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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all in Again. Oh let's just you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi am all in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one
eleven productions, iHeartRadio, I Heeart Media, I Heart Podcasts, Season one,
Episode five, Cinnamon's Wake. Air date November two, two thousand.
I am joined by part of the Intrepid Crew, the
one and only Susanne French, who has her own feature
(00:43):
on I Am All In Again and is having a
great time with Terrist Sude. Suzanne. Hello, tell us a
little bit about that. How's it going? How are you
enjoying it?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Hey, Scott, it's good to see you again. I haven't
seen you in forever since we're not.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, I miss the old Crow.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But the town meeting is going great. Tara and I
are having a good time just having a conversation about
some of the deeper details of the episode. We don't
have to really dig into the plot that much, so
we can look at all the other action that's going on.
So it's going great. We're having a good time, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Good, Well, the fans seem to be enjoying it, and
that's a plus anyway. So you want to go ahead
and read the synopsis and we'll get into it.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Sure, so you already covered. This is season one, episode five,
Cinnamon's Weak. It aired November two, two thousand. Rory has
an awkward run in with Dean on the bus, leaving
her flustered. Plus, Rory's English teacher boldly asks Lorlai out,
catching her off guard, and Stars Hollow gathers for an
unexpectedly heartfelt funeral for Babette's beloved cats.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh Man, Michael Cadaman directed. Dan Palatino wrote it. You know,
we're waiting. Greg Henry is supposed to be a guest
host today, but he's having Internet issues, So we're gonna
go ahead and plunge forward here. Hopefully he can join
us at some point. So let's start with the Friday
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night dinner and the Nazi joke. Emily socialized with a
Nazi joke.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
This show, this show, episode five, Suzanne. It seems to
be you know, finding its legs right, finding its sea
legs a little bit here, and it's so charming to
watch because we know, now that I've seen it once
and you've seen it a million times, we now know
what it became right, I mean it really did mature
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as the seasons went on, but still, these first five
episodes are so charming. Yeah, they are so innocent and
they are so sweet, and it really and the one
thing that really jumped out at me overall, and then
we'll get into some of these details, is how the
Palladinos love to set up this normal, little bit oddball
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world that is so safe and wonderful and charming and adorable.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yes, it's like a warm hug, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
But they push the envelope on the ethical side, the
Maxi Medina Lorelei Rory. Right. So that's so they make
it a little uncomfortable with Miss Patty, they make it
a little bit uncomfortable with the sexual innuendo and that
kind of a thing, not the normal thing, you know,
that kind of thing. And in other areas like Luke too,
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he's a little too angry at Sukie And it's like
this is but it gives this fantasy town a sense
of of realness that it's real, do you think but interesting?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
It definitely. It's it's like a warm, kind of comforting setting,
but it has an edge. So yeah, so it like
like you're saying, it kind of like takes you to
a to a different place. Yeah, so it's you know,
it's it's just good writing. It's always But.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Isn't it Isn't it wonderful seeing uh the you know,
one of the first couple of Friday Night Dinners and
how the tension is between mother and daughter and and
then poor Rory has to to witness this and be
exposed to this, and then you know, ends up on
Emily's side because you know, Emily's smart, and she's quick,
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and she's clever, and she got Laurel. I right, she got,
she got she shut her out exactly, she used she
used uh, Laurel's own tactics against her and ended up
shutting her down a Friday night dinner. But now we're
seeing the beginnings of this. Uh you know this, this
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this classic Friday Night Dinners and you could you can
make an entire spin off show about and just call
it Friday Night Dinner Dinner with Emily and Richard. Right,
but they discussed there he is. Greg Henry is joining
us ladies and gentlemen, round of applause for the one
and only Greg Henry. Hi, Greg, thanks.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
For yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Susan Suzanna French is joining us here and we're getting
into the first scenes. So did you did you get
a chance to watch the episode? Greg? Oh yeah, absolutely,
tell us your tell us your initial thoughts at these
uh episode five Cinnamon's Wake. You know this, uh, this
new kind of sensational warm show getting its sea legs,
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and here we are at the beginnings of this. You know,
it's it hasn't quite matured yet as a show, but
you can see the DNA is quite quite good.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh yes, spectacular. I mean it's just uh.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
An entirely complete world and it has this wonderful, funny
vision that everybody is in the same everybody's in the
same show.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, which sometimes that's hard to do in shows.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And it's like, uh, it's it's so wonderful and everybody's
just so so good in their parts. I just laughed
out loud, spit take laughed a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, there's always those zingers and very moving. I thought
too that, I mean, how do you how do you
shed a tear in the morning? And Halifax Nova Scotia
over a dead cat, but they managed.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I was hearing you are somewhere, You're in Halifax.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm in Halifax, and I'm sitting up here, like, you know,
is that a tear forming in the in the right
eye and touching?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's very touching.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Uh it's because you know, because for me, it's it's
Sally Struthers, right, it's it's a situation, but it's Sally
Struthers lends it such credibility, and it's it's just she's
such a Yes, she's such she wears her heart on
her sleeve. She's so funny. She throws a line away
like we got copons, you know, it's like that's why
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they had the clams and else pancake. It's just she's
just such a master. Anyway, so we're doing the Friday
night dinner scene and we know what these Friday night
dinners turned into. They turned into these epic affairs that
all the fans look forward to. And Susan helped me out.
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Are they every single episode? Do we see a Friday
night dinner every single episode? Or they skip some? I
think there's.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
There's some episodes where the timeframe we actually get to
Friday night dinners, but there are some that we don't
get one at all. I think I think probably most
episodes have one but not every single one.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Right, right, and again pushing the envelope with using a
Nazi joke to socialize at the at the at the
Friday night dinner. Again, we were talking about putting how
the show pushes the envelope ethically and taste wise, but
just a little bit not not It doesn't stretch it
too far. It always kind of defaults back to this warm,
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odd ball place filled with these wonderful people who It's like,
I'm watching a show right now, and Greg, I don't
know about you, but I'm not the demo for this show.
I was on it, but I'm not. I'm not watching
this show. And it's like I'm watching the show right now.
That's it's pretty wonderful vibe. It's created because the entire
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town showed up at the wake for a dead cat.
Who wouldn't want to live in a town like that, right,
I mean after you get to be a certain age, right.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
She says, our town is so weird, and she says,
thank God, right.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Right, all right, So now we're now we're at the
Lorelei's house and she's a little cranky and she's supposed
to be baking for the Chilton Bake sale, Lane is
busting down.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
In the Gilmore Girls living room before school the time
Bomb by Ransid, we see that iconic shot that they
use in the credit sequence with Lrori's bedroom door opening
and Lane rocking out. We see I Bet and Maury
walking Cinema's an ill. Uh. What do you say? Dyspeptic?
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Cinnamon was dyspeptic? Isn't walking very well? Had some clams
at Al's pancake where all everybody's not feeling good. And
then Rory waits for the bus and Dean spots are
uh and and then sits on the bus behind it.
What did you think of that? Guys? You know, Dean
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was coming off like such the mysterious cool guy right
up to this point and then he just sort of
like jumps on the bus and what do you I
think he was a little was she a little annoyed
or was she playing it like she was she just
sort of froze up because she likes the guy.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
She seemed a little disturbed by it. Yeah, she did, right,
But I thought it was cute, Like I didn't think
it was creepy or anything like that. I mean, you know,
he got on and said hi, and then he got
off the next stop. I didn't. I didn't have a
problem with it, but she seemed a little like, what
are you doing? Like startled by it?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Right right? And at this point we know that this
is this is a show that is establishing these generations.
It's Emily, it's it's Laurel I, it's Rory. This is
where these we're going to inhabit these worlds, and they're
you know, Laurel I is going to inhabit every world
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in the show. Rory's going to inhabit a lot of
the worlds. Emily is going to stay in her own world,
and when she comes into stars Hollow, that's you know,
that's like another planet for her. But we're establishing now
what this whole journey is about, and it's about, you know,
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at this point, girls meeting boys and being asked out
and Greg, I remember the first time around, first go round,
when we three years ago, when we broke down this episode,
I had a big problem with Max Medina and I
had a big problem with Laura Lei actually agreeing to
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date him. What are your initial thoughts about that whole narrative.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, your thoughts might have been colored by the we've
been playing the competition, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
What it is it is an interesting dilemma, you know
in terms of a teacher and and and a student
and uh and.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Then the parents of that student. That's that is interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And I thought that they I thought that they played
it really nicely in terms of they they they dragged
it out and they they made her.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Meeting of it very official. But then.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The discovery during the during during Cinnamon's weight that then
triggers actually being truthful about it and upfront about it
or or not withholding as she said, not withholding information.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I thought it was I thought it was good because
it pointed out that those kind of things are like
they're they're difficult to have, but they there must be
had those conversations and that uh.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And that these this is this is a very loving and.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Smart uh mother daughter and and I thought it played well.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I I like mm hmm second time around. Uh yeah,
I like Max I I you know, I feel him.
