November 4, 2025 • 22 mins
Rory is starting to realize she’s a small fish in a big pond when it comes to applying to Harvard… is it still this hard to get into any colleges?
What moment was so far-fetched for Tara that it completely took her out of the episode?
Plus, did we miss something? Dean’s behavior has us questioning how he got from point A to point B with his thought process…
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all in again. Oh that's you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I Am all in Town Meeting with Suzanne French and
Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to
another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself,
Tara and Suzanne.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello, Today we're talking about season three, episode three, Application Anxiety,
which aired October eighth, two thousand and two. And did
you notice it said town meeting in the town meeting,
And so it made me think of our podcast No Idea.
It just said town meeting, and I was like, oh,
there we are. This is a pretty big episode. I
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feel like it's one that I always remember.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know, this is kind of an odd ball, but
it's one of my favorite episodes. Yeah, this episode.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Same like it's it's not like a big episode in
the sense of like nothing big happens, but weirdly I
like it and I always remember it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah. Yeah, so we did get something. We have Dave
media for the first time. So that turns out to
be a big thing exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, I didn't realize this was the episode until the
credits are rolling.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
In the beginning it said Adam Brode.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You know, I was like, oh, by the way, that
season two of Nobody Wants This is That out?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh, I haven't watched season one yet. I guess I should.
Everybody raves about it. I'm always kind.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Of I remember I watched it when it came out
and I binged it and I was so sad it
was over that I when it ended, I started it again.
It's also like now one of those shows if I
just want like background noise because I only like, what
eight episodes or whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It's a great show, Okay, I'm gonna have to watch that.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, because the cast is great.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
So it's such a great cast.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, so have to finish uh this summer.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I turned pretty finish.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I was telling my husband that this morning because I
saw it was on my It was on my iPad,
and so I was telling I was just saying out
loud to my husband, Oh, I got to watch the
last the rest of that. He goes, I thought you
watched it, and I said, I didn't watch season three yet,
and he goes, oh, so it's the summers. I turned
pretty Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, it's technically yeah, like I said, just get through
the first four episodes of season three and you'll be
you'll like it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
From that, I know I need to go back. I did.
I think I watched. I know I watched the first one,
and I don't know if I finished the second one
or I just started it. But I'll have to go
back and restart the season over again.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, I've got my list of assignments.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Now, well, back to Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We start out, we see the clown pillow actually in
two scenes this episode.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, right off the top, like, hey.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And it never moved in the next scene. In the
scene when it comes back, it's in the same chair.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, I guess overall thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Of like, let's talk about Rory and Laura. I I, well, actually,
let's talk about Rory. That kind of felt for her
this episode, because I think that sometimes we like there's
no manual to like do life right and so like,
and everyone's journey is so different. But she's been following
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this imaginary rule book that she kind of created, right,
and it basically she has to scrap it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah. Yeah, and we're starting to see, you know, it's
that the syndrome of the big fish in the little
pond then becomes the little fish in the big pond.
Like she's a star in Stars hollow. Yeah, but she's
starting to realize, like when she had that whole meltdown
about her extracurricular activities, it's starting to hit her again
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that everybody applying to Harvard is just like her. She's
not that special in that population of people, and so
her freak out loral lies freak out. I get it. Like,
as the parent of college age kids, I totally get
that anxiety. It's way different than it was when I
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was applying to college in the late eighties. Like it
was stressful then, but it's like next level now. And
I watch what like some of my kids friends' parents
go through to get their kids into colleges, and it's crazy,
like there's so much pressure on that process now.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, I graduated high school in twenty eleven, so
it's been i mean fifteen years since I applied, and
I was thinking, like, you know that fifteen years ago
was when like half the application was online. I think
half was still like you got to like submit it.
And I remember applying to like so many schools. I
got into like three or four, but I don't know,
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like it didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Seem like this intense.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, and mind you, I wasn't applying to Ivy League school.
But like this and what it seems like now, it
seems crazy, Like it seems like because I was a
kid who was like I was on dance, I was
on cheer, I was on the school paper. But that's
because I wasn't active, Like I I'm fine being home
one day doing nothing and then I get antsy and
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then I want to leave the house. So like that
was just me like wanting to be an active kid. Yeah,
but that was all natural. And then I kind of think,
I'm like, man, I guess if you really were only
reading books, it doesn't really help.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, cur curriculars, yeah, well, and the level of competition
like we saw Harvard episode or Harvard, Like it's like
that for everything now.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean it's like that for cal State schools.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Is it really still it's.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Crazy to get into the California schools is crazy, and
there's still there are still some you can get into.
