October 20, 2025 • 38 mins
I Am All In Producers Emma and Jackie are back to recap Season 3 premiere with Scott!
We dive into Rory’s love triangle, does she really NEED Dean? Is she emotionally cheating on him?
Plus, Scott breaks down what it was like filming one of the most emotional scenes between Luke and Lorelai.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again. Let's you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, one
of them productions iHeart Radio Media, I Heart Podcasts. We
are doing a very very very special breakdown of season three,
episode one, which is entitled Those Lazy, Hazy Crazy Days.
Air date September twenty four, two thousand and two. I
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am joined by some incredibly gifted, illustrious individuals. Jacqueline Rodriguez,
you know, or you look cal State Fullerton the Fighting Titans.
Are they the Titans?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yes, they get that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I got that right. I just pulled that right out a.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Tusk up because our mascot is an elephant.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
There you go. Of course it is. Of course it is.
And the luminous Emma market from Colorado State Boulder or
University of Colorado Boulder. They're fighting. Bison's over there there.
She has.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
She's been with.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
iHeart since she was about four years old, and now
she is what are you sixteen?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Seventeen years old? Now a good twenty four twenty four,
not even a quarter century's She's just one of the
new kids on the block and hitting it out of
the park here. Also, these two ladies are killing it
behind the scenes and in front of the camera. They're
doing a gazette with Amy and Danielle as you know
them and love them.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's because Danielle's on maternity leaves. So that's why I,
me and Emma hopped in there.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You go, all right, nice little tidbit, all right. Synopsis
Rory returns from an internship in Washington to deal with
conflict over Dina. Jess Lorelai questions her future when she
learns that Christopher's girlfriend is pregnant. Written and directed by
the one and only Amy Sherman Peladino. Let's let's just
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kick this off, all right. Rory as confused as ever,
and and it seems like the summer away she was
thinking of Jess the whole time. Jacqueline, what are your
thoughts on this this opening sequence of the show.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I mean, she knew that Jess was, you know, on
her mind because she freaked out by missing her graduation
and all that. So I think she did it in
a way where it was too harsh, but I understand
her intentions.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think she went kind of hard to Rory.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
About it, like she was a little Emily on her,
didn't she Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
There you go, Yes, because she's like, you gotta make
a decision. I feel like her own insecurity about making
a decision with like Christopher and like what just happened
to her. She was bringing that out to Rory in
that fight that they had, because Rory was looking for
Jess and returning back from Washington c she wanted to
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go to the festival, and then she seem Jess making
out with that girl. I mean, so awkward for Jess
and that actress. It's a lot of making out, but yes.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's a lot of making it. I wonder if they
enjoyed it. Did they look like they were enjoying it?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
There was such a sure he did. He's a young boy.
I'm sure he did.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Was she turning around with the camera going she's really
more hitting me anyway? It seems that Rory's heart and
mind are fighting each other to make a choice. Emma,
how would you reconcile that this decision if you have
ever experienced anything like this in your brief sixteen years
on the planet, it's tough.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I think trial and error, and you know, being supported
by people is the most important, and you know right now,
it seems like the blind is leading the blind, with
Laura like kind of telling her what decision to make,
Like she can't even make a decision herself. And I
feel like it's just something that you got to do
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and feel on your own. And it's definitely tough seeing
you know, Dean write all those letters to her and
all she wants to do is write to Jess. I mean,
it's wrong in my opinion what she's doing because she's
emotionally cheating on him and she kiss Jess. What she
has to do is kind of face the truth and face,
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you know, admit to herself. I don't think she's done
any self reflection as to like what she wants. She's
starting to get there.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Listen, guys, all you young guys out there listening. The brooding,
good looking guy who doesn't care is going to get
all the the girls. He will.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, it's a game.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It's like it's a game. And then that flips later
in life when people mature, then that guy seems ridiculous
and you know, I think they're the real guy they
get like like Dean is far too mature for Rory.
There's there's a real disparity here, because Dean is the
ideal guy for somebody who's late twenties, thirties, that's a
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full blown adult who's open and honest and I love you,
and it's just like it's not going to work with
a sixteen year old girl. Well she's seventeen. L Yeah,
it's not gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, he's the reliable one.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
But that's but that's a part of growing up, is
like doing you know, being with the bad guy, being
with the nice guy, and then getting that like healthy
relationship later on and starting a family.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well yeah, you think that's a rite of passage for
all uh all teenage girls, is they're all drawn, that's
all of them are drawn to that bad boy. Yes, yeah,
well a pretty pretty good percentage, I guess.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah for sure, Like because you know, we all
kind of want that something we can't have, but we
don't realize we can't have it until like it's too late,
where it's like, oh, well I just screwed this up,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So hang in there, guys. Life isn't fair as a
teenager if you're a good dude. But it bounces out,
it'll bounce out.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
For it, it will, it will you'll grow up to
be a great father and partner.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It's almost as if like the bad guys win early
on at life and then unless they figure it out,
then they kind of hit that downslope. And the people
that have just been waiting for their niceness to be
accepted then like take off in their late twenties thirties.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's it. Lorela hasn't told her parents all summer about
Christopher and his dalliances with Sherry. Is her avoidance a
form of denying it ever happened? That's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yes, yes, Professor Patterson, I believe. So it's like she's
almost she's avoiding it telling something to your parents and
avoiding it, like because you don't want to admit the truth.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Like I think that's in anything you do in your life.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And with this back and forth relationship that they've had,
she knows Laura.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I knows that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They've always had this ideal Emily and Richard have always
had this ideal for Laurai and so like, oh, Christopher
and Rory and Laura Lai and just the regular family unit,
because that's the traditional values that they grew up on.
And so I think she knows and she's avoiding it
because she doesn't want to tell them because she secretly
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wishes that could work out, But she also doesn't want.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
To disappoint them and give them another thing to like
attack her on. So totally, I totally think that is well.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Emily and Richard lose it. I mean they really lose
it when they hear the news about Shelley's pregnancy. Is
if there's dreams for Lauraai and Chrisper have been shattered
all over again, why won't they ever let go of
their disappointment with with with Laura? I Emma, what is
going on with these two? They just want to bludgeon
her every time they see her.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
They have this picturesque family image for Laurai because it
was the way that they raised her, tempted to and
so it seems like it's just a generational difference that
they're going through. And it's a bummer because it's like,
how do you get through to different generations like parents
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and grandparents when the world has evolved and morals have
changed and you're just a different person, Like, how do
you get through to them that this isn't you? So
I feel like it's just always a battle that she'll
deal with with Emily maybe, Richard.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, that's like the crux of the show though, you know,
that's what a good TV show is, and the relationships
and all that. If we didn't have that battle, then
we wouldn't have Gilmore Girls. So but it's a real
thing that a lot of people can relate to, is
you know, having these discussions with your parents or grandparents,
and you know, like different values being passed on, but
then these values change as we get older and we evolve.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Em what's you think of the opening Laurela has this
dream alarm clocks Luke cooking breakfast. She's pregnant with their child.
