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October 7, 2025 21 mins

It’s a special episode of Town Meeting to celebrate the 25th Anniversary of Gilmore Girls!

Suzanne and Jackie are taking you inside the ultimate fan experience at The Grove Los Angeles!  

Plus, find out the true connection The Grove has with Gilmore Girls…did Amy Sherman Palladino find inspiration from this location?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh it's you. I am all in Town Meeting with
Suzanne French and Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hello everyone,
and welcome to a special episode of Town Meeting. This

(00:29):
is Suzanne French and I am here with our guest host,
Jackie Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Hello for a special reason.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yes, I'm so excited. Usually Jackie is not participating in
the zoom because she's busy running the technical stuff behind
the scenes. But this past weekend, Jackie and I had
the privilege of being hosted by Warner Brothers at the
pop Up Stars Hollow event that they held at The
Grove in Los Angeles, and so in honor of the

(01:03):
twenty fifth anniversary of the show, we wanted to do
this special quick episode and tell you about our experiences.
So what did you think, Jackie?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I loved it. It was fun and it was Tar's
birthday weekend, so that's what I stepped in. Yes, I'm like,
don't work on your birthday weekend, so even though it's
not work for you guys because you love the show,
but I was like, okay, I'll step in. And I
live in San Diego, so I came up to La
and it was fun. I love the grove and so
I've been there several times. I was telling Suzanne about

(01:34):
how beautiful it is for Christmas, and she says she
hasn't been there in years, but it was nice. I
always love going there.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's easy parking, yeah, yeah, the huge parking structure and yeah.
So the grove is right next to the original La
Farmers Market and I had been to the farmers Market
years ago. I had never been to the grove, so
this was the first time for me, and I loved it.
It was really pretty. It's it's a shopping it's a

(02:02):
shopping area, but it's not a mall. I've heard people
call it a mall, and that really doesn't do it justice.
Like it's just nice. It's like an outdoor It's there's
like a big fountain in a little park area and
there's just you know, restaurants and shops and places to
sit and just enjoy the environment. So it's not it's

(02:22):
it's more like a hanging out place than I don't know,
like but I think mall. I think, like, go get
your shopping done and then go home. Like it's not really,
it's not like it was in the eighties where we
would hang out in the mall right, do that anymore?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
So the grove is great, and so now that I've
been there, I really want to come back and see
the Christmas Tree.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right, And it's like it's very much a tourist traction.
So there are a lot of like events that go
on there in the middle. They even have some premieres there.
They shoot shows there. It's right next to CBS studios
where they shoot The Prices, right where they shoot Dancing
with Stars, and so it's very center really Los Angeles located.
If you ever come visit, you most likely will go
to the grove. So it's perfect, perfect little central location

(03:09):
for the Gilmour event. So yeah, cool.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
So let's okay, let's talk about the actual event. So
it was it was physically small, but they packed so
many details into this small area. You really did feel
the stars hollow vibe.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I thought, yeah, totally. And that's what I noticed, too,
is like all the details even you notice like every
single little thing. And so what it does is you
go through your lines and it takes you straight into
Luke Steiner and then that enters into the area, like
the grassy area of the grove. They had loweralized jeep,

(03:51):
they had the thousand Daisies, they had a new stand
which was the merch stand, and then in the middle
of course they had because see so and they had
the stars hollow sign, so it's like you do a
little circle around, yeah, and it there stars hollow, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
And inside Luke's Diner they were serving either coffee or
hot chocolate. You could take your pick. And they also
had little like little donut holes for everybody, so it
was it was like you go to Luke's and you
get your coffee and your donut, like it was. It
was perfect. It was. It was a great experience.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I thought they had like in the little coffee cups.
They're like little like they're size of shot glasses, so
you get like, yeah, they're like the.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Little Dixie cups if anybody remembers.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But they even had like Luke's sign printed on it,
so it's like the tiny little details. And then they
had a very handsome Luke looking esque coffee guy and
there I was like talking to it. I was like,
he's kind of cute. Yeah, he had a beard and
all of that. I forget what his name is, but
he was there and it would have been so cool