Like my son just had mediocre grades. He was not
a superstar, He's just average. He did get into he
applied to He only applied to two California schools. One
was private and he got in there, and then he
did apply to cal State Sacramento and he got in there.
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So there are still state schools in California that are accessible,
but it's to get into like UCLA and Berkeley is
it's hard. It's hard. It's like next level. And I
went to UCLA. I don't think I could even get
in now, you know, based on what I did in
high school back then, Like they wouldn't probably even open
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my application.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's so funny because I think of it because I
went to cal State Northridge and I studied journalism and
I literally applied to the journalism school.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like I didn't apply with no major. I applied to
journalism school.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But I also got into San Diego State and University
of San Francisco. So I got into those schools and
I decided to just stay live at home. But I
think back, I'm like, I don't think I would have
gotten into those schools anymore. And my grades were fine,
Like I was like, I was like an average beast,
you didn't. But I think that my extracurriculars did help
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me in that sense, like especially if I was on
the school paper going into a journalism major. But like
I just think about it now and I'm like, was
I a hard worker or was it just easier, Like
I think back, and I'm like, I can't tell, and
I don't. I don't have someone going through the school
system that I know, so you're a little more close
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to it. But yeah, but I felt the anxiety and then.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, for sure, and I was on I've done a
lot of PTA volunteering in the past couple of years.
I've been on the scholarship committee. So I see, like
we give away some a couple thousand dollars a year
from the PTA to a few seniors, and so they
have to fill out an application. So I see, like
they're all the stuff that they've done, and these kids
have like four point five GPA.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You couldn't even get a four point five when I
was in high school. Like they know like like a
dozen AP classes. Yeah, they've taken and I can't even
like wrap my head around that. It's just so different
than it was years ago. Anyways, Yeah, so I totally
get the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I get the anxiety, but I also can't relate because
I wasn't applying to Harvard.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Right right, So when Paris makes that comment about when
I wrote my practice essay at age twelve, You're like, Wow,
it's funny because it's Paris. But at the same time you're.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Like, you were tell far off.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, you know the other thing, this is so off
topic from college talk, But it was this episode three
seasons in that I was like, because Luke makes a
comment when he's pouring Rory coffee, saying something about drinking
coffee before school. And then I sat back and I
was like, I don't know anyone I went to school
with who was drinking a cup of coffee at seven am. Yeah,
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we would go to Starbucks and get like frappucinos, but
that's like ninety nine percent sugar, you know what I mean. Yeah,
into like an espress so shot. But like, I don't
know anyone that was drinking straight coffee. And that's the
moment I was like, huh, it is a TV show.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point now that you bring
it up. It's kind of like the whole foundation of
Gilmore Girls is drinking coffee. But you're right, and none
of my friends drank coffee at that age.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
She's technically starting to drink coffee at well when we
see her at fifteen. Yeah, because in the first in
the first season, she turned sixteen.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, so and the habit was already established by then.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Can you imagine your fifteen year old just going to
a dinner and drinking.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
A black cup of coffee?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, you know, my nineteen year old drinks coffee, but
he drinks dcalf Okay, yeah, but yeah, but he wasn't
when he was fourteen year old.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
But nineteen, he's out of high school.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, so I'm talking about like in your uniform drinking coffee.
The scene that I really really liked was when Rory
he asks Laura I to step away when they're at
the Gilmour's and they go into Richard's office and they're panicking,
and then Paris calls and she's panicking and everyone's collectively panicking.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It was such a good scene.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, it was. It was good, and it was you know,
they're all like kind of independently getting all spun up,
and then when they when they all come together, it
was like they're just all bouncing off the walls. Yeah,
it was a great scene.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I know, we're jumping a little all over the place,
just because this was kind of like a I don't know,
the episode felt very spread out. But the one thing
that the only thing that took me back in this
episode where I was like, this is the one thing
that I have a note on. Why would Jackson ask
for Rory's room?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Could you imagine.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Suzanne, if you were like, hey, U so you're you
go to like let's say your friend, You're like, hey,
so your son's moving out?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Can I have the room? It's like are you paying rent?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And for his farm? Implement?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It was It was so I mean, I know, stars
Hollow is a quirky town, but this was so far fetched.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That was a little weird. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well even Lorala was like when it at my house
or whatever she said and he's like yeah. Then she's
like like what and then he was just so serious.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah? That was a little weird. And then right around
that same part of the episode, when Dean just out
of nowhere, he's like, so are we gonna break up?
