk to ask her out,
and continues to tease her ted, would you go out
(06:46):
with someone just because they asked you out knowing how
hard it is as a as a as a fella.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That's there's two kinds of people, right, the ones that
just say yeah, no way, sorry, not going out, and
the ones are like, well, you know, okay, and but
they know it's not right. I think I waiver depending
on how much confidence I have between one or the other.
Do you know what I'm saying? I mean, I can
do either. I can I can bend over backwards and
(07:15):
make something happen. It just wasn't right right right, Well,
I can put my foot down sometimes when I'm feeling
good about who I am.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Right right, Well, laurl I conveniently runs into Kirk in
front of Luke's after the debacle with Christopher and she
tells him she can't go out with him. He takes
it well. I thought she was extraordinarily polite and kind
about it. I mean, she says, you know, I like
you and I don't want to hurt you, and yeah,
(07:45):
have you ever had And I already know the answer
the question, because we all have as men and former boys.
Have you ever had in at least I asked a
moment like.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's a good question. And again, two camps of people
are the ones that are have no fear about asking
and the ones that it's a big deal. For one time,
I can say one time I walked up with this
woman in LA when I was shopping for plants. Actually,
I walked up to her, and then I walked past
(08:18):
her and I walked to my car and I sat
there for five minutes. I got out of my car
back and went back into the store and said, hey,
I just wanted to say this is awkward, but I
thought you're kind of cool looking and I'd love to
go out to coffee.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I did it. What you say?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
She said, you know, I got a boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's a good well, that's a good way. You know,
that's a good way to say it, right, I did it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, my heart was pounding. Oh, Ted, you got to
be the man, You got to step up to the plate.
This is I'm learning that. I was learning that in
my forties. But oh, the woman who I eventually married,
I also then put it out there.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So yeah, I approached a girl of DMV once since
she saw me comment and she turned and she just
like hit me with a face full of shotgun shells
out of my have been face. I just I didn't
even get a word out. I just did a U turn.
(09:18):
Like everybody in the DMV stared at me, and I
just did a U turn and walked right out the door.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Never asked your gard in a DMV.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Well I learned that day. Yeah, I didn't know that,
but every time I passed the DMV. Now I shut
her all right, now, Rory on the student council, this
is getting interesting. Things are getting really political at children.
Rory gets sworn in for student Council. They have their
(09:47):
first meeting, but Paris doesn't allow anyone to talk. There
are no ideas being exchanged. It's just Paris dominating. Rory
points us out. Supposed to get to know everybody at
the meeting, but nobody did that. Francene threatens Rory over
Paris's behavior and tells her, since she is the head
of the Puffs and the most powerful organization at Chiltern,
she'll make her life a living hell if Rory doesn't
(10:10):
play the politics of this, because Francene wants things done
on the student council. Uh, all right, so they're getting political.
Whose side do you take Francine or Paris Head.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well who loves politics, but it's got you gotta do
what you gotta do, you know what I'm saying, you
gotta do. And so Rory gets it talking to and
she she plays politics and the Inmlene goes up. Yeah, yeah,
so you gotta do it, you gotta, you gotta grease palms,
(10:43):
make friends.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's like, do we expect anything else from Paris? Is
she too overbearing and controlling her? Is this an endearing
quality of hers? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, that's the way the writing is tricky because we
grow to like Paris in spite of her, you know,
obstinates and note all this and all that stuff. Yeah,
it takes all kinds of people, right.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Right, Yeah, I really I like that scene in the
bathroom and she's getting she's getting to talking to from
Saw with the shakedown, Rory shakedown. It's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That was a great little speech that Redhead did.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah she's good, right, Yeah, she nailed that. She really
owned that part. I wish that was a bigger role.
That's something I would have enjoyed seeing, you know, on
a on a regular basis. Those puffs. Yeah. See, now
(11:46):
we have Rory and Lorelei are backing stars hollow. All right,
Rory runs into Jests at Josie's Market, and you know,
it seems like the chemistry is still there. Do you
think there are they both denying their feelings for each
(12:06):
other still And why would Jess take such a chance like.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
That too by you know, confronting, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I mean he really kind of got in her face.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh yeah, Well I think this is like the reverse
of the other scene between Christopher and Lurlai. Lor and
Rory set him straight about this is the way things are,
and Jess is like, what are you talking about? You
are with somebody. I am with somebody. You know, it
doesn't mean that just clearly doesn't. He does have feelings
(12:40):
for Rory, but this this game playing, or this weird
kind of you know, I'm jealous or angry. I mean,
it's like you didn't write me, you didn't communicate with me.
You have a boyfriend, I have a girlfriend the way
this is the way things are. Rory doesn't like the
way things are. She would say, okay, can eat it too, right.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
There you go, there you go, good observation. You think
Jess was justified and listing all of that, right, in
front of her face. I mean, she was being a
little bit disagreeable, there wasn't she.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I don't know those episodes and how true what he
said was. But if it's true, then it's.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
True, you know, right, right, right right?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
What is he supposed to do with that information? You know? Obviously,
you know, he's free to do what he wants, and
they didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But that's but that's a real risk he was taking
losing her in that wh you know what I mean,
like really sort of confronting her in that way, in
such a firm way with the truth, you know, and
you know, throwing it back in her face. And you know,
people don't like that. They do not like to be
(13:51):
spoken to that way. They don't like to be called
out in that way in a public you know, in
a in a grocery store.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But I mean, it's the hard even.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
If she was asking for it, you know, wow, I
mean he really just unloaded on it, right.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I think That's why I AerR on the side of
being a nice guy sometimes and I admire people that
can do that in love to set the record straight
and now you see their relationship is right, you're dating someone.
