December 15, 2025 • 38 mins
We are revisiting the iconic Gilmore Girls Thanksgiving with Leann Hunley aka Shira Huntzberger (Logan’s mom).
Leann will be joining us live at Warner Bros. on December 18th. She shares how, at this event, she’ll be doing something she’s never done before!
Plus, Scott drops a major statement about one of Leann’s scenes in the series, something he’s never said publicly… until now!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh, I am all in again with Scott Patterson and
iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I amil in Podcast, one of
Love Productions iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast. We are at season three,
episode nine, and we have a very special guest. By
the way, the episode is entitled A deep Fried Korean Thanksgiving.
We're going to go through this episode with the one
(00:43):
and only Leanne Hunley, who is an absolute force to
be reckoned with. Well, I'm Gilmore girls as Logan's mom
and Mitcham's wife. Welcome Shira Huntsberger herself. There she is.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
How you doing, Lian, I'm well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
To see all right, Before we get in this episode,
we want to share something here Leanne, don't we that
you right? Yeah, We'll be joining us for holidays made
here for the live podcast December eighteenth from Warner Brothers Studios.
Are you excited to visit stars Hollow?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I am? I am. Do you know I never ever
got in the street, so I filmed in the Dohina
mansion at one point, and I've been the studio on stage,
but yes, I'd be happy to be on the street.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, we're excited to have you and prepare yourself. It's
a it's.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
A raucous crowd.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's really something.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's ready for the holidays. I think it's fine.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's five thousand screaming fans. They're pumped. All right, Let's
let's go through the synopsis.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
LORELEI shocked to learn that Rory has applied to Yale,
and they have a memorable Thanksgiving and they end up
forcing down four celebratory meals, including a formal dinner party
with Richard and Emily and Oh What a Doozy That
was directed by Kenny Ortega, written by the incomparable Dan Palladino.
(02:17):
So Laurel is pretty much avoiding and has been avoiding
Emily's calls and hasn't attended two Friday night dinners in
a row, and Emily drops in at the end tells
Laurel that she expects her and Rory at Thanksgiving. Leanne,
how was your Thanksgiving? Let's talk about your Thanksgiving? Do
the prepping at all?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Life.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I usually I'm from Washington State, so I usually go home.
This year, I stayed here. I have relatives here, and
I went to their house and I take something every
year to something, I bring something, but I have done
the double duty Thanksgiving dinner before myself, so I sort
of appreciated that they were trying to do four in
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one day. I've only done two in one day.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Very ambitious, very ambitious.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So I thought it was very amusing to see them
try to eat that much and keep it all down.
It was really great.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. But as Laurlized states in the beginning, this
is what they were born to do, this is what
they're built for. Uh, well, I'm they going to first
They're going to missus Kim's and they have to Dave
Rigoalski's there hired as a Christian guitar player so that
they can lay the groundwork of Lane dating him. So funny, right,
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what a great story.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Very sweet little story. I love the moment when she
goes running out to try to find him and he's
right there, and it was just a sweet, little, romantic
little moment. I thought that, Yeah, I remember those days.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, as do why all right? Then they hid the
Suki's and Jackson is deep frying a turkey. Wow have
you ever deep fried? You?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Never? I've never tried it.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I've eaten it. I've had times at my family where
they've done it. Every They do like five different kinds
of turkey, one of which was deep fried, and then
we taste test everything. Obviously, I come from a very
large family, and it was it was very juicy. I
was kind of surprised myself. Oh yeah, yeah, But I
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can see where it would put off a really good chef.
It would hurt their heart that you would just cook
it that fast when you're supposed to do twenty minutes
pound and you're supposed to take your time with it.
So and I remember my first turkey that I ever cooked,
when I was first married, and I called my mother
to say, how do I cook this turkey? And she said,
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how big is it? I told her twenty pounds. She said,
get it in the oven. I said, what do I
do to it? I don't care what you do to it.
Just get it in the oven. It has to start
cooking now. So the deep fried turkey is kind of
a pretty good idea.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How long has that take to deep rive turkey?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
De fight turkey? It only takes like forty five minutes an.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Hour forty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Okay, I think they mentioned that in the episode, but
I could be completely wrong. Don't call I am not
a chef. Obviously, get it in the oven.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
All right, So they do, they go through that rigamarole.
Then they had the Lukes where they eat their meal
with Jess and Rory and Jeff. Jess have a little kiss,
and you know, Rory's having a hard time with the
PDA and with Jess because she feels guilty about Deans. So, yeah,
hilarious moments with Sally Struthers. You've got to give it
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a little effort next time, you know, you know, you
never lose with Sally. I mean, when Sally shows up,
you're having a good time.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It looks like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And then they finally had to the last stop Emily
and Richards, which I think is one of the classic
uh family scenes. But I'll tell you, I don't think
it's the classic family scene. And I want to talk
and come back to that. Leanne. I'm glad you're here
because we're going to talk about that what I consider
to be the finest moment of any family scene in
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any show I've ever seen. And they all sit down
at the table after they get through their kind of
awkward dining sorry, living room conversation and Laura continuing to
make jokes and annoying her parents, and then they sit
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down in rory Reville. She's applied to Yale Jennifer Aniston's father.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes, John, who I interject real quickly because I worked
with him a lot on my other show, on Days
of Our Lives. He was a protagonist on that show,
so I was real happy to see him when I
watched this episode. It was like such a treat for
me to see him.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He's got a tremendous presence, doesn't he Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
He truly does. And he was just he was such
a gentleman and a gentle man. He was such a
lovely man. Lovely man. Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now this is where Nori Rory announces that she, unbeknownst
to her mother, applied to backups Yale being one of them,
Princeton another. And this, you know, this really spins laurel
eye out. What do you think of this scene? I mean,
it's a great scene. And do you think the conflict
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was a little forced? Do you think Laurelized reaction.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Is over the top? How do you feel about this?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean it makes for great drama, It makes.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
For great drama, and I, you know, I can understand that,
to tell you the truth, because that's what shows, that's
what makes characters work, is a little something conflicting, and
everybody has to have their opinion about it. But I
did wonder what was her her reason for not wanting Yale,
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because if you're going to consider Princeton and Harvard, I
didn't understand the Yale thing. So I guess it's because
I don't know the original story with her father and
her and where that really comes from. But I'm all
for a little conflict because, like I said, that's what
makes a scene juicy. That's what an actor likes to do.