What what do you think of that opening?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It completely threw me for a loop for a second,
Like I was just watching and then I had to
reverse and I like audibly gasped, and there's no way
that they just kissed right there. But it was so
cute to see.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You too in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm just like you guys agree, and it was it
was a nice little preview of what's to come later.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Obviously we know we've all seen it already.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
This is second go around, but it's like Luke does
make her breakfast in her kitchen. So it was a
nice little preview. It was like throwing a little like here,
you can have a bite of this amazing bread, but
we're going to take it back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It was it was really nice.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I did notice he was piling up the bacon there
on her plate. She's a bacon eater, isn't she. I
love I love the bacon off a suki plate. You
finished with that, so she piled up the bacon on
that plate.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I know nothing like bacon in the morning.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That's really.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And coffee that's really.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Quite dangerous when you're on the road and there's that
buffet at the hotel and they've got like, you know,
they've got a barrel filled with crispy bacon.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, oven baked or on the stove, well.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I think both stove. Then throw it in the oven
and crisp it up.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's my bacon order is a little more demanding.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah you got you got a lot of time in
the morning's.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Huh No, I don't. That's why I want it done
for me. Man, there you go. You know I need
a look too. So she finally walks back and it
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looks to have a cup of coffee after Friday night dinner. She's,
you know, she's a little bummed out obviously, so she
just says screw it and walks in, and Luke, you know,
kind of lets her sit. She starts to vent and
cry about Christopher puts him in a very awkward situation
where it's like, lady, I don't really care about this,
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but I care about you, so I'm going to listen anyway.
And she cries about not having that whole package when
it comes to love and partnership. Luke insists she will
have it, so they kind of officially made up. What
I remember filming about the scene is I love playing
these scenes because I don't say much, but the character
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says so much with not saying any thing, and how
he moves, how he listens, this kind of thing. That's
the type of acting I really love.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It was so good, Like this is one of my
favorite scenes between you two because when you guys do,
it's like an unspoken truth between you two and your words.
As Luke, you don't need many words to give support,
you don't need many words to let her know, hey
I'm here, Like you're listening intently, like fully.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
They're both in their natural states. Him the monosyllabic diner
guy monosyllabic.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
No, I don't know, that's.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
How she describes him when she's joking around and teasing him,
that's that's right, But that's how that's how she describes him.
That's how he's described, you know. And but there and
listening and engage connected to her, you know. I mean
he's responding physically to everything she's saying. So he's actively
listening and that's the kind of stuff I love to do.
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And she's fully herself too, feeling completely comfortable talking about
another man and another love of it in her life,
her baby daddy or her baby husband almost right. And
he's just listening and being a friend, reacting the way
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he reacts, and like, boy, this could be me, And
I don't know if I want this to be me.
You know, I love this girl, but it just yeah,
fraught with tension. This scene just yes and two characters
being one percent themselves m exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
It definitely felt like, out of whatever else was going
on in the episode, it definitely felt like the most
real and attention grabbing scene because I felt like it
was something that everyone could relate to. Just being so
vulnerable and asking for help because you just don't know
what to do or how to feel, and just being
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able to like vent, cry and let it out and
have someone just listen or just like their presence just
means so much and it adds to making you feel better.
So it's just so special and relatable.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, because whenever in real life, whenever you're going through
like something really hard, people always ask what can I
do to help, and it's always like just be here.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Just listen and don't comment. You just you just need
to get it out.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, And that's and the way that they shot it.
I noticed that, like I was going to say, beautiful, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And then Luke's Luke's presence is like right in the
back and it's like he's always there, He's got her back.
And then it's like on Laura life and I'm just like, oh,
that that's great.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That's that's that filmic language that Amy knows so well.
And she directed this so it's like where it's you
know the question of answering the question where do I
put the camera? M I mean she answered it with
her It was just beautifully directed seeing.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, and it's always sad seeing Laura life so down
because you normally don't. She normally is like saying jokes
to kind of cope, and here she was just straight
up vulnerable. And we've all had these moments in our
life where it's like, what am I doing? Am I
ever gonna have it? I was single personally for a
long time before I you know, I'm with my partner
Eddie and we have a kid, but like in my thirties,
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I was single majority of the time. So seeing this
really brought me back to like when all my friends
were getting married when I was thirty five. They were
They're all, you know, having kids, you know, in my
mid thirties, and I was like, I'm still single here,
like what's going on?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And I broke my.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Heart to watch Laura I say that about herself because
it's like I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Right, And how can Luke be How can Luke stay
mad at her? Once she's in there trusting him and
just unloading everything and feeling so comfortable to do this
with him. She's not going to do it with anybody else. No,
she's not going to do it with Rory. She's not
going to do it with Emily Richard, who else is
she she she might do it with Suki, right, I
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mean you could argue that she would You think she
would be that vulnerable with Suki. She would be I
would think.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, but it just she wants a different reaction
and response. And that's when it makes it even sweeter
that she went to Luke for it, Like she didn't
just need a cup of coffee, she needed his warm
hug of silence and staring at her.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And don't it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But I think too with Suki, it's like she just
got married, so you don't want to like burst her bubble,
and like I remember feeling this way. I'm so happy
for you, you know, for your friends who are getting married,
who have found the love and all that, and then
you reflect back on your own you're like, Okay, what
about me. You don't want to burst. You don't want
to put that on a newly married person. So I
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think that's why she kind of went in.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
When Suki and Jackson were like raging at each other
the entire episode, right, it's like, really not the person
you want to go to at that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, such a beautiful scene between you two, and it's
just like I just tilted my head kind of watching
It's like, oh, it felt like a warm hug because
you guys are you know, made up, and so it
was good.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That was really really a nice scene.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
One.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
It is one of my favorites. I'll have to remember this.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, and you can tell when it's Amy Sherman Paladino's writing.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Like with the Paladino's writing.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It it feels like it feels more genuine, realistic, like
it's coming from something that they've experienced or they know
that people have experienced.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh, it just it just tears your heart apart.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's good writing.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
They have that gift. Yeah, and that's why you don't
need to do so much when you're acting those words.
You just pretty much stand there and let those words
express themselves. Even hearing those words and it just sort
of comes out in your body, you know, the exact
body moves a certain way. It's just responding to these words.
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How could they not, right, It's just it's magic, It's
actual magic.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
When you were filming these scenes with Lauren, did you
feel proud of the lines and the body language, like
could you feel it or was it just all natural
for you.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Both proud and feeling great about the scene and great
about the words you get to say. Listen, you know,
we come to the set or the night before preparing
the stuff, and we come to set prepare the stuff
these scenes, and it's just there's an ease to it
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because the writing is so good and the rhythm is
so good and the music is so sweet, and you
get to say this stuff and it's in the writing.
