December 9, 2025 • 22 mins
Tara and Suzanne have different takes on what Richard did to Rory at Yale. Did he have to go behind everyone’s back? Was it manipulative?
What moment in this episode did we feel was so cringe and a bad idea?
Plus, an important question that never got answered - Did Kirk ever get his trophy back?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am All in again. Oh it's you. I Am
All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and Tara suit
(00:22):
An iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hey guys, welcome back to the episode of I'm All
in Town Meeting with Myself furn Susanne. Hello, Hi, Let's
get into season three, episode eight, Let the Games Begin,
which aired on November nineteenth, two thousand and two.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, so this episode picks up immediately after the end
of the last episode, like they're taking the banner down. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So I watched them back to back because of the
holiday the way we recorded this, we ended up doing
it back to back, and I was like, what a
great episode to watch right after because like the first
scene out, they're limping the morning after the dance marathon.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah. So we talked in the last episode about the
whole timing of the dance marathon itself. But I have
another timing issue I need to talk about here. Okay,
So when the when the episode opens, it's Monday morning
because Rory's in her school uniform, and we saw the
(01:23):
sign both in the last episode and in this opening
scene that says the dance marathon is Saturday six am
to Sunday six am. And Laura. I says to Rory,
you've been up for twenty four hours straight, but she
hasn't because the dance marathon ended Sunday morning and now
it's Monday morning, so they had all day Sunday and
(01:46):
all night Sunday night to sleep. I mean yeah, immediately
after the dance, like it's twenty four hours later.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But I could I could picture it being like.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They were doing like maybe she was studying on that
Sunday and barely slept, you know, yeah maybe, Like I mean,
think about it like a big weekend like that, Like
you're not getting a full, full, full, full night.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's like a couple of days recover. So yeah, but
I go, yeah, saying.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Definitely they would be tired, but they have not been
up for twenty four hours too.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah when I saw them limping.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So I've done a half marathon before, and I did
it the Disneyland would do the you know the runs
like the Run Disney, and so I did. This was
like twenty seventeen that I did it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I will not be doing it now.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I remember we were staying at a hotel at Disney
and when I was done with the half marathon, I
went obviously, like you don't sit right away, you walk
it off and like you know, and I went and
took a shower, and then after the shower, I sat
for a second and then got back up. And I
had to drive home that day because we weren't like
I'm not like the people who can like stay at
Disneyland all day and like enjoy the theme park like
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no way. Well, my drive home was one hour and
getting out of the car after sitting for one hour, yeah,
like I I think I literally asked my dad to
come like hold my hands, like getting out of the car.
But that's what I reminded me of because I was like, oh,
that's the pain I remember.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh, I have only done five k's, Like I am
not a runner. I do not like running, but I've
done a couple five k's and been the same way.
I can't even imagine doing an entire ho marathon.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In my defense, I walked and jogged because it was
like that year, it was like the hottest day in
like the last five years at like that early in
the morning, and they literally made announcement like everyone please
like do not try to run, like just walk. Yeah,
and I will say I think I like walked most
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of it and jogged like a quarter of it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, but still it's still like, what is it thirteen
point one miles?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's way more than I can.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I give people credit who do like multiple as I
couldn't do. If you want to, you listeners are runners
because no things. Yeah, I got my medal and that's
all that matters.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Anyway. But the jets and the rary is so awkward.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, the whole high By thing and the diner I
thought was funny because Luke was like completely oblivious, Oh yeah,
what's happening here?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And then go and then I like how at the
end it was like a call back to the high
bides or he like finishes it for them. Yeah, I
mean it's it's so funny because like they've been fine
with each other before and then suddenly like, yeah, they
don't know how to act.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's like very like childish. I mean they were in
high school, so I get it, but you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It was kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'm not a.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Jess fan, but I thought that was cute.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, I thought it was awkward. Yeah, I personally preferred
the final scene over anything else between going on between.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Them, Yes, the gas pump scene.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yes, which, by the way, did you notice I was
watching this episode and you know how like usually I
was watching it on my phone just so I because
I was eating so I was like, let me just
do this at the same time.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Did you notice that, like at the beginning I think.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think it's right when the episode starts, or maybe
it's right after the music it said like language and sex.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Did you see that? No?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, so it says like because it's like viewer discretion
or whatever, like in the very corner of it, it
says like language and sex. And in my head, I
was like, well, before the episode started, I was like,
what is going to happen in this episode that I
don't remember? But it was alluding to that they were
up in like behind closed door. They may bee that
make sex okay, But it was just a really interesting
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like I had never noticed that. Maybe I just never
noticed it before, but on this episode it says like
language and sex at the at the beginning of the episode.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Funny, I've never paid attention to that. I wonder what
they meant with the language though, Like.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know, But I also I wonder if I