How can you blame him? Right? I mean, you've got
a woman like that and he's just gaga for her.
Just wow, she's beautiful, she's smart, she's funny, she's her
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own person. There's a real strength coming out of her.
At the same time, there's this irresistible vulnerability and flashing
those eyes at him, and it's just like, you know,
how you gonna how are you gonna not ask her
out right? And he's he's crossing a line and and
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she's crossing a line. And but such such a great
love affair is made of the same stuff, right, That's
that's got a lot of potential. There a lot of potential.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
One thing I noticed in this rewatch that I haven't
noticed previously is the parallel between Max being so persistent
and she's resisting, resisting, resis and then she finally caves in.
It reminded me of season seven when she's in Paris
with Christopher and he's like, marry me, marry me, marry me.
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She's like, no, no, we can't, blah blah, and then
she at the end she caves in and ends up
Mary and Christopher. So I actually liked it less this
time than on previous watches because I did think Max
was being a little pushy, and I kind of felt
bad for Rory because she's struggling at this school. She
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kind of feels like everybody's against her, and now her
mom is going to date her teacher and she was
completely blindsided by it. I felt a little bad.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
For Rory, but I bought into the max vibe because
it's a guy who I mean, he wanted to marry her.
Did you get that sense like I have found somebody
very very special? And I think maybe that was the
point of of that storyline, is like this is how
special she is. Where this guy goes this nut's over
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her and they're both going to cross these lines, and
you know, Ry's just gonna have to deal with it
because she's going to get it from both sides. She's
going to get it at school and she's going to
get it at home.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, but that's not really fair to her.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It's not. It's not, but it does speak of the
level of attraction between these two. So I'm kind of
down with it now.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, there was definite attraction there, for sure. I just
felt like they could have not acted on it while.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
He is her teacher.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I felt bad for her at the end when when
Laura was putting all of it on Rory and saying, well,
I won't date him if you don't want me to,
Like that wasn't really fair to put that on Rory's
shoulders because what she's supposed to say, like she didn't
want her mom to be unhappy. So I don't know,
I just saw it differently this time around than I
have in the past.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It's almost like they were of like roommates and contemporaries,
and it's like, look, I'm going to date him. I
know you like him, but I'm going to date him first.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
It was almost on that level, and it really blurred
the lines between mother and daughter.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yes, yeah, Laurela, I was definitely not thinking on a
parental level.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Right, Still charming, uh, still still kind of dig Max Medina.
You know, I like it. I know it's ethically strained
and it's it did stress me out, the touching of
the elbow and the whole thing. But he was really
rubbing her arm. Man, he was going for that arm.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
The arm rub. It kind of got to me too.
You're right, I will say it was a little forward.
It was kind of an aggressive choice in that particular setting.
But but he.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Just, man, he wanted to close that deal, and.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He was like he wanted to close it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, he couldn't stop himself. He was just like, I
want you and I want to date you and this
is messed up, and I know it. It's going to
mess up your daughter maybe, But Jane, we're gonna be together.
We're all going to be together.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I love your babe, and let's do this. I don't know,
all right. Then the French group comes into the end
and Michelle hysterically tells them with a French accent, a
very thick French accent, that he's from Texas, and he
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refuses to talk to them.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He never disappoints.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I swear he really does. He really does. Yeah, these
early episodes, he's got some of the best Michelle stuff
there is in the whole library of episodes. And now
we see, you know, larelized wacky world inside that independence end,
and we want to keep going back. I like how
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they just give us little tastes of it, keep us
wanting more. Shows very good at doing that. All right,
Let's go to the bake sale, Susanne, and why don't
you take over the section and take us through the
bake sale?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Okay, So I liked the bake sale. I thought that
was a fun scene. It was a shot at Greystone,
which which they used for Chiltern. Suki has I thought
it was the perfect idea to have Suki make all
the baked goods because Lorela is not going to make
anything that is going to meet the standards of this
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chiltin crowd, Right, so Suki's got you know, her taste,
sensations and all this. It was perfect. And then but
then she lights the table on fire, so it was
it was just it was just classic Suki. I thought,
you know, she's they established her as accident prona, kind
of clumsy, and uh it was. It was perfectly in
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character for her. So I enjoyed that. And then we
see Max. This is where we get the for all
the fans, this is the iconic line, do you like
coffee only with my oxygen? This was the scene was
the source of that line. So that was fun to
see that. And then you know, Max says that there's
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nothing in the Chiltern rules that prohibits a teacher from
dating a parent, which it's hard to believe that, they're.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, it's hard to believe. Yeah, but parents as paying
what fifty sixty dollars a year? Yeah, would you would
think that it's a clause right, right? Paperwork? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, And this is where he starts the hard court
Press about Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Know what, Greg, I want to talk about Lauren Graham.
I'm want to talk about her skill set, and ladies
and gentlemen listen to me. And Greg Henry is one
of the great talents over the past I don't know,
forty years working in film and television. And the first
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time I be became aware of Greg Henry because I
want to ask you about Lauren's skill set. But I
want to set you up because when I became aware
of you for the first time, uh, and I didn't
know who you were, and I hadn't seen you in
anything prior. But you weren't Scarface with al Pacino and
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you did a scene out you right, right, but okay,
but that's my point. My point is, And you were
from the State Department, right, You were representing the State Department.
You were in the the Colombian drug lords living room.
Al Pacino was in big trouble. He needed help and
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he was gonna he flew to Columbia to get to
get help. And you were introduced to Tony Montana. And
this is what was your character's name in in Scarface.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Smith, mister Smith from Washington, right.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And this is mister Smith from from Washington. They say
State Department from Washington.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
They just say from Washington. I don't think from Washington.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Okay, I don't know. I don't think you had a line,
but I'll never forget a the suit you were wearing,
the way you shook al Pacino's hand, and the way
you looked at him, and it was like, wow, that's
an actor.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I did have.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Oh did you?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
The line was how do you do mister Montana? Right there?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yes, how do you do mister? But it was just
just so impactful. And I love when I see actors
know the you know, the old saying there's no such
thing as a small role. There are only small actors.
You took that role, owned it, and man it was.
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It was powerful, and it always every time I see
that film, and I you know, I watched it a
couple times a year because it's such a great film,
and you like to revisit these great films. Always look
forward to that scene. And I said, wait here comes
Greg Henry. He's gonna shake his hand, he's gonna shake
his hairs. Look at that. So just you have to
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have real experience and a real skill set to take
something seemingly so minuscule in a film. But tell a
story with your body, and tell a story with your mind.
And that's what you did, and that's what you do
so well. Tell us about Lauren Graham and how great
a comedic and dramatic actors she is a thing she
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was doing with the scenes with Maxi Medina.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, she's uh, she's quite magical. She lives.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
She she is always in the moment. Everything is like
coming right coming right from her being, right from where
she's sitting there and from her understanding of of of
Laura Lai and uh and and and that's why it
appears so effortless. But it's not easy. But but but
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she uh, she.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just allows herself.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And and she allows herself these impulses, and the impulses
are what are so surprising. The impulses are what surprising
in the throw or the or the delivery or the
or the intent, you know. And she's very comfortable in
her knowledge of her whole world, which is uh, which
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also kind of informs everything.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And it's uh. And she just has a great sense
of humor too.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
She's very you know, very on top of it in
terms of how she plays everything as every as really
everyone is in this show.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But and I.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Uh and and you're right that it that it you
know that you can find yourself in in Halifax in
the morning missing up that it's because it's because it's
it's so real, because it's so just from the being uh.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You know, just just you know, a slight look, a
slight you know, lift of a word, you know, those.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Things surprise you. And and the surprising things are makes
this stuff happen in the eyes.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think interesting how they shoot it too. I think
they really gave us a gift by not being obsessed
with you know, too much coverage and too many close
ups and you know, you know, dirty over the shoulder
close ups and then totally clean close ups and we're
going to punch in even further and further and further,
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you know, and it just becomes so restricted. And how
this is a little looser, you know, it's in people
are able to sort of you're able to see people
living and acting together in the scenes more in this show,
so it almost seems like it's it's it's more real life. Greg. Also,
when you're a lot of fans wanted to know when
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you're preparing your scene work for Mitcham Huntsberger. Are you
Are you loving it as much as I think you
are because you get to say that stuff and be
that guy? And are you having as much fun as
I think you are when you're actually acting it?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, Mitcham was tremendous fun. It was just great words
and a great character and.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Uh you know, and.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I was I was just sort of like I just
went on a thing in Connecticut for the Gilmour Girls
and we sort of the so that we talked about
you know that that you don't Got it line, which
of course is you know, there was like there I
would get like glares from women in the in the
grocery store, you know, and I'm like, you know, it
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must be one of those violent killers I play that
they hate.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
No, no, Mitchellsburger.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And uh so, but we got into that a little bit,
and and you know, I think Mitcham was you know,
That's that's the great thing about the writing is that
it's from a very very real place.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
There's like all kinds of just tough love being offered there.
