October 13, 2025 • 26 mins
Our book club continues with Lauren Graham’s collection of essays, “Talking As Fast As I Can: From Gilmore Girls to Gilmore Girls.”
What Gilmore Girls anecdote did Lauren reveal that had us in total agreement? Hint: a major storyline in Season 7.
Plus, she finally opens up about how weird Max’s proposal was over the phone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am All in again.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh that's you.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I Am All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast is welcome back to another
episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, Tara
and Susanne.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, And today.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
We're going to be talking about well, actually it's a
special book Club edition. We're not recapping an episode, but
we're going to be talking about Lauren Graham's book Talking
as Fast as I Can from Gilmore Girls to Gilmore Girls,
which she released in twenty sixteen. Have you read this
one before?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I did? I? Actually I read the hardcover first, and
then I listened to the audio book when we were
driving to Pop and so we listened to the audiobook
there and back. It was exactly the right length. And
so then when I reread it for this conversation, So
this is the third time I've been through it, so
(01:12):
got it.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, this was my second. I read it when it
first came out twenty sixteen. So there was a lot
where I was like, oh, this is familiar, but a
lot that I was like, oh, I didn't remember this.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Like I couldn't talk about it if I didn't refresh.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, exactly exactly. It's a fun read. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's a really it's a really really fun read.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I like the audiobook because it is as Loralai Gilmore
as it's gonna get.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Do like there was a lot I didn't know, Like
I didn't know she was born in Hawaii and then
moved to Japan, Like I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Isn't that crazy? And her first word was actually in Japanese.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, and then I was like I literally paused and
I was like, wait a minute, is this correct?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Like I thought she was like messing with us. Also,
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You remember from when you listen to the audiobook, but
was she used a male's voice when it was her dad?
Was that her actual Was that her actual dad?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I think it was. Yeah. I think it was her
real dad, Okay, which is cool.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
That was cool, Yeah, yeah, because it was like and
it sounded like he literally like sent in a voice
note or something like the quality of it was so funny,
which but I liked it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It kind of gave it like its little flair.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right right. Yeah. I enjoyed. I like how she talked
about both, like she went through the first seven seasons,
and then at the end of the book, she goes
through and talks about what it was like to play
that role again, because at the time, like now, it's
every there are everybody's doing a reboot and a remake
(02:53):
and you know, whatever you want to call it, So
it's not it's it was less common at the time
that an actor would go back and play the same
role that they did, you know, forever ago. Like now
it's more common, but back then it was pretty unique.
So it was I like how she really liked that
she got a second chance to do all of it,
(03:13):
and how she appreciated it so much more the second
time around, because it was like a gift that they
had been given. So I thought it was fun. I
enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I am you know, for the first time.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I'm always I'm always someone who I'm like, I want more,
I want more, like I want more Gilmore girls. And
I think this time reading the book, I'm okay if
they don't do anything new.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I have felt that way for a while. I kind
of like, I mean, we all know who the dad is, Like,
it's it's really not a cliffhanger, which if you haven't
read first, well, the first yeah, for sure. So if
you haven't read the book, she mentions, she she asked
(04:01):
several different people that were involved. She's like, isn't this
a cliffhanger? And she she was kind of stuck on it.
But we know, you know, now that we've all like
watched it one hundred times and analyzed the crap out
of it, we know it's not really a cliffhanger, like
just timing wise, there's only it has to be the time.
It just doesn't work with anybody else. Yeah, I mean,
I think the viewer can continue the story in their
(04:23):
own head, Like I like to imagine Luke and Lorelei
as grandparents, you know, like because when I imagine it,
I can make it what I want. I don't have
to go with what Amy gives us. So I as
much as I love new content, like I loved when
they did the Walmart commercial, like it was so fun
to see them together again, like I don't I don't
(04:44):
like if there is no more, I would be okay
with that too.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, I think, like I was, I was thinking about
it because specifically as I was reading the book. There
are some shows. I think there are some shows that
I watched Growing Up. That did a great job. I
think Fuller House with House did a great job. I
think that Girl Meets World with Boy Meets World was
it was. I didn't mind it, but I still go
(05:09):
back to Boy Meets World, not Girl Meets World. So
it made me think, like, what I like the continuation
of the story of just because think about it, You're
not gonna get everyone back, so you're the story would
only really continue. Sorry I'm going on a complete different tangent,
but you would only really get the story from Logan
(05:30):
and Lorelai and their family. Now, yeah, you wouldn't and
Laura I would pop in as the grandma like you
don't have Richard. Emily would pop in as much as
she could. Luke still works the diner. But then you
really like everyone else is like a secondary character now
they're not the main character.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So exactly, it made me think like do I want it?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Not?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Really?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I like My Comfort Show the way it is.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Right and you can't you know, the original run of
the show was lightning in a bottle and that is
hard to recapture. And that's why I tell people who
haven't seen the a year in the life. I tell
them don't expect it to be a continuation of the original.
