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It’s one of our favorites and is a classic Gilmore Girls episode!
We are calling out a major red flag on Jamie showing up and swooping Paris off her feet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all in again. Oh that's just you. I
Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and Tara
(00:21):
suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to another
episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with Myself, Torrence, Suzanne, Hello, Hello.
Today we're talking about season three, episode seven, They Shoot
Gilmore's Don't They, which aired on November twelfth, two thousand
and two. And this is, I think, officially after watching it,
(00:41):
like the twentieth time, my favorite episode of Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, this episode is a classic. I just I love
the clothes, I love the town feeling, the drama. I mean,
I'm an even jazz fan, but I just I don't know,
it's just a great episode.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
What made me realize, like it was the one moment
of this episode where I was like, oh, this is
so symbolic to like what describes Stars Hollow is the
very very final scene when Rory and Loralai are hugging
on the on the dance floor and Kirk is running
around with his trophy and it's playing the rocky song.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I was like, that describes this entire town to a t.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, the absurdity of it. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I yeah, but yeah, it was such a good you know,
I will say just to jump right in it. The
speaking of Kirk. Did you notice that in this episode,
Like when Rory is telling Laura, I like, oh, like,
Kirk has nothing. He doesn't have a career. I'm like,
are we going to ignore the seventy five careers that
Kirk has had? That's true, but I guess he doesn't
(01:50):
have a stable career. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
He doesn't really seem to have a focus.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, he just bops around. Someone hires him for the day. Yeah,
but that bar threw me off. I was like, he
kind of does it just depends on the day or
the week.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah. Yeah, his focus is to not be focused.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, exactly. Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
In the in the opening scene, there's a woman in
the background with red hair, and if you watch her,
she just sits there stirring her food. It's like oatmeal
or something, or maybe it was just cereal, I don't know.
You see her just stirring, stirring, stirring, stirring, story. She
never takes a bite, she never pretends to eat it,
(02:30):
she never like lifts the spoon out of the bowl.
At first, I thought she was stirring her coffee. But
then when they were showing from a different angle, you
could see it's her bowl oatmeal.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
In her defense, I have to be in the mood
for oatmeal, and if I had to take like seventy
takes of eating oatmeal, I'd probably be over it.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, she's not even pretending though, She's just straight up
like it would lift an empty spoon and people wouldn't
be able to you know, a lot of focus and
you know people wouldn't know, but she's just during story.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Did you notice the clown pillow in this episode?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, it was like kind of in between, like when
Lane moved a certain way, you could get a little.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Not gonna lie. I kind of blacked out that scene
because I was so focused on making sure I see
the clown pillow, because I saw red that I had
to rewatch the scene because I just wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, that was that was good. And let's see, Oh,
you know, right before the scene before that, this was
like such a minor storyline, but I want to just
touch on it. This was the first time so talking
about Jamie coming back and with Paris Son not like
a major.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I forgot about it. You're right, I got buried in
this episode.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It did, and you know, this was the first time
I actually realized. So we're in November now, and their
date was in the summer. It was when they went
to that summer program in Washington, d C. And so
they went on the one date in the summer, and
then he completely ghosted.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Her for like three months, for like.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Three months, and then he shows back up like aren't
you want to see me? And she's like she's falling
all over him. I'm like, that's like he just expected
her to be flattered that he's doing the favor of coming.
I don't know, it just really I was like, yeah, crappy.
I never thought about that before.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I never thought of the timeline because I just don't
pay attention to like Paris's timeline as much as we
pay attention to other ones. Yeah, but this sounds terrible.
Don't take this the wrong way the audience or Suzanne.
But Paris is a little desperate when it comes to boys.