You know. Was it colored a little bit, you know
with his opinion, sure, but but it was a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And and I rewatched sort of the episodes, and and
I remember the scene and with with Ed Herman, which
was which was a lot of fun. And and I
believe that's that's kind of the coldest that Mitcham ever
gets is in that scene with Ed in the in
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the in the restroom, he's he's funny, he's kind of charming,
but he's you see him like bring kind of the
power hammer down, you know. And and that was an
interesting flavor too.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But the main thing is the writing. The writing is just,
you know, so rich, it's so wonderful.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah it is. Yeah, I'll never forget that scene. I'll
never stop and enjoining, you know, speeding up that particular
episode you were in when you came and and you
and uh and Maddie had had a real, real, real
shouting match with each other.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I was to toe, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I was. I was just as good as it gets.
I was just like and it's when I that scene
made me realize. I mean, I always knew how good
you were, but that scene made me realize how good
Maddie is. Yeah, boy man, it was like, how do
you stand toe to toe with Greg Henry and just
keep delivering shots. It's just it's because you're fast, man,
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you're on it. And if you're not on it, man,
Greg Henry is going to eat your lunch. You're not
going to be able to keep up. It's just.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Very, very wonderful, wonderful guy too.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I like him, Yes, great guy. Absolutely, he's a friend
of the show. He's been on a couple of times.
I run into you know, I run into him once
in a while at conventions. It's always good to see him.
So we're uh walking through Stars Hollow Dosie's market. Now
we go inside. Miss Patty is there, and now we
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see Kirk. Susanne take us to Kirk and miss Miss
Patty encounter.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
This is an interesting scene because Kirk and Miss Patty
don't seem to know each other, which as the as
the series progresses, we know that they've both lived in
Stars Hollow forever. Miss Patty even makes some comment about it,
you know, having Kirk in a class when he was
a child. So it's a little bit of that kind
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of early on where we're trying to settle all the
characters and they haven't quite figured out where everybody fits
yet because it's not consistent. Later in the show that
the two of them are strangers to each other, but
just some funny, you know, double entendra suggestive banter about
putting things in their mouths, and it's a funny scene.
(29:27):
Like it was. It's a great scene when the plums
and Miss Patty's talking to Rory and Rory's like looking
really uncomfortable. It's just classic town kind of stuff. We've
talked on this podcast before about how the town itself
is a character and and you know all of these
crazy people that live there and they all have their
(29:47):
their individual quirks. In this scene, I think is a
perfect embodiment of that. And Rory shows up at the
cashier with a head of lettuce and a mouse trap
and a dollar like it's just it's just it's just
a great scene. I it's I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, and no a maoutter. How bizarre they are. You know,
you got to bet and Maury. They're full of heart
and soul. And Miss Patty if there's all this sexual
sexual innuendo that you may make some people uncomfortable or
deem inappropriate, she's full of heart and soul right now.
At the end of the day, she loves everybody. Everybody
loves her, but everybody has their quirks and they're accepted
(30:25):
for it. So it's it's it's it's a nice feeling.
It's a nice place. There's real freedom in there.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
One thing that that we noted too, is that we've
established Doci's Market as kind of a central place in
the town. But we haven't even met Taylor yet. Taylor,
we haven't wait a long until episode like seven or eight.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I think, Oh, is that right?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, So it's interesting that we were more familiar with
the market itself than we are with Taylor yet at the.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Great Michael Winters, Yes, so we'll see him soon. Good Greg.
What do you think of the coffee date when Max
Medina and Laurel I meet after her college course business course?
(31:16):
What you what do you think of that? This is
the arm rubbing?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
We already referred to this that I did.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I did find the arm choice a little a little pressing, uh,
kind of kind of bold, kind of very but but
I did like that they set it up there, that
it was a coffee date. And she says, you know,
I just happened to be there at four four twelve
every day or whatever, and and I thought that that
(31:44):
was charming. But you see, but the way they play together,
uh uh, Scott Moore is very you know, it's got
that sparkle, it's got that it's got that that stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
You know that there's like real, real juice here, you know.
And uh and I thought that it and I thought
that it played played well, you know the arm thing.
I thought, well, I don't I see, I didn't know
how how it was going to end at the end,
you know, So there was a little bit of suspense there.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
For me with with when he was going for the army, like, oh,
that might be she might just say, nope, I'm sorry,
I'm giving my arm back. But but uh, but it
turned out to be the opposite of that. That it's
like kind of a boulder choice and and and uh
that makes us go that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Direction because he certainly you know. And she liked it.
She looked at down, She looked down and smiled, and
she liked it like a guy taking charge here, you know.
And uh, ash, she said, you know, it's it's been
a long time since she's dated somebody, seriously, you know
what I mean. And uh, anyway, yeah, I I it's
(32:58):
when I I found my love for Max Medina. You
gotta respect the guy who can just throw it down
like that and then match witzwe her like that and
tongue tire and then she was like, all right, here's
a card I'm getting out of here. Call me.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
So great into that too is like round one and
you're already you know that.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They both right compelling, compelling, And then that guy sits
down in the middle of the guy with that giant
face a face a face yeah. I mean, the guy
didn't have to say a word. It was hysterical. And
then he got the point and left, all right, we're going,
let's go to the diner. Susan takes Susan takes to
the diner, Luke's Diner.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Okay, so Luke's Diner. I loved the banter between Suki
and Luke in this scene, they're sitting at the counter.
There's an issue with there's no onions on the burger,
and so Suki takes it upon herself to doctor up
everyone's food that's that's sitting there at the bar, which
(34:01):
Luke does not take kindly to, and the makes that
comment you bring her in here again, I want her
on a leash. That was a good lie and then
at the at the end of the scene is when
Rory comes in to say that something happened to Cinnamon.
So it kind of ends on a down or note.
But I thought it was a funny scene. Lorel is
(34:22):
trying to kind of think through the scenario and what
does she want to do with Max and what does
she not want to do with Max? And it was
a good scene.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
The one thing that surprised me about that scene was
Luke had a funny line in the beginning of it
when they're kind of oddball conversation that they were not
connecting on and Suki didn't get and look, just chimes
and how do you guys get any work done? I mean,
when the Palladinos throw you a good line, man, you
just hope you don't blow it right. It just you
(34:54):
hope you hit it right.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Such a gift they give you, such gifts.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And yeah, he was the guy at the counter that
Lorla I was saying, well, you know, it would be
nice to get some, you know, and then like, I
don't know, and the guy next to him is like,
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The one that Michelle referred to it the way, because yo,
hehaw Man from the same guy. Okay, so now we
are actually at bet Morey's house. Cinnamon's gone, ma he
thinks it was the clams. I thought this was one
of the more comical and touching scenes with the description
(35:38):
of the cat sliding across on the west floor. Oh man, Greg, God, Greg,
take take this one. Take this one.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Well, Sally stra and she says she came him a
nudge and then a further nudge, and I just waxed
the floors and he went sliding.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
The cross hit the lamp and that's.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
What I knew.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Oh my god, I howled it down. I watched it twice.
I I like, I gotta roll it back and watch
it again. And it was just as funny. Oh god,
oh Mercy, that was funny.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And you know Sally magic. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's magic.