Think of it as its own thing. Think of it
(06:18):
like a completely different show because the characters are the same,
but it doesn't have the same look and feel and
it doesn't make you feel the same way inside as
the original show did. It's I think I actually like
the revival. I do too, on its own merits. But
if somebody's that it's expecting it to be like the
(06:38):
original run is going to be disappointed. So so yeah,
I think standing on its own is it holds up
better than if you think of it as a continuation
of the area.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I think that's I think that's why I liked it
because I kind of knew that it was for you know, movies,
and then it was done. It wasn't like a season one,
you know, and then it's like, oh, yeah, it's going
to get canceled. It was like kind of like I
already know there's only four and that was it. Like
I kind of already had that in my head to
(07:09):
go back to the book. I didn't realize that when
they did that ATX Festival that they were already in
talks for it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I didn't remember that either, because I thought ATX was
what gave them the idea and they started talking after that.
I didn't realize they had already been kind of kicking
it around before.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I also loved when Lauren was like, Scott had mentioned
on a podcast. In my head, I was like, well,
we weren't doing this show yet. I don't know what
podcast you went on and said that, Yeah, I'd love
to find out.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I can't remember which podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But also I'm sure someone spun it right.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It was like they would be like, oh, like Scott,
would you like to do another show, and Scott's probably like, yeah,
I'd love to, and then it's like, let's let's make Amy,
Let's make it happen.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And then that got like spun out of control.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Right, I mean, we've we've all seen that happen, Like one, yeah,
tiny little comment gets taken out of context something.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh the headline, and then you read the details and
you're like, that's not what the headline was, right.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I know I'm going a little bit out of order
of the book, but I will say I thought it
was very weird.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Two things.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
One that they didn't tell everyone the show was ending,
and that everyone found out on their own, like ed
Herman found out from Like did she say like his dentist.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It was I think he was in a video store.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Oh something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, like ed Herman found out from that, Like they
only told Lauren and Alexis, And I just think that,
you know, maybe that's why I was young then. And
also like news then was so different, right, Like she
got like told a dinner that, like, you know, whatever,
(08:59):
the show was canceled?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
No, no, was it?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Did she find out that the show was getting canceled when
she was at dinner the waiter came up or that
the revival's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Know that the show was cancing the show was getting canceled.
She was out with a friend and the like her
or her manager or somebody called the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, like such a weird time, right, but like news
spread so fast now, like unfortunately with like a lot
of celebrity deaths sometimes like TMZ knows like announced it
before the family knows. Like it's just things like that
where I felt really bad when she was saying, like,
you know, she wished she called everyone in the cast
(09:36):
and told them and she didn't, but you know, it
is what it is. And at least they got to
all come back and they cherished it. But again I'm
jumping around. Do you remember where you were when Prince died?
Because I thought it was so interesting when she was like, oh,
and then we were on set the day Prince died,
And I'm like, so that day when I I knew
(09:58):
where I was, Gilmore Girls was filming.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It was such a weird thought.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I do not remember. I remember Michael Jackson dying, but
I do not remember where I was when I heard
the Prince died.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Prince dying was maybe because I was already working in entertainment.
They filmed in Burbank. I was down the street at
the iHeart office and I was working with Ryan Secrets
at the time the morning show, and we had it
was just after ten am when the news came out,
so like we were just done with the show and
then and we were about to all leave for the day,
(10:32):
like I would think it was like close to eleven
and we were about to leave, and the news broke
and we all went back to our desks and then
started getting like callers to like like planning out the
next morning of like would you like to call in
and like talk about Prince and this and that and
stuff like that. But I just thought it was wild
that I was down the street from where from where
(10:53):
they were going.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, I don't remember what I was doing, And actually
I'm going to look it up and see, I don't
even remember what that actual it was.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I would think it was like in April or May.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
April twenty first, twenty sixteen, sixteen. Yeah, yeah, I was probably.
I was probably at work.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Which makes you makes it kind of crazy because didn't
the revival come out in twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It did in No, it was November. It was around Thanksgiving. Yeah,
so they shot from May from February through May of
twenty A.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Quick turnaround, I think.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, what did you think about Lauren going back and
watching the show, even though she hates watching anything she's
in not Killmore Girls?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, I thought it was fun to hear her her
takes on everything, and I love how she pointed out
like the technology and stuff that was at the time,
and the styles, like the hair styles and the fashion
and all that. So I thought it was fun. One
note I did make was she because you and I
(11:57):
talked about this when we recorded for that episode. How
weird it was that Max proposed over the phone. I
love that she called that out because you and I
called that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
We're like, really, yeah, so she said, she said season two.