You you know, the the vulnerability and the tenderness that
is underneath what Luke is doing but not showing, is
in the language. It's in the words, it's in the situation,
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in the scene because of what she's saying and how
he's responding. So that's what instructs you. And you know,
I just miss it so much. The writing is so good.
You don't get this level of writing. You just don't see.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's it's the tenderness.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I like that, the tenderness of it, because the whole
show is talking fast, and then when you have these
moments are slowing down, it really hits, it really hits,
and so that's what makes it just real. It's like wow,
it's really impactful on screen.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It's remarkable. It's just remarkable. To be able to and
that was my every day. That was my normal going
to work, to be doing that level of we're attempting
that level of work to as good as the words
are right, to not screw up the words because the
words are perfect. Right. That's the situation you want to
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be and where you have to rise up every day,
every moment of every day, of every scene to be
as good as the writing is. And man, that was fun. Yeah,
that's great.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Did any scenes or writing in particular like leave you
feeling heavy like it may have taken you a second
to snap out and film a different scene. Did that
ever kind of happen to you? Or were you able
just to always be acting and then turn it off
turn it back on?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Oh yeah, like when you and Loura get in that
fight over Jess and the car accident. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well I think that was the last scene of the
day because it was night time. It's pretty late at night,
I think, so that was it. We get to go
home after that. Let me see, was there a time?
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think in the recent memory the h don't Leave
Me seen in the episodes right, the Netflix episodes, Oh
big long speech, which.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Oh that's amazing. Oh I love watching that.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Sceint so Yeah, that that took a lot out of
me and I needed I needed to take a knee
and towel off and have some gatorad after that one.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know how you nailed that.
That was amazing. That scene is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But that's but that's what I'm talking about. It's it's
walking out into the colisseum and you know, facing off
against your opponent and the lions coming at you and
and surviving and thriving, and it's just so damn stimulating
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to be in that kind of creative situation. I mean,
it's what it's all about. It's what I trained for
all those years, and it was just it's just exhilarating.
When you have writers that gifted and you're doing their words,
it's an absolute privilege because it doesn't happen a lot,
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you know. Yeah, I mean, if you can get to
the top of the business somehow, then you're exposed to
the great writing, you know, And this was one of
those situations where you know, we were all exposed to
this great writing. Yeah, and we all got very lucky.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Let me tell you, well, it's the legacy of it too.
Twenty five years later, here we are, it's.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Still the biggest thing ever, you know, and so right,
it's what brought us here.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, just it's it's nice to know you didn't screw
it up totally, right, I got away with it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I was recently thinking a lot about Sean Gunn because
there's just been so many interviews resurfacing of him, and
particularly in this episode, I was just starting to notice
kirkmore who I Kirk in Paris are my favorite characters
besides Luke and Lorlai. And how he the best way
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he could just describe Kirk was that he is just
a manchild. And now that's something that I just can't
get out of my head. And I just have like
the biggest soft spot for him and all of his antics,
like his lotions that he was trying to make, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
God, brilliant, brilliant stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
And he's someone that got lucky in terms of, you know,
showing up to be the DSL guy and Amy Sherman
Paladino wanted to be back. It's like, it's just it's
just amazing to see how everything just fell into place.
And I was thinking about how you were supposed to
be Duke and it's.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Just special that not supposed to be a woman.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
That's right. Where did you come from?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Duke? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It was a typo on the on the audition when
I had the two scenes to audition, and I only
did one because it said Luke and the other one
said Duke. Who's a typo or something?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And you were only supposed to be there for one
episode and then it turned it down moor right.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Just just a flukee kind of thing. But anyway, Seawann
and I do these panels. They'd usually do a Saturday
panel or a Sunday panel and the fans come into
this massive ballroom or massive hall seated with seats and
Galaxy Con Raleigh. There were twenty five hundred people showed
up for that.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And you know, Sean and I are like the the
you know, the Laurel and Hardy of the concert. Somehow
it always turns into a comedy show.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Ah, that's so great.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's just brilliant. We work. We play off of each
other so well. Yea. So if you're listening and you're
in the Saint Louis area or neighboring states, come see
us because just if just for the panel, because it's
really a fun time. It's like an hour of just hilarity.
I don't know what it is about Sean, well I
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do know what it is about Sean, but he just
brings out this side of me, and I bring out
a side of him. And it's just really fun to work,
you know, to be up there and just sort of
chat with him and respond to audience questions and it's
just it's just so much fun.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
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Speaker 1 (25:41):
Let's get to the closing scene. Laurla comes home to
apologize worry about the Dean versus Jess fight at the
festival in the beginning, and Roy says she was right.
She chooses Dean and she is sure of it, although
she kind of doesn't seem like it. No denying her
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true feelings for Jess. It's going to be the safe option.
Knowing how much Roy's experienced back and forth love with
her parents, is she choosing Dean? Because she needs someone
reliable Jacqueline.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Duh, duh. It's like she doesn't want to be her mother,
and so I mean, and that's in a way of that. Now,
I'm not saying like Laura is such a bad person
or somebody don't want to turn out to be like,
but Laura's love choices and stuff are pretty questionable until Luke.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Obviously, because he's a stable one. But yeah, she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
She has already experienced it back and forth with her parents,
Christopher and Lauralai, so she doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
To, you know what, nothing rupt But you know what
it is about these Gilmore girls. Yeah, they're so a beautiful,
they're so smart, they're so snarky, they're so clever, they're
so quick, they're so cultured. Right that guy's just melt
and they lose it and they're just each of them
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looking for someone who isn't losing it all over the
place and turning them off. They want a guy to
hold their hold their own m hm, like stop it
with all the the roses and I love you, I
love you, you know it's like just hold it together, man,
would you? That's what they want. And I think that's
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why Luke works because he's not getting all gushy and mushy. Ever,
mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You really need somebody the opposite.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
To match you, to match your strength. These are strong women.
These are strong women. I mean Rory's a strong She's
she's getting stronger all the time, right, but she's innately strong.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, and they just they no room for whims. Sorry, guys,
what's out? They're done out.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
But they're also choosing those kind of guys.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Too, Yeah, because they came off really cool and collected
and very you know, they all were James Bond the beginning,
they turned into they don't realize James O'Keefe at the end.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
It's interesting to me though, how someone reliable like Rory's seventeen,
she doesn't need someone right now. That's where I'm like
toggling with why does she need to choose one of them?