watched it on my phone this time. So I also
wonder if, like does it not show it on like
like your Netflix, AAP on your TV.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I don't know, I it does. I just never pay
attention to it.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, anyway, I don't know. This one caught my eye
for some reason.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But that's why I was like, what's happening this episode
that I forgot about?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
So there was some nice product placement, the coco Coca cola, yeah,
front and center, and also chocolate and coca cola sounds
terrible together. It does sound weird. I was wondering what
chocolate they were eating. I was because it looked like
it might have been garadelly because it looked like square
like squares.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Also sounded like they were breaking it off.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And they were in they were in red wrappers, you
know how like Gara Delly has the foil wrappers. That's all.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And it was Mini's right. It wasn't that big.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, But when she when she took a sip of
the coke after eating the chocolate, I was like, oh
that was yeah, listen, I love a good soda and
a good chocolate not together.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
But I guess let's jump into the Yale of it all.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I thought the whole thing was kind of crappy
of Richard. I understand why he did it, but I
hate that he and Emily are always tricking Rory.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well which part because I actually wanted to break this
into two parts because I was sitting here and like
dissecting the episode into two parter. My part one was
he wanted to show her Yale where he went to school,
and that's fine, sure. My part two is the meeting
with the dean of admissions, So I kind of broke
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it up into two. Do I think the first part
is crappy because he kind of threw it at her
and he knew Rory will say yes, yes. However, I
understood the intention, and then the second part I just
thought was one hundred percent crappy.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, I mean, I I think I get where he
coming from that he thinks he needs to steer Rory
through this college application process because he knows that Loralai
doesn't have the actual.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Which was so rude to say.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's very it's rude and it's condescending, But at the
same time, I understand that's where his brain was and
that's why he did it, and he you know he
he isn't willing to just leave it to chance that
she's going to get into an Ivy League school. So
I kind of get that. But at the same time,
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he totally manipulated her, and they do crap like that
to her all the time, and she lets them do it,
like the debutante ball. I mean, she knows. She even
said she knew they were manipulating her, but she doesn't
like she just lets them do it. She won't stand
up to them, which I was kind of glad she
stood up to him at the end, like after the interview.
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So I don't know, I mean, I I mean, he didn't.
He didn't he knew at the beginning when he was
asking her to go see Yale with him, he knew
it was for the admissions interview, Like it wasn't like
he thought of that later and decided to schedule the
interview because they were going to be there anyways.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But do you think that he did that, Well, yes,
but I think that he did that once she said
yes to the first part.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I don't think so. I feel like that's what he
was setting her up for.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
See.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I thought that it was like and again, there are
probably so many different takes on this. My take was,
let me get her there. Now that she's there, let
me do part two. I think the first part was
to convince her what amazing campus is and this and that,
and then once she said yes, then he made his
phone calls. But I can understand your point as well,
is let me get her there and get her this
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interview to get her the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I just I always felt like that was why he
was asking her, because he was planning to get her
this appointment.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh, I could see that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I definitely just thought it was to get her there
to convince her. And then again like that's I guess
that's why I broke it up in my head, because
in my head it was a two parter.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, I kind of see it more as like all
one thing. Like he had this reunion that he was
going to go to, and he probably thought, in his head, hmm,
I'm going to be at Yale. That would be a
perfect opportunity to get Rory to go talk to my
buddy the admission.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I know he's going to be there because I have
this reunion.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, right, That's that's how I always interpreted it.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But I mean, and it was really shady that he
didn't even tell Emily. Yes, yeah, I mean the whole
thing was shady, but she.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Would try to well, man, she might not have tried
to talk him out of it.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well. And that's the one thing that bothered me was
Emily didn't know.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And clearly that was obvious to loreli because at one
point she's like, well, Mom's face looks confused, so.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Like she isn't know. Yeah, but then when Emily's talking
to Lorelai, she still defended her husband. Yeah, and I
was like, you could have met you. I get defending
your husband, I get it, but she could have been like,
was he trying to do what's best for Rory in
his mind? Sure, but it was still a crappy thing
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to do.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And she just can't see both sides, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Well, I mean Emily just her mindset is always the
loural lives wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So yeah, so she can't see the other side.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, that's just exactly. She just naturally gravitates, you know,
towards what Richard says. But yeah, the whole thing, the
whole thing was crappy. Although it did it was I
did like the part where we got that little bit
of Richard and Emily's backstory. That was kind of cute,
the two of them, you know, flirting over the trash can, and.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It was very not Richard and Emily, which was kind
of nice, Like it was.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, it was kind of surprising, like Richard was already engaged.