If you watch was it season two or was it
season one? Now I'm blanking.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I think it was season two.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
She said, if you watch the season premiere and the
season finale back to back, the way they talk, is
that the season that they started talking faster.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, which is the season we're watching right now. So
I have to I thought when I read them in
the book, and I'm like, oh, I have to look for
that when I'm watching the episodes, and I keep forgetting
so I'm going to have it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, I know I will put it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
But I mean, I think she meant, if you like,
watch it back, like I would love to go back
and watch the premiere in the finale and just compare.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah, because it kind of ramped up.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And then also I was thinking, do you think she
actually watched everything or she skimmed.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I think she probably skimmed and just watched moralized scenes
like I can't. I don't see her like a lot
of time on you know, Luke and Nicole or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
so probably that would be my guess was she probably
just watched the Laura I scenes because otherwise it would
take her a really.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Long, really long time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I I also did like how the wind she started
talking about, Like the very beginning of talking about Gilmore Girls,
she really shouted out almost every single actor in her book,
from Scott to Melissa to Yannik, like everyone she to Rose, like,
she really called everyone out. And like it may it
(13:37):
makes you think, and I know we're very talking Gilmore,
but mind you, that's a lot of what the book was.
It made you really think, like those were there was
something she said. I wish I had the quote in
front of me, but I don't. But there was like
nothing like it on TV at the time, Like it
was everything was very like sexy, and you know, this
(13:59):
was like an actual like if you were to walk
down your street, like these are the types of people
you would see, right, And I think that's what made
the show special.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I agree, And I remember. So I didn't watch
it when it originally aired. I watched it in twenty sixteen, actually,
but I remember at the time and I think this
is maybe a publicity issue. You didn't watch it because
everything else that was on the air at the time
(14:27):
was a teen drama, and I was like in my
mid thirties, and so I thought, I mean like I
was aware of it, like I'd see the ads for
it and stuff, and I just thought it was another
one of those you know, like the OC and you
know all those other teen shows that were on the
CW at the time, And so that was one of
(14:48):
the reasons why I didn't watch it, because I'm like, eh,
you know, I don't need to watch that. I didn't.
Had I known at the time of how it was
sort of a multi generational family drama, I probably would
have watched it back then, but the way that it
was marketed, I felt like it was because it was
on the CW, and the CW was brand new, Yeah,
and a lot of their shows were.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, no, well didn't it start. It started as a
WB and then it was.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was a WB, but even WB was was showing
a lot of those shows at at that time.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, I because I watched it obviously when it aired,
mainly because my mom was watching it and I my
mom told me I would like the show. So it
really started with my mom and so then we started
watching it together. But I remember I wasn't allowed to
watch the OC until I was a little bit older
(15:42):
because the OC was more like drugs and alcohol. Let
me start watching it when I was like like in
like eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Okay, the OC was.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I think I caught the OC like on its tail
end season, like I was like towards the end. But
I remember around the same time was this show called Summerland.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Remember summer Land with Laura Lachlan or Jess McCartney. That
was zac Efron's first show, which is why it kind
of then went from like me liking zac Efron and
that to like high school musical.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But they mentioned Summerland and Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yes, yes they do, and I think it crossed over
and I think it was it. I mean, we could
go back and look, but if I remember correctly, at
one point it was on the same it was on
the same night.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Mmm, So I think that's why.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
But yeah, no, it's it's funny how like you thought
of it like, oh, it was a teen show. But
then like my mom was like, oh she would like
toorrow like this. Yeah, so it's just funny.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They did say when.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
They gave them the Thursday night slot in the beginning,
I was like, Thursday Night's great, what is she talking about?
But I think it's because she meant, like, oh, like
Friends is on right.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
They were directly competing with Friends, which is another reason
that I didn't watch it back then, is because I
was watching Friends.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You can only pick one show at a time.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Right that first season. So yeah, I think that was
the fact that they because Friends was already was a
massive hit already when Gilmour came on, So the fact
that they even survived against it for one season was
pretty amazing, and then they.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
One other thing that I liked in her recap of
the original show was the fact that she did not
remember that Lorela and Chris got married. Oh my god,
they blanked that out of her memory.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You know, the same.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I think we all like, I remember when we were
watching back this show with Scott the first time around.
