February 15, 2024 • 27 mins
What's the Life and Death Brigade really like??? Rosemary knows.
Rosemary refused to date Finn but she's definitely tight with the crew.
Elisabeth Abott shares set memories and why night shoots were party time.
She's a therapist now and provides us with much needed expertise on all things Gilmore Girls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all In.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in podcast, one on
one Interview, one eleven productions. iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts.
I'm joined by Susanne French. Hello Suzanne, and we are
gonna talk to Elizabeth Abbott. Elizabeth, thank you so much
for joining us. Let me get into a little bit
(00:41):
of who you are and what you're about. You portrayed
Rosemary four episodes and Rosemary is one of the ladies
who hangs out with Finn Life of Death Brigade. You
were an actress for best known for this role and
also for making a few TV appearances Young and Restless
and I Carly no longer acting. But you're a licensed
(01:02):
marriage and Family therapist, a master level psychotherapist who work
with adults and teens who are dealing with mental health issues, relationships,
or life transitions. How fascinating. Welcome to the podcast. So
great to have you, Elizabeth. First off, tell us how
you first got the role on Gilmore.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, first of all, thank you for having me. This
is really fun. So I had been in LA for
just a couple of years, and had done a bunch
of commercials and had an agent and a manager, and
we were just, you know, grinding all the auditions as
(01:43):
one does. And when the audition for Gilmore Girls just
came up, and I wanted it so badly, and I
had to act so cool, like I didn't want it
that badly, but I really wanted it. Was it ended
up being my first TV job.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You were smart. You were smart, Sorry, but you were
smart to act that like you didn't want it. Yeah,
because that shows that you understand the psychology in that
that works against you if you want it too badly.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Exactly. I played it. I played it so cool.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
So you were already familiar with the show when you auditioned.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I was. I was a fan of the show. It
had debuted when I was in college, and my my
mom is a single mom, divorced mom. I'm an only daughter,
and so it's sort of it was sort of our show.
She would this like dates me, but she would tape
(02:45):
the episodes on VHS tapes and either mail them to
me at college or or she just saved them up
for when we had watched together when I would be
at home.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. Did you know that it
would be a recurring role when you when you booked
that first one.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Nope, Uh, it was supposed to be just a co star,
and then they just the next one was a guest star,
and they just kept bringing us back. And I felt like,
you know, I won the latto every time because it
was unexpected.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But yeah, so what was it like working with Alexis Bdell?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Alexis was lovely. I was so nervous that the first uh,
I mean the first scene that we filmed was in
the Chinese restaurant. I don't know if you remember, but uh,
and it was Alexis and Matt Zukri and Alan and
(03:48):
Tank and his name was Wayne I think, who played Marty,
and of course Ricky Lyndholm. Ricky and I were always together,
and uh, they had all filmed, I mean so much together,
and I was, you know, I was really nervous that
we wouldn't get in and click right away. But Alexis
(04:10):
and Matt and all the guys were so welcoming right
off the bat and made us feel right at home,
and you know, it started clicking.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes, Finn was always trying to get with your character
wasn't he he was.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
There was a there was a point where I think
I was like, not that too, not too opposed to
it as well.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So when was the last time you watched an actual episode?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, I revisited an episode last night in preparation for
this because I hadn't I hadn't seen it in quite
a while, and I was like, what what was that?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Like?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's really fun, it's really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And remember, do you get recognized for role?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I don't get recognized, you know, randomly on the street,
but in the work that I do now as a therapist.
So many people have this show as their comfort show
that they watch over and over again. And a lot
of what we do is we talk about resources, you know,
the things in your life that make you feel a
little bit safer, a little bit calmer. And so people
(05:25):
are always coming. So I was rewatching Gilmore Girls, and
is there something you want to tell me?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right right, right right?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
You know, I had one client several years ago who
was mad that they hadn't known beforehand. So now if
I have a new client who mentions that they like
the show, I say, okay, don't be weirded out. But
you know, season's five and six are going to see
me pomp up. We can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Or not whatever, but yeah, that's fascinating. We're going to
talk a little bit more about what you do now
a little bit later on the interview. But that's that's
I have a lot of stories about that as well. Yeah,
when I meet people. Yeah, so did you lie? Did
you see the episodes in Netflix? The episodes? Do you
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like how they brought the Life and Death Brigade back?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The new ones? I have to admit I didn't watch them.