So like I kind of wasn't surprised, Like this sounds
(04:40):
so mean, but like she's not getting any other dates
right now, so you might as well take the opportunity,
you know, what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's true. I mean I understand for Paris why she
would have been like, oh my gosh, and you know,
gone back out with him. But I just I never really,
it never really occurred to me how much time had
passed since that one date in Washington, d C. And
now and then he like didn't even call her out,
Like that's really crappy. And yeah it was because we
(05:08):
see more of Jamie, you know, in future episodes. And
I always kind of liked him. I thought he was
a good enough guy, and I didn't like the way that,
you know, Paris gets rid of him. But now I'm
thinking he's kind of a jerk. So yeah, he deserved
what he got.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And also just this episode was so big when it
came to like the dance marathon, the Jess and Dean
of it all that I was just kind of like,
I wish they plucked this storyline. Yeah, it's kind of
like a C storyline in a sense, like a like
in ABC. But yeah, I mean it wasn't. I mean,
I get why they put it here because there's just
so much happening from now until basically the next four
(05:43):
or five episodes of this series the season. Yeah, but yeah,
I kind of just completely forgot that was in this episode.
I was like, what this episode before?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, and then I did kind of stretching that out
a little bit. I loved the scene in the chiltn
Bio Lab when Paris agrees to postpone.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Working on specials are just begging.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Met Louise, are immediately trying to find dates.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
In all honesty, like not anymore. Listen, if someone cancels
on me. Now that I'm in my thirties, I will
happily sit in my room to watch TV in bed
and do nothing. But when I feel like in high
school and in my twenties, like in college, if someone
canceled on me and I had the mind instead of
going out I needed or like something happened where I
(06:29):
was free, I would jump on the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So I was just like, oh man, that felt familiar,
like you're out of a school project. Tell y'all, maybe
not like on a date, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
By the way, I don't have any call outs for
this episode, because in my head this episode was perfect,
but I know you probably have some. I have a couple, Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But first of all, I have to say I can't
I may have mentioned this in the last episode, and
I can't remember if it was on the air, if
it was when we were just a conversation, but lorelized
dress in this episode is my favorite outfit in the
entire series. I love that the blulue dress.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And it's I'm not your hair with it body, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
The forties kind of hair. I don't. It's just my
favorite outfit. It's just such a pretty dress, and then
like the sweetheart neckline with the halter top. It just
is so flattering.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Have you ever a little off topic? But I recently
just went to Disneyland and I had no idea, but
it was Dapper Day when I went. Have you ever
seen like dapper Day at Disneyland?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, So, like I just had gone and then just
watched this episode and I was like, oh my god,
I just saw all these like kind of like the
hairstyles and the outfit, so it kind of I was like, Oh,
it's so like very dapper of them.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah. Was it crowded. It's always crowded on that day.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, it was. Well, it's funny because it was raining
in La So I feel like people a lot of
people just didn't go. But my mom and I were
like fully prepared with umbrellas and like raincoats, and it
shockingly didn't rain. There was like a drop of a drizzle,
which nothing, but it was like the only like Sunday
we could have gone. Yeah, and in the rain is fun.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We just love that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Okay, it's fun when it's raining decently. When it's like flooding,
it is not fun. I have done it both ways,
and not on purpose. The one time I went to
Disney and it was like supposed to be a drizzle
soose years ago, and it started like downpouring and half
the rides that are like all the outdoor rides close,
so then you're stuck with the indoor rides. But then
(08:28):
so is everyone else, so then everyone's in life. It's
just the whole thing. But but Disney and Florida when
it's raining because they are so prepared is also pretty
brutal because now it's just hot and sticky.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Right, Okay, we we totally got off topic there.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Sorry, I just I had just seen when I was watching.
I was like, oh my god, I just saw these
dapper outfits in the hair, That's what I reminded me.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, the clothes, the clothes were great, but Larelized dress specifically,
in my mind, just is a standout for the series.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But she should have worn better shoes.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
She could have worn shoes that were made a few
decades later.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but they were silver.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I don't know. I thought it was they were kind
of pretty. But I thought Rory's dress was okay. But
it's a little plane, I thought.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, I mean it was fine, It just wasn't I mean,
it wasn't. Listen, this was like Laurelized Super Bowl. So yeah,
she was dressing to impress.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's true. So one thing I kept noticing because they
make a point throughout the episode of showing you the
clock and how many couples are left and how much
time has passed. So I actually was paying attention to
it this time and like what events were happening at
what time of day because we saw a sign in
(09:54):
the beginning that the dance mayor then started at six
am on Saturday morning and it was going to go
to six am on Sunday morning. So everything was fine
in the beginning, like the times were okay, and then
as it's as it got later, so they showed the clock.