Like this is months away from happening, Like, what is
your deal right now?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I I understand that. Okay, Well actually let's take it back.
So at that first scene at the diner, she was like, oh,
I'm fine, and like, you know, I have to, you know,
do a couple applications, but it's no rush, we can
hang out blah blah. Then she starts panicking. But then
where when did we get like from A to CEA?
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Do you know, like like where was point B?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah? Yeah, like exactly like he was fine at the diner, yeah,
but then at the town meeting he's like, so are
we gonna break up?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I literally thought I missed a scene, Like I thought that.
I was like, I was like, did I walk away
and come back?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Like what? Because we all know that she's stressed with anxiety,
so maybe.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was like a hidden scene where like they had
had a conversation about her being stressed without like him
knowing or maybe But I was like.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But she does say in that scene, she does say,
well that was blunt and out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So yeah she does, but it was where to her,
but it was too blunt and out of nowhere. But
I also think it was the point of the episode,
of the anxiety of the episode. It was just like
when you know, life throws sometimes throws.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Everything at you at once.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And it's probably because then Lora, I was getting hit
the other side from like oh well, Rory's moving out
and her room's gonna be empty, so.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You know, yeah, yeah, I don't know. It just it
was weird that he went from everything's fine to all
of a sudden, he's like super insecure again about you know,
he's jealous of Harvard or whatever. She hasn't even gotten in.
She hasn't even applied, let alone gotten in anywhere. Like
why do we have to think about this right now?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
It just it was weird.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Also my other thought, does Dean just not come to
town meetings? Like is it not required from everyone?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I don't know he's there when the plot calls for it,
and he's not if it.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Doesn't, I will say.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The one person who kind of bugged me this episode,
shockingly was not Tailor.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
It was it was Lane. I don't know why. She
just kind of bugged me this episode.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh really the whole thing with the ad in the
paper and she was gonna list every single band that
she's ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well that's the part, the part when she's Rory's room
that was like, she's not annoying, and then when she
was with Dave.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I didn't mind it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I also love the line where she takes her sweater
off and like, trust god, what band is that and
She's like life.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
It was a great line.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, their first meeting I thought was very cute and
you could tell like she was smitten, like right away
she said I love you. Yeah, it was cute.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I liked it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I liked David Lane together.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I did too. It was just that, You're right.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It was the first part that annoyed me because the
second bar was fine, but in the beginning, I was like,
she just kept like it seemed like she was getting
in the way of Laura Lion Rory, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Like, can you let them talk? Like she just kept
popping out.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, it was a little interesting, and then the loud
music playing in the background. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, trying to think if there's anything else. Overall, I
really liked the episode.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I yeah, I love that. The whole town meeting scene
is hilarious, with my ice cream shop in the giant
Horse and and you know, Luke is trying to fight it,
but then Laura lies like we.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Want ice cream, and all I can think of is
Amy's sugarman saying ice cream shoppy, like the only thing.
And then I kind of waited to see what they
would say, and I'm like, do they say shoppy and
I just missed him, like, no, let's just say shop.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't know if you noticed the little boy in
the green jacket who came up to Luke's Kendall Schmidt
from Big Time Rush.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, I remembered him from the other episode that.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah he was. He was a boy scout before.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, exactly, so I don't I don't recognize him from
Big Time Rush, but yeah, on the podcast before, but
I recognize. I'm like, hey, that's the that's.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
The most kid. Yeah, yeah, I know. It took me
a second and his hair looks so much dark.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I don't know, he just looked different because he looks
a lot younger as the boy scout and I was like, oh,
it's him. I didn't recognize the second kid though, but
those were funny scenes then Kirk getting involved.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, yeah, so I love this episode. That lunch is hilarious.
I think a lot of people think.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Oh my god, the lunch scene.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Is weird, and that's why they don't like the episode.