I haven't watched them yet because I don't know if
I loved my experience in seasons five and six so
much that I just kind of I kind of wanted
to let it be what it was. Sure, maybe I'll
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go back now.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And you did a few more TV gigs with Young
and the rest as I Carly, When did you decide
to leave acting?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I had, you know, as an actor, there's a lot
of downtime. It's incredible when you're working or when you're auditioning.
But I had a lot of time where I needed
I felt like I needed something a little bit more. So.
I had gone back to grad school, was doing that
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on nights and weekends just for the sort of education
of it. And I had also had a lot of therapy.
You need a lot of therapy when you're an actress
in your twenties in Los Angeles. And I just loved
going to her office every week so much that I
was like, I maybe I can do this. So I
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tried to stuggle both for a while. I was doing
both for a while, and then there came a point
where I just had to, you know, fully commit to
building a private practice, and you know, I found it
really really fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Was there was there a moment for you that you
recall that were you made that decision to leave acting.
Was it a specific incident, was it just a moment
that you remember.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't know if I ever made the decision to
leave acting, Like, honestly, if something came along now, I
would love to to, you know, I'd love to act again.
So I feel like it was less leaving acting and
more finding psychotherapy, finding this other passion right and.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And and why you say you were in therapy. You
sought out therapy in your twenties being an actress in
LA Why did you seek therapy If I'm not getting
too personal if you want to talk about it, know that.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I mean I'm biased. I think that everyone should have
stuff to work out in therapy.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Actually I actually feel the same way. I think everybody
can benefit from therapy absolutely.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know, it was it was a time of a
lot of changes, a lot of transitions, also coping with
all the stuff that you know, actors and artists go through,
you know, the rejection and the procrastination, and the sort
of financial ups and downs and the effect on your
relationships and all those things. And it was so.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I just it felt so well. And you know,
there's always like family of origin stuff as well. You know,
we've all got our stuff. So it was just such
an enormously healing and supportive space for me. For several
(09:41):
years there, I kind of wanted to kind of wanted
to create my own space to be able to do
that for other people.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
All Right, So you get your bachelor's in science and
your master's in psychology. When did your interest in mental
health begin? Was it when you were getting into therapy?
Before that?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I think, well, I had always been a theater kid,
and you know, you know, I was a journalism major
in college, but I was also in this three year
acting class and did theater in college and things like that,
and acting and psychology are not at all, not at
(10:30):
all different. I mean, the way that you know I
was taught and I learned to approach a character as
an actor is very much what we do. You know,
you're you're thinking about why this character is the way
that they are, What has happened in their life that
makes them the way that they are, and that way
(10:52):
of thinking. Also just the listening and being with someone
and connecting and all of those things. It was such
a natural, kind of organic transition that I found myself always,
you know, already thinking that way through the acting training.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, in the training that you draw up a psychological
probi file for your character. You fill it out in
detail if you can. Here's a question for you, and
it's a personal question because I've experienced this. I'm sure
you've experienced every actor experiences this. How do you take
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on the persona or the psychology of another character the
day ends, you go home? What do you do to
flush your brain out and to flush your soul? What
is what are the best techniques that you have found
to help people do that? Is it meditation, Is it
(11:54):
taking a hot bath? What is it?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
For me? It was always had to get back into
my body, into my physicality, and you know the hot shower,
sure movement of some kind. And then also you know,
connecting with the people who I love in my life,
(12:19):
you know, having a partner or a friend to come
home to and debrief at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So what happens to the actor that is isolated away
from their family, playing a hugely demanding role emotionally speaking,
and then comes home to an empty condo?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I mean, that's what what what weren't.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
What kind of uh, what kind of issues would that
actor or actress be dealing with if they were doing
