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She played Dean’s younger sister Clara, Scout Taylor Compton joins Scott for Season 2 E16 “There’s the Rub”  Hear why Scout think this episode shapes the rest of the series between Emily and Lorelai. Plus, is it a WAY OR NO WAY? 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again. How that's just you? H?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all and Podcast one
eleven productions, iHeart Radio Media, iHeart Podcast. Special guest for
our Recap Season two, episode sixteen, There's the Rub is
the one and only Scout Taylor Compton. Welcome, Scout. How
are you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm doing so good your face.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's good to see you too. You're the creator and
writer of the Diaries of the Mortician's Daughter, a semi
autobiographical coming of age dark comedy inspired by your unconventional
upbringing in a funeral home. You also co host podcast
talks to Be with Danielle Harris. In addition to your
work on screen and behind the camera, Scout has been

(01:05):
actively writing her own screenplays. Oh boy, don't I know
what that's like, several of which are now in motion
to be greenlit. Wow. Wow, yeah, look at you.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm growing up, baby, Look at you go.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Screenplays, man, it's like the kids, they take over, you know.
There was a like I worked with a kid on
Three Wishes in ninety five. Yeah, and he played my son.
He was what eight or nine or something like that.
He turned out to like he invented digital money, oh
within video games and became insanely rich and on the

(01:46):
cover of Forbes. Not only it was like, you're following
the same path the kids grow up.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's also because we've had people in our lives I'm
sure you you know like that we were able to
look up to and admire be like, wow, look at
that person what they're able to accomplish. And I feel
like with my generation, at least for me, I feel
like I'm such a late bloomber. I should have been
doing this ten years ago, but right right now I'm

(02:14):
doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, there's more to tell.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, more more life, more life.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Like you know Laurie Strode Rob Zombie's Halloween films you
were in. It also started Halloween to the Runaways so
much more. Gilmore Girls fan recognize you as Dean's younger
sister Claria. Of course, all right, Scout, we're gonna talk
about this episode. Emily wins a weekend spa trip and
ask Laura La to join her for relaxing holiday. Meanwhile,

(02:42):
Rory received some unexpected visitors when she you know what,
very sort of like non eventful things happening in anybody's lives,
but for somehow the show makes it compelling. Right, Yeah,
A couple of people come over and study, and it's dinner.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And it's not like house.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sheila Lawrence directed at Amy Sherman Palatino, The Great One,
wrote it Emily and Laura. Emily been on a certificate
for a weekend at a spa and offers it to Laura.
Laurla shares her excitement about the offer, but then Emily
decides she will join her. Oh, make sure all of
her appointments all together. Are you surprised that Emily is

(03:26):
not a spa person.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
No, I'm not because it's very much like my mother.
This sort of dynamic reminds me so much of my
mom and I so my mom is not a small person.
And when this happened, I just thought of my own situation.
I was like, would I ever want to go to
a spa with my mother? No, because this is exactly

(03:52):
what would happen. It's like these two, these two women
doing the same thing. They're both trying to control the
situation and not wanting to admit that they're trying to
control the situation. Also, they're both looking for this love
from one another, but both are not wanting to admit
that there are looking for this love from one another.

(04:14):
It's it's like one of those dynamics.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Right, Emily's ulterior motive.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean to me, this episode, you know,
this episode's really about like how trauma shapes or defenses
or our defenses, you know, and like what might happen
if we actually let those guards down, even for a second.
So I think it's this episode's really important.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, very honest talk they had on the bed. Emily
was very vulnerable. Why can't we have the relationship you
have with Rory she's jealous.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Of Yeah, yeah, sad so too. The jealousy.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Well, it seems like Laurel is always trying to or
giving up with her mom. They you know, they tend
to sort of like come together and then she gives up.
Do you relate to that push pulled dynamic with family
at all? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yes, I do. I think I think I think.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
That's why I think most people do, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
And I think that's why Gilmore Girls was so powerful,
because it had all these layers of different dynamics with family,
the one that you're in that's messy or the one
that you like. At least for me, with Loralai and Rory,
I was always like, God, I want that. I hope
to be that with with my my child, you know.