He said they had sent out the invitations all right,
So that was you know, surprising to find out that
Emily was you know, yeah, but they were cute. I
thought it was like kind of cute and floridian. They
looked happy and not snotty.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Also, was this UCLA or usc.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
This I believe was one of the Pomona colleges. Oh yeah,
or it might have been occidental.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Jackie said it was Pomona College.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Okay, because the whole time, I again, I was so
into the episode, I didn't like click out of my
phone to go google it, and I was like it
was a beautiful campus by the way, and made it
very yaleish, Like it's like, you know, what's so funny,
Maybe my brain thinks of Yale and like all these
East Coast schools like this because of Gilmour girls. Hmmm,
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because I've never I never went to those schools and
ever toured them, and I grew up in Los Angeles,
and so I was like, oh, it's so beautiful and
like fall and like stuff like that. It's so funny
because I'm like, I wanted to say, that's what I
think of when I see schools like Harvard or Yale.
But I guess I'd never seen anything besides like this
show or what they make it look like in other shows.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's true, but you know it's trees and old buildings,
like you can make it look like whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the giant yell sign in
my as a kid tale.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I did.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I did. Like.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The one thing I found very odd was when Emily
was so confused by Lorelei fixing her button with a
with a paper clip.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, because I'm like, what did you? Oh wait, paper clip?
I was thinking it was a bobby pin.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh I think it was a paper clip.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, okay, because I was just okay, paper clip makes
it more Yeah, okay that I think. When I heard
paper clip.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I thought bobby pin. I'm like, why is that so weird?
But now I guess it kind of makes sense. Also,
can a paper clip hold it together? I guess if
you really like work, I mean, it.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Depends if the thread is still there and you could
like loop it through the thread that was holding the button.
I don't know, maybe I think we're just supposed to
use our imagination.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, no one again, no one's sitting here to dissect
this much.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Back in two thousand and two, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, the whole thing was kind of kind of weird,
like it just was kind of out of nowhere that
her button brakes.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well, it was literally to get Rory and Richard alone
to talk for thirty seconds, like we could have done
something else. It was just it was also like the
bending over the trash, and that's how the butt I
was like, and she wasn't even bending, she just leaned forward.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah yeah, so, and I speaking of getting Richard and
Rory alone together, that was a cute moment I thought.
When they were Richard was talking about how Laura la
used to take his diploma and she wouldn't give it
back and she said she was gonna go to Yale,
and then he got kind of misty, like he got
a little, you know, nostalgic, and he actually seemed to
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show some emotion for his daughter, which I thought was
a unique change.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I liked that well not for long.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, yeah, that's how it is with them. Now you
have one good moment and then they ruin it fifteen
minutes later.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Truly, not even fifteen minutes because solid seven.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, I did feel bad for Rory though, when like,
as someone who's very type A, like I would freak
out if someone put me in a room with someone
I was not prepared, like she said, Yeah, like I
wouldn't have dressed like this, Like I think about those
things all the time, Like I would have prepared or
like I remember when I used to go to job
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interviews or like stuff like that, Like I would like
practice in my car, like talking out loud things like
that that where you would or even like given give
yourself scenarios in your head of what they last you,
and then you prompt yourself with an answer.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And so I really did feel for her then, because
that sucks, like and Rory is so put together.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
She was in by the way, not that she was
dressed poorly.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
She was in jeans and a sweater, but like if
I were meeting the dean of admissions, I'd be wearing
something very nice.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah. Yeah, And Richard was so concerned with keeping the
whole thing a secret from everybody, that he didn't even
think about that impact on Rory. Yeah, exactly, and like
that she would have done it. All he had to
do was ask and she would have done it. Like
he didn't need to be sneaky with her about it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, And honestly, I don't think he was thinking about her.