Why does she need to be with Dean. I think
she's partially scared of it because she doesn't want to
(28:34):
face the truth or break as hard or have the
town ask her questions. Like, there's so many elements and
I think right now, with maybe just me being young
and relating to a younger woman, like what she's she's
just confused. She doesn't need Dean or someone reliable. She's
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just meeting people and understanding life.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Right, she doesn't know what she needs, yeah, just defining
it right, right.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I mean she still doesn't know in the revivals, which
would be like the continuation and like you can do
more with Rory definitely for sure after the revivals. Yeah,
it's true she's young, she doesn't Yeah, you're right, Emma,
she doesn't need him. But I think she has a
lot writing on herself because I'm writing on her shoulders,
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because she is the golden child of the town. She
can't go for Jess because he's the bad boy. You know,
he deems a good on paper guy.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Yeah, it's almost like he's resumeable, like she's doing to
fit the image for who she wants to be. And
it's just mind blowing because I'm twenty four and I
just got my first boyfriend, like I I didn't. It's
just weird how it was the standards twenty five years
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ago or date and create, but it's like now they're not. Now.
It's all about finding yourself and what you're good at
and becoming independent. So it's just weird to now, like
watch this series and see how she's seventeen.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
She's so young, right, right, you know what, I just
thought of a spin off for you know, or be
centered in Luke's diner, and it'll just be like me
and Max and Digger and it'll be entitled Surviving Laurela.
It'll all be waiting for her to come into the
(30:31):
diner and she never does, but we prep for right
and Digger comes by, and Max comes by.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You know, no Christopher though, because we just kicked him out.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
There's a sign no you're not welcome here.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It's no cell phones, no Christopher.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's not nice. He's got it both in the corner,
all waiting for him.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
You know, do you think those characters would have things
to talk about other than Larela.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Let's find out Surviving Laurel I ah, and.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Then they all become best friends.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I don't know, because they're also different.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
They're also different because Max, like is intellectual with books
and everything, and I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Actually, like if Loralai was removed, would they all be friends?
Because I feel like they all have that underlying angst
because she's there.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It could be like, you know, waiting for Goodell. It's
like like the Samuel Beckett version of Gilmore Girls, Right,
everybody's waiting around for Laurela. She never shows up. Yeah. Anyway,
well my brain hurts from thinking.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It was such a good episode. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Let's just stick a fork in this one.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Uh where'd this rank on? Your guys?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Is like premiere like episodes because you know this, yeah,
like out of the series.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Like we've redefined what podcasting is today, We've done the
three of Us. This is this is the new standard,
right right?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, I like this premiere episode though, like it was,
it was it was good.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Oh you're talking about the show.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I was no, not us, No, no, the show Season three,
episode one.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
The show was entertaining, very well written, beautifully directed. Yeah.
I had every It had everything you want in a
Gilmour episode. It had a festival, It had some good
Tailor stuff. It had some good Michelle stuff, It had
some good had good parents and Rory stuff, and had
all kinds of it had good Luke and Laurelized stuff,
(32:36):
had good Suki Laurelized Suki Jackson stuff with the bear
and the thing, and I mean it was just it
was it was chock full of good stuff man. Good balance.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, it was a good balance for a premiere episode.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I think so right, very good. All right, well,
thank you ladies for filling in. We we had a
guest who uh unfortunately couldn't join us, and Emma and
miss Jacqueline here decided to just come in feet first
(33:10):
into the fire, into the pit and look what they did.
They hit it out of the park. Thanks so thank
you so much ladies for saving this episode and making
it as great as anything we've ever done. And remember
you are the best fans on the planet. And can
we talk a little bit about the recent cons that
(33:31):
I just came from.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Fans Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yes, you know, excited and for the twenty fifth anniversary.
This is so great. The fans showed up in Brighton, Michigan,
and in New Milford, Connecticut in waves, I mean just waves,
hundreds and thousands of them. And they're also excited and engaged.
It's the most lit fan base. I mean, there can't
(33:57):
be a more stimulated and lit up fan base than this.
They are so thrilled to celebrate this.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
They're so thrilled to meet you, Scott.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, I'm thrilled to meet them like.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Every single photo that because I help run the Instagram page,
I'm reposting, and then the dots on the stories are
so little because everybody's so excited to meet you and
they have.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
These like it was my dream come true.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm just like, it is so sweet to see everybody
just love you and you take the time to actually
engage with them, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Listen. We had a break in New Milford, right, So
instead of having the typical lunch and at the location,
we went into town and we went into this old
time sort of saloon bar with a pool table and
a dart board, and so we ordered some food, we're
playing darts, were playing pool, and we're the only ones
(34:50):
in there because everybody was out doing the Gilmour Festival
activities and that kind of thing. And this group of
two moms and six like thirteen years old girls just
walked in. They saw me land darts, right, and I
just turned around and looked at him and they go,
oh my god, we love you. And they came and
(35:12):
they played darts, so IF and we and so I
had my handlers there and they said please, no, don't
film this and don't take any pictures. And they were
a little disappointed with that, but so if I want
to say, I wanted to say this to support these
girls and their moms who came in as they're telling
the story and if nobody believes them. It happened so
(35:35):
sweet it happened, and we had to wait a ball.
And one girl was so nervous that she was even
in this situation, like, you know, they're playing darts with Luke.
It's like maybe a new thing. Who knows it could
be a real And she says, she, I don't know
if she played darts before, but she was missing the
entire board and like sticking it into the wall and
the furniture and the whole. It was so cute. It
(35:59):
was really fun.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I noticed a huge, big blanket that somebody made for you.
It looked incredible.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
It's being FedEx to me right now. Wow, it was
too big to fit in my luggage.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Hours and hours and hours that they spent. Shout out
to that fan whoever she is.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
She was gray, And I'm telling you they gave me
so many gifts because it was my birthday and New Milford.
I traveled on my birthday and I worked the next day.
The next three days and they're so generous. I mean
just handing me gift after gift after gift after gift.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, stuff getting through TSA with all that stuff, I
had a lot of spain to do. Right, what's going on, bro,
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I mean you must walk away from those events like
so happy because you are receiving energy, right, the energy
you bring to people, You are receiving so much love.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's not timing, it's time. The thing that wears out
is a travel, you know, the connecting flights and all that.
It's it's not the fans. They give you the energy, man. Yeah,
it's like I showed up on the twelfth just exhausted,
and then they you know, they start, you know, releasing
the lines and then the people come and you know,
you get energized from me. Yeah, it's it's it's wonderful experience.
(37:11):
It really is great meeting these fans. Anyway, Thank you, ladies,
best fans on the planet. And keep the cards and
letters coming. We'll see at the cons wherever we are,
bangor Maine gonna be mid mid November, I think bangor
Maine Queen City Comic Con. So come on out and
see us there too, and remember where you lead, we
will follow.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Stay safe everyone, Hey.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Everybody, and don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at i
Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at
iHeartRadio dot com
I am all in again. Let's you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, one
of them productions iHeart Radio Media, I Heart Podcasts. We
are doing a very very very special breakdown of season three,
episode one, which is entitled Those Lazy, Hazy Crazy Days.