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That's what I like to do. I like to grab
onto something and that's a through line to get through
to the next thought, up to the arc where you
have to be, you know, in terms of where you're
going to land. And so for me, I bought it.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I bought it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I didn't. You know. One thing that is problematic is
that when you do know somebody in the scene, it
takes you out of the scene. And I'm thinking, okay,
well look out, Grady, and I'm thinking of him as
a friend as opposed to within the setting of the scene.
But that still doesn't matter. I mean, I just didn't
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really understand the reason why. But maybe that's explained before,
and maybe it's explained later in the series. I just
don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Mm hmm, yeah, I think to get you up to
speed a little bit, because I wasn't familiar either until
I started watching the show. As a result of doing
this podcast, I had to watch the show. Yeah, Laura
I was destined for Yale, and so they are. You know,
I think a Laurel I feels erased by her mother
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and father and they're pinning all their hopes and dreams
on their granddaughter to fulfill the promise that Laurel I
once held and failed in their eyes, and the family embarrassment,
the black sheep, the whole thing, the only child who
did not excel according to their standards, but according to
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her own she's she's really made a very nice life
for herself and her daughter, which I agree with. But
so that's the trigger.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Okay, Well, then that makes more sense if I knew
that one a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, they the previous episode, they took it. They took
it a trip to Yale, impromptu trip to Yale. It
was just grandfather and granddaughter, and then Emily showed up,
and then Laura I showed up. She found out about it,
and Richard had had organized the Dean of Admissions to
sit down with Rory and have a little chat, and Laura.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I got upset about that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay for dad manipulating the situation, and she was dead
set on Harvard and butt out, it's my life, it's
my daughter.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I make the decisions. You didn't consult with me. So
there you go.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I see, God makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, so she blew up at dinner. Yeah, all right,
back Dave. Dave leaves missus Kim's. He forgets his Bible,
Sweet missus Kim opens it up. Lane wants to run
it out to him. It's all obviously a setup, and
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opens the Bible and says, this belongs to God, but
I'm borrowing it for the time being.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
David Galski or something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, and that's when she runs out and they have
the first kiss. Nice storyline. I really enjoy particularly this
actor and these two together.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It was very sweet. And when I first started watching
the episode, I didn't see that coming. I didn't see
them together. But I have to say they really it
really connected. It was really heartfelt. It was a sweet
little moment. That is what I said. I love that
little moment when she runs right out and runs right
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into him, because there's an excitement when you're a young
girl and you're really kind of taken by somebody for
the first time. And I saw all of that in
those moments. And he seemed like a nice guy too.
He didn't seem like you wanted to take advantage of her.
He seemed like a stand up guy. So I really
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appreciated that as an audience and as a woman and
once a young girl once a long time ago. I
really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, all right, now we're back at Suki's. Suki is
three Sheets to the Wind and one of the most
hilarious drunken ma is on record. I mean, what a talent, right,
what is just a glorious performance from Melissa. Absolutely, and
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they're sort of checking in on her. She's just giving
in and it's don and the whole She's just lost
total control, the whole situation. Anyway, Shira Hunsberger would fit
in with Emily and Richard's Thanksgiving celebrations. But which one
would you want to attend of the four that Laurel
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I and Rory attended.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well, I'm torn between Emily and Richard's dinner. I like
tablecloths and silverware, but I also like the cafe. I
have to say, I like your cafe. I'm a old school,
Like I said, I'm homegrown an old school and I
like a comfortable and casual dinner as well. But I
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also enjoy a moment to dress up. So I would
like both of those, I think, And like I said,
I've kind of done that before where I've done both
of those in one day. So for me, it was
a sweet moment. Sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So the dynamic with the Gilmours and the Huntsburgers is
pretty similar, you know, wanting what's best for your child
or grandchild even though they can't see it. Yes, I'm
very aligned, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, And I see that. Although I know from what
I hear, the audience doesn't like my Shira very much
because she was so mean to Rory, and I can
truly appreciate that as well, because basically, you know, every
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girl wants to meet her prince charming, and if he
happens to be a prince, okay, that's great. But just
because she's not a princess, it's a hard place to be.
And Shira is since she came It wasn't told until
the second episode that I did where she came from
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suspect beginnings herself. So she's protecting that line at all
costs in terms of her, you know, lording over anybody
else and thinking that she's part of that club. And
so some of that came clear when I did the
second episode myself. I actually appreciated knowing that myself. But
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she had very lowly beginnings. But yeah, she gets so
she thinks she belongs in that world, in the world
of Richard and Emily. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I must say that the scene, the scene of the Huntsburgers,
when the entire thing just comes on glued and we
the level of dysfunction of that family.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Is shown at the dinner table.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
At the dinner table and then you go off and
sit somewhere in a chair and have a drink and
we're making comments. You know, it was like it was
like Who's afraid of Virginia Wolf? It was like Edward
Albie level absurdity and dysfunction. It was, Yeah, my favorite
family dinner scene I've maybe ever seen. It was hysterically funny,
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oh good, and it showed just how broken that family was. Yes,
what do you remember about that thing?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, what I do remember was we were filming in
the Dooheini Mansion, which was this beautiful old place and
I think it's run by nuns. And I remember the
morning I got there. They had rules, The nuns had rules.
We were not allowed. Nobody was allowed to smoke on
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on the property. Nobody was allowed to swear on the property.
That's crewe, that's cast, that's everybody. Everybody got this piece
of paper that said no swearing, no smoking, no nothing.
And then my character was supposed to go behind the
curtains of these drapes that were these old that have
been there one hundred years and smoke. So I was.
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I was actually back there smoking and handing off a
cigarette to a prop guy behind me behind the curtains
so that I could pop back out and speak to
the family and act like I wasn't smoking behind the curtains.
I felt very guilty. I was the only one sanctioned
to smoke on the property. But it was like, yeah,
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like a psychologically dysfunctional family on every level, on every level,
it was, but it was great fun to do. I
have to say, there's.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't think I have ever laughed that hard watching it.
I mean, I've had some great laughs from the show,
but that scene just broke me.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It was it was such a gift, such a gift.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Oh, I'm glad to hear it.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm just just fantastic.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And was it weren't the grandparents involved in that seen somewhat? Well?