Let me see at so there were six couples left
(10:18):
at five am, so twenty three hours had elapsed. YEA,
during the final hour, it's five am, there's six couples left,
and then at six ten they showed the clock so
we know exactly what it was. That's when Rory started
complaining about Jess looking at her and why does he
(10:41):
keep staring at me? And she's dancing with Dean at
this point because getting her shoe fixed, so she's dancing
with Dean and she's going on and on and on
about Jess and then that's like that's when they start
that confrontation where Jess comes up. He's like, you're talking
about Shane and she concerns me of all that, and
then Dean breaks up with her. That whole confrontation happens.
(11:02):
Then we see Rory sitting by the lake. Yeah, Jess
talks to her, and then it goes back in the.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Gym and Lourai comes back and it's.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Only five thirteen am.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So it's only been three minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So it's only been three minutes. They had the whole confrontation.
Laurie Laurie, Rory and Jess wind up at the lake.
Then they or Rory comes back in the gym and
it's only five thirteen, and that's when and at now
three minutes later, now there's only two couples left, and
then that's when the other couple passes out, and Kirk's like,
(11:38):
I won, I won.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was it was five It realistically could have like
I would have believed fifteen minutes. But also when the
one thing I noticed about timing of this episode was
Luke had glue at the diner and he went to
go get in and come back, and it was like
possibly ten seconds later. Yeah, so that's another role. I'm like,
I know the diner's closed, but ten seconds close?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah. And it was funny because if they hadn't shown
the clock, I wouldn't have even noticed it, but they
made a point to show the clock saying five to
thirteen am, Like didn't they think, didn't they realize that
only three minutes had passed since the last time.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
They You know, it's so funny that because I didn't
pay attention to the clock, but I was paying attention
to the number on their backs were sixty seven, and
I was trying to figure out if that's a significant number,
and I did I forgot to look it up. But
is that the sixty seventh episode of the series, do
we know? Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
No, I don't think so, because it should only be
like forty eight forty nine. Maybe because there's twenty two.
If you says twenty two episodes a season, then seasons
one and two would have been about forty four episodes,
and now we're on season or episode seven, so that
would be about fifty or fifty one.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Episode sixty seven of the series is season four, episode two,
the lorealized first day at Yale. So no, but I
was wondering if there was a significance, because I feel
like there's always some one maybe not or maybe they's
just someone's favorite number and they decided to throw it
on there, but something for some reason.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I was like, it probably meant something to someone.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, and if someone one of our listeners know, just
like put in the comments so we could read it
back next time. But yeah, I was just wondering. I'm like,
what was was there significance? But clearly not if we're
doing the numbers wrong on the clock over here. Yeah,
I did notice twenty three hours, but I didn't pay
attention to the clock.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, I never had before this, and then I
started watching it really closely.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
The other thing too that made me laugh is and
I know maybe the viewers were meant to notice this,
but when Dave shows it up and he's talking to
Lane and he's saying his parents are at a private
Bible study, you know, because he knows that yes, yes,
it's five o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Wait. But also my thing that well, there's that. But
also my thing was like they made a stack of
sandwiches and missus Kim said this, the bread is only
gonna last twenty more minutes, so you just wasted all
that bread.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Right, Well, you know, eggless egg salad probably is not
real popular.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
By the way, is there in one of these recipe
books that like the Gilmour recipe books? Is there a
recipe for eggless egg salad?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I don't know, because I was truly wondering.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It seems like it would be a perfect candidate from
a book like that. There probably is, because I.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Was like eggless egg, like, like what is what what
is the alternative to egg? Because like I understand, like
you can do like a like a like a like
a burger. You can do like a like a different
kind of patty, you know what I mean, like a
vestable patty.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I don't know what they use. I mean it seems like,
I don't know, maybe potato, like a b baked potato.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I guess you could do potato. But then that's just
potato salad. Oh, mashed tofu? Do we know if it's mashed?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Im googling and there's like several websites that say, like
eggless salad, and the whole Google page is just a
lot of it is mashed tofu.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So Reddit has eggless egg salad. Yeah, I guess the
consistency of tofu could be close to like yeah, like
like an egg white.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
We we have the cookbook authors at our podcast event.