that over the film home?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Shoot?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Oh god, what would they be facing? What dangers could
they be facing? I mean, can it get dangerous? Can
it get you know, really impairing.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I'm sure it could get really dangerous. Loneliness is I
feel like the artist is lonely. A lot of the time,
it seemed. Loneliness seems to be whether it's somebody who's
out of town working on something, or even you know,
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in a cast of other people. That's one of the
things that keeps coming up over and over again when
I'm working with actors and artists. So for me, it's
about building a community of supportive, present individuals, whether that's
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through face time, calls back home, or whether that's debriefing
with your you know, with your cast made, with your
scene partner, taking the time to I mean it's if
you're working on something out of town, it's an exhausting,
you know, twelve sixteen hour day, maybe it's been a
night shoot. You're exhausted. But taking the time to, you know,
(14:15):
debrief with someone, with the people you've been working with
over dinner or breakfast or whatever it is afterwards, that
connection and support I think can be really essential, right.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is So what's your perspective on the psychological aspects of
the the laurel I and Rory relationship?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Oh, let's un back it. Yeah, mother daughter relationships are complex,
I think, kind of almost universally complex. There can be
the most love and support and understanding, and also mothers
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and daughter push each other's buttons like nobody else.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Would you think that Lorelei and Rory could have benefited
from some therapy individual or group therapy together? And if so,
what do you think their issues are?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think Lorelei and Rory would have loved therapy, you
know they they would with all the fast talking, they
would make that fifty minutes last. They really would get
a lot.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
There's the spinoff right there. Lorelei and Rory go to therapy.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh my gosh, Amy call me. Yeah, No, I mean
we're talking intergenerational trauma when we bring Emily into it,
all of these expectations and bucking the expectation, and each
generation wanting to be their own person, but also really
(16:02):
wanting and needing the approval of their mother. Again, all
the generations.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, do you think do you think laurel I smothered Rory?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Do I think she? I don't think she smothered Rory.
It seemed to be a pretty mutual relationship for most
of it. They really went through it when you know,
Rory was going through it on her own during the
(16:33):
during the Yale seasons. But they were able always to repair.
And again that's the most important part, right. It's not
about whether we're talking about a mother daughter relationship or
we're talking about, you know, a romantic partnership. It's not
about do you have conflict do you fight? Right, It's
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about how do you repair Do you turn away from
each other or do you turn toward each other?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right? Right, right? Right? What do you think about the
Rory Logan relationship and Rory losing somewhat of her personality
within that relationship and being in you know, very murky
deep waters with that relationship. To talk about that a
little bit, Why is she in that relationship?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Why is she in that relationship? I mean, look, as
a fan, I was always team Jess. I'm going to
be honest, but Matzi Freeze so lovely. I can absolutely
see how everyone has fallen for a Logan, including Rory.
But I I kind of think that if whether or
(17:48):
not there was a Logan, I think Rory was kind
of destined to lose her you know what, during college anyway.
It was such a massive change for her, being in
an environment with with a lot of folks, a very
(18:10):
different background, being away from her mother, and this you know,
sort of magical talent that she had had grown up
in trying to find her place there no longer being
the best at everything. Boy, that's a really really common thing, right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
For the right everybody's gifted here.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think, yeah, I think I think she was gonna
need to act out a little bit in order to
find who the heck she was.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Going back to your own experience, do you have any
like good stories or your favorite memories from being on set,
Like any moments that really stood out to you from
the episodes that you were in.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I mean, every time hanging out with the guys, the
Life and Death Brigade guys, and Ricky of course, who
played Juliette. We just had so much fun. It was
I mean, of course it was my first TV job.
Prussia was on You've got to talk very fast, it
had to be dead letter perfect, all of those things.
(19:21):
But hanging out with that crew, it was a party.