Air date September twenty four, two thousand and two. I
(00:44):
am joined by some incredibly gifted, illustrious individuals. Jacqueline Rodriguez,
you know, or you look cal State Fullerton the Fighting Titans.
Are they the Titans?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yes, they get that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I got that right. I just pulled that right out a.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Tusk up because our mascot is an elephant.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
There you go. Of course it is. Of course it is.
And the luminous Emma market from Colorado State Boulder or
University of Colorado Boulder. They're fighting. Bison's over there there.
She has.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
She's been with.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
iHeart since she was about four years old, and now
she is what are you sixteen?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Seventeen years old? Now a good twenty four twenty four,
not even a quarter century's She's just one of the
new kids on the block and hitting it out of
the park here. Also, these two ladies are killing it
behind the scenes and in front of the camera. They're
doing a gazette with Amy and Danielle as you know
them and love them.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's because Danielle's on maternity leaves. So that's why I,
me and Emma hopped in there.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You go, all right, nice little tidbit, all right. Synopsis
Rory returns from an internship in Washington to deal with
conflict over Dina. Jess Lorelai questions her future when she
learns that Christopher's girlfriend is pregnant. Written and directed by
the one and only Amy Sherman Peladino. Let's let's just
(02:13):
kick this off, all right. Rory as confused as ever,
and and it seems like the summer away she was
thinking of Jess the whole time. Jacqueline, what are your
thoughts on this this opening sequence of the show.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I mean, she knew that Jess was, you know, on
her mind because she freaked out by missing her graduation
and all that. So I think she did it in
a way where it was too harsh, but I understand
her intentions.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think she went kind of hard to Rory.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
About it, like she was a little Emily on her,
didn't she Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
There you go, Yes, because she's like, you gotta make
a decision. I feel like her own insecurity about making
a decision with like Christopher and like what just happened
to her. She was bringing that out to Rory in
that fight that they had, because Rory was looking for
Jess and returning back from Washington c she wanted to
(03:09):
go to the festival, and then she seem Jess making
out with that girl. I mean, so awkward for Jess
and that actress. It's a lot of making out, but yes.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's a lot of making it. I wonder if they
enjoyed it. Did they look like they were enjoying it?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
There was such a sure he did. He's a young boy.
I'm sure he did.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Was she turning around with the camera going she's really
more hitting me anyway? It seems that Rory's heart and
mind are fighting each other to make a choice. Emma,
how would you reconcile that this decision if you have
ever experienced anything like this in your brief sixteen years
on the planet, it's tough.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I think trial and error, and you know, being supported
by people is the most important, and you know right now,
it seems like the blind is leading the blind, with
Laura like kind of telling her what decision to make,
Like she can't even make a decision herself. And I
feel like it's just something that you got to do
(04:08):
and feel on your own. And it's definitely tough seeing
you know, Dean write all those letters to her and
all she wants to do is write to Jess. I mean,
it's wrong in my opinion what she's doing because she's
emotionally cheating on him and she kiss Jess. What she
has to do is kind of face the truth and face,
(04:28):
you know, admit to herself. I don't think she's done
any self reflection as to like what she wants. She's
starting to get there.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Listen, guys, all you young guys out there listening. The brooding,
good looking guy who doesn't care is going to get
all the the girls. He will.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, it's a game.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It's like it's a game. And then that flips later
in life when people mature, then that guy seems ridiculous
and you know, I think they're the real guy they
get like like Dean is far too mature for Rory.
There's there's a real disparity here, because Dean is the
ideal guy for somebody who's late twenties, thirties, that's a
(05:13):
full blown adult who's open and honest and I love you,
and it's just like it's not going to work with
a sixteen year old girl. Well she's seventeen. L Yeah,
it's not gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, he's the reliable one.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
But that's but that's a part of growing up, is
like doing you know, being with the bad guy, being
with the nice guy, and then getting that like healthy
relationship later on and starting a family.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well yeah, you think that's a rite of passage for
all uh all teenage girls, is they're all drawn, that's
all of them are drawn to that bad boy. Yes, yeah,
well a pretty pretty good percentage, I guess.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah for sure, Like because you know, we all
kind of want that something we can't have, but we
don't realize we can't have it until like it's too late,
where it's like, oh, well I just screwed this up,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So hang in there, guys. Life isn't fair as a
teenager if you're a good dude. But it bounces out,
it'll bounce out.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
For it, it will, it will you'll grow up to
be a great father and partner.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It's almost as if like the bad guys win early
on at life and then unless they figure it out,
then they kind of hit that downslope. And the people
that have just been waiting for their niceness to be
accepted then like take off in their late twenties thirties.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's it. Lorela hasn't told her parents all summer about
Christopher and his dalliances with Sherry. Is her avoidance a
form of denying it ever happened? That's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yes, yes, Professor Patterson, I believe. So it's like she's
almost she's avoiding it telling something to your parents and
avoiding it, like because you don't want to admit the truth.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Like I think that's in anything you do in your life.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And with this back and forth relationship that they've had,
she knows Laura.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I knows that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They've always had this ideal Emily and Richard have always
had this ideal for Laurai and so like, oh, Christopher
and Rory and Laura Lai and just the regular family unit,
because that's the traditional values that they grew up on.
And so I think she knows and she's avoiding it
because she doesn't want to tell them because she secretly
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wishes that could work out, But she also doesn't want.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
To disappoint them and give them another thing to like
attack her on. So totally, I totally think that is well.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Emily and Richard lose it. I mean they really lose
it when they hear the news about Shelley's pregnancy. Is
if there's dreams for Lauraai and Chrisper have been shattered
all over again, why won't they ever let go of
their disappointment with with with Laura? I Emma, what is
going on with these two? They just want to bludgeon
her every time they see her.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
They have this picturesque family image for Laurai because it
was the way that they raised her, tempted to and
so it seems like it's just a generational difference that
they're going through. And it's a bummer because it's like,
how do you get through to different generations like parents
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and grandparents when the world has evolved and morals have
changed and you're just a different person, Like, how do
you get through to them that this isn't you? So
I feel like it's just always a battle that she'll
deal with with Emily maybe, Richard.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, that's like the crux of the show though, you know,
that's what a good TV show is, and the relationships
and all that. If we didn't have that battle, then
we wouldn't have Gilmore Girls. So but it's a real
thing that a lot of people can relate to, is
you know, having these discussions with your parents or grandparents,
and you know, like different values being passed on, but
then these values change as we get older and we evolve.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Em what's you think of the opening Laurela has this
dream alarm clocks Luke cooking breakfast. She's pregnant with their child.