We should I have the book downstairs.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I should go look it up, look it up later
and then we'll bring it back around. Yeah. Same, we're on.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, all of them kind of just say mash tofu.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I guess mash tofu makes sense. But yeah, it was
like the whole time, I'm like one of two things, one,
how is this bread in the last twenty more minutes
to what the heck is eggless egg salad? Yeah, And
then it made me want an egg salad sandwich.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Right, I know, I know, I love egg salad.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And then the other classic line for me was when
missus Kim asks Jess who he is? Oh, yeah, and
he says Jess and then there's a pause and he goes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I love that part. I do have to say, listen,
I understand what Jess was trying to do here with
like messing with Rory, but what did he think was
the outcome?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And then he felt bad when they broke up, So
it's like, well, you were you had no business as
much of as much as I like Jess, you really
had no business being there. And then you're sitting and
watching and then at one point Shane wanted to leave
and he made them like what did you think was
going to happen?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right? Well, And that's the other thing I noticed too,
because I was watching the clock. Both Jess, Jess, and
so Dean came in first and then Jess and Shane
were not that far behind him. That was at like noon,
so they sat there for like seventeen hours or yeah,
So that's crazy, Like who would sit there all night
(17:01):
staring at Rory?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Listen if you're trying to win someone over.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
But that's what I'm saying, especially Shane, Like I don't
see her putting up with that for so long.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
But also that's my point. You're sitting there for seventeen hours.
What was the angle to get the girl? You got
the girl, but you acted so like, oh shoot, you
know when it all happened, like anyway, I just thought
it was And then he did feel really bad, as
he should know. I don't know, No, by the lake,
by the lake, I feel like he did, but I do.
(17:29):
I will say, like for them to just write there
be like so and I was like, okay, give it
more than twenty minutes, like let like do you know
what I mean? Like I think I think that when
they were at the lake, he realized like what happened?
Did he want it to happen? Yeah? I mean like
yeah he did. Did he want it to happen that way?
(17:52):
Probably not?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah. I think he did feel bad that she was
so upset.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well because he did it publicly, Yeah, like in front
of the whole well half the town's sleeping. But you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, but that's true, and you know, people, even the
people that weren't there because people talk, you know, it's
going to be all over town.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Miss Patty was right there front.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, And speaking of everybody being there, Luke and Lorelai
were sitting on the bleachers like they would have heard that.
You know, it's I just didn't buy that. Lorelai was
completely clueless about where's Rory.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
The timing of this episode. See, I like this episode
so much. I just ignored all inconsistency. I know, I
know I should have to no, but it's a good point.
It's a good point because it's like, but I wonder
if it's there's you know, as someone who's watching this,
like probably you know, the average maybe one to two times. Yeah,
(18:53):
there's so much happening that you're not sitting And by
the way, like we have said many times in two
thousand and two, you couldn't rewind this, so no one
was sitting there realizing that, oh they it was five,
ten and then five you know what I mean, Like
maybe they did, I don't know, but yeah, you were
just enjoying it. Yeah. By the way, I the one
part that I died laughing because it was so funny
(19:16):
was the run around. Yes, because I was like imagine
all of that and then you have to run and
then Suki is like Asuki and Jackson are behind you,
just like stir in the pot for no reason at
like probably two am. And then when it was done,
everyone just dropped to the floor. Yes, it was so
(19:37):
I thought that was really funny. And also the fact that,
like Lourla I told Rory that she like usually blacks
that part out every year. I'm like, yeah, I would to.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
The whole We didn't even talk about the whole Jackson
and Suki story.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I mean, to be honest, like it was just that part.
I could have done without that storyline. I mean it was.
Is it a little funny, Yeah, But I think it
went on a little too long.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I don't think I needed three scenes about it. One
to two would have been fine.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And Suki just kept saying the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And then she comes back and asks for more advice.
At the end, I was like, okay, this there was
too much on this topic. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, but
I don't have anything else. And then I liked this episode.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah I don't. I don't have anything else. You know,
time works in mysterious ways.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It starts and I just it's the magic of stars.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Hallow, it's the magic of stars. I'm just gonna be
good with that.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
All right. Well, the next episode we're gonna be watching
is season three, episode eight, Let the Games Begin. We'll
see you next week.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Meeting adjourned
Speaker 1 (21:13):
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I Am all in again. Oh that's just you. I
Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and Tara
(00:21):
suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to another
episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with Myself, Torrence, Suzanne, Hello, Hello.