She's magic.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Well, then when it goes into the you know, when
she's going through all the medications that she gave the cat,
you know, each one, you know, and then finding the
one that's for her, it's like, it's it's as you
say about her earlier. I mean, it's it's it's quite comical,
but it's also it's just it's just touching you know.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
That woman can make you laugh and cry at the
same time. Yes, that is rare. She's I don't know,
Sally Struthers to me is everything that's right about acting.
And even even even the nurse that came or the
medical person who came to take the cat away, or
(37:07):
you know, even she has gets a great line. You know,
the cat was two hundred and sixty years old in
human years, so you know, I mean, it's just the
Palatinas are very generous. They probably have so much wit
and so much comedy inside them. They you know, imagine
being with them for a day. And I was, so
it's kind of great. All right, Suzanne, take us through
(37:29):
the wake. Now we are at the entitled scene.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
So, yeah, the wake was such a great scene with
all of the town coming together for this cat, and
it's in this crazy house with the low ceilings and
the pull away. It just was so quirky. And the
Suki there's more Suki and Luke Banner was setting up
the food and you know, Suki's describing exactly how everything's
(37:58):
going to be and Luke's just like digging it in.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
But what about the visual when they both get stuck
in the door competing. That was classic.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, it's just everything about this scene I loved. And
you know, Rory was all flustered by Dan and she
tells Laura, I go to Chilton now, like she's she's
just so gobsmacked by running into Dean. And then there's
you know, funny banter between Kirk and Miss Patty.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
He apologizes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
And yeah, he apologizes for because he didn't know she
was the Miss Patty. And then we have at the
same part the scene where they're doing the dishes, and
like you were saying, Scott, this is where she's funny
and sad at the same time. She cracks that joke
about Lorla's ass, like just hilarious, and then she's crying
(38:54):
in the next sentence, like it just it was great.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
She's a master. She's just a master.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah, there's no one else that I can think of
that could have played that role. She just is amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
But believe it or not, they are out there. There's
there's actresses out there you've never heard of that do that.
Oh yeah, yeah, No, there's all kinds of these brilliant
theater actresses that you just you know, they're not famous,
but they're so good. Right, you know, and you see
them if you go to regional theater, you see them.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
That's the thing with acting, Like I'm I'm not an actress.
I'm not in the entertainment industry aside from being on
this podcast. But I always think that there's so much
talent out there, and it's it's sometimes it just comes
down to lock. Like somebody got a lucky break and
someone else doesn't. Doesn't mean that they're less talented. It
(39:43):
just means that they didn't get that chance.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
It just it just shows you how specific casting can be. Yeah,
on the great shows, the memorable shows, you know, the
historic shows, the casting is so ultraspecific. You can be
you know, ninety nine point nine nine percent perfect for
the role, but then a guy walks in who's one
hundred percent. You know. It's it's that subtle. I think
(40:07):
that's what the show accomplishes. So well, anyway, continue I no.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
So then also the Wake is where Rory finally kind
of connects with Dean because he's going to walk away
right He's like, I'm sorry, I bugged you. I can
see you're not interested. I'll leave you alone, and she's
like wait no, like she finally overcomes her shyness and
is able to connect with him and express that she's
interested too, So that obviously going to set the tone
(40:35):
for the whole rest of the season. And then kind
of wraps up with loral I seeing Max on the
front porch and she's like, oh crap, that was tonight.
And so then we have the Laurel I Rory conversation.
You know, Rory's like, when were you going to tell
me this? Which was a valid point. So yeah, this
(40:56):
whole weake scene was really the whole crux of the episode.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
So yeah, the ending scene with uh Lorale sort of
almost pleading with her daughter for permission to date Max.
I think very clever device because if and very risky, right,
(41:21):
I mean, talk about taking a chance as artists as
writers to pull this off, right, because it's on its face,
it's uncomfortable to see this conversation, but it opens up
a whole sea of possibilities for where the show can
go and what's acceptable because I think they pushed the
(41:43):
envelope really far on this one, but it worked. It
just kind of works because they just love each other
so much. We are trained as an audience to expect
that this folks, This ain't your traditional mother daughter relationships.
This is going to be a little different experience for y'all, right,
(42:05):
and that's what we get in this conversation. And this
is you know, possible but probable, probable but not possible. No,
it is, it's happening, and there we have it. So
they're laying it all out for us and saying this
is a little different and accept it or not, but
this is where we're going with this bravely forward.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I think to some extent that's kind of a normal
progression because we know that when Rory was younger, Rory
and Lorelai were like best buds, they were pals. They
weren't so much mother and daughter. But now Rory is
a teenager, she's starting to, you know, have romantic feelings
for a boy. Laurela's having romantic feelings like So now
(42:50):
we're kind of moving into a more adult phase. And
now they have to negotiate that transition from maybe not
a transition, but the parallel existence of a friend friendship
as well as a parent child relationship. It's kind of
that setting up that conflict and how are they going
to get through that?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
You know, what you should have your own podcast. Oh
you do, Sorry, Greg. When you were a kid, were
you a Dean? Were you were you a Jess Or
were you a Matt or neither? Neither?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Neither?
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, really really neither.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Were you a Maxi Medina?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I was definitely not a Max Medina. I never off
that arm.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Were you Were you a Luke Danes?
Speaker 3 (43:46):
You know, I have limited sort of knowledge in terms
of the team Luke Tine Dean thing.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
And so I'm going to go that I was closer.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
With with Maddie Alphabet. You know, I don't know, I
think because he's you know, I was a very sort
of proper kind of kid, and and I think that
that is what he is.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
We laid or learned, maybe not as proper as we
once knew, I think.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
But so I think that's and and uh and uh
you know the bus.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
The bus move. Also it's a very bold move, the
bus move and the r move.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
These guys are like, you know, they're coming in and uh,
taking chances.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
So I don't think. I think I was probably more Maddy.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Before we go, I have a question for Greg. So
another element of our podcast is that we have two
other hosts that are rewatching Bunheads.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Oh yeah, which, of course you.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Were in Bunheads and the character of Rico is so
different from mitcham Huntsberger that one of our hosts, Danielle,
didn't even realize it was you playing the role until
someone told her. So I just wanted to see, Like,
having now worked on two different Amy Sherman Palladino shows,
(45:16):
and Bunheads has a lot of similar Gilmore elements, you know,
strong female relationships, quirky town, all that kind of stuff.
What was it like being on both of those sets?
Was it was it a similar atmosphere or was Bunheads
different than Gilmore? Like, what were your thoughts having worked
on two shows with with that crew?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Oh, well, it was it was a similar few feeling,
it was. It was a it was a pretty warm set,
you know, and I think Gilmore Girls was more easy.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
It was more and you know, they've been doing it
for five years by the time I got there, so.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, and kind of in the crunch of being a
new show, and so it was you know, that was
that was in the air.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
But you know, uh, everybody was, you know, wonderful. Sutton
was was wonderful and of course, Amen, Dan, And I'm
just trying to remember, but yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Would say that that's that's the difference. That's the difference
between the two. Is one one you kind of your
shoulders are a little higher, you know, than they were
in the other one.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Well, I Greg, you're going to join us December eighteenth
for a live podcast as at Warner Brothers. Uh, looking
very much forward to that, and Uh, we're just going
to have a good time over there.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
No, you know, does is mean I have to get
my computer to work again or if I join you,
I'm joining you and at Warner Brothers. Am I not?
Oh yeah that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Oh yeah, you're going to be there.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
That's you're person to person.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
You're taking the stage. Man, you can take it over.
You're gonna come up there and take over. You know.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Anyway, Thank
you so much for your time, Greg. Looking forward to
seeing you in December. I'm sure the fans are too,
so if you want to join Greg and all of
our other guests on live I am all in podcasts
from Warner Brothers Studios. Suzanne will be in attendance. The
entire crew will be there, The Intrepid Crew, Greg Henry
(47:31):
will be there, plus some other guests. Go to veeps
dot com slash I Am all In to get your
streaming tickets and you'll be able to access that stream
December twenty second for a week or two. I think
it's about a week after that, twenty two through twenty eight. Anyway, Greg,
(47:51):
thanks so much for your time and we'll see you soon, Buddy.
Be well, all right, Suzanne, take care, Thank you everybody,
and remember where you lead, we will follow. Take care
(48:34):
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I Am all in Again. Oh let's just you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi am all in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one
eleven productions, iHeartRadio, I Heeart Media, I Heart Podcasts, Season one,
Episode five, Cinnamon's Wake. Air date November two, two thousand.
