July 24, 2025 • 32 mins
The hills are aliiiiive with the sound of Gilmore! The iconic film The Sound of Music (celebrating 60 years!!!) is referenced over and over again throughout Gilmore Girls and we’re talking to one of the von Trapp family singers… Angela Cartwright (Brigitta von Trapp)!
It’s one of the most legendary musicals of ALL TIME, and Angela is sharing secrets from the set. Plus, “Danger, Will Robinson”…she’s giving us all the stories from Lost in Space!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again. Oh that's just you. I
Smell pop Culture with Eastern Allen and iHeart radio podcast.
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The hills are live with the sound of Gilmore. Hey, everybody,
it's Easton Allen. It's I Smell pop Culture. That's right, baby.
We are dancing through the lush, green hillsides of podcast land,
and we are going to do something really, really fun
here this week. If you're just joining us, if you're
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just landing here for the first time, if you dropped
out of the sky, you don't know where you are.
You don't know who I am. Don't worry about that.
Who I am does not matter. I am an enigma,
I am a mystery. I'm a force of nature, and
I am here to take you through the pop culture
references in Gilmore Girls, of which there are a plenty
of which there are diverse and interesting, complex our references
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all over history, all over the world, music, movies, songs, celebrities.
We are going to take one or two of them
and go put it under the microscope, dive deep, figure
out who made this a pop culture reference? How do
you become a pop culture reference? How do you take
a movie, a piece of media and elevate it to
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the point where something as incredible as Gilmore Girls is
referencing it. A few months ago, we talked to Don
Most who is Ralph Mouth on Happy Days, and Happy
Days stands out because it is the most referenced show
in Gilmergirls. They referenced it like a million times. But
I don't have the exact data, but coming up second
or at least top three, has to be the Sound
of Music. Check this out. The Sound of Music was
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referencing Gilmore Girls. I'm counting here one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight times, everybody eight times. I hope you have a
pen and paper out Season two episode six, Season four,
episode ten, Season five, episode eleven, seven, Season five episode twenty,
Season six episode fifteen, Season seven episode four, Season seven,
episode twenty, and fall on Netflix. Sound of Music is
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all over the place in Gilmore Girls. Amy Sherman Palladino
absolutely loved this musical. She loved it. It's all over
the place. We're not going to go through every reference here,
but we are going to highlight this one from season two,
episode six, presenting Laura like Gilmour. You probably remember this
is at the very beginning of the episode Lorlai and
Rory are at Emily and Richard's house and they meet
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the new maid, Lisel, and Lorlai introduces herself and Rory
as two of the Von Trapp children from Sound of Music.
Lurlei says you're new, and Lisa says, oh, sorry yesterday,
and lour Lea says, what's your name? The maid says Lisel,
and Lourally says, okay, Lisel, I'm Brigita. This is Gretel,
and Emily and Richard are expecting us. And Brigita and
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Gretel are two of the von Chapped children from Sound
of Music. Check this out, everybody, brace yourselves. We are
going to talk to Brigida herself. Brigida von Trapp played
by Angela Cartwright. Angela Cartwright such a star and icon.
She was lost in space after she did Sound of Music.
She was in sounda Music when she was eleven years old.
This movie won five Academy Awards. It's celebrating its sixtieth
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anniversary this year. How incredible is that we are going
to talk to Angela right now. She is I can
see her in the waiting room. Now she is doing
She's spinning across the Austrian Alps. Right now, she's running
around in the waiting room, and I'm going to let
her in so we can get some of this magic
here on the podcast. Angela, thank you so much for
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doing this.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Wow, it's my pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh my goodness. Okay, well, I have so many questions
for you. I read a Tiger Beat interview with you
from September nineteen sixty seven. Those Tiger Meta interviews are great.
I love it. But you're like, I think you're like
twelve or thirteen when you did this interview, and you
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sound like a seasoned veteran actor, Like the stuff you
had done to that point is just tremendous and astounding.
You started when you're three years old, is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's right I did. I started when I was three.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That's incredible. I mean literally growing up on sets. I
mean that, what a wild childhood to have.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's crazy, especially because it was totally by accident. I
was born in England. It was the farthest thing from
what my parents ever imagined for Veronica and myself, that's
my sister, and we came here to live by the
beach and the dream of coming to America. I mean,
we immigrated through Canada. Took us a year and we
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arrived and it was just like my fate was already
laid out for me and I started working right away,
as did my sister, who looked all American with freckles,
and we just you know, kind of took off it.
It was just kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's so nuts, I mean, And again I watched I
love that this is out there by the way. I
watched the screen test you did for Sound of Music,
and it's so fun to watch because like you're in
such command of the character already, and I have to
remind myself, like you're eleven years old, and I'm just like,
I'm like you were, You're just born to do this.
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But again, with so much Sound of Music stuff to
talk about, did you were you a singer before that role? Like,
what's your singing background? You have such a beautiful voice.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh, thank you. I did sing I took you know,
singing lessons. I was on the Danny Thomas Show for
seven years and they have me do some singing on
that show. I did some singing. I did some dancing.
Of course. You know the song the Balan k Yes
or my album Angela Cartwright sings.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I have been trying to get that my hands on
that album for a while now. Okay, I'm in an
eBay war right now with somebody.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
The thing that's so heartwarming about that is I do
two songs with my dad who's no longer with us,
and one is Starlight, Starbright. Every time I hear it,
I cry. The other one is he is the Voice
of Mister Jumbo, which was a show on The Danny
Thomas Show where they all thought I was making up
this person that was like really tall and everything. Cute
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story anyway, that was so I did sing, I sang,
I danced. You know, I took lessons doing that tap
dance ballet. But you know, it all kind of came
naturally really to me. So I guess it was my
dad did sing when he was younger, so maybe that
was part of it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's just you don't see that kind of performer anymore really,
like like someone like like you just have such a
command of of just being an entertainer and like hearing that,
like all this stuff just came naturally the God. Some
people are just touched by God to do this stuff.