Today we're talking about season three, episode seven, They Shoot
Gilmore's Don't They, which aired on November twelfth, two thousand
and two. And this is, I think, officially after watching it,
(00:41):
like the twentieth time, my favorite episode of Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, this episode is a classic. I just I love
the clothes, I love the town feeling, the drama. I mean,
I'm an even jazz fan, but I just I don't know,
it's just a great episode.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
What made me realize, like it was the one moment
of this episode where I was like, oh, this is
so symbolic to like what describes Stars Hollow is the
very very final scene when Rory and Loralai are hugging
on the on the dance floor and Kirk is running
around with his trophy and it's playing the rocky song.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I was like, that describes this entire town to a t.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, the absurdity of it. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I yeah, but yeah, it was such a good you know,
I will say just to jump right in it. The
speaking of Kirk. Did you notice that in this episode,
Like when Rory is telling Laura, I like, oh, like,
Kirk has nothing. He doesn't have a career. I'm like,
are we going to ignore the seventy five careers that
Kirk has had? That's true, but I guess he doesn't
(01:50):
have a stable career. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
He doesn't really seem to have a focus.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, he just bops around. Someone hires him for the day. Yeah,
but that bar threw me off. I was like, he
kind of does it just depends on the day or
the week.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah. Yeah, his focus is to not be focused.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, exactly. Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
In the in the opening scene, there's a woman in
the background with red hair, and if you watch her,
she just sits there stirring her food. It's like oatmeal
or something, or maybe it was just cereal, I don't know.
You see her just stirring, stirring, stirring, stirring, story. She
never takes a bite, she never pretends to eat it,
(02:30):
she never like lifts the spoon out of the bowl.
At first, I thought she was stirring her coffee. But
then when they were showing from a different angle, you
could see it's her bowl oatmeal.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
In her defense, I have to be in the mood
for oatmeal, and if I had to take like seventy
takes of eating oatmeal, I'd probably be over it.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, she's not even pretending though, She's just straight up
like it would lift an empty spoon and people wouldn't
be able to you know, a lot of focus and
you know people wouldn't know, but she's just during story.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Did you notice the clown pillow in this episode?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, it was like kind of in between, like when
Lane moved a certain way, you could get a little.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Not gonna lie. I kind of blacked out that scene
because I was so focused on making sure I see
the clown pillow, because I saw red that I had
to rewatch the scene because I just wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, that was that was good. And let's see, Oh,
you know, right before the scene before that, this was
like such a minor storyline, but I want to just
touch on it. This was the first time so talking
about Jamie coming back and with Paris Son not like
a major.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I forgot about it. You're right, I got buried in
this episode.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It did, and you know, this was the first time
I actually realized. So we're in November now, and their
date was in the summer. It was when they went
to that summer program in Washington, d C. And so
they went on the one date in the summer, and
then he completely ghosted.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Her for like three months, for like.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Three months, and then he shows back up like aren't
you want to see me? And she's like she's falling
all over him. I'm like, that's like he just expected
her to be flattered that he's doing the favor of coming.
I don't know, it just really I was like, yeah, crappy.
I never thought about that before.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I never thought of the timeline because I just don't
pay attention to like Paris's timeline as much as we
pay attention to other ones. Yeah, but this sounds terrible.
Don't take this the wrong way the audience or Suzanne.
But Paris is a little desperate when it comes to boys.
So like I kind of wasn't surprised, Like this sounds
(04:40):
so mean, but like she's not getting any other dates
right now, so you might as well take the opportunity,
you know, what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's true. I mean I understand for Paris why she
would have been like, oh my gosh, and you know,
gone back out with him. But I just I never really,
it never really occurred to me how much time had
passed since that one date in Washington, d C. And
now and then he like didn't even call her out,
Like that's really crappy. And yeah it was because we
(05:08):
see more of Jamie, you know, in future episodes. And
I always kind of liked him. I thought he was
a good enough guy, and I didn't like the way that,
you know, Paris gets rid of him. But now I'm
thinking he's kind of a jerk. So yeah, he deserved
what he got.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And also just this episode was so big when it
came to like the dance marathon, the Jess and Dean
of it all that I was just kind of like,
I wish they plucked this storyline. Yeah, it's kind of
like a C storyline in a sense, like a like
in ABC. But yeah, I mean it wasn't. I mean,
I get why they put it here because there's just
so much happening from now until basically the next four
(05:43):
or five episodes of this series the season. Yeah, but yeah,
I kind of just completely forgot that was in this episode.