It was a party every time. And at least two
of the episodes they were night shoots, and I remember
during one of them, somebody had set up a karaoke
machine off the set, and so people were just getting
(19:43):
silly and in the middle of the night, and it
was just a really, really fun environment.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, that's great. Okay, back to the psychology. Do you
think that do you think Emily damaged?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Damage is a really loaded word. I think that she
had incredibly specific and high expectations and Laura I wanted
something different and neither one of them could meet in
(20:23):
the middle. Do I think there's trauma there between the
two of them, Absolutely, just like there is between Laura,
l I and Rory and Emily and Rory, and do
I think gets unsalvageable? Absolutely not. Man, if those two
would have just talked a little bit, you know again,
(20:49):
I'm just pushing therapy. It's such a pusher. But if
they had gotten into it, into an office where Emily
didn't hold the sort of ultimate status and they could
just talk with each other like humans, like mothers, I
don't know, things might have been different.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Where do you practice you practice in La or where
do you practice in La?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I see clients all across California, But I live in Burbank,
and before I went telehealth just a few months ago,
my office was on Riverside Drive, looking right over the
Warner Bros.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Lot.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Can't escape that lot.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
We're going to play a little game called rapid fire.
Doesn't mean you have to answer the questions quickly. Uh,
We'll just called it rapid fire. How do you like
your coffee, Elizabeth?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I like with oat milk and a lot of it,
really a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, are you what we already answered this one your team?
Just who is your favorite Gilmore girls couple? Luke and
Laurel I or Emily and Richard?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Oh gosh, so different? So different? Is it really insulting
if I? If I choose Emily and Richard, they're just
such a.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Delight personally insulting If it feels like you're attacking me,
I'm stunned. What about Luke and Laurel? I talk about
Luke and Laurel I a little bit?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Why?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Why? Go ahead? Sorry, go ahead?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Talk about a couple who needed to talk and to
improve their communications skill, such a such love and such support,
and every time it went wrong it was because of
something that could have been sorted out with just a
little bit of a little bit of communication.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, he wasn't famous for his communication skills, and nor
was she, but I think she was a little better
at it a little.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But also, you know, she had a lot of pride.
She was at Gilmour after all, a lot of pride.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Right, Okay, would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Well, they're both so efficient in their own ways. I
but I think Michelle and I would really would really
get along.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Really. Yeah, Well, why do you why Michelle.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
He makes me laugh every time he comes on screen,
so I imagine, but he would do the same in an
office environment.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What would you order at Luke Steiner?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Coffee of course, and more coffee.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Who would you rather hang out with? Paris or Lane?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I would probably want to go to the rock Show.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
With Lane, but didn't have Paris as a patient.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Paris would be a difficult patient because she would really
want to control the whole session. But here's the thing.
I got a little bit of Paris in me too,
so maybe we would be fast friends. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But what part of Paris do you have in you?
What part would that be?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean, I really like things the way that I
like things. I have learned to be so much more flexible. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Are you happier as a result of that?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah? Harvard or Yale or drop out and live in the.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Poolhouse Northwestern University?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
There you go? Is that where you went?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I went?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I would you rather attend a daar event with Emily
or a town meeting with Taylor?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Town meeting one?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You must like to sweat for fourteen solid hours and
winter clothes in summer.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Oh, you got to remember, I was always part of
the Yale crew. I never got to visit Stars Hollow
never so sad.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, Gilmore Girl's character you would want as a roommate.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Paris really very clean, yes really yeah, would keep things
very clean and orderly. And you know what she is
a ride or die. She will have your.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Back, huh something in your life. You are all in.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
On m.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
My family they're great. I really like them, and also
my private practice. I also really not in a weird way,
but I really love and respect and admire all of
my clients.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay, so how would prospective patients get in touch?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
They can get in touch through my website which is
fulfillinglifetherapy dot com and I'm on you know, Instagram and
TikTok talking about mental health a little bit, so they
can look me up on my on not too.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Excellent, Elizabeth. It has been an intense pleasure talking to you.
Good luck with your practice.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, maybe we'll see you back on the boards as
it were, inhabiting another role. But it was a pleasure
talk and you getting to tell you a little bit
and sharing your thoughts on your experiences on Gilmore Girls.