It's really really incredible stuff. Now, Brigita von Trapp. What
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a role, Like, I'm so curious how that developed and
like what you went to Austria for three months? Is
that right to film that? To film Sound of Music?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, first of all, Danny let me out of my
contract so that I could start the Sound of Music.
Because we had been on our seven years, he'd been
on eleven. He wanted to try other things producing and
stuff like that. He let me out of the last
show so that I could be Brigita. I auditioned with
everybody else, you know, I went on an interview, I
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had to sing, I did this screen test. I felt
you say that, you know, it just felt like I
had command of it. Brigita was me. I mean I
did test also for Louisa with a blonde wig, which
was the older one. But I always just really felt
like she was an old slipper, you know, I just
put her on and she had curiosity. She you know,
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was faultless to tell the truth several times in the movie.
So I felt like it was very much me, and
I think Robert Wise kind of felt that also. You know,
I did have dark hair. I'm glad they didn't make
me die my hair. They did with Nicholas who played Frederick,
and also Louisa Heather. But it was good because Chris
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Palmer had dark hair, so I think it kind of
made it more real. He made that the children relatable,
which I don't think in the original play they were
as relatable. They were just these little mechanical children. And
that has a lot to do with why this movie
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is so successful.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Absolutely, And like I remember being a kid watching sound
of Music and connecting so much with your your character.
The other children, they're they're really stand out and they're
just such a shining part of that movie. Yeah, So
what was filming it like? Because like it's when you
adapt like a stage musical to a movie, it's so
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much of that performance comes through. I mean what, like
you had to rehearse a million times? I'm sure, Like,
how did that go?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We did? We rehearsed for a good couple months before
we even were in front of the camera. They just
don't do it like this anymore. We knew those songs inside.
Now we went in the studio, we recorded with a
full orchestra. For me, it was heaven. I had been
on a show with an older boy, Rusty Hamer, who
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you know, used to trip me up and pull my
hair and stuff like that. And so for me, I
instantly connected with Heather, who was the one that played
the older sister. The two of us were absolute Beatle
fans and we just connected and it was just a blast.
We became instant friends, and so we were kind of
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on this adventure together.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We went to this country where you know, we did
our school work and outdoors on the lawn and then
we would go and do field trips to all the
places in Austria. It was just it was such a
wonderful year out of my life. It was just great.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I love hearing that. That makes me so happy because
because that's as a fan, that's what I want to hear,
you know, And I'm like, oh god, what if it
was terrible or something? You know, that makes me so
happy now. Julie Andrews, I'm like working with her. First
of all, I wanted is there anything about her that
might that you know, that might shock us, Like did
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she like eat a lot of TUTSI rolls or something?
Is there anything weird about Julie Andrews that we need
to know?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, we connected as kids to her being our
fraud line right in the beginning. It just come off
of Mary Poppins, and she taught us all those songs.
Between takes, she would, you know, we would, we would
sit around and sing. I loved her. I think it
was a part of strategy that she had this connection
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with all of us, But sometimes that leaves when a
movie is over, and we've continued to, you know, stay
in contact and and be a part of her a life.
I mean, this movie catapulted her to you know, the
success that she well deserved. What a voice. But we
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were there for the Lifetime Achievement award that she received,
and she was so gracious and so lovely. And afterwards,
you know, we talked all of us and she asked
how we were doing. And that is who she is. Now.
Can I say anything bad about her? Well, I hear
she swears, although I don't remember her swear all out
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of that, but bless her heart, No, she was. She
was lovely but not saccharine, not funny at all, straightforward
shooter wanting to do a good job, showing up, professional,
knew her lines and embraced all of us, which made
the movie so magical.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I love I love hearing that I love that so much.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
The sound of music is about like a relationship between
mothers and mother figures and their children, which is also
inherently what this is a Gilmore Girls podcast, what Gilmore
Girls is about. And it sounds like you had that
kind of connection on set with Julie. Did you feel
those themes as you were making the movie, like, like
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relationship between mothers and children. Was that something that affected
you when you were making it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't think I really thought of it that way.
I mean, we're on the set with us because you
have to have a guardian, and my mom was always
there through all my childhood. While I was on the set,
I think we always thought of her as our fraud line.
I think we really did. She just you know, was
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it wasn't like, you know, we hung with her, you know,
all day long. But when the movie was over, she
threw a pool party at the house she was living
at at the time in Los Angeles, and I remember
she gave Heather and me a Beatle book that was
Love Letters to the Beatles or something.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I still.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Signed it in the in front. And you know, she
was just endearing to us. So I can't say anything
bad I'm not going to make up anything because she
was you know, she was just a lovely human being
and believing. I think she still is. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, now I have to know who's your favorite Beatle.
Oh it was Paul, of course.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah. I loved Paul. Heather liked George, but I just
loved Paul, and I just the music just resonated with me.
I just loved it. I remember the day that my
sister ran down the stairs in the house with this album.
If you remember the very first Meet the Beatles album,
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they all had kind of red hair if you really bad.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Actually, Oh my gosh, I got my album from KRLA,
you know, and we put it on and just loved it.