I was like, what this episode before?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, and then I did kind of stretching that out
a little bit. I loved the scene in the chiltn
Bio Lab when Paris agrees to postpone.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Working on specials are just begging.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Met Louise, are immediately trying to find dates.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
In all honesty, like not anymore. Listen, if someone cancels
on me. Now that I'm in my thirties, I will
happily sit in my room to watch TV in bed
and do nothing. But when I feel like in high
school and in my twenties, like in college, if someone
canceled on me and I had the mind instead of
going out I needed or like something happened where I
(06:29):
was free, I would jump on the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So I was just like, oh man, that felt familiar,
like you're out of a school project. Tell y'all, maybe
not like on a date, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
By the way, I don't have any call outs for
this episode, because in my head this episode was perfect,
but I know you probably have some. I have a couple, Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But first of all, I have to say I can't
I may have mentioned this in the last episode, and
I can't remember if it was on the air, if
it was when we were just a conversation, but lorelized
dress in this episode is my favorite outfit in the
entire series. I love that the blulue dress.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And it's I'm not your hair with it body, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
The forties kind of hair. I don't. It's just my
favorite outfit. It's just such a pretty dress, and then
like the sweetheart neckline with the halter top. It just
is so flattering.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Have you ever a little off topic? But I recently
just went to Disneyland and I had no idea, but
it was Dapper Day when I went. Have you ever
seen like dapper Day at Disneyland?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, So, like I just had gone and then just
watched this episode and I was like, oh my god,
I just saw all these like kind of like the
hairstyles and the outfit, so it kind of I was like, Oh,
it's so like very dapper of them.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah. Was it crowded. It's always crowded on that day.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, it was. Well, it's funny because it was raining
in La So I feel like people a lot of
people just didn't go. But my mom and I were
like fully prepared with umbrellas and like raincoats, and it
shockingly didn't rain. There was like a drop of a drizzle,
which nothing, but it was like the only like Sunday
we could have gone. Yeah, and in the rain is fun.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We just love that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Okay, it's fun when it's raining decently. When it's like flooding,
it is not fun. I have done it both ways,
and not on purpose. The one time I went to
Disney and it was like supposed to be a drizzle
soose years ago, and it started like downpouring and half
the rides that are like all the outdoor rides close,
so then you're stuck with the indoor rides. But then
(08:28):
so is everyone else, so then everyone's in life. It's
just the whole thing. But but Disney and Florida when
it's raining because they are so prepared is also pretty
brutal because now it's just hot and sticky.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Right, Okay, we we totally got off topic there.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Sorry, I just I had just seen when I was watching.
I was like, oh my god, I just saw these
dapper outfits in the hair, That's what I reminded me.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, the clothes, the clothes were great, but Larelized dress specifically,
in my mind, just is a standout for the series.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But she should have worn better shoes.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
She could have worn shoes that were made a few
decades later.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but they were silver.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I don't know. I thought it was they were kind
of pretty. But I thought Rory's dress was okay. But
it's a little plane, I thought.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, I mean it was fine, It just wasn't I mean,
it wasn't. Listen, this was like Laurelized Super Bowl. So yeah,
she was dressing to impress.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's true. So one thing I kept noticing because they
make a point throughout the episode of showing you the
clock and how many couples are left and how much
time has passed. So I actually was paying attention to
it this time and like what events were happening at
what time of day because we saw a sign in
(09:54):
the beginning that the dance mayor then started at six
am on Saturday morning and it was going to go
to six am on Sunday morning. So everything was fine
in the beginning, like the times were okay, and then
as it's as it got later, so they showed the clock.