The father the father right right.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Father, George Coe was The other was Greg Henry's father,
I think somehow, unless he was supposed to be my
I'm not certain, but I think he was a Huntsburger,
so I have a feeling so he Yeah, he was
trying to demand how the life was going to be
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run and how this kid was going to go through
life and where he was supposed to land, and yeah,
kid wasn't having it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Do you remember what a season that was.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think it was in the fifth season, fifth season,
I think the fifth season, and then I came back
and did another episode in the sixth season, I think,
which was the nineteen forties. You know, Andrew's sisters kind
of style advance kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
After we get off here, I'm going to go find it.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, Emily told me off in such a such a way.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
She was amazing. I have to say, the one thing
I have to say about this show is the rapidity
with which everybody is talking, just at the speed of light.
And it's like speed reading when you're you know, you're
learning your lines and you have to do it really
fast and then you can let all the pieces lay
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in and where where the feelings land and that sort
of thing. There's no time for that.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That all happens, There's no time to be there.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
And I was like, wow, this is amazing and that
and Kelly Bishop was extraordinary. I was just dumbfounded just
staring at her because I had never heard anybody talk
that fast and get it all straight. It was amazing.
It was a great experience for me as an actor.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I say, as well, that was something all right.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Kirk and his cat Kirk.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Ah, Yeah, yes. And I have to say I relate
to this because I once had two cats. But my
first cat was a biter and I always say she
bit everybody she ever met. Everybody hated my cat except me,
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and yeah, she'd get if somebody came to visit she'd
get in their suitcase and wouldn't get out, and they
couldn't pack their clothes, or they couldn't get their clothes.
I mean, it was real. I finally gave up apologizing.
I finally just said that, yeah she does that, Yeah
she does. I just gave up. So when he was
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sleeping in the tree at the end of the whole thing,
I really understood kind of, you know, that's what she does.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Funny and Laurel I runs into Dean at doses and
she tells Dean that he was the best boyfriend, best first.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Boyfriend, first boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yes, that's that's pretty important. He's I think he set
a pretty high bar for first boyfriends. I mean he
as I've as I've opined prior to this. You know,
he was acting well beyond his years within a relationship, right,
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and she just was not ready for that level. I mean,
he was committed and he was just being a great guy.
He started out with such mystery and such power and
such a lore and then they just sort of, you know,
he just evolved into this sort of simpering mess. But
I'll tell you, you know, he he was kind of ready.
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I think this was the kind of guy who understood
her value and understood maybe not on the deepest levels.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Of who she really is.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Maybe Jess and Logan had a little better idea of
who she truly was and what she really needed. But
I mean, he loved her. I don't know, I don't
know if he could define exactly why passed a certain point,
but he loved her, and he was I think he
was the guy that was going to propose to her,
and you know, it was going to be a high
school like after high school, let's get married.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Or romance for life kind.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Of absolutely for him. I think it was absolutely that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah. And then when Laurel I says to her, you're
going to have a hundreds of guys you're going to
be in love with, it's like hundreds. I mean, that says, yeah,
that's a lot to think that way. But I can imagine,
you know, I personally, you know, remembered my dates in
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high school. I can't imagine being married to them at
this point. So when people do fall in love with
their first one and they do get well, first of all,
my sister, my older sister, her high school boyfriend found
her fifty years later and they're together. Those things can happen.
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That's the sort of thing, you know, that could come
back in a storyline where they do meet up again.
You know, it's something that's really when people do meet
at a young age. I think that that it does
set the tone for who you are. And like, I
love what you just said that he saw her value
and what she was and who she would be. And
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I think that's a beautiful thing. And if a man
could recognize that in a woman, that's a man with value.
That's somebody to recognize and to appreciate.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
All right, clothes scenes, Lorele and Roy are headed for
Luke's for coffee, and Rory takes this opportunity to kiss
Jess passionately in public in front of Luke's. Not that
anybody was really around at that hour, but you know,
Thanksgiving night, but you know, she went for it. And
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then Dean see's Rory and just kiss And I really
like this scene. I love how this ends, and I'm
really glad that they gave they gave Dean this moment
with Jess, because boy, it was a long time coming.
The whole time, I'm thinking, man, this needs to be
a fight. It's like these guys need to just start
(24:42):
throwing hands here. I mean, enough isn't enough, and Dean's
had enough and it's time to you know, let's just go.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
It was go time. But it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
No, he walked away. It was kind of.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Grown up, very much, so, very much in keeping with
the with the Dean theme.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Very grown up and walking away from that moment and
because yeah you can't they can get into it, which
would be funny or maybe not funny. I mean, I'm
just thinking of moments where you've seen scenes where boys
are fighting over a girl, and Bridget Jones comes to mind,
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where the two men are trying to fight in the
street to you know, Hugh Grant and Callin Firth and
they just it just it becomes so funny because they're
they're not good at it, and it's really because they
both love the same girl. Not about being knock them out.
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It's about the fact that they both love this girl
and they're trying to show it in their way. And
I so but I do think it was very adult
of him to walk away, just say yeah, catch it later.
There's a little little bit in her little thread of though,
yeah you just wait, you know, I'm not gone, you.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Know, right.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well, this is the beginning of Jess and Rory. And
here's my least favorite question, but I must ask it.
Are you team Logan, Jess or team Dean.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh? Well, I have to be Logan, even though I
approve of her, But I am team Logan.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Bolly tell me, well, sure.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah tv son because he's my boy, he's your boy.
And once she gets to the point where she's really
you know, matured herself, I think that she can appreciate
a lot of what he's got in terms of even
though she feels that he because I watched a few
episodes beyond this as well, where he he's not loyal.
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She felt he was disloyal. She took him back. I
believed him. That's a mother's love. I believed him when
he said he you know, he didn't. He didn't. He
wasn't messing around really, but that's how parents seem to
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forgive their children for their errors and mistakes. And so, yeah,
my team Logan, I just have to be Yeah, he's
my boy.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I love those two together, I really did. I love
the potential of it. Yes, I mean it's almost like
they share the same DNA.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Well, they both had were intellectuals.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And I think that's what people don't give credit enough
credit to Logan for He was deeply intellectual. He was
a very very sharp guy.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yes, and I think that she is certainly.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Likes like, so smart that he didn't even have to
try very hard in school.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yes, but that makes him look like he didn't try correct. Yes. So,
but I think that that you when a girl meets
her match in that in that area, that's that's a
that's a beautiful thing. They can they can share, you know, ideologies.