But I was cra liked it high time. Yeah, the
whole thing, well, it was.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
So ridiculous, like you can't take it seriously.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, like these are just the this is just the
weirdest family, and it was just hilarity from start to finish.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And also I love how I can't remember the daughter's name,
who is not the college, not going to school, the
one who was dressed up.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Was it Carol?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I think so, I think that was her name.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But when Rory goes up to use the restroom, Carol
has a she did not know who this girl was
in her house, but she was holding an if someone walked.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Down your hallway who you don't know?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, but then again, she's probably like, my parents are crazy,
so right.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
She seemed very detached, unless.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
She knew that, like this, Rory and Loralai were coming
and so she just assumed.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
And also, I mean Rory looks pretty harmless, so.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it sounds like this crazy
family probably trots these high schoolers through all the time,
and so maybe she was just used to it. I
don't know, but I did.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The one thing I did find the little weird is
that Rory said, I mean, I understand that the plot
was for her to leave, such as she goes up
and meets Carol, but for her to just like leave
lorele I like high and dry at the table with
these quizzes. I was like, you're leaving your mom hanging
and she has no idea the answers to these quizzes well.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And they're already sitting down serving the food before she
decides she needs to wash her hands, Like wouldn't you
do that before you sat down?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It didn't work with the story.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
So you know, no, but I agree with you. I
didn't know. People don't like this scene, but I actually
thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, this whole episode I love. And then Laurel I
quotes they might be Giants, and I am a huge
they might be Giants fan, So that was a highlight
for me. Although that's the song she quoted as a
cover that they do, it's not their original song. But
but yeah, I just I love this episode. Did you
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notice in the scene where they're looking her application the
can of.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Hanson's Yes, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That rotated depending on which way the camera was facing.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It was front and center. It was like getting paid
over time. It was also the orange flavor because I
looked it was by the way. It was like smack
in between them where I couldn't look away at the Hansons.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, yeah, you couldn't avoid it, and depend regardless of
the camera angle the label was facing the car.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I did notice that it has the label on both sides,
so that one I was but you can tell they
kind of like turned it depending on where the camera was.
I was like, all right, well, yeah, Hanson's was spons
this episode. Episode was sponsored by Hansen.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Still makes me sad Hanson's is gone.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I know.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Hanson's was so good, so good.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And then the the scene outside the town meeting where
Lane what the action is? Lane and da were sitting
on the bench hawking, but you can see in the
background Lauren and Wilson, McCarthy and Jackson were like waiting
for their cue. They're supposed to be like when we
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when it cuts to them, they're in the middle of
a conversation, but you can see them just standing back
there behind Lane and Dave, and Lauren's like primping her
hair and camera yeah, exactly, so you could totally see
they're just waiting for their cue because they're not actually
acting like they weren't pretending to be in a conversation.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
It was I don't know if I don't know if
this is like a thing.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But in a scene where they're in Dozies, there's a
magazine magazine stand behind them and there's a cover of
In Style, and I don't know if we can do
some digging. I didn't have time before this recording, and
after I watched it to look it up.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I think it's a cover of Lauren on in Style.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Oh really, I think so, And it's like, you can't tell,
because I was also like, I literally watched it on
my phone to see if I can zoo and I
couldn't because it's still kind of blurry. But I want
to go down and be like, is that Lauren on
the cover of in Style?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, we're going to have to dig into that. Yeah,
that shouldn't be too hard to find out.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And I could be completely wrong, But also because I
was paying attention, there was more rice crispies in this episode.
Don't know if you noticed, but in the in their
in their kitchen, there was a box of rice crispies
by Maxine.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The the jar okay, yeah, the cookie jar.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And then in Josie's when I saw the magazine stand,
when I looked to the other side of the screen,
it was just like a shelf of Cereal, so I'm
assuming Kellogg's was another sponsor. Yeah, I was like, and
every time I see I'm like, huh, I could really
go for a bowl of Cereal.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
And Hanson's and Hansen's damn Hanson's. Can we just can we?
Who do we call to bring it back somehow?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I know?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Give us.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Like fruit?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It was fruit like, so like it was sparkling fruity soda.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah it was good. It wasn't like artificial tasting.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
No, but it probably wasn't good for us either, so
it probably wasn't it. Just like I drink my die
Coke the way I love it. I know, I know
it's Die Coke Lime, which is a limited edition drink
right now, top tier. I mean, I'm going to Target
and just stalking up on as many cases as I
can before it's gone.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh I'm gonna have to try that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It tastes exactly like someone squeezed the lime in your
die Coke. And I always want to go to sit
down restaurants. I ask for lime in my die Coke
because I'm like, well, I'm at a restaurant, might as well. Yeah,
And now I feel like I have in a can
at home, which is.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Okay, I'm gonna get some of the grocery store now
you've talked me into it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
All right, So next week we're going to talk season three,
episode four. One's got class and the other one dies
spelled d yees.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yes we know what episode this is.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
All right, We'll see you next week.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Meeting adjourn.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Dot everybody off again.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
I Am all in Town Meeting with Suzanne French and
Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to
another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself,
Tara and Suzanne.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello, Today we're talking about season three, episode three, Application Anxiety,
which aired October eighth, two thousand and two. And did
you notice it said town meeting in the town meeting,
And so it made me think of our podcast No Idea.