I am joined by part of the Intrepid Crew, the
one and only Susanne French, who has her own feature
(00:43):
on I Am All In Again and is having a
great time with Terrist Sude. Suzanne. Hello, tell us a
little bit about that. How's it going? How are you
enjoying it?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Hey, Scott, it's good to see you again. I haven't
seen you in forever since we're not.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, I miss the old Crow.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But the town meeting is going great. Tara and I
are having a good time just having a conversation about
some of the deeper details of the episode. We don't
have to really dig into the plot that much, so
we can look at all the other action that's going on.
So it's going great. We're having a good time, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Good, Well, the fans seem to be enjoying it, and
that's a plus anyway. So you want to go ahead
and read the synopsis and we'll get into it.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Sure, so you already covered. This is season one, episode five,
Cinnamon's Weak. It aired November two, two thousand. Rory has
an awkward run in with Dean on the bus, leaving
her flustered. Plus, Rory's English teacher boldly asks Lorlai out,
catching her off guard, and Stars Hollow gathers for an
unexpectedly heartfelt funeral for Babette's beloved cats.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh Man, Michael Cadaman directed. Dan Palatino wrote it. You know,
we're waiting. Greg Henry is supposed to be a guest
host today, but he's having Internet issues, So we're gonna
go ahead and plunge forward here. Hopefully he can join
us at some point. So let's start with the Friday
(02:11):
night dinner and the Nazi joke. Emily socialized with a
Nazi joke.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
This show, this show, episode five, Suzanne. It seems to
be you know, finding its legs right, finding its sea
legs a little bit here, and it's so charming to
watch because we know, now that I've seen it once
and you've seen it a million times, we now know
what it became right, I mean it really did mature
(02:44):
as the seasons went on, but still, these first five
episodes are so charming. Yeah, they are so innocent and
they are so sweet, and it really and the one
thing that really jumped out at me overall, and then
we'll get into some of these details, is how the
Palladinos love to set up this normal, little bit oddball
(03:06):
world that is so safe and wonderful and charming and adorable.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yes, it's like a warm hug, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
But they push the envelope on the ethical side, the
Maxi Medina Lorelei Rory. Right. So that's so they make
it a little uncomfortable with Miss Patty, they make it
a little bit uncomfortable with the sexual innuendo and that
kind of a thing, not the normal thing, you know,
that kind of thing. And in other areas like Luke too,
(03:34):
he's a little too angry at Sukie And it's like
this is but it gives this fantasy town a sense
of of realness that it's real, do you think but interesting?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
It definitely. It's it's like a warm, kind of comforting setting,
but it has an edge. So yeah, so it like
like you're saying, it kind of like takes you to
a to a different place. Yeah, so it's you know,
it's it's just good writing. It's always But.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Isn't it Isn't it wonderful seeing uh the you know,
one of the first couple of Friday Night Dinners and
how the tension is between mother and daughter and and
then poor Rory has to to witness this and be
exposed to this, and then you know, ends up on
Emily's side because you know, Emily's smart, and she's quick,
(04:30):
and she's clever, and she got Laurel. I right, she got,
she got she shut her out exactly, she used she
used uh, Laurel's own tactics against her and ended up
shutting her down a Friday night dinner. But now we're
seeing the beginnings of this. Uh you know this, this
(04:51):
this classic Friday Night Dinners and you could you can
make an entire spin off show about and just call
it Friday Night Dinner Dinner with Emily and Richard. Right,
but they discussed there he is. Greg Henry is joining
us ladies and gentlemen, round of applause for the one
and only Greg Henry. Hi, Greg, thanks.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
For yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Susan Suzanna French is joining us here and we're getting
into the first scenes. So did you did you get
a chance to watch the episode? Greg? Oh yeah, absolutely,
tell us your tell us your initial thoughts at these
uh episode five Cinnamon's Wake. You know this, uh, this
new kind of sensational warm show getting its sea legs,
(05:34):
and here we are at the beginnings of this. You know,
it's it hasn't quite matured yet as a show, but
you can see the DNA is quite quite good.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh yes, spectacular. I mean it's just uh.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
An entirely complete world and it has this wonderful, funny
vision that everybody is in the same everybody's in the
same show.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, which sometimes that's hard to do in shows.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And it's like, uh, it's it's so wonderful and everybody's
just so so good in their parts. I just laughed
out loud, spit take laughed a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, there's always those zingers and very moving. I thought
too that, I mean, how do you how do you
shed a tear in the morning? And Halifax Nova Scotia
over a dead cat, but they managed.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I was hearing you are somewhere, You're in Halifax.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm in Halifax, and I'm sitting up here, like, you know,
is that a tear forming in the in the right
eye and touching?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's very touching.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Uh it's because you know, because for me, it's it's
Sally Struthers, right, it's it's a situation, but it's Sally
Struthers lends it such credibility, and it's it's just she's
such a Yes, she's such she wears her heart on
her sleeve. She's so funny. She throws a line away
like we got copons, you know, it's like that's why
(06:59):
they had the clams and else pancake. It's just she's
just such a master. Anyway, so we're doing the Friday
night dinner scene and we know what these Friday night
dinners turned into. They turned into these epic affairs that
all the fans look forward to. And Susan helped me out.
(07:21):
Are they every single episode? Do we see a Friday
night dinner every single episode? Or they skip some? I
think there's.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
There's some episodes where the timeframe we actually get to
Friday night dinners, but there are some that we don't
get one at all. I think I think probably most
episodes have one but not every single one.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Right, right, and again pushing the envelope with using a
Nazi joke to socialize at the at the at the
Friday night dinner. Again, we were talking about putting how
the show pushes the envelope ethically and taste wise, but
just a little bit not not It doesn't stretch it
too far. It always kind of defaults back to this warm,
(08:08):
odd ball place filled with these wonderful people who It's like,
I'm watching a show right now, and Greg, I don't
know about you, but I'm not the demo for this show.
I was on it, but I'm not. I'm not watching
this show. And it's like I'm watching the show right now.
That's it's pretty wonderful vibe. It's created because the entire
(08:29):
town showed up at the wake for a dead cat.
Who wouldn't want to live in a town like that, right,
I mean after you get to be a certain age, right.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
She says, our town is so weird, and she says,
thank God, right.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Right, all right, So now we're now we're at the
Lorelei's house and she's a little cranky and she's supposed
to be baking for the Chilton Bake sale, Lane is
busting down.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
In the Gilmore Girls living room before school the time
Bomb by Ransid, we see that iconic shot that they
use in the credit sequence with Lrori's bedroom door opening
and Lane rocking out. We see I Bet and Maury
walking Cinema's an ill. Uh. What do you say? Dyspeptic?
(09:25):
Cinnamon was dyspeptic? Isn't walking very well? Had some clams
at Al's pancake where all everybody's not feeling good. And
then Rory waits for the bus and Dean spots are
uh and and then sits on the bus behind it.
What did you think of that? Guys? You know, Dean
(09:47):
was coming off like such the mysterious cool guy right
up to this point and then he just sort of
like jumps on the bus and what do you I
think he was a little was she a little annoyed
or was she playing it like she was she just
sort of froze up because she likes the guy.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
She seemed a little disturbed by it. Yeah, she did, right,
But I thought it was cute, Like I didn't think
it was creepy or anything like that. I mean, you know,
he got on and said hi, and then he got
off the next stop. I didn't. I didn't have a
problem with it, but she seemed a little like, what
are you doing? Like startled by it?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Right right? And at this point we know that this
is this is a show that is establishing these generations.
It's Emily, it's it's Laurel I, it's Rory. This is
where these we're going to inhabit these worlds, and they're
you know, Laurel I is going to inhabit every world
(10:51):
in the show. Rory's going to inhabit a lot of
the worlds. Emily is going to stay in her own world,
and when she comes into stars Hollow, that's you know,
that's like another planet for her. But we're establishing now
what this whole journey is about, and it's about, you know,
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at this point, girls meeting boys and being asked out
and Greg, I remember the first time around, first go round,
when we three years ago, when we broke down this episode,
I had a big problem with Max Medina and I
had a big problem with Laura Lei actually agreeing to
(11:34):
date him. What are your initial thoughts about that whole narrative.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, your thoughts might have been colored by the we've
been playing the competition, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
What it is it is an interesting dilemma, you know
in terms of a teacher and and and a student
and uh and.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Then the parents of that student. That's that is interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And I thought that they I thought that they played
it really nicely in terms of they they they dragged
it out and they they made her.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Meeting of it very official. But then.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The discovery during the during during Cinnamon's weight that then
triggers actually being truthful about it and upfront about it
or or not withholding as she said, not withholding information.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I thought it was I thought it was good because
it pointed out that those kind of things are like
they're they're difficult to have, but they there must be
had those conversations and that uh.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And that these this is this is a very loving and.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Smart uh mother daughter and and I thought it played well.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I I like mm hmm second time around. Uh yeah,
I like Max I I you know, I feel him.