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I mean, that's really important. And I think too is
that even though she and laurrel I have this you know,
humble home and everything, compared to what her parents have
and what Logan's parents have. I think that at the
bottom line of humanity is we're all people and it
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doesn't matter where you come from. You can make yourself
anything you want to be. And I'm not saying that
as I dream to be this or I dream to
be that. I'm saying that if you work hard enough,
you can be anything you want to be. I come
from very humble the beginnings. I come from a tiny,
tiny town, and I would never have imagined that I
(29:03):
become an actress or whatever. But I think that anybody
can do anything they want to do, not just because
they dream. They have to work hard for it. It's
like when you know how many people tell you or
ask you all the time, I want to get in
the movie business. I want to be an actor. I
want to do it, And I always have to say
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to them because they ask me, well, how much have
you studied? Do you what have you done? Why do
you want to be an actor? Well, I want to
be famous. I want this, And I'm always that's the
wrong answer. You have to understand nothing is overnight. Maybe
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it is once in a while, but even people that
are teenage singers, they're working hard as teenagers.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And they're talented as hell and working hard.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
And working hard, and so we all have to work
hard to get where we're going. And I think that's
the common thread with both Rory and Logan, is that
they both are intellectual, but they it might seem like
it comes easy to both of them, but they're both
they work hard. Yeah, And I like that she's got
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a job and he's got a job. I like that
they're working young people. I like seeing that. I like
seeing that the screen. I like that example for our
young generation. They need to see people.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Go to work.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
They have to be there on time, they have to
finish the day out, they have to go through live.
That's the way to succeed.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know. My love for my love for Logan is returning.
I have been I've been on a little press kick
about how I think all three of them are bums
and she can find something better.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
But I gotta tell you, m h, I think Logan
was the one.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
He might have been the one.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I think he might have been the one.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's the one I thought had the most possibilities to
lead an explosively joyful and successful life. For the two
of them, I think they both brought out the best
in each other. And yeah, I know she had to
wade through mitchemisms and but still, I mean, you know,
(31:30):
even if there was no contact with the Huntsburgers, the
two of them still could have been gloriously happy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I really liked those two together. Yeah, it really really did.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And I can see what the other boys were. I
can see that the bad boy I like it. You know,
I used to like a bad boy. Everybody, every girl
likes a little bit naughty. So the bad Boy and
then the Solid Boy. I can I can see how
it's so beautifully written, the way this was, this all
(32:03):
came together, and the fact that it barked over all
of these years and it took all those years to
get to where that was with Logan, I just I'm
very impressed. I'm very pleased to have been a part
of something that was this well written, this well performed,
(32:23):
this well loved, should I say, by the audience and
by everybody, and for me, I was just very very
happy to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
You think Shira would finally accept Rory as her daughter
in law if that turns out to be the case.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Oh, I think she fight it all the way, but
she's going to have to accept the thing or two.
There's certain things and see there's a good conflict. There's
a way.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
To make story of that's all set up. That's the thing.
It's really set up.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Beautifully, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I like that, Yeah, continue the storytelling in that regard.
It's set up beautiful.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Oh gorgeous. Yeah, because quite frankly, shar would yeah, and
then love that baby.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Oh Sherery would have a cow.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Oh yeah, she would have a cow. All right, so
you portrayed Shira for for just two episodes, right, Yeah,
and you know something about legacy from doing almost.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Seven hundred episodes of Days of Our Lives as Anna
Demara and over forty episodes of Dana Carrington on Dynasty.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, I did that for a while too. Yes.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
What was it like to play the Days of your
Days of Your Lives character for forty years?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Forty three?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Forty three?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, who's counting?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I was only five five years old. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Tears in your eyes about to become the Master's Champion.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I have to say that too. Has been an honor
to do this all these years. I did it in
the mid eighties, I was I started out there and
I did it for four years, and then I went
off and did Dynasty and other bunch of other stuff,
and then they invited me back to come back in
like the two thousand and seven to ten or somewhere
(34:17):
in there, and then I came back again and seventeen
and I'm still there. I'm working there in a in
a month, I've got another show to do, so I'm
still popping in once in a while. So it's a
it has been because my character, she's a bit naughty,
(34:37):
but she's it's like she she deserves life and she
deserves every so people kind of like to they love
to hate her lover kind of thing. Whereas Shira has
a Shira Hansberger has a really hard edge. My character
(34:59):
on days as a really soft edge in terms of
but she's greedy and very fun and she deserves it all.
And so for me that has been a great joy
because I can make people laugh a little bit, and
that's where that comes from. With Dynasty, it was very serious,
(35:22):
very serious and more like a soft kitten character, but
very serious as a as a as a show. Overall,
there was no humor, whereas I was looking for the
joke and every other line. I like Shira. I love
(35:43):
this kind of that you get to. I don't care
if you're laughing at me. I don't care if you're
laughing with me, as long as you're laughing. I like
to have a little something. So that's what I love
that dinner table scene.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm like that too. I don't think. I don't think
this particular art form can survive without it. No, it
doesn't matter what genre, how dark you want it, there's got.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
To be some humor. There has to be. It just
grounds everything, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, just like absolutely and all of it. And I've
watched a few of your scenes and and and I
see where all of that comes in with you as well,
and your banter with Loralai and your banter with everybody.
It's all there, and I know it starts to thank
(36:31):
God for the writing and for the way it's produced,
but it's also you bring it to life. And that's.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I like to laugh.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I like to have joy. I liked it, and I'd
like to get the intellectualism of what the scene is about.
For me, great fun.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, the show provided plenty of laughs. Each episode is
just like a laugh right anyway, Yeah, joy to talk
to you. We'll see you on the eighteenth.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And thank you so much for giving us a little
bit of your day. I'm just such a memorable, memorable
portrayal of Logan Huntsburger's mom. Just a real, real master
class in acting. And that's gonna do it from us.
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Thanks everybody. Remember, best fans on the planet. Keep the
cards and letters coming, we really appreciate them. And remember
where you lead, we will follow.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
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Speaker 1 (38:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I amil in Podcast, one of
Love Productions iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast. We are at season three,
episode nine, and we have a very special guest. By
the way, the episode is entitled A deep Fried Korean Thanksgiving.