Let me see at so there were six couples left
(10:18):
at five am, so twenty three hours had elapsed. YEA,
during the final hour, it's five am, there's six couples left,
and then at six ten they showed the clock so
we know exactly what it was. That's when Rory started
complaining about Jess looking at her and why does he
(10:41):
keep staring at me? And she's dancing with Dean at
this point because getting her shoe fixed, so she's dancing
with Dean and she's going on and on and on
about Jess and then that's like that's when they start
that confrontation where Jess comes up. He's like, you're talking
about Shane and she concerns me of all that, and
then Dean breaks up with her. That whole confrontation happens.
(11:02):
Then we see Rory sitting by the lake. Yeah, Jess
talks to her, and then it goes back in the.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Gym and Lourai comes back and it's.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Only five thirteen am.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So it's only been three minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So it's only been three minutes. They had the whole confrontation.
Laurie Laurie, Rory and Jess wind up at the lake.
Then they or Rory comes back in the gym and
it's only five thirteen, and that's when and at now
three minutes later, now there's only two couples left, and
then that's when the other couple passes out, and Kirk's like,
(11:38):
I won, I won.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was it was five It realistically could have like
I would have believed fifteen minutes. But also when the
one thing I noticed about timing of this episode was
Luke had glue at the diner and he went to
go get in and come back, and it was like
possibly ten seconds later. Yeah, so that's another role. I'm like,
I know the diner's closed, but ten seconds close?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah. And it was funny because if they hadn't shown
the clock, I wouldn't have even noticed it, but they
made a point to show the clock saying five to
thirteen am, Like didn't they think, didn't they realize that
only three minutes had passed since the last time.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
They You know, it's so funny that because I didn't
pay attention to the clock, but I was paying attention
to the number on their backs were sixty seven, and
I was trying to figure out if that's a significant number,
and I did I forgot to look it up. But
is that the sixty seventh episode of the series, do
we know? Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
No, I don't think so, because it should only be
like forty eight forty nine. Maybe because there's twenty two.
If you says twenty two episodes a season, then seasons
one and two would have been about forty four episodes,
and now we're on season or episode seven, so that
would be about fifty or fifty one.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Episode sixty seven of the series is season four, episode two,
the lorealized first day at Yale. So no, but I
was wondering if there was a significance, because I feel
like there's always some one maybe not or maybe they's
just someone's favorite number and they decided to throw it
on there, but something for some reason.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I was like, it probably meant something to someone.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, and if someone one of our listeners know, just
like put in the comments so we could read it
back next time. But yeah, I was just wondering. I'm like,
what was was there significance? But clearly not if we're
doing the numbers wrong on the clock over here. Yeah,
I did notice twenty three hours, but I didn't pay
attention to the clock.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, I never had before this, and then I
started watching it really closely.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
The other thing too that made me laugh is and
I know maybe the viewers were meant to notice this,
but when Dave shows it up and he's talking to
Lane and he's saying his parents are at a private
Bible study, you know, because he knows that yes, yes,
it's five o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Wait. But also my thing that well, there's that. But
also my thing was like they made a stack of
sandwiches and missus Kim said this, the bread is only
gonna last twenty more minutes, so you just wasted all
that bread.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Right, Well, you know, eggless egg salad probably is not
real popular.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
By the way, is there in one of these recipe
books that like the Gilmour recipe books? Is there a
recipe for eggless egg salad?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I don't know, because I was truly wondering.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It seems like it would be a perfect candidate from
a book like that. There probably is, because I.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Was like eggless egg, like, like what is what what
is the alternative to egg? Because like I understand, like
you can do like a like a like a like
a burger. You can do like a like a different
kind of patty, you know what I mean, like a
vestable patty.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I don't know what they use. I mean it seems like,
I don't know, maybe potato, like a b baked potato.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I guess you could do potato. But then that's just
potato salad. Oh, mashed tofu? Do we know if it's mashed?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Im googling and there's like several websites that say, like
eggless salad, and the whole Google page is just a
lot of it is mashed tofu.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So Reddit has eggless egg salad. Yeah, I guess the
consistency of tofu could be close to like yeah, like
like an egg white.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
We we have the cookbook authors at our podcast event.