I think he was thinking about himself. He wanted to brag.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I mean, he just in general wants to brag and say,
my granddaughter is going to Yale. Period. I don't think
he's ever thought about Rory in this equation.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But then they leave, and uh, I will say, listen,
Emily has some ringers. But her saying at the end, well,
didn't you think that she'd be able to live at home?
And I'm like, oh, Emily, like that was, yeah, you
knew what you were doing there. And then already Yeah
the end, at the end, both of them are looking
(17:19):
at well, think about it. That cab ride back to
stars Hollow probably made them both realize like, oh crap,
this is actually closer than we realize. Yeah, And at
the end they both looked at the pamphlets and you know,
at the beginning of the end, yeah, but I do
have a quick just to sidebar who is bringing tacos
(17:41):
to another restaurant.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Especially after like what a thirty or forty minute cab ride.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like yeah, and also I just love that I thought
it and then Luke said it out loud like it
was just so obvious, like hello, like yeah, and then
she just like leaves. I mean obviously we know why,
but she just leaves her taco there.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, two bites and then she's gone, speaking of leaving. Okay,
so we have the gas pump moment with that great
XTC song playing in the background. I have to give
that a shout out. That's on my favorite list on Spotify.
But then can we talk for a minute about her
climbing the tree and going to Dean's window? What the hell.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It was? You know?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's so funny is I was like I was thinking,
and I'm like, I don't know if Suzanne's gonna like
think it's weird that I make this comment, but I
was gonna say, like, did you suddenly become athletic and
you climbed the trees?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Like would there a ladder? Like can we get and
then like to perfectly just sit there like and also
you could have just knocked on the.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Door, or like waited until the next.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Day, or thrown a pebble from the.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't know. The whole thing was so cringe, and
I get that she was trying to apologize, but it
didn't come out that way. I don't know. The whole
thing was just a really bad idea, and she could
have just talked to him like the next day, waited
for him after school, or something like tried to find
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him at the market. I don't know. There's it's like
there were other ways she could have done that. It
just was really strange.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The only part of that, the only part of that
I actually really like.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
The I don't know. I guess it felt symbolic was
when he just closed the window on.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I was like, you know, what good for you? See?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I know I was glad that he kind of was like, well,
too bad, someone doesn't like you.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And that's why I kind of like, even though I
was like, how the hell is she climbed, it was
worth it for that shutting of the window.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I actually wanted her have to close the curtain a
little bit too. I wanted to like shut her out completely.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
But if you're in a second story bedroom and someone
knocks on your window at night, like that would scare them.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
By the way, you just did a twenty four hour marathon.
He still must be sore. Let's not forget.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Like this is probably like a couple. Well no, this
is this is a week later because they all ran
Friday night dinner and.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Then it was the following weekend.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
So yeah, but still that's true. Yeah, but that I
just I wrote that in my notes and I highlighted
in red.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Just yeah, it was that whole thing was just cringe. Yeah,
but I think the So I have an important question
from this episode that never got answered. Okay, did Kirk
ever get his trophy back? Because like this the b
or C story in this episode trophy ye find his trophy?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
We never find. I don't think we ever will know.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It's just also, wait, he had won, like this is
like his fifth year in a row.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Winning ninety ninety nine. Two thoughts.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yes, I did, can't fifty We ask four other ones.
It probably got mixed up with the others.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
But I'm dying to know what happen into it?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So funny.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Did it get stolen? Did he lose it?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think I think because it's Kirk, I like truly
just don't pay attention. I'm like, all right, well.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He probably like left it on a park bench or something,
so I probably returned to the town small.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, everyone has to hear that he won. So it's fine.
Did you have any more call outs for this or
you know this said episode?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It was solid. There wasn't a lot of you know.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Ohso we weren't in stars Hollow that much.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And even when we were like by the like by
the gas pump, like, it's not what we usually see.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So yeah, yeah, I had to watch that scene a
couple of times because I couldn't figure out where it was.