We're going to go through this episode with the one
(00:43):
and only Leanne Hunley, who is an absolute force to
be reckoned with. Well, I'm Gilmore girls as Logan's mom
and Mitcham's wife. Welcome Shira Huntsberger herself. There she is.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
How you doing, Lian, I'm well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
To see all right, Before we get in this episode,
we want to share something here Leanne, don't we that
you right? Yeah, We'll be joining us for holidays made
here for the live podcast December eighteenth from Warner Brothers Studios.
Are you excited to visit stars Hollow?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I am? I am. Do you know I never ever
got in the street, so I filmed in the Dohina
mansion at one point, and I've been the studio on stage,
but yes, I'd be happy to be on the street.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, we're excited to have you and prepare yourself. It's
a it's.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
A raucous crowd.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's really something.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's ready for the holidays. I think it's fine.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's five thousand screaming fans. They're pumped. All right, Let's
let's go through the synopsis.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
LORELEI shocked to learn that Rory has applied to Yale,
and they have a memorable Thanksgiving and they end up
forcing down four celebratory meals, including a formal dinner party
with Richard and Emily and Oh What a Doozy That
was directed by Kenny Ortega, written by the incomparable Dan Palladino.
(02:17):
So Laurel is pretty much avoiding and has been avoiding
Emily's calls and hasn't attended two Friday night dinners in
a row, and Emily drops in at the end tells
Laurel that she expects her and Rory at Thanksgiving. Leanne,
how was your Thanksgiving? Let's talk about your Thanksgiving? Do
the prepping at all?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Life.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I usually I'm from Washington State, so I usually go home.
This year, I stayed here. I have relatives here, and
I went to their house and I take something every
year to something, I bring something, but I have done
the double duty Thanksgiving dinner before myself, so I sort
of appreciated that they were trying to do four in
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one day. I've only done two in one day.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Very ambitious, very ambitious.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So I thought it was very amusing to see them
try to eat that much and keep it all down.
It was really great.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. But as Laurlized states in the beginning, this
is what they were born to do, this is what
they're built for. Uh, well, I'm they going to first
They're going to missus Kim's and they have to Dave
Rigoalski's there hired as a Christian guitar player so that
they can lay the groundwork of Lane dating him. So funny, right,
(03:34):
what a great story.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Very sweet little story. I love the moment when she
goes running out to try to find him and he's
right there, and it was just a sweet, little, romantic
little moment. I thought that, Yeah, I remember those days.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, as do why all right? Then they hid the
Suki's and Jackson is deep frying a turkey. Wow have
you ever deep fried? You?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Never? I've never tried it.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I've eaten it. I've had times at my family where
they've done it. Every They do like five different kinds
of turkey, one of which was deep fried, and then
we taste test everything. Obviously, I come from a very
large family, and it was it was very juicy. I
was kind of surprised myself. Oh yeah, yeah, But I
(04:24):
can see where it would put off a really good chef.
It would hurt their heart that you would just cook
it that fast when you're supposed to do twenty minutes
pound and you're supposed to take your time with it.
So and I remember my first turkey that I ever cooked,
when I was first married, and I called my mother
to say, how do I cook this turkey? And she said,
(04:47):
how big is it? I told her twenty pounds. She said,
get it in the oven. I said, what do I
do to it? I don't care what you do to it.
Just get it in the oven. It has to start
cooking now. So the deep fried turkey is kind of
a pretty good idea.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How long has that take to deep rive turkey?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
De fight turkey? It only takes like forty five minutes an.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Hour forty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Okay, I think they mentioned that in the episode, but
I could be completely wrong. Don't call I am not
a chef. Obviously, get it in the oven.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
All right, So they do, they go through that rigamarole.
Then they had the Lukes where they eat their meal
with Jess and Rory and Jeff. Jess have a little kiss,
and you know, Rory's having a hard time with the
PDA and with Jess because she feels guilty about Deans. So, yeah,
hilarious moments with Sally Struthers. You've got to give it
(05:41):
a little effort next time, you know, you know, you
never lose with Sally. I mean, when Sally shows up,
you're having a good time.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It looks like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And then they finally had to the last stop Emily
and Richards, which I think is one of the classic
uh family scenes. But I'll tell you, I don't think
it's the classic family scene. And I want to talk
and come back to that. Leanne. I'm glad you're here
because we're going to talk about that what I consider
to be the finest moment of any family scene in
(06:14):
any show I've ever seen. And they all sit down
at the table after they get through their kind of
awkward dining sorry, living room conversation and Laura continuing to
make jokes and annoying her parents, and then they sit
(06:34):
down in rory Reville. She's applied to Yale Jennifer Aniston's father.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes, John, who I interject real quickly because I worked
with him a lot on my other show, on Days
of Our Lives. He was a protagonist on that show,
so I was real happy to see him when I
watched this episode. It was like such a treat for
me to see him.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He's got a tremendous presence, doesn't he Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
He truly does. And he was just he was such
a gentleman and a gentle man. He was such a
lovely man. Lovely man. Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now this is where Nori Rory announces that she, unbeknownst
to her mother, applied to backups Yale being one of them,
Princeton another. And this, you know, this really spins laurel
eye out. What do you think of this scene? I mean,
it's a great scene. And do you think the conflict
(07:42):
was a little forced? Do you think Laurelized reaction.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Is over the top? How do you feel about this?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean it makes for great drama, It makes.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
For great drama, and I, you know, I can understand that,
to tell you the truth, because that's what shows, that's
what makes characters work, is a little something conflicting, and
everybody has to have their opinion about it. But I
did wonder what was her her reason for not wanting Yale,
(08:13):
because if you're going to consider Princeton and Harvard, I
didn't understand the Yale thing. So I guess it's because
I don't know the original story with her father and
her and where that really comes from. But I'm all
for a little conflict because, like I said, that's what
makes a scene juicy. That's what an actor likes to do.
(08:34):
That's what I like to do. I like to grab
onto something and that's a through line to get through
to the next thought, up to the arc where you
have to be, you know, in terms of where you're
going to land. And so for me, I bought it.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I bought it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I didn't. You know. One thing that is problematic is
that when you do know somebody in the scene, it
takes you out of the scene. And I'm thinking, okay,
well look out, Grady, and I'm thinking of him as
a friend as opposed to within the setting of the scene.