It just said town meeting, and I was like, oh,
there we are. This is a pretty big episode. I
(00:51):
feel like it's one that I always remember.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know, this is kind of an odd ball, but
it's one of my favorite episodes. Yeah, this episode.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Same like it's it's not like a big episode in
the sense of like nothing big happens, but weirdly I
like it and I always remember it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah. Yeah, so we did get something. We have Dave
media for the first time. So that turns out to
be a big thing exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, I didn't realize this was the episode until the
credits are rolling.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
In the beginning it said Adam Brode.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You know, I was like, oh, by the way, that
season two of Nobody Wants This is That out?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh, I haven't watched season one yet. I guess I should.
Everybody raves about it. I'm always kind.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Of I remember I watched it when it came out
and I binged it and I was so sad it
was over that I when it ended, I started it again.
It's also like now one of those shows if I
just want like background noise because I only like, what
eight episodes or whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It's a great show, Okay, I'm gonna have to watch that.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, because the cast is great.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
So it's such a great cast.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, so have to finish uh this summer.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I turned pretty finish.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I was telling my husband that this morning because I
saw it was on my It was on my iPad,
and so I was telling I was just saying out
loud to my husband, Oh, I got to watch the
last the rest of that. He goes, I thought you
watched it, and I said, I didn't watch season three yet,
and he goes, oh, so it's the summers. I turned
pretty Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, it's technically yeah, like I said, just get through
the first four episodes of season three and you'll be
you'll like it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
From that, I know I need to go back. I did.
I think I watched. I know I watched the first one,
and I don't know if I finished the second one
or I just started it. But I'll have to go
back and restart the season over again.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, I've got my list of assignments.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Now, well, back to Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We start out, we see the clown pillow actually in
two scenes this episode.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, right off the top, like, hey.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And it never moved in the next scene. In the
scene when it comes back, it's in the same chair.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, I guess overall thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Of like, let's talk about Rory and Laura. I I, well, actually,
let's talk about Rory. That kind of felt for her
this episode, because I think that sometimes we like there's
no manual to like do life right and so like,
and everyone's journey is so different. But she's been following
(03:21):
this imaginary rule book that she kind of created, right,
and it basically she has to scrap it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah. Yeah, and we're starting to see, you know, it's
that the syndrome of the big fish in the little
pond then becomes the little fish in the big pond.
Like she's a star in Stars hollow. Yeah, but she's
starting to realize, like when she had that whole meltdown
about her extracurricular activities, it's starting to hit her again
(03:50):
that everybody applying to Harvard is just like her. She's
not that special in that population of people, and so
her freak out loral lies freak out. I get it. Like,
as the parent of college age kids, I totally get
that anxiety. It's way different than it was when I
(04:11):
was applying to college in the late eighties. Like it
was stressful then, but it's like next level now. And
I watch what like some of my kids friends' parents
go through to get their kids into colleges, and it's crazy,
like there's so much pressure on that process now.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, I graduated high school in twenty eleven, so
it's been i mean fifteen years since I applied, and
I was thinking, like, you know that fifteen years ago
was when like half the application was online. I think
half was still like you got to like submit it.
And I remember applying to like so many schools. I
got into like three or four, but I don't know,
(04:53):
like it didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Seem like this intense.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, and mind you, I wasn't applying to Ivy League school.
But like this and what it seems like now, it
seems crazy, Like it seems like because I was a
kid who was like I was on dance, I was
on cheer, I was on the school paper. But that's
because I wasn't active, Like I I'm fine being home
one day doing nothing and then I get antsy and
(05:18):
then I want to leave the house. So like that
was just me like wanting to be an active kid. Yeah,
but that was all natural. And then I kind of think,
I'm like, man, I guess if you really were only
reading books, it doesn't really help.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, cur curriculars, yeah, well, and the level of competition
like we saw Harvard episode or Harvard, Like it's like
that for everything now.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean it's like that for cal State schools.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Is it really still it's.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Crazy to get into the California schools is crazy, and
there's still there are still some you can get into.