(04:58):
if like Scott was in pop out from like the curtain,
like surprise people like. But but no, there's plenty to do,
you know, without a cast member showing up or anything.
It was such like a fan fan thing to do
if you're a big fan, it's just go and get
your your photos and everything.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, and they had they had a lot of like
staff members available so they would take your picture with
your phone and stuff, so you didn't have to try
to do it all yourself. It just was. It was
very well planned, I thought, and well organized, Like the
traffic flow was good. They had a bunch of merchandise,
which was fun. We both bought a few little things

(05:39):
and did.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yes. I got my sister in law a T shirt
because she's visiting from England and when I told her,
she arrived literally the night before, and when I told her,
she was like, I've been watching Gilmore Girls forever and
I'm like what, She's like, yeah, I even have it because.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
On her flight from you know, London to la.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
She showed me in season five this once she had
all downloaded on her and I was just like, oh,
so I felt bad. So I got her a shirt,
and then I got a magnet and an ornament.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, Zanne got more. I got some small things. I
got a magnet, a couple stickers, a couple postcards, and
then they had these really cute dish towels. Oh yeah,
I haven't seen before, and I have it right here.
It says when they were giving out free buttons too,

(06:31):
like each place you bought to get your picture, they
gave you a button. But the super cute dish towel,
we can take a picture of it. It says it's
like a little watercolor drawing of Laurel, I and Rory,
and it says reality has no place in our world.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
That is so cute right now, you guys. Suzanne was
checking out and she was like she looks up and
she was like, wait, what's that? Is that dish towel?
Like it's the last thing and it like her eyes
sparkled and wide eyed.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
What is that? I didn't see it out anywhere, Like
I only saw it behind the register when we were
checking out, and so that was like, I was like,
what is that? And then when I saw the little saying,
I'm like I need to have that because the.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Merch I mean the merch They had an umbrella that
had the Life and Death Brigade on it. They had
like a lounge fly bag that looked like the Chiltern
uniform and I'm just like and then they had these
cool jean jacket with all the patches of the logos
of everything, and it had like stars hollow sweaters that
say stars hollow on the back like the merch. Whoever
designs the merch for Warner Brothers is like so detailed

(07:34):
and so interesting. They had another like little canister you
know that you put on your counter in the kitchen,
was like flour and sugar, and they had one that
was for corn starch and it said Douce's Market. And
I was considering in it because I was like thinking,
I need another canister because we have our flower, sugar
and salt all that kind of stuff. And I didn't

(07:55):
get it because I was like, well, we have a
smaller kitchen, so I don't need another one. Really, Just
I just like things organized, but like little details like that.
I'm just amazed by all of it because of the
like I would go crazy, like I am a Gilba
Girls fan now, but like I'm on Suzanne's level when

(08:17):
it comes to Friends, And I've said that before, and
so like if I were Susande in your I go
crazy at the front store in the Wonder Brothers. Whenever
we get to go, I always yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
What's something.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So it's like it's like in my life, I'm either
like wearing something in Friends or there's something Friends right
next to me.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
So it's like that's.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
How I am with that. But you know, Gilmore girls,
it's the same way, you know with the march. It
was so cool.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I was talking to another fan. So there was
a group of people there that were from the Hallmark Channel,
and so I was talking to somebody that was in
that group. Her name was Laura. If she's listening, Hi,
Laura nice. And we were talking to We were complimenting
each other on each other's shirts, and she had a

(09:05):
shirt that I think it was the faux pose fhaux,
like that saying from the the episode with the the
when the Independence in burned down, I can't like this
the exact phrases.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Oh, I didn't know what that meant.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, it was from that episode. It was faux pose faux.
I can't remember how the whole thing goes. It's everybody's
gonna tell me in the comments, but it was really
cute and a relative had made it for her and
like embroidered it with AH And so we were talking
about how, you know, even as recently as a few
years ago, there wasn't a lot of Gilmore merch out there,

(09:44):
and now with the twenty fifth anniversary, there's so there's
just so many cute things out there and it's hard
not to buy everything.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know, I know, good stuff out there, but it's
like it's just the detailed the merch, the detail this
pop up. It's like when we were inside Luke Steiner,
you noticed this there was hardware like hanging on the
wall because it was William's hardware before. And then there
was there was like pictures and frames up on the wall.
They had of course the Omelet special on the chalkboard,