Once we got to season seven, I was like, I
don't remember anything, and then every episode I was like,
I remember it, And as the episodes went on, I'm like,
this happened. But I am someone who stops watching at
the end of season six, to be honest, when I
(17:58):
do my rewatches. So but I will say, well, okay,
it's funny you say that because at the Tony's this year,
did you.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Ever watch Glee?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, I mean episodes, but not we got it.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So the very very end of Glee, because Liam Michelle
was in it, Jonathan Groff and Darren Chris, I have
a point.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm getting there.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
There was a question someone asked on the red carpet saying,
who do you who do you think something along the
lines of like, who do you think Rachel Barry, who's
Liam Michelle's character, is voting for at the Tonys or
something this year?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And Jonathan Off was like, of course it was.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Basically I'm not going to get two details, but Rachel
Barry at the end of the show is pregnant, and
both Darren Chris and Jonathan Groff forgot whose baby she
was pregnant with. It was Darren's baby. No, oh my god,
now I'm mixing it up. Either way, no one could
remember whose baby she was pregnant with. And then it
makes me think Glee was the same way where the
(19:07):
last season was so sad to film and it was
so different that they probably just all blacked it out,
like how they did this season of Gilmour Girls, not
that they had lost anyone, but well they lost Amy
and Dan on that season as but you know, not
physically but right supporting.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Also not a season that people talk about, like right,
the quotable stuff like OI with the Poodles already or
like season three.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah exactly exactly, because the viewers had moved on by
then too. Yeah. So yeah, so I think season seven
just in general does not get yeah love because of
the whole Christopher thing. But I love that she just
completely forgot that they had been married.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I know, I am.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I also like that she talked a little bit about
Peter Krausa.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, it was kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It's kind of.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Sad when the book was released they were still together.
Yeah so now knowing because they were together for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, like ten or eleven years.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah yeah, but I did.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I did, as someone in my thirties who was single,
I did kind of like appreciate the way she spoke
about the years she was single, just because I think
that she didn't really like hate on it. Yeah, she
was more just like didn't find the person at that time,
and then I in my forties I found them, so Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's like you don't know when the train is coming
or I forget exactly how she phrased it.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
But now when you think about it now, it's sad because, right,
I know.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Because you can obviously when you're reading it, you can
tell obviously she doesn't know the future. She's going to
be together forever. I mean that. I think that's what
we all think when we're in a misship. But yeah, so,
knowing how it turned out, it was kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I did find so, being the you know, the nitpicky
brain that I have, I actually did find a mistake
in when she was rewatching the show which part she mentioned?
I wrote it down. It was it's on page seventy
three if you have the hardback, and she she's talking
(21:11):
about Oh wait, no, page seventy three is where she's
talking about it's weird that Max proposed on the phone. Yeah,
there's a there's a part where she's talking about the
DVD and the camera that Christopher got her. She said
it was for Rory's graduation, but it wasn't. It was
(21:32):
for Laurlized graduation when she graduated from business school. Oh,
she said Rory's graduation in the book, and it wasn't
Rory's graduation.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It was Laura.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I just had to call it that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Speaking of graduation, it wasn't the graduation episode, but to
made me think of like a big episode. I didn't
realize for the one hundredth episode, like all those people
of that their friends and family were in the wasn't
no sorry, was it graduation or was it the val renewal.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I know her sister was in the graduation episode. I'm
not sure about the vow renewal. I know she packed
a lot of people into A Year in the Life.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh yeah, you like her?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, which, by the way, now I want to go
back and watch May Whitman's scene.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I didn't realize she was like deathly ill, Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You know, reading the book made me want to watch
the whole thing again. And so I actually I was
folding laundry last night and I put it on while
I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
On the Life.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, I was watching the opening of A Year in
the Life. So I watched like the first couple of scenes.
I'm like, oh, it makes me just want to watch
it again.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, I think it's I think I had mentioned this
to you, but or to everyone on the podcast, but
I was at the premiere of A Year in the Life. Hmmm,
so I got to see the first episode in the theater,
in the theater where they did it. And it's kind
of wild that this book came out like right at
that time, around right the book.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, yeah, she actually mentions I was going to talk
about this in the paperback. So I actually have both.
I have the heartback and the paperback. The paperback when
they came out, they put a bonus chapter in it. Oh,
so I bought the paperback last week because I wanted
to read the bonus chapter. And she mentions talking about
(23:22):
the release date her the book came out like within
a week. I forget the exact date, but it was
within a week marketing, I know, right sure that was
not an accident, but yeah, they were within a week
of each other.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Wait, and now I want to get the book for
the bonus chapter that I missed out on that was
not in the audiobook.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'll take pictures and send it to you.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
By the way, I have the hardcover of the original,
so yeah, I definitely don't have the bonus.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, it's cute. It's a few little anecdotes from updates
from June twenty seventeen. Is the is the bonus chapter,
so it's cute little stories in there.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I like it well, I mean overall, I think for
any Gilmore girls, and I liked this is my favorite
book she's done more than the other one that we read.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But this is more about her life and it's more
about Gilmore.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So I think anyone who wants a little bit more
Gilmore insight, Yeah, this is the book.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, and it has some I like the pictures that
she put in it. It's got like pictures from college