Like my son just had mediocre grades. He was not
a superstar, He's just average. He did get into he
applied to He only applied to two California schools. One
was private and he got in there, and then he
did apply to cal State Sacramento and he got in there.
(06:07):
So there are still state schools in California that are accessible,
but it's to get into like UCLA and Berkeley is
it's hard. It's hard. It's like next level. And I
went to UCLA. I don't think I could even get
in now, you know, based on what I did in
high school back then, Like they wouldn't probably even open
(06:28):
my application.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's so funny because I think of it because I
went to cal State Northridge and I studied journalism and
I literally applied to the journalism school.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like I didn't apply with no major. I applied to
journalism school.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But I also got into San Diego State and University
of San Francisco. So I got into those schools and
I decided to just stay live at home. But I
think back, I'm like, I don't think I would have
gotten into those schools anymore. And my grades were fine,
Like I was like, I was like an average beast,
you didn't. But I think that my extracurriculars did help
(07:03):
me in that sense, like especially if I was on
the school paper going into a journalism major. But like
I just think about it now and I'm like, was
I a hard worker or was it just easier, Like
I think back, and I'm like, I can't tell, and
I don't. I don't have someone going through the school
system that I know, so you're a little more close
(07:24):
to it. But yeah, but I felt the anxiety and then.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, for sure, and I was on I've done a
lot of PTA volunteering in the past couple of years.
I've been on the scholarship committee. So I see, like
we give away some a couple thousand dollars a year
from the PTA to a few seniors, and so they
have to fill out an application. So I see, like
they're all the stuff that they've done, and these kids
have like four point five GPA.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You couldn't even get a four point five when I
was in high school. Like they know like like a
dozen AP classes. Yeah, they've taken and I can't even
like wrap my head around that. It's just so different
than it was years ago. Anyways, Yeah, so I totally
get the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I get the anxiety, but I also can't relate because
I wasn't applying to Harvard.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Right right, So when Paris makes that comment about when
I wrote my practice essay at age twelve, You're like, Wow,
it's funny because it's Paris. But at the same time you're.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Like, you were tell far off.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, you know the other thing, this is so off
topic from college talk, But it was this episode three
seasons in that I was like, because Luke makes a
comment when he's pouring Rory coffee, saying something about drinking
coffee before school. And then I sat back and I
was like, I don't know anyone I went to school
with who was drinking a cup of coffee at seven am. Yeah,
(08:52):
we would go to Starbucks and get like frappucinos, but
that's like ninety nine percent sugar, you know what I mean. Yeah,
into like an espress so shot. But like, I don't
know anyone that was drinking straight coffee. And that's the
moment I was like, huh, it is a TV show.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point now that you bring
it up. It's kind of like the whole foundation of
Gilmore Girls is drinking coffee. But you're right, and none
of my friends drank coffee at that age.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
She's technically starting to drink coffee at well when we
see her at fifteen. Yeah, because in the first in
the first season, she turned sixteen.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, so and the habit was already established by then.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Can you imagine your fifteen year old just going to
a dinner and drinking.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
A black cup of coffee?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, you know, my nineteen year old drinks coffee, but
he drinks dcalf Okay, yeah, but yeah, but he wasn't
when he was fourteen year old.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
But nineteen, he's out of high school.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, so I'm talking about like in your uniform drinking coffee.
The scene that I really really liked was when Rory
he asks Laura I to step away when they're at
the Gilmour's and they go into Richard's office and they're panicking,
and then Paris calls and she's panicking and everyone's collectively panicking.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It was such a good scene.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, it was. It was good, and it was you know,
they're all like kind of independently getting all spun up,
and then when they when they all come together, it
was like they're just all bouncing off the walls. Yeah,
it was a great scene.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I know, we're jumping a little all over the place,
just because this was kind of like a I don't know,
the episode felt very spread out. But the one thing
that the only thing that took me back in this
episode where I was like, this is the one thing
that I have a note on. Why would Jackson ask
for Rory's room?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Could you imagine.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Suzanne, if you were like, hey, U so you're you
go to like let's say your friend, You're like, hey,
so your son's moving out?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Can I have the room? It's like are you paying rent?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And for his farm? Implement?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It was It was so I mean, I know, stars
Hollow is a quirky town, but this was so far fetched.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That was a little weird. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well even Lorala was like when it at my house
or whatever she said and he's like yeah. Then she's
like like what and then he was just so serious.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah? That was a little weird. And then right around
that same part of the episode, when Dean just out
of nowhere, he's like, so are we gonna break up?