It almost the first time I watched it, it didn't
look like it was at Gypsy's. But then I watched
it a few more times than they were they were outside.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It was a great angle.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Whatever it was it was, it was definitely different. And yeah, yeah,
thank goodness, just didn't like the cigarette while he was
standing next to.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
The gay Oh my god? Yeah, could you not even
think about that? Oh man?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
All right, well, next week we're gonna talk about season three,
episode nine, a deep fried Korean Thanksgiving. We'll see you
next week.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Meeting adjourn do.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hey guys, welcome back to the episode of I'm All
in Town Meeting with Myself furn Susanne. Hello, Hi, Let's
get into season three, episode eight, Let the Games Begin,
which aired on November nineteenth, two thousand and two.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, so this episode picks up immediately after the end
of the last episode, like they're taking the banner down. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So I watched them back to back because of the
holiday the way we recorded this, we ended up doing
it back to back, and I was like, what a
great episode to watch right after because like the first
scene out, they're limping the morning after the dance marathon.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah. So we talked in the last episode about the
whole timing of the dance marathon itself. But I have
another timing issue I need to talk about here. Okay,
So when the when the episode opens, it's Monday morning
because Rory's in her school uniform, and we saw the
(01:23):
sign both in the last episode and in this opening
scene that says the dance marathon is Saturday six am
to Sunday six am. And Laura. I says to Rory,
you've been up for twenty four hours straight, but she
hasn't because the dance marathon ended Sunday morning and now
it's Monday morning, so they had all day Sunday and
(01:46):
all night Sunday night to sleep. I mean yeah, immediately
after the dance, like it's twenty four hours later.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But I could I could picture it being like.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They were doing like maybe she was studying on that
Sunday and barely slept, you know, yeah maybe, Like I mean,
think about it like a big weekend like that, Like
you're not getting a full, full, full, full night.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's like a couple of days recover. So yeah, but
I go, yeah, saying.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Definitely they would be tired, but they have not been
up for twenty four hours too.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah when I saw them limping.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So I've done a half marathon before, and I did
it the Disneyland would do the you know the runs
like the Run Disney, and so I did. This was
like twenty seventeen that I did it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I will not be doing it now.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I remember we were staying at a hotel at Disney
and when I was done with the half marathon, I
went obviously, like you don't sit right away, you walk
it off and like you know, and I went and
took a shower, and then after the shower, I sat
for a second and then got back up. And I
had to drive home that day because we weren't like
I'm not like the people who can like stay at
Disneyland all day and like enjoy the theme park like
(02:57):
no way. Well, my drive home was one hour and
getting out of the car after sitting for one hour, yeah,
like I I think I literally asked my dad to
come like hold my hands, like getting out of the car.
But that's what I reminded me of because I was like, oh,
that's the pain I remember.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh, I have only done five k's, Like I am
not a runner. I do not like running, but I've
done a couple five k's and been the same way.
I can't even imagine doing an entire ho marathon.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In my defense, I walked and jogged because it was
like that year, it was like the hottest day in
like the last five years at like that early in
the morning, and they literally made announcement like everyone please
like do not try to run, like just walk. Yeah,
and I will say I think I like walked most
(03:46):
of it and jogged like a quarter of it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, but still it's still like, what is it thirteen
point one miles?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's way more than I can.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I give people credit who do like multiple as I
couldn't do. If you want to, you listeners are runners
because no things. Yeah, I got my medal and that's
all that matters.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Anyway. But the jets and the rary is so awkward.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, the whole high By thing and the diner I
thought was funny because Luke was like completely oblivious, Oh yeah,
what's happening here?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And then go and then I like how at the
end it was like a call back to the high
bides or he like finishes it for them. Yeah, I
mean it's it's so funny because like they've been fine
with each other before and then suddenly like, yeah, they
don't know how to act.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's like very like childish. I mean they were in
high school, so I get it, but you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It was kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'm not a.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Jess fan, but I thought that was cute.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, I thought it was awkward. Yeah, I personally preferred
the final scene over anything else between going on between.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Them, Yes, the gas pump scene.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yes, which, by the way, did you notice I was
watching this episode and you know how like usually I
was watching it on my phone just so I because
I was eating so I was like, let me just
do this at the same time.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Did you notice that, like at the beginning I think.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think it's right when the episode starts, or maybe
it's right after the music it said like language and sex.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Did you see that? No?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, so it says like because it's like viewer discretion
or whatever, like in the very corner of it, it
says like language and sex. And in my head, I
was like, well, before the episode started, I was like,
what is going to happen in this episode that I
don't remember? But it was alluding to that they were
up in like behind closed door. They may bee that
make sex okay, But it was just a really interesting
(05:43):
like I had never noticed that. Maybe I just never
noticed it before, but on this episode it says like