All you too, Thank.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
You, hey everybody, and to forget.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in podcast, one on
one Interview, one eleven productions. iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts.
I'm joined by Susanne French. Hello Suzanne, and we are
gonna talk to Elizabeth Abbott. Elizabeth, thank you so much
for joining us. Let me get into a little bit
(00:41):
of who you are and what you're about. You portrayed
Rosemary four episodes and Rosemary is one of the ladies
who hangs out with Finn Life of Death Brigade. You
were an actress for best known for this role and
also for making a few TV appearances Young and Restless
and I Carly no longer acting. But you're a licensed
(01:02):
marriage and Family therapist, a master level psychotherapist who work
with adults and teens who are dealing with mental health issues, relationships,
or life transitions. How fascinating. Welcome to the podcast. So
great to have you, Elizabeth. First off, tell us how
you first got the role on Gilmore.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, first of all, thank you for having me. This
is really fun. So I had been in LA for
just a couple of years, and had done a bunch
of commercials and had an agent and a manager, and
we were just, you know, grinding all the auditions as
(01:43):
one does. And when the audition for Gilmore Girls just
came up, and I wanted it so badly, and I
had to act so cool, like I didn't want it
that badly, but I really wanted it. Was it ended
up being my first TV job.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You were smart. You were smart, Sorry, but you were
smart to act that like you didn't want it. Yeah,
because that shows that you understand the psychology in that
that works against you if you want it too badly.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Exactly. I played it. I played it so cool.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
So you were already familiar with the show when you auditioned.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I was. I was a fan of the show. It
had debuted when I was in college, and my my
mom is a single mom, divorced mom. I'm an only daughter,
and so it's sort of it was sort of our show.
She would this like dates me, but she would tape
(02:45):
the episodes on VHS tapes and either mail them to
me at college or or she just saved them up
for when we had watched together when I would be
at home.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. Did you know that it
would be a recurring role when you when you booked
that first one.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Nope, Uh, it was supposed to be just a co star,
and then they just the next one was a guest star,
and they just kept bringing us back. And I felt like,
you know, I won the latto every time because it
was unexpected.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But yeah, so what was it like working with Alexis Bdell?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Alexis was lovely. I was so nervous that the first uh,
I mean the first scene that we filmed was in
the Chinese restaurant. I don't know if you remember, but uh,
and it was Alexis and Matt Zukri and Alan and
(03:48):
Tank and his name was Wayne I think, who played Marty,
and of course Ricky Lyndholm. Ricky and I were always together,
and uh, they had all filmed, I mean so much together,
and I was, you know, I was really nervous that
we wouldn't get in and click right away. But Alexis
(04:10):
and Matt and all the guys were so welcoming right
off the bat and made us feel right at home,
and you know, it started clicking.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes, Finn was always trying to get with your character
wasn't he he was.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
There was a there was a point where I think
I was like, not that too, not too opposed to
it as well.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So when was the last time you watched an actual episode?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, I revisited an episode last night in preparation for
this because I hadn't I hadn't seen it in quite
a while, and I was like, what what was that?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Like?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's really fun, it's really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And remember, do you get recognized for role?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I don't get recognized, you know, randomly on the street,
but in the work that I do now as a therapist.
So many people have this show as their comfort show
that they watch over and over again. And a lot
of what we do is we talk about resources, you know,
the things in your life that make you feel a
little bit safer, a little bit calmer. And so people
(05:25):
are always coming. So I was rewatching Gilmore Girls, and
is there something you want to tell me?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right right, right right?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
You know, I had one client several years ago who
was mad that they hadn't known beforehand. So now if
I have a new client who mentions that they like
the show, I say, okay, don't be weirded out. But
you know, season's five and six are going to see
me pomp up. We can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Or not whatever, but yeah, that's fascinating. We're going to
talk a little bit more about what you do now
a little bit later on the interview. But that's that's
I have a lot of stories about that as well. Yeah,
when I meet people. Yeah, so did you lie? Did
you see the episodes in Netflix? The episodes? Do you
(06:16):
like how they brought the Life and Death Brigade back?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The new ones? I have to admit I didn't watch them.