And my parents loved Beatle music too, which I think really,
you know, made it kind of interesting. We always had
music on in the house, so that was nice that
we could play that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, what a special thing to share with your parents,
I know, especially like with the Beatles, that was a
divisive thing in a lot of families.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh the hair, it was my dad did say, I
just wish they would get a hair, Okay, Dad, I mean,
now we look at that with all the things and
the trends that have gone through with the haircuts and
stuff like that. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But
you know, in those days in the sixties that was
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so long hair was like, you know, you were renegade
or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's so funny too, because like you look at every
picture of them when like the long hair days, and
they were like they're still like wearing suits and stuff,
like they looked great. They're just like they had this
crazy hair. Oh, I know, is there a memory from
making the Sound of Music that, like what was the
most challenging part of making that movie that you can remember?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I guess being away from my family for so long
because we were only supposed to be gone I believe
about a month. Oh and my mom I had a
two year old brother. Yeah, and my mom was very brave.
She had never been a part for my family. We're
very close knit. And you know, went to Austria and
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the rain was pretty bad in Austria and changed a
lot of the shoot days. Actually interesting, so all the
outside stuff was done there and when it was the
sun was out. It was glorious, you know. But Robert Wise,
who was our director, he did have a lot of
challenges with the weather, and I think probably that was
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the most difficult part. My parent, my dad, my sister,
and my brother did fly over. I'm sure my mother
was terrified of the three of them being in an airplane.
It did come over and stay with us. I'd have
to look in her little diary. She had this little
tiny diary where she wrote a sentence, you know, of
every day special, which is so it's so wonderful to God.
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I love five year diaries anyway. They're one of my
special little things that I love. Just a word here.
It's so much fun to look back, yes, Ben, and
what you've done. And I don't know when they came
and when they left. I'm sure it's in there and
I should look that up. But that was really great.
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I remember we were all together then, and then my
sister had to fly back because she was gonna play
Jemiah in Daniel Boone show. She had gotten the Daniel
Boone Show. And I remember her writing me because who
called in those days and saying, guess who was on
our plane? Ringo star was on the plane when they
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went home. Oh, I was so ghouous.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh my god, wow, I mean, how proud must your
parents be and like your parents weren't in show business?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
They like no, wow, And then both her daughters just
get catapulted to start him incredible. We were hanging out
with Angela cart Right, the star of the Sound of Music.
We have so much more to get into. This is
the Ice Smell Pop Culture podcast. Stick around, everybody, just
a few commercials here, it's Ice Smell Paul Culture. My
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name's Easton. We're hanging out with Angela Cartwright, Righetta von Trapp,
herself from the Sound of Music. She is here, she
is real. We're doing this. The hills are alive with
the Sound of Music. Well, I know you've been asked
this a trillion times, and I apologize, but I just
have to know what was your favorite like sequence make
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to film for that movie, Like, was there a specific
song that you really enjoyed performing?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, i'd have to say, and you know what, kind
of blurred The lines are kind of blurred because I
love do Riingney. I think it's just brilliant and if
you think about it, nothing like that had ever been
done before that time. Robert Wise kind of did the
first music video we shot in all these different locations,
just little snippets of the song. You know, here we're
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in a carriage. Here we're at the market. You know,
here we're running down you know, the archway in Marabell Gardens.
We went all over the city and just did the
one line. Can you imagine all the setups? But Robert Wise,
I don't know if you know. That's maybe a lot
of people don't is that Robert Wise was an editor
before he was a director.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, he actually edited Citizen Kane, so he, in his mind,
I think, knew how it was going to go together.
He did a storyboard. You know, we didn't know. We
just you know, they'd say, okay, now you're going to
sit in this carriage and you're going to go dome
me me, me, me so so you know, and we'd like, oh, yeah,
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we know that part because we'd rehearsed it so many times,
you know. The shot on the steps was was so
funny about this. When I go back to Austria and
I usually go every year, I lead a tour there
actually every year, and we go to all the locations
and I talk about my memories and it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's through crap oh, that's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But that routine on the steps, I can still remember
it today. It's like if you were you know, when
you were in school and you had to do like
drill team or something, you know, and if you remember
doing that routine or the cheerleading routine at the football game,
it's it just is there. I mean, I just can't
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forget my part. It's crazy. That was quite intricate, actually,
that that whole scene. But they had built fake steps
back at twentieth Century Fox before we even left or
started filming, and so we practiced on those steps so
long farewell we had practiced. I like that song too.
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I also love a device the song. I think it's
so moving and so pure and just a beautiful song.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's like when you look at the songs from the
Sound of Music, it's just like it's it's it's staggering,
like like every single song is not just like not
just a good song, but the best musical songs of
all time, Like when the earth is a barren rock
floating through space, there will still be a record player
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playing like my favorite things, you know, Like it's this
I cannot believe it. And the fact that You're part
of this legacy. Is just is so incredible. Sixty years
of the Sound of Music this year that is so awesome?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Isn't that crazy? And I'm only fifty No, yeah, sixty
years and you know, we just the five of us.
We've lost two of our members sadly. But the five
of us just returned from Florence, Italy. Wow, where they
showed the Sound of Music at the Teatra nicol Leni,
which is one of the oldest theaters in the world. Wow.
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And they've totally restored it and they played it for
an Italian audience that it was packed, and they put
Italian subtitles and then they asked us questions afterwards. And
you know, you realize the reach of this movie. It's worldwide.
You know, it's huge in South America, and it's huge,
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you know, all over the United States of course, and Europe.
And the only place it's not as huge is Austria yourself.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Interesting, I know, isn't that odd? That's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, well there's reasons for that. But I think the
sixtieth we are going back there in October where the
five of Us are going to celebrate at the Salzburg gala,
which is a huge celebration. The place where we shot
the last scene, the festival scene. Wow, it's still there.
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It's still a huge theater. It used to be open air,
but now it's got a roof on it. That's the
only change in sixty years. Maybe they're more comfortable. I
don't know, but that's going to be a thrill. I'm
really looking forward to to flying there and doing that.