We should I have the book downstairs.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I should go look it up, look it up later
and then we'll bring it back around. Yeah. Same, we're on.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, all of them kind of just say mash tofu.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I guess mash tofu makes sense. But yeah, it was
like the whole time, I'm like one of two things, one,
how is this bread in the last twenty more minutes
to what the heck is eggless egg salad? Yeah, And
then it made me want an egg salad sandwich.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Right, I know, I know, I love egg salad.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And then the other classic line for me was when
missus Kim asks Jess who he is? Oh, yeah, and
he says Jess and then there's a pause and he goes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I love that part. I do have to say, listen,
I understand what Jess was trying to do here with
like messing with Rory, but what did he think was
the outcome?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And then he felt bad when they broke up, So
it's like, well, you were you had no business as
much of as much as I like Jess, you really
had no business being there. And then you're sitting and
watching and then at one point Shane wanted to leave
and he made them like what did you think was
going to happen?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right? Well, And that's the other thing I noticed too,
because I was watching the clock. Both Jess, Jess, and
so Dean came in first and then Jess and Shane
were not that far behind him. That was at like noon,
so they sat there for like seventeen hours or yeah,
So that's crazy, Like who would sit there all night
(17:01):
staring at Rory?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Listen if you're trying to win someone over.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
But that's what I'm saying, especially Shane, Like I don't
see her putting up with that for so long.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
But also that's my point. You're sitting there for seventeen hours.
What was the angle to get the girl? You got
the girl, but you acted so like, oh shoot, you
know when it all happened, like anyway, I just thought
it was And then he did feel really bad, as
he should know. I don't know, No, by the lake,
by the lake, I feel like he did, but I do.
(17:29):
I will say, like for them to just write there
be like so and I was like, okay, give it
more than twenty minutes, like let like do you know
what I mean? Like I think I think that when
they were at the lake, he realized like what happened?
Did he want it to happen? Yeah? I mean like
yeah he did. Did he want it to happen that way?
(17:52):
Probably not?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah. I think he did feel bad that she was
so upset.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well because he did it publicly, Yeah, like in front
of the whole well half the town's sleeping. But you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, but that's true, and you know, people, even the
people that weren't there because people talk, you know, it's
going to be all over town.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Miss Patty was right there front.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, And speaking of everybody being there, Luke and Lorelai
were sitting on the bleachers like they would have heard that.
You know, it's I just didn't buy that. Lorelai was
completely clueless about where's Rory.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
The timing of this episode. See, I like this episode
so much. I just ignored all inconsistency. I know, I
know I should have to no, but it's a good point.
It's a good point because it's like, but I wonder
if it's there's you know, as someone who's watching this,
like probably you know, the average maybe one to two times. Yeah,
(18:53):
there's so much happening that you're not sitting And by
the way, like we have said many times in two
thousand and two, you couldn't rewind this, so no one
was sitting there realizing that, oh they it was five,
ten and then five you know what I mean, Like
maybe they did, I don't know, but yeah, you were
just enjoying it. Yeah. By the way, I the one
part that I died laughing because it was so funny
(19:16):
was the run around. Yes, because I was like imagine
all of that and then you have to run and
then Suki is like Asuki and Jackson are behind you,
just like stir in the pot for no reason at
like probably two am. And then when it was done,
everyone just dropped to the floor. Yes, it was so
(19:37):
I thought that was really funny. And also the fact that,
like Lourla I told Rory that she like usually blacks
that part out every year. I'm like, yeah, I would to.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
The whole We didn't even talk about the whole Jackson
and Suki story.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I mean, to be honest, like it was just that part.
I could have done without that storyline. I mean it was.
Is it a little funny, Yeah, But I think it
went on a little too long.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I don't think I needed three scenes about it. One
to two would have been fine.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And Suki just kept saying the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And then she comes back and asks for more advice.
At the end, I was like, okay, this there was
too much on this topic. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, but
I don't have anything else. And then I liked this episode.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah I don't. I don't have anything else. You know,
time works in mysterious ways.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It starts and I just it's the magic of stars.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Hallow, it's the magic of stars. I'm just gonna be
good with that.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
All right. Well, the next episode we're gonna be watching
is season three, episode eight, Let the Games Begin. We'll
see you next week.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Meeting adjourned
Speaker 1 (21:13):
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