How can you blame him? Right? I mean, you've got
a woman like that and he's just gaga for her.
Just wow, she's beautiful, she's smart, she's funny, she's her
(13:14):
own person. There's a real strength coming out of her.
At the same time, there's this irresistible vulnerability and flashing
those eyes at him, and it's just like, you know,
how you gonna how are you gonna not ask her
out right? And he's he's crossing a line and and
(13:34):
she's crossing a line. And but such such a great
love affair is made of the same stuff, right, That's
that's got a lot of potential. There a lot of potential.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
One thing I noticed in this rewatch that I haven't
noticed previously is the parallel between Max being so persistent
and she's resisting, resisting, resis and then she finally caves in.
It reminded me of season seven when she's in Paris
with Christopher and he's like, marry me, marry me, marry me.
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She's like, no, no, we can't, blah blah, and then
she at the end she caves in and ends up
Mary and Christopher. So I actually liked it less this
time than on previous watches because I did think Max
was being a little pushy, and I kind of felt
bad for Rory because she's struggling at this school. She
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kind of feels like everybody's against her, and now her
mom is going to date her teacher and she was
completely blindsided by it. I felt a little bad.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
For Rory, but I bought into the max vibe because
it's a guy who I mean, he wanted to marry her.
Did you get that sense like I have found somebody
very very special? And I think maybe that was the
point of of that storyline, is like this is how
special she is. Where this guy goes this nut's over
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her and they're both going to cross these lines, and
you know, Ry's just gonna have to deal with it
because she's going to get it from both sides. She's
going to get it at school and she's going to
get it at home.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, but that's not really fair to her.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It's not. It's not, but it does speak of the
level of attraction between these two. So I'm kind of
down with it now.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, there was definite attraction there, for sure. I just
felt like they could have not acted on it while.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
He is her teacher.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I felt bad for her at the end when when
Laura was putting all of it on Rory and saying, well,
I won't date him if you don't want me to,
Like that wasn't really fair to put that on Rory's
shoulders because what she's supposed to say, like she didn't
want her mom to be unhappy. So I don't know,
I just saw it differently this time around than I
have in the past.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It's almost like they were of like roommates and contemporaries,
and it's like, look, I'm going to date him. I
know you like him, but I'm going to date him first.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
It was almost on that level, and it really blurred
the lines between mother and daughter.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yes, yeah, Laurela, I was definitely not thinking on a
parental level.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Right, Still charming, uh, still still kind of dig Max Medina.
You know, I like it. I know it's ethically strained
and it's it did stress me out, the touching of
the elbow and the whole thing. But he was really
rubbing her arm. Man, he was going for that arm.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
The arm rub. It kind of got to me too.
You're right, I will say it was a little forward.
It was kind of an aggressive choice in that particular setting.
But but he.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Just, man, he wanted to close that deal, and.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He was like he wanted to close it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, he couldn't stop himself. He was just like, I
want you and I want to date you and this
is messed up, and I know it. It's going to
mess up your daughter maybe, But Jane, we're gonna be together.
We're all going to be together.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I love your babe, and let's do this. I don't know,
all right. Then the French group comes into the end
and Michelle hysterically tells them with a French accent, a
very thick French accent, that he's from Texas, and he
(17:28):
refuses to talk to them.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He never disappoints.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I swear he really does. He really does. Yeah, these
early episodes, he's got some of the best Michelle stuff
there is in the whole library of episodes. And now
we see, you know, larelized wacky world inside that independence end,
and we want to keep going back. I like how
(17:52):
they just give us little tastes of it, keep us
wanting more. Shows very good at doing that. All right,
Let's go to the bake sale, Susanne, and why don't
you take over the section and take us through the
bake sale?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Okay, So I liked the bake sale. I thought that
was a fun scene. It was a shot at Greystone,
which which they used for Chiltern. Suki has I thought
it was the perfect idea to have Suki make all
the baked goods because Lorela is not going to make
anything that is going to meet the standards of this
(18:26):
chiltin crowd, Right, so Suki's got you know, her taste,
sensations and all this. It was perfect. And then but
then she lights the table on fire, so it was
it was just it was just classic Suki. I thought,
you know, she's they established her as accident prona, kind
of clumsy, and uh it was. It was perfectly in
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character for her. So I enjoyed that. And then we
see Max. This is where we get the for all
the fans, this is the iconic line, do you like
coffee only with my oxygen? This was the scene was
the source of that line. So that was fun to
see that. And then you know, Max says that there's
(19:07):
nothing in the Chiltern rules that prohibits a teacher from
dating a parent, which it's hard to believe that, they're.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, it's hard to believe. Yeah, but parents as paying
what fifty sixty dollars a year? Yeah, would you would
think that it's a clause right, right? Paperwork? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, And this is where he starts the hard court
Press about Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Know what, Greg, I want to talk about Lauren Graham.
I'm want to talk about her skill set, and ladies
and gentlemen listen to me. And Greg Henry is one
of the great talents over the past I don't know,
forty years working in film and television. And the first
(19:59):
time I be became aware of Greg Henry because I
want to ask you about Lauren's skill set. But I
want to set you up because when I became aware
of you for the first time, uh, and I didn't
know who you were, and I hadn't seen you in
anything prior. But you weren't Scarface with al Pacino and
(20:22):
you did a scene out you right, right, but okay,
but that's my point. My point is, And you were
from the State Department, right, You were representing the State Department.
You were in the the Colombian drug lords living room.
Al Pacino was in big trouble. He needed help and
(20:42):
he was gonna he flew to Columbia to get to
get help. And you were introduced to Tony Montana. And
this is what was your character's name in in Scarface.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Smith, mister Smith from Washington, right.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And this is mister Smith from from Washington. They say
State Department from Washington.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
They just say from Washington. I don't think from Washington.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Okay, I don't know. I don't think you had a line,
but I'll never forget a the suit you were wearing,
the way you shook al Pacino's hand, and the way
you looked at him, and it was like, wow, that's
an actor.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I did have.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Oh did you?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
The line was how do you do mister Montana? Right there?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yes, how do you do mister? But it was just
just so impactful. And I love when I see actors
know the you know, the old saying there's no such
thing as a small role. There are only small actors.
You took that role, owned it, and man it was.
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It was powerful, and it always every time I see
that film, and I you know, I watched it a
couple times a year because it's such a great film,
and you like to revisit these great films. Always look
forward to that scene. And I said, wait here comes
Greg Henry. He's gonna shake his hand, he's gonna shake
his hairs. Look at that. So just you have to
(22:13):
have real experience and a real skill set to take
something seemingly so minuscule in a film. But tell a
story with your body, and tell a story with your mind.
And that's what you did, and that's what you do
so well. Tell us about Lauren Graham and how great
a comedic and dramatic actors she is a thing she
(22:34):
was doing with the scenes with Maxi Medina.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, she's uh, she's quite magical. She lives.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
She she is always in the moment. Everything is like
coming right coming right from her being, right from where
she's sitting there and from her understanding of of of
Laura Lai and uh and and and that's why it
appears so effortless. But it's not easy. But but but
(23:06):
she uh, she.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just allows herself.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And and she allows herself these impulses, and the impulses
are what are so surprising. The impulses are what surprising
in the throw or the or the delivery or the
or the intent, you know. And she's very comfortable in
her knowledge of her whole world, which is uh, which
(23:35):
also kind of informs everything.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And it's uh. And she just has a great sense
of humor too.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
She's very you know, very on top of it in
terms of how she plays everything as every as really
everyone is in this show.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But and I.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Uh and and you're right that it that it you
know that you can find yourself in in Halifax in
the morning missing up that it's because it's because it's
it's so real, because it's so just from the being uh.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You know, just just you know, a slight look, a
slight you know, lift of a word, you know, those.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Things surprise you. And and the surprising things are makes
this stuff happen in the eyes.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think interesting how they shoot it too. I think
they really gave us a gift by not being obsessed
with you know, too much coverage and too many close
ups and you know, you know, dirty over the shoulder
close ups and then totally clean close ups and we're
going to punch in even further and further and further,
(24:45):
you know, and it just becomes so restricted. And how
this is a little looser, you know, it's in people
are able to sort of you're able to see people
living and acting together in the scenes more in this show,
so it almost seems like it's it's it's more real life. Greg. Also,
when you're a lot of fans wanted to know when
(25:07):
you're preparing your scene work for Mitcham Huntsberger. Are you
Are you loving it as much as I think you
are because you get to say that stuff and be
that guy? And are you having as much fun as
I think you are when you're actually acting it?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, Mitcham was tremendous fun. It was just great words
and a great character and.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Uh you know, and.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I was I was just sort of like I just
went on a thing in Connecticut for the Gilmour Girls
and we sort of the so that we talked about
you know that that you don't Got it line, which
of course is you know, there was like there I
would get like glares from women in the in the
grocery store, you know, and I'm like, you know, it
(26:02):
must be one of those violent killers I play that
they hate.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
No, no, Mitchellsburger.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And uh so, but we got into that a little bit,
and and you know, I think Mitcham was you know,
That's that's the great thing about the writing is that
it's from a very very real place.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
There's like all kinds of just tough love being offered there.