That would be really really fun celebration. Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, that will be great for anyone that gets to
attend that, And I can't wait to hear about it
all when you get back. Well, I mean, yeah, it's
just such the legacy lives on. It's one of those
things that like if you pull just a random young
person off the street and like start naming movies from
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the sixties, they're probably you know, they might not know
that many, but if you say sound of music, they're
going to know, like the Hills are, Like they could
sing at least one, two, three songs from that movie.
It's just one of those things that are like I
think it's burned into the DNA of a popular culture forever.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I think there's a couple of things about that statement. First,
of all, in school, if you're in theater at all,
you probably have played one of the kids in the movie.
There are seven roles after all, along with all the
nuns and you know, you know, you captain, so there
are many roles to that, and it's usually done in
all the schools. So that's one thing. The other thing
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is the songs itself, I think have kind of it's
skipped generations. So the moms and the dads, they maybe
you know, you maybe had to take dad the first time,
but then they loved it afterwards. It becomes a Christmas thing.
It becomes an Easter thing all the time. I hear
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we always gather for, you know, Christmas, and we should
put the movie on. I also hear that when people
are kind of down and out and don't feel great,
or maybe they're recovering from something, they always put on
the sound of music. It lifts their spirits. So, you know,
Rogers and Hammerstein. It was the last thing I think
that Rogers wrote, or it might have been Hammerstein, don't
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quote me on that, but it was brilliant. It was
brilliant music and I Am Confident was a new song.
And also something Good was a new song. That they
wrote for the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Oh wow, I did not realize that that's I mean,
those are great songs. Yeah, yes, definitely, so you do
sound of Music. It's just this incredible experience. The movie
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wins five Academy Awards, and then what do you go
directly into Lost in Space? Is that like the next
thing you do?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It went directly into Loss in Space? I did. I
went on. I was called into Irwin Allen's office. He
was a big fan of me in Danny Thomas show.
And I went in the office and he went, oh,
thank goodness, I thought you'd come in smoking a cigar.
That was Irwin. He was strange, but I mean, I
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think he kind of mixed up that Danny used to
smoke cigars and how old I was going to be.
I might have been a lot older, but I was
kind of perfect for the part of Penny, and I
didn't have this fascination with space, even though Penny was
much braver than me. And I think it was another
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really interesting combination of people. You know, we started off
a very serious, dramatic show and it kind of elevated
itself because Jonathan Harris became a very popular kind of
character and I loved Jonathan what. He was great, best
story teller I've ever met, but he knew that he
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would be written out of the show if he didn't
create some character, and Doctor Smith was kind of his
creation and people, you know, it kind of went into
a more cult kind of show, kind of you know,
kind of weird and kind of funky and corny. But
it was the time of Batman and that came on
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to the screen totally in color and you know, poo
and bam and all of this crazy stuff, so it
kind of fit in with that genre more than a
more serious show did.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, I personally loved the space that of the space
that it occupied because it was just like it was
so stylized and it was cool science fiction, but it
was also it was a lot of fun. The robot
looked so cool. I loved. You know, I'm I'm hearing
a Kiss FM in Los Angeles and I was walking
up on the halls of kind of going like, I'm
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talking to Angela car right today, I'm talking and everyone
everyone's like starts poking their head out of their office, like,
oh my god. I had such a crush on Penny
on Lost in Space. You're talking to Penny. Yeah, so
that made me a hero here at the office. But
it really everybody like latched onto that show. And yeah,
and there's you know, they're they're doing reboots of it.
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There's there's new versions of it. Everyone saw. That's another
one that like really stands the test of time. I
think is Lost in Space.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, you know at the time when we haven't been
to the moon, it was dream that people were like,
what's beyond what's in the stars? You know, with star
trek and stuff. So I think, excuse me, he grab
the imagination of a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, and I know for me it did.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I thought, what is there on other planets? You know?
And I'm supposed to be this genius zoologist. I don't
know that, but I love that. And I had my Bloop,
my Debbie, who I dored. So it was it grabbed
a lot of people's imaginations. And then they rebooted it,
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and I think the first one, the first movie, lost
a little bit of the magic that was part of it.
But the second one, which Kevin Burns, who was such
an advocate for the show, bless his heart, he's the
one that kept all those Irwin Allen shows going he's
no longer with us. Sadly miss him a lot, but
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he had something to do with that Netflix show. I
mean he got it, he got who the characters were,
and I thought it was wonderful. That second one, I
thought it was you know, it was quite the twist,
and I love seeing Bill in there. Bill should have
been in the first one. I don't know why they
didn't that. I mean, there was an older Will. What
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better could you get them? The real Billy?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Really? I mean, why wouldn't you go for that?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I don't know. I never got that myself. But the
second one I thought was great and it's still out
and I got to be a little cameo in that.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Did you know that I did it? I was going
to ask you, say, you had a cameo in that one.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, like kind of a wicked person. I mean, I'm
the reason those people were so screwed up. I loved it.
It was a small part, but I loved being a
part of it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And I knew the fans would love that also, absolutely,
and the you know, the Lost and Space fans are
very passionate, and I know that they love seeing the cameo.
I saw that reaction online that was just such a blast.
Angela Cartwright, You're just the coolest person who has ever
walked to the earth. We love hanging out with you.
I have one more question for you, and this is
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kind of weird, I apologize, but what does pop culture
smell like to you? Like, if you had to describe
the scent of pop culture, how would you describe it?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Oh? I think probably petrick door, which is the smell
after rain as if the ground. That's probably the smell
to me.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I that gave me chills my hair that I love
that answer. That's great.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Oh my god, that's one of my favorite things. I
love pop culture. That's great.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, you are an indelible part of pop culture and
we appreciate your contributions. Thank you for bringing Brigida to
life in the movie and everything you do for the fans.