I haven't watched them yet because I don't know if
I loved my experience in seasons five and six so
much that I just kind of I kind of wanted
to let it be what it was. Sure, maybe I'll
(06:40):
go back now.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And you did a few more TV gigs with Young
and the rest as I Carly, When did you decide
to leave acting?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I had, you know, as an actor, there's a lot
of downtime. It's incredible when you're working or when you're auditioning.
But I had a lot of time where I needed
I felt like I needed something a little bit more. So.
I had gone back to grad school, was doing that
(07:11):
on nights and weekends just for the sort of education
of it. And I had also had a lot of therapy.
You need a lot of therapy when you're an actress
in your twenties in Los Angeles. And I just loved
going to her office every week so much that I
was like, I maybe I can do this. So I
(07:33):
tried to stuggle both for a while. I was doing
both for a while, and then there came a point
where I just had to, you know, fully commit to
building a private practice, and you know, I found it
really really fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Was there was there a moment for you that you
recall that were you made that decision to leave acting.
Was it a specific incident, was it just a moment
that you remember.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't know if I ever made the decision to
leave acting, Like, honestly, if something came along now, I
would love to to, you know, I'd love to act again.
So I feel like it was less leaving acting and
more finding psychotherapy, finding this other passion right and.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And and why you say you were in therapy. You
sought out therapy in your twenties being an actress in
LA Why did you seek therapy If I'm not getting
too personal if you want to talk about it, know that.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I mean I'm biased. I think that everyone should have
stuff to work out in therapy.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Actually I actually feel the same way. I think everybody
can benefit from therapy absolutely.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know, it was it was a time of a
lot of changes, a lot of transitions, also coping with
all the stuff that you know, actors and artists go through,
you know, the rejection and the procrastination, and the sort
of financial ups and downs and the effect on your
relationships and all those things. And it was so.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I just it felt so well. And you know,
there's always like family of origin stuff as well. You know,
we've all got our stuff. So it was just such
an enormously healing and supportive space for me. For several
(09:41):
years there, I kind of wanted to kind of wanted
to create my own space to be able to do
that for other people.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
All Right, So you get your bachelor's in science and
your master's in psychology. When did your interest in mental
health begin? Was it when you were getting into therapy?
Before that?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I think, well, I had always been a theater kid,
and you know, you know, I was a journalism major
in college, but I was also in this three year
acting class and did theater in college and things like that,
and acting and psychology are not at all, not at
(10:30):
all different. I mean, the way that you know I
was taught and I learned to approach a character as
an actor is very much what we do. You know,
you're you're thinking about why this character is the way
that they are, What has happened in their life that
makes them the way that they are, and that way
(10:52):
of thinking. Also just the listening and being with someone
and connecting and all of those things. It was such
a natural, kind of organic transition that I found myself always,
you know, already thinking that way through the acting training.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, in the training that you draw up a psychological
probi file for your character. You fill it out in
detail if you can. Here's a question for you, and
it's a personal question because I've experienced this. I'm sure
you've experienced every actor experiences this. How do you take
(11:33):
on the persona or the psychology of another character the
day ends, you go home? What do you do to
flush your brain out and to flush your soul? What
is what are the best techniques that you have found
to help people do that? Is it meditation, Is it
(11:54):
taking a hot bath? What is it?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
For me? It was always had to get back into
my body, into my physicality, and you know the hot shower,
sure movement of some kind. And then also you know,
connecting with the people who I love in my life,
(12:19):
you know, having a partner or a friend to come
home to and debrief at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So what happens to the actor that is isolated away
from their family, playing a hugely demanding role emotionally speaking,
and then comes home to an empty condo?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I mean, that's what what what weren't.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
What kind of uh, what kind of issues would that
actor or actress be dealing with if they were doing