(05:31):
But there's there's there's pros and cons in both of them,
I feel like. But I think that's what made Gilmore
Girls so special.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Here's a question. Would you are on the you know
your child? Would you err on the side of Emily
or on the side of Lorala and your relationship your
closeness to your child?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh man, you know I am. I don't have any kids,
but I teach a lot of kids, and a lot
of young adults grab towards me. I have a lot
of kids in my in my circle, especially that I
check on and you know, making sure that they're good,
how are they progressing? All this stuff. But there's there's
a happy medium, like being their friend, but also having structure.

(06:18):
I think structure is so fucking important, really important.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean, I was just seeing a situation the other
day where, you know, a kid was wanting to give
up baseball, and I was like, oh, I was like,
how many how many practices that they do?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Just one like you bought all the stuff. He's like, yeah,
but he doesn't want to do it. I'm like, they're pus,
You're gidding a little bit.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
You have to give them structure, a little bit of structure,
you know, make sure a happy medium.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I feel like right, structure is the thing that saves
people one hundred. If they don't have it, they crumble.
If they have it, they can hang on to that ladder. Yeah,
and they can go down or up as slowly as
quickly as they want, but at least.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
They have the option exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
That's what I try to give my boy.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
How are you as a dad? How are you? How
are you? What's what? Who are you? Who are you?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
You?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Lorli or Emily?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I'm both both? Yeah, yeah, I'm both. But it's like,
because he's so he doesn't need any discipline, I mean
very little. He's very self motivated. He's extremely smart, and
he's so hard working. He's got all of these characteristics

(07:40):
that I wanted him to have. And he's you know,
he's sensitive, and he's he's got a great heart. So
he doesn't need me to ride him. He just does stuff.
He knows what he is expected of him, and the
feedback that I get from his instructors, his teachers, you know,

(08:04):
he said camp now and his camp counselors and things
like that. Is it that he's such a well mattered, polite,
considerate young man and that that does me? I mean
that really hits me in the heart, you know, just
love hearing that. But it depends. I mean not every
kid is like that. I mean there are difficult kids too,

(08:26):
so then they need they need a whole different approach.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
You did that, though, isn't that incredible? Like you did
that well?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I mean, my wife and I did that. I think
I think a lot of it. And I read something
where you know, your influence, your parents influence over a
kid is minimal compared to their environment and their friends
and their friends friends and their friends parents. And they're
they're wiring how they're wired. They're they're predestined in some way,
and I I don't know. I think it's some lanes

(09:01):
of his life that's true to one other's not so much.
But anyway, Okay, So, so Emily got Lorelei in her
congining rooms at the hotel. At the couple's massages. That
was one of the funniest lines of the whole time.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
So good?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Like what mom? You know what people do after they
get like they book a massage together? Right?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh good?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But literally went over her head.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I love how she gets up and she gets on
an elbow and she's like, Mom, I gotta tell you something.
You know what people do after these things? Right?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I want to ask because I didn't really ever like
see this dynamic. How is their dynamic as actors together
those two?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Oh it's great. Yeah, very powerful, very very they're very friendly,
very close.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
No wonder, no wonder it shows.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh yeah, oh it's no, it's it's it's that's what
I miss so much about working with that cast. They
were all so good. Yeah, you know you really had
to come in with your a game where you were
going to get your luve handed to you. Oh yeah,
I mean it was just so great. I see, that's
the environment I love to be in. It's like, bring it,

(10:17):
let's see if you got it today. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
A lot of people are just like I feel like
a lot of these shows maybe just because there's so
there's so many it's just like a coasting. It's like
a coasting thing all around, not just like actors, but
like even even what the show is written even when
it's supposed to be. It just kind of just seems
like just doing like the bare minimum, you.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Know what I think has happened. And a friend of
mine brought this up to me. It's very interesting observation
about and certain people have stated this in interviews. So
it must be a thing, right, it must be an algorithm,
must be data that somebody somewhere is analyzing to make
shows where they can sort of be background noise. Yeah,

(11:03):
so it's not to ruffle anybody's feathers and not to
be so you know, a certain type of show, and
that not to challenge anybody, not to provoke in too
many ways, but background noise where people can have it
on and gain comfort from it. And it doesn't have

(11:24):
to be you know, the requirements aren't that, you know,
you really have to nail a performance or the writing
doesn't have to be great, and it doesn't even have
to make sense. Really, there can be huge logic holes
throughout the whole thing, but as long as it's comforting
right now, Gilmore never had that issue. I mean, every

(11:46):
once in a while there's a logic thing or whatever,
but it's so rare, right, it's so rare. Yeah, but
that had all of the elements. It's like a lot
of shows that imitate that show because there were a
lot of you know, copycat shows after Gilmore is that
they just don't have well.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
They don't have any d Yeah, clean herself, right, that's crazy.
Background noise, background noise.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's because we have too much distractions, because it literally
is that. I mean, could you imagine that. I'm just
going into Like as you were saying that, my mind
went to, you know, turning the TV guide and finding
out when the episode would air and having to be
in front of the TV to see that episode or
you'd miss it. Or then then now you have VHS

(12:37):
tape three, you can record it and what do you
know what I'm saying? Like everything she was so excited
to come together and like escape together. Now it's like
we're just like disassociating ourselves from one another.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
In our shows, right all right, So after the facial,
Anily sneaks into louralizing to chat about all the robes,
what's next on the our Tinneraries, which is a couples
of stash, which we talk about. After not being impressed
by the vegetarian memory. They go to a chop house.
It's kind of a nice steakhouse. Yeah, that was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
That was not that was not up her. Ally, she
was like and she's just mortified by everything, right, and
she kind of slowly started to like let her guard down,
which is really nice to see. I love it when
Emily lets her guard down. It's like the cutest thing
to watch, it really is.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right, So now she's getting eyeballed by Halandon. I think
that was hall Lindon. Hallandon was a big star in
the set of duc at his own shows and that
kind of thing. Yeah, he played a guy named Chad
and he invites them later to dance and she does.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
God, there's such a beautiful moment.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
It was.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It was really such a beautiful moment watching that. Even
even with them at the bar, you know, like they laugh,
they talk, it's almost like we were I don't know.
I was seeing a glimpse of the relationship that they
could have had if they both, like I said, let
their cards down. And then boom, it just like falls
apart again.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, hell, Lindon got a little close there with the
slow Dance number two and Emily freaked and left and
blamed Laura l I and said, I'm a how dare
you get me in this situation like this, I'm somebody's
wife and I can't do this? She was out there.

(14:31):
Can't blame her, right, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Mean, but what's so heartbreaking is, like, you know, Emily's
you know, she tries like her way of showing love
is deeply flawed. Sure, but it's like wrapped up in
this like expectations and this passive aggressiveness. But she does,
I mean, she does want a relationship with her daughter.
You can just see it so bad.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You can just yeah, you know, you think it's cheating
if you slow danced with a guy named Chaf.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
And then the guy's name is Chad, it's cheating, just kidding.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
So still Emily and Laura were, you know, they're finally
getting law. Something always goes wrong. That's the purity of
the relationship, that's the beauty of the writing.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, she's also like Laurla, you know understandably she's she's
still carrying a lot of scars, you know, from childhood
with her mom and her upbringing. I just recently did
a TV show and and the writer we we we
went to his family home and the script that he

(15:43):
wrote was kind of based on his family, and I
remember having a conversation with him. I was like, hey, like,
this is going to bring up some stuff, you know,
but you think you field those things until you're like
brought on these situations and you're like, oh, I actually
have not gotten over ABC and D and they come
out with glimpses you know, trauma.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, alright, let's go to Rory's Friday night. Paris shows up,
Panic study, and then another guest shows up, Jess.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Okay, Scott, can we just talk about Jess in Paris
having this surprising, like spark filled conversation about literature and
fast food. It was so good. It's such a good
and I thought, now that I watched it as like
an adult, I thought, wouldn't it have been interesting if

(16:40):
Paris and Jess ended up together?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Did they not?

Speaker 4 (16:46):
I know, all these people are like what na, but
they're dynamic with each other, killed each other. It's kind
of interesting, But sometimes you need that sort of that
sort of person.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
In your life, you know, I'm saying I thought I
thought their book Chat Is I don't know. I think
it was considered one of the best literature dialogue the series.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, it was a great piece of television. There's there's
no to bring these characters together like that. It was.
It was. It was wonderful to watch, and you want
more of it, right, you wanted? I was thinking, God,
this this is the spinoff. This should have been the spinoff.
You know, she should have been involved. I think Amy
just didn't want to lose too many you know, players
on her on her show to a spinoff, you know

(17:36):
what I mean. Okay, Paris was the obvious candidate. You know,
their chemistry is great.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
What was Amy like? I mean because I obviously dealt
with her as a young child, and she left such
a such a mark for me at that age.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
But I just I think she was so happy to
come on set and direct an episode to be with
Pete that she loved, who loved her back fiercely, who
she fought for to get those roles, and because she
was fighting so many battles, you know, off the court

(18:14):
as it were, she loved being in there and playing
with us because she knew that it was going to
be this wonderful, supportive, hysterically funny experience. Yeah, and she
did that four times a year. Or something like that.
And every time she came on set, it was just like,
you know, the level just went way out.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Everybody just was there every time I came to play, right,
really every time. And I mean I have pictures of
her and I like playing hacky Sack like it's so wild,
Like I remember her vividly.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, well, yeah, she's you can't forget her, you know,
she makes that impression. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, always
just there to make things better for everybody. You know,
a great listener, great friend.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
All right, so.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Just tells Ry that Luke sent him off to drop
food off because she was alone. Rory asked serious questions,
trying to finally used the lead. Yeah, and then stay
he ate. He sat down Laura. I request Lauria to
something bad while she's gone bikers and low lives. What

(19:36):
would you do if your parents left you alone? And
what did you do?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
And what did I do? My parents left me alone?
I probably did as much as Rory did. Unfortunately, I
lived in a mortuary, so not a lot of people
wanted to come over anything. So it was not because
I wanted to fold laundry just because I had dead
people downstairs. I really wanted to egg out at my

(20:03):
house at the Cemetery. So I went, and I I
would just watch my favorite show, which was the Sixth
Sense is that's Sixth Sense movie? And then well, uh,
I don't know. I was like a big like Rugrats
fan as a kid, okay, like all those Nickelodeon shows

(20:25):
and then ma Maury and then Jerry Springer gotcha.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah all right? So Paris drives all the way to
stars Hall from hard for to say with Riy Scout
what kind of high school or of roy or Paris
or maybe a Luise? What word?

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I was none of them. I was like a Jess.
I was very much a Jess, just like trying to
figure it out. Had a lot to a lot of
my past, and I was just trying to navigate. I
really wanted like people to like me, but I didn't
know how to. I didn't know how to do it.
And yeah, I was very much Jess. Sorry, Mom and Dad, No,

(21:05):
I was just too There's good things about being as
we figure it out, We figure it out. It just
takes as a bit of time.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, those days, all right. So he shows up, it's
clear that he wants to spend time with Rory, but
you know, is why does he always teases her about
wanting to be around him?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
You know, you know, well he's a little boy still,
you know, he's a little, little, little confused little boy.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
It's like you poke the girl at recess and that
you run away. His flirting is flirting. Chops weren't really
up to par but I mean they worked for they
worked for Rory. They were very endearing for sure. I
mean it's even like if you went back to the
beginning of the episode, even with like the the umbrella,

(22:01):
you know, going over like there's there's there's this like softness,
you know, that that tiny gesture that was like his
version of.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Affection, tending to her needs, anticipating that's what That's what
a good guy does with somebody who cares does and.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Rory saw it, she sees it. She's not you know,
she's not used to that. You know, there's so much
battle going between her and her and Dean. They're inner
dialogue is obviously like you know, they're they're slipping away
from one another. But yeah's relationship. You don't want to

(22:43):
identify yourself as separate.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
He's just blow Yeah, it's so paris is so excited
when Ry invites her to eat with them. Do you
feel sorry for parents? I do feel like I do too.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Here.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I did it when I first watched the show, But
now I'm like, yeah, I get it, Like I get it,
poor Paris. It's like this, It's like the same dynamic
that Jess has, just a little. It's just just different.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Her dad comes to her. Dad cancels a divorce when
he realizes how much is going to cost him, and
he allows his wife to redecorate the whole house.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
That house as a child.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's crazy house. That's not good. That's not good.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's like your reflection in your rearview mirror.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Is that concept that's not good, That's not going to
produce a happy child. Yeah, they say conflict, you know,
it is the thing that that that ruins a child,
the constant conflict. You know, you're always gonna have conflict.
But I mean it doesn't have to be Yeah at

(23:53):
that level. Jeez, When Roy Jess Parasy together, it seems
like they all get along so well. Do you do
you think that this would be it would be this
natural if it were Dean instead of Jess. What do
you think that that conversation between Dean and Paris would
either be non existence or very brief.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh, there would be no conversation. There would be no conversation.
Dean is so lost in his own mind. I don't
and and Rory Rory, Rory, Rory, Rory, Rory Rory. I
don't think that he would even be able to compute
anything else, you know, I mean, I do not remember
that relationship though, Scott, Like, when you're in that relationship,

(24:36):
it was like I eat and breathed this person, this person.
It's it's so tough. No, you were never I was.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I was.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I was a Dean at one point.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I was never a Dean. Jess uses the word chaperone.
Does he think he and Rory will do something of Paris?

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Wasn't there?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
You think he's got it on his mind? Yes, of course, of.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Course, of course he does. Would he do anything? Do
you think he would have?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I think if there was an opening and she was
okay with it, yes, So do you.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Think that she was emotionally cheating?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
She is? Yeah, Yeah, she's a kid. She's sixteen, can't
she's seventeen now, right, she's seventeen. Bourgeine right, expecting teenagers
to control themselves. I mean, come on, did you could
you control yourself?

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Cut? I?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh, I could not, lest we judge.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I just you know, I just wish that. I wish
that at that age we weren't so hard on ourselves
to like communicate easier. You know, like it should be
so easy to like communicate to like an opposite sex
or the same sex whatever, you know, just to be like,
I'm not into you anymore. This isn't working. Why is

(26:05):
that so hard to say? But why is that like
so difficult at that at that age in time feels
like forever.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
But Dean's a Dean's a good guy, right, Yeah, he's
a good, solid guy. Maybe not for her, but he's
a good, solid guy, decent, decent person.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, he's just like clutching to this version of Rory
that he you know, that he used to know the
girl who's like all the books and town festivals and
straight lighting plans. But now she's like, I don't know,
she's inching into this like complicated dynamic with Jess, and
she's becoming more independent and becoming more layered, and you know,

(26:51):
you can see your stepping into like the next chapter
of her life kind of thing, and I'm sure he
can see it too. Yeah, I see Deane's kind of
stuck at the starting line, is what it is. He's
just stuck at that starting line.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well, I think what Dean offers hers consistency throughout a lifetime. Yeah,
And there's really no unpredictability there whatsoever. I mean, what
you see is what you get, and there's something very
positive about that. But for her, I think she wants

(27:27):
to get wrecked. Yeah, because I think she understands. Because
she's so literate, you know that she she needs to
live an artistic life. And in order to live an
artistic life and to grow and to learn and to
add depth to her character and her soul, which craves disaster, right,

(27:51):
she craves it. But it's kind of what she's used to.
I think maybe she is deep down it's the only
way you can grow. It's like, learn the big lessons
from the big accidents. And the big accidents always feel
so good right now when they're working out, right, they're very,

(28:15):
very intoxicating. But I think what we didn't know back
then was that it's just all temporary and they're just
life lessons and it's just something you got to get
through and it's you know, kind of an aberration, but
you're on a certain path for sure. But the artistical
life is different. It's different. It's high risk, high reward,

(28:38):
you know, that kind of thing, but a lot of suffering.
I think true artists are attracted suffering, you know, the
real deal. If you're the real deal, you're going to
suffer a lot. That's going to be really good for
your art.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Man, I feel like you're talking to me, right, I
guess I like that don't know what it is. I
was like, oh shit, yeah, that's true. That's so true.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I mean like it all depends on who your literary
heroes are. Yeah, right, what you know what turned you
on at seventeen or sixteen? Who did you read? That
just blew your hair back and you were like, Wow,
I didn't know that was possible, you know. So I
think that all informs and I think Jess has gone

(29:31):
through it. Rory's going through it to an extent, right,
But I think she's drawn to that darkness. Yeah, she
knows that there's knowledge there, there's there are lessons there
that she would like to learn.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
So it makes it so compelling to watch.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Absolutely, no, there's no question there's no question. I love it.
I am sending you a digital tissue, thank you. But
it's so good.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
It's so good to like real that about yourself.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
That is. Yeah, I think Dean's frustration is warranted. This guy,
he's suffering like Luke. He suffers like Luke.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Oh my god, they are so similar, aren't they that?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Oh I never noticed that sitting around suffering. He's watching
Larele I, you know, go after Rory, go after other guys.
Are big core by other guys the way Luke has
had to watch. It's going to continue to watch Laurel. I.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
But those type of men just sit back and watch.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, you know, I you know, I have a reputation
of diner. You know I can't. I can't accept Oh yeah,
you know I can't. I have an excuse. I can
hide behind my diner, my reputation, all that.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I was literally going to just say, they give them excuse,
They give their inner dialogue excuses all the time. Yeah,
that diner man, that's right down.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I gotta go better. I gotta I goly man. Someone's
got to make the donuts. You know. No, I can't
mess around with you. I can't worry about you and
Max or you and whoever?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Did we ever see your kitchen?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, no, it didn't exist. There was no kitchen back there,
bags and bags of items there's there's just there was
no kitchen. There was a room back there. That's that's
where Robert Lee, our vaunted extra Robert Lee would hide out.

(31:36):
Really yeah. He would duck down and for cover and
then emerge. And that's also the place where Caesar got
much shorter. Yeah, because he started out kind of tall

(31:58):
and and then he got you know, he lost about
six inches or more.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh so funny.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, this is one of the first times we see
Paris stand up for Rory. Were you surprised?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Wait? I really think that we need an episode of
just watching your character cook in the back. I think
we all, for the whole, for the whole fandom, everybody
that loves the show. I think they would pay big
bucks they see you cook the meals that were that
were presented to the cast.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
You know, I got offered a show. I got offered
a show, not not where I would be cooking, but
there would be lots of kitchens.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah what oh yeah, yeah, and you have PTSD. You're like,
I need to turn this down, No more kitchens for me.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Now we're kind of waiting on approval.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh hell yeah, I'm so for it.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah right, I mean they never saw the kitchens in
seven years or twenty five years. If this show gets approved,
there's going to see another butt kitchens. Oh. I love it.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I love it for people want you to be babe.
That's it right there.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You know, hey, you know chain me to the stove man. Yeah,
I don't mind.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I love it. So have you evercovered for a friend
the way Paris did for Rory? I mean that was
quick thinking. Paris. It was my fault. Just came over
to see me. I have a crush on him, blah

(33:33):
blah blah.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Dude, I'm not that fast. I'm not that fast, Like
I really, that's something that I struggle with. I'm I
am so shocked and amazed by how people are so fat.
That's why I'm terrible with arguments. I'm like, just give me,
can you give me like ten minutes so I can
like out of my thoughts and then come back and

(33:56):
then I'll tell you what's going on. I'm just not
that good. I thought it was so I mean, obviously
out of the box. For her, and that was such
a nice moment to see for.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Her character doing something for somebody else.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Somebody else. Andy's face, though, I feel like she was
like shocked, but like not too shocked. I was like,
that's it. That was a that was a very shocking moment.
But I think a really a big stepping stone for
for those.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Two, right, huge, yeah, big moment.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Well, you know, Dean calms down after he hears this,
but I think he's still is smelling a rat a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Don't you hate?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Not hate?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Okay, that's a strong word, but those couples that argue
in front of people, that was literally what was happening.
I felt so bad for Paris and I was like,
first of all, Dean, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa? He was like, yeah, he was.
He was really bumed. You know, somebody that's six' four
needs to just, chill. Chill you, know they can't get
bigger or, louder and that's, scary you.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Know. Yeah, Yeah And rory handled herself very very well
in that situation as much as she. Could BUT i
really was very upset Being i'm sorry being being, sister
was very upset watching that, right that is not, Out
that is not what you.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Do and then now we go back To emily And.
Laurela theyre at the, hotel they're packing their. Stuff, emily you,
know pulled the plug on the whole thing after the
The chad Incident chad h And laurla, said maybe an

(35:52):
intense weekend together wasn't the best. Idea she's just starting
with something smaller like stealing a. Robe, Yeah emily. Agrees
Is emily being naive when she ask her why Her
LA i can have the same relationship With lord Lion.
Ry is that a question That emily would really, ask
wouldn't she? Know or is that her blind?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
SPOT i think it is her blind, spot poor, THING
i really. Do LIKE i, said, LIKE i just keep
on going back, to you, know my relationships THAT i
have with my. Family it's, like especially it's a generation,
thing right.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Too like.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Sometimes that generation just doesn't see what's right in front
of them or doesn't see their wrongs, either which makes
it very very. Difficult you, know this is.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
An interesting topic. Here, yeah WHEN i was growing, up
parents could trust, schools they could trust other, parents they
could trust, community they could trust the, cops they could
trust everybody to take care of the. Kids it really
was a. Community, yeah you, know it really really was a.

(37:10):
Village that doesn't happen. Anymore you can't trust anybody to do,
anything which is WHY i think. THIS i think it's
one of the reasons that it's not talked. ABOUT i
think that's why one of why this show resonates so
deeply is because it is reflecting the times so perfectly

(37:32):
and so honestly that, man you.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Can't you.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Can you can live inside of a bubble where everybody
trusts each other and they could raise your. Kid you
can trust. That but you go outside that, bubble, no
which is WHY i think the show is so. Popular
it continues to be so popular because it is a time.
Capsule that show is a time. Capsule that stars hollow

(38:00):
was not an uncommon reality in the sixties and you, know,
fifties sixties and part of the.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Seventies that's what even you describing, THAT i, mean even going,
back there's there's NO i think that Is you're exactly
right why this show is so. POPULAR i, mean even
even WHEN i was watching it as a, KID i
was like fantasizing about living. THERE i was, like how
great would that be to be in a community that

(38:30):
loves each other and takes care of one another and
a family that's like there for one, Another and you
know that's not really my. Dynamic so it's, yeah you're absolutely.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Right and they didn't need to be so. Close, yeah
but they. Were they were and they are because you
could Trust Ms. Patty you can Trust Kirk, WELL i
mean to an, extent you can, trust you can trust every.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Reason my, Dog i'm definitely trusted, to like walk my.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Dog but you could Trust. Luke you could even Trust. Jess,
yeah and you, know HE'S i think at the end
of the, day He's, yeah he's sort of a, rebel risky,
guy but he's NOT i don't think he's. Dangerous, No,
right he may be a little responsible here and, there
but he's not. Dangerous he's not intentionally. Dangerous he's. Not

(39:29):
he's dealing with some anger, issues but he's he's he's
he's not. Dangerous, yeah but THAT i think is the
power Of so, anyway are you surprised That luke was
not a part of sending over the, food Sending jess
over the, food or do you Think rory was charmed by?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
That you, know that that did take, me that that
did surprise. Me it did surprise me that.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
It was just.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Him but, then now knowing how he, Is i'm, like
should it have surprised?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Me, no.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Like that little kid poking and running. Away but he's
he's definitely very inserted, in like he inserts. HIMSELF i
mean you have to admire, that, right you think he's
a master.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Manipulator is just being?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
BOLD i don't, KNOW i don't.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
KNOW i think he LOVED i think he loves. HER
i think he thinks about. HER i think he loves.
HER i think he wants to be with, her and
he's playing it.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Cool but, man but to be that bold too, though
that's LIKE i don't Think i've ever gone to someone's,
house made up an excuse and then invited myself. In
that's amazing to have that, confidence you, know or TO i,
guess just to be that that entranced with.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Someone, well it's, literature, right it's like this, deep this
deep long mm. Hmm it's what you want to read about.
Exactly it's what you want to watch on the. Show
is what he's willing to do to get close to.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Her, yeah that's what you want in. Life m.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Hmm and who doesn't want to be pursued that?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Way, yeah that's, right, right that's.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Right and knows what he's, doing.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Which is interesting because because because your character might have
been able to learn a little bit from From. Jess
they just had a little pow wow at the diner
while you're cooking some. Food how do we get him
to fall in love with?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
US i don't know that that's.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Possible which's possible to.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Get a woman to fall in love with?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
You?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
No, no it's just.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
You, know they either just give up and settle or,
like all right, us so DON'T i?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Worse, hey my boxes at least ten are.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Checked it's like when they look at you like you're
not going. AWAY i. Knew, okay let's.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Go how did you and your your wife? MEET i
Was were you the? Pursuer?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Oh, YEAH.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I was.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
TEACHING i was very busy teaching. Acting m h and.
UH i was at a complex that at four, theaters
AND i was teaching downstairs. Theater one night she was
upstairs in another class AND i was upstairs before my
class started talking TO i had a couple of assistants

(42:49):
AND i was talking to them. Upstairs they were we
were seated and she just walked. By it was just
that you know, thing, wow locked eyes and like. HELLO
i didn't say a. Word but, then you, KNOW i
think the next WEEK i saw her outside during a
break and, uh you, know don't.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
You know it's in the, ass.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
You know, it that's. MINE i take a, ride probably
not seal.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
It i'll get a. Sidecar she was about to.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Light a cigarette AND i popped it out of her
mouth and flipped it into my. Own no, NOT i, was,
okay nobody's. Smoking that's just like it was all black and.
White oh my, GOD i love.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
IT i love.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
It tell me About diaries Of Morticians.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Daughter you, know it's been in development for a really
really long. TIME i first was like developing it obviously
because of my stories and my, bringing and you, KNOW
i think there's there's it's the story is kind of
about the dysfunction of, families which is really amazing and

(44:12):
obviously makes for a good Show Gilmore. Girls but then
it's also about the community that's around it as, well
which is kind of what you were, Saying AND i
just didn't really ever think of that With Gilmore, girls
but it, is it's like this own bubble that this
small man. Has AND i really am obsessed, with you know,

(44:35):
why a coming of age. STORIES i think so much
importance comes comes from those, stories especially for our. Kids you.
Know that's not like pushing the envelope like, euphoria.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
You, know and stuff like.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
That but, yeah So i'm hoping to make it A tv.
Show but While i've been, WAITING i just wrote the.
Book So i'm about to launch the. Book oh, gosh, yeah,
right which is pretty much just the first season wrapped
up in a little bow. Tie BUT i just tossed
into the universe and to soak someone like reels it.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
In, Right.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
So let's talk about your horror. Experiences you're known for
your roles in. Horrors is this your favorite genre to act?

Speaker 2 (45:25):
In is it my favorite genre to act? IN i,
MEAN i guess it's like it's familiar, territory. Right it's
like it's like you With. Luke it's, like you, know
it's very. FAMILIAR i know. IT i CAN i can
do it in my. SLEEP i know, it you, know
backwards and, forwards SO i can always like jump into.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
It is it my?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
FAVORITE i don't, Know I'M I i feel Like i'm
discovering new elements of myself right. NOW i just started
directing the last two, years and even with, THAT i
am from WHERE i started to WHERE i am right.
Now it's like vastly. Different and it's because there's these

(46:14):
growing pains That i'm doing with myself and discovering myself
as a you, know it's a mid thirty year old.
Woman i'm just like really enjoying finding my. Voice and
it's the first time That i've been able to find
my voice and not hide behind a. Character AND i

(46:35):
think horror obviously helped me a lot with my. TRAUMA
i think being able to like let that sort of
fear and that sort of energy come, out you know
what horror brings, OUT i think definitely helped me in

(46:55):
that time in my. Life BUT i, mean it's ALWAYS
i love it so. Much it's always such a really
great genre to go back to and be a part.
Of But i'm discovering other.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Things it's quite a. Voice thank god you found. It keep,
talking thanks keep, writing keep. Doing it's a it's a
gift to all of.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Us.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Uh and you're gonna have to come. Back, unfortunately you're
gonna have to come. BACK i wish because there's so
much more to unpack here with. You we didn't even
get to you, know very many of the, questions but
there's so many more, questions and you're going to answer.
THEM i will hold your feet to the. FIRE i love.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
It, No i'll definitely come. BACK i have to have
you on my podcast.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Too oh, yeah, yeah let me. Know let's let me.
Know all of us appreciate, you appreciate the time and the.
Insights always it's always a blessed to see A scout
Tailor coompton and, remember best fans on the. Planet where
you're to, lead we will. Follow stay safe everyone.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Dot, everybody and don't forget.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Follow us On instagram AT I am All in podcast
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