But that still doesn't matter. I mean, I just didn't
(09:13):
really understand the reason why. But maybe that's explained before,
and maybe it's explained later in the series. I just
don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Mm hmm, yeah, I think to get you up to
speed a little bit, because I wasn't familiar either until
I started watching the show. As a result of doing
this podcast, I had to watch the show. Yeah, Laura
I was destined for Yale, and so they are. You know,
I think a Laurel I feels erased by her mother
(09:42):
and father and they're pinning all their hopes and dreams
on their granddaughter to fulfill the promise that Laurel I
once held and failed in their eyes, and the family embarrassment,
the black sheep, the whole thing, the only child who
did not excel according to their standards, but according to
(10:02):
her own she's she's really made a very nice life
for herself and her daughter, which I agree with. But
so that's the trigger.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Okay, Well, then that makes more sense if I knew
that one a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, they the previous episode, they took it. They took
it a trip to Yale, impromptu trip to Yale. It
was just grandfather and granddaughter, and then Emily showed up,
and then Laura I showed up. She found out about it,
and Richard had had organized the Dean of Admissions to
sit down with Rory and have a little chat, and Laura.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I got upset about that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay for dad manipulating the situation, and she was dead
set on Harvard and butt out, it's my life, it's
my daughter.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I make the decisions. You didn't consult with me. So
there you go.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I see, God makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, so she blew up at dinner. Yeah, all right,
back Dave. Dave leaves missus Kim's. He forgets his Bible,
Sweet missus Kim opens it up. Lane wants to run
it out to him. It's all obviously a setup, and
(11:16):
opens the Bible and says, this belongs to God, but
I'm borrowing it for the time being.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
David Galski or something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, and that's when she runs out and they have
the first kiss. Nice storyline. I really enjoy particularly this
actor and these two together.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It was very sweet. And when I first started watching
the episode, I didn't see that coming. I didn't see
them together. But I have to say they really it
really connected. It was really heartfelt. It was a sweet
little moment. That is what I said. I love that
little moment when she runs right out and runs right
(12:00):
into him, because there's an excitement when you're a young
girl and you're really kind of taken by somebody for
the first time. And I saw all of that in
those moments. And he seemed like a nice guy too.
He didn't seem like you wanted to take advantage of her.
He seemed like a stand up guy. So I really
(12:23):
appreciated that as an audience and as a woman and
once a young girl once a long time ago. I
really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, all right, now we're back at Suki's. Suki is
three Sheets to the Wind and one of the most
hilarious drunken ma is on record. I mean, what a talent, right,
what is just a glorious performance from Melissa. Absolutely, and
(12:55):
they're sort of checking in on her. She's just giving
in and it's don and the whole She's just lost
total control, the whole situation. Anyway, Shira Hunsberger would fit
in with Emily and Richard's Thanksgiving celebrations. But which one
would you want to attend of the four that Laurel
(13:17):
I and Rory attended.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well, I'm torn between Emily and Richard's dinner. I like
tablecloths and silverware, but I also like the cafe. I
have to say, I like your cafe. I'm a old school,
Like I said, I'm homegrown an old school and I
like a comfortable and casual dinner as well. But I
(13:44):
also enjoy a moment to dress up. So I would
like both of those, I think, And like I said,
I've kind of done that before where I've done both
of those in one day. So for me, it was
a sweet moment. Sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So the dynamic with the Gilmours and the Huntsburgers is
pretty similar, you know, wanting what's best for your child
or grandchild even though they can't see it. Yes, I'm
very aligned, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, And I see that. Although I know from what
I hear, the audience doesn't like my Shira very much
because she was so mean to Rory, and I can
truly appreciate that as well, because basically, you know, every
(14:33):
girl wants to meet her prince charming, and if he
happens to be a prince, okay, that's great. But just
because she's not a princess, it's a hard place to be.
And Shira is since she came It wasn't told until
the second episode that I did where she came from
(14:56):
suspect beginnings herself. So she's protecting that line at all
costs in terms of her, you know, lording over anybody
else and thinking that she's part of that club. And
so some of that came clear when I did the
second episode myself. I actually appreciated knowing that myself. But
(15:18):
she had very lowly beginnings. But yeah, she gets so
she thinks she belongs in that world, in the world
of Richard and Emily. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I must say that the scene, the scene of the Huntsburgers,
when the entire thing just comes on glued and we
the level of dysfunction of that family.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Is shown at the dinner table.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
At the dinner table and then you go off and
sit somewhere in a chair and have a drink and
we're making comments. You know, it was like it was
like Who's afraid of Virginia Wolf? It was like Edward
Albie level absurdity and dysfunction. It was, Yeah, my favorite
family dinner scene I've maybe ever seen. It was hysterically funny,
(16:16):
oh good, and it showed just how broken that family was. Yes,
what do you remember about that thing?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, what I do remember was we were filming in
the Dooheini Mansion, which was this beautiful old place and
I think it's run by nuns. And I remember the
morning I got there. They had rules, The nuns had rules.
We were not allowed. Nobody was allowed to smoke on
(16:46):
on the property. Nobody was allowed to swear on the property.
That's crewe, that's cast, that's everybody. Everybody got this piece
of paper that said no swearing, no smoking, no nothing.
And then my character was supposed to go behind the
curtains of these drapes that were these old that have
been there one hundred years and smoke. So I was.
(17:08):
I was actually back there smoking and handing off a
cigarette to a prop guy behind me behind the curtains
so that I could pop back out and speak to
the family and act like I wasn't smoking behind the curtains.
I felt very guilty. I was the only one sanctioned
to smoke on the property. But it was like, yeah,
(17:32):
like a psychologically dysfunctional family on every level, on every level,
it was, but it was great fun to do. I
have to say, there's.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't think I have ever laughed that hard watching it.
I mean, I've had some great laughs from the show,
but that scene just broke me.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It was it was such a gift, such a gift.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Oh, I'm glad to hear it.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm just just fantastic.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And was it weren't the grandparents involved in that seen somewhat? Well?