Now they can be friends. They can they can communicate
with each other without that weird hm. So I feel
like he's rebooting their relationship. And in the long run,
(14:28):
you know, people break up and then you have that
main you've maintained that integrity in the relationship. So I
really admire the honesty. As much as it's hard for
me to say things like that to a person, I
don't know that what you don't seem to like it,
tell me why, I.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Say it just shows how arrogant he is.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Oh, you find it to be arrogant.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I found that to be extremely arrogant, and not somebody
who loved her. I just wanted to play games with
her to gain a psychological advantage, which that kind of
a tongue lashing is going to get you. It'll get
you the upper hand, it will free you from this
burden of feeling this way all the time. I think
(15:10):
it was almost a way of freeing him from the
from his feelings for Rory. Interesting, you know, and because man,
once you unload like that, there's a very big risk
that she's just gonna walk and the door is closing,
you know. That was that was a door slam.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So did you think he's dating that Marilyn Moreau in
order to just make Rory jealous because he was making
out in front of her and everything.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I think it's a fine line, yes and no. I
think it's a really fine line. I just thought he
went over the top with it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, you know, I don't know he's I guess he's
that guy, right, Yeah, he's that guy he is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah. So you're are you basically not a fan of
Jesse Jess and you've never been, or you just don't
you don't find him to be a.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Integrity Yes, and yes, it's it's interesting. What's the word
I'm looking for. He's just so damn full of himself.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I get it. I get why, right, he's over
compensating on so many levels. He's got some great qualities though,
you know, he's got some great qualities, and he is
blood and all that, but boy, he's just so full
of himself. Real risk there, anyway. We can debate that
till the cows come home. But I just think somebody
who's in love and really wants to move forward with
(16:35):
a relationship, and maybe I'm asking somebody who's you know,
sixteen or seventeen to be a lot more mature than
they possibly could be. But wow, that was But I
guess that's that's a sign of youth, right. They're just
reckless with each other. Everything's reckless. But wow, if it's
supposed to be such a special relationship, it's supposed to
be so you know, written in the stars as they
(16:59):
both wanted to. Then you know, of course that is
not how you would behave in my opinion. Anyway, Ted,
tell us about what you're doing now, what's going on
in your life?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, I think I mentioned before. I'm in charge of
a small theater in town twenty one to ten in Portland, Oregon,
and we're on our fourth season now, and we have
a play coming up at the first of the month,
Madonna of the Cat its original play by a local playwright,
Siue mac and it takes place within the world of
(17:30):
Winter's Tale, so it's fanciful and it's outdoor mostly and fun.
Our big ambition is to try to squeeze the huge
musical Man of La Mancha in our forty seat house
in May. So we're going to inpect you that and
that'll be my chance to get on stage again. And
don Quixote currently I'm in the big theater in Portland.
(17:52):
We have one regional theater in Portland, Portland Center Stage,
and we have two more weeks in the run of
Primary Trust, which is the first play of the season
at portm Center Stage. And so I'm on the big
stage using my training, supporting and shouting to the you know, twentieth, thirtieth, fortieth.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Row nice, great, great stuff, great.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Stuff, Gillmore gans out there, Gilmore fans out there, can
you come see the show?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Absolutely? And speaking of that, what's your experience been, like
twenty five year anniversary at Gilmore Girls or people approaching
you or people wanting to talk about it. Are you
noticing that there's this sort of ground swell of fandom
and never stopped growing. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't stop growing.
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The next generation kicks in, The next generation kicks in.
You know, I'm waiting for my daughter to have a
girl so that we can all three watch it together.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh, that'd be beautiful, amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
There's a there's an event up here in southern Washington
that I've been invited to because there's a group of
fans up there that you know, having me come up
right it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, these are cropping up all over the United States. Yeah,
I mean there's literally thousands of these festivals going on,
these celebrations, town takeovers, people converting their diners. It's it's amazing.
I mean, my assistant tracks all this stuff. She didn't
used to look for it very hard. It's like there's
thousands of them, and we're getting all kinds of invitations
(19:20):
to show up and if you happen to be in
the area and we'd like to bring in incredible this
this fandom is celebrating like like like it's just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
We're gonna have a theater. I advented the theater just
to take you know, take advantage of it draws people
into the theater that haven't been into it. So we'll
definitely do that. But yeah, it's it's insane and I
was gonna say something I forgot, so we just cut
that part out.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It's insane. Ted appreciate you coming on, love spending time.
They will see you soon, hopefully one.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Once again, we did this out of order. Last time
we went right in order down the episode.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It is second time around. You got to change it up, man.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Oh, I see right out change it up.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, cool expeck to fastball, you throw, you take, you
take about ten miles an hour off it and change
it up. Man.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, thanks for I mean, I watched the episode. I've
watched more since the season, you know, the show got
went off the air than when it was on. And
but I start to get a little hooked. And this
one in particular, it is an emotional episode that Christopher
and Laurel I had. It's like, this is real life
stuff and I'm starting to get kind of pulled into
(20:36):
the Gilmore magic and the whole thing. The acting again,
it's just I never see a weak moment.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Hi, buddy, be well, Good luck with the play. Thanks Scott,
we'll talk soon, and thanks for coming. I remember best
fans on the planet. Keep those cards and letters coming,
and remember where you lead, we will follow.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Stay safe, everyone, everybody'll forget.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
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