and her childhood and and.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I googled them.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
She mentions like in the book, she's like, please refer
to picture four.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And I was like, picture.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Four, that's right. You don't get that on the audio, was.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Like in the car listening like over the weekend, I'm like,
I don't have a picture four.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, there's some really cute pictures from her childhood in there,
so I like that she wasn't too Yeah, she because
some of them were kind of embarrassing, and she wasn't
like too embarrassed to put them in.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So well, it was a fun one if you read
it before we talked about it. Great if not go
get the book is actually really really good.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, definitely definitely recommended.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Alrighty, well, thanks for listening to this special episode of
I'm All Intel Meeting book Club Edition, and we'll see
you next week Meeting adjourned. Hey everybody, and don't forget
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh that's you.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I Am All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast is welcome back to another
episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, Tara
and Susanne.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, And today.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
We're going to be talking about well, actually it's a
special book Club edition. We're not recapping an episode, but
we're going to be talking about Lauren Graham's book Talking
as Fast as I Can from Gilmore Girls to Gilmore Girls,
which she released in twenty sixteen. Have you read this
one before?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I did? I? Actually I read the hardcover first, and
then I listened to the audio book when we were
driving to Pop and so we listened to the audiobook
there and back. It was exactly the right length. And
so then when I reread it for this conversation, So
this is the third time I've been through it, so
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got it.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, this was my second. I read it when it
first came out twenty sixteen. So there was a lot
where I was like, oh, this is familiar, but a
lot that I was like, oh, I didn't remember this.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Like I couldn't talk about it if I didn't refresh.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, exactly exactly. It's a fun read. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's a really it's a really really fun read.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I like the audiobook because it is as Loralai Gilmore
as it's gonna get.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Do like there was a lot I didn't know, Like
I didn't know she was born in Hawaii and then
moved to Japan, Like I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Isn't that crazy? And her first word was actually in Japanese.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, and then I was like I literally paused and
I was like, wait a minute, is this correct?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Like I thought she was like messing with us. Also,
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You remember from when you listen to the audiobook, but
was she used a male's voice when it was her dad?
Was that her actual Was that her actual dad?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I think it was. Yeah. I think it was her
real dad, Okay, which is cool.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
That was cool, Yeah, yeah, because it was like and
it sounded like he literally like sent in a voice
note or something like the quality of it was so funny,
which but I liked it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It kind of gave it like its little flair.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right right. Yeah. I enjoyed. I like how she talked
about both, like she went through the first seven seasons,
and then at the end of the book, she goes
through and talks about what it was like to play
that role again, because at the time, like now, it's
every there are everybody's doing a reboot and a remake
(02:53):
and you know, whatever you want to call it, So
it's not it's it was less common at the time
that an actor would go back and play the same
role that they did, you know, forever ago. Like now
it's more common, but back then it was pretty unique.
So it was I like how she really liked that
she got a second chance to do all of it,
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and how she appreciated it so much more the second
time around, because it was like a gift that they
had been given. So I thought it was fun. I
enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I am you know, for the first time.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I'm always I'm always someone who I'm like, I want more,
I want more, like I want more Gilmore girls. And
I think this time reading the book, I'm okay if
they don't do anything new.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I have felt that way for a while. I kind
of like, I mean, we all know who the dad is, Like,
it's it's really not a cliffhanger, which if you haven't
read first, well, the first yeah, for sure. So if
you haven't read the book, she mentions, she she asked
(04:01):
several different people that were involved. She's like, isn't this
a cliffhanger? And she she was kind of stuck on it.
But we know, you know, now that we've all like
watched it one hundred times and analyzed the crap out
of it, we know it's not really a cliffhanger, like
just timing wise, there's only it has to be the time.
It just doesn't work with anybody else. Yeah, I mean,
I think the viewer can continue the story in their
(04:23):
own head, Like I like to imagine Luke and Lorelei
as grandparents, you know, like because when I imagine it,
I can make it what I want. I don't have
to go with what Amy gives us. So I as
much as I love new content, like I loved when
they did the Walmart commercial, like it was so fun
to see them together again, like I don't I don't
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like if there is no more, I would be okay
with that too.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, I think, like I was, I was thinking about
it because specifically as I was reading the book. There
are some shows. I think there are some shows that
I watched Growing Up. That did a great job. I
think Fuller House with House did a great job. I
think that Girl Meets World with Boy Meets World was
it was. I didn't mind it, but I still go
(05:09):
back to Boy Meets World, not Girl Meets World. So
it made me think, like, what I like the continuation
of the story of just because think about it, You're
not gonna get everyone back, so you're the story would
only really continue. Sorry I'm going on a complete different tangent,
but you would only really get the story from Logan
(05:30):
and Lorelai and their family. Now, yeah, you wouldn't and
Laura I would pop in as the grandma like you
don't have Richard. Emily would pop in as much as
she could. Luke still works the diner. But then you
really like everyone else is like a secondary character now
they're not the main character.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So exactly, it made me think like do I want it?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Not?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Really?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I like My Comfort Show the way it is.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Right and you can't you know, the original run of
the show was lightning in a bottle and that is
hard to recapture. And that's why I tell people who
haven't seen the a year in the life. I tell
them don't expect it to be a continuation of the original.