We just appreciate it so much. You're You're the best, Angela.
Thank you again for doing this.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Thank you lovely. Talking to you
Speaker 1 (32:00):
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The hills are live with the sound of Gilmore. Hey, everybody,
it's Easton Allen. It's I Smell pop Culture. That's right, baby.
We are dancing through the lush, green hillsides of podcast land,
and we are going to do something really, really fun
here this week. If you're just joining us, if you're
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just landing here for the first time, if you dropped
out of the sky, you don't know where you are.
You don't know who I am. Don't worry about that.
Who I am does not matter. I am an enigma,
I am a mystery. I'm a force of nature, and
I am here to take you through the pop culture
references in Gilmore Girls, of which there are a plenty
of which there are diverse and interesting, complex our references
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all over history, all over the world, music, movies, songs, celebrities.
We are going to take one or two of them
and go put it under the microscope, dive deep, figure
out who made this a pop culture reference? How do
you become a pop culture reference? How do you take
a movie, a piece of media and elevate it to
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the point where something as incredible as Gilmore Girls is
referencing it. A few months ago, we talked to Don
Most who is Ralph Mouth on Happy Days, and Happy
Days stands out because it is the most referenced show
in Gilmergirls. They referenced it like a million times. But
I don't have the exact data, but coming up second
or at least top three, has to be the Sound
of Music. Check this out. The Sound of Music was
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referencing Gilmore Girls. I'm counting here one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight times, everybody eight times. I hope you have a
pen and paper out Season two episode six, Season four,
episode ten, Season five, episode eleven, seven, Season five episode twenty,
Season six episode fifteen, Season seven episode four, Season seven,
episode twenty, and fall on Netflix. Sound of Music is
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all over the place in Gilmore Girls. Amy Sherman Palladino
absolutely loved this musical. She loved it. It's all over
the place. We're not going to go through every reference here,
but we are going to highlight this one from season two,
episode six, presenting Laura like Gilmour. You probably remember this
is at the very beginning of the episode Lorlai and
Rory are at Emily and Richard's house and they meet
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the new maid, Lisel, and Lorlai introduces herself and Rory
as two of the Von Trapp children from Sound of Music.
Lurlei says you're new, and Lisa says, oh, sorry yesterday,
and lour Lea says, what's your name? The maid says Lisel,
and Lourally says, okay, Lisel, I'm Brigita. This is Gretel,
and Emily and Richard are expecting us. And Brigita and
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Gretel are two of the von Chapped children from Sound
of Music. Check this out, everybody, brace yourselves. We are
going to talk to Brigida herself. Brigida von Trapp played
by Angela Cartwright. Angela Cartwright such a star and icon.
She was lost in space after she did Sound of Music.
She was in sounda Music when she was eleven years old.
This movie won five Academy Awards. It's celebrating its sixtieth
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anniversary this year. How incredible is that we are going
to talk to Angela right now. She is I can
see her in the waiting room. Now she is doing
She's spinning across the Austrian Alps. Right now, she's running
around in the waiting room, and I'm going to let
her in so we can get some of this magic
here on the podcast. Angela, thank you so much for
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doing this.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Wow, it's my pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh my goodness. Okay, well, I have so many questions
for you. I read a Tiger Beat interview with you
from September nineteen sixty seven. Those Tiger Meta interviews are great.
I love it. But you're like, I think you're like
twelve or thirteen when you did this interview, and you
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sound like a seasoned veteran actor, Like the stuff you
had done to that point is just tremendous and astounding.
You started when you're three years old, is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's right I did. I started when I was three.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That's incredible. I mean literally growing up on sets. I
mean that, what a wild childhood to have.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's crazy, especially because it was totally by accident. I
was born in England. It was the farthest thing from
what my parents ever imagined for Veronica and myself, that's
my sister, and we came here to live by the
beach and the dream of coming to America. I mean,
we immigrated through Canada. Took us a year and we
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arrived and it was just like my fate was already
laid out for me and I started working right away,
as did my sister, who looked all American with freckles,
and we just you know, kind of took off it.
It was just kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's so nuts, I mean, And again I watched I
love that this is out there by the way. I
watched the screen test you did for Sound of Music,
and it's so fun to watch because like you're in
such command of the character already, and I have to
remind myself, like you're eleven years old, and I'm just like,
I'm like you were, You're just born to do this.
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But again, with so much Sound of Music stuff to
talk about, did you were you a singer before that role? Like,
what's your singing background? You have such a beautiful voice.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh, thank you. I did sing I took you know,
singing lessons. I was on the Danny Thomas Show for
seven years and they have me do some singing on
that show. I did some singing. I did some dancing.
Of course. You know the song the Balan k Yes
or my album Angela Cartwright sings.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I have been trying to get that my hands on
that album for a while now. Okay, I'm in an
eBay war right now with somebody.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
The thing that's so heartwarming about that is I do
two songs with my dad who's no longer with us,
and one is Starlight, Starbright. Every time I hear it,
I cry. The other one is he is the Voice
of Mister Jumbo, which was a show on The Danny
Thomas Show where they all thought I was making up
this person that was like really tall and everything. Cute
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story anyway, that was so I did sing, I sang,
I danced. You know, I took lessons doing that tap
dance ballet. But you know, it all kind of came
naturally really to me. So I guess it was my
dad did sing when he was younger, so maybe that
was part of it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's just you don't see that kind of performer anymore really,
like like someone like like you just have such a
command of of just being an entertainer and like hearing that,
like all this stuff just came naturally the God. Some
people are just touched by God to do this stuff.