You know. Was it colored a little bit, you know
with his opinion, sure, but but it was a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And and I rewatched sort of the episodes, and and
I remember the scene and with with Ed Herman, which
was which was a lot of fun. And and I
believe that's that's kind of the coldest that Mitcham ever
gets is in that scene with Ed in the in
(26:56):
the in the restroom, he's he's funny, he's kind of charming,
but he's you see him like bring kind of the
power hammer down, you know. And and that was an
interesting flavor too.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But the main thing is the writing. The writing is just,
you know, so rich, it's so wonderful.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah it is. Yeah, I'll never forget that scene. I'll
never stop and enjoining, you know, speeding up that particular
episode you were in when you came and and you
and uh and Maddie had had a real, real, real
shouting match with each other.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I was to toe, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I was. I was just as good as it gets.
I was just like and it's when I that scene
made me realize. I mean, I always knew how good
you were, but that scene made me realize how good
Maddie is. Yeah, boy man, it was like, how do
you stand toe to toe with Greg Henry and just
keep delivering shots. It's just it's because you're fast, man,
(27:59):
you're on it. And if you're not on it, man,
Greg Henry is going to eat your lunch. You're not
going to be able to keep up. It's just.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Very, very wonderful, wonderful guy too.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I like him, Yes, great guy. Absolutely, he's a friend
of the show. He's been on a couple of times.
I run into you know, I run into him once
in a while at conventions. It's always good to see him.
So we're uh walking through Stars Hollow Dosie's market. Now
we go inside. Miss Patty is there, and now we
(28:33):
see Kirk. Susanne take us to Kirk and miss Miss
Patty encounter.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
This is an interesting scene because Kirk and Miss Patty
don't seem to know each other, which as the as
the series progresses, we know that they've both lived in
Stars Hollow forever. Miss Patty even makes some comment about it,
you know, having Kirk in a class when he was
a child. So it's a little bit of that kind
(29:03):
of early on where we're trying to settle all the
characters and they haven't quite figured out where everybody fits
yet because it's not consistent. Later in the show that
the two of them are strangers to each other, but
just some funny, you know, double entendra suggestive banter about
putting things in their mouths, and it's a funny scene.
(29:27):
Like it was. It's a great scene when the plums
and Miss Patty's talking to Rory and Rory's like looking
really uncomfortable. It's just classic town kind of stuff. We've
talked on this podcast before about how the town itself
is a character and and you know all of these
crazy people that live there and they all have their
(29:47):
their individual quirks. In this scene, I think is a
perfect embodiment of that. And Rory shows up at the
cashier with a head of lettuce and a mouse trap
and a dollar like it's just it's just it's just
a great scene. I it's I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, and no a maoutter. How bizarre they are. You know,
you got to bet and Maury. They're full of heart
and soul. And Miss Patty if there's all this sexual
sexual innuendo that you may make some people uncomfortable or
deem inappropriate, she's full of heart and soul right now.
At the end of the day, she loves everybody. Everybody
loves her, but everybody has their quirks and they're accepted
(30:25):
for it. So it's it's it's it's a nice feeling.
It's a nice place. There's real freedom in there.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
One thing that that we noted too, is that we've
established Doci's Market as kind of a central place in
the town. But we haven't even met Taylor yet. Taylor,
we haven't wait a long until episode like seven or eight.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I think, Oh, is that right?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, So it's interesting that we were more familiar with
the market itself than we are with Taylor yet at the.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Great Michael Winters, Yes, so we'll see him soon. Good Greg.
What do you think of the coffee date when Max
Medina and Laurel I meet after her college course business course?
(31:16):
What you what do you think of that? This is
the arm rubbing?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
We already referred to this that I did.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I did find the arm choice a little a little pressing, uh,
kind of kind of bold, kind of very but but
I did like that they set it up there, that
it was a coffee date. And she says, you know,
I just happened to be there at four four twelve
every day or whatever, and and I thought that that
(31:44):
was charming. But you see, but the way they play together,
uh uh, Scott Moore is very you know, it's got
that sparkle, it's got that it's got that that stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
You know that there's like real, real juice here, you know.
And uh and I thought that it and I thought
that it played played well, you know the arm thing.
I thought, well, I don't I see, I didn't know
how how it was going to end at the end,
you know, So there was a little bit of suspense there.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
For me with with when he was going for the army, like, oh,
that might be she might just say, nope, I'm sorry,
I'm giving my arm back. But but uh, but it
turned out to be the opposite of that. That it's
like kind of a boulder choice and and and uh
that makes us go that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Direction because he certainly you know. And she liked it.
She looked at down, She looked down and smiled, and
she liked it like a guy taking charge here, you know.
And uh, ash, she said, you know, it's it's been
a long time since she's dated somebody, seriously, you know
what I mean. And uh, anyway, yeah, I I it's
(32:58):
when I I found my love for Max Medina. You
gotta respect the guy who can just throw it down
like that and then match witzwe her like that and
tongue tire and then she was like, all right, here's
a card I'm getting out of here. Call me.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
So great into that too is like round one and
you're already you know that.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They both right compelling, compelling, And then that guy sits
down in the middle of the guy with that giant
face a face a face yeah. I mean, the guy
didn't have to say a word. It was hysterical. And
then he got the point and left, all right, we're going,
let's go to the diner. Susan takes Susan takes to
the diner, Luke's Diner.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Okay, so Luke's Diner. I loved the banter between Suki
and Luke in this scene, they're sitting at the counter.
There's an issue with there's no onions on the burger,
and so Suki takes it upon herself to doctor up
everyone's food that's that's sitting there at the bar, which
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Luke does not take kindly to, and the makes that
comment you bring her in here again, I want her
on a leash. That was a good lie and then
at the at the end of the scene is when
Rory comes in to say that something happened to Cinnamon.
So it kind of ends on a down or note.
But I thought it was a funny scene. Lorel is
(34:22):
trying to kind of think through the scenario and what
does she want to do with Max and what does
she not want to do with Max? And it was
a good scene.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
The one thing that surprised me about that scene was
Luke had a funny line in the beginning of it
when they're kind of oddball conversation that they were not
connecting on and Suki didn't get and look, just chimes
and how do you guys get any work done? I mean,
when the Palladinos throw you a good line, man, you
just hope you don't blow it right. It just you
(34:54):
hope you hit it right.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Such a gift they give you, such gifts.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And yeah, he was the guy at the counter that
Lorla I was saying, well, you know, it would be
nice to get some, you know, and then like, I
don't know, and the guy next to him is like,
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The one that Michelle referred to it the way, because yo,
hehaw Man from the same guy. Okay, so now we
are actually at bet Morey's house. Cinnamon's gone, ma he
thinks it was the clams. I thought this was one
of the more comical and touching scenes with the description
(35:38):
of the cat sliding across on the west floor. Oh man, Greg, God, Greg,
take take this one. Take this one.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Well, Sally stra and she says she came him a
nudge and then a further nudge, and I just waxed
the floors and he went sliding.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
The cross hit the lamp and that's.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
What I knew.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Oh my god, I howled it down. I watched it twice.
I I like, I gotta roll it back and watch
it again. And it was just as funny. Oh god,
oh Mercy, that was funny.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And you know Sally magic. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's magic.