Think of it as its own thing. Think of it
(06:18):
like a completely different show because the characters are the same,
but it doesn't have the same look and feel and
it doesn't make you feel the same way inside as
the original show did. It's I think I actually like
the revival. I do too, on its own merits. But
if somebody's that it's expecting it to be like the
(06:38):
original run is going to be disappointed. So so yeah,
I think standing on its own is it holds up
better than if you think of it as a continuation
of the area.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I think that's I think that's why I liked it
because I kind of knew that it was for you know, movies,
and then it was done. It wasn't like a season one,
you know, and then it's like, oh, yeah, it's going
to get canceled. It was like kind of like I
already know there's only four and that was it. Like
I kind of already had that in my head to
(07:09):
go back to the book. I didn't realize that when
they did that ATX Festival that they were already in
talks for it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I didn't remember that either, because I thought ATX was
what gave them the idea and they started talking after that.
I didn't realize they had already been kind of kicking
it around before.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I also loved when Lauren was like, Scott had mentioned
on a podcast. In my head, I was like, well,
we weren't doing this show yet. I don't know what
podcast you went on and said that, Yeah, I'd love
to find out.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I can't remember which podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But also I'm sure someone spun it right.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It was like they would be like, oh, like Scott,
would you like to do another show, and Scott's probably like, yeah,
I'd love to, and then it's like, let's let's make Amy,
Let's make it happen.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And then that got like spun out of control.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Right, I mean, we've we've all seen that happen, Like one, yeah,
tiny little comment gets taken out of context something.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh the headline, and then you read the details and
you're like, that's not what the headline was, right.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I know I'm going a little bit out of order
of the book, but I will say I thought it
was very weird.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Two things.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
One that they didn't tell everyone the show was ending,
and that everyone found out on their own, like ed
Herman found out from Like did she say like his dentist.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It was I think he was in a video store.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Oh something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, like ed Herman found out from that, Like they
only told Lauren and Alexis, And I just think that,
you know, maybe that's why I was young then. And
also like news then was so different, right, Like she
got like told a dinner that, like, you know, whatever,
(08:59):
the show was canceled?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
No, no, was it?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Did she find out that the show was getting canceled when
she was at dinner the waiter came up or that
the revival's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Know that the show was cancing the show was getting canceled.
She was out with a friend and the like her
or her manager or somebody called the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, like such a weird time, right, but like news
spread so fast now, like unfortunately with like a lot
of celebrity deaths sometimes like TMZ knows like announced it
before the family knows. Like it's just things like that
where I felt really bad when she was saying, like,
you know, she wished she called everyone in the cast
(09:36):
and told them and she didn't, but you know, it
is what it is. And at least they got to
all come back and they cherished it. But again I'm
jumping around. Do you remember where you were when Prince died?
Because I thought it was so interesting when she was like, oh,
and then we were on set the day Prince died,
And I'm like, so that day when I I knew
(09:58):
where I was, Gilmore Girls was filming.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It was such a weird thought.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I do not remember. I remember Michael Jackson dying, but
I do not remember where I was when I heard
the Prince died.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Prince dying was maybe because I was already working in entertainment.
They filmed in Burbank. I was down the street at
the iHeart office and I was working with Ryan Secrets
at the time the morning show, and we had it
was just after ten am when the news came out,
so like we were just done with the show and
then and we were about to all leave for the day,
(10:32):
like I would think it was like close to eleven
and we were about to leave, and the news broke
and we all went back to our desks and then
started getting like callers to like like planning out the
next morning of like would you like to call in
and like talk about Prince and this and that and
stuff like that. But I just thought it was wild
that I was down the street from where from where
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they were going.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, I don't remember what I was doing, And actually
I'm going to look it up and see, I don't
even remember what that actual it was.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I would think it was like in April or May.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
April twenty first, twenty sixteen, sixteen. Yeah, yeah, I was probably.
I was probably at work.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Which makes you makes it kind of crazy because didn't
the revival come out in twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It did in No, it was November. It was around Thanksgiving. Yeah,
so they shot from May from February through May of
twenty A.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Quick turnaround, I think.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, what did you think about Lauren going back and
watching the show, even though she hates watching anything she's
in not Killmore Girls?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, I thought it was fun to hear her her
takes on everything, and I love how she pointed out
like the technology and stuff that was at the time,
and the styles, like the hair styles and the fashion
and all that. So I thought it was fun. One
note I did make was she because you and I
(11:57):
talked about this when we recorded for that episode. How
weird it was that Max proposed over the phone. I
love that she called that out because you and I
called that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
We're like, really, yeah, so she said, she said season two.