It's really really incredible stuff. Now, Brigita von Trapp. What
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a role, Like, I'm so curious how that developed and
like what you went to Austria for three months? Is
that right to film that? To film Sound of Music?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, first of all, Danny let me out of my
contract so that I could start the Sound of Music.
Because we had been on our seven years, he'd been
on eleven. He wanted to try other things producing and
stuff like that. He let me out of the last
show so that I could be Brigita. I auditioned with
everybody else, you know, I went on an interview, I
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had to sing, I did this screen test. I felt
you say that, you know, it just felt like I
had command of it. Brigita was me. I mean I
did test also for Louisa with a blonde wig, which
was the older one. But I always just really felt
like she was an old slipper, you know, I just
put her on and she had curiosity. She you know,
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was faultless to tell the truth several times in the movie.
So I felt like it was very much me, and
I think Robert Wise kind of felt that also. You know,
I did have dark hair. I'm glad they didn't make
me die my hair. They did with Nicholas who played Frederick,
and also Louisa Heather. But it was good because Chris
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Palmer had dark hair, so I think it kind of
made it more real. He made that the children relatable,
which I don't think in the original play they were
as relatable. They were just these little mechanical children. And
that has a lot to do with why this movie
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is so successful.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Absolutely, And like I remember being a kid watching sound
of Music and connecting so much with your your character.
The other children, they're they're really stand out and they're
just such a shining part of that movie. Yeah, So
what was filming it like? Because like it's when you
adapt like a stage musical to a movie, it's so
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much of that performance comes through. I mean what, like
you had to rehearse a million times? I'm sure, Like,
how did that go?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We did? We rehearsed for a good couple months before
we even were in front of the camera. They just
don't do it like this anymore. We knew those songs inside.
Now we went in the studio, we recorded with a
full orchestra. For me, it was heaven. I had been
on a show with an older boy, Rusty Hamer, who
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you know, used to trip me up and pull my
hair and stuff like that. And so for me, I
instantly connected with Heather, who was the one that played
the older sister. The two of us were absolute Beatle
fans and we just connected and it was just a blast.
We became instant friends, and so we were kind of
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on this adventure together.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We went to this country where you know, we did
our school work and outdoors on the lawn and then
we would go and do field trips to all the
places in Austria. It was just it was such a
wonderful year out of my life. It was just great.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I love hearing that. That makes me so happy because
because that's as a fan, that's what I want to hear,
you know, And I'm like, oh god, what if it
was terrible or something? You know, that makes me so
happy now. Julie Andrews, I'm like working with her. First
of all, I wanted is there anything about her that
might that you know, that might shock us, Like did
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she like eat a lot of TUTSI rolls or something?
Is there anything weird about Julie Andrews that we need
to know?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, we connected as kids to her being our
fraud line right in the beginning. It just come off
of Mary Poppins, and she taught us all those songs.
Between takes, she would, you know, we would, we would
sit around and sing. I loved her. I think it
was a part of strategy that she had this connection
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with all of us, But sometimes that leaves when a
movie is over, and we've continued to, you know, stay
in contact and and be a part of her a life.
I mean, this movie catapulted her to you know, the
success that she well deserved. What a voice. But we
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were there for the Lifetime Achievement award that she received,
and she was so gracious and so lovely. And afterwards,
you know, we talked all of us and she asked
how we were doing. And that is who she is. Now.
Can I say anything bad about her? Well, I hear
she swears, although I don't remember her swear all out
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of that, but bless her heart, No, she was. She
was lovely but not saccharine, not funny at all, straightforward
shooter wanting to do a good job, showing up, professional,
knew her lines and embraced all of us, which made
the movie so magical.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I love I love hearing that I love that so much.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
The sound of music is about like a relationship between
mothers and mother figures and their children, which is also
inherently what this is a Gilmore Girls podcast, what Gilmore
Girls is about. And it sounds like you had that
kind of connection on set with Julie. Did you feel
those themes as you were making the movie, like, like
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relationship between mothers and children. Was that something that affected
you when you were making it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't think I really thought of it that way.
I mean, we're on the set with us because you
have to have a guardian, and my mom was always
there through all my childhood. While I was on the set,
I think we always thought of her as our fraud line.
I think we really did. She just you know, was
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it wasn't like, you know, we hung with her, you know,
all day long. But when the movie was over, she
threw a pool party at the house she was living
at at the time in Los Angeles, and I remember
she gave Heather and me a Beatle book that was
Love Letters to the Beatles or something.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I still.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Signed it in the in front. And you know, she
was just endearing to us. So I can't say anything
bad I'm not going to make up anything because she
was you know, she was just a lovely human being
and believing. I think she still is. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, now I have to know who's your favorite Beatle.
Oh it was Paul, of course.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah. I loved Paul. Heather liked George, but I just
loved Paul, and I just the music just resonated with me.
I just loved it. I remember the day that my
sister ran down the stairs in the house with this album.
If you remember the very first Meet the Beatles album,
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they all had kind of red hair if you really bad.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Actually, Oh my gosh, I got my album from KRLA,
you know, and we put it on and just loved it.
And my parents loved Beatle music too, which I think really,
you know, made it kind of interesting. We always had
music on in the house, so that was nice that
we could play that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, what a special thing to share with your parents,
I know, especially like with the Beatles, that was a
divisive thing in a lot of families.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh the hair, it was my dad did say, I
just wish they would get a hair, Okay, Dad, I mean,
now we look at that with all the things and
the trends that have gone through with the haircuts and
stuff like that. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But
you know, in those days in the sixties that was
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so long hair was like, you know, you were renegade
or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's so funny too, because like you look at every
picture of them when like the long hair days, and
they were like they're still like wearing suits and stuff,
like they looked great. They're just like they had this
crazy hair. Oh, I know, is there a memory from
making the Sound of Music that, like what was the
most challenging part of making that movie that you can remember?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I guess being away from my family for so long
because we were only supposed to be gone I believe
about a month. Oh and my mom I had a
two year old brother. Yeah, and my mom was very brave.