What what do you think of that opening?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It completely threw me for a loop for a second,
Like I was just watching and then I had to
reverse and I like audibly gasped, and there's no way
that they just kissed right there. But it was so
cute to see.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You too in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm just like you guys agree, and it was it
was a nice little preview of what's to come later.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Obviously we know we've all seen it already.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
This is second go around, but it's like Luke does
make her breakfast in her kitchen. So it was a
nice little preview. It was like throwing a little like here,
you can have a bite of this amazing bread, but
we're going to take it back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It was it was really nice.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I did notice he was piling up the bacon there
on her plate. She's a bacon eater, isn't she. I
love I love the bacon off a suki plate. You
finished with that, so she piled up the bacon on
that plate.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I know nothing like bacon in the morning.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That's really.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And coffee that's really.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Quite dangerous when you're on the road and there's that
buffet at the hotel and they've got like, you know,
they've got a barrel filled with crispy bacon.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, oven baked or on the stove, well.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I think both stove. Then throw it in the oven
and crisp it up.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's my bacon order is a little more demanding.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah you got you got a lot of time in
the morning's.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Huh No, I don't. That's why I want it done
for me. Man, there you go. You know I need
a look too. So she finally walks back and it
(11:08):
looks to have a cup of coffee after Friday night dinner. She's,
you know, she's a little bummed out obviously, so she
just says screw it and walks in, and Luke, you know,
kind of lets her sit. She starts to vent and
cry about Christopher puts him in a very awkward situation
where it's like, lady, I don't really care about this,
(11:29):
but I care about you, so I'm going to listen anyway.
And she cries about not having that whole package when
it comes to love and partnership. Luke insists she will
have it, so they kind of officially made up. What
I remember filming about the scene is I love playing
these scenes because I don't say much, but the character
(11:56):
says so much with not saying any thing, and how
he moves, how he listens, this kind of thing. That's
the type of acting I really love.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It was so good, Like this is one of my
favorite scenes between you two because when you guys do,
it's like an unspoken truth between you two and your words.
As Luke, you don't need many words to give support,
you don't need many words to let her know, hey
I'm here, Like you're listening intently, like fully.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
They're both in their natural states. Him the monosyllabic diner
guy monosyllabic.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
No, I don't know, that's.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
How she describes him when she's joking around and teasing him,
that's that's right, But that's how that's how she describes him.
That's how he's described, you know. And but there and
listening and engage connected to her, you know. I mean
he's responding physically to everything she's saying. So he's actively
listening and that's the kind of stuff I love to do.
(12:57):
And she's fully herself too, feeling completely comfortable talking about
another man and another love of it in her life,
her baby daddy or her baby husband almost right. And
he's just listening and being a friend, reacting the way
(13:18):
he reacts, and like, boy, this could be me, And
I don't know if I want this to be me.
You know, I love this girl, but it just yeah,
fraught with tension. This scene just yes and two characters
being one percent themselves m exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
It definitely felt like, out of whatever else was going
on in the episode, it definitely felt like the most
real and attention grabbing scene because I felt like it
was something that everyone could relate to. Just being so
vulnerable and asking for help because you just don't know
what to do or how to feel, and just being
(13:57):
able to like vent, cry and let it out and
have someone just listen or just like their presence just
means so much and it adds to making you feel better.
So it's just so special and relatable.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, because whenever in real life, whenever you're going through
like something really hard, people always ask what can I
do to help, and it's always like just be here.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Just listen and don't comment. You just you just need
to get it out.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, And that's and the way that they shot it.
I noticed that, like I was going to say, beautiful, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And then Luke's Luke's presence is like right in the
back and it's like he's always there, He's got her back.
And then it's like on Laura life and I'm just like, oh,
that that's great.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That's that's that filmic language that Amy knows so well.
And she directed this so it's like where it's you
know the question of answering the question where do I
put the camera? M I mean she answered it with
her It was just beautifully directed seeing.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, and it's always sad seeing Laura life so down
because you normally don't. She normally is like saying jokes
to kind of cope, and here she was just straight
up vulnerable. And we've all had these moments in our
life where it's like, what am I doing? Am I
ever gonna have it? I was single personally for a
long time before I you know, I'm with my partner
Eddie and we have a kid, but like in my thirties,
(15:18):
I was single majority of the time. So seeing this
really brought me back to like when all my friends
were getting married when I was thirty five. They were
They're all, you know, having kids, you know, in my
mid thirties, and I was like, I'm still single here,
like what's going on?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And I broke my.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Heart to watch Laura I say that about herself because
it's like I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Right, And how can Luke be How can Luke stay
mad at her? Once she's in there trusting him and
just unloading everything and feeling so comfortable to do this
with him. She's not going to do it with anybody else. No,
she's not going to do it with Rory. She's not
going to do it with Emily Richard, who else is
she she she might do it with Suki, right, I
(16:03):
mean you could argue that she would You think she
would be that vulnerable with Suki. She would be I
would think.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, but it just she wants a different reaction
and response. And that's when it makes it even sweeter
that she went to Luke for it, Like she didn't
just need a cup of coffee, she needed his warm
hug of silence and staring at her.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And don't it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But I think too with Suki, it's like she just
got married, so you don't want to like burst her bubble,
and like I remember feeling this way. I'm so happy
for you, you know, for your friends who are getting married,
who have found the love and all that, and then
you reflect back on your own you're like, Okay, what
about me. You don't want to burst. You don't want
to put that on a newly married person. So I
(16:50):
think that's why she kind of went in.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
When Suki and Jackson were like raging at each other
the entire episode, right, it's like, really not the person
you want to go to at that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, such a beautiful scene between you two, and it's
just like I just tilted my head kind of watching
It's like, oh, it felt like a warm hug because
you guys are you know, made up, and so it
was good.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That was really really a nice scene.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
One.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
It is one of my favorites. I'll have to remember this.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, and you can tell when it's Amy Sherman Paladino's writing.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Like with the Paladino's writing.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It it feels like it feels more genuine, realistic, like
it's coming from something that they've experienced or they know
that people have experienced.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh, it just it just tears your heart apart.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's good writing.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
They have that gift. Yeah, and that's why you don't
need to do so much when you're acting those words.
You just pretty much stand there and let those words
express themselves. Even hearing those words and it just sort
of comes out in your body, you know, the exact
body moves a certain way. It's just responding to these words.
(18:03):
How could they not, right, It's just it's magic, It's
actual magic.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
When you were filming these scenes with Lauren, did you
feel proud of the lines and the body language, like
could you feel it or was it just all natural
for you.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Both proud and feeling great about the scene and great
about the words you get to say. Listen, you know,
we come to the set or the night before preparing
the stuff, and we come to set prepare the stuff
these scenes, and it's just there's an ease to it
(18:48):
because the writing is so good and the rhythm is
so good and the music is so sweet, and you
get to say this stuff and it's in the writing.