If you watch was it season two or was it
season one? Now I'm blanking.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I think it was season two.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
She said, if you watch the season premiere and the
season finale back to back, the way they talk, is
that the season that they started talking faster.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, which is the season we're watching right now. So
I have to I thought when I read them in
the book, and I'm like, oh, I have to look for
that when I'm watching the episodes, and I keep forgetting
so I'm going to have it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, I know I will put it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
But I mean, I think she meant, if you like,
watch it back, like I would love to go back
and watch the premiere in the finale and just compare.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah, because it kind of ramped up.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And then also I was thinking, do you think she
actually watched everything or she skimmed.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I think she probably skimmed and just watched moralized scenes
like I can't. I don't see her like a lot
of time on you know, Luke and Nicole or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
so probably that would be my guess was she probably
just watched the Laura I scenes because otherwise it would
take her a really.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Long, really long time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I I also did like how the wind she started
talking about, Like the very beginning of talking about Gilmore Girls,
she really shouted out almost every single actor in her book,
from Scott to Melissa to Yannik, like everyone she to Rose, like,
she really called everyone out. And like it may it
(13:37):
makes you think, and I know we're very talking Gilmore,
but mind you, that's a lot of what the book was.
It made you really think, like those were there was
something she said. I wish I had the quote in
front of me, but I don't. But there was like
nothing like it on TV at the time, Like it
was everything was very like sexy, and you know, this
(13:59):
was like an actual like if you were to walk
down your street, like these are the types of people
you would see, right, And I think that's what made
the show special.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I agree, And I remember. So I didn't watch
it when it originally aired. I watched it in twenty sixteen, actually,
but I remember at the time and I think this
is maybe a publicity issue. You didn't watch it because
everything else that was on the air at the time
(14:27):
was a teen drama, and I was like in my
mid thirties, and so I thought, I mean like I
was aware of it, like I'd see the ads for
it and stuff, and I just thought it was another
one of those you know, like the OC and you
know all those other teen shows that were on the
CW at the time, And so that was one of
(14:48):
the reasons why I didn't watch it, because I'm like, eh,
you know, I don't need to watch that. I didn't.
Had I known at the time of how it was
sort of a multi generational family drama, I probably would
have watched it back then, but the way that it
was marketed, I felt like it was because it was
on the CW, and the CW was brand new, Yeah,
and a lot of their shows were.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, no, well didn't it start. It started as a
WB and then it was.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was a WB, but even WB was was showing
a lot of those shows at at that time.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, I because I watched it obviously when it aired,
mainly because my mom was watching it and I my
mom told me I would like the show. So it
really started with my mom and so then we started
watching it together. But I remember I wasn't allowed to
watch the OC until I was a little bit older
(15:42):
because the OC was more like drugs and alcohol. Let
me start watching it when I was like like in
like eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Okay, the OC was.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I think I caught the OC like on its tail
end season, like I was like towards the end. But
I remember around the same time was this show called Summerland.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Remember summer Land with Laura Lachlan or Jess McCartney. That
was zac Efron's first show, which is why it kind
of then went from like me liking zac Efron and
that to like high school musical.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But they mentioned Summerland and Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yes, yes they do, and I think it crossed over
and I think it was it. I mean, we could
go back and look, but if I remember correctly, at
one point it was on the same it was on
the same night.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Mmm, So I think that's why.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
But yeah, no, it's it's funny how like you thought
of it like, oh, it was a teen show. But
then like my mom was like, oh she would like
toorrow like this. Yeah, so it's just funny.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They did say when.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
They gave them the Thursday night slot in the beginning,
I was like, Thursday Night's great, what is she talking about?
But I think it's because she meant, like, oh, like
Friends is on right.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
They were directly competing with Friends, which is another reason
that I didn't watch it back then, is because I
was watching Friends.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You can only pick one show at a time.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Right that first season. So yeah, I think that was
the fact that they because Friends was already was a
massive hit already when Gilmour came on, So the fact
that they even survived against it for one season was
pretty amazing, and then they.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
One other thing that I liked in her recap of
the original show was the fact that she did not
remember that Lorela and Chris got married. Oh my god,
they blanked that out of her memory.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You know, the same.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I think we all like, I remember when we were
watching back this show with Scott the first time around.
Once we got to season seven, I was like, I
don't remember anything, and then every episode I was like,
I remember it, And as the episodes went on, I'm like,
this happened. But I am someone who stops watching at
the end of season six, to be honest, when I
(17:58):
do my rewatches. So but I will say, well, okay,
it's funny you say that because at the Tony's this year,
did you.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Ever watch Glee?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, I mean episodes, but not we got it.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So the very very end of Glee, because Liam Michelle
was in it, Jonathan Groff and Darren Chris, I have
a point.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm getting there.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
There was a question someone asked on the red carpet saying,
who do you who do you think something along the
lines of like, who do you think Rachel Barry, who's
Liam Michelle's character, is voting for at the Tonys or
something this year?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And Jonathan Off was like, of course it was.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Basically I'm not going to get two details, but Rachel
Barry at the end of the show is pregnant, and
both Darren Chris and Jonathan Groff forgot whose baby she
was pregnant with. It was Darren's baby. No, oh my god,
now I'm mixing it up. Either way, no one could
remember whose baby she was pregnant with. And then it
makes me think Glee was the same way where the
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last season was so sad to film and it was
so different that they probably just all blacked it out,
like how they did this season of Gilmour Girls, not
that they had lost anyone, but well they lost Amy
and Dan on that season as but you know, not
physically but right supporting.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Also not a season that people talk about, like right,
the quotable stuff like OI with the Poodles already or
like season three.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah exactly exactly, because the viewers had moved on by
then too. Yeah. So yeah, so I think season seven
just in general does not get yeah love because of
the whole Christopher thing. But I love that she just
completely forgot that they had been married.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I know, I am.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I also like that she talked a little bit about
Peter Krausa.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, it was kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It's kind of.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Sad when the book was released they were still together.