She's magic.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Well, then when it goes into the you know, when
she's going through all the medications that she gave the cat,
you know, each one, you know, and then finding the
one that's for her, it's like, it's it's as you
say about her earlier. I mean, it's it's it's quite comical,
but it's also it's just it's just touching you know.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
That woman can make you laugh and cry at the
same time. Yes, that is rare. She's I don't know,
Sally Struthers to me is everything that's right about acting.
And even even even the nurse that came or the
medical person who came to take the cat away, or
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you know, even she has gets a great line. You know,
the cat was two hundred and sixty years old in
human years, so you know, I mean, it's just the
Palatinas are very generous. They probably have so much wit
and so much comedy inside them. They you know, imagine
being with them for a day. And I was, so
it's kind of great. All right, Suzanne, take us through
(37:29):
the wake. Now we are at the entitled scene.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
So, yeah, the wake was such a great scene with
all of the town coming together for this cat, and
it's in this crazy house with the low ceilings and
the pull away. It just was so quirky. And the
Suki there's more Suki and Luke Banner was setting up
the food and you know, Suki's describing exactly how everything's
(37:58):
going to be and Luke's just like digging it in.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
But what about the visual when they both get stuck
in the door competing. That was classic.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, it's just everything about this scene I loved. And
you know, Rory was all flustered by Dan and she
tells Laura, I go to Chilton now, like she's she's
just so gobsmacked by running into Dean. And then there's
you know, funny banter between Kirk and Miss Patty.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
He apologizes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
And yeah, he apologizes for because he didn't know she
was the Miss Patty. And then we have at the
same part the scene where they're doing the dishes, and
like you were saying, Scott, this is where she's funny
and sad at the same time. She cracks that joke
about Lorla's ass, like just hilarious, and then she's crying
(38:54):
in the next sentence, like it just it was great.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
She's a master. She's just a master.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah, there's no one else that I can think of
that could have played that role. She just is amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
But believe it or not, they are out there. There's
there's actresses out there you've never heard of that do that.
Oh yeah, yeah, No, there's all kinds of these brilliant
theater actresses that you just you know, they're not famous,
but they're so good. Right, you know, and you see
them if you go to regional theater, you see them.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
That's the thing with acting, Like I'm I'm not an actress.
I'm not in the entertainment industry aside from being on
this podcast. But I always think that there's so much
talent out there, and it's it's sometimes it just comes
down to lock. Like somebody got a lucky break and
someone else doesn't. Doesn't mean that they're less talented. It
(39:43):
just means that they didn't get that chance.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
It just it just shows you how specific casting can be. Yeah,
on the great shows, the memorable shows, you know, the
historic shows, the casting is so ultraspecific. You can be
you know, ninety nine point nine nine percent perfect for
the role, but then a guy walks in who's one
hundred percent. You know. It's it's that subtle. I think
(40:07):
that's what the show accomplishes. So well, anyway, continue I no.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
So then also the Wake is where Rory finally kind
of connects with Dean because he's going to walk away
right He's like, I'm sorry, I bugged you. I can
see you're not interested. I'll leave you alone, and she's
like wait no, like she finally overcomes her shyness and
is able to connect with him and express that she's
interested too, So that obviously going to set the tone
(40:35):
for the whole rest of the season. And then kind
of wraps up with loral I seeing Max on the
front porch and she's like, oh crap, that was tonight.
And so then we have the Laurel I Rory conversation.
You know, Rory's like, when were you going to tell
me this? Which was a valid point. So yeah, this
(40:56):
whole weake scene was really the whole crux of the episode.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
So yeah, the ending scene with uh Lorale sort of
almost pleading with her daughter for permission to date Max.
I think very clever device because if and very risky, right,
(41:21):
I mean, talk about taking a chance as artists as
writers to pull this off, right, because it's on its face,
it's uncomfortable to see this conversation, but it opens up
a whole sea of possibilities for where the show can
go and what's acceptable because I think they pushed the
(41:43):
envelope really far on this one, but it worked. It
just kind of works because they just love each other
so much. We are trained as an audience to expect
that this folks, This ain't your traditional mother daughter relationships.
This is going to be a little different experience for y'all, right,
(42:05):
and that's what we get in this conversation. And this
is you know, possible but probable, probable but not possible. No,
it is, it's happening, and there we have it. So
they're laying it all out for us and saying this
is a little different and accept it or not, but
this is where we're going with this bravely forward.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I think to some extent that's kind of a normal
progression because we know that when Rory was younger, Rory
and Lorelai were like best buds, they were pals. They
weren't so much mother and daughter. But now Rory is
a teenager, she's starting to, you know, have romantic feelings
for a boy. Laurela's having romantic feelings like So now
(42:50):
we're kind of moving into a more adult phase. And
now they have to negotiate that transition from maybe not
a transition, but the parallel existence of a friend friendship
as well as a parent child relationship. It's kind of
that setting up that conflict and how are they going
to get through that?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
You know, what you should have your own podcast. Oh
you do, Sorry, Greg. When you were a kid, were
you a Dean? Were you were you a Jess Or
were you a Matt or neither? Neither?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Neither?
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, really really neither.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Were you a Maxi Medina?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I was definitely not a Max Medina. I never off
that arm.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Were you Were you a Luke Danes?
Speaker 3 (43:46):
You know, I have limited sort of knowledge in terms
of the team Luke Tine Dean thing.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
And so I'm going to go that I was closer.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
With with Maddie Alphabet. You know, I don't know, I
think because he's you know, I was a very sort
of proper kind of kid, and and I think that
that is what he is.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
We laid or learned, maybe not as proper as we
once knew, I think.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
But so I think that's and and uh and uh
you know the bus.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
The bus move. Also it's a very bold move, the
bus move and the r move.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
These guys are like, you know, they're coming in and uh,
taking chances.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
So I don't think. I think I was probably more Maddy.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Before we go, I have a question for Greg. So
another element of our podcast is that we have two
other hosts that are rewatching Bunheads.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Oh yeah, which, of course you.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Were in Bunheads and the character of Rico is so
different from mitcham Huntsberger that one of our hosts, Danielle,
didn't even realize it was you playing the role until
someone told her. So I just wanted to see, Like,
having now worked on two different Amy Sherman Palladino shows,
(45:16):
and Bunheads has a lot of similar Gilmore elements, you know,
strong female relationships, quirky town, all that kind of stuff.
What was it like being on both of those sets?
Was it was it a similar atmosphere or was Bunheads
different than Gilmore? Like, what were your thoughts having worked
on two shows with with that crew?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Oh, well, it was it was a similar few feeling,
it was. It was a it was a pretty warm set,
you know, and I think Gilmore Girls was more easy.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
It was more and you know, they've been doing it
for five years by the time I got there, so.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, and kind of in the crunch of being a
new show, and so it was you know, that was
that was in the air.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
But you know, uh, everybody was, you know, wonderful. Sutton
was was wonderful and of course, Amen, Dan, And I'm
just trying to remember, but yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Would say that that's that's the difference. That's the difference
between the two. Is one one you kind of your
shoulders are a little higher, you know, than they were
in the other one.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Well, I Greg, you're going to join us December eighteenth
for a live podcast as at Warner Brothers. Uh, looking
very much forward to that, and Uh, we're just going
to have a good time over there.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
No, you know, does is mean I have to get
my computer to work again or if I join you,
I'm joining you and at Warner Brothers. Am I not?
Oh yeah that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Oh yeah, you're going to be there.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
That's you're person to person.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
You're taking the stage. Man, you can take it over.
You're gonna come up there and take over. You know.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Anyway, Thank
you so much for your time, Greg. Looking forward to
seeing you in December. I'm sure the fans are too,
so if you want to join Greg and all of
our other guests on live I am all in podcasts
from Warner Brothers Studios. Suzanne will be in attendance. The
entire crew will be there, The Intrepid Crew, Greg Henry
(47:31):
will be there, plus some other guests. Go to veeps
dot com slash I Am all In to get your
streaming tickets and you'll be able to access that stream
December twenty second for a week or two. I think
it's about a week after that, twenty two through twenty eight. Anyway, Greg,
(47:51):
thanks so much for your time and we'll see you soon, Buddy.
Be well, all right, Suzanne, take care, Thank you everybody,
and remember where you lead, we will follow. Take care
(48:34):
everybody to forget. Follow us on Instagram at I Am
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