The father the father right right.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Father, George Coe was The other was Greg Henry's father,
I think somehow, unless he was supposed to be my
I'm not certain, but I think he was a Huntsburger,
so I have a feeling so he Yeah, he was
trying to demand how the life was going to be
(18:24):
run and how this kid was going to go through
life and where he was supposed to land, and yeah,
kid wasn't having it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Do you remember what a season that was.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think it was in the fifth season, fifth season,
I think the fifth season, and then I came back
and did another episode in the sixth season, I think,
which was the nineteen forties. You know, Andrew's sisters kind
of style advance kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
After we get off here, I'm going to go find it.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, Emily told me off in such a such a way.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
She was amazing. I have to say, the one thing
I have to say about this show is the rapidity
with which everybody is talking, just at the speed of light.
And it's like speed reading when you're you know, you're
learning your lines and you have to do it really
fast and then you can let all the pieces lay
(19:32):
in and where where the feelings land and that sort
of thing. There's no time for that.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That all happens, There's no time to be there.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
And I was like, wow, this is amazing and that
and Kelly Bishop was extraordinary. I was just dumbfounded just
staring at her because I had never heard anybody talk
that fast and get it all straight. It was amazing.
It was a great experience for me as an actor.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I say, as well, that was something all right.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Kirk and his cat Kirk.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Ah, Yeah, yes. And I have to say I relate
to this because I once had two cats. But my
first cat was a biter and I always say she
bit everybody she ever met. Everybody hated my cat except me,
(20:29):
and yeah, she'd get if somebody came to visit she'd
get in their suitcase and wouldn't get out, and they
couldn't pack their clothes, or they couldn't get their clothes.
I mean, it was real. I finally gave up apologizing.
I finally just said that, yeah she does that, Yeah
she does. I just gave up. So when he was
(20:51):
sleeping in the tree at the end of the whole thing,
I really understood kind of, you know, that's what she does.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Funny and Laurel I runs into Dean at doses and
she tells Dean that he was the best boyfriend, best first.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Boyfriend, first boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yes, that's that's pretty important. He's I think he set
a pretty high bar for first boyfriends. I mean he
as I've as I've opined prior to this. You know,
he was acting well beyond his years within a relationship, right,
(21:32):
and she just was not ready for that level. I mean,
he was committed and he was just being a great guy.
He started out with such mystery and such power and
such a lore and then they just sort of, you know,
he just evolved into this sort of simpering mess. But
I'll tell you, you know, he he was kind of ready.
(21:55):
I think this was the kind of guy who understood
her value and understood maybe not on the deepest levels.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Of who she really is.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Maybe Jess and Logan had a little better idea of
who she truly was and what she really needed. But
I mean, he loved her. I don't know, I don't
know if he could define exactly why passed a certain point,
but he loved her, and he was I think he
was the guy that was going to propose to her,
and you know, it was going to be a high
school like after high school, let's get married.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Or romance for life kind.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Of absolutely for him. I think it was absolutely that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah. And then when Laurel I says to her, you're
going to have a hundreds of guys you're going to
be in love with, it's like hundreds. I mean, that says, yeah,
that's a lot to think that way. But I can imagine,
you know, I personally, you know, remembered my dates in
(22:53):
high school. I can't imagine being married to them at
this point. So when people do fall in love with
their first one and they do get well, first of all,
my sister, my older sister, her high school boyfriend found
her fifty years later and they're together. Those things can happen.
(23:15):
That's the sort of thing, you know, that could come
back in a storyline where they do meet up again.
You know, it's something that's really when people do meet
at a young age. I think that that it does
set the tone for who you are. And like, I
love what you just said that he saw her value
and what she was and who she would be. And
(23:37):
I think that's a beautiful thing. And if a man
could recognize that in a woman, that's a man with value.
That's somebody to recognize and to appreciate.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
All right, clothes scenes, Lorele and Roy are headed for
Luke's for coffee, and Rory takes this opportunity to kiss
Jess passionately in public in front of Luke's. Not that
anybody was really around at that hour, but you know,
Thanksgiving night, but you know, she went for it. And
(24:22):
then Dean see's Rory and just kiss And I really
like this scene. I love how this ends, and I'm
really glad that they gave they gave Dean this moment
with Jess, because boy, it was a long time coming.
The whole time, I'm thinking, man, this needs to be
a fight. It's like these guys need to just start
(24:42):
throwing hands here. I mean, enough isn't enough, and Dean's
had enough and it's time to you know, let's just go.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
It was go time. But it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
No, he walked away. It was kind of.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Grown up, very much, so, very much in keeping with
the with the Dean theme.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Very grown up and walking away from that moment and
because yeah you can't they can get into it, which
would be funny or maybe not funny. I mean, I'm
just thinking of moments where you've seen scenes where boys
are fighting over a girl, and Bridget Jones comes to mind,
(25:26):
where the two men are trying to fight in the
street to you know, Hugh Grant and Callin Firth and
they just it just it becomes so funny because they're
they're not good at it, and it's really because they
both love the same girl. Not about being knock them out.
(25:46):
It's about the fact that they both love this girl
and they're trying to show it in their way. And
I so but I do think it was very adult
of him to walk away, just say yeah, catch it later.
There's a little little bit in her little thread of though,
yeah you just wait, you know, I'm not gone, you.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Know, right.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well, this is the beginning of Jess and Rory. And
here's my least favorite question, but I must ask it.
Are you team Logan, Jess or team Dean.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh? Well, I have to be Logan, even though I
approve of her, But I am team Logan.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Bolly tell me, well, sure.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah tv son because he's my boy, he's your boy.
And once she gets to the point where she's really
you know, matured herself, I think that she can appreciate
a lot of what he's got in terms of even
though she feels that he because I watched a few
episodes beyond this as well, where he he's not loyal.
(26:51):
She felt he was disloyal. She took him back. I
believed him. That's a mother's love. I believed him when
he said he you know, he didn't. He didn't. He
wasn't messing around really, but that's how parents seem to
(27:12):
forgive their children for their errors and mistakes. And so, yeah,
my team Logan, I just have to be Yeah, he's
my boy.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I love those two together, I really did. I love
the potential of it. Yes, I mean it's almost like
they share the same DNA.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Well, they both had were intellectuals.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And I think that's what people don't give credit enough
credit to Logan for He was deeply intellectual. He was
a very very sharp guy.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yes, and I think that she is certainly.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Likes like, so smart that he didn't even have to
try very hard in school.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yes, but that makes him look like he didn't try correct. Yes. So,
but I think that that you when a girl meets
her match in that in that area, that's that's a
that's a beautiful thing. They can they can share, you know, ideologies.