(10:14):
but there was you know, like small little frames of
like some receipt or something like or flyer for coffee
nine am two pm. I don't know, Yeah, all these
tiny little details. Lore Li's jeep was there. It's just
they just went all out for it. And the gazebo
was filled with you know, the fake leaves and everything

(10:36):
and pumpkins and it really did feel like you're in
Stars Hall. I mean, it was just so perfect for fans,
and they did organize it well. We went in before
it opened at eleven, but I did notice in ticketing
it was like you only come thirty minutes before, so
there wouldn't be a big line because if it was
open line, the line would have been, you know, all

(10:57):
the way down the Grove Street and to the Farmer's Market,
you know. So yeah, it was really really cool and
I'm I'm happy to be experiencing all this like Gilmore
esque stuff. It's just it's a fun vibe.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, it was really fun, Like I was when I
got home and I was just like, I want to
sit down and watch like five episodes of the show now.
Like it was, it just puts you like a happy place.
And shout out to Asia.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh yes, Asia hi a.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Staff member in the gazebo taking pictures and she was
so cute, like she would pose you just the right way,
and she was super enthusiastic and you could tell she
was happy to be there. It just it was I
don't know, the staff was so willing to help and
they were very friendly and it just was very well done.
I thought it was, like I said, it was very

(11:46):
It was physically small, but you didn't really feel that
when you like, it really did feel like stars Hollow
with they had the leaves everywhere and just it was
just really well decorated.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah. Yeah, and so I'll be posting a real for
this episode so you guys can physically see it. I
posted a little preview on I'm on in podcast page.
But yes, it is perfect for photo ops and it
was well well done. Like bravo to Warner Brothers. It
was really amazing.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, it was good. One other kind of interesting little
tie in that I don't think was intentional on the
part of Warner Brothers, but to me, it was significant
that they picked the grove to hold it out. I mean,

(12:38):
I'm sure they picked it because there's a ton of
foot traffic through there and it's you know, it's just
a popular place in LA but the history of that area.
It's on a big piece of land, like we mentioned
that has CBS Television City where they have shot a
bunch of shows over the years. The original Farmers Market

(12:58):
is there. It's like this huge piece the land. There's
the Pan Pacific Park on the other side, which is
where the Pan Pacific Auditorium used to be decades ago.
And so a funny thing about the history of this
particular piece of land is that it actually started. It
was a dairy farm in the eighteen late eighteen hundreds

(13:21):
owned by a man named Arthur Gilmore Gilmore and in
nineteen hundred, so he has this dairy farm and he
was going to expand it. So he was drilling a
well to get more water for the dairy cows, and
he struck oil instead of water. Now, if you've ever
watched even a single episode of Beverly Hillbillies, you know

(13:41):
that if you strike oil on your property, you instantly
become very rich, very quick. So he so Arthur Gilmore
and his son Earl quickly switched from dairy farming to
oil production. And because they had all this money, they

(14:02):
developed the land. They moved the they got the city
made them get rid of the oil production, and so
they started oil refining at a different location. So they
took this piece of land and they built all these
things on it. So there was Gilmore Field, which was
a baseball field, Gilmore Stadium, which had an auto racetrack

(14:23):
in the middle of it. More Drive in and then
of course Gilmore Gas, Like there were Gilmore gas stations,
over three thousand of them in the western US.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Whoa, and so, but this is more than just.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
A funny coincidence because the one of part of the
Gilmore Empire was Gilmore Bank. And so when Amy Sherman
Palladino had this idea for a show about a mother
and a daughter, she got the name Gilmore from Gilmore

(14:59):
Bank that was right there next to the Farmer's Market.
So this guy's name was Gilmour, Like, that's literally where
the bank came from, which I love. And so it's
just a little ti in that I'm sure probably wasn't
even on their mind when they picked the grove.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I had no idea, but.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's all right there. And then the Gilmore, the Gilmore
gas stations eventually got absorbed into Mobile.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Oh okay, well yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And the Gilmore Bank was actually still the Gilmore Bank
was there until like twenty thirteen, it was relatively Yeah,
it got bought out by a different bank. So and
if you ever make it over to the LA area
and you want to visit, if you go to the
farmers market, So the Gilmore Company still exists and it