Like this is months away from happening, Like, what is
your deal right now?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I I understand that. Okay, Well actually let's take it back.
So at that first scene at the diner, she was like, oh,
I'm fine, and like, you know, I have to, you know,
do a couple applications, but it's no rush, we can
hang out blah blah. Then she starts panicking. But then
where when did we get like from A to CEA?
(12:07):
Do you know, like like where was point B?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah? Yeah, like exactly like he was fine at the diner, yeah,
but then at the town meeting he's like, so are
we gonna break up?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I literally thought I missed a scene, Like I thought that.
I was like, I was like, did I walk away
and come back?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Like what? Because we all know that she's stressed with anxiety,
so maybe.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was like a hidden scene where like they had
had a conversation about her being stressed without like him
knowing or maybe But I was like.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But she does say in that scene, she does say,
well that was blunt and out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So yeah she does, but it was where to her,
but it was too blunt and out of nowhere. But
I also think it was the point of the episode,
of the anxiety of the episode. It was just like
when you know, life throws sometimes throws.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Everything at you at once.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And it's probably because then Lora, I was getting hit
the other side from like oh well, Rory's moving out
and her room's gonna be empty, so.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You know, yeah, yeah, I don't know. It just it
was weird that he went from everything's fine to all
of a sudden, he's like super insecure again about you know,
he's jealous of Harvard or whatever. She hasn't even gotten in.
She hasn't even applied, let alone gotten in anywhere. Like
why do we have to think about this right now?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
It just it was weird.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Also my other thought, does Dean just not come to
town meetings? Like is it not required from everyone?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I don't know he's there when the plot calls for it,
and he's not if it.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Doesn't, I will say.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The one person who kind of bugged me this episode,
shockingly was not Tailor.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
It was it was Lane. I don't know why. She
just kind of bugged me this episode.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh really the whole thing with the ad in the
paper and she was gonna list every single band that
she's ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well that's the part, the part when she's Rory's room
that was like, she's not annoying, and then when she
was with Dave.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I didn't mind it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I also love the line where she takes her sweater
off and like, trust god, what band is that and
She's like life.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
It was a great line.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, their first meeting I thought was very cute and
you could tell like she was smitten, like right away
she said I love you. Yeah, it was cute.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I liked it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I liked David Lane together.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I did too. It was just that, You're right.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It was the first part that annoyed me because the
second bar was fine, but in the beginning, I was like,
she just kept like it seemed like she was getting
in the way of Laura Lion Rory, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Like, can you let them talk? Like she just kept
popping out.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, it was a little interesting, and then the loud
music playing in the background. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, trying to think if there's anything else. Overall, I
really liked the episode.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I yeah, I love that. The whole town meeting scene
is hilarious, with my ice cream shop in the giant
Horse and and you know, Luke is trying to fight it,
but then Laura lies like we.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Want ice cream, and all I can think of is
Amy's sugarman saying ice cream shoppy, like the only thing.
And then I kind of waited to see what they
would say, and I'm like, do they say shoppy and
I just missed him, like, no, let's just say shop.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't know if you noticed the little boy in
the green jacket who came up to Luke's Kendall Schmidt
from Big Time Rush.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, I remembered him from the other episode that.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah he was. He was a boy scout before.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, exactly, so I don't I don't recognize him from
Big Time Rush, but yeah, on the podcast before, but
I recognize. I'm like, hey, that's the that's.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
The most kid. Yeah, yeah, I know. It took me
a second and his hair looks so much dark.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I don't know, he just looked different because he looks
a lot younger as the boy scout and I was like, oh,
it's him. I didn't recognize the second kid though, but
those were funny scenes then Kirk getting involved.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, yeah, so I love this episode. That lunch is hilarious.
I think a lot of people think.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Oh my god, the lunch scene.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Is weird, and that's why they don't like the episode.