(28:19):
I mean, that's really important. And I think too is
that even though she and laurrel I have this you know,
humble home and everything, compared to what her parents have
and what Logan's parents have. I think that at the
bottom line of humanity is we're all people and it
(28:40):
doesn't matter where you come from. You can make yourself
anything you want to be. And I'm not saying that
as I dream to be this or I dream to
be that. I'm saying that if you work hard enough,
you can be anything you want to be. I come
from very humble the beginnings. I come from a tiny,
tiny town, and I would never have imagined that I
(29:03):
become an actress or whatever. But I think that anybody
can do anything they want to do, not just because
they dream. They have to work hard for it. It's
like when you know how many people tell you or
ask you all the time, I want to get in
the movie business. I want to be an actor. I
want to do it, And I always have to say
(29:25):
to them because they ask me, well, how much have
you studied? Do you what have you done? Why do
you want to be an actor? Well, I want to
be famous. I want this, And I'm always that's the
wrong answer. You have to understand nothing is overnight. Maybe
(29:46):
it is once in a while, but even people that
are teenage singers, they're working hard as teenagers.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And they're talented as hell and working hard.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
And working hard, and so we all have to work
hard to get where we're going. And I think that's
the common thread with both Rory and Logan, is that
they both are intellectual, but they it might seem like
it comes easy to both of them, but they're both
they work hard. Yeah, And I like that she's got
(30:19):
a job and he's got a job. I like that
they're working young people. I like seeing that. I like
seeing that the screen. I like that example for our
young generation. They need to see people.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Go to work.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
They have to be there on time, they have to
finish the day out, they have to go through live.
That's the way to succeed.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know. My love for my love for Logan is returning.
I have been I've been on a little press kick
about how I think all three of them are bums
and she can find something better.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
But I gotta tell you, m h, I think Logan
was the one.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
He might have been the one.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I think he might have been the one.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's the one I thought had the most possibilities to
lead an explosively joyful and successful life. For the two
of them, I think they both brought out the best
in each other. And yeah, I know she had to
wade through mitchemisms and but still, I mean, you know,
(31:30):
even if there was no contact with the Huntsburgers, the
two of them still could have been gloriously happy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I really liked those two together. Yeah, it really really did.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And I can see what the other boys were. I
can see that the bad boy I like it. You know,
I used to like a bad boy. Everybody, every girl
likes a little bit naughty. So the bad Boy and
then the Solid Boy. I can I can see how
it's so beautifully written, the way this was, this all
(32:03):
came together, and the fact that it barked over all
of these years and it took all those years to
get to where that was with Logan, I just I'm
very impressed. I'm very pleased to have been a part
of something that was this well written, this well performed,
(32:23):
this well loved, should I say, by the audience and
by everybody, and for me, I was just very very
happy to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
You think Shira would finally accept Rory as her daughter
in law if that turns out to be the case.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Oh, I think she fight it all the way, but
she's going to have to accept the thing or two.
There's certain things and see there's a good conflict. There's
a way.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
To make story of that's all set up. That's the thing.
It's really set up.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Beautifully, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I like that, Yeah, continue the storytelling in that regard.
It's set up beautiful.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Oh gorgeous. Yeah, because quite frankly, shar would yeah, and
then love that baby.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Oh Sherery would have a cow.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Oh yeah, she would have a cow. All right, so
you portrayed Shira for for just two episodes, right, Yeah,
and you know something about legacy from doing almost.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Seven hundred episodes of Days of Our Lives as Anna
Demara and over forty episodes of Dana Carrington on Dynasty.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, I did that for a while too. Yes.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
What was it like to play the Days of your
Days of Your Lives character for forty years?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Forty three?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Forty three?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, who's counting?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I was only five five years old. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Tears in your eyes about to become the Master's Champion.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I have to say that too. Has been an honor
to do this all these years. I did it in
the mid eighties, I was I started out there and
I did it for four years, and then I went
off and did Dynasty and other bunch of other stuff,
and then they invited me back to come back in
like the two thousand and seven to ten or somewhere
(34:17):
in there, and then I came back again and seventeen
and I'm still there. I'm working there in a in
a month, I've got another show to do, so I'm
still popping in once in a while. So it's a
it has been because my character, she's a bit naughty,
(34:37):
but she's it's like she she deserves life and she
deserves every so people kind of like to they love
to hate her lover kind of thing. Whereas Shira has
a Shira Hansberger has a really hard edge. My character
(34:59):
on days as a really soft edge in terms of
but she's greedy and very fun and she deserves it all.
And so for me that has been a great joy
because I can make people laugh a little bit, and
that's where that comes from. With Dynasty, it was very serious,
(35:22):
very serious and more like a soft kitten character, but
very serious as a as a as a show. Overall,
there was no humor, whereas I was looking for the
joke and every other line. I like Shira. I love
(35:43):
this kind of that you get to. I don't care
if you're laughing at me. I don't care if you're
laughing with me, as long as you're laughing. I like
to have a little something. So that's what I love
that dinner table scene.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm like that too. I don't think. I don't think
this particular art form can survive without it. No, it
doesn't matter what genre, how dark you want it, there's got.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
To be some humor. There has to be. It just
grounds everything, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, just like absolutely and all of it. And I've
watched a few of your scenes and and and I
see where all of that comes in with you as well,
and your banter with Loralai and your banter with everybody.
It's all there, and I know it starts to thank
(36:31):
God for the writing and for the way it's produced,
but it's also you bring it to life. And that's.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I like to laugh.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I like to have joy. I liked it, and I'd
like to get the intellectualism of what the scene is about.
For me, great fun.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, the show provided plenty of laughs. Each episode is
just like a laugh right anyway, Yeah, joy to talk
to you. We'll see you on the eighteenth.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And thank you so much for giving us a little
bit of your day. I'm just such a memorable, memorable
portrayal of Logan Huntsburger's mom. Just a real, real master
class in acting. And that's gonna do it from us.
(37:25):
Thanks everybody. Remember, best fans on the planet. Keep the
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where you lead, we will follow.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Stay safe everyone, Hey, everybody, don't forget.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
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