language and sex at the at the beginning of the episode.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Funny, I've never paid attention to that. I wonder what
they meant with the language though, Like.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know, But I also I wonder if I
watched it on my phone this time. So I also
wonder if, like does it not show it on like
like your Netflix, AAP on your TV.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I don't know, I it does. I just never pay
attention to it.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, anyway, I don't know. This one caught my eye
for some reason.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But that's why I was like, what's happening this episode
that I forgot about?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
So there was some nice product placement, the coco Coca cola, yeah,
front and center, and also chocolate and coca cola sounds
terrible together. It does sound weird. I was wondering what
chocolate they were eating. I was because it looked like
it might have been garadelly because it looked like square
like squares.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Also sounded like they were breaking it off.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And they were in they were in red wrappers, you
know how like Gara Delly has the foil wrappers. That's all.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And it was Mini's right. It wasn't that big.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, But when she when she took a sip of
the coke after eating the chocolate, I was like, oh
that was yeah, listen, I love a good soda and
a good chocolate not together.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
But I guess let's jump into the Yale of it all.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I thought the whole thing was kind of crappy
of Richard. I understand why he did it, but I
hate that he and Emily are always tricking Rory.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well which part because I actually wanted to break this
into two parts because I was sitting here and like
dissecting the episode into two parter. My part one was
he wanted to show her Yale where he went to school,
and that's fine, sure. My part two is the meeting
with the dean of admissions, So I kind of broke
(07:39):
it up into two. Do I think the first part
is crappy because he kind of threw it at her
and he knew Rory will say yes, yes. However, I
understood the intention, and then the second part I just
thought was one hundred percent crappy.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, I mean, I I think I get where he
coming from that he thinks he needs to steer Rory
through this college application process because he knows that Loralai
doesn't have the actual.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Which was so rude to say.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's very it's rude and it's condescending, But at the
same time, I understand that's where his brain was and
that's why he did it, and he you know he
he isn't willing to just leave it to chance that
she's going to get into an Ivy League school. So
I kind of get that. But at the same time,
(08:33):
he totally manipulated her, and they do crap like that
to her all the time, and she lets them do it,
like the debutante ball. I mean, she knows. She even
said she knew they were manipulating her, but she doesn't
like she just lets them do it. She won't stand
up to them, which I was kind of glad she
stood up to him at the end, like after the interview.
(08:57):
So I don't know, I mean, I I mean, he didn't.
He didn't he knew at the beginning when he was
asking her to go see Yale with him, he knew
it was for the admissions interview, Like it wasn't like
he thought of that later and decided to schedule the
interview because they were going to be there anyways.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But do you think that he did that, Well, yes,
but I think that he did that once she said
yes to the first part.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I don't think so. I feel like that's what he
was setting her up for.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
See.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I thought that it was like and again, there are
probably so many different takes on this. My take was,
let me get her there. Now that she's there, let
me do part two. I think the first part was
to convince her what amazing campus is and this and that,
and then once she said yes, then he made his
phone calls. But I can understand your point as well,
is let me get her there and get her this
(09:53):
interview to get her the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I just I always felt like that was why he
was asking her, because he was planning to get her
this appointment.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh, I could see that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I definitely just thought it was to get her there
to convince her. And then again like that's I guess
that's why I broke it up in my head, because
in my head it was a two parter.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, I kind of see it more as like all
one thing. Like he had this reunion that he was
going to go to, and he probably thought, in his head, hmm,
I'm going to be at Yale. That would be a
perfect opportunity to get Rory to go talk to my
buddy the admission.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I know he's going to be there because I have
this reunion.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, right, That's that's how I always interpreted it.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But I mean, and it was really shady that he
didn't even tell Emily. Yes, yeah, I mean the whole
thing was shady, but she.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Would try to well, man, she might not have tried
to talk him out of it.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well. And that's the one thing that bothered me was
Emily didn't know.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And clearly that was obvious to loreli because at one
point she's like, well, Mom's face looks confused, so.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Like she isn't know. Yeah, but then when Emily's talking
to Lorelai, she still defended her husband. Yeah, and I
was like, you could have met you. I get defending
your husband, I get it, but she could have been like,
was he trying to do what's best for Rory in
his mind? Sure, but it was still a crappy thing
(11:17):
to do.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And she just can't see both sides, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Well, I mean Emily just her mindset is always the
loural lives wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So yeah, so she can't see the other side.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, that's just exactly. She just naturally gravitates, you know,
towards what Richard says. But yeah, the whole thing, the
whole thing was crappy. Although it did it was I
did like the part where we got that little bit
of Richard and Emily's backstory. That was kind of cute,
the two of them, you know, flirting over the trash can, and.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It was very not Richard and Emily, which was kind
of nice, Like it was.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, it was kind of surprising, like Richard was already engaged.