Yeah so now knowing because they were together for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, like ten or eleven years.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah yeah, but I did.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I did, as someone in my thirties who was single,
I did kind of like appreciate the way she spoke
about the years she was single, just because I think
that she didn't really like hate on it. Yeah, she
was more just like didn't find the person at that time,
and then I in my forties I found them, so Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's like you don't know when the train is coming
or I forget exactly how she phrased it.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
But now when you think about it now, it's sad because, right,
I know.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Because you can obviously when you're reading it, you can
tell obviously she doesn't know the future. She's going to
be together forever. I mean that. I think that's what
we all think when we're in a misship. But yeah, so,
knowing how it turned out, it was kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I did find so, being the you know, the nitpicky
brain that I have, I actually did find a mistake
in when she was rewatching the show which part she mentioned?
I wrote it down. It was it's on page seventy
three if you have the hardback, and she she's talking
(21:11):
about Oh wait, no, page seventy three is where she's
talking about it's weird that Max proposed on the phone. Yeah,
there's a there's a part where she's talking about the
DVD and the camera that Christopher got her. She said
it was for Rory's graduation, but it wasn't. It was
(21:32):
for Laurlized graduation when she graduated from business school. Oh,
she said Rory's graduation in the book, and it wasn't
Rory's graduation.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It was Laura.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I just had to call it that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Speaking of graduation, it wasn't the graduation episode, but to
made me think of like a big episode. I didn't
realize for the one hundredth episode, like all those people
of that their friends and family were in the wasn't
no sorry, was it graduation or was it the val renewal.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I know her sister was in the graduation episode. I'm
not sure about the vow renewal. I know she packed
a lot of people into A Year in the Life.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh yeah, you like her?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, which, by the way, now I want to go
back and watch May Whitman's scene.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I didn't realize she was like deathly ill, Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You know, reading the book made me want to watch
the whole thing again. And so I actually I was
folding laundry last night and I put it on while
I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
On the Life.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, I was watching the opening of A Year in
the Life. So I watched like the first couple of scenes.
I'm like, oh, it makes me just want to watch
it again.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, I think it's I think I had mentioned this
to you, but or to everyone on the podcast, but
I was at the premiere of A Year in the Life. Hmmm,
so I got to see the first episode in the theater,
in the theater where they did it. And it's kind
of wild that this book came out like right at
that time, around right the book.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, yeah, she actually mentions I was going to talk
about this in the paperback. So I actually have both.
I have the heartback and the paperback. The paperback when
they came out, they put a bonus chapter in it. Oh,
so I bought the paperback last week because I wanted
to read the bonus chapter. And she mentions talking about
(23:22):
the release date her the book came out like within
a week. I forget the exact date, but it was
within a week marketing, I know, right sure that was
not an accident, but yeah, they were within a week
of each other.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Wait, and now I want to get the book for
the bonus chapter that I missed out on that was
not in the audiobook.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'll take pictures and send it to you.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
By the way, I have the hardcover of the original,
so yeah, I definitely don't have the bonus.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, it's cute. It's a few little anecdotes from updates
from June twenty seventeen. Is the is the bonus chapter,
so it's cute little stories in there.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I like it well, I mean overall, I think for
any Gilmore girls, and I liked this is my favorite
book she's done more than the other one that we read.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But this is more about her life and it's more
about Gilmore.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So I think anyone who wants a little bit more
Gilmore insight, Yeah, this is the book.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, and it has some I like the pictures that
she put in it. It's got like pictures from college
and her childhood and and.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I googled them.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
She mentions like in the book, she's like, please refer
to picture four.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And I was like, picture.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Four, that's right. You don't get that on the audio, was.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Like in the car listening like over the weekend, I'm like,
I don't have a picture four.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, there's some really cute pictures from her childhood in there,
so I like that she wasn't too Yeah, she because
some of them were kind of embarrassing, and she wasn't
like too embarrassed to put them in.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So well, it was a fun one if you read
it before we talked about it. Great if not go
get the book is actually really really good.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, definitely definitely recommended.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Alrighty, well, thanks for listening to this special episode of
I'm All Intel Meeting book Club Edition, and we'll see
you next week Meeting adjourned. Hey everybody, and don't forget
(25:43):
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