She had never been a part for my family. We're
very close knit. And you know, went to Austria and
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the rain was pretty bad in Austria and changed a
lot of the shoot days. Actually interesting, so all the
outside stuff was done there and when it was the
sun was out. It was glorious, you know. But Robert Wise,
who was our director, he did have a lot of
challenges with the weather, and I think probably that was
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the most difficult part. My parent, my dad, my sister,
and my brother did fly over. I'm sure my mother
was terrified of the three of them being in an airplane.
It did come over and stay with us. I'd have
to look in her little diary. She had this little
tiny diary where she wrote a sentence, you know, of
every day special, which is so it's so wonderful to God.
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I love five year diaries anyway. They're one of my
special little things that I love. Just a word here.
It's so much fun to look back, yes, Ben, and
what you've done. And I don't know when they came
and when they left. I'm sure it's in there and
I should look that up. But that was really great.
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I remember we were all together then, and then my
sister had to fly back because she was gonna play
Jemiah in Daniel Boone show. She had gotten the Daniel
Boone Show. And I remember her writing me because who
called in those days and saying, guess who was on
our plane? Ringo star was on the plane when they
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went home. Oh, I was so ghouous.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh my god, wow, I mean, how proud must your
parents be and like your parents weren't in show business?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
They like no, wow, And then both her daughters just
get catapulted to start him incredible. We were hanging out
with Angela cart Right, the star of the Sound of Music.
We have so much more to get into. This is
the Ice Smell Pop Culture podcast. Stick around, everybody, just
a few commercials here, it's Ice Smell Paul Culture. My
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name's Easton. We're hanging out with Angela Cartwright, Righetta von Trapp,
herself from the Sound of Music. She is here, she
is real. We're doing this. The hills are alive with
the Sound of Music. Well, I know you've been asked
this a trillion times, and I apologize, but I just
have to know what was your favorite like sequence make
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to film for that movie, Like, was there a specific
song that you really enjoyed performing?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, i'd have to say, and you know what, kind
of blurred The lines are kind of blurred because I
love do Riingney. I think it's just brilliant and if
you think about it, nothing like that had ever been
done before that time. Robert Wise kind of did the
first music video we shot in all these different locations,
just little snippets of the song. You know, here we're
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in a carriage. Here we're at the market. You know,
here we're running down you know, the archway in Marabell Gardens.
We went all over the city and just did the
one line. Can you imagine all the setups? But Robert Wise,
I don't know if you know. That's maybe a lot
of people don't is that Robert Wise was an editor
before he was a director.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, he actually edited Citizen Kane, so he, in his mind,
I think, knew how it was going to go together.
He did a storyboard. You know, we didn't know. We
just you know, they'd say, okay, now you're going to
sit in this carriage and you're going to go dome
me me, me, me so so you know, and we'd like, oh, yeah,
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we know that part because we'd rehearsed it so many times,
you know. The shot on the steps was was so
funny about this. When I go back to Austria and
I usually go every year, I lead a tour there
actually every year, and we go to all the locations
and I talk about my memories and it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's through crap oh, that's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But that routine on the steps, I can still remember
it today. It's like if you were you know, when
you were in school and you had to do like
drill team or something, you know, and if you remember
doing that routine or the cheerleading routine at the football game,
it's it just is there. I mean, I just can't
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forget my part. It's crazy. That was quite intricate, actually,
that that whole scene. But they had built fake steps
back at twentieth Century Fox before we even left or
started filming, and so we practiced on those steps so
long farewell we had practiced. I like that song too.
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I also love a device the song. I think it's
so moving and so pure and just a beautiful song.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's like when you look at the songs from the
Sound of Music, it's just like it's it's it's staggering,
like like every single song is not just like not
just a good song, but the best musical songs of
all time, Like when the earth is a barren rock
floating through space, there will still be a record player
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playing like my favorite things, you know, Like it's this
I cannot believe it. And the fact that You're part
of this legacy. Is just is so incredible. Sixty years
of the Sound of Music this year that is so awesome?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Isn't that crazy? And I'm only fifty No, yeah, sixty
years and you know, we just the five of us.
We've lost two of our members sadly. But the five
of us just returned from Florence, Italy. Wow, where they
showed the Sound of Music at the Teatra nicol Leni,
which is one of the oldest theaters in the world. Wow.
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And they've totally restored it and they played it for
an Italian audience that it was packed, and they put
Italian subtitles and then they asked us questions afterwards. And
you know, you realize the reach of this movie. It's worldwide.
You know, it's huge in South America, and it's huge,
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you know, all over the United States of course, and Europe.
And the only place it's not as huge is Austria yourself.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Interesting, I know, isn't that odd? That's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, well there's reasons for that. But I think the
sixtieth we are going back there in October where the
five of Us are going to celebrate at the Salzburg gala,
which is a huge celebration. The place where we shot
the last scene, the festival scene. Wow, it's still there.
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It's still a huge theater. It used to be open air,
but now it's got a roof on it. That's the
only change in sixty years. Maybe they're more comfortable. I
don't know, but that's going to be a thrill. I'm
really looking forward to to flying there and doing that.
That would be really really fun celebration. Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, that will be great for anyone that gets to
attend that, And I can't wait to hear about it
all when you get back. Well, I mean, yeah, it's
just such the legacy lives on. It's one of those
things that like if you pull just a random young
person off the street and like start naming movies from
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the sixties, they're probably you know, they might not know
that many, but if you say sound of music, they're
going to know, like the Hills are, Like they could
sing at least one, two, three songs from that movie.