He said they had sent out the invitations all right,
So that was you know, surprising to find out that
Emily was you know, yeah, but they were cute. I
thought it was like kind of cute and floridian. They
looked happy and not snotty.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Also, was this UCLA or usc.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
This I believe was one of the Pomona colleges. Oh yeah,
or it might have been occidental.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Jackie said it was Pomona College.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Okay, because the whole time, I again, I was so
into the episode, I didn't like click out of my
phone to go google it, and I was like it
was a beautiful campus by the way, and made it
very yaleish, Like it's like, you know, what's so funny,
Maybe my brain thinks of Yale and like all these
East Coast schools like this because of Gilmour girls. Hmmm,
(13:01):
because I've never I never went to those schools and
ever toured them, and I grew up in Los Angeles,
and so I was like, oh, it's so beautiful and
like fall and like stuff like that. It's so funny
because I'm like, I wanted to say, that's what I
think of when I see schools like Harvard or Yale.
But I guess I'd never seen anything besides like this
show or what they make it look like in other shows.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's true, but you know it's trees and old buildings,
like you can make it look like whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the giant yell sign in
my as a kid tale.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I did.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I did. Like.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The one thing I found very odd was when Emily
was so confused by Lorelei fixing her button with a
with a paper clip.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, because I'm like, what did you? Oh wait, paper clip?
I was thinking it was a bobby pin.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh I think it was a paper clip.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, okay, because I was just okay, paper clip makes
it more Yeah, okay that I think. When I heard
paper clip.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I thought bobby pin. I'm like, why is that so weird?
But now I guess it kind of makes sense. Also,
can a paper clip hold it together? I guess if
you really like work, I mean, it.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Depends if the thread is still there and you could
like loop it through the thread that was holding the button.
I don't know, maybe I think we're just supposed to
use our imagination.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, no one again, no one's sitting here to dissect
this much.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Back in two thousand and two, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, the whole thing was kind of kind of weird,
like it just was kind of out of nowhere that
her button brakes.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well, it was literally to get Rory and Richard alone
to talk for thirty seconds, like we could have done
something else. It was just it was also like the
bending over the trash, and that's how the butt I
was like, and she wasn't even bending, she just leaned forward.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah yeah, so, and I speaking of getting Richard and
Rory alone together, that was a cute moment I thought.
When they were Richard was talking about how Laura la
used to take his diploma and she wouldn't give it
back and she said she was gonna go to Yale,
and then he got kind of misty, like he got
a little, you know, nostalgic, and he actually seemed to
(15:15):
show some emotion for his daughter, which I thought was
a unique change.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I liked that well not for long.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, yeah, that's how it is with them. Now you
have one good moment and then they ruin it fifteen
minutes later.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Truly, not even fifteen minutes because solid seven.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, I did feel bad for Rory though, when like,
as someone who's very type A, like I would freak
out if someone put me in a room with someone
I was not prepared, like she said, Yeah, like I
wouldn't have dressed like this, Like I think about those
things all the time, Like I would have prepared or
like I remember when I used to go to job
(15:54):
interviews or like stuff like that, Like I would like
practice in my car, like talking out loud things like
that that where you would or even like given give
yourself scenarios in your head of what they last you,
and then you prompt yourself with an answer.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And so I really did feel for her then, because
that sucks, like and Rory is so put together.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
She was in by the way, not that she was
dressed poorly.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
She was in jeans and a sweater, but like if
I were meeting the dean of admissions, I'd be wearing
something very nice.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah. Yeah, And Richard was so concerned with keeping the
whole thing a secret from everybody, that he didn't even
think about that impact on Rory. Yeah, exactly, and like
that she would have done it. All he had to
do was ask and she would have done it. Like
he didn't need to be sneaky with her about it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, And honestly, I don't think he was thinking about her.