that over the film home?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Shoot?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Oh god, what would they be facing? What dangers could
they be facing? I mean, can it get dangerous? Can
it get you know, really impairing.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I'm sure it could get really dangerous. Loneliness is I
feel like the artist is lonely. A lot of the time,
it seemed. Loneliness seems to be whether it's somebody who's
out of town working on something, or even you know,
(13:31):
in a cast of other people. That's one of the
things that keeps coming up over and over again when
I'm working with actors and artists. So for me, it's
about building a community of supportive, present individuals, whether that's
(13:52):
through face time, calls back home, or whether that's debriefing
with your you know, with your cast made, with your
scene partner, taking the time to I mean it's if
you're working on something out of town, it's an exhausting,
you know, twelve sixteen hour day, maybe it's been a
night shoot. You're exhausted. But taking the time to, you know,
(14:15):
debrief with someone, with the people you've been working with
over dinner or breakfast or whatever it is afterwards, that
connection and support I think can be really essential, right.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is So what's your perspective on the psychological aspects of
the the laurel I and Rory relationship?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Oh, let's un back it. Yeah, mother daughter relationships are complex,
I think, kind of almost universally complex. There can be
the most love and support and understanding, and also mothers
(14:59):
and daughter push each other's buttons like nobody else.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Would you think that Lorelei and Rory could have benefited
from some therapy individual or group therapy together? And if so,
what do you think their issues are?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think Lorelei and Rory would have loved therapy, you
know they they would with all the fast talking, they
would make that fifty minutes last. They really would get
a lot.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
There's the spinoff right there. Lorelei and Rory go to therapy.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh my gosh, Amy call me. Yeah, No, I mean
we're talking intergenerational trauma when we bring Emily into it,
all of these expectations and bucking the expectation, and each
generation wanting to be their own person, but also really
(16:02):
wanting and needing the approval of their mother. Again, all
the generations.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, do you think do you think laurel I smothered Rory?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Do I think she? I don't think she smothered Rory.
It seemed to be a pretty mutual relationship for most
of it. They really went through it when you know,
Rory was going through it on her own during the
(16:33):
during the Yale seasons. But they were able always to repair.
And again that's the most important part, right. It's not
about whether we're talking about a mother daughter relationship or
we're talking about, you know, a romantic partnership. It's not
about do you have conflict do you fight? Right, It's
(16:56):
about how do you repair Do you turn away from
each other or do you turn toward each other?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right? Right, right? Right? What do you think about the
Rory Logan relationship and Rory losing somewhat of her personality
within that relationship and being in you know, very murky
deep waters with that relationship. To talk about that a
little bit, Why is she in that relationship?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Why is she in that relationship? I mean, look, as
a fan, I was always team Jess. I'm going to
be honest, but Matzi Freeze so lovely. I can absolutely
see how everyone has fallen for a Logan, including Rory.
But I I kind of think that if whether or
(17:48):
not there was a Logan, I think Rory was kind
of destined to lose her you know what, during college anyway.
It was such a massive change for her, being in
an environment with with a lot of folks, a very
(18:10):
different background, being away from her mother, and this you know,
sort of magical talent that she had had grown up
in trying to find her place there no longer being
the best at everything. Boy, that's a really really common thing, right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
For the right everybody's gifted here.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think, yeah, I think I think she was gonna
need to act out a little bit in order to
find who the heck she was.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Going back to your own experience, do you have any
like good stories or your favorite memories from being on set,
Like any moments that really stood out to you from
the episodes that you were in.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I mean, every time hanging out with the guys, the
Life and Death Brigade guys, and Ricky of course, who
played Juliette. We just had so much fun. It was
I mean, of course it was my first TV job.
Prussia was on You've got to talk very fast, it
had to be dead letter perfect, all of those things.
(19:21):
But hanging out with that crew, it was a party.