It's just one of those things that are like I
think it's burned into the DNA of a popular culture forever.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I think there's a couple of things about that statement. First,
of all, in school, if you're in theater at all,
you probably have played one of the kids in the movie.
There are seven roles after all, along with all the
nuns and you know, you know, you captain, so there
are many roles to that, and it's usually done in
all the schools. So that's one thing. The other thing
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is the songs itself, I think have kind of it's
skipped generations. So the moms and the dads, they maybe
you know, you maybe had to take dad the first time,
but then they loved it afterwards. It becomes a Christmas thing.
It becomes an Easter thing all the time. I hear
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we always gather for, you know, Christmas, and we should
put the movie on. I also hear that when people
are kind of down and out and don't feel great,
or maybe they're recovering from something, they always put on
the sound of music. It lifts their spirits. So, you know,
Rogers and Hammerstein. It was the last thing I think
that Rogers wrote, or it might have been Hammerstein, don't
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quote me on that, but it was brilliant. It was
brilliant music and I Am Confident was a new song.
And also something Good was a new song. That they
wrote for the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Oh wow, I did not realize that that's I mean,
those are great songs. Yeah, yes, definitely, so you do
sound of Music. It's just this incredible experience. The movie
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wins five Academy Awards, and then what do you go
directly into Lost in Space? Is that like the next
thing you do?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It went directly into Loss in Space? I did. I
went on. I was called into Irwin Allen's office. He
was a big fan of me in Danny Thomas show.
And I went in the office and he went, oh,
thank goodness, I thought you'd come in smoking a cigar.
That was Irwin. He was strange, but I mean, I
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think he kind of mixed up that Danny used to
smoke cigars and how old I was going to be.
I might have been a lot older, but I was
kind of perfect for the part of Penny, and I
didn't have this fascination with space, even though Penny was
much braver than me. And I think it was another
(26:41):
really interesting combination of people. You know, we started off
a very serious, dramatic show and it kind of elevated
itself because Jonathan Harris became a very popular kind of
character and I loved Jonathan what. He was great, best
story teller I've ever met, but he knew that he
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would be written out of the show if he didn't
create some character, and Doctor Smith was kind of his
creation and people, you know, it kind of went into
a more cult kind of show, kind of you know,
kind of weird and kind of funky and corny. But
it was the time of Batman and that came on
(27:26):
to the screen totally in color and you know, poo
and bam and all of this crazy stuff, so it
kind of fit in with that genre more than a
more serious show did.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, I personally loved the space that of the space
that it occupied because it was just like it was
so stylized and it was cool science fiction, but it
was also it was a lot of fun. The robot
looked so cool. I loved. You know, I'm I'm hearing
a Kiss FM in Los Angeles and I was walking
up on the halls of kind of going like, I'm
(28:00):
talking to Angela car right today, I'm talking and everyone
everyone's like starts poking their head out of their office, like,
oh my god. I had such a crush on Penny
on Lost in Space. You're talking to Penny. Yeah, so
that made me a hero here at the office. But
it really everybody like latched onto that show. And yeah,
and there's you know, they're they're doing reboots of it.
(28:21):
There's there's new versions of it. Everyone saw. That's another
one that like really stands the test of time. I
think is Lost in Space.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, you know at the time when we haven't been
to the moon, it was dream that people were like,
what's beyond what's in the stars? You know, with star
trek and stuff. So I think, excuse me, he grab
the imagination of a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, and I know for me it did.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I thought, what is there on other planets? You know?
And I'm supposed to be this genius zoologist. I don't
know that, but I love that. And I had my Bloop,
my Debbie, who I dored. So it was it grabbed
a lot of people's imaginations. And then they rebooted it,
(29:08):
and I think the first one, the first movie, lost
a little bit of the magic that was part of it.
But the second one, which Kevin Burns, who was such
an advocate for the show, bless his heart, he's the
one that kept all those Irwin Allen shows going he's
no longer with us. Sadly miss him a lot, but
(29:30):
he had something to do with that Netflix show. I
mean he got it, he got who the characters were,
and I thought it was wonderful. That second one, I
thought it was you know, it was quite the twist,
and I love seeing Bill in there. Bill should have
been in the first one. I don't know why they
didn't that. I mean, there was an older Will. What
(29:51):
better could you get them? The real Billy?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Really? I mean, why wouldn't you go for that?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I don't know. I never got that myself. But the
second one I thought was great and it's still out
and I got to be a little cameo in that.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Did you know that I did it? I was going
to ask you, say, you had a cameo in that one.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, like kind of a wicked person. I mean, I'm
the reason those people were so screwed up. I loved it.
It was a small part, but I loved being a
part of it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And I knew the fans would love that also, absolutely,
and the you know, the Lost and Space fans are
very passionate, and I know that they love seeing the cameo.
I saw that reaction online that was just such a blast.
Angela Cartwright, You're just the coolest person who has ever
walked to the earth. We love hanging out with you.
I have one more question for you, and this is
(30:43):
kind of weird, I apologize, but what does pop culture
smell like to you? Like, if you had to describe
the scent of pop culture, how would you describe it?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Oh? I think probably petrick door, which is the smell
after rain as if the ground. That's probably the smell
to me.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I that gave me chills my hair that I love
that answer. That's great.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Oh my god, that's one of my favorite things. I
love pop culture. That's great.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, you are an indelible part of pop culture and
we appreciate your contributions. Thank you for bringing Brigida to
life in the movie and everything you do for the fans.
We just appreciate it so much. You're You're the best, Angela.
Thank you again for doing this.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Thank you lovely. Talking to you
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at I
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