I think he was thinking about himself. He wanted to brag.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I mean, he just in general wants to brag and say,
my granddaughter is going to Yale. Period. I don't think
he's ever thought about Rory in this equation.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But then they leave, and uh, I will say, listen,
Emily has some ringers. But her saying at the end, well,
didn't you think that she'd be able to live at home?
And I'm like, oh, Emily, like that was, yeah, you
knew what you were doing there. And then already Yeah
the end, at the end, both of them are looking
(17:19):
at well, think about it. That cab ride back to
stars Hollow probably made them both realize like, oh crap,
this is actually closer than we realize. Yeah, And at
the end they both looked at the pamphlets and you know,
at the beginning of the end, yeah, but I do
have a quick just to sidebar who is bringing tacos
(17:41):
to another restaurant.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Especially after like what a thirty or forty minute cab ride.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like yeah, and also I just love that I thought
it and then Luke said it out loud like it
was just so obvious, like hello, like yeah, and then
she just like leaves. I mean obviously we know why,
but she just leaves her taco there.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, two bites and then she's gone, speaking of leaving. Okay,
so we have the gas pump moment with that great
XTC song playing in the background. I have to give
that a shout out. That's on my favorite list on Spotify.
But then can we talk for a minute about her
climbing the tree and going to Dean's window? What the hell.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It was? You know?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's so funny is I was like I was thinking,
and I'm like, I don't know if Suzanne's gonna like
think it's weird that I make this comment, but I
was gonna say, like, did you suddenly become athletic and
you climbed the trees?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Like would there a ladder? Like can we get and
then like to perfectly just sit there like and also
you could have just knocked on the.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Door, or like waited until the next.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Day, or thrown a pebble from the.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't know. The whole thing was so cringe, and
I get that she was trying to apologize, but it
didn't come out that way. I don't know. The whole
thing was just a really bad idea, and she could
have just talked to him like the next day, waited
for him after school, or something like tried to find
(19:15):
him at the market. I don't know. There's it's like
there were other ways she could have done that. It
just was really strange.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The only part of that, the only part of that
I actually really like.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
The I don't know. I guess it felt symbolic was
when he just closed the window on.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I was like, you know, what good for you? See?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I know I was glad that he kind of was like, well,
too bad, someone doesn't like you.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And that's why I kind of like, even though I
was like, how the hell is she climbed, it was
worth it for that shutting of the window.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I actually wanted her have to close the curtain a
little bit too. I wanted to like shut her out completely.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
But if you're in a second story bedroom and someone
knocks on your window at night, like that would scare them.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
By the way, you just did a twenty four hour marathon.
He still must be sore. Let's not forget.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Like this is probably like a couple. Well no, this
is this is a week later because they all ran
Friday night dinner and.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Then it was the following weekend.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
So yeah, but still that's true. Yeah, but that I
just I wrote that in my notes and I highlighted
in red.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Just yeah, it was that whole thing was just cringe. Yeah,
but I think the So I have an important question
from this episode that never got answered. Okay, did Kirk
ever get his trophy back? Because like this the b
or C story in this episode trophy ye find his trophy?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
We never find. I don't think we ever will know.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It's just also, wait, he had won, like this is
like his fifth year in a row.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Winning ninety ninety nine. Two thoughts.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yes, I did, can't fifty We ask four other ones.
It probably got mixed up with the others.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
But I'm dying to know what happen into it?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So funny.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Did it get stolen? Did he lose it?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think I think because it's Kirk, I like truly
just don't pay attention. I'm like, all right, well.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He probably like left it on a park bench or something,
so I probably returned to the town small.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, everyone has to hear that he won. So it's fine.
Did you have any more call outs for this or
you know this said episode?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It was solid. There wasn't a lot of you know.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Ohso we weren't in stars Hollow that much.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And even when we were like by the like by
the gas pump, like, it's not what we usually see.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So yeah, yeah, I had to watch that scene a
couple of times because I couldn't figure out where it was.
It almost the first time I watched it, it didn't
look like it was at Gypsy's. But then I watched
it a few more times than they were they were outside.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It was a great angle.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Whatever it was it was, it was definitely different. And yeah, yeah,
thank goodness, just didn't like the cigarette while he was
standing next to.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
The gay Oh my god? Yeah, could you not even
think about that? Oh man?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
All right, well, next week we're gonna talk about season three,
episode nine, a deep fried Korean Thanksgiving. We'll see you
next week.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Meeting adjourn do.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Hey, everybody, and don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at
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