But I was cra liked it high time. Yeah, the
whole thing, well, it was.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
So ridiculous, like you can't take it seriously.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, like these are just the this is just the
weirdest family, and it was just hilarity from start to finish.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And also I love how I can't remember the daughter's name,
who is not the college, not going to school, the
one who was dressed up.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Was it Carol?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I think so, I think that was her name.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But when Rory goes up to use the restroom, Carol
has a she did not know who this girl was
in her house, but she was holding an if someone walked.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Down your hallway who you don't know?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, but then again, she's probably like, my parents are crazy,
so right.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
She seemed very detached, unless.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
She knew that, like this, Rory and Loralai were coming
and so she just assumed.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
And also, I mean Rory looks pretty harmless, so.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it sounds like this crazy
family probably trots these high schoolers through all the time,
and so maybe she was just used to it. I
don't know, but I did.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The one thing I did find the little weird is
that Rory said, I mean, I understand that the plot
was for her to leave, such as she goes up
and meets Carol, but for her to just like leave
lorele I like high and dry at the table with
these quizzes. I was like, you're leaving your mom hanging
and she has no idea the answers to these quizzes well.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And they're already sitting down serving the food before she
decides she needs to wash her hands, Like wouldn't you
do that before you sat down?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It didn't work with the story.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
So you know, no, but I agree with you. I
didn't know. People don't like this scene, but I actually
thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, this whole episode I love. And then Laurel I
quotes they might be Giants, and I am a huge
they might be Giants fan, So that was a highlight
for me. Although that's the song she quoted as a
cover that they do, it's not their original song. But
but yeah, I just I love this episode. Did you
(17:57):
notice in the scene where they're looking her application the
can of.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Hanson's Yes, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That rotated depending on which way the camera was facing.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It was front and center. It was like getting paid
over time. It was also the orange flavor because I
looked it was by the way. It was like smack
in between them where I couldn't look away at the Hansons.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, yeah, you couldn't avoid it, and depend regardless of
the camera angle the label was facing the car.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I did notice that it has the label on both sides,
so that one I was but you can tell they
kind of like turned it depending on where the camera was.
I was like, all right, well, yeah, Hanson's was spons
this episode. Episode was sponsored by Hansen.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Still makes me sad Hanson's is gone.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I know.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Hanson's was so good, so good.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And then the the scene outside the town meeting where
Lane what the action is? Lane and da were sitting
on the bench hawking, but you can see in the
background Lauren and Wilson, McCarthy and Jackson were like waiting
for their cue. They're supposed to be like when we
(19:06):
when it cuts to them, they're in the middle of
a conversation, but you can see them just standing back
there behind Lane and Dave, and Lauren's like primping her
hair and camera yeah, exactly, so you could totally see
they're just waiting for their cue because they're not actually
acting like they weren't pretending to be in a conversation.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
It was I don't know if I don't know if
this is like a thing.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But in a scene where they're in Dozies, there's a
magazine magazine stand behind them and there's a cover of
In Style, and I don't know if we can do
some digging. I didn't have time before this recording, and
after I watched it to look it up.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I think it's a cover of Lauren on in Style.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Oh really, I think so, And it's like, you can't tell,
because I was also like, I literally watched it on
my phone to see if I can zoo and I
couldn't because it's still kind of blurry. But I want
to go down and be like, is that Lauren on
the cover of in Style?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, we're going to have to dig into that. Yeah,
that shouldn't be too hard to find out.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And I could be completely wrong, But also because I
was paying attention, there was more rice crispies in this episode.
Don't know if you noticed, but in the in their
in their kitchen, there was a box of rice crispies
by Maxine.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The the jar okay, yeah, the cookie jar.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And then in Josie's when I saw the magazine stand,
when I looked to the other side of the screen,
it was just like a shelf of Cereal, so I'm
assuming Kellogg's was another sponsor. Yeah, I was like, and
every time I see I'm like, huh, I could really
go for a bowl of Cereal.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
And Hanson's and Hansen's damn Hanson's. Can we just can we?
Who do we call to bring it back somehow?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I know?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Give us.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Like fruit?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It was fruit like, so like it was sparkling fruity soda.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah it was good. It wasn't like artificial tasting.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
No, but it probably wasn't good for us either, so
it probably wasn't it. Just like I drink my die
Coke the way I love it. I know, I know
it's Die Coke Lime, which is a limited edition drink
right now, top tier. I mean, I'm going to Target
and just stalking up on as many cases as I
can before it's gone.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh I'm gonna have to try that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It tastes exactly like someone squeezed the lime in your
die Coke. And I always want to go to sit
down restaurants. I ask for lime in my die Coke
because I'm like, well, I'm at a restaurant, might as well. Yeah,
And now I feel like I have in a can
at home, which is.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Okay, I'm gonna get some of the grocery store now
you've talked me into it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
All right, So next week we're going to talk season three,
episode four. One's got class and the other one dies
spelled d yees.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yes we know what episode this is.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
All right, We'll see you next week.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Meeting adjourn.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Dot everybody off again.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
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