You you know, the the vulnerability and the tenderness that
is underneath what Luke is doing but not showing, is
in the language. It's in the words, it's in the situation,
(19:11):
in the scene because of what she's saying and how
he's responding. So that's what instructs you. And you know,
I just miss it so much. The writing is so good.
You don't get this level of writing. You just don't see.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's it's the tenderness.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I like that, the tenderness of it, because the whole
show is talking fast, and then when you have these
moments are slowing down, it really hits, it really hits,
and so that's what makes it just real. It's like wow,
it's really impactful on screen.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It's remarkable. It's just remarkable. To be able to and
that was my every day. That was my normal going
to work, to be doing that level of we're attempting
that level of work to as good as the words
are right, to not screw up the words because the
words are perfect. Right. That's the situation you want to
(20:10):
be and where you have to rise up every day,
every moment of every day, of every scene to be
as good as the writing is. And man, that was fun. Yeah,
that's great.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Did any scenes or writing in particular like leave you
feeling heavy like it may have taken you a second
to snap out and film a different scene. Did that
ever kind of happen to you? Or were you able
just to always be acting and then turn it off
turn it back on?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Oh yeah, like when you and Loura get in that
fight over Jess and the car accident. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well I think that was the last scene of the
day because it was night time. It's pretty late at night,
I think, so that was it. We get to go
home after that. Let me see, was there a time?
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think in the recent memory the h don't Leave
Me seen in the episodes right, the Netflix episodes, Oh
big long speech, which.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Oh that's amazing. Oh I love watching that.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Sceint so Yeah, that that took a lot out of
me and I needed I needed to take a knee
and towel off and have some gatorad after that one.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know how you nailed that.
That was amazing. That scene is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But that's but that's what I'm talking about. It's it's
walking out into the colisseum and you know, facing off
against your opponent and the lions coming at you and
and surviving and thriving, and it's just so damn stimulating
(21:48):
to be in that kind of creative situation. I mean,
it's what it's all about. It's what I trained for
all those years, and it was just it's just exhilarating.
When you have writers that gifted and you're doing their words,
it's an absolute privilege because it doesn't happen a lot,
(22:09):
you know. Yeah, I mean, if you can get to
the top of the business somehow, then you're exposed to
the great writing, you know, And this was one of
those situations where you know, we were all exposed to
this great writing. Yeah, and we all got very lucky.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Let me tell you, well, it's the legacy of it too.
Twenty five years later, here we are, it's.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Still the biggest thing ever, you know, and so right,
it's what brought us here.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, just it's it's nice to know you didn't screw
it up totally, right, I got away with it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I was recently thinking a lot about Sean Gunn because
there's just been so many interviews resurfacing of him, and
particularly in this episode, I was just starting to notice
kirkmore who I Kirk in Paris are my favorite characters
besides Luke and Lorlai. And how he the best way
(23:07):
he could just describe Kirk was that he is just
a manchild. And now that's something that I just can't
get out of my head. And I just have like
the biggest soft spot for him and all of his antics,
like his lotions that he was trying to make, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
God, brilliant, brilliant stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
And he's someone that got lucky in terms of, you know,
showing up to be the DSL guy and Amy Sherman
Paladino wanted to be back. It's like, it's just it's
just amazing to see how everything just fell into place.
And I was thinking about how you were supposed to
be Duke and it's.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Just special that not supposed to be a woman.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
That's right. Where did you come from?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Duke? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It was a typo on the on the audition when
I had the two scenes to audition, and I only
did one because it said Luke and the other one
said Duke. Who's a typo or something?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And you were only supposed to be there for one
episode and then it turned it down moor right.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Just just a flukee kind of thing. But anyway, Seawann
and I do these panels. They'd usually do a Saturday
panel or a Sunday panel and the fans come into
this massive ballroom or massive hall seated with seats and
Galaxy Con Raleigh. There were twenty five hundred people showed
up for that.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And you know, Sean and I are like the the
you know, the Laurel and Hardy of the concert. Somehow
it always turns into a comedy show.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Ah, that's so great.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's just brilliant. We work. We play off of each
other so well. Yea. So if you're listening and you're
in the Saint Louis area or neighboring states, come see
us because just if just for the panel, because it's
really a fun time. It's like an hour of just hilarity.
I don't know what it is about Sean, well I
(25:02):
do know what it is about Sean, but he just
brings out this side of me, and I bring out
a side of him. And it's just really fun to work,
you know, to be up there and just sort of
chat with him and respond to audience questions and it's
just it's just so much fun.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
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have to not if you listen to I Do Part Two.
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Speaker 1 (25:41):
Let's get to the closing scene. Laurla comes home to
apologize worry about the Dean versus Jess fight at the
festival in the beginning, and Roy says she was right.
She chooses Dean and she is sure of it, although
she kind of doesn't seem like it. No denying her
(26:01):
true feelings for Jess. It's going to be the safe option.
Knowing how much Roy's experienced back and forth love with
her parents, is she choosing Dean? Because she needs someone
reliable Jacqueline.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Duh, duh. It's like she doesn't want to be her mother,
and so I mean, and that's in a way of that. Now,
I'm not saying like Laura is such a bad person
or somebody don't want to turn out to be like,
but Laura's love choices and stuff are pretty questionable until Luke.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Obviously, because he's a stable one. But yeah, she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
She has already experienced it back and forth with her parents,
Christopher and Lauralai, so she doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
To, you know what, nothing rupt But you know what
it is about these Gilmore girls. Yeah, they're so a beautiful,
they're so smart, they're so snarky, they're so clever, they're
so quick, they're so cultured. Right that guy's just melt
and they lose it and they're just each of them
(27:06):
looking for someone who isn't losing it all over the
place and turning them off. They want a guy to
hold their hold their own m hm, like stop it
with all the the roses and I love you, I
love you, you know it's like just hold it together, man,
would you? That's what they want. And I think that's
(27:27):
why Luke works because he's not getting all gushy and mushy. Ever,
mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You really need somebody the opposite.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
To match you, to match your strength. These are strong women.
These are strong women. I mean Rory's a strong She's
she's getting stronger all the time, right, but she's innately strong.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, and they just they no room for whims. Sorry, guys,
what's out? They're done out.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
But they're also choosing those kind of guys.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Too, Yeah, because they came off really cool and collected
and very you know, they all were James Bond the beginning,
they turned into they don't realize James O'Keefe at the end.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
It's interesting to me though, how someone reliable like Rory's seventeen,
she doesn't need someone right now. That's where I'm like
toggling with why does she need to choose one of them?