It was a party every time. And at least two
of the episodes they were night shoots, and I remember
during one of them, somebody had set up a karaoke
machine off the set, and so people were just getting
(19:43):
silly and in the middle of the night, and it
was just a really, really fun environment.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, that's great. Okay, back to the psychology. Do you
think that do you think Emily damaged?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Damage is a really loaded word. I think that she
had incredibly specific and high expectations and Laura I wanted
something different and neither one of them could meet in
(20:23):
the middle. Do I think there's trauma there between the
two of them, Absolutely, just like there is between Laura,
l I and Rory and Emily and Rory, and do
I think gets unsalvageable? Absolutely not. Man, if those two
would have just talked a little bit, you know again,
(20:49):
I'm just pushing therapy. It's such a pusher. But if
they had gotten into it, into an office where Emily
didn't hold the sort of ultimate status and they could
just talk with each other like humans, like mothers, I
don't know, things might have been different.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Where do you practice you practice in La or where
do you practice in La?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I see clients all across California, But I live in Burbank,
and before I went telehealth just a few months ago,
my office was on Riverside Drive, looking right over the
Warner Bros.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Lot.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Can't escape that lot.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
We're going to play a little game called rapid fire.
Doesn't mean you have to answer the questions quickly. Uh,
We'll just called it rapid fire. How do you like
your coffee, Elizabeth?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I like with oat milk and a lot of it,
really a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, are you what we already answered this one your team?
Just who is your favorite Gilmore girls couple? Luke and
Laurel I or Emily and Richard?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Oh gosh, so different? So different? Is it really insulting
if I? If I choose Emily and Richard, they're just
such a.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Delight personally insulting If it feels like you're attacking me,
I'm stunned. What about Luke and Laurel? I talk about
Luke and Laurel I a little bit?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Why?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Why? Go ahead? Sorry, go ahead?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Talk about a couple who needed to talk and to
improve their communications skill, such a such love and such support,
and every time it went wrong it was because of
something that could have been sorted out with just a
little bit of a little bit of communication.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, he wasn't famous for his communication skills, and nor
was she, but I think she was a little better
at it a little.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But also, you know, she had a lot of pride.
She was at Gilmour after all, a lot of pride.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Right, Okay, would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Well, they're both so efficient in their own ways. I
but I think Michelle and I would really would really
get along.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Really. Yeah, Well, why do you why Michelle.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
He makes me laugh every time he comes on screen,
so I imagine, but he would do the same in an
office environment.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What would you order at Luke Steiner?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Coffee of course, and more coffee.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Who would you rather hang out with? Paris or Lane?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I would probably want to go to the rock Show.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
With Lane, but didn't have Paris as a patient.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Paris would be a difficult patient because she would really
want to control the whole session. But here's the thing.
I got a little bit of Paris in me too,
so maybe we would be fast friends. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But what part of Paris do you have in you?
What part would that be?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean, I really like things the way that I
like things. I have learned to be so much more flexible. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Are you happier as a result of that?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah? Harvard or Yale or drop out and live in the.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Poolhouse Northwestern University?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
There you go? Is that where you went?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I went?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I would you rather attend a daar event with Emily
or a town meeting with Taylor?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Town meeting one?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You must like to sweat for fourteen solid hours and
winter clothes in summer.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Oh, you got to remember, I was always part of
the Yale crew. I never got to visit Stars Hollow
never so sad.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, Gilmore Girl's character you would want as a roommate.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Paris really very clean, yes really yeah, would keep things
very clean and orderly. And you know what she is
a ride or die. She will have your.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Back, huh something in your life. You are all in.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
On m.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
My family they're great. I really like them, and also
my private practice. I also really not in a weird way,
but I really love and respect and admire all of
my clients.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay, so how would prospective patients get in touch?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
They can get in touch through my website which is
fulfillinglifetherapy dot com and I'm on you know, Instagram and
TikTok talking about mental health a little bit, so they
can look me up on my on not too.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Excellent, Elizabeth. It has been an intense pleasure talking to you.
Good luck with your practice.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, maybe we'll see you back on the boards as
it were, inhabiting another role. But it was a pleasure
talk and you getting to tell you a little bit
and sharing your thoughts on your experiences on Gilmore Girls.
All you too, Thank.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
You, hey everybody, and to forget.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
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