(15:48):
still operates the Farmer's Market and owns that land.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh that's good. So somewhere there's like an Emily Gilmore
sitting on like you know, like fortunately, and maybe that
Gilmore has a daughter. And is you know living up
to the name in Los Angeles society. Yes, yes, so.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's it's because if you go to the Farmer's Market
you can find like little artifacts.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
They do have a.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't know if it's a recreation or if it's
just a restoration of a Gilmore gas station there. And
there's also one of the one of the streets that
you drive in on is Gilmore Lane, so there's like
a stoplight Gilmore sign.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
The open face parking lot, the one that's right by
the gas station is that one.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
On the other side. So it's not it's like it's
like south of where the main parking it's like the
other side, it's like south of the grove. Basically, it's
not on Google street View. I didn't get a picture
of it, but there's a stop right there and the
signs say Gilmore. So, oh my god, there's like little

(16:53):
traces of it still here and there. Well, we'll put
some pictures up, but yeah, I thought that was kind
of a fun. I like learning about like history, like.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh me too. And I've used to live in that area.
So when I was like in my twenties, I worked
at E News and I used to walk like from
Miracle Miles the like neighborhood, and so I used to
walk to work, but I would go to the grove
for like sometimes even errands, you know, because I need
something at Nordstrum or something like that, or or even

(17:24):
just like go get something to eat at the Farmer's Market.
And I've always seen that Gilmour little gas station replica
and you know the rigion.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You probably walked right past Gilmore Bank and it didn't think.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, probably because I was living there probably like twenty
oh No, because if you said twenty thirteen, I was
living there, like I think like twenty fifteen, so oh okay, yeah, yeah,
oh my god, that's ten years ago. Wow. Time a
lot of time flies by. Yeah, And yeah, I love
that neighborhood, like if that's a very touristy neighborhood as well,

(17:58):
they have like the Lacma there, they have the tarpets
all that, so it's like if you ever come visit,
you can go take a photo as a Gilmore Girls
van next to the Gilmore Gas.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, there's a ton of stuff there. Peterson Automotive Museum
is right there. Yeah, yeah, the Motion Picture Museum that's
in the old May Company building, like all of that
is right there on Wilshure and Fairfax. It's yeah, there's
just a ton of really cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, definitely cool.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
And it's not like the sketchy part either. It's like
it's fine to walk around.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh yeah, and like the houses, they are so cute.
And then I think like Warner Brothers is like giving
people a taste of what holidays made here, would's is
gonna be? So yeah, they even gave us a little like, oh,
buy tickets for a Holidays made here and so because
that's open and they're going to be going all out

(18:51):
this year, and I'm sure James will talk about it,
you know, yeah, he's gonna you know, we're gonna have
a podcast with James and Scott talking about the Star
ceremony this week. So yes, yeah, that'll give you more
information on that. But it was so well done and
it was so awesome. And one thing when I noticed
when we walked out as a fellow Swifty. This weekend,

(19:16):
the Life of show Girl got released, and there was
these stage doors that were popping up everywhere all over
the world, like London, everything. And I saw it like quickly,
like in my Instagram, my personal instagram, because I am
a swifty I follow all the like Easter egg stuff.
We walk out and there's people like looking up and
taking photos and there was a stage door there. I

(19:37):
was like, oh my gosh, my two worlds are Collidi,
so we're girls and Swifty and so I took it
and you go the QR code and it was a
link to her Fate Ophelia YouTube, her Fate Aphelia music
video that premiered yesterday so or Sunday. So yeah, it
was fun because I was like, oh, Taylor Swift can

(19:58):
kill my girls on one day day for Jackie, I know,
I know, I know. And I got myself a matchat
in you know, the Farmer's Market, but that's all I bought.
Other than that. It was. It was great. It was
it was a little free.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
It was fun hanging out and yeah seeing all the stuff.
So yeah, it was it was very cool. I know,
WB Studio Tour dot Com.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, anyways, that was a preview event. It was only
two days, so I'm sorry you won't be able to go.
But the little Gilmour gas station replica is still is
there all the time, so we're to come to La
and visit the grove. You can take a photo by that.
But as far as like this pop up event, because
it was for the twenty fifth celebration, it was only
Saturday and Sunday, so now it's gone. But you know,

(20:44):
holidays made here.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
So that wraps it up for this special episode of
Town Meeting. Uh Tara will be back with me next
time and we will continue our regular recap of the.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Episodes starting season three, making our way through.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
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