Why does she need to be with Dean. I think
she's partially scared of it because she doesn't want to
(28:34):
face the truth or break as hard or have the
town ask her questions. Like, there's so many elements and
I think right now, with maybe just me being young
and relating to a younger woman, like what she's she's
just confused. She doesn't need Dean or someone reliable. She's
(28:55):
just meeting people and understanding life.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Right, she doesn't know what she needs, yeah, just defining
it right, right.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I mean she still doesn't know in the revivals, which
would be like the continuation and like you can do
more with Rory definitely for sure after the revivals. Yeah,
it's true she's young, she doesn't Yeah, you're right, Emma,
she doesn't need him. But I think she has a
lot writing on herself because I'm writing on her shoulders,
(29:23):
because she is the golden child of the town. She
can't go for Jess because he's the bad boy. You know,
he deems a good on paper guy.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Yeah, it's almost like he's resumeable, like she's doing to
fit the image for who she wants to be. And
it's just mind blowing because I'm twenty four and I
just got my first boyfriend, like I I didn't. It's
just weird how it was the standards twenty five years
(29:54):
ago or date and create, but it's like now they're not. Now.
It's all about finding yourself and what you're good at
and becoming independent. So it's just weird to now, like
watch this series and see how she's seventeen.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
She's so young, right, right, you know what, I just
thought of a spin off for you know, or be
centered in Luke's diner, and it'll just be like me
and Max and Digger and it'll be entitled Surviving Laurela.
It'll all be waiting for her to come into the
(30:31):
diner and she never does, but we prep for right
and Digger comes by, and Max comes by.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You know, no Christopher though, because we just kicked him out.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
There's a sign no you're not welcome here.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It's no cell phones, no Christopher.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's not nice. He's got it both in the corner,
all waiting for him.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
You know, do you think those characters would have things
to talk about other than Larela.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Let's find out Surviving Laurel I ah, and.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Then they all become best friends.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I don't know, because they're also different.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
They're also different because Max, like is intellectual with books
and everything, and I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Actually, like if Loralai was removed, would they all be friends?
Because I feel like they all have that underlying angst
because she's there.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It could be like, you know, waiting for Goodell. It's
like like the Samuel Beckett version of Gilmore Girls, Right,
everybody's waiting around for Laurela. She never shows up. Yeah. Anyway,
well my brain hurts from thinking.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It was such a good episode. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Let's just stick a fork in this one.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Uh where'd this rank on? Your guys?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Is like premiere like episodes because you know this, yeah,
like out of the series.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Like we've redefined what podcasting is today, We've done the
three of Us. This is this is the new standard,
right right?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, I like this premiere episode though, like it was,
it was it was good.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Oh you're talking about the show.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I was no, not us, No, no, the show Season three,
episode one.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
The show was entertaining, very well written, beautifully directed. Yeah.
I had every It had everything you want in a
Gilmour episode. It had a festival, It had some good
Tailor stuff. It had some good Michelle stuff, It had
some good had good parents and Rory stuff, and had
all kinds of it had good Luke and Laurelized stuff,
(32:36):
had good Suki Laurelized Suki Jackson stuff with the bear
and the thing, and I mean it was just it
was it was chock full of good stuff man. Good balance.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, it was a good balance for a premiere episode.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I think so right, very good. All right, well,
thank you ladies for filling in. We we had a
guest who uh unfortunately couldn't join us, and Emma and
miss Jacqueline here decided to just come in feet first
(33:10):
into the fire, into the pit and look what they did.
They hit it out of the park. Thanks so thank
you so much ladies for saving this episode and making
it as great as anything we've ever done. And remember
you are the best fans on the planet. And can
we talk a little bit about the recent cons that
(33:31):
I just came from.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Fans Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yes, you know, excited and for the twenty fifth anniversary.
This is so great. The fans showed up in Brighton, Michigan,
and in New Milford, Connecticut in waves, I mean just waves,
hundreds and thousands of them. And they're also excited and engaged.
It's the most lit fan base. I mean, there can't
(33:57):
be a more stimulated and lit up fan base than this.
They are so thrilled to celebrate this.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
They're so thrilled to meet you, Scott.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, I'm thrilled to meet them like.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Every single photo that because I help run the Instagram page,
I'm reposting, and then the dots on the stories are
so little because everybody's so excited to meet you and
they have.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
These like it was my dream come true.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm just like, it is so sweet to see everybody
just love you and you take the time to actually
engage with them, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Listen. We had a break in New Milford, right, So
instead of having the typical lunch and at the location,
we went into town and we went into this old
time sort of saloon bar with a pool table and
a dart board, and so we ordered some food, we're
playing darts, were playing pool, and we're the only ones
(34:50):
in there because everybody was out doing the Gilmour Festival
activities and that kind of thing. And this group of
two moms and six like thirteen years old girls just
walked in. They saw me land darts, right, and I
just turned around and looked at him and they go,
oh my god, we love you. And they came and
(35:12):
they played darts, so IF and we and so I
had my handlers there and they said please, no, don't
film this and don't take any pictures. And they were
a little disappointed with that, but so if I want
to say, I wanted to say this to support these
girls and their moms who came in as they're telling
the story and if nobody believes them. It happened so
(35:35):
sweet it happened, and we had to wait a ball.
And one girl was so nervous that she was even
in this situation, like, you know, they're playing darts with Luke.
It's like maybe a new thing. Who knows it could
be a real And she says, she, I don't know
if she played darts before, but she was missing the
entire board and like sticking it into the wall and
the furniture and the whole. It was so cute. It
(35:59):
was really fun.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I noticed a huge, big blanket that somebody made for you.
It looked incredible.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
It's being FedEx to me right now. Wow, it was
too big to fit in my luggage.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Hours and hours and hours that they spent. Shout out
to that fan whoever she is.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
She was gray, And I'm telling you they gave me
so many gifts because it was my birthday and New Milford.
I traveled on my birthday and I worked the next day.
The next three days and they're so generous. I mean
just handing me gift after gift after gift after gift.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, stuff getting through TSA with all that stuff, I
had a lot of spain to do. Right, what's going on, bro,
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I mean you must walk away from those events like
so happy because you are receiving energy, right, the energy
you bring to people, You are receiving so much love.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's not timing, it's time. The thing that wears out
is a travel, you know, the connecting flights and all that.
It's it's not the fans. They give you the energy, man. Yeah,
it's like I showed up on the twelfth just exhausted,
and then they you know, they start, you know, releasing
the lines and then the people come and you know,
you get energized from me. Yeah, it's it's it's wonderful experience.
(37:11):
It really is great meeting these fans. Anyway, Thank you, ladies,
best fans on the planet. And keep the cards and
letters coming. We'll see at the cons wherever we are,
bangor Maine gonna be mid mid November, I think bangor
Maine Queen City Comic Con. So come on out and
see us there too, and remember where you lead, we
will follow.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Stay safe everyone, Hey.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Everybody, and don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at i
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