July 21, 2025 • 24 mins
I Am All In producers Emma Marken and Jackie Rodriguez join Scott to recap Season 2 E12 “Richard in Stars Hollow” with Scott.
Jackie and Emma question if Richard’s behavior could be blamed on a big generational gap?
Plus, a theory from Scott about Richard and Lorelai’s relationship that gave us a big lightbulb moment!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again.
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Hello, let's just do.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I am all in again with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast, one
of them productions iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast Episode twelve, season two,
and I am here with the one and only and
two of the most amazing producers that I've had the
privilege to work with. We've got Emma Mark and Jackie
(00:49):
Rodriguez on with us today. Hello ladies, Hello, Hi Scott,
how you Dylan. These are first time go More watchers themselves,
so we're going to recap Richard and stars Hollow. First
of all, I just have one question. What's it like
working at iHeart Isn't it? Is it great?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Like I mean, I've hopped onto this working with or
I popped onto Gilmore girls, like coming in, My watch
is all distorted. I came into season three when I
started producing for you on the first rewatch and then
but I came in already watching a Year in the
Life but never watching the series. So now my watch
(01:30):
is season one and two is my first time, so
I'm not caught up to where I picked up when
I first was employed by iHeart so I'm all out
of sink. But it's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I Gilma Girls is such a great universe, so.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Am I You're you're kind of the new blood over here.
But man, you hit the ground running. What's it been
like for you?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's been fun.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean watching TV for work it doesn't feel like work,
and working with amazing people like yourself, it's the best
job in the world.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Can be blush. How do you even deal with that?
Scott Patterson, He's a pain?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh my god, it's the best.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You're You're pretty great to work with, Scott, So, I
mean yeah, Like I've worked with Sam Rubin, who passed
away last year for ten years and so, and we've
run into each other when I was working for him
like once or twice. But this is like a long
time ago. So but yeah, I have that compared to so,
you're pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh thanks. I always say yes. I like to say yes, yes, yes,
I enjoy that word. I don't like no. Have I
ever said no? Maybe? Once?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, I have said no no, And but I like
the yeses. I try to stand in the yes column.
Richard is making Emily crazy, so Laurala agrees to take
her father for a day and stars Hollow, where he
proceeds to annoy both Laura Lai and Rory. Directed by
Steve Gohmer and written by Frank Lombardi. Richard is driving
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Emily crazy. Now so much time on his hand, she
wants to get him off her hands, so she insists
that Laurlai take him for the day. And after a
day of Richard following Lourai through her routine, she is
beyond annoyed, and Richard's unsolicited opinions on her coffee and
take business decisions and where Rory should go to college
(03:19):
have got her blood boiling. Lauralai's frustrated confronts her father
said she has this is the last time he will
come into her house and overrule her word, her world,
and her word. Richard admits he knew Emily aster to
invite him. A poor Richard, and he feels like an
annoyance his wife and a burden of his daughter. He
leaves before having dinner. Ladies, how would you handle your
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parents following you around for a day? What would that
be like?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I actually have had this happen to me, so, like
I've mentioned before, I worked for a live show in
LA called Katie La, and my parents would come visit
me in LA because they don't live in this area,
and they followed me for the morning show, and everybody
was always so nice, and my parents are my dad
is not like Richard, so it's like, my parents are
so nice and just happy to be there. And they
(04:10):
actually met a few celebrities while they're, you know, following
me around the morning show, and I didn't mind them.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
So I have no relate. I can relate in a
little bit, but not in the way that Laurlai gets annoyed.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Emma, what about you parents all over you?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean, since this job is remote in some aspects,
I can work from home and my mom loves to
do stuff while I work, which doesn't really make any sense.
But seeing Richard with Lorelai is so cute. It breaks
my heart that Laurla I was so anxiousy towards having
him around because he's just like, he just wants to
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take care of the girls. Rory's only granddaughter, Laura's his
only daughter, so it's like watching it breaks my heart,
but then having it, having the hovering is quite annoying, I.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Would say, and I think he mean it with like
good intention, and Laurel's taking it with bad intention, like, oh,
he's trying to boss me, He's trying to rule over
me like he did when I was younger. I think
he just means it with well intention and wants to help.
So I think that's another thing too, is like she
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
As I watched this episode, I was like, I was
really sort of team Laurel I on this. Ah. I
kept saying to myself, where that guy really puts a
dick and Richard doesn't he with her dad? I mean, guys,
was he overstepping come on?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I think yes he was, but not with bad intentions.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, I think intensions were. I think they meant well.
And I have a grandfather that acts similar similarly to Richard,
and I think if it was me it would be annoying.
But I understand what my grandfather's doing, and so I kind.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Of that's your grandfather, that's not your father. That's different, right.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh yeah, I guess I was thinking about Yeah, yeah,
I mean Richard.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Did Richard seem like a little bit like he was
on his high horse and he wouldn't get off and
he wasn't like reading the room at all, and it
wasn't respecting his daughter.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And I agree on that. Yeah, I agree, it's like
read the room.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
But some sometimes grandfathers are kind of or they're stuck
in their ways.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yes, that's what the boomer generation.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
They're kind of like see it as one way and
they don't see it as another way.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Like it's like, you.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Gotta do it this way. This is the way.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I've been dealing with it for fifty years, and they
don't they don't change their mind.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So yeah, boomers do know their stuff, though, I gotta tee.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Are you a boomer?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I'm afraid I there you go.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'm a millennial is what what are you gen z?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So you got three different generations?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, if you all just listen to me.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You'll exactly okay, Richard, Oh god.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You'll just do fine. So great, hang on, And I
know that's annoying. Do you feel you feel a little
bad for Richard? You get some empathy for Richard?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, it was it was a bit He's I've never
seen him. He seemed a little pathetic. I mean it
was just like it was it was almost uncomfortable to
watch at times, right, was it?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yes? I wish.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, Joss retired and so he has no idea what
to do with his time. He's been working for the
last fifty years of his life.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
He just retired.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's like he needs at least a week to figure
out his new hobbies.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, the whole time, I was saying, get your butt
to the golf course. You joined a swank country club,
Go hang out there, Go play golf, Go play cards,
go smoke cigars with the fellas.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Maybe he wanted maybe he wanted to spend more time
with Emily and Lorli and c Stars Hollow because he
hasn't ever before. So I was testing the waters.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I can relate to this because my is he'll be
seventy this year and he just retired in twenty eighteen.
And I remember at that time my mom was like,
he's always around. He's just you know, like he's buzzing
around and doesn't know what to do with himself because
he's been a mechanic his whole life. And I got
on the phone my dad yesterday because I was like,
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how did you really feel about retiring? And he said
it took three to four years for him to settle
down and now he like goes has coffee with his
friends and he does housework. They've updated some things in
the house and he's more of like upkeeping the house,
I guess, than but it took him a while. He said,
I was buzzing around for three four years trying to
figure out what to do. And I was like, well
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that's something. So I felt bad for Richard and that
kind of changed my perspective of how Laura La handled it.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
You know, he's such a large but the thing is
he's such a large, imposing figure. I mean he's six
foot four and he's you know, he ain't skinny, yeah,
and it's just a lot of person to deal with,
you know, sort of you know, opining on your entire life.
Maybe if it was he was smaller.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, easier to take and that's probably annoying what he's
used to. And that's why him and Lorelai were like
going at it, because it's like he walks into a
room and it's his presence and he's the big man,
and that's the guy you look up to. And with Lorela,
she's like, no, I'm the boss at the Independence in
this is the way I do my business is the
way I raise my child. So I think that is
(09:29):
why they're budding heads.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Right, But I think it's a case of arrested development
in their relationship. He's seeing her still maybe as a
high school or a sixteen year old before she screwed up,
and he still has lessons to teach. He did you
know all that. You know, sixteen years have gone by,
seventeen years have gone by that he didn't get to
participate in. So he's sort of, you know, it's a
knee jerk reaction. It's a reflexive, reflective, reflexive action. Easy
(09:56):
for me to say towards his own daughter. Anyway, Let's
go to Franklin. Paris is determined to have the child
and paper when the Oppenheimer plaque and believes writing a
story uncovering the dark truth behind small town life and
Stars Hollow is the key. After she doesn't find the
hidden secrets she's looking for, she is sparked by the
newly established censorship in the DVD store. Rory is then
(10:20):
named Stars Hollow Citizen of the Month. This is kind
of kind of hilarious because of a suggestion to move
inappropriate DVDs away from children, something she's not proud of
all right. So Jess appears at the video store when
Rory sees her Citizen of the Month plaque and her
picture plasted up there, and she's almost unrecognizable. You know,
(10:43):
it's a picture that we haven't seen of her before.
What do you think about how he maneuvers around to
see her. It's like Jess is always popping up, adn'tey?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, I mean a teenage boy in a small town.
He probably hasn't made too many friends at school because
he's kind of a jerk, and he has a girl
in mind, so he's just gonna kind of mess with
her and just all her around. And then I mean,
this is my first time watching, so maybe Rory then
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falls in love with him.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Mmmmmm who knows.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
No spoiler alerts for Emma. And it's funny I thought
Jess popping around. I mean there's nobody much. I'm from
a small town of like seven thousand people, so like
there's nobody much to talk to. So when you do
like somebody, you kind of fixate on them, and so
I think that's what Jess is doing. He really likes her,
He you know, like connects with her intellectually, and with
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books and everything. So I think he just kind of
like fixates on her and probably he's a spy watching
on the side something.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So what are stars Hollow best dark secrets? The bar?
The secret bar? Well? What what what they had? What
dark secrets are there?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Not in our land?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
No, not stars Hollow, like it's our fantasy land of
like a wonderful small town.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Let me tell you secret bar, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
In real small towns, there are some secrets. Like my
little small town, there's some stuff going on, but we
want to keep it pristine. We want to keep stars
Hollow this land where we go and everybody knows your
name type of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So you know small historic towns like stars Hollow, right,
that were involved in the American Revolution, and there's usually
some lore, there's ghost stories, there's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Has it?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Gilmore Girls episode ever explored those areas of you know,
a town's mythic lore and their past and you know,
based on a real character came over on the Mayflower.
But he had several children.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm trying to remember, like do they have they have
a I can't recall do they have a festival?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Later?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And it explains the origins of Stars Hollow. I forget,
but I don't remember there ever being ghost.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Stories about it.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I think I think it needs only once this, it
needs some ghost stories.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, that is again.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I hope they. I hope they have ghost stories.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And do like a Halloween festival.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And Taylor like, oh yeah, portraying like the ghost and
the main ghost and who's gonna be the main ghost?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
That'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
How do we feel about Dean and Rory? At this
point things are getting a little tense. He finishes building
the car right, and Richard does not approve. He just
steps up and suppoils the party. You know, half of
me agrees with him. The other half was like, d
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, I asked my dad too, because these are retired
mechanic He rebuilt a nineteen seventy super Sports cheval like
all souped up, and I was like, what would you
do if your granddaughters came to you? And he said,
I would look under the hood. But I'm sure he
knows what he's doing. I'm like, well, that's not what
Richard did, so I agree with him halfway.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Same like you want.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Your granddaughter to be safe, but also It's like it
was a little obsessive that he was making Gypsy go
over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But I like that scene between Richard and Deancuse. Richard.
Dean really showed some stones, you know, and it's like,
I'm gonna stand up to you. I'm not gonna take
this anymore. But man, he really goes noodly over Rory,
doesn't He he can't handle. He can't handle Jess. I say,
just unleash the beast, Dean. If you want to pound,
just into the turf and just end it, do it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right, you know, Like he's putting all on Rory, which
is really unfair.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
And that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Stop with the whining and unleash.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Well, I don't like your system.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Man, he's asking for it.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
He's six'. Four how how tall is my levent to
media at this point Like, Richard, yeah they made fun of.
It they made fun of, me, like, yeah that's All
dean Was.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
After they had their, conversation he, like look and goes,
hot all are?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You it was.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Good it was a nice to See richard And dean
because they started off so horribly at that dinner when
he was grilling him about his future so it was
nice for them to kind of hash it out and
be on even playing, field you, know, Like, okay we
both Love, rory this is what we're. Doing but, YES
i don't Like dean at this point because.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Gifts, OKAY i.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Have two opinions BECAUSE i watched the episode. Twice so
the first TIME i watched the, EPISODE i thought That
richard was overstepping AND i like That dean stood up
for himself in the gift that he Got. Rory but
then WHEN i watched the second, TIME i was so
Pro richard the whole. Episode Watching dean speak To, RICHARD
i thought that was so. Rude he's an adult and
(15:54):
It's rory's, Grandfather SO i didn't really like the way
That dean was speaking To. Richard Maybe i'm just getting
more annoyed With dean AS i watched these, episodes.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
As people, do and that's what happens in the next.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Episode and NOW i don't understand why people say Team,
dean AND i understand why people say Team.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Jess so it's like we were, learning like.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
BECAUSE i never knew Team dean, before and we're learning
that the fall of their. Relationship i've seen How jess
is stepping.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
In, yeah not to get ahead of. Ourselves, boy they
really roast him in the next. Episode, man yes they.
Do maybe he'd like to talk to my mom about.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
IT i, don't, right, Right it's like all.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Right so closing, Scene richard comes home To emily in
a fantastic mood after having a day to. Herself he
tells her that he had a lovely day With laureline
and he goes to sit in a study all by,
him poor Little lonchem and his nice shiny. Chair, yeah poor.
Guy why do you Think richard lied To?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Emily he didn't want to burst her, Bubble like you,
know he already feels like a, burden you, know Like
i'm an annoyance to my wife and burden to my.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Daughter that line killed, me AND i.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Was, like, oh you, Know and it's like he's entering
a different stage in his. Life AND i, think like
it's good THAT i love that the writers explore this as,
well because it's, like, oh he just retired than. Whatever
but there's so much like layers To emily And, richard
AND i like seeing this layer of him because you
always see him in such a powerful, presence and SO
i like that we're seeing him kind of, like you,
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know like.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Sad you, KNOW i think.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
He's got a REAL i think that moment is so
fraught because it's about sixteen lost years that he Didn't
it's like his parenting days are. Over so he's trying
to parent somebody that left the fold sixteen years probably
now he's trying to parent her. Child that's not. Appropriate
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his function as a grandfather is to be super, supportive super,
positive and to provide joy and gifts and you, know
some sage wisdom when called, upon but not to push
himself on, people, RIGHT i, mean who wants a grandfather like?
That you, know just like in, everybody sometimes.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You don't know what you don't?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Know and, RIGHT i, think BUT i think that, moment
sitting in a study alone encapsulates that maybe he that's
the beginning of the, Realizations, like, MAN i really as a,
FATHER i really missed?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Out yeah, yeah, yeah what DID i?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Do?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Is what DID i do wrong as a, father Because
i'm really screwing it up as a grandfather? Today you.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Know, yeah my grandfather passed away WHEN i was like,
eleven and the other one passed away WHEN i was like,
Four SO i don't, know Like, emma do you is
your grandfather like that at all with?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You, yeah my GRANDFATHER i. Had both of them are
very very helpful unsolicited advice always and sometimes it can
be too, much but a lot of the times it's
nice AND i didn't KNOW i needed, it so.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that's such a good point.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Too it's like he missed out on all those years
and so when it comes back into her. LIFE i
mean they Use rory as like making up, time wanting
to be over, involved AND i mean that's the crux
of the whole series, anyways which is so cool to,
explore but it's like it is.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Sad it is sad because he's like.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Trying to Boss Laura lie around and then him And
emily are over involved In rory's. Life but it makes
for a good dynamic and a good.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Show but, well you, Know i'll tell you a thing about.
Boomers you, know we know when people are going off the,
path and it's it's our choice to decide whether to
get try to get him back on and say well watch.
Out and that's just based on, experience, yes.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And respect for our elders.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Too it's like you guys have way more Like i'll
be forty, soon and it's like you got twenty thirty
more years experience than. Me so it should be. Respectful
And dean should have been more. Respectful AND i Think
rory And, loreley, Well rory is respectful to her. GRANDFATHER
i Think LAURA i should have been a little more
respectful and.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Empathetic speaking of retirement one at a, time, girls what
do you think retirement's going to look like for each
one of?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
You, OH i haven't even thought about. That it's got a.
JOB i mean for, You, Scott.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, no, no, yes all, above, yes, yes, yes you nailed. It.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Golf want to just finish my hot cup of coffee
because right NOW i have a two year old AND
i could never finish my hot cup of coffee and sit.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
On you're, avoiding you're, Avoiding. Emma what's it look like for?
You what's what's retirement look like for?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You retirement looks like for? Anyone or like travel there
you go?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Travel my dad loves a.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Lot my mom's not retired, yet but my, dad my
dad always goes To. Mexico we have family down there and,
stuff so like he spends a lot of time with
my Cousin.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Julio so he he goes To. Mexico, oh and he
goes on these month long hunting. Trips he's a. Hunter
so it's, like, okay So i'm trying to, think, well
what WOULD i want to. DO i would. TRAVEL i
would just travel and spend time with my. Grandkids you.
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Tastey of behind the scenes because we're normally like on
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Job so, well thank, You well you do great job
Hosting Scott and.
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(00:49):
Rodriguez on with us today. Hello ladies, Hello, Hi Scott,
how you Dylan. These are first time go More watchers themselves,
so we're going to recap Richard and stars Hollow. First
of all, I just have one question. What's it like
working at iHeart Isn't it? Is it great?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Like I mean, I've hopped onto this working with or
I popped onto Gilmore girls, like coming in, My watch
is all distorted. I came into season three when I
started producing for you on the first rewatch and then
but I came in already watching a Year in the
Life but never watching the series. So now my watch
(01:30):
is season one and two is my first time, so
I'm not caught up to where I picked up when
I first was employed by iHeart so I'm all out
of sink. But it's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I Gilma Girls is such a great universe, so.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Am I You're you're kind of the new blood over here.
But man, you hit the ground running. What's it been
like for you?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's been fun.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean watching TV for work it doesn't feel like work,
and working with amazing people like yourself, it's the best
job in the world.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Can be blush. How do you even deal with that?
Scott Patterson, He's a pain?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh my god, it's the best.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You're You're pretty great to work with, Scott, So, I
mean yeah, Like I've worked with Sam Rubin, who passed
away last year for ten years and so, and we've
run into each other when I was working for him
like once or twice. But this is like a long
time ago. So but yeah, I have that compared to so,
you're pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh thanks. I always say yes. I like to say yes, yes, yes,
I enjoy that word. I don't like no. Have I
ever said no? Maybe? Once?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, I have said no no, And but I like
the yeses. I try to stand in the yes column.
Richard is making Emily crazy, so Laurala agrees to take
her father for a day and stars Hollow, where he
proceeds to annoy both Laura Lai and Rory. Directed by
Steve Gohmer and written by Frank Lombardi. Richard is driving
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Emily crazy. Now so much time on his hand, she
wants to get him off her hands, so she insists
that Laurlai take him for the day. And after a
day of Richard following Lourai through her routine, she is
beyond annoyed, and Richard's unsolicited opinions on her coffee and
take business decisions and where Rory should go to college
(03:19):
have got her blood boiling. Lauralai's frustrated confronts her father
said she has this is the last time he will
come into her house and overrule her word, her world,
and her word. Richard admits he knew Emily aster to
invite him. A poor Richard, and he feels like an
annoyance his wife and a burden of his daughter. He
leaves before having dinner. Ladies, how would you handle your
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parents following you around for a day? What would that
be like?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I actually have had this happen to me, so, like
I've mentioned before, I worked for a live show in
LA called Katie La, and my parents would come visit
me in LA because they don't live in this area,
and they followed me for the morning show, and everybody
was always so nice, and my parents are my dad
is not like Richard, so it's like, my parents are
so nice and just happy to be there. And they
(04:10):
actually met a few celebrities while they're, you know, following
me around the morning show, and I didn't mind them.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
So I have no relate. I can relate in a
little bit, but not in the way that Laurlai gets annoyed.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Emma, what about you parents all over you?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean, since this job is remote in some aspects,
I can work from home and my mom loves to
do stuff while I work, which doesn't really make any sense.
But seeing Richard with Lorelai is so cute. It breaks
my heart that Laurla I was so anxiousy towards having
him around because he's just like, he just wants to
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take care of the girls. Rory's only granddaughter, Laura's his
only daughter, so it's like watching it breaks my heart,
but then having it, having the hovering is quite annoying, I.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Would say, and I think he mean it with like
good intention, and Laurel's taking it with bad intention, like, oh,
he's trying to boss me, He's trying to rule over
me like he did when I was younger. I think
he just means it with well intention and wants to help.
So I think that's another thing too, is like she
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
As I watched this episode, I was like, I was
really sort of team Laurel I on this. Ah. I
kept saying to myself, where that guy really puts a
dick and Richard doesn't he with her dad? I mean, guys,
was he overstepping come on?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I think yes he was, but not with bad intentions.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, I think intensions were. I think they meant well.
And I have a grandfather that acts similar similarly to Richard,
and I think if it was me it would be annoying.
But I understand what my grandfather's doing, and so I kind.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Of that's your grandfather, that's not your father. That's different, right.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh yeah, I guess I was thinking about Yeah, yeah,
I mean Richard.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Did Richard seem like a little bit like he was
on his high horse and he wouldn't get off and
he wasn't like reading the room at all, and it
wasn't respecting his daughter.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And I agree on that. Yeah, I agree, it's like
read the room.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
But some sometimes grandfathers are kind of or they're stuck
in their ways.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yes, that's what the boomer generation.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
They're kind of like see it as one way and
they don't see it as another way.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Like it's like, you.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Gotta do it this way. This is the way.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I've been dealing with it for fifty years, and they
don't they don't change their mind.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So yeah, boomers do know their stuff, though, I gotta tee.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Are you a boomer?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I'm afraid I there you go.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'm a millennial is what what are you gen z?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So you got three different generations?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, if you all just listen to me.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You'll exactly okay, Richard, Oh god.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You'll just do fine. So great, hang on, And I
know that's annoying. Do you feel you feel a little
bad for Richard? You get some empathy for Richard?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, it was it was a bit He's I've never
seen him. He seemed a little pathetic. I mean it
was just like it was it was almost uncomfortable to
watch at times, right, was it?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yes? I wish.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, Joss retired and so he has no idea what
to do with his time. He's been working for the
last fifty years of his life.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
He just retired.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's like he needs at least a week to figure
out his new hobbies.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, the whole time, I was saying, get your butt
to the golf course. You joined a swank country club,
Go hang out there, Go play golf, Go play cards,
go smoke cigars with the fellas.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Maybe he wanted maybe he wanted to spend more time
with Emily and Lorli and c Stars Hollow because he
hasn't ever before. So I was testing the waters.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I can relate to this because my is he'll be
seventy this year and he just retired in twenty eighteen.
And I remember at that time my mom was like,
he's always around. He's just you know, like he's buzzing
around and doesn't know what to do with himself because
he's been a mechanic his whole life. And I got
on the phone my dad yesterday because I was like,
(08:18):
how did you really feel about retiring? And he said
it took three to four years for him to settle
down and now he like goes has coffee with his
friends and he does housework. They've updated some things in
the house and he's more of like upkeeping the house,
I guess, than but it took him a while. He said,
I was buzzing around for three four years trying to
figure out what to do. And I was like, well
(08:40):
that's something. So I felt bad for Richard and that
kind of changed my perspective of how Laura La handled it.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
You know, he's such a large but the thing is
he's such a large, imposing figure. I mean he's six
foot four and he's you know, he ain't skinny, yeah,
and it's just a lot of person to deal with,
you know, sort of you know, opining on your entire life.
Maybe if it was he was smaller.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, easier to take and that's probably annoying what he's
used to. And that's why him and Lorelai were like
going at it, because it's like he walks into a
room and it's his presence and he's the big man,
and that's the guy you look up to. And with Lorela,
she's like, no, I'm the boss at the Independence in
this is the way I do my business is the
way I raise my child. So I think that is
(09:29):
why they're budding heads.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Right, But I think it's a case of arrested development
in their relationship. He's seeing her still maybe as a
high school or a sixteen year old before she screwed up,
and he still has lessons to teach. He did you
know all that. You know, sixteen years have gone by,
seventeen years have gone by that he didn't get to
participate in. So he's sort of, you know, it's a
knee jerk reaction. It's a reflexive, reflective, reflexive action. Easy
(09:56):
for me to say towards his own daughter. Anyway, Let's
go to Franklin. Paris is determined to have the child
and paper when the Oppenheimer plaque and believes writing a
story uncovering the dark truth behind small town life and
Stars Hollow is the key. After she doesn't find the
hidden secrets she's looking for, she is sparked by the
newly established censorship in the DVD store. Rory is then
(10:20):
named Stars Hollow Citizen of the Month. This is kind
of kind of hilarious because of a suggestion to move
inappropriate DVDs away from children, something she's not proud of
all right. So Jess appears at the video store when
Rory sees her Citizen of the Month plaque and her
picture plasted up there, and she's almost unrecognizable. You know,
(10:43):
it's a picture that we haven't seen of her before.
What do you think about how he maneuvers around to
see her. It's like Jess is always popping up, adn'tey?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, I mean a teenage boy in a small town.
He probably hasn't made too many friends at school because
he's kind of a jerk, and he has a girl
in mind, so he's just gonna kind of mess with
her and just all her around. And then I mean,
this is my first time watching, so maybe Rory then
(11:17):
falls in love with him.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Mmmmmm who knows.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
No spoiler alerts for Emma. And it's funny I thought
Jess popping around. I mean there's nobody much. I'm from
a small town of like seven thousand people, so like
there's nobody much to talk to. So when you do
like somebody, you kind of fixate on them, and so
I think that's what Jess is doing. He really likes her,
He you know, like connects with her intellectually, and with
(11:45):
books and everything. So I think he just kind of
like fixates on her and probably he's a spy watching
on the side something.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So what are stars Hollow best dark secrets? The bar?
The secret bar? Well? What what what they had? What
dark secrets are there?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Not in our land?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
No, not stars Hollow, like it's our fantasy land of
like a wonderful small town.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Let me tell you secret bar, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
In real small towns, there are some secrets. Like my
little small town, there's some stuff going on, but we
want to keep it pristine. We want to keep stars
Hollow this land where we go and everybody knows your
name type of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So you know small historic towns like stars Hollow, right,
that were involved in the American Revolution, and there's usually
some lore, there's ghost stories, there's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Has it?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Gilmore Girls episode ever explored those areas of you know,
a town's mythic lore and their past and you know,
based on a real character came over on the Mayflower.
But he had several children.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm trying to remember, like do they have they have
a I can't recall do they have a festival?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Later?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And it explains the origins of Stars Hollow. I forget,
but I don't remember there ever being ghost.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Stories about it.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I think I think it needs only once this, it
needs some ghost stories.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, that is again.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I hope they. I hope they have ghost stories.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And do like a Halloween festival.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And Taylor like, oh yeah, portraying like the ghost and
the main ghost and who's gonna be the main ghost?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
That'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
How do we feel about Dean and Rory? At this
point things are getting a little tense. He finishes building
the car right, and Richard does not approve. He just
steps up and suppoils the party. You know, half of
me agrees with him. The other half was like, d
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, I asked my dad too, because these are retired
mechanic He rebuilt a nineteen seventy super Sports cheval like
all souped up, and I was like, what would you
do if your granddaughters came to you? And he said,
I would look under the hood. But I'm sure he
knows what he's doing. I'm like, well, that's not what
Richard did, so I agree with him halfway.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Same like you want.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Your granddaughter to be safe, but also It's like it
was a little obsessive that he was making Gypsy go
over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But I like that scene between Richard and Deancuse. Richard.
Dean really showed some stones, you know, and it's like,
I'm gonna stand up to you. I'm not gonna take
this anymore. But man, he really goes noodly over Rory,
doesn't He he can't handle. He can't handle Jess. I say,
just unleash the beast, Dean. If you want to pound,
just into the turf and just end it, do it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right, you know, Like he's putting all on Rory, which
is really unfair.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
And that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Stop with the whining and unleash.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Well, I don't like your system.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Man, he's asking for it.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
He's six'. Four how how tall is my levent to
media at this point Like, Richard, yeah they made fun of.
It they made fun of, me, like, yeah that's All
dean Was.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
After they had their, conversation he, like look and goes,
hot all are?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You it was.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Good it was a nice to See richard And dean
because they started off so horribly at that dinner when
he was grilling him about his future so it was
nice for them to kind of hash it out and
be on even playing, field you, know, Like, okay we
both Love, rory this is what we're. Doing but, YES
i don't Like dean at this point because.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Gifts, OKAY i.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Have two opinions BECAUSE i watched the episode. Twice so
the first TIME i watched the, EPISODE i thought That
richard was overstepping AND i like That dean stood up
for himself in the gift that he Got. Rory but
then WHEN i watched the second, TIME i was so
Pro richard the whole. Episode Watching dean speak To, RICHARD
i thought that was so. Rude he's an adult and
(15:54):
It's rory's, Grandfather SO i didn't really like the way
That dean was speaking To. Richard Maybe i'm just getting
more annoyed With dean AS i watched these, episodes.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
As people, do and that's what happens in the next.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Episode and NOW i don't understand why people say Team,
dean AND i understand why people say Team.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Jess so it's like we were, learning like.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
BECAUSE i never knew Team dean, before and we're learning
that the fall of their. Relationship i've seen How jess
is stepping.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
In, yeah not to get ahead of. Ourselves, boy they
really roast him in the next. Episode, man yes they.
Do maybe he'd like to talk to my mom about.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
IT i, don't, right, Right it's like all.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Right so closing, Scene richard comes home To emily in
a fantastic mood after having a day to. Herself he
tells her that he had a lovely day With laureline
and he goes to sit in a study all by,
him poor Little lonchem and his nice shiny. Chair, yeah poor.
Guy why do you Think richard lied To?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Emily he didn't want to burst her, Bubble like you,
know he already feels like a, burden you, know Like
i'm an annoyance to my wife and burden to my.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Daughter that line killed, me AND i.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Was, like, oh you, Know and it's like he's entering
a different stage in his. Life AND i, think like
it's good THAT i love that the writers explore this as,
well because it's, like, oh he just retired than. Whatever
but there's so much like layers To emily And, richard
AND i like seeing this layer of him because you
always see him in such a powerful, presence and SO
i like that we're seeing him kind of, like you,
(17:29):
know like.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Sad you, KNOW i think.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
He's got a REAL i think that moment is so
fraught because it's about sixteen lost years that he Didn't
it's like his parenting days are. Over so he's trying
to parent somebody that left the fold sixteen years probably
now he's trying to parent her. Child that's not. Appropriate
(17:55):
his function as a grandfather is to be super, supportive super,
positive and to provide joy and gifts and you, know
some sage wisdom when called, upon but not to push
himself on, people, RIGHT i, mean who wants a grandfather like?
That you, know just like in, everybody sometimes.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You don't know what you don't?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Know and, RIGHT i, think BUT i think that, moment
sitting in a study alone encapsulates that maybe he that's
the beginning of the, Realizations, like, MAN i really as a,
FATHER i really missed?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Out yeah, yeah, yeah what DID i?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Do?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Is what DID i do wrong as a, father Because
i'm really screwing it up as a grandfather? Today you.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Know, yeah my grandfather passed away WHEN i was like,
eleven and the other one passed away WHEN i was like,
Four SO i don't, know Like, emma do you is
your grandfather like that at all with?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You, yeah my GRANDFATHER i. Had both of them are
very very helpful unsolicited advice always and sometimes it can
be too, much but a lot of the times it's
nice AND i didn't KNOW i needed, it so.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that's such a good point.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Too it's like he missed out on all those years
and so when it comes back into her. LIFE i
mean they Use rory as like making up, time wanting
to be over, involved AND i mean that's the crux
of the whole series, anyways which is so cool to,
explore but it's like it is.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Sad it is sad because he's like.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Trying to Boss Laura lie around and then him And
emily are over involved In rory's. Life but it makes
for a good dynamic and a good.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Show but, well you, Know i'll tell you a thing about.
Boomers you, know we know when people are going off the,
path and it's it's our choice to decide whether to
get try to get him back on and say well watch.
Out and that's just based on, experience, yes.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And respect for our elders.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Too it's like you guys have way more Like i'll
be forty, soon and it's like you got twenty thirty
more years experience than. Me so it should be. Respectful
And dean should have been more. Respectful AND i Think
rory And, loreley, Well rory is respectful to her. GRANDFATHER
i Think LAURA i should have been a little more
respectful and.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Empathetic speaking of retirement one at a, time, girls what
do you think retirement's going to look like for each
one of?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
You, OH i haven't even thought about. That it's got a.
JOB i mean for, You, Scott.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, no, no, yes all, above, yes, yes, yes you nailed. It.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Golf want to just finish my hot cup of coffee
because right NOW i have a two year old AND
i could never finish my hot cup of coffee and sit.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
On you're, avoiding you're, Avoiding. Emma what's it look like for?
You what's what's retirement look like for?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You retirement looks like for? Anyone or like travel there
you go?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Travel my dad loves a.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Lot my mom's not retired, yet but my, dad my
dad always goes To. Mexico we have family down there and,
stuff so like he spends a lot of time with
my Cousin.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Julio so he he goes To. Mexico, oh and he
goes on these month long hunting. Trips he's a. Hunter
so it's, like, okay So i'm trying to, think, well
what WOULD i want to. DO i would. TRAVEL i
would just travel and spend time with my. Grandkids you.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Know, yeah all, Right well, LISTEN i think we've answered
a lot of questions and the audience got to know
you too a little. BIT i get to work with
you all the. Time now they get a little little.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Tastey of behind the scenes because we're normally like on
The instagram, Pages i'm the one who's, replying by the, way.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
To this is literally the best Job i've ever. Had
you guys make it really. Easy you work so hard
and everything's ready to rock and. ROLL i don't think
people understand what it takes to produce one of these,
episodes but it's it ain't it ain't, easy and you
do a great.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Job so, well thank, You well you do great job
Hosting Scott and.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Look i'm just trying to keep keep up with you. Guys,
really that's that's All i'm.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Doing what's so cool, though it's like This Gilmore universe
is so, Huge Like i'm a Major friends, fan like,
MAJOR i have so much merch and all. That BUT
i didn't know there was another universe that was like like,
that and It's gilmore. Girls and UNTIL i got this,
JOB i was, like oh my, Gosh NOW i get.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
IT i get.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It and and As i'm watching for the first, Time i'm,
LIKE i want to watch another. Episode so it's it's
cool to experience it and to see and to be
part of it and now to be like knee deep in.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
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Speaker 1 (22:35):
Is we'll keep it going and keep